The Bobby Bones Show - The Time Luke Bryan Got Bobby’s Dog on ESPN + QB Coaching Guru Jordan Palmer

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

Bobby told a story about the time Luke Bryan brought Tim Tebow’s Heisman Trophy over to his house and had his dog, Stanley, lick peanut butter off of it during a rivalry game and the video made ESPN. Plus, QB training guru Jordan Palmer joined Bobby to talk about training Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow and Josh Allen, what he looks for in a QB to be successful, and more!  Thread Performance Website   Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.     Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Limited time offer. See terms at pick6.draftings.com slash promos. All right. Blow the whistle. Yes, sir. We hit our parlay. Sucka. Yeah.

Yeah. That's all we to do is it's NFL games. Yeah, that's it. That easy. Yeah. I did. And again,

I will say when we suck and we lose and we, that's mostly every show. We did hit. And I did say my one bet that I felt absolutely 100% about

was the chiefs minus four at the Browns. And then I started second guessing myself. I'm not going to like because everybody was like, don't bet that one. They're getting to lose.

And then once again, it was over again. It was like 21-0-0. Never felt more than less than more sure of myself within a five-minute period. So yeah, what up? I have so many notes, so many things I want to talk about. Number one, we watched the Heisman ceremony. Did you cry? No. Oh, I cried a little bit. I really did.

I've never cried watching that thing. I did not cry. I did not cry. I think it's when, I mean, I felt emotional, but I guess I didn't, I don't know. Well, I felt weird. I didn't know. No, no, no. He talked about, you know, his dad not being there and I just lost my dad. I know you don't have a good dad. You know what I thought about Johnny. Johnny. Mansell? Mm-mm. And you're right. I don't have a dad, and that would have resonated. I thought about Johnny from Singh. Johnny the guerrilla. Dude, he's made a huge impact in your life recently. Because Johnny the gorilla from Singh, he's playing as dad's in jail watching him from jail.

Yeah. And he ends up breaking out date, you know, and Singh's a cartoon that I watch because my nephew's like two and it's on all the time. Oh, okay. It's a great cartoon. I didn't know what Singh was. Yeah, trust me, dude, I didn't either. Yeah. But Johnny's a gorilla. And you know why I didn't cry? I was thinking of like Johnny. You thought that was his situation?

Well, no, but like his dad's, you know, because he gets up and he's talking to his dad. That's what I don't know, I just felt like that was things. Yeah, it was crazy, man. I just was like, oh, that's cool, Travis Hunter. And then I was like, yeah. Did you see the video that came out of his dad watching? No. I saw it today.

So where was his dad? In jail. Okay. That's why Johnny, when Johnny's playing piano, his dad's watching from jail. Yeah. Oh, I can't watch it now. You don't, but you do. Sing.

I'm sure I will eventually. And Dion says that, like, Travis Hunter's like, don't drink, don't smoke. Like, like, dialed in. So you love that for somebody who does that. I didn't know he was engaged, too. And they asked him, because they were trying to get a, what do you want to play in the NFL? They asked him the question after he had won. In your dreams, are you playing?

wide receiver or are you playing cornerback? And he's like in my dreams, man, I'm just fishing. I love that. That's so cool. Like I just feel like that dude's real. Like he's just a real dude. So, and I mentioned maybe off, off mic, off camera to some of you guys. Hey Kevin,

the Heisman pose. Yeah. Can you take your headphones off and can you show us the Heisman pose in the middle here? Yeah. Okay. Okay. For everybody? Yeah. We all want to see it. Yeah.

So do the Heisman pose, go ahead. Go on the stage, go on the stage, please. So go on the stage, so go ahead and hit it. Ready? Yep. Yes. Thank you. You're right.

No further questions. Wow. So that is not, that's not right. And so. It's not right. And again, huh? Says who. The trophy.

Look at the, now Google the trophy. Oh. Are you going to ruin my childhood right now? No, we all did it. Yeah, I brought this up to them. I think we're working out. Yeah. And I had only learned it somewhat recently.

So why the knee comes up when people do it is because Charles Woodson did that when he was like doing it. But the real thing, the guy doesn't lift his knee up. He's on the ground on top of the trophy. It's like just a stride. It's a long stride. But since Charles Woodson brings his knee up, everybody thinks that's on the trophy and it's really not. But there you go. I thought the same thing.

I was like, huh. Interesting. We all did it, dude. We all did it. Yeah, don't feel stupid. I mean, you looked stupid. But we all, we all, you did look good. You did look good.

It doesn't feel real. though, it doesn't feel natural to do the actual pose because the stretch is so off. Yeah. It's like so unnatural. So I encourage everybody to go Google the Heisman Trophy and you'll see what the actual Heisman pose is, which is not that knee up in the air. The arm is out. I've actually held a Heisman trophy before. Is it heavy? Debo's. Really? Luke Bryan brought over to my house. And I had it at my house for like a day. What was Luke Brian doing with it?

So Luke Brian. Good question. Good question. Luke Brian pays. So Tebow auctions his off every six months to sit someone's house. Oh, cool. He's been able to raise like a couple million bucks for stuff. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. And so Luke Brian at a charity event where Tebow was paid for it. And so Luke's like, hey, he called me.

Hey, can I come over? Without any sort of. You're like, why? Yeah, why? Sure. I got Tebow's Hizman and Georgia and Florida are playing this week. And I want to do a bit with your bulldog. And I said, all right, when?

I don't have to be there. Like, Luke can come over and do whatever with Stanley. I don't care. And he's like, are you home at like two? And I was like, yeah, he goes, all right. So Luke drives up in a big black truck and gets the Hizman out and has a jar of peanut butter with him. Oh, gosh. And so Georgia, Luke is a bulldog.

And the gators and bulldogs are playing. So what he did is he put peanut butter on the trophy and had Stanley. the Bulldog, like licking Tebow's trophy. I made a video and he's like, hey, damn, the Bulldogs are licking on your trophy. And so... You have to be somebody to do something like that. It was like at the house for a day. And then Stanley made like ESPN because then they picked up the video story of it.

Stanley's licking the trophy on ESPN. By the way, Stanley's a dog, everybody. Bulldog. Yeah. That trophy's really heavy. It is heavy. Yeah. It's awesome.

Yeah. So... It's Travis Hunter. was holding that like it's not heavy at all. Just kind of waving it around, but I guess that's how strong he is. People were asking me who I was going to, I don't have a vote. People think I have a vote. Really?

Yeah, I don't have a vote. But they were like, hey, who did you vote for? And I didn't tell him to have a vote. I was just like, drop sonner. Because that's who I would have voted for. And it's not that I don't think Jenny's awesome. He didn't play anybody. He played Oregon.

Like, if you're going to win the Heisman. It was Boise State. Yeah, you need to play in a P4 for the most part. It's like Graham Harold didn't win it. Like there are these guys that, like, you play at Hawaii, you're probably not going to win the Heisman. Because your competition's not. Unless you're playing big boys, you shouldn't be given the big boy trophy.

I thought it was super close. And he's dominant, and he'll probably dominate next level. But I went back just for fun and looked at Boys' State schedule. Dear God. Really? They had a few tough games, yes. But they were sisters of the poor, man. Like three deaf schools.

So you shouldn't win the Heisman. Not saying he's not a better athlete, worse athlete, not a better running back or one of the rich runbacks of all time. You can't win the Heisman whenever you're not playing other guys that have a possibility to play in the NFL for the most part, which is what Travis Hunter was doing. He's playing other P4 schools.

And playing both sides of the ball. I was going to say it's such a unique thing too. And people would be like, well, he wins because he's playing all the snaps. Well, that's stupid. One of the interesting things about Travis Hunter and all the snaps he plays at times when he doesn't have stats on defense is because they will not throw at him.

Right. Do you know why they don't throw at him at all? They're scared of him. Yes. And he still had interceptions and tackles. I thought he should have won. It was very close. Good for Jenny.

I thought it was awesome. Yeah, cool. I was happy with it all. Dylan Gabriel? Did he get third? He got third? Third, yeah. Yes.

Gadabo got fifth, right? Cam Ward got four. Scott. Yeah. Scada bow got fifth. Yeah. And I think the guy from Army. Oh.

That's a guy from Army? Or part of the running? Or UCA. I don't know. The logo was really small. You may look at like seventh. Ville Vision's not that good anyway. It was somebody with the logo that color.

The UCF Army color. The gold. Yeah. But again, if you look at top 10. And then I remember Eddie said Army should be in the playoffs. Yeah, Army. Yeah, that was wrong about that. What's up?

I was wrong about that. It's really a good thing. Army didn't go to the playoffs because it would have been mad. Who was it? It was Army. Bryson Daly. There you go. Yeah, he was six. Yeah. Wow. So, cool. It's over. Heisman's over.

I'm pretty happy with it. Don't only care. Did you bet on the Heisman winner? I did not. I did not bet on the Heisman winner. I did. And I showed you guys yesterday. I put a substantial amount of money out what I thought was the easiest money in years, which was the Chiefs. And I didn't even bet to spread. I went straight money line. Yeah, good job.

Because I was like, they're not losing to the money. Browns and they didn't lose to the Browns, although I started a second guess of them though. But then when the Titans go up 7-0 on the Bengals, I'm like, there's no way the Titans can keep up with this. Like, Bengals' defense sucks, yes. But there's no way the Titans can keep up. And so that money that I lost on BAM, I just put $2,500 on Cincinnati to win the

game once they were down 7-0, which gave me a bit of better odds. I hit that, was feeling pretty good about it. So I made $3,400, $400, $1,400 yesterday. So I'm back on the positives for the month. And now Draft Kings has, which Eddie didn't know. My many of you guys didn't know. I didn't know. I had no clue to do to change my world.

You can now look and see where you are for the month or for the year. Or for all time, which is the one that, like, to me, like, this is crazy. Just to think, I mean, I've been on Draft King since the beginning. So just to think how much I've won and how much I've put back and how much I've kept. All those stats are really cool to look at. I wish I could get back into my account to see that. Call him, dude. I know.

Wait, call him and do what? Open it back up? Open it back up. Can you read my stats and then lock them back up? Oh my gosh. Oh, he has them read them to them? That's funny. Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing until you sent it over.

After yesterday's winning, because I lost all that money at Bama. I spent $2,500 and they didn't even make the playoffs. On the future? Hit it back yesterday and now I'm up on this month, about $2,000. When I, when you sent it. When you sent that text, I thought that you had created a little graph, and I'm like, gosh, Roones are really into this better thing. I know. He created his own graph.

That's funny. I didn't do that, though, but I wish I would have been funny or dang it. Did you guys see the Cal manager tackle the guy that stole the helmet? What I'd like for you to do, Casey, while I talk about this, if you'll pull up, it'll be on TikTok. So. Cal is a cow of the football team. They're all on the field after the game, and a fan tries to steal a helmet.

and the Cal manager sees the fan still the helmet. And there's a video of the whole football team watching it back in the film room. Yeah. And whenever you find it, Casey, let me know. I think I got it. I'm just making sure this is like three weeks ago, right? Yeah, because I'll reset it up again for the old clipy.

But if he's the manager, he's the hero, he's a hero on that squad now because the dude's got it. Let me know when you get it. I want to see this. I want to talk about the portal. Oh, you have it? Yeah. Okay.

Oh. So I think it's in like the football playroom, in like the meeting room. They have it up on the big screen, and all the players are watching it like they're watching game film. It's after the game. The players are all on the field. And a fan tries to steal a helmet from the Cal sideline. The manager sees him still a helmet, chases them through the crowd and just rips them, like drops them. Watch that, Eddie.

Did you see that? No, no, started it. He's been waiting for that moment. He's the guy running. He's taking it. Look at this. Oh! That's a wrestling move.

Powerbombed it. It's dropped out. And they're breaking down the film underneath that. Give a scholarship. So cool. Give me a scholarship. For real. That team was so hyped, too.

Because you know they all know the guy. He's ain't messing around. Henry did that. Another note I had to bring up is why does the WMBA hate Caitlin Clark? It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. So she gets named like Time Magazine Athlete of the Year. That's what it was.

Deservedly so. Absolutely. She's more famous. than 98% of NBA players. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Other than LeBron, KD, Steph, I'm just right straight fame. Sure.

Like, she's more famous than all but three, four, five NBA players. She's one of the most five famous basketball players in the world. And so they named her, like, Time Magazine, athlete of the year. So they had the owner of the Mystics on, and she was going,

I don't know why they couldn't just put the whole WMBA on the cover. We're all athlete to the day. the year. Oh, good Lord. And someone like did the, you know, on Twitter when they do the community notes, whenever they correct somebody under the Mystic Owners video. And they were like, Kayla Clark's two games versus the Mystics was almost 40% of their entire ticket purchasing the whole year. Wow. Wow. They're just such haters. I don't understand that. I think it doesn't make sense because to us, because the logical thing is there's a superstar. it's going to lift the whole league.

But when jealousy comes into play, which is what's happening, it feels a bit different. But like, I think about in football terms, you know, a defensive end, whoever might be sets, or a quarterback, for sure, sets the market again getting paid. And then they're always like, well, yeah, that's great, because that means we're going to get paid, you know? I think far more players in football.

You're talking about 22 on a side and 32 teams. And WMBA, what are there, like, 8 teams, 12 teams, whatever it is, five players each team and then here is this white girl from Iowa and everything about her is different and she has a skill set that no one else or if they have they didn't get famous for it before

and then I think it's just rampant jealousy and how long has the WNBA been around? Probably 90s, huh? Got started? If I'm guessing 98. If I'm guessing yeah I'd guess 90s. I mean I'm thinking that's probably... They lose money they've never made money. Right. Ever.

And the reason they're going to start flying private jets to games and not having to fly is because of Caitlin Clark. You're very close, Kev, 96. Even older. So why they just cannot embrace that we even are, dude, we would never have talked about the WMBF was if Caitlin Clark. Correct. That's so true. It's crazy. No, yeah.

So they're all haters. They're still all haters. Caitlin Clark forever. Side note, if I would have bought you a Caitlin Clark hoodie, would you have? Absolutely. Okay. I thought about for Christmas, but I didn't get that. Absolutely.

Got you something else. Great. I saw it and I'm like, gosh, do I? He's like, Angel Reese. I got to Angel instead. One other note I made, I'm just rolling through my notes before we get over to a really good interview. All the portal chaos is happening now. Teams losing all the players, losing some of the players, players in and out.

And everyone's getting mad. Like, oh, it ain't how it used to be. And agree. And is it super annoying? Yes. doesn't suck, yes. But you want universal you. You want the most chaos as absolutely possible

if you want there to actually be some change and some fixes. Because if it stays just kind of messy, nothing's ever going to be changed. You want it to be so broken that someone has to step in and put regulations in. Someone like, it's only one year and they're out and no team. Great. Go crazy. I want it to be such a disaster

that somebody has to step in. Otherwise, it's just always going to stay somewhat disastrous and annoying. Like, I want it to get so much worse. I want players like the Vegas guy, quarterback who goes mid-year, I can get paid them out. I want that happening all the time. Because the more that happens, the more someone's finally going to have to go that needs to be fixed. Because it will not be fixed until it gets extremely broken. And that is exactly what's happening now. Let it go. Let it go. You need it to be messed up. You want it to be so messy and people be in and out

and people poaching players and paying players and you want all of it because that's the only way it's going to get fixed if it is so messed up that NCAA limited power

but they can still say a few things lawmakers universities people are going to have to come back in and define what the structure is because right now there is none but it's got to get

full Wild West first so who Who cares? Teams pulling out of bowl games. They don't have enough players. Marshall, yeah. Marshall. Yeah. So, good. I hope it gets ugly. Wise man once said, you, G, L-Y, you ain't got no alibi. Oh. You ugly. Yeah, you, you, you ugly. I've heard that. That's some deep stuff. But it does suck and it is annoying. And I also understand if you're a player, this is the

most money you might ever make your whole life. So of course it's a free market. You put yourself on the market every year. I would. If I were a good quarterback, unless I was making a great check and I'd be like, let me just see what I'm worth it. It's free agent. You could be a free agent every year. I saw that South Carolina DN, the headline, I can't remember his name, but he's an unbelievable stud, true freshman. He re-signed on South Carolina for 1.5. I'm like, wait, what? New deal. That just looks crazy, but it's just, to your point, it's the new era. And every team's going to have about 20 million bucks next year or so. And the profit sharing. You know, call the car. So we need it to be really broken if we want it to kind of be fixed again.

Otherwise, nobody's going to invest time in fixing it. What I was watching the, I think it was a Colorado State Coach. He was talking about how there will be these agents and there's not, they're not even real agents. There's no, there is no NFLPA, right? There's no union. So there are no rules. So you don't have to be an agent. And he was talking about people that aren't even agents.

I'll just say it's me. I'll use me as an example. Let's say Reid's playing for Arkansas State. Let's go, baby. And I don't even know. And I just call a school. Let's say I call University of Arkansas. I'm going to, hey, I got Reed here. He's a defensive end.

If I could get him into the portal, how much would you give him? I haven't even told Reed I'm doing this. But I'm calling and they're like $50,000. I send Reed a message. Hey, Reed, Arkansas, I give $50,000 bucks if you get in the portal. And he's like, what? Really? Reed had to make no calls, didn't know someone was making a call,

but these agents are making calls trying to chum up their percentages. Wow. And not only that, like, real agents in professional sports make 2 to 3 percent, because you're dealing big contracts. These agents, because, again, there are no rules and no regulations. They're making 12, 15, 20 percent. That's big money. So it's got to get totally effed up before it ever gets back to normal.

And so let it go. And then in 20 years, a bunch of legal stuff. Yeah. I mean, that's pendulum swing. constantly. But like, you know, you look at Heisman, like, Dylan Gabriel, I don't think probably wouldn't have been a Heisman contender if you would have stayed in Oklahoma? UCF and then Oklahoma?

Yeah. I mean, you know, so like some of that, it's crazy how, like, it's changed the trajectory of a lot of these players. Well, I think the portal and NIL and are all separately, they all can be extremely positive things. It's kind of the Alkamp. me of the comp, boom, and that is where the trouble is. Yeah, Bo Nix would have never had a shot. Bo Nix? Yeah, I think there are a lot of times where a player needs a different scenario or different

coaching staff or has made some mistakes and needs to get out from underneath. Sure, no problem with it. But what are the rules? Because there are no rules. So, you know, you sign an IL, there should be some kind of contract. There should be some kind of union. There should be a couple of years. You shouldn't be able to leave every year. Right now, I'll leave, heck, you should leave every quarter right now. There should be no rules. If you didn't get to play that quarter, you're out of here. Yes. But eventually there will, it will be

more than one year. There will be rules to this, but there will not be until it's so out of hand. So, there you go. That's my take on that. Thank you very much. We hear a parley. Should we celebrate? I mean, we should celebrate. I mean, we should celebrate. I got champagne. Pop it. It's right under you.

Chief Minus Fort Brown's win. Bengals minus five of Titans win. Packers minus three, Seahawks, win. Nice job, everybody. Draft Kings. We weren't up on the app, but I preferred that. There's less pressure. Everybody who roll with us. Right, that's when we win when we're not, have no spotlight on us. Roll, babe. I'm so excited about this weekend's games, though. Like the college football games? Yes, final.

Yeah, it's going to be. No, I mean, CFP. Yeah, that's true. Full season, everyone started that garbage. Did you enjoy the week off, or were you kind of like itching? been so sick. Oh, so you kind of needed that break. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't really playing 100%, so coach let me out. That's not what I meant, but I'm good.

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Who said that for the first I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Poll Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, now we're going to get over and talk with the former NFL quarterback, and he's now known as one of the best quarterback coaches in the nation, Jordan Palmer. Jordan has worked and trained and tutored players like Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Sam Darnold. He has a nutrition company. He just started called Thread Performance.

I need to get on that for myself, although it looks like it's for kids. It's for kids, yeah, but I feel like for me. to be pretty good. Check it out threadperformance.com. Big thanks to Jordan for coming on. Also, Carson Palmer's younger brother. They played on this team the same time. Yeah.

Mangles? Yeah. Carson was starter, Jordan was backup. So cool. Here he is, Jordan Palmer. Hey, Jordan,

before I get to anything else because I was just watching Josh Allen. I know Josh Allen, like, that's one of the guys, right? Like, watching his... The DN, Josh Allen for the Jaguars or the quarterback? I'm assuming the quarterback's,

that you're the quarterback guy, right? Okay. I didn't know the same page. And Josh Allen for the Jags now is a new name. It's like he had to add like a middle name so you didn't get him confused. I would too. Talk about Josh Allen like your guy because it has been the maturation of him going the guy that just throws hard to the guy now that's running three and throwing three in the same game and is making equally as good of decisions. Like what has it been like and why has he been able to mature so quickly?

Well, I think he was kind of born to do this and the way that God designed him. This is, it was funny. It was during the draft process when he was out here and I was doing interviews. And at this point, it sounds funny now. But at this point in his career, I was trying to like lobby for him. Like I'd go in the media, I'd go on the herd. And I'd be like, in fact, I went on the herd and Colin wanted to talk about Sam Darnold.

And he didn't know I was turning Josh. And he goes, well, obviously Josh Allen kids, the Wyoming kid's going to be a bus. but let's talk about Sam Darn. I go, hold on. I work with him, too. Let me just try and sell you on him real quick, right? And so that was kind of like that phase when all the conversations with Josh

during the draft process were trying to convince people, not convince people, but just representing his behalf in the media. You know, my own words, not his, but how good he is going to be and all this. And I did a Sports Illustrated interview, and I said, Josh is the best athlete, pound for pound,

to play the quarterback positioned. And I doubled down it after his rookie year when he didn't have a great rookie year. And I got smoked in the comment section. They put it on Instagram. They put it on Twitter and stuff like that. And I got a blast just reading the comments. And I got smoked.

And my point was this is like the way, I don't care about his 40s, the way he runs. Because some guys run fast 40s, but they're not great runners. And some guys don't run fast 40s, but they're great runners. And that's a different skill than timing your side.

to run from zero to 40 yards very quickly, right? And I go, he's like, at the time he's like 255. He's got maybe the best arm I've seen, which is a strong statement because I've basically seen everybody. And, but he's an elite dynamic runner. He's been one of the best runners in the league, like ball carriers, like biggest threat when you're in the open field with them. And I made that point.

And you look at the Vicks and these other guys, Lamar, and it's like, and these guys who've been great runners. And I'm not saying he's as fast as those guys, but I'm like, he's got 50 pounds on them. It's not even the same thing. And so I think that was always there. And then you go back early with Josh Allen. He grew up on a farm.

You know, he's got three siblings. His dad is his idol and super hardworking. So when you grow up on a farm, I used to make this comment all the time. Like, and the pipe breaks, right? Your dad does not call the plumber. When my pipe broke at my house, my dad called the plumber, right? I wouldn't even there for it. When you grew up on a farm and the pipe breaks, your dad wakes up at 4 a.m.

And he goes, wake up, boys. I'll teach you guys how to fix this pipe. And then the next time it breaks, the dad wakes you up and goes, go fix it. And so you become a problem solver. And you have to carry heavy things all the time. And you get up early and you go to bed late. And so I think like all the things, like the physical attributes and then the toughness and the work ethic and all of that stuff. But I think the biggest thing that Buffalo fans know this now.

And I don't, and I think maybe the national media is starting to see this is as unique as his physical skill set is. and I'll argue always has been. But as unique as his physical skill set is, his personality is equally as unique. And I don't mean unique like he's different. I mean like unique like he might be the coolest guy I've met. Like the nicest friend, the kindest, the like the most selfless, the funniest, the sharp.

So like it's not just like we get so enamored by the highlights and it's easy for your eye to go there. But I think Buffalo realizes, you know, the fan base now, the teammates from day one, like how cool he is. is and that's relevant to me. It doesn't show up in the draft process, but it's relevant to me.

And then the last piece is he's had multiple coordinators. And right now he's got a coordinator in Joe Brady. Joe Brady worked with Sam Darnold in Carolina, who I've worked with and worked with Joe Burrow in college, who I work with. And it's like, and Josh is as smart as any of these guys to come in here and enter into that room.

And so to have the context and these different coaches go, that dude's one of the sharpest dudes I've been around. So it's all three. It's the physical, the mental, and the emotional. You talk about certain things growing up in skills that he like Josh had, like working at the farm. And I'm not sure if you work with Drake May at all or not. But I'm curious as to certain quarterbacks are wired certain ways where Drake May, his family, like he's got to prove himself within his family, much less, you know, just be the guy that makes it in the NFL.

But if you're like the youngest kid, or a lot of those home factors, do they end up kind of manifesting themselves on the field? and it does separate some of those guys by based in what scenario they lived in growing up? 100%. So I'm a father of four. I have three boys, nine, six, and two. And then I have a baby girl. She's four months old. I see it right now this morning.

My kids play these things called blockerroos. They're little magnet things that you build and you assemble and all that stuff. And my six-year-old was building the zip line for his action figures. And then my two-year-old comes in and smacks it down. And he shoves him on the ground. and you can't push him and then he pops back up. And my two-year-old gets up off the ground,

like ready to square up and fight the six-year-old. And like, I'm kidding, but I'm not. Like, that's totally part of it. It's different that like my two-year-old's going to grow up with his older brothers pushing him back and not letting him go.

And if they wants to go ride scooters, he's going to have to go fast and catch up. They aren't going to wait for him. Like I totally think that that's relevant. And think about it, that's going to be his education. Like, that's how he's like getting into this world. That's all he's going to know.

And so Drake may have been around him quite a bit. And, you know, when you're playing basketball and you're against your brother, who's one, older and two, like a D1 great basketball player, like he's not going to let you get rebounds. Like you're going to have to box them out. And so the accumulation of those reps of fighting for yourself and sitting up for yourself and getting back up and competing and games to 11 and you lose 11.0 until you can lose 111 and then 112. And then at some point, hopefully it's 10-10, got to win by two. And so I think like the evolution of a kid growing up with that, I'll argue that's far more valuable for their development than whatever they're going to learn at school. When you're working with a quarterback, and let's use two different kinds of examples,

like a Bo Necks who went through a lot at Auburn. Obviously, like his dad was like the guy at Auburn. So he goes to Auburn and they kind of ran him out. And so then he goes to Oregon and succeeds. So he went through a lot of adversity. and he played a lot of quarterback. Same thing went like a Michael Panics Jr., right? Like Got Hurt, Indiana, Washington.

So all this happens with those two kind of guys. However, and then you take a guy like an Anthony Richardson who does not play a lot of snaps at quarterback, crazy athlete, but doesn't have a lot of experience at playing games in college. Will you treat them differently while training them because of the education that they have through college and through adversity?

Well, it starts with the evaluation process for me And not that I'm going to make somebody stand outside of my building and I'm going to evaluate them before I let them come in. But I want to be right, the guys I train, right? You start up the interview, you asked me about Josh Allen, somebody I was right on, right? So, like, I want to be right. And I want what's best for these guys. And I want them to reach their potential. But there's a couple things where if a guy has anything on this list of things that I can't help you with, then I don't know how good that guy is going to be.

one of the things that I look for is context for adversity. Now, I'm not manufactured adversity because if you grew up with a silver spoon in your mouth and everything was easy, like I can't fault you for that, right? That was your parents. They did that, right? My brother and I grew up wealthy Orange County kids in Southern California. Like, it's not a knock on me. That's how I grew up.

But when I see an athlete who's been through adversity and there are a lot of different levels to adversity, and I look at how they've handled it. That becomes, it becomes like a process, and there's a pattern that exists there. And so let me show you this. This is my logo. Okay, QB Summit is my business. So this is a mountain range, right?

This is your career. It's up, it's down, it's up, it's down. Like I haven't seen this career. I don't know if it's doing this right, going to the top right corner, right? It might be backwards. Okay. I don't know.

I haven't seen that career, right? Where, like, they started off, and then they, like, were the best eighth grade quarterback ever, and they went to high school and they won the championships, and they got millions of dollars in NIL, and then they got the gatorade thing, and they go to college, and then they were like, even Trevor Lawrence, where his Adidas campaign was number one since day one, and I met him in eighth grade, so, like, he was literally number one. Dude, that guy went through a lot of stuff. A lot of pressure of being the number one recruit in the country is a sophomore in high school.

When you're 15, you don't know anything. And so I look for guys who've been through adversity to see what their context is for adversity. And so one of the things that I love about Bo Nix's story, and I would say Michael Pinnix as well, I've spent a lot of time with Bo is Bo was the kid who this happened, right? He was like the best middle school kid. And then he was on Cam Newton's flag football or seven-on-seven team in high school, which basically, like his receivers were like George Pickens and like, you know, a bunch of the other top recruits in the country. And he was like the number one recruit in the country. I coached him at the elite 11. I was the office coordinator on his team. And we lost in

the championship and Spencer Raller was the MVP and Bo Nix was runner up. Like he was always number one. And he went to Auburn and he played for an offense that I don't think you can succeed in in Gus Malzahn's offense. I think it was really hard to find success. I didn't like the concepts. And I don't know about the talent around him because I don't know how to score it. But like he was just put in this situation where I don't know how you can be successful.

And so they kind of ran him out of there to your point, right? Like they boot him and he's a bust and he's this. And I did another interview. And they said, what is Bo Nix's ceiling? And I said, I don't care what's been happening with Bo Nix. I know how he works. I know how he plays. I know how he treats his teammates.

I know how he goes about his position. Like his context is like top 10 pick. And I got smoked in the comment section. This time this guy was transferring. My bad, I was off one pick. We went 11th or whatever, right? Because my point is like, put him in a good situation and this guy will thrive. And I think he's going to be offensive rookie of the year.

And so when you look at, when I look at a player, And if I was a college coach and an NFL evaluator looking at it, one of the first things I need to figure out is what is your context for adversity? Because look at Trevor Lawrence, right? That whole crazy career of everything going awesome. Yeah. And then he had like one of the hardest rookie seasons I've ever seen a quarterback half. And he's a decline of mine.

Like that was a really difficult rookie year. And so you better have some context for it because I don't want to make you my starting quarterback. And then when adversity hits, it's the first time you've ever experienced it. Sam Darnold is an example of professional adversity. It gets drafted to Jets, plays for the Panthers. We've now seen those are two places that quarterbacks go to die for the most part. Gets to go be with 49ers and now he's killing it with Minnesota. Is that a guy that had been through it or did he have to develop this callus once he got pro?

I think a lot of it is the way that Sam's raised, very, very hardworking parents. and he grew up in Southern California, so I think people think that he's a surfer and was rich, and that's not the case. But very blue-collar, very humble, and I met him when he was 14. And so he goes to SC, and they weren't really developing quarterbacks there at that point,

in my opinion. He just kind of ran around and made plays, and he had this crazy registered freshman year where he routed off nine straight and it was Rose Bowl and BP. We probably all remember that. He became Sam Darnold that game. And then followed it up and had a decent year,

but good enough to be the third pick in the draft. And, yeah, I was nervous the whole way through, knowing that that was the floor in the draft for him at three. Because for all the reasons, I'm not going to educate you on how the Jets have struggled to develop quarterbacks. But, yeah, I was put in a really, I think, an impossible situation to succeed, not really given anything other than new coordinators every year. And if you look at it too, he got coaches who didn't get jobs after that, right?

Like Adam Gage? Yeah, Adam Gase is not. I don't think. I'm not rolling back to college. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, and then the part that nobody catches is probably four years ago, he's in Carolina. And it was the year when they traded Christian.

So Christian got hurt week four at Houston. I was at that game. through the first three games of that year, Joe Brady was his coordinator. Joe Brady's the coordinator of the bills now. Sam was rolling, playing great football. And they built the whole offense around Christian, but I'm not saying he was playing great because he was handed the ball to Christian replay.

I'm saying like, no, he looked great. And then Christian got hurt, and they just really struggled to have an identity. You know, Robbie Chosen was his main receiver. You know what I mean? So it was just a tough situation. And the year unraveled on him. And then Matt Ruhle came in,

and then Baker Mayfield came in, and then Karen Newton came. And it was just like, well, here's how to not develop a quarterback. And then coming out of there, he goes to Sam Fran. And it was a smart move to go to Sam Fran because my point that I made to him, I helped guys out in free agency all the time, just making decisions is I said, Sam, you've never had context for being in a winning locker room. You've never been around a bunch of guys where every single person you look at is a winner.

And just everyone in the NFL is not a winner. And so going to Sam Fran, I'll get to Kyle Shanahan in the second. But in Sam Fran, and I don't care what the record is right now. These guys for the last four years have either been to the NFC title game but the Super Bowl, right? So when you, the San Francisco 49ers, the best players on the team, if I said rank the best players, those are also like, I don't know where Devo's on on that list, but everybody else like is also the hardest working most bought in guy. Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, juice, you know what I mean? The left tackle, like Bosa.

So that's a team where the best players are also the most bought in. And that's not true. I can speak from experience. That is not true everywhere. And so to go and immerse yourself and not have to be the vocal leader to sit back. And by the way, Brock Purdy, super hardworking, super bought in. One of the best players on the theme, right? So when you look at it, get to go be around that for a year.

And by the way, go to the Super Bowl. And watch Brock Pretty play. And then get to the Kyle Shanahan, how much you learn. And they might run the exact same concept he's ran before. But Kyle explains it differently or so is this different angle. and it's like, oh, man, I never even thought about it. That's easier to think about it like that. Kyle's just a fantastic teacher.

And so to go and get to do that and sharpen it kind of in the quiet, like in the dark, nobody was watching San Donald last year, to then put him in a position to be in a situation where now he's the guy and has a lot of those same things. Those players in Minnesota really bought in. That coaching staff is phenomenal across the ward. It's a great culture. And then to play for a coach, you played the position,

two coaches, because Josh McCowns is quarterback coach. I don't think it's magic. I don't think it's luck. And I don't think it's just Justin Jefferson. I think it's a combination of Sam weathering the storm of six years of kind of getting punched in the stomach and remaining neutral about it, not getting too high or too low. So from a sports psychology perspective, remaining very neutral. He's a very neutral think here. It's something I teach.

And I always tell guys like Sam who are really talented, really bought in, work hard. I just say, look, in my experience, there will be a time and a place where all you have to do is play to the best of your ability and you will be in every game with a chance to make a run at the end. That's a verbatim quote. And I've been telling him that for about five years. And he's now in a place where all he has to do is play the best of his abilities and they're going to be in every single game with a chance to make a round at the end. What's the advice you give a guy like a, let's say, a Cam Ward or a Shador or any of the guys going in, even last year. and you know they're going into a situation that Cleveland or the Raiders that don't have a history, at least in the past few years of developing a quarterback.

And it doesn't look like they'll be surrounded by the best. Like how do you keep their heads on straight? Well, it's a great question. It can feel, the narrative can feel like a dead end, right? Like Cleveland took me. I mean, my, the guy of context here, my brother was drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals, number one. pick, right? So, like, and this is, he talked about this. So my brother, um, won the Heisman and he was in New York and he did the media tour. And so I think it was CBS was there at the time.

And the people were James Brown, who's shout out James Brown on the greatest guys on TV ever. And, uh, Chris Sims and whoever else. And then Boomer O'Suyvesant. And boomer Sison was a quarterback for the Bengals a long time ago. Like, he was the greatest Bengals quarterback before. my brother than before Joe Bro, right? And so he wins the Heism and he goes there and kind of locked my brother up to be the number pick at that point. And he's doing the interview and everyone's like, oh, yeah, congratulations. So tell me about what you're going to do.

But you're not doing the whole deal. And Boomer decides and hands him a Bengals helmet. And he goes, congratulations and welcome to the Cincinnati Bengals where quarterbacks come to die. And that really stuck with my brother because Boomer is like a really sharp, credible, good guy. You know, like he's not like, he's not a lightning rod, you know. and that that that that that that comment i think sat with my brother for a while and um not speaking for him but like i know that was the thing and and then what happened is the narrative kind of came out and then you hear about it all the time and all these problems but here's the antidote for that

joe burrow heard those exact same things right i trained joe for the draft and he's clined out like he was the number one pick the bangles are going to take him they weren't going to move off the pick anybody could have traded anything they weren't going to do it right and he went to those super bowl his you're there off of an ACL. And so if I'm talking to Shadur or Cam, I go, the narrative is the narrative. Let's say it's Cleveland or the Raiders, okay? The narrative is the narrative, but you create the narrative moving forward. So I talk a lot about neutral thinking.

One of my best friends he passed away a couple years ago, Trevor Moad was arguably the top performance psychologist in the world. And he had a really interesting perspective on explaining how the past doesn't have to have anything to do with the future. Like you can't prove that it does. Now we can take the momentum of something that's happened, how terrible everything's gone, how awesome everything's gone. We can take that momentum into the next thing, but it doesn't have to have anything to do with that. And so the ability to reset, whether it's Sam Darnel resetting personally each year or Joe Burrow going to the Bengals going, look, I know how things have gone, but that's not how they're going to go. Or it shoulder,

cam or whoever going to the going to cleveland going to whoever it is and like that past doesn't have to have anything to do with it the last piece of advice i give guys when they come in is you're going to be celebrated so much for all that you do during the draft process you're going to see your own highlights all the time on tv all the time on social media you better be damn sure that you are consciously almost um almost like through a level of paranoia trying to address the things that you can actually fix right now the things that you can improve on because it's so easy to go through the motions and then go get and be so set on the draft or

the shrine bowl or the combine or my workout. You can get so set on these individual events that are ahead of you that you better, we damn sure, be focusing on what do I need to fix right now that work for me in college that will not work next year? Who can I have around me who's going to point those

things out? And how do I obsess over those things? Because once the draft happens and you put that hat on and now you're like a bear or a whatever, like it doesn't matter. Now you're just a quarterback and expected to play it level. Final three questions. And I do want to talk about Patrick Mahomes for a second.

Not sure when you started working with or tutoring Patrick Mahomes. Maybe it was a Texas Tech, maybe once he got in the NFL. But when he was at Tech, tech was fine, 500 team, you know, a little below, sometimes game over. Like, what's the difference in Mahomes at Tech and Mahomes with Kansas City? Is it Andy Reed? Is it, like, where did he hit his? maturation. What's the difference now? Bobby, that is such a good question. Nobody has ever

asked me that question. Here's my answer. I don't think a whole lot. I'm one of the few guys that watched them play in college. Their defense, they couldn't stop anybody. He had to score 55 points a game. I went to one of his games. My brother, it was a season opener. He was fine for the Cardinals, and they were hosting the Patriots on Sunday night football, week one. And it was one of the games when Brady was suspended for the first four games the season. And Pat was playing at ASU on Saturday. I was like, oh, perfect. I'll come in early.

I'll go watch Pat. I've been friends with Kingsbury, his coach at the time, who's O.C. in Washington now. I've been friends with him forever. I'm like, oh, dude, it'd be great. So I go there, I bring my son him on the sidelines.

I'm watching warm-ups, watch the game. And the running back for Arizona State, Keelan Belage had seven touchdowns in that game. It's the only thing I remember about it. And I think Pat scored like 49 points and lost. That was his whole career. When you know that your defenses,

and I played this way in college, too. We had to score a lot of points to win. And what happens is a couple things. When you are in a situation, and I'll say in high school, that's fine too, where you know you got to score, I'll make up a number 45 points to win today. Okay. Like we're not going to win 1710, okay, because they're going to score 35. What happens is you have to be over aggressive. You also can't turn it over.

If you turn it over, you have to assume they're going to score. So a pick is like minus seven, right, if you're playing math in your head. And so you have to be aggressive. You have to be aggressive, but you have to be somewhat conservative on taking chances. So you've got to go after it, but you can't just throw it up, right? You can't take sacks. You can't take, get holding penalties. So how you scramble.

So what happens is is Pat played in like 30, 40 games like that. And so this run and shoot, go, go, go, score, score. And I would say at the time, Texas Tech was as innovative on offense as anybody in college in the passing game. And I would say now Andy Reed is as innovative as anybody in the passing game in the So that part didn't change. I'm not comparing those two coaches, but like that part didn't change. I don't think his work ethic changed. I think he's always been a hard worker.

And confidence-wise for him to sit that first year and then his first year playing it throws like 50 touchdowns, like we're celebrating guys throwing 35 right now. Like 50 is first year. So like all that needed to happen was the confidence to translate it from the Big 12, which is irrelevant football at the time, to the AFC West, which is relevant football at the time. That was the thing that needed to happen. And I think there's a lot of pieces. I think the normalcy of his life, of the same, you know, he's married to his wife.

He's been the same girlfriend. He's got the same trainer, Bobby Stroop, who does this good a job of anybody getting their athlete. I'm sure he's with Bobby right now working on this ankle as we record this. So I think he's kept his nucleus, his core, the same. His confidence is obviously he thinks he's one of the best athletes on the planet. but I think that's the part that evolved. I don't think anything changed.

I don't think he got way better. And again, we're talking about a guy who went 10th overall that if we redrafted, 1,000% of people would say he was the number one pick. So, like, it's not, this is not a six-rounder that somebody found. It feels a bit parallel to what Burroughs going through now. What you're talking about in the homes in college, where minus seven is an interception where Burroughs got to score every freaking driver they're going to lose the game. Yeah.

Well, he's scoring every single. what driving they are losing the game. Yeah, even then. I know, I know. I know. Crazy. Yeah, George, I was going to ask you, Jordan, real quick about backups. And what's the mindset when a backup is called in to take over? And they always say, oh, they're always ready. Like, you got to stay ready. But realistically, is it like, I'm just going to hand off the ball four times and just see what happens? Or let's, I'm going to be a hero here. Yeah, that's a great question. So I think there's a couple of ways that a backup enters the game. Okay, let's say, let's say like in the middle of the game you go in.

Okay. So one is you're up big. So you are going to do what you just said. You're going to go in your hand the ball off and take some knees. In fact, it's funny. Last year, Sam Darnall was the backup in the Niners. And Kyle Allen, who's with the Steelers now was the backup to Josh Allen and Buffalo. And Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and Kyle Allen all did draft prep together.

and they all live down street down here really close to me and their best friends. And there was this. We had a whiteboard in our office and we were because Kyle Allen kept going in at the end of Bills games when they were up and Sam Donald kept going in at the end of Niners games and they kept taking knees. We had this like toggle over who was going to have more negative rushing yards at the end of the year. It was hilarious. I think it was like it ended up like 14 to 12.

But it was like the text chain was pretty funny. But so you enter into a game because you're down big. or you're up big, right? Those are natural. But you also enter in because the starter got hurt. Now there's two ways of getting hurt. There's temporarily hurt, okay? Like he's going to go to the blue tent or they're going to change,

they're going to tape it up, right? But you're only in for like a series or a play, right? Like Sam Donald got hurt this year. Nick Mullins went in through a seam down the, or a fade down the sideline, and then San Donald jog back in, right? So you temporarily go in. The hardest way for a backup to go in is when the starting quarterback,

you know right now that is a season ending injury and I am now the starting quarterback of this team. There's nobody behind me. There's nowhere to turn to and it's my turn down. And Jake Browning is a client of mine. And Jake Browning is the backup to Joe Burrow. And last year, he competed with Trevor Simian for the backup job. He had been on practical for three years.

hadn't played a snap in the game. And Joe Burrow hurt his wrist at Baltimore. And the first play they ran with Jake Browning was a fake toss to the right, roll left. He rolls left backward, basically backside, flips his hips and whips an overout to Trent Irwin coming across the field and freaking dying. And I was like, he's going to be just fine. And for the next five games, I think statistically speaking, Jake Browning's first five starts are the best in NFL

history. And so what's really impressive to me is when a backup comes in because it's not just jokes hurt. One, oh my gosh, that's one of my best buddies, he's hurt. The other thing is like, okay, what's the, what's the series? You know, what do you call the next play? You know what I mean? like there's the right now, and then there's this emotional state that you're stepping into going like, oh, I'm the quarterback moving forward. And there's some practice squadron behind me,

but like I, I'm the quarterback. And that's, I think, when a guy does that and does it well, like Jake Browning, I immediately go, I don't care how big you are, I don't care how fast you are, I don't care how strong you are, you can start in this league because that's harder than having an entire off season of preparation

with those guys than going in and plan. Before you came on, we were talking about thread performance. We were just talking about some of the stuff, some of the products there. But I was debating if I'm playing flag football in like a rec league, if it would help me.

Yeah. Do you have any kids, Bobby? No, not yet. Okay. But they all do. They all have boys to play. So you can talk to them about that. But I'm talking about myself.

I'm being selfish like, you know, you're going to work for me. Yeah, absolutely. So everything that's in there is great for us. And but it's pretty crazy. I'm a bit of an entrepreneur. I can see, Bobby, is your ring? Is it metal or is it rubber?

Well, this one's rubber because I do play a lot of ball. I know ball and I play ball, so I got to keep it rubber. So my buddies and I created the Silicon Wedding Ring category. We launched a company called K-L-O, Q-A-L-O. I was playing still at the time. Me and my high school wide receiver, Taylor Holiday, and our two partners started it. And it ended up going nuts.

It's kind of why I retired. I retired because nobody wanted me. But I had a chance to go play somewhere, but I had to like decide between investing my equity or not. And we ended up, by the time we sold that company, we sold just under $200 million with the rings. And so I started that. And then we spun that into a digital marketing agency.

And this is like 2009, 2010, right at the beginning of e-commerce and people started advertising on Facebook. So there was a point when I thought that we had actually spent more money than anybody on Facebook. And so we launched an agency and grew to 130 employees. And that's what I did every day. I have coach quarterbacks on the side. In fact, when I did Josh Allen, San Bernardo, Kyle Allen's draft, like, I would leave the field at 1030 and go to work.

And in that process, I had a lot of nutrition companies as clients. I ran business development. So I'd always deal with the founder, but I wasn't like in the ad account. And so I saw some clowns build some big companies and I saw some great products, just not be marketed the right way. And I just, I had a lot of experience from a, from a marketing perspective and from an entrepreneur's eyes to the founder's eyes of nutrition companies. companies. But it was interesting. That was it for me. I was a pro athlete, so I know what my body needs and doesn't need. But now working with so many quarterbacks, and for the last five years, I sold that back to the agency back to my partners five years ago, and I've been doing this full

time. I get a lot of the same questions. I'm a consultant, so consultants get a lot of the same questions. You know, my elbow hurts, the coach is a jerk, you know, the same kind of the how does we go about recruiting? Should we transfer or not? How do I pick an agent? But one of the questions I got is what should I feed my kid? And I just didn't like my answers. I didn't feel like I knew what to tell them. I've got two close friends. You may know him, Bobby. They live in Nashville. Do you know Dr. Josh Axe, who owns ancient nutrition? I think I may have done some work with the doc when I injured myself at one point and had to ask him for a little consultation. So he's, I would say that him and Jordan Rubin, they own ancient nutrition. And before that

Jordan Rubin sold Garden of Life for like $1.2 billion. I would say that they're like the thought leaders in space when it comes to holistic eating. I don't know the billion guy. I don't know any billionaire. So that one I don't know. Yeah. And ancient nutrition is that big too now. But I just went to them as friends, but hey, what should I tell people?

And I was blown away with how little I knew about puberty. I go, these are young kids. So what should kids go into puberty take? And I like, if they would have quizzed me in that first conversation, I would have got enough. And I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense. People pay me a lot of money to help advise them. And I don't, I'm not even, I can't even advise them on some

that you could argue is more relevant than anything I'm going to tell them. And I told my now partner, Clark, who lives out in the Grove by you, and I said, hey, it's super interesting. I've been learning a lot about this. And he called me the next day. He goes, I didn't sleep last night. I stayed up all night. There's not a single company making products for that kid, for that demographic.

And so we spent a lot of time researching. We hired a great formulators to come in and build products very specifically designed for athletes with developing bodies. And we are off to a very hot start. We launched three months ago. I've been very well received. And so we got three products. One of them is a powder.

It's a daily pack. You see in my video that right here. And so like this is daily fuel. Mix it with water. It's even better with almond milk, throwing a smoothie. But you have collagen, very specific types of collagen,

one, five, and ten from fermented eggsome membrane. But for kids, ligament and tendon strength and fascia repair is huge when you're going to puberty. Bobby, for you and I, same thing. Go play that. All. Good store.

Same thing. Not all collagen is the same. But then there's also grass-fed weight protein. We have probiotics in here. We have a mushroom blend of Afroganda and Lionsmane and a few others. All your daily greens and all your daily vitamins. So as a mom, if you put this in your kids backpack and they mix it with water and they drink it, like you just checked every box for the day.

Like you can feel better. And then the other two products we have are capsules. One is for energy. But it's not B12 or, you know, caffeine. It's really about muscle oxygenation and a mushroom blend that helps with focus because kids don't need a spike in energy at 2 o'clock in the afternoon like you and I do. What they need is sustained focus and energy and blood oxygenation so that they recover quicker because they got to sit in class, go to recess, sit in class, get out, go to practice, come home, to eat dinner, do their homework, finish their project, and go to bed. And then they got to repeat it. And so we have a product for that.

And then the last one is for strength gains, not even just weight gain, but strength gain. And it's actually completely botanical. And we have these crazy results. We partnered with this company Rip Factor, and we see crazy results. Their studies are like, I think it's like 2.4x, like strength gains with your lower body and like 2.6 with your upper body. It's like crazy results. And we are getting those emails back now. We are hearing moms say, oh, my goodness.

So we came out with three products. We've got more for boys and girls. Bobby, you and I take it every day. it's great it's great stuff it's not you know it's not kids gummies um but uh i i think you know our sale it's been an incredible start for our launch but some of these emails are getting from parents of like i can notice the difference in my kid and their focus is different and all that and we've got a lot more products coming out in the hopper very specifically when we get into girls um girls are a lot more likely to tear a ligament when um they're on their cycle and so we've

got some products coming out and hydration. And so we think this is a worthy market. We raise money very quickly from some awesome people who were very strategic. And it's been a great start for thread performance. And I think it's a good time in our country to have a company that makes healthy things for kids too, because I think we're going to see a lot more people waking up to what they have been giving their kids or what their parents gave them when they were little. And we'll put all the information in the notes, but threadperformance.com to find all the products.

We were talking about it earlier as well. And then also the quarterback room podcast. And I encourage people to check that out. It's quarterback talking quarterback. It's an awesome show. Love taking in your content just in general, Jordan. And really appreciate the time today, man. So thank you for spending a few minutes with us.

Yeah, thanks for having me. This was great. All right, Jordan. Thanks, man. Are we off? We're off. Bobby. Yes, sir.

It didn't hit me until. So I apologize. This was set up. And like I said, I just got back last night. and then I've been off work for a week, so I'm looking at a pile of stuff over there. And then I saw your book, Bear Bones, and I go, oh, my gosh, Bobby Bones. Very rarely did I ever miss an American Idol season. From the start, from the start.

That's funny. I was in college, and my roommate and I would watch it. It was when DirecTV first came out and we could TiVo it. That's funny. And I've always loved it. And I've known Luke and, you know what I mean? I've got the old, like, Brian, you know. That's fun.

That's really funny. It hit me for a second because I just didn't think I didn't put you in the sports bucket. I know, but I know I know exactly who you are. I am incredible talent. I got some amazing career, man. Oh, thanks, man. It's funny. It hit me like halfway through.

I do, I do a show with Castle as well. I'm at Castle. And so, and Castle is the same way we're talking about stuff. And he's like, wait, and he was over at the house. And he was like, you won dancing with the stars? He goes, I watched that show all the time. And I had the trophy there. And I was like, I would not expect you to watch Idol or him to watch dancing with the stars.

But it's like, you. Here I am, baby. I do all the things that, well, didn't get me girls in either. Renaissance, man. You know who watches Dancing with the Stars? This one is Josh Allen and Haley Steinfeld. Yeah. They love it.

My wife and I've been. My wife and I love, those are the only shows we really watch. So I haven't watched in DWTS like the last couple years. But we went, I saw Adele perform at Dancing with the Stars. That was like my date night. I live in Orange County. So my wife and I would go up and be like, hey, let's go. And go to the ballroom.

Yeah, we'd go to the ballroom. It's super fun. Yeah, it's intense, dude. I'm not there to like meet famous people and take pictures. It's like, no, we watched the show. We'd let it get down to like five or six. Yeah. And then we'd like go to a show and we'd go to dinner in LA and we'd sit in a hotel.

That was like our fun date night. And then The Bachelor and Bachelorette's the other one, I've been to multiple final rows ceremony. In fact, Kyle Allen, this is a great one. It was all over the internet. So for two guys that are not famous, it was all over the, that. So Kyle and I went and, and, oh, why am I drawn a blank on his name? Chris. Chris is like, Chris Harrison.

Yeah, he's a big football fan. Yeah, he's a big football fan. And so he'd come down, you've been down and watch my guys work out and stuff like that, just nerd out on football. And so I go, hey, I want to come up to the Thuner Rose. So he sets us up and he's like, hey, do you guys, I got good seats. You guys want to sit there or do you want to sit here? But if you sit here, you're going to be like right behind the two chairs, the whole show. I was like, yeah, right there. And Kyle Allen had Bison. And so Kyle and I, in between, we're squirting by Zine in our eyes.

And we were just trying to get on camera, making it look like we were crying, reacting to what was happening. And there's a great clip of the two of us going, like right behind the chairs. That's awesome. I'm a big fan of what you do, man. Thanks, man. Thank you. Again, thank you for the time. And hopefully I'll see it in real life sometime.

Yeah. All right, buddy. See, Jordan. Christmas is coming up. So Eddie, here's what I have. And I don't care if it's for you to say it's from you to your boys or if you say it's from me to your boys. I don't care. Okay.

But I've been saving these. So I have a Jason Witten's signed jersey. Whoa. Dang. Well, they're all cowboys because I know some of your boys don't want to be Cowboys fans as much as others. Yeah, no, but this will help. Okay. I think eventually they will.

But right now. Oh, my gosh. Is that a Diggs jersey? Jersey. Check it out. Bones. That is awesome. Deon Sanders.

Oh, my goodness. Do I have to give them to my kids? and Zach Martin. That's amazing. So you can say that they're from me or you just say they're from you get you. I'm not asking for the credit. What I love about this, this is amazing. But what I love about is you've understood now that when you gift one of my kids a gift.

You got to get them all. Or else you got three jealous ones. They're like, where's my jersey? So, dude, thank you for that. That's amazing. I'm going to have to tell him Uncle Bobby got that. Santa Bobby. You literally don't have to.

But they love, do they love you? and I think it would be so cool coming from you. Okay, well. Especially the little one. He talks about you every day. Then you have to wrap them though and say I wrapped them too then. Oh, you want me to wrap them? I saved them.

You don't have to wrap them. No, that's great. I wrap them put under the tree from Bobby and Caitlin or just Bobby? No, not from Caitlin. That's why I asked. She had nothing to do with that. That's awesome, dude. I saved those four, I mean, I saved all the four of the Cowboy Wednesday to have.

So they can have them. I don't know who you're going to give the youngest one that, Zach Martin. Oh, for sure. Yeah, because he won't know. the difference. Yeah, yeah. You'll probably be alignment too. Okay. But in any, you do not have to say they're from me if you change your mind. God, that's amazing. They can be from you, you and your wife. And I have to give them to my kids. Like, like, you brought the younger one. He, dude, he may not. What would you do with, what, do you, what do you're going to wear one?

Yeah, the Deion Sanders one. Yeah. I don't, you know what, I go to the sports bar. I don't care what you do with them. But I saved them because you have four boys. Take them. Thank you, dude. That's so cool. Thank you. Wow. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. This story is not funny. It's not funny.

It's actually terrible. Oh, great. It's not funny. Okay, so. It's not funny. It's like, oh my God. Why would you? Eric Mould sued for allegedly intentionally,

which by the way, Eric Moulds played for the Bills and the Texans and the Titans. He intentionally gave Bill's fans STDs. What? A new dude, I'm telling you, it's not funny. What? It's like a fictional story of like, that's what the- This has got to be a movie. That's what I'm saying.

It's freaking wild. A new lawsuit alleges that he intentionally passed an incurable Sity of female fans. The lawsuit was filed by an unidentifiedified woman who claims that Moles did this to several other women, that he specifically targeted single mothers who are Buffalo Bill's fans. This is psychotic. That's, like this is, I've never heard of this. Dude, me either. It feels fake.

It does. It feels fake. What position do you play? He's a wide receiver, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. What? He's being sued for negligence and intentional causes of action, failure to disclose, da-da-da-da-da.

But the fact that's like intentionally giving another fan, like looking for fans of the team. It's weird. It's like when people, you know, punch a fan like of another team like on the street and like knocking away. Did you see that video? For no reason. For no reason. It's like, this is next level. This is great.

Well, that fist to the face, you can, it won't stay forever. This stays forever. It said uncurable. Well, it's a virus. It's herpes. Oh, it was that one? Yeah, it may go into regression or into, yeah, or not maybe. Yeah, it's like dormant or dormant.

Thank you, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, I got you. Thank you. We had no idea what we're talking about. We're going to get there eventually. Thank you. But, yes. He knows too much about it. Oh.

I thought that what a dirt bag, huh? Yeah, that's weird. That's not weird, dude. That's a sense. That's dirt. Yeah. It's messed up. Yeah.

It has a dirt bag type stuff. Dang. Okay. Eddie Cowboys? Yeah. I mean, don't disrespect the Cowboys, I guess, by making them an underdog. They got mad at that. I guess they got upset.

I mean, it doesn't make a difference to us. They could still win nine. They could still go nine and eight. They went out. Went out. Mike McCarthy back. I don't even know. Like, watching him on the sideline is funny because, like, he's like, I don't even think

He's like wanting to win because he's like, am I going to be here next year? I don't know what I'm doing. I think he's there next year. You think he's here? I think so. If you ask me right now, I don't think they're firing him.

It's pretty crazy, dude. But his contract ends. Okay, I think he gets another year. Yeah. I guess they wouldn't fire him. They just wouldn't renew his deal. Yeah. Great point, great point.

But I think the Cowboys, if they still win every game, I'm not looking at the record. I think they can still go nine and eight. And I don't know if they're mathematically eliminated yet. I mean, there has to be some losses, right? Because the NFC is getting stacked. Eagles clinch Yeah

One of the commanders to lose yesterday And they did not They almost did though Yeah Two-point conversion They did a strong lead too Cowboys have three tough games Oh yeah yeah yeah

Tampa Bay Who do we have next week The Bucks The Eagles and the commanders Oh they don't play the Bengals Oh they lost the Bengals Last week Yeah

We shouldn't have lost that But we did Wait so what's the record They are six and eight Currently So they can be nine and eight I don't know, dude. Is there a percentage right now with the Cowboys to get in the playoffs?

Has there been a new one updated today since it's not Monday Night Football yet? I mean, the one I saw on Sunday yesterday was 1%. Hey. You're saying there's a chance. Zero. Okay, Cowboys percentage to playoffs 17 hours ago after Week 15 wins versus Panthers. The Dallas Cowboys have made, however, take the Panthers. It comes out of week 15.

Still alive in the postseason chase. A lot of work to be done. It's one way to put it. The Cowboys... Here we go. Come on, Bones. You got a drum roll on this, Mike? Right now, they're the 12th team,

and obviously they need to be one of the top seven. Yeah, that's a long ways. At seven right now, the commanders at 9 and 5. So they're going to have to at least win nine games, and they're going to need a lot of people to lose. They need the Niners to lose. That's fine. Falcons.

Really, it's just the commanders. If the commanders or the seat... If they lose out? If they don't win another game... But I don't know who's got the head-to-head. Did you guys play the commanders coming up? Yes. Yeah.

So that could be the... What about the first game? And you guys beat them, right? Oh, my God. Can you imagine? No, no, no. I mean, that'd be crazy. But, dude, there's no way.

We have to win every... Hold on. There are three games left. They have to lose one? Or, no, they have to lose them all. and we have to win them all. Yeah. Yes, but the Seahawks and Cardinals are still kind of in the mix, too.

They are. Seahawks, I don't know what's Gino's. Cardinals are done. Yeah, Kyler was hurt yesterday and Gino was hurt yesterday. Who do the Cowboys play next? In Tampa Bay. On Monday. Hey, man, I'm just saying they're still in the mix.

I don't think so. See, you just lost hope, too. No, no, they're still in the mix. As long as you're in, you're in. It ain't over until it's over. And then what are we going to do? Make the playoffs and then just kind of do what we always do? It'd be really cool for me at the playoffs, though.

With Cooper Rush. I think he's got, what, 10 touchdowns and three picks? Is that right? And how many sacks? I don't know. 15 sacks. But whatever that stat is, they put it up the DAC and it was not good for DAC. No, guys, stop that.

It's never good for DAC. Cowboys are the most... Loved? I know, most valuable. Oh, yeah. Franchise in American sports. Cowboys at 1. Warriors at 2. Over the Yankees.

Wow. Cowboys, that's all stuff. Yeah. I'm sure. Cowboys at 1, Warriors, 2. Rams at 3. Yankees at four, Knicks at five, Patriots at six, Giants at seven, Lakers at eight, Jets at nine, Niners at 10.

How do the Rams get more fans? Like, how do they do that, though? Because that's tough for them, that they play at home and, like, more than half of the people there are for the visiting team. They're better than the Chargers. Yeah, you're thinking of the Chargers for the most part. Yeah, the Chargers are really good at that, too. Rams have been there for a long time, but L.A. has so many options all the time for everything. Yeah.

I mean, unless you're the Dodgers, it's hard to be in L.A. and have people there and everything. I think their owner has something to do that, too, probably, because he owns a couple of teams. So I'm sure the value of it goes up, maybe? I think just being in L.A. Yeah. I mean, you own a professional sports team in L.A.,

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It looked pretty bad. But like four plays before that, he went down then too. It wouldn't be a postseason without him limping in some, you know what I mean, some capacity. Yeah. Bengals of Titans, ugly game.

scoring game. Bangles won easy. Did you see that guy drop the pick six in the end zone? Yes. Weren't there a couple of drops? Right before getting the end zone that turned into touchbacks? Oh yeah. There's two. Two. Yeah. Not only the pick six, but the Colts last night. John Nathan Taylor. Did the ball flip

right at the goal line. Going on Earth. Guys, you know this. That's crazy. They keep doing this. It's crazy people keep doing this. I don't understand. Like I remember You got one more step, man. One more step. Eagles wide receiver really fast. back in the name.

Sean Jackson. Yes, Sean Jackson. Did it in, like, college and then did it in NFL as well, too. But, like, when one person does it, you should never do it again because it's the dumbest reason. Stubbered. And John Taylor's like, but he's like a veteran. Yes, yes. Super smart guy.

He knows. Wow. Commanders beat the Saints. Went for two. Did not get it. And I was like, go for two. Then I was like, oh, it's South Carolina. Spencer Ratt.

Rattler. He didn't even start. He didn't. Hainer started. It was terrible. Jake Hanner, it was terrible. A lot of really bad quarterback to play last... Which is why we don't want to be hit quarterback. The first window of game yesterday was so bad. James four picks. Will Blevicks. They pulled James. Yeah. We'll have a

sucks. It's got to be over. It's got to be done. Ravens welcomed up on the Giants. Cowboys beat the Panthers. I will say, there was a really bad... Bryce Young faked the crap out of Micah Parsons. And then fumbled it. On the same play.

Yeah, not a good game for the ice. Not a good game. Jets and Jaguar is a good game. Congratulations. That game went down to it. I remember they were like, the Jets need a, boom, touchdown, right? Leave it for us to be officially eliminated for us to see like what this could have been.

You know what I mean? DeVante Adolf was out of control. That sideline catch that he made that was like bending backward to get his feet in. He feels like he's 200 years old because he played with Aaron Rogers and the Packers. God dang, he's awesome. It's 2015 all over again. Love it. Both of those guys.

with the Jets. They're wide receivers. Now they have somebody... Garrow Wilson, too. Yeah. Gary Wilson is awesome. You got another touchdown. Yep.

Yeah. We never knew how awesome he was because nobody could get him the ball. Right. He's so good. And you're finally able to see now how good he is because... Yeah, Rogers actually looks like he can move around a little bit now, so... Yeah, too bad.

Sorry, yeah. Too bad that it doesn't mean anything. Do you want Roger's back next year? Not really. I want to blow the whole thing up. I think you should. Start from scratch. Texans beat the Dolphins.

Two, his third pick was ugly. Second pick was bad. His third. third pick was terrible. Stingley took both of them. Yeah. Bills and Lions, what a freaking game. That onside kick was hilarious.

I know. Why do you take it so early? Because no one was thinking he was going to take it early. But that's the thing. They have to announce it now. They announce it and they line up. See what like the new rules are you have to announce it. Yeah. No, no, I know. There's no surprise to it. Dan Campbell. I don't really get it. Yeah, I know. I know. I know you want to be like

crazy. You don't know what I'm doing. But that was like like, now there's no chance. Because you announce it, but then they're still like, really? That's what I was thinking. I don't believe you. They weren't expecting them to take it early. They're like, okay, we're going to onside kick it, and the guys are like, I don't. No way.

But boy, they, yeah. Eagles, whooped Steelers, Cardinals, Patriots. I mean, really, who cares, no offense? I know. I was not emotionally invested really at all. Baker had four freaking touchdowns. Yeah, he went on. And then the Chargers did not score it all in the second half.

And then the Packers, and Gino left in the third quarter, right? Yes. How sweet, though, Tyler Lockett walks out with him too. Walks all the way down to the tunnel and gives them a little hug. And like, all right, I'm going to get back to the game. Good luck. I didn't see that. Yeah.

I would do that for you guys. No, thanks, man. Yeah, I'd walk you guys in the tunnel. That's sweet, man. Very sweet of you, man. No problem. I think that's it. Oh, yeah.

You can try one of those candies if you want. What is it? Elf? No, the elf. You know how they had... Yeah, from Santa Claus. It's like the hot chocolate that's supposed to be so good because it's like so old. Is that from Elf or Santa Claus?

Santa Claus. But like, try the candy. It's like the greatest Christmas candy ever. My close my eyes. Don't eat more. I want... There you go. I see what you're doing there.

It's the sourest candy they've ever been in it. Oh my God. Oh, no. Really? Oh my God. I've been doing... I've been walking. read into this for like an hour and a half.

And Eddie almost ruined it right then. He goes, it's the worst. You're going to drown myself. The world's best taste in candy. Oh, you said, I thought you said worst. The world's best. Oh, thank God. Can y'all do that thing where you gleeke?

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Right now, I could. You can gleak? I could do a fountain. Dude, I've been gleak in my whole life. I've never been able to gleak. Whoa!

That's a good gleeck. You don't even want me to do it right now, dude. Do it. Don't do it in here. You just did it. It's my studio. Let me see Reed's Gleek. It shoots out this way.

Good to me. Oh, my goodness. Disgusting. Yeah, that was gross. Clean it up. I'm going to clean it up. That's the, keep it. Wow.

Keep it in, though. It's good now. Yeah, yeah, keep it in. Don't, don't, uh... Just enjoy it now. Keep at it. How do you even finish this thing? It's like, just enjoy it.

There's a little more inside that will come out. We want you to experience that, too. Oh, there's a little extra. We had convinced Reed an hour ago. It was like the greatest candy ever. He's like, oh, I can't. We're like, yeah, hold off. Have a little piece on the air. What does it taste like now?

I don't think I can get to it. It's okay. You got to tromp it? We're about to wrap up anyway. No, just don't do that. Enjoy it. I'm enjoying it. Hang out, man. All right. That's it. Everybody feel good? It feels great. I got to clean this table. Yes, you do.

Yep. I don't even know where it went, dude. I can't believe you guys can gleeck. That's cool. I've never been. I can whistle and I can't gleeck. I can whistle okay. I can glee. I can also do my tongue like a taco? Taco? You have like three tacos in there Three tacos in there Hey ladies love that

They don't, it really does something That's a funny joke that literally it does I don't know dude It does nothing Oh here it goes There's that middle part He's back Man you think it's over

And then it just hits you in Boy Reid was right He was right for the best candy ever My job He was so pumped He was so pumped All right thank you guys Please Bobby Bill in Sports

Put up a bunch of clips over there. Go follow if you don't mind. Bobby Bone Sports. Thanks to Jordan for coming on with us, and that is it. And we will see you guys later on this week. All right, boy. All right, bye, buddy.

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