The Bobby Bones Show - SUNDAY SAMPLER - The Nashville Podcast Network (1-26-25)

Episode Date: January 26, 2025

In this weekly series, we share highlight clips from the past week of some of the podcasts on The Nashville Podcast Network- In The Vet's Office with Dr. Josie (no episode this week), Take This Personally with Morgan Huelsman, The BobbyCast, 4 Things with Amy Brown, Sore Losers, Movie Mike's Movie Podcast and Get Real with Caroline Hobby.  You can listen to new episodes weekly wherever you get your podcasts.  You can find them on Instagram: -The BobbyCast- @BobbyCast -In The Vet's Office with Dr. Josie- @DrJosieVet -Take This Personally- @TakeThisPersonally -4 Things with Amy Brown- @RadioAmy -Sore Losers- @SoreLosersPodcast -Movie Mikes Movie Podcast- @MikeDeestro -Get Real: @GetRealCarolineHobbySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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because my dog ate a whole loaf of bread. And you can't have dogs eat loaves of bread because their stomach will explode, basically. I did not know this. So big shout out to Dr. Josie, because she saved my dog's life. I hope you check out her podcast. In this week's episode of In the Vets Office, Dr. Josie talked with glam guru, Taryn Feldman. She does hair and makeup for some of the biggest stars in Nashville. in Hollywood. Taryn has a 16-year-old dog. You're going to hear about that. And Dr. Josie and

Taryn talk about introducing an old dog to a new dog because that's what Taryn had to do. So, let's get started. By the way, we got some Bobbycast with Maggie Rose coming up. We got some four things with Amy Brown, sore losers, all that on the way. But now let's get started with the clip from In the Vets Office with Dr. Josie. You're listening to In the Vets Office with Dr. Josie Horchak. It's interesting. you say, like, I do think there's a huge portion to having to advocate for your own pet. And honestly, in human medicine, too, you have to advocate for yourself. Yeah.

And it's because it is, at the end of the day, like, you're working with these massive hospital systems and people that don't know your animals like you do. And so I think, I'm sorry, you had that experience, but I do understand, like, having to advocate for your own animals. And I hope that some of the time that you got with her and, like, doing that surgery, like, she would not have had those two months. once if you hadn't done it. No. No. I mean, you got more time. Either way, I got a little bit more time that I really didn't know.

I thought they were like, she'll probably last until December, which was around my birthday, which was my 40th birthday. So I was going to go to Bali. I was going to do all stuff. And I just put everything on hold, which is not a big deal. I could care less. But, and then I just lost her like so much sooner. I was like, oh, yeah.

You're like, damn. Yeah, I know. But you just don't know. And I would have done it the same way again. Yeah. And like the end of her life was like so peaceful. And so like what a great like you you only hope that you can like have your pet die in your arms. Or I do at least.

Yeah. Like I don't. Some people can't handle or they think they can't but they can. Yeah. But that's like my hope is that like all my dogs just die in my arm. Yeah. Absolutely. With the person they love the most.

Yeah. You're kind of ushering them out of this world. Yeah. Because ultimately they're the most comfortable in your arms. Right. So far I've had that's happened with Layla and Twyla. Yes. So I'm so grateful.

So Layla, gosh, we're going from one sad story to another. I know. So Twyla died September 24th and then Layla died September 30th. Really? I didn't know that. Yeah. One year. One year later.

Oh my gosh. I know. And then Lucy's probably, uh, quick dog hack. don't get multiple dogs the same age. Just don't do it. It's stagger. Why would you do that? Stagger the ages.

I did. That was so dumb. Yeah. Yeah, we're having a little bit of a domino effect right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Layla was another one where you called me and you're like, I think it might be time. Yeah.

And I really, this really resonated with me because we got on the phone. And again, I have two different kinds of owners that are like, I, maybe not even two different kinds. but I like what you said. You were just like, I need you to come look at this dog and be objective and tell me, is this the right decision or is it not the right decision? I think we as veterinarians kind of forget that. That is our job is to help guide you. And I don't want the owners to ever have to feel like they're the judge and jury with their dogs passing.

You know, like that's on me. Like I should help you make that decision. Right. And so I totally got that. And I hope that if there's any veterinarians listening out there. there like we remember that like we should be the ones throwing euthanasia on the table and saying like it's okay and like this is the right decision to be making for this pet yeah because it's really hard even myself as a vet when it's my own dog i had to have my husband be like it's time yeah you lose all

when it's your own pet you lose all objectiveness yeah and it's weird i mean i definitely think twila prepped me for leila but you don't you like you think you're like my life's going to be a over. When this dog dies, hell will freeze over. Like, I'll die. But there's something that kicks in, and I think it's just your love for them. Yes. That you just, you love them so much that you're just like, I'm not putting you through another ounce. You can't bear. Second to see them suffer. Of, like, pain. And I think that's like just ultimately what it was so like easy, even though it's not an easy, decision, but it made it easier just You just know.

She's in pain. Yeah. That's it. It's done. Yeah. And if you have an old dog, how wonderful is that? The luckiest. Laylo was 16.

Yeah. That's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Twylo was 11 or 12. I'll never know. But I think she was like 11 or 12. She may have been 13. And Lucy's 16 and a half.

half. Amazing. She's trucking. Yeah. And I feel like she's got like another six months left in her. I love that. Hopefully longer. It is funny at the end.

I feel like we cling on to like, oh, but I don't want to live without them. I can't bear this pain of losing them. But ultimately, like just like you said, like, but I love them more than I love myself. Yeah. So and I can't keep them alive just to make me less sad for a few more days. Well, and with Layla, Twyla didn't. She wasn't that old that her, she was still Twyla. Layla wasn't Layla anymore. And Layla hadn't been Layla in a really long time. When after she died, I was going through like old videos, old photos.

And I'm just like, oh, I didn't realize I've just gotten so used to taking care of these geriatric dogs that like, they're just not even themselves anymore. They're so different, you know, which just gave me a little bit more. piece of... Did you ever feel... There's something called caregiver like compassion overload. Did you ever feel that?

Where you're like, this is like tough on me? Or you're just like, no, I love them so much that I don't even think about it. No, the last like year and a half, two years have been really hard. I bet. I bet. It's extremely hard taking care of old dogs. And then having them die back to back. Yeah.

And just all I do is worry about them, take care of them. fork out money. A lot of labels would say we love what you do, we just don't know what to do with you. And I would be met with that all the time. And so I think

you just got to keep making music. Well, and, you know, this whole big loud thing. Like, I talked to you after that happened. And... Do you want to say what that is before you talk about it? Do you mind talking... No, I haven't gotten to talk about it.

Would you like to talk about it? Yeah. So then let's back up. And first of all, Big Loud is a label. Yes. It's also a management. It's a thing, but they signed you. They signed me. And like they are, you know, by all conventional standards crushing it. They, at the time that I signed with them, had Morgan Wallen and Hardy and earnest. And they were trying to expand. And I had already made. no one gets out alive. The record was done. It was mastered. I was probably going to just release it the way I'd released my previous two albums. Which is? Change the whole thing. No, no, no. You say released it as you did your last two albums. Just independently. Got it. Like with a, I have a good team of publicists and distributors and, you know, we would hire independent promotion and everything more for AAA radio and Americana focuses. But Nate Yetton, heard this record and he was hired as an A&R which is kind of the could be the coolest job ever your

job is to go find good music yeah let's go find it and build it he uh his specific objective with Big Loud was to broaden their musical roster to find critical acclaim like he told me and my husband Austin he's like you know we want a Grammy critical acclaim by the way artists that you're respected for having, but may not be commercially as viable, but you're like, they're really good and the critics love them. And there's a difference. But they wanted something that wasn't populist type. Because Morgan's killing, Hardy's killing it. And people will be like, well, you got people that are making hits. They wanted a symphony. Yeah. And that's you. They wanted you. I was totally flattered and inspired by the vision. And it was,

surprising to me. I don't feel like I was definitely the outlier on their roster. And in terms of critical acclaim, like, no, I'm not shy about saying that we've had no shortage of that the last couple of records. And that goes back to your question

about, you know, frustration and myself and people. It's like, yeah, that was there. I think credibility is another word I would use. Not to interrupt you. I just want to make sure our audience knows what's going on. I think they want a credibility for music with depth. Yeah. Not that the other guys don't have it, but they're killing it. Again, I use the populist in a very populous way.

They want credibility. Right. Yeah. When I think they're a young enough company that that was the right time for them to then take that step in the direction to say, okay, we can do more than just have these massive streaming darlings and go direct to consumer and have a hit. And I have no doubt that they love this record.

That's not something that I negate and I appreciate their vision in it, but it was an undeniable offer. It was like, we're going to acquire this whole album. We made beautiful music videos. We did all this incredible artwork and packaging with Sophia Matanazade and Nikki Fletcher shooting these videos. And they talked about partnering with Polidore out of UK. and just how this is going to be, you know, an adult contemporary pop album, and they were really going to strategize on the marketing plan. And they were promising and using resources.

Yes, and it wasn't, like, they implemented those resources in a lot of ways. And, you know, I'd already waited to put this music out. So with that promise of this plan, I waited a little longer, and it came out in April of 24. And they put billboards all over East Nashville. We did these showcases in New York City and L.A. We got on these great reviews upon the release. And then it was like radio silence.

Which is what they were looking for, by the way, to have an artist that would be reviewed wonderfully by critics. Right. The snobby part, which is important. Yeah. Yeah, the people that, yeah. So you get what they brought you to do. You have created something, and what you created was exactly what they had asked you to do.

You went and did it all, and then silent. Yeah. From who? What do you mean silent? Like, from, and there's a lot of people, like I think Candace Watkins is amazing there. She was really engaged, and I'm not sure that she, she like me, I think, was blindsided about the whole. thing. But I'm out on the road. I'm on the no one gets out a live tour. I find out that some of the digital marketing spending is comparable to like what I did on my own with one

song on the previous record. And it's like all this investment leading up to the release. And then it's like someone freaked out or something happened. And I can speculate and I can only speculate because no one's called me and told me what's happened. What do you think happened? I think Seth England had a falling out with Morgan Wallen and freaked out and dropped me and a lot of other people who had stuff going on. And I also think that they realized that they didn't have the capacity within their staff to work the kind of music I was releasing. They are great with Spotify and these streaming services and all that stuff.

but like the nuance that they talked about using with this music, they didn't have it. They just didn't have the stuff. And it was three months after we put this record out. Like it can't be based on metrics. It can't be based on analytics of how the music is performing. It has even been out long enough. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wadam.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,

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The director of the NFL's East-West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode.

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I'm going to lose. Tighten up your core. Said E.K. You're kicking it with four things. With Amy Brown. Third quote, you're not stressed because you're doing too much. You are stressed because you are doing too little of what makes you feel the most alive. I'm going that one again.

You're not stressed because you're doing too much. You are stressed because you're doing too little of what makes you feel the most alive, which I guess I should say that with these quotes, I did a lot of research and there's not any one person that said these things first. I feel like these have been said in a few different ways lots of times over and over. So we're just more unknown quotes. So again, you're not stressed because you're doing too much. You are stressed because you're doing too little of what makes you feel the most alive. And I read that again because this is one that I need to read often. It flips the script on stress. Like we always think, I need to do less. That's why I say I need this

quote more and more because I say that. That is me. On my hinge profile a long time ago, it was like, what do you want to do this year? And I just kept my answer short and sweet. And I just said, do less. And some of the guys that would initiate conversation with me around that, they'd be like, like, oh, I love that. And then I could tell the other guys weren't really feeling that answer, and they would, like, challenge it a little bit. And I don't know, for me in that moment, that's what I felt resonated with me the most for the year. I wanted to do less. But the example that I got for you, you know, of someone that I don't even know, like, let's say someone's plate is full. Like, they've got work meetings. They've got like a full kid calendar. There's chores.

there's errands. We all know what that is like. They're running on empty, exhausted. But when was the last time that maybe they did something that truly lit them up? Like maybe this person loves painting or hiking or even just sitting at a coffee shop with a good book. Adding one thing that makes you feel alive can completely shift your energy. And sometimes it's not about doing less. It's about doing more of the right things. But sometimes, Sometimes we just have a lot of things to get done that are just on our list to get done. And we don't really have a choice because if we don't do them, how will they get done? I mean, and we can have help and different people that we work with and whatnot.

But still, there can be an ongoing list of things that we need to get done and it can feel overwhelming. But if you sprinkle in the things that give you that joy that fill your cup up, Leanne and I were actually even talking about this today with each other of community and connection with friends and how sometimes we isolate and we think we're having solitude but it turns into isolation and then we don't really have community and connection with our friends and we don't realize that's all we need. And if we were to have one hike with a friend, one coffee date with a friend, even one chat with a friend over the phone or FaceTime or something, Instantly, our cup can start to fill up and our energy can start to shift. So it doesn't have to be this drastic thing. It can be as simple as a phone call with a friend. So take that little nugget. And yeah, Houston, roll that beautiful Leon audio. Okay, so this message hit me like a ton of bricks when I first, you know, got the memo because for so long, I thought I was stressed because I had too much

on my plate. But what I've come to realize is that my stress wasn't from doing too much. It was from who I was or wasn't being when I was doing the doing. And for me, I was trying to do all the things from a place of stress or disorder or just, you know, total lack of belief in myself. And then the big one for me was doing all the things that I thought I was supposed to do or that I thought that I was supposed to want to do. And totally ignoring what makes me more of who I and what truly lights me up. And when I finally started prioritizing the things that made me feel alive, and that's things like, you know, writing and teaching what I'm meant to be teaching

and connecting with people who just get me, or, you know, just simple things like taking a walk outside and feeling the sunshine on my face and knowing that those things do have value, even if, you know, society doesn't necessarily deem that stuff productive, all of that completely shifted my relationship with stress and that hustle mentality. And I actually just talked about this on the God pod about how I navigate the noise and find peace in a world of over-stimulation. The lesson you struggle with will repeat itself until you learn from it. Now, this one is a little tough love, that's for sure, but it is so true.

Like life has a way of sending us the same challenges over and over until we figure out what we're supposed to learn. And I know that I have certainly seen that happen in my own life. imagine someone who keeps ending up in toxic friendships. Like they're always the one giving, always the one fixing, and it always ends in drama. Like it's easy to blame the other person, but what if the real lesson is about boundaries? And until this person learns how to set boundaries, then they're going to keep finding themselves in the same situation. Once they get it, though, it really is a total game changer and the pattern will stop and they will move forward stronger than ever. but the lesson will keep popping up.

So if you have something going on your life and you're like, oh, why does this keep happening to me? Maybe say, oh, wow, this just happened again. I recognize this.

What am I supposed to be learning from this? Invite the information to come to you. Invite the lesson in. Ask questions. If you are confiding in a friend, like say you're this person that ends up in these toxic friends. friendships, right? What if you have a confidant that you can talk to about these toxic friendships, and they notice it too? Are you going to be willing to receive that information from a trusted

friend? Can you open up to that friend and say, hey, I'd love to get your insight on something. Like, I keep ending up in these same patterns. Is there anything you notice that I could do differently, or if you have a therapist, being honest about these relationships, instead of just going into the conversation with your friend and gossiping about the toxic person and just being the victim and talking all about what this other person did, open up to where you could have done some things differently. We're going to do it live. We are the one, two, three, sore losers.

What up, everybody. I am Lunchbox. know the most about sports. So I give you the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius. Y'all, it's Sizzin. I'm from the north. I'm an alpha male. I live on the north side of Nashville with Beazer, my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful. A lot of acreage. No animals. A lot of crops, hopefully soon. Corn, pumpkins, rye, I believe, maybe a little fescue. To be determined. Over to you, coach. And here's a clip from this week's episode of the sore losers.

So Bree, who I told at the beginning of the night, she was going to get to meet Keith Urban, and I just totally made it up. Got her picture with Keith Urban. Yeah! Is what happens when you come to a coach's convention. You don't know what's going to happen. The time of her life, she's about to go on the ice, and she meets Keith Urban. That's why you're big time, dude.

That's why I sent you down in lieu of me. him around her. Keith Irman put his arm around Bree. He was like, let's take a picture. I sent you forth as tribute onto the ice. I said, I am 15 nooners deep. I am floating. And she was on cloud nine after that. She was like, oh my gosh. And I was like, I'm sorry, my camera's not that good. My phone is old. Polaroid. I hope it is not too blurry. And she looked at it and she goes, oh, it is a little blurry. I'm like, oh, Bree, I'm sorry. But I love it. It's perfect. It was a live pick. one chance. We got one shot. One opportunity, not the lines, Ray, M&M screwed them. So'd Haley.

Yeah. And so then we go down to the ice. A mile. And let me tell you, they're getting in their orbs. We already talked about the orb. Did you just jump cell and then foreshadow? We went downstairs. What the cliffhanger? And we're about to go on the ice, dude. And I'm standing there with Wayne D. And I'm telling them how last year

you gave Daps to the referees. I did? Yes. I was 15 deep that year, too. And Wayne D goes, oh man, these refs, they think They think they're all important. They think they're so amazing. They come off all like badasses.

Like they're, you know, run this world. Like, hey, bro, your job is to babysit millionaires that play hockey. No one cares about you guys. So they're coming off the ice in between the second, third period. And I get my camera out and I'm filming. And I'm like, hey, good job keeping them in line out there. They're misbehaving a lot tonight. And the ref goes, what did you say to me?

Who are you? Who is this guy? Who is this guy? What's he doing down here? And Wayne D is like, he's good, don't worry about it. He's like, what did you, why are you talking to me? Who's Wendy your sponsor? Now Wayne D's afternoons, dude.

I know I was setting you up for that. Gotcha. Does afternoons here on WSIX. Good dude, he hooked up Abby Arnold's wife, girlfriend singing the national anthem. Correct. And the ref just, and then the, there's ref that wouldn't even out there when I said it. He comes off the ice and gives me a look like, what's your problem? So they just don't like people picking on them during the intermission.

Dude, I told him good job. Those guys are really misbehaving out there tonight. You guys are doing a good job of keeping them in line. After review, I see nothing wrong. Game of compliment, dude. What did you say? What did you say to me? Who are you?

What's he doing down here? What did you start doing? Mom. I was like, sorry, sir. I said you're doing a good job. And Wayne D's like, he's fine, he's fine. Get out of here. Get out of here.

You get in a fight? Dude, I thought I was about to get kicked out of the freaking arena. We were hosting the night. I was about to go on ice with Bree and Carolyn when they were going to do their thing, and I was going to speak into the microphone. Family, it is taking a plot twist. Dad's going to jail. He just got kicked out of the game.

Yeah, the ref, number five, referee number five, got pissed off because I say he was doing a good job. Probably a Michigan guy. Hey, slap it and whack it on the ice. They got so pissed off. Hey, go to Michigan, yeah, that old pond, nothing like that kind of ice there. Yeah, yep. Doing good there. A lot of snow up there, eh. Low temps. Good call there, eh. That's probably what I'd have done if I was down there.

Yeah, he wasn't happy with me. So we do the orb thing. We go to the game. Preds win. We're up there in the Grand Hyatt suite. Thank you to the Grand Hyatt for hosting us and everything you do. You're amazing. Words can't express. We don't do sweets. No, we don't do sweets. We don't do sweets. You know what? Damn right. We did it on Saturday. You know what we did? We damn said sweets. So we're like, all right, Grand I mean. I'm in. And the National Predators, thank you. you for the happy hour. Thank you for hosting us. Thank you for letting two girls dream come true to get down on it. Hold on. To get down on the ice. I mean, it was awesome. It's phenomenal. Great, great overall event. Then we went out on Broadway, man, and I dipped out like right when you

were getting kicked out of the bar, I dipped out the back door. I know we're going to go to commercial. They reviewed the tape and said I did nothing wrong. It was a one foot on the stage acted like I was going to jump on stage, but then immediately jump back. Yeah. And I believe it was a manager or somebody there that I found out through our friends at stage pilot. They said they reviewed it. They actually have to do that on stuff like that. I did nothing wrong. Oh, okay. And your sister was a pretty hammered muff and she was just going around the bar. Good showing, muff. She was just yelling at everybody. She would go, hey, you, you. Yeah, that lion's lost. That's on you. That's on you. People said that she was knocking on car windows and then roll it down. She'd be like, that lost, that was on you guys. That was on you guys. What are you talking about? I'm driving an Uber. And one guy goes, I'm from Israel. I don't know what you mean. She was like, oh yeah, you know, it's on you.

I mean, somebody's got to get blamed for that, man. Needless to say, she still made her 6 a.m. flight, man. She told me it took her whole week to recover. I'll bet. Now we'll take a break. We'll talk about Sunday. We'll be right back. Dude, Sunday morning.

Escape game, Nashville, dude. Never done it. Convenient. Right next to Broad. Right next to Broadway, right off Broadway, right downtown. You get locked in a room. You got to figure out these clues to get these keys to get out of there to get to another room to another room. you're finally escape, you have one hour to do it.

And we did school yard pick. And of course I'm taking Carl from West Point first. No problem. Took his wife. Yeah, you took his wife. You took Becky. And she's been in bed all week sick. So there must have been something going on in your room that everybody was sick.

And then I pretty much drafted everybody that was on my axe throwing team. I wanted them back. I wanted redemption. Because I knew I had a smart team. I knew I had a good team. And dude, that was the most fun. I loved. The escape room.

Guys, people have said it. Vegas, you got to do flamingos and fountains, not just slots and fun, or slots and what's an F, what's an F, and mountains, POW gamma. Ferrys. Yes, that.

You got it in Ferris wheels. Do something else, and that's what Escape game is. It's not all drinking on Broadway. Do that, dude. We got our minds working. The most I've laughed might be an skate game. Hilarious.

Because everybody's making fun of everybody. At one point, dude, I did the math wrong. You know, guys, I'm known as the mathematician on the show. And the lady comes over the innercom and she goes, if you need a hint, do the math again. I would did 5 and 7 is 12 and it was like 5 and 6 is 13. Totally did the math wrong. That's pretty impressive.

Yeah, so it was stuff like that. And you got Joe at one point. There was a thing. I don't want to ruin it. He was ball sacking you. He had to reach up. And it was at the exact same time simultaneously. I had to reach down.

So if you do it properly, somebody's going to be on all fours and the other person's going to be their legs are over your head. And, I mean, it looked like me and him were banging. Yeah, I did look like that. It was pretty weird. But I said, Joe, you want to get the next room or not? Teabagged me. Yeah, we, I mean, it was just so funny when you think you discover something.

Oh, I got it. I got it. It doesn't work. Oh, never mind. You get so excited and let down. They're so excited and laughing. And, I mean, we were, my team got locked in two separate cells. So we only had three people in each room.

We were in two separate rooms. And we had to communicate through the walls and stuff. It was so freaking fun. point, his wife, she was great. Plugging in those numbers and everything like that. I kind of floated. I would do a lot of the math type stuff. Day one's up and down.

Dude, at one point she was on all fours. Day one's on all four. Ryan, dude, I was on my back at another point, another person on all fours. It was one of those where you had to be low, up, down. It didn't matter what you were doing in there. How do you escape, hence the name? Yeah. Escape game.

It's not about looking good in there. And we talked about this. how funny is it the people that work there just watching us run around like a bunch of idiots running from spot to spot thinking we got something oh no that doesn't work oh trying this and we they have to laugh their ass off yeah and our biggest fault guys take note of this we try to do six things at once jump and accomplish one task because we's family instead you had the kid doing the dishes the dad cutting firewood the mom quilting the other son reading a comic book work as a family and do one task at a time, which is what we should have done.

It was our biggest fault. You guys killed us. When I told you, we were supposed to get three clues. We knew we'd already lost. We got five clues. We got another five. We got no less than 15 clues. And we still, I guess we finished.

And they added five minutes to our time. Bro, we didn't even come damn close to beating you guys. We needed one clue to escape. We needed one clue. We were down to four minutes on the clock when we got our one clue. Tell me right now, damn it. Is West Point? Is he Mensa? He's Mensa. Anybody who has followed me for a long time is going to be like, this is a no-brainer episode.

I'm so excited because this week I am joined by Catherine Hurley, who is one of the founders of Wags and Walks, which is a huge rescue organization for animals. And I'm just so excited to have this conversation. Catherine, thank you for joining me. How are you? I'm great. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having us and highlighting our work. turning to that really big crisis that we're in right now. Yeah.

I've seen it. I mean, I'm on so many different Facebook pages. It's all over my feeds of just the abandonment that's happening, the breeder crisis, the lack of resources, everything. What is going on right now? Like this huge crisis that is happening. And what are some things that people, just a normal person like me, can do to help? Yeah.

It's certainly overwhelming. I've been doing this since I got out of college, so like 12 years. And there was a really short window before COVID where like we saw some numbers improving. And COVID just took us back so far. There are so many different factors on the why behind it. I think a lot of it is like people are struggling financially. So you have a whole sector of people that like probably would keep their. dogs but feel like their back is against the wall. And then because there's like a lack of resources to meet them, that's where you see abandonment, dogs being dumped. I mean, just the amount of dogs are like literally like left in apartments because people are like, I'm moving, the amount of emails I get. And it's hard right to balance empathy for people because you have to have it because if you don't, you will be jaded. And at the end of the day, like we have to work together to get through the problems. But then on the other hand, you get some of these emails or you see these scenarios and you're like, how? Like, how is this what the decision that you made?

Like to literally lock the door, leave and like your dog is still inside. And who did you think was going to help you? And that's not even going into the realm of the abuse and the horrible scenarios that can also be the case of it. So as a rescue, it's like you've got this reason and this reason and this reason. So it's like, okay, well, what can we do? you know so going into shelters it's um and again you it's hard because you you want to balance like i said it earlier the sarah mclaughlin commercial and not trying to be that but also trying to be very honest of what's going on is like i go into shelters every single week and i see dogs marked up

on their kennels and i'm like you're dying today and it does not matter how many dogs that we can try and save every single week there's the next day there's going to be dogs that have to be euthanized and there's a massive misconception surrounding shelters and high kill shelters and oh, is that a kill shelter? And when you have a shelter that is 150 kennels and 190 dogs come in, what do you think is going to happen? You know, so I try to tell me like, it's at the end of the day, it's a community problem. And you cannot blame shelter workers who do what you and do what you and.

I can't even do. Like I couldn't show up to work every day and take care of dogs that are there for whatever rhyme or reason and then euthanize them because no one wants them. Like that is a gut-runching pill to have to swallow and then go up and do it the next day. So I'm like, I'm so thankful to people to work in shelters because at least being on the rescue side, we lose dogs. I have to see really sad things. I have to be a part of really sad things. But I still get to go, I'm helping. I'm making a difference. They of course are as well. But when then you're having to be the one that like is the last person to see a healthy dog get put to sleep. I mean, I don't, it's hard to envision, you know, a more heart-wrenching job. So there's a very real crisis going on that like, and it's not,

it's not just the old dogs. It's not dogs of behavior problems. We have taken in so many puppies this year that they're like, no one wants them. It's a litter of black puppies. Like they're going to get euthanized. Can you take them today? And I think people think that's like clickbait or like fake information. And it is not in L.A. in the South. You know, Tennessee is horrible. Texas is horrible. It's everywhere.

And it's brutal. You know, we've seen domestic violence went up in COVID. So did animal abuse. Horting. You know, you have people struggling financially, mental health, all of it. I mean, we went to so many hoarding cases this year. properties where I'm like there's literally just dead dogs just on the ground. And you disassociate in the moment.

But I mean, like, that's something that like that stays with you as a person. And so I say to my husband all the time, like, but if they had to go through it and we had to see it, it is my job to make sure people hear it. Because I think then if you don't, it's very easy to justify buying your dog or breeding your dog or you know, it's like if it's a supply and demand and you're somebody that's choosing to financially benefit off of the breeding of animals knowing there's an overpopulation issue, I think that at that point it becomes a morality question. How you, how you sit on that side of it or how you value it is, I guess, a very personal decision, but certainly from where I'm sitting, I'm like, I don't

know how someone does that and can go to bed feeling good about themselves. You know, I often tell people when especially like the the conversation of abandonment comes up it's it's obviously a thing that is a very controversial to say you know i there's not a lot of um excuses that i believe in to abandon your animal there's really not to me yeah and i know that's a really strong opinion and i also am somebody who is a i am an empath like huge empathy my heart is as big as it can possibly get but there are so many ways to go about that and there are so many ways to do something, then abandoning or knowing that when you're surrendering your animal to a shelter, it is going to die. And one of my strongest things that I say that often makes people, you know, stop kind of in their tracks is you won't want to abandon your

animal or surrender them or get a breeder dog. If you have watched an animal, happy getting out of their shelter walking, thinking they're about to have the best day ever and they're walking into a room and they don't come out. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodeham. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell.

My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means. but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent,

I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.

If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast.

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And this week on Movie Mike's Movie Podcast, I shared my top 10 most anticipated movies of 2025. The ones that even if I didn't have this podcast where I review movies every single week, I would still go pay money to watch these in theaters because they look awesome. So I'll share you my top two right now. But be sure to listen to my full episode to hear my entire list because there's a lot of great stuff coming out this year. But right now, here's just a little bit of Movie Mike's movie podcast. At number two, even more so, the Fantastic Four movie is the other Marvel movie coming out this year that I'm excited for. Captain America, Brave New World coming out on Valentine's Day,

February 14th. This one's right around the corner. We have our new Captain America, Anthony Mackie, which if you miss the Disney Plus show, which I feel they kind of wasted it there. You learn so much about his character in that show, but I feel like not a whole lot of people watch that show. So hopefully they don't base a whole lot of this plot on that show, which I think that's something Disney is trying to get away from, of not making the movies connect with the TV shows. I think those should be completely separate. And I know Kevin Feigy has always just kind of drilled that mentality of thinking about the bigger picture, making things interlock.

But I think and hope that he learned that we... We don't really want the TV shows to connect with the movies. I think we should keep those separate. I really think the Disney Plus show should be entire side quests and not involve with the main MCU storyline. Do it with some side characters. Do more animated shows. Do more things like X-Men 97.

They give us a reason to go to Disney Plus, but not a reason to have to go see things in theaters and go back to you. So hopefully, by making that show it didn't take away from the impact of Sam Wilson taking over for Steve Rogers, which is huge. And I really feel like that reveal on the big screen would have been more impactful because now we've already seen it on Disney Plus. So there's not going to be that big awe factor

because we kind of have already seen it. We've kind of wasted that already. I get why they wanted to make that show. But if you think of how Endgame finished with those two characters, If that was the last thing we saw with Chris Evans giving him the shield and then moving on to this movie, which I guess would have been hard to do because that movie came out like five years ago at this point. I think over that now, it would have been a long time to wait. But still, the trailer does give me some chills.

Moments where he says, I'm not Steve Rogers. I feel like it's really going to be Sam coming into his own, taking over this role, taking on Harrison Ford, who's going to go from being. President Thunderbolt Ross into the Red Hulk, but the action looks up to par with those early Captain America movies, which I think out of any movie in the MCU, it had the best fight scenes. First one, Captain America Civil War,

that is what I feel was the creme de la creme of the MCU, the fight scenes in the Captain America movies. But can you do that without Chris Evans at the helm? But I'm so excited for this movie. It's coming out soon. I'm not really that interested of how it's going to play into the timeline. I don't care what this movie sets up. I really don't care about what all these things are building to at this point.

I just want individual good movies. Even if the Avengers movies are completely separate from the plotline, I don't really care at this point. I just want to have fun and feel excitement when going to Marvel movies now. But at number two, I have Captain America, Brave New World, coming out soon on February 14th. At number one, I have Superman coming out on July 11th.

This is the new launch, at least, on the film side, of James Gunn taking over for DC. He is going to be the new person, much like Kevin Feigy is for Marvel, who is the president of Marvel, and is responsible for keeping everything cohesive and for having things connect and building a big brand. He is the person now who is going to direct movies like Superman,

but also make sure that every film that they put out is in line with values, has continuity, feels like the same from one movie to another, which is something that the MCU did really well. They had a whole system in place that no matter what director was directing each particular movie, they all felt the same way. You have cameos from one to another, and it's all the same actors, all the same people. He is going to be that now for DC.

Just the trailer came out. I think I've thought about this movie every single day, and the movie just feels so warm and inviting and fresh that every shot just on its own looks like a page out of a comic book. It's so perfectly framed. And I feel like this is really going to dive into what makes Superman such a great character. The OG superhero, the most famous superhero, and really give us that best version of him since Christopher Reeves back in the day introducing the character on the big screen. I also love that James Gunn is so heavily invested in stories from comics with the Superman character.

that is going to bring a lot of that to life. And overall, all the characters just look really fun and vibrant and cosmic at times where they need to be. And I just feel like this is going to be one of those movies that once it starts from one second up there, when you see that DC logo to the very end, it's going to feel like a perfect movie. And it's the one I'm just the most excited to be in the theater to watch because I think it's going to be one of those core movie memories. for me. And I've had maybe three of those since 2019, probably since endgame, I would say, that have really popped. And I just remember that moment of watching them for the first time. I think that is going to be inside a Superman. And that's why I put it at number one,

because as much as I can't wait to see the new character in American movie, I don't think that or anything below it is going to have one of those memories. So I think this is the one I'm the most excited to see because I think it could be one of my next favorite superhero movies. And I feel that. And I think also it is one that's going to have to win me over a little bit because I wouldn't even put Superman in my top five superheroes of all time. So I think it's going to be having my first iteration that I could fully be in love with Superman. As much passion as it is there, is Superman going to win my heart? and my good to fall in love for those blue eyes and slid bag hair and red trunks could be so maybe that's why i'm so

excited about this is i'm ready to hook up a superman and be at love with them are you a pretty faithful person yes do you have a lot of faith that yeah absolutely god and that it's all gonna align i can't not like there's just been too many things in life for me to like too many instances where i'm like thank you god i see you like i see you in this what any in particular that you can come to mind because I feel the same way. When I look back on my life, I'm like, it all is God. Every day. Like there's not even really specific instances I can point out, but I just think it's, again, it goes back to that.

Like when I think of trust in your gut, I truly think that's trust in God for me. Mm-hmm. That is my guiding light. And I feel like every time that I have, you know, trusted, I try to trust all the time. It's hard. You got to have a lot of patience and you question. it a lot of times obviously. And sometimes there's like waiting periods.

Right. Yeah. Especially when you're creative like yourself. Like sometimes there's like long waiting periods. You're like God. What? Yeah. I'm supposed to be doing.

I've never, I'll put it this way. I've never had something removed from my life that I wasn't grateful for in the long run or you know, vice versa. So I just feel like there's a sense of faith there. I grew up in faith. But it's just, it's one of those things as an adult. It's just been shown to me. Like I just see it in every day.

day instances and short term and long term to not have faith that God's guide my life. So don't you think it kind of, it kind of takes their pressure off though because it does. How does how does God feel to you? Because I finally have realized I can feel it in my, I feel it in my stomach. God is love. But like I can get God is love. But when I'm on track, it's like I feel very calm. I feel aligned. Yeah. It's a peace. Peace almost. When I'm not, I can feel. I can feel. out of balance like for sure feel like I'm not do I can feel like I'm not on the right right course yeah it's almost like just fighting your natural instinct yes or like a sense of being on edge or uneasness and that's just I mean that can come with anything

and anxiety in general which I do struggle a lot with and we all have her bouts of our moments but I don't know it's just like a a faith that is steady and true all the time and again like I said, there's never been anything that I feel like didn't work for my favor in the long run. In God's eyes, you know, like for my life specifically, I feel like everything that has happened in my life has led me exactly where I need to be. Good or bad, like not even not making top four on the voice. Like I could have easily seen that as like a I suck moment or like, you know, I'm not meant to do this. But I just, I see so many paths and opportunities waiting to be. taken if you just like listen and pray about it if you're you know if you're a person of faith so

how do you feel god speaking to you like how do you know when god's telling you which way to go i think it's like you said like that sense of peace and it's not always it's not i mean it's not always like a voice saying this or that have you heard a voice i mean i think when i hear the voice it's it's my own it's through god like god speaking through your thoughts yeah i would say so I think it's more of just like you, you just kind of feel which way you're being pulled, which direction you're being pulled in. So, yeah, there's never like a surefire answer. I feel like how you feel God, because I feel like everybody feels God at a different way, you know. But for me, that is, it's the sense of peace I get in the middle of all the angst and anxiety and

what gives you anxiety? Struggle. Oh, everything in life, girl. Life in general. I think I'm just an anxious person. I feel things really heavily and really deeply. And I want to see people happy. I want to be happy. So yeah, I don't know. I think just feeling things super deep, like it creates some emotional challenges. But yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't have it any other way because I think that's what makes musicians and creatives like great at what they do is feeling things to the core. what when you think about your music like what is music to you like when you're writing and singing like what is happening in you like what are you what is coming through you when you're putting it out there how do you feel about it if you're going to describe it in three words if you were just

going to describe the experience for you and like what's happening when you're making music and singing what are you what's happening what's the experience well with making music i think with writing, I'm still so new to it. I consider myself new to it. I've been doing it for six years officially, I guess, but I think it's just like, I hate to keep relating it back to the clothes thing, but it's like everybody has their own way of writing and you know how you would or wouldn't say things in real life. And so when you go in a room to write, it's like you know the feelings you want to convey. You know like semi the message you want to convey. And I think when you're writing, it's just kind of like saying stuff until it feels right, until it fits the moment.

So I wish it was like this next level experience for me, but it's literally like doing homework when I'm writing. But when I'm singing, like I, it just feels so, I feel more like a normal person and a human being being on stage and singing than I do in like everyday life. there's just such a natural comfortability that comes for me when being on stage that doesn't happen for me in a lot. That's wild because that's a big it's scary to be on stage. It is

but it's like the one place where I guess I've always felt like fully accepted maybe is what it is and so in everyday life you're just kind of floating around like meeting new people and new experiences and new things and there's such an uncertainty so it's just it's so funny to me that

the most I feel myself is when I'm in front of a bunch of people. That's amazing. But I think it's just for the sake of knowing that I'm there to connect with people and hopefully find a moment between me and somebody else that will allow us to continue to be each other's support and like, I don't know what to call it. Like therapy, I guess. I love that. That's about all I see.

We're all in this together. Yeah, we all got stuff we're struggling with every day. And my goal was like if I can at least make you forget about it for the time being, make you dance, or make you sit in the feeling for a second, make you really feel it to know that it's okay to feel that. Like, no matter what the feeling is, I just want to, as long as it connects, that's all I care about. Thank you guys for listening to the Sunday sampler. New episodes out weekly to all those shows. Maybe you heard a clip. Go check out the full episode.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

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from hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcasts on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian. Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police.

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