The Bobby Bones Show - Sunday Sampler - The Nashville Podcast Network (7-30-23)

Episode Date: July 30, 2023

In this new weekly series, we are sharing highlight clips from the past week of five podcasts on The Nashville Podcast Network- The Bobbycast, 4 Things with Amy Brown, Sore Losers, Get Real with Carol...ine Hobby and Movie Mike's Movie Podcast!   You can listen to new episodes weekly wherever you get your podcasts! Find them on Instagram: -The Bobbycast- @bobbycast  @mrbobbybones -4 Things- @radioamy -Sore Losers- @soreloserspodcast -Get Real- @carohobby -Movie Mikes Movie Podcast- @mikedeestro  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or web. you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliver Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes,
Starting point is 00:00:56 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clivert Show on the I-Henberg. hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest.
Starting point is 00:01:17 The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcasts
Starting point is 00:01:40 on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, Bobby Bones here to introduce you to a new weekly podcast out every Sunday featuring five of my favorite podcasts on the Nashville Podcast Network.
Starting point is 00:02:05 The Bobbycast, Four Things with Amy Brown. So are losers, hosted by Lunchbox and Ray Mundo, Get Real with Caroline Hobby and Mike D's movie, movie podcast. All these podcasts cover a variety of topics from music to movies to healthy living to self-care and sports, and the hosts usually have a, well, different guest or expert, or they're an expert in their own mind. So each Sunday, we're going to share highlights with you guys. To get us started highlighting some clips, here is Lily Rose on the Bobbycast, talking about being defined by only one genre and how she,
Starting point is 00:02:37 really didn't take off until she downloaded TikTok. You're figuring out who you are, and again, you didn't have a genre, but naturally, you can kind of come to just because the, just the guts of this town's music. Of course, it's country, but it's more than that because the songwriters are here, the studios are here, the pub. So, I feel like your country. I just wouldn't have ever thought you weren't. Yeah, I didn't grow up listening to country.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Like, my parents didn't, and none of my friends' parents did either. But seventh grade, somebody put on, I go back on a boombox in my backyard and I was like, what is that? But that's also okay. Who I really don't like are the people that are, well, if you didn't, if you can't differentiate Merle from Waylon. And it's like that is not fair. Yeah. Because you're cutting out such a wonderfully talented group of people that have the same fundamental. country
Starting point is 00:03:41 storytelling, but I say country, but like storytelling sensibilities. Yeah. I mean, you just happen to be from the southeast,
Starting point is 00:03:49 but heck, you could have been from Southern California, but it's all an understanding and how you're doing the art more than anything else. 100%. Yeah, and I mean,
Starting point is 00:03:57 sometimes, you know, when I first, when villain exploded and I was really starting to do these interviews and press and stuff like that, I would get so nervous when people had rapid fire questions,
Starting point is 00:04:06 you could have any genre or any era of country music, what would it be? And I was like, oh, should I just be fake and say the 90s? And I'm like, you want to know what? Screw it. The Rascal Flats era. I am like 05 to 2011 country.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And that's honestly the most fun answer to get whenever you're an interviewer talking to somebody. Yeah. And I've made jokes about how people have to be like, you know, Cash. Now, luckily for me, I grew up in Arkansas and Johnny Cash was from Arkansas. My grandma was obsessed with him. So I had all that forced on me. Yeah. And I had it forced on me.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I probably wouldn't have found it, right? So I don't think that there's a difference, really. and you hearing I go back in seventh grade and my grandma going, you have to listen to Johnny Cash because he's like Gus, he's from Arkansas. No difference. I don't think there is either,
Starting point is 00:04:46 and I'm so excited. When people tell me, I never liked country music, and then I heard you, and I'm in. And it was like my gateway. And I think Morgan does that for the genre, the best right now for everyone.
Starting point is 00:04:59 But it's like, what is the difference of, you know, everyone has, whether it's your grandma playing it for you. I got a bit. I mentioned this maybe one of the last two. I got a bit that I do. my stand-up act that I talk about how people make fun of, well, that ain't country.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Well, then the only things that are country are artists of color from Africa that brought the banjo over or Europeans that brought the fiddle. Yeah. Like that's literally. Yeah. That's the genesis of country music. Yeah. That's where the banjo it comes from in the southeast was slaves coming from from the slave ship. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:29 So it's like, well, there ain't overalls and chewing on a straw and talking about a truck that ain't. It's like you have the most uneducated people are the ones that say that. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of truth in country music that doesn't have to revolve around trucks. It really fires me up. Yeah. I'm talking about. Me too.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Just, oh. And, you know, country, I was not a cowboy. I was more of a hillbilly. Yeah. Some would say a redneck even at times. Just from where I was. And so, yeah, I don't, I never wore a cowboy. I won't wear a cowboy head now because I ain't a cowboy.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And I don't want to even act like I was a cowboy ever. But when I first moved here, but because. I had done pop and hip hop and sports and alternative. And it's like, well, you're not country. I'm like, bro, why don't you come to the trailer park in Arkansas and tell me what I ain't? Yeah. You know, we're all. 100%.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So, yeah, I hate that for you. Not just for you, but you, the understood you have people that are super talented, have a voice, an authentic message, and then you're told what you are and what you aren't. Yeah. And it's like, and if you look at it, I've now loved country music for more years than I haven't. You know, like I've loved it for more than half of my life now. So, well that being said, too, if there's like a pop star that is like struggling and they come over and want to do country, I'm like, all right. But then there are some who love it, who come over and who like action, like Diplo, Diplo loves country music.
Starting point is 00:06:51 He loves country music. And it's not even his first foray into it, like with what you guys are doing together. That man loves country music. It is a, it's been really fun to watch him. He doesn't have to do country music. No. I guess is my point. Sometimes they'll be like, and I don't want to take a shot at him, like Brett Michaels, who was in Poison and decided to launch a country career.
Starting point is 00:07:08 It was super nice. Sure. But it's like, you're doing country because the other stuff's not working new, so you're going to come home. That I don't love. Yeah. Yeah. When I came here from Austin, I was killing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I did not have to come here. Yeah. I wanted to come here. Yeah. And that I like. That was me too. I could have gone to L.A. Like, I really had thoughts of like if I'm going to go more in a pop direction, artist-wise,
Starting point is 00:07:34 L.A. seems like the place to be. But I was like, I want to write country songs. Whenever you. said hey I'm a country artist and you started to talk to managers or publishers where they ever like you got to date a dude can't date girls in country oh no
Starting point is 00:07:48 but also like no one gave me the time of day until villain so it was that just they didn't say that yeah I like I legit had never been contacted or answered by a single person in town until I downloaded TikTok and
Starting point is 00:08:04 did it a little late I guess not really in retrospect but it's like 2020 and I saw Priscilla and Janakis both get deals and I was like I have good songs too. I'm going to download it. I feel too old for the app. I was 27 at the time. I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:18 I'm not dancing or anything like that. And I put up every demo I had and one of them did pretty well. I was coming over from Instagram with like 2,000 followers. What was the one that did pretty well? They gave you a little hope but wasn't filling. Yeah. It was a song called Two Lonely People. People still comment and want it all the time, but it's not happening.
Starting point is 00:08:35 But Rekiah Marshall actually slid into my DMs. She was working as a publisher at BMG at the time. She also dated Seth England. They now have a kid together and are engaged. Got it. But little did I know she was trying to start her own company. But I just saw her as like she works at BMG. Holy cow, I can get a $30,000 a year pub deal.
Starting point is 00:08:59 She likes my voice, all this. And I went over to her house like three days later, met Seth. And we just listened through. 15 songs, villain being one of them. And I still give them hell of this day that they were, they were kind of like, let's keep in touch. Like, I don't think the songs are there yet, but let's keep in touch. And I was listening to that Matthew McConaughey book, Green Lights, while I was delivering groceries at the time. And I was like, you want to know what? This is not a red light. This is a yellow light. I've just got to post everything. And I have to really dive into this
Starting point is 00:09:27 TikTok thing. And we posted villain. And I think it got like 13 million views in like three videos in a week, which like no one had done that yet in country. And Rekiah Marshall was my first call. She was like, hey, you want to do a 50-50 master deal to meet with some record labels and get you a team together? It was like, absolutely. Hey, it's Amy Brown from Four Things with Amy Brown. And here's what we talked about this week on my podcast. You know, divorce is heartbreaking for any family, but it can be uniquely brutal for the family of a mega church pastor. And my guest, Brandy Wilson, is a on telling her story of healing and wants women to know that divorce is not the end of their story and they will be better than okay. Yeah, I think in doing that, I had three kids watching how I was
Starting point is 00:10:22 going to react or respond. And I did a week at OnSight, which is right outside of Nashville, Cumberland Furness. And one of the therapists there, Bill Loki, said, your child's resilience is directly impacted by the way the parent chooses to own. their story, understand their story, and communicate their story. So at that point, when I kept saying, like, I got to take care of my kids and myself, I realized that taking care of my kids meant taking care of myself first. So how could I own my story, what had happened to me, not deny it, not avoid it, like, own, this is what happened to me, understand it, unpack the patterns, the habits, the unhealthy habits that had gotten me there. And then how can I communicate what I'm learning about
Starting point is 00:11:06 myself and then even practice healthy communication in the other relationships that are in my life. So that kind of gave me a roadmap of how I wanted to be able to move forward. And it was a lot of trial and error. I have not always gotten it right. But that just allowed me to say, if I'm going to take care of my kids and myself, this is what it looks like to take care of myself first. So yeah, my kids have watched every step of the way as I've, you know, done lots of counseling and therapy and yoga. And we were talking about Ali Fallon earlier. They do a self-care workshop that I went this year.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I went the first time they did it. And it's amazing. And that was even part of my healing to realize that I could change the neurological pathways in my brain to not hear the negative talk that I had been experiencing for so long. So which directly impacted your self-worth. Directly impacted my self-worth. And what I thought I was capable.
Starting point is 00:12:02 of. And you're capable of so much. And that's what's beautiful to see is because I think that sometimes in certain relationships, depending on the dynamic, if it's not a healthy dynamic, then someone's stunted. Right. For sure. Someone's totally stunted. And honestly, I was very stunted because I was trying to function in an unhealthy dynamic. I'm a two on the enneagram, so I don't know. I'm just about to ask you your two number. Okay, so you're a helper. Yes, I'm a helper. So I'm really good at taking care. care of other people and I'm a great support system person and let me cheer you on and let me show up and help you out. And I think I'd spent so many years doing that that I'd lost who I was.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So honestly, one of the biggest parts of my divorce and moving forward was identity and figuring out who am I? What do I want my life to look like? What does it look like for me to think about dreaming again? And instead of just supporting other people who are chasing their dreams, began to chase some of my own. Well, it's almost like since your early 20s, you've not just been, you know, a wife, but you're a pastor's wife. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So that's a whole other identity in itself. It's living in a fish bowl, I mean. And, you know, just knowing sometimes how your life is and then having to walk through those double doors every Sunday. Yep. And being like, here we are. Yes. Stuff it all down.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Just to like simplify it. I had three sons in five years, so three boys. So by the time the third one was born, it's like I had one that could hold my hand or hold the stroller, one on my hip, and then the baby in the stroller. And my goal was to get to church on Sunday mornings without looking like I was crazy because everyone was going in all these different directions. So I remember just telling myself, if you can get there and get into child care and drop everyone off and still look like you're saying, then that's a win. Because everyone was watching. You knew as soon as I got out of the car and I had the three blonde-haired boys. And everyone knew that you were married to the pastor and they're watching to see how things
Starting point is 00:14:06 and lots of them are cheering you on. But at the same time, you're just aware you're being watched. And that's kind of an uncomfortable spot to be in. How did the boys feel about you writing a book? They were great about it. Honestly, they cheered me on, my oldest. He was one of the first people to read it. And he read every page and called me when he finished.
Starting point is 00:14:27 He actually, it was so funny, he called me Midway, and he was like, you've got some good stuff in this dating chapter that I'm going to start remembering. I'm like, great, not sure how I feel about that, but great. Then he called me at the end, and the last story I tell is actually an interaction between he and I that was really beautiful because I think behind women asking, am I going to be okay? The second question they ask is, will my kids be okay? and I can tell you that I never, ever wanted divorce to be part of my personal story, nor did I want it to be part of my kid's story.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I did not want it to be a journey that they had to walk. And there's a lot of stress in just trying to, and we can never get it perfect, but trying to do the best job that we can, raising our kids as we're grieving, as they're grieving, as we're figuring it out again. And super early on, I decided like I wanted to redefine family like nothing was missing. We were now a unit of four. My sons are currently 2219 and 17. And we were this unit of four that I referred to as us four.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But we were having to re-figure out how our family functioned. I chose to sell my house that I had lived in for 12 years, bought a new house for us, started creating new memories with the four of us, new traditions around the holidays. And just really focused. I don't even know that I said it out loud as much as I was just aware, as a mom, one of my goals was to redefine family like nothing was missing. And a couple of years ago, I was speaking at a conference out west. And my oldest son is in college at Birmingham.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And he had said, can I watch you your talk? I was like, sure. So I sent him the link so he could stream it. And in that talk, I actually revisit a moment when the four of us were at the beach together and we're sitting by a fire outside at the beach. And we just had this really wonderful week, just the four of us on vacation, like family vacation, us with one mom and, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:30 a single mom and three kids. And sitting by that fire and just realizing like, I did it. We did it. We redefined family and nothing is missing. We don't go on this trip and think like, oh, this would be better if we go on this trip and enjoy being together the four of us. So I'm retelling this.
Starting point is 00:16:49 story and I say like I didn't want divorce to be part of my story I didn't want to be part of my kid's story however at this point in my life I wouldn't change anything I love where we are I love who we are as a family and when I wrapped up that talk I went backstage to the green room and I picked up my phone and I had like seven text messages from my oldest son and and they were super sweet it was like I like the outfit you have on and that joke was funny and the audience they're loving you And then I got to the last two text messages. I have goosebumps every time I talk about it. But the last two text messages said, I couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And then the last one said, I wouldn't change our lives for anything. And I think just to know that my kids recognize that we went through a lot together. And we chose to allow that to bring us together rather than push us apart. And we're actually cemented together. you know, I would say initially, I keep my nest really tight because we had been through so much, I was super protective. And we've been able to expand our nest and let other people close to our family. And that feels good too.
Starting point is 00:17:59 So I think to have made it through what we went through as a family unit, man, I'm just super grateful that they recognize that it took a lot of work from all of us to be able to redefine family like nothing was missing. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends...
Starting point is 00:19:45 Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hip-hift. by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from stepbrothers anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network.
Starting point is 00:20:31 It's Will Ferrell. Woo. Woo. Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
Starting point is 00:21:10 It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Let's do it live.
Starting point is 00:21:37 We are the one, two, three, so losers. What up, everybody. I am Lunchbox. I know the most about sports. So I'll give you the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius. What up, y'all. It is Sisson.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I'm from the north. I'm an alpha male. I live on the west side of Nashville with Beezer, my wife. We do have a white picket fence at the apartment complex. Soon I'm going to have 2.5 kids. And yes, sadly, I will die of a heart attack when I'm 72 years old. Here's a clip for on the last podcast. Because golf is all about getting under the ball,
Starting point is 00:22:17 gracefully taking the ball with your club and throwing it in front of you. It's not too far, not too short. Just right. Jim Nance, CBS. And here's a great thing about Brian Harmon. That dude could go to Publix today and no one know who they're the hell he is. Dude, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:36 No one would know who he is. Like he could just wear a hat, a t-shirt and shorts, go to the damn publics, and not a dang person would bother him. And he just won the Open Championship. And those other guys, I'm not going to name the sites, but they dig up the crap about their wife. Next thing you know, his chick's pictures all over the internet. Oh, I didn't see that.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I'd never even seen what she looks like. And they go, who is Katie Mae Jane? Oh, great. Thanks for the bikini photo. I mean, just because the guy wins, all of a sudden, she, she's everywhere. I would assume that she was there. She's got suitors, right?
Starting point is 00:23:08 I was assumed she was there and they probably kissed on the green, but I didn't watch it, so I don't know. I quit watching the 14th. So usually the, you know, the wife comes out at the end and they kiss. So then she's thrust in the spotlight because, oh, here's Brian Harmon. Here's Brian Harmon's wife's wife. So I don't know. I don't really. That doesn't bother me as much.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah. If I'm winning one of those things, my wife, kids, family ain't there because I'm going to reverse jinx it. Ain't no way I'm bringing my family there. I'll be there just snapping one off by my. myself. But maybe the family comes to every tournament. Yeah. Maybe the wife comes and goes shopping or it gives you some normalcy so you're not just hold up in your hotel by yourself in your room and just like thinking about it. With your wife
Starting point is 00:23:48 there, you can take your mind off things. But maybe they have kids. I don't know if they have kids. What patience and what beautiful wives to go and watch their husband golf, would your wife ever come and watch you golf? No. Does your wife come and watch you golf? Oh, she's come before. Hey, would you hurry up? Hey, seriously though, let's get to the club. We got to go do happy hour. Coach, it's non. I'm like, sweetie, Bezor. The two things in golf you can't have is impatience and impatience.
Starting point is 00:24:14 It totally throws off my entire swing. Also, you know what you can't have in golf, honey? It's talking. Like golf is a quiet sport. You see when that guy's about to hit, you're not allowed to talk in his back swing. Hey, you know how you're watching TikTok on your phone? Not in my back swing. Dude, one of the bigger fights that we got into was on the golf course.
Starting point is 00:24:34 So we rarely go. Let me hear. It was her. It was kind of windy out, and she felt the storm was going to be there now, and I knew it wasn't coming for about 20 minutes. And so I'm trying to hit, and she goes, would you please hurry in my back swing with the hybrid? What do you think I did?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah, I shanked a potomist it 100 yards to the left. And I'm like, I literally, that's virtually it was a hard swing already, but with you talking with the wind, yeah, my ball's now on number seven. I mean, good God. Did you yell at her? No, so I was just like, what are you doing? Like, we paid to play this. You can't.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And she's like, it's a bad storm. And I'm like, the storm isn't here yet. We paid a significant money. Let me hit the shot. And then we're in a bad mood. And so then I go to do the next shot. And what do you know, I'd hit another bad one because I was being rushed. And then we go to the clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:25:27 We're in a bad mood. We didn't go out to dinner after that. All because wife was watching golf. Bless Brian Harmon and all the wives that do watch golf. I also find it interesting when I go. go to the driving range and I saw this other day, a dude's girlfriend sat on the bench and watched him
Starting point is 00:25:42 at the driving range. Plus her. Like, not, not, not reading a book, not on her phone, didn't have ear pods in like where she's listening to a podcast. So are losers. She literally was sitting on the bench watching this dude hit golf balls
Starting point is 00:25:58 at the driving range. See, and that's a dutiful wife, much like the wife that's a sports book that goes to the sports book with her guy. That's being a dutiful wife? Not dutiful. My question is, does she have nothing she can do besides sit there and watch him hit golf balls at the driving range? What does she get out of watching him hit golf balls at the driving range? She didn't hit any golf balls. She didn't get up and swing the club. She didn't have any entertainment. Is there any entertainment value in it for her to sit there and watch her dude hit golf balls
Starting point is 00:26:31 at the driving range. Spending time together, but five feet away is middle management guy that's 100 pounds overweight and his guts hanging out. She was the supervisor. Making sure, is this like, oh, maybe he cheated on me before when he said he was going to the driving range. So we're going to go make sure he's going to the driving range. So every time he says driving range, she has to go to make sure he goes to the driving
Starting point is 00:26:58 range. But then maybe he's giving her a swing every five. No, she never swung the club. See, then that's amazing. What a beautiful woman. But do you want, like, I don't think I would want my wife to say, I don't think I would go to my wife and be like, hey, honey, you know what? You're not doing anything right now. Would you like to go sitting on the bench in the 93 degree heat and watch me hit golf balls?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Oh, yeah, that sounds like fun. Then when my wife is sitting there just doing nothing, not on her phone, not listening to a podcast, not reading. a book, just staring at me hit golf balls, guess what I'm going to feel? Rushed. I'm going to feel the pressure to hurry up and get done with the driving range because my wife is having 0% fun, 0% enjoyment, 0% entertainment. She doesn't know what the hell is going on. She doesn't want to be there.
Starting point is 00:27:58 She is dripping sweat like in church on a Sunday. So I don't understand why a... Like I get maybe a little bit like your wife riding in the golf cart with you because you're actually spending time together. And we would sneak in a swing if there's not a marshal. Right. And she can drive the cart. She can have some fun. She can talk.
Starting point is 00:28:23 No, no, no, no, not drive the cart. That led to another fight. What did that lead to a fight? She'll never find... She never finds the ball. She doesn't know how to go towards it. And Dodd got in this with me too. Dodd agrees that it's very difficult to, because we're used to driving the cart and finding our ball.
Starting point is 00:28:38 With your wife driving, it throws off exactly how you would drive the cart to the ball, and it leads to losing at least 50% more balls. Dodd agrees with me on this one. I can also see how you're like, over there, over there, over there, over there. And it's like you have to be a backseat driver. You don't want to be a backseat driver. It's brutal. So you put her in the passenger seat.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yes. And then she's not having any fun. you're getting rushed. So I would like, and maybe I don't understand it. Maybe I don't get the point of the wife or girlfriend going to the golf course. If they're not going to play, I don't get the driving range. I can see riding in the golf cart maybe being fun, but I feel like it's more of like, okay, I'll do this.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Like, and it may be fun for a couple holes, but is it really fun? I mean, for 18 holes, which is about four hours? after about hour one, is she still enjoying herself? Or is it like, oh my God, I wish this guy would hurry up? And then you feel the pressure. Your golf game goes to crap. Then you're in a bad mood. And you're in a bad mood because you felt like she was rushing you.
Starting point is 00:29:47 She doesn't be – no, no, just take your time. And then you're mad because your golf scores bad. Then the day is ruined. And then it's like, why did I even play golf? Ani, did you meet Arnold Palmer? I had five Arnold Palmer's. He was in the clubhouse. Did you not see him at Butler Cabin?
Starting point is 00:30:03 Hey you guys, it's Caroline Hobby. I am so excited to introduce you to this clip with Moby, the one-word legend Moby. When your name is one word, you know you are like on a level all of your own. Moby is so passionate about animal rights. He has it tattooed on his arms. He's using his entire platform to help change the animal food industry and give animals more rights. It is so profound to hear what he has to say. And how he became a superstar accidentally. He never planned on being a superstar. His story is phenomenal, and he also has on the podcast with him. I talk with Lindsay Hicks, his partner in crime on his new podcast, The Moby Pod, which is so awesome. Lindsay produced the first movie about Moby. And then they realized they have so much in common that they need to talk
Starting point is 00:30:59 about all the time that they formed a podcast, the Moby Pod. So check it out. It is such a great interview. You will be enlightened. And it's just awesome to hear from the one and only Moby. I am so impressed with what you guys are doing because y'all are so, so, so deeply rooted in your calling to protect animals and the environment. And Moby, especially for being a superstar, it's like I've interviewed a lot of famous people and a lot of stars and people are so many wonderful people doing huge things of their platform and following their dreams. and their callings like you have, but you are one of those people who music is just like, I just feel like you are music. That is who you are.
Starting point is 00:31:51 That is your innate being. But it's like you say this too. Like your actual calling, you're so talented at music. You're a worldwide legend, but your true calling and heart is animal, saving animals and like being a voice for animals. And that's not always the case with superstars, you know?
Starting point is 00:32:08 And I feel like it puts you in a, whole different league and mindset. Well, it's funny because for a while, I really wanted to be as selfish as I possibly could. And what did that look like? What did that look like? Well, in the early 2000s, because I had never expected to have a career as a musician. I thought I was going to be a philosophy professor. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:34 And make music in my spare time that maybe someone would listen to. But for the most part, I thought I was going to be an obscure musician who never had any success. And then in the 90s into the 2000s, I started having surprising levels of success. Like you weren't trying to find it. You weren't trying to get it. It just happened. Yeah, just I never expected it for a second. And all of a sudden, you know, like my most successful album play, I recorded in my bedroom.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And, you know, the first show I did on the show. the tour for that album was to 30 people in the basement of a record store. And then it just kept selling and ended up selling 12 million copies, which is sort of unprecedented for a record that you make in your bedroom. Why do you think it resonated? What connected? The only thing I can think of is that it stood out from everything else because no one else was making records in their bedroom that way. Like it, everyone else, like, you know, whether it was the backstreet boys or Brittany or Eminem or Limp Biscuit, like everyone was spending millions of dollars going into huge studios. And I made a very sort of intimate lo-fi record in my bedroom.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And somehow I think that, that ethos, that approach made it just stand out to people. But then what happened to your question, I kind of, and I'm a little ashamed of this, but I actually learned a lot from it. I bought into that world of like going to red carpet events. And, you know, at one point having my own tour bus with an assistant who's pretty much only job was to throw parties for me. Like it was, I went fully down the selfish rabbit hole. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Why not try it when you had the access of it being available? You know, it's not like you were doing anything wrong to have that kind of lifestyle. It just was what was unfolding. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying. it if you're not harming yourself until you realize maybe you are. Yeah. And also I made the mistake that so many of us make is I thought that externalities could fix my issues. Right, right, right. You know, I thought that the love of 100,000 people in a stadium was going to, that was going to be the love that I needed, that good reviews in a magazine was the validation I needed that,
Starting point is 00:35:05 And not surprisingly, it didn't work. And I kept bottoming out and bottoming out, doing more drugs, drinking more. And in 2008, I finally got sober. And I was reading an interview with the Dalai Lama that annoyed me so much because he was talking. And I'm not a Buddhist. I'm not really, I'm just a, I don't know what my belief system is. but he talked about the importance of service. And I started hearing people in 12-step meetings saying the same thing,
Starting point is 00:35:39 like you have to be of service. And that idea irritated me so much because I didn't want to be of service. I wanted to be selfish. But if I looked at the evidence, I realized that my selfishness was paradoxically not making me happy. Wow. That's some deep thinking. That's some deep diving. But it was also just the evidence.
Starting point is 00:36:01 was so overwhelming. You know, like, I kept buying fancier things and I kept going to fancier places and hiring fancier people. And the more I spent, the more I partied, the more I tried to be selfish, the less happy I was. And I was like, oh, huh, I guess that doesn't work. Maybe it would work for someone else, but it didn't work for me. And so my, sorry for the long-winded answer, but the question fascinating. You know, if the selfishness, the materialism and the selfishness simply wasn't making me happy, what do I do? And I just thought, okay, let me try to be of service. Let me try to have values that are hopefully not selfish. And the irony, the paradox is by pursuing activism, by pursuing,
Starting point is 00:36:54 you know, animal rights activism, climate activism. That activism, makes me so much happier than degenerate selfishness ever did. I would love to hear your take on this, Lindsay, because you're so deeply rooted in, like, you're a producer and an actor, right? In a creative, you're, you produced his movie. Is that how you all met? Yeah, no, we've been friends for years. And a few years ago, I was working at a kind of big TV production company.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And during the pandemic, I was having this conversation with Moby of I want to do work where I feel like it matters in a bigger way, where it moves the needle toward a world where less people are hurting animals every day, where everyone is making decisions that make for a more sustainable planet. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
Starting point is 00:38:23 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.
Starting point is 00:38:44 So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ego Wode. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day. And I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:34 He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that.
Starting point is 00:40:59 There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Mike D from the Bobby Bone Show, and I have a podcast called Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. If you're like me and love movies, I would love it if you check it out. I give you spoiler-free movie reviews, movie history topics, and I keep you up to date on what's coming out in theaters and streaming. But right now, here are my thoughts on Barbie. This is one of my top 10 most anticipated movies of the summer. I think the reason is because it's from one of my favorite directors right now, Greta Gerwig.
Starting point is 00:41:41 And really, there are only a handful of directors that in their first. first few films know exactly what they want to say and how they want to say it and are perfectly able to execute all the elements when it comes to just filmmaking at its finest. And Greta Gerwig is one of them. So I just knew that this was going to be a movie that we weren't expecting. And that's exactly what it is because all I really knew going into this movie is that it's going to be about Barbie having an existential crisis, forcing her to leave Barbie world and go into the real world. And I am glad that is all I knew. Because somehow this movie was nothing. what I was expecting, but yet everything I wanted. And I want to start first with my theater
Starting point is 00:42:20 experience. The lobby was a sea of pink and you could feel the electricity. Even myself and my wife, Kelsey, we got all dressed up like I wore pink, this pink shirt I'm wearing now, I wore pink shoes, my wife wore her pink blazer. And I thought to myself as we were eating dinner before the movie, are we going to look like losers going to watch this movie because we get so excited that we wanted to dress up. But almost everybody in the theater was dressed in some form of pink. And that just made it feel like much more of an event and like a bonding experience, one that I haven't experienced in all of my years of going to movies, not in a Marvel movie, not in a DC movie, not in any legacy action movie. This was something truly unique. So I think aside from the movie, this is
Starting point is 00:43:04 going to be a moment that we remember in cinema forever. I'm always going to remember the day I went to see Barbie and this entire weekend, Barbie Oppenheimer weekend is something we needed in film. And Barbie is what we needed right now. So I was all in and invested in this movie. And from the very beginning, this movie just grabbed me in a way that I wasn't expecting. And very few times now, when I go watch a movie, do I get fully immersed in every aspect of it and allow myself to just lose myself in the movie going experience? This was one of them. What? And Once we were in Barbie world, I was fully transformed and living in that world, and I loved it. Because Greta Gerwig did such a great job nailing every single aspect from the fashion, the music, the set design.
Starting point is 00:43:52 This movie is going to win all the Oscars when it comes to set design and fashion. Like, that's just a given. I don't think that's me going out on a limb saying that. There's just so much attention to detail that is just mind-blowing to me. And I experienced something in this movie that doesn't really happen to me very often. because I didn't get all the references to all the Barbies. And I had to look over to my wife who was laughing at things that I didn't fully get because I didn't grow up playing with Barbies. But after watching this movie, I wish I would have.
Starting point is 00:44:20 So I think there were things in this movie that were so much geared towards true Barbie fans who played with him as a kid. I felt like when we went to go watch the Super Mario Brothers movie and I was laughing at some of the references to all these video games and looking over to my wife. And it wasn't really doing anything for her because she didn't grow up playing Super Mario like I didn't. The script was turned here. So aside from that of not getting some of the references, this movie was really funny. It's very smart comedy. And I feel like it takes a little bit of time to get used to it
Starting point is 00:44:52 and realize that the movie is in on the joke. And I think people just have different taste when it comes to comedy. You listening to this now are going to find something funny that I probably don't find funny. So I think it's so hard to make a comedy right now that you don't really go into comedies anymore and just laugh like crazy. That doesn't happen anymore. And I really think that only happens when you're a teenager or a kid. So I think adults who have expectations of going to a movie and just laughing nonstop,
Starting point is 00:45:24 like that's not going to happen. You have to go see some stand-up comedy for that. What comedies have to do now is have a unique perspective and be so good at the writing and have actors who can deliver it effortlessly. And you almost have to be. be in on it a little bit. So this is a meta-comedy. It's very aware of itself. So for those reasons, once you allow yourself to get into the style of it, you have to fully immerse yourself and want to be a part of it for it to be funny to you. But in our theater, people were laughing nonstop. And I think that also
Starting point is 00:45:57 helped for me to find it more funny because when you go see a comedy like this and experience it with other people and hear what other people are laughing at, sometimes it heightens it a little bit. So If you wage to watch this movie streaming, you may think, what exactly is this? What did people see in this movie? You got to experience it with people. I think that is the same with comedies and also with horror movies. Sometimes you can watch a good horror movie at home and still be scared. But there's something about going to see a comedy and a horror movie in theaters that just adds to the experience
Starting point is 00:46:28 and makes maybe things that aren't as funny, a little bit more funny, makes things that are actually funny, hilarious. So same thing with horror, same thing with comedy. Go watch it in the theater. and get the full experience. And I think the reason this movie was so important for me to see as a guy is it was a great commentary on what women have to go through and face every single day. The different things that apply to women, that don't apply to men, that things men are able to get away with, that women aren't,
Starting point is 00:46:56 and all of the battles and things that women have to go through. There's such a great monologue from America Ferreira in this, one of the best monologues. In the last 10 years, I would say, You don't really get monologues in movies anymore, but this one was so impactful that every single line in her monologue hit. It all made a really great statement. So again, the writing in this was just excellent.
Starting point is 00:47:20 So I think that scene alone needs to win an award. There is a line in this movie I related with so much. Barbie just saying, You guys ever think about death? Which just comes out of nowhere because she is such a bright and positive person, but yet she's struggling with the idea of death. And us as humans, I feel like sometimes we might. mask those things we are actually feeling. It's easier to just smile and fake it until you make it,
Starting point is 00:47:43 but deep down inside, you could be feeling like the worst. And when she said that line and how everybody reacted, it's sometimes how I feel. Like sometimes I just have those dark thoughts that you don't know what is going on. And it's so easy to just kind of fake a smile and, you know, move on with your life. And that ends up being what forces Barbie to leave Barbie land and go figure out why this is happening to her. So like I said, I was fully immersed in the Barbie world. And by the end of the movie, I didn't want to leave it. So not only did it meet every single one of my expectations, but it set the bar for movies for the rest of the year for me. I'm not going to soon forget this movie. So for Barbie, I give it a rare perfect score. It is five out of five Barbie Dreamhouses.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Thank you guys for listening. Hopefully they gave you enough of a taste to go, hey, I think I might like that podcast. And then maybe you go subscribe to it. Maybe you go listen to it for the first time. There's a new episode of the Bobbycast every Tuesday. Four Things comes out every Thursday. The sore losers have three new episodes a week.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Movie Mike's Movie Podcast and Get Real with Caroline Hobby. Both come out on Mondays. So every day there's something for you. So thank you for listening. And I hope you have a great week. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific on artist. They take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target.
Starting point is 00:49:12 He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor, the fourth. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my
Starting point is 00:49:47 brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:50:31 If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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