The Bobby Bones Show - Thurs Post Show (11-17-22)
Episode Date: November 17, 2022Bobby reads a list of the most regretted majors. We talk about our majors in college and if we regret them or not. Bobby explains the Allegory of the Cave.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy infor...mation.
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Here's your host, Bobby Bones.
Hello, friends.
the most regretted college majors.
Mine is at number one.
Journalism.
And, you know, I was talking to, who's that?
Oh, it was, um, Mike, who did it,
who did I talk with about college majors?
Jordan Reynolds.
So we've been doing a bunch of bobbycast to get caught up for the end of the year.
Jordan Reynolds is a songwriter who wrote a bunch of,
he's written a bunch of stuff,
but he wrote a bunch of Dan and Jay,
massive song starting with tequila and all the way down.
I actually had a lot, I had a really good time with him.
That'll be out in a couple weeks.
but we were talking about college majors
and he was a vocal major
but he's never a singer
but he was like, I don't want to do music
so he moved in it from St. Louis
and I was like, well, I was a TV radio major
of one of my deals and you don't need that
and I told the story about how I went to Texas State
and told the kids in the radio class,
don't do this, don't study this.
If you want to do it, just go learn it out in the real world
while you go to college and study something else
because learning it in college
doesn't help you at all
because no station
especially in the radio world goes,
oh, you have a college degree from radio,
here's a leg up, not one single one.
TV different,
because there's some skills that you can learn
at the college television station,
but I got in a lot of trouble,
and they said,
don't never come back to the school again.
And then later, years later,
I got a letter going,
we're sorry about that,
you can come back.
But we were talking about that.
And I said, yeah,
for like what we do,
or like, it'd be like going to podcasting college.
You know, you just do it.
You get on the internet,
you look up how to do it,
then you do it wrong, then you do it kind of wrong, then you do it okay, then you do it pretty good,
and if you have the patient, you end up doing good, and you can make a little bit of money or a lot.
But journalism is the number one major, and that's me, and I agree, no need.
Number two, sociology. Number three, liberal arts, general studies.
But here's the thing, I still think these are valuable in that you did prove that you could take a task,
look at it, finish it, you have it. But it's just this specifically is the least valuable of all.
I'm also at a period where I don't even think you have to go to college.
I went to college.
Nobody had a family had ever been to college.
Nobody had a family graduated high school.
But I went, it was important to me to go.
But if somebody was like, my kid, if I were ever kids, I was like, I don't want to go to college.
I already know what I want to do.
Cool.
You can always go back to college.
Go get it.
Go start working on what you want to work on.
I definitely don't think you need to go to college at this point.
Now, there are some things that college does lead you into a little easier.
a job in finance.
You know, specific type jobs, definitely.
I'm not a, you have to go to college type guy.
Education at five, and they keep on going down.
But most people, they say almost half, say that their job major was stupid,
and they shouldn't have done it.
Yours?
I don't, I mean, I liked mine.
I mean, I was political science until my junior year.
And I hated it.
Political science?
Yes, it was horrible.
No.
No, no, no. Junior, I hated it so much. And then I switched and I just needed to graduate kind of on time. So my advisor in order for me to get out in four and a half years, she switched me to agricultural development because you have to have not a minor, but an emphasis in something. And so my- Does that mean you just walk by the classroom? If it's not a minor? What does that mean? You just know somebody who took a class?
It was like if you've, like my 12 hours of Polly Sye transferred over because it had- And that counted as an emphasis? Yeah.
I had a minor in French.
Oh, you using that?
We.
We, we.
Yeah, but I mean, I don't use mine.
Well, I strategize my French minor because we had to take a foreign language.
To be a communications major, you had to take four classes, four three-hour classes of a foreign language.
Spanish was full.
I want to take Spanish.
Yeah, that would have been good.
And so then I was like, well, I guess I'll take French.
I was terrible at it.
But I finished one, two, one year, one to the next year.
then they said for your minor
well you only need 15 hours for a minor
and I was like wait I need one more class to have a French minor
and they're like yeah so I took a French lit class
which was all in English we'd learn about literature
and so they'd have a French minor
nice that's cool
bongue
but yeah worthless right worthless
lunchbox you oh easy speech communication
nailed it
and public relations
we made the list
and minor general business
that's why I'm a businessman making business deal
trying to get that money.
I mean, the most ridiculous one was my roommate, though, he got a degree in philosophy.
I guess if you're going to teach philosophy, that's pretty cool.
Can you be a philosopher, though?
I feel like I am a lot of times.
You can just call yourself one.
Yeah, he was going to go into criminal justice, but it was going to take four and a half
years, so he switched to philosophy.
And he would come home and argue with me, hey, how do you know we're awake right now and we're
not dreaming?
Absolutely, how do you know we're not a simulation?
And I'm like, oh, my God.
You don't know.
That's the point of it.
You don't know.
But that is what he did all day.
He got a degree in that.
Yeah, I love it. Those classes change my life in many ways. That I continue to take philosophy classes, even after my first two. I tell you the story about my philosophy professor.
How do you know he's real?
I don't. I don't know anything is real.
The only thing we know is real, really, is us, and then we're confused about that.
I don't know what you're thinking. I can't see it.
But here's what happened.
You know what I'm thinking. You're thinking he's an idiot.
I'm thinking like, what are you talking about?
Yes, but are you just saying that to make me question the fact that I shouldn't be figuring out what's happening in here?
Oh, boy. Right? I mean, it's...
Yeah, see, this is what I'm talking about. This was my roommate, living with him,
and it was just like, I can't. I can't talk to you because you come up with these dumb conversations.
I don't think it's dumb.
I went and I learned about the cave.
The allegory of the cave.
And it was one of the greatest things I'd ever learned
because what it taught me was I don't know anything going on.
I see things.
My perceptions do say I see, touch, feel,
but I really don't know anything.
And you start to wonder, is there even a known?
However, I learn it, and I'm going to go into it.
But I'm so moved by it, I dial in on this class.
I don't even want to take this class
because they're like, this professor is so hard.
and I take the class
because it was the only one I could get into at that point.
I was working and I had to be selective
on what times I could take things
because I was working a full-time job
so I couldn't just go take the class
oh I really want that class
well it's only offered it three
well I had to drive an hour to get to work by then
so I couldn't so I took this really hard
class and this really hard professor
they said don't take
and I'm like I don't even know
so I go on I learn about the cave
and Plato's rocking it man
people lived in a cave
the whole time in the cave
in the cave, they were basically chained to the ground, right?
These two people, it could be two or three, chained to the ground,
and they lived in the bottom of a cave,
and on the wall of the cave, all they saw was like lights.
And that was from the outside of the cave coming in.
It was like the fire made reflection on the lights.
But they had never actually left the cave because they were chained to the ground.
And they could only look forward.
And their entire world was this, what they saw in front of them.
It would be like what you see every day in your life,
what's in front of you.
But all they ever saw was in front of them.
one of them was freed.
He goes out of the cave and he sees the whole world.
And he sees birds and he sees mountains.
He breathes there differently.
And he sees green grass.
He's these colors he's never seen before because the only they'd ever seen ever in their whole life was the reflection of the fire in the cave on the wall.
And he's able to experience all these things.
He's only out for a little bit.
They put him back in.
They chanted back down to this position.
He's been his whole life.
And he goes, guys, you're never going to believe this.
Out there?
Colors.
Birds, little things that fly.
Other people.
Mountains, clouds,
blue skies, rain, water are coming from.
And they're like, what are you talking about?
There's no, they can't even comprehend what this person saw.
They don't even believe he left.
They couldn't see him.
He just got quiet.
They don't know that he left and ran around and saw all this stuff, felt these things.
So they're like, you're the biggest idiot ever.
You're so stupid.
That doesn't happen.
That can't possibly exist.
He's like, no, I went out of the cave.
I saw it all.
They're like, no, that you're so dumb.
dumb. That can't happen because the whole world is just here, what we see. This is our whole world.
There's nothing more than this. And he's like, what's what we think, but we haven't had the
ability to actually get out of here. But I, they let me, I was able to go. And so again,
we're able to have leg, feet, the walk. Got, stop. Okay, you're, you're now insane. You're now
insane and we're not going to be your friend anymore. Now, he left the cave. He was able to see all
this stuff. And what that is, is how do we know there are people that can see and do things that we can't?
The fire to us is what we see every day in our life. And what we're able to take in with our eyeballs
and our ears and our senses. And we're not even able to see things that our dogs can see or people.
Some people can think things differently better. But we are the people in the cave.
And that wall is what we're able to see and experience every single day and what's on it.
And we go, no, there's no way outside of our earth. There can be.
things living. It doesn't have to even be that. It can be things here with us that we can't
smell or see or touch. Or it can be a limitless amount of things because we probably can't even
think of them. And are we those people in the cave? Yeah. In some way, sure, because we can't ever
see anything but what's on the wall. Anyway, that's the allegory of the cave. I wanted to apologize
to everyone listening and thank you guys in here. I should have never brought up philosophy of my
roommate getting a little bit. Changed. Change my life.
And so then I started to just dive into all of these different philosophers, everybody from, I mean, somebody called this, that was this morning or was it recorded about Voltaire when I was like, no, Voltaire actually said. It was Voltaire who said it, who said, I may not agree with you, but I'll fight to the death your right to say it, paraphrase. And so, but I started to study all of these philosophers and everything that I had learned growing up. And I grew up in an environment that wasn't,
very welcoming to new ideas, wasn't very inclusive, because everybody just went to work.
There was no, there was no, we don't want to learn it. It was like, there's no time to learn it.
There's no welcoming it because you've got to pay the bills. And a lot of my even belief system
was tilted because of all the things I learned that I didn't know, which taught me all the
things that I knew I could never learn. So why would I say things couldn't happen when I don't
have the ability to understand what can and can't. So all this stuff, my mind is just boom,
every day. And it was hard class too, but every day. I was challenged to the point where I would be
exhausted and I would be sad. I'd be really sad. Because here I am questioning a lot of things that
I was taught for no reason. I was just taught it because people around me were taught it and you just
pass it down without actually knowing it, but because it was told you from a generation before,
you just go up, must be true. That's a hard thing to do. To have to start wondering,
like all all that that was told to me for all the that maybe isn't true some of it's true none of it
you have to start questioning everything again it was the first time i had any sort of education
to start questioning things that i had been conditioned to learn and know this professor was
just bless people's balls too no curve you just took the test people just people were quitting class
i struggling struggling like bc i never got a c in college until french i did get a
to see, but I was in that low B spot. I didn't want to get to see it. And I ended up with a low B,
but the class was so hard. And but that teacher, I really, and I don't think he even knew who I was,
but I was a student that was very dedicated to learning because I was so interested. I was,
I was, I was curious. And I really appreciated him because you could tell he cared,
even though he was very hard. He walked to school every day. And a lot of times I'd see him and I'd want
to pick him up, but I was like, ah, I don't mind him. He didn't want to ride.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
I don't know.
He just walked with his books,
older guy, beard.
He'd come in,
loved philosophy.
Wasn't the warmest, nicest guy.
Wasn't mean,
but just came in,
do the job,
passionate about it.
A little weird,
then would leave.
And so finally,
the whole summer
I was just working,
I was like,
man,
when I go back,
I'll call him Mr. Jones.
Like,
I'm going to go back.
I cannot wait.
I'm going to go to Mr. Jones.
I'm going to his office
and knock on the door.
And I'm going to say,
hey, Mr. Jones, you've changed my life.
You don't even know who I am.
And as Bobby, I was in your class.
There were 80 other people in this class,
but I'm going to tell you,
you changed my life.
And I planned because I had wanted to do it
or reach out to him.
I never did.
And I was like, you know what?
If I see them on the side of road,
I'm picking them up.
Because I had all these new feelings and emotions,
and I had a lot of growth.
Most of my growth visualizing
had a lot to grow.
And so first day at school.
I go and I look,
and they had built a new building
because we were in like those temporary trailers
There's like, I don't know what they had, but what are they called?
Portables.
Portables.
Yeah, portables for that part of the campus.
His office was in a portable for it.
I'm trying to find out where his office is because they just rebuilt one of the halls.
And I go over and I look and I can't find his name on the list.
I'm like, what must be another building?
So I go over to the little center where you ask, you have any questions.
I said, hey, what happened to Mr. Jones?
They said he died like two weeks ago.
I never told him.
Always, I wanted to tell him before I left and I was like, I'll wait.
I'll wait, I'll wait. I'll tell him the new year. I'll tell him, I'll tell him, I'll tell him.
He died two weeks before I was able to go and actually go, hey man, your passion for this and your
ability to express it and how you challenge me in this class has shaped who I know I'm not.
And I built it up and I waited too long and I was two weeks late and I regret that.
And I don't regret many things. I pushed a button that cost a million bucks.
once. That's tough. But that's really a big regret for me because that, I could have done it
at any point. I could have done it in the school end. I had the same feeling. I was just nervous
to do it and scared to do it. But then when I went to do it, he was dead? Or was he?
What honor. So, anyway, so, hey, good thing about your roommate, huh? How about that?
Yeah, man. Shout out, John.
For those that are new to this show,
this is how a five-hour show used to be.
We play no music.
We come on, 501, something I'd have on a piece of paper.
And I would go, oh, how about this?
Is a shortage in toilet paper?
Shortages, man.
And it'd be an hour of some weird.
And we would just go for five hours.
No music.
Sometimes we'd be like, let's just skip commercials.
We get in trouble for that one.
Yeah.
Or then we play like two commercial blocks back to back
because we'd never get to them.
But that is kind of what this show used to be.
And then it is what it is now.
We have to play a couple songs.
And we have to take commercials
because if we don't, our affiliates, leave us.
And we don't need that.
They don't need to be in the allegory of the cave
right in the middle of it and leave me.
You know what I mean?
So anyway, that's that.
That's the whole story.
I mean, I obviously didn't plan to get there
because that wasn't the idea.
Yeah.
Well, also a takeaway from that for listeners.
Don't punt.
What?
Don't punt.
Go do it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Go for it.
Because you're going to regret it.
Don't punt crap.
If you have something you would like to say to someone, go ahead and say it.
There's never a perfect time for anything.
It's not about saying something.
There's not a perfect time.
You're waiting to have kids?
I'm in perfect time.
That's true.
You'll never be ready.
If you're waiting to get a house because you're not exactly and you don't know when,
there's not a perfect time.
There's not a perfect time.
The perfect time is right now.
Now don't.
do anything it's going to get you.
Rash. Well, not even rash. Don't do anything that is irresponsible.
But if you're like, you know, we could right now, but what we need is for this to, in the
market to, and there's not a perfect time. There's never a perfect time for anything.
Because you can't predict unpredictable things, which I could do another hour on people to
go expect the unexpected. That's the dumbest thing you ever heard. You can't possibly expect
something that's unexpected. Because it's unexpected. Now you can expect for things to happen
that you weren't told we're going to happen. But you
can't expect the unexpected because it's unexpected. And if it's unexpected, there is, you can't get
to the expectation. Anyway, we're done. Yeah. Is that 15 minutes? Do we hit the mark? I had a question,
but I'm scared. Would you like, you want to know what happened to John after he, he, 18. Oh, good.
Got his philosophy degree. Yeah, where's John? He went to the Marines and they became a JAG and now he's a law firm.
That's awesome. Yeah. So shout out John Hodges, good job. Philosophy degree. You guys act like
Yeah.
Something sad.
No, no, wait, wait.
This whole thing started with philosophy degree is one of the worst ones, right?
Yes.
And this dude's a JAG lawyer?
Yeah, but he didn't study the law.
He went to a different route.
You can get any degree than go to law school.
Yeah, he went to the Marines, then he decided, you know, I'm going to become a lawyer.
So then we had to pay for him to go to law school.
You did?
Yeah, he called me up and said, hey, man, I'm going to pay for me to go to law school
because he was in the Marines, so we pay for.
Oh, the government.
Oh, the people.
You didn't.
The taxes.
But that's what, no, no, no.
That's what he told me.
he called me and goes, hey man, I'm going to need you to do me something.
I'm going to need you to pay for me to go to law school.
Oh my gosh.
And so then when he graduated from the University of Nebraska law school, he called me.
He goes, hey, thanks, man.
I got my law degree.
Thank you.
He didn't get the call.
I know.
My taxes too.
I understand.
Then he was a jagging now.
Let me roll through these stories real quick.
Jimmy Allen is going to host New Year's Eve special on CBS.
That's my friend that did that job I was talking about earlier.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
I couldn't do it.
And I was like who they got because I've known for a long time.
Love that it's Jimmy.
That's my dude.
he's going to do a great job
and he performed on it last year
and it's going to be awesome
so I'm not encouraging you guys to watch it
because they weren't really able to meet
my needs
but if you need to watch one
this is the one you watch
Jimmy's going to do a great job
what?
Thought it was going to be me
thought they were going to call
dang they did
a rumor painting of Shakespeare
set to sell for 12 million bucks
a man thinks he has a previously unknown painting
of William Shakespeare
the current owner bought it in 1975 for 400 bucks
leading Shakespeare expert Michael Dobson
says that the idea is a portrait of Shakespeare
is wishful thinking.
And I think that's because we've kind of invented
what Shakespeare looked like.
Yes.
By the way, they don't even know
if there's one Shakespeare
or if it was a bunch of people
or if Shakespeare was a fraud.
Really?
And just stole everybody's work
because there's so many,
it's so derivative of other things.
I can do another hour.
I like that, though.
That's cool.
It's like the telephone game with history.
It is.
And there is a thing,
there's what we remember of Shakespeare
and what they've drawn,
this painting,
and it's a whole thing.
Yeah.
But some people swear on their life
there was no single Shakespeare.
There was a group of, like a troop.
Some people think there was a Shakespeare, but he stole everything.
Or, and some people think there was a Shakespeare, but he was just an idiot.
And they used him for all the really good works.
And they used him as like the mouthpiece of it to be like, I wrote this.
So it was someone who could be the face of it.
That's amazing.
There's a lot of theories about that.
A doctor, doctors seeing more pickleball injuries.
Nothing serious, but just people are playing more, so they're getting hurt more.
And then vandals freed more than 10,000 minks from a farm in Ohio on Tuesday.
An activist group called Animal Liberation Front may have been behind it.
A lot of minks were killed crossing a road next to the property.
Aw.
That is so ironic.
A little weird cats.
Mink coats.
Yeah, they're not cats, but I'm just visual.
Like little ferret.
It's like they've got the fur and...
Boots with the fur.
I mean, I guess they were going to die anyways.
Yeah.
Fair is a good thing.
A ferrette with a cat fur.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Amy, what was your question real quick?
If we have to go?
You said you had one?
Oh, yeah, no.
We'll be here.
About philosophy?
No, no, hit it.
I'm not an expert.
I just tell you what I'm...
Go ahead and what is love?
No, I've enjoyed everything that you said.
Are you going to ask you, are any modern day philosophers?
Oh, my God.
Lizzo?
Why, man, great.
I think Lizzo says some really in-depth stuff.
And yeah, it's...
In her fun little songs.
She's catchy and she's songs.
And she's songs.
and Lizzo's awesome.
But yes, there are some modern-day philosophers.
Okay.
I think Lizzo is quite remarkable.
People love her.
Yes.
That's it.
Go ahead.
What was your question real quick?
I think it was about the unexpected.
It was more so like,
can you expect the idea and be open to the unexpected?
Could that be what it's saying too?
No, it says expect the unexpected.
Okay.
You can't.
It's unexpected,
but you can expect things
that you had no idea we're going to happen.
You can't expect.
Okay.
That's how you want to say it.
Yeah.
You can't run fast slow.
What?
No, you can't.
Can you run fast slow?
No.
Can you expect unexpected?
No, because it's unexpected.
The idea of the unexpected?
You can expect the idea, but you don't know what it is.
Right.
You can't expect the unexpected.
You can't run fast slow.
Right.
Okay.
I just like the idea of being open to the unexpected.
Can you talk about this stuff.
Turns me on.
I'll be honest with it.
Okay, let's go.
Not in that way.
Not in that way.
Not in that way.
All right, we're out of here, see you guys.
Okay, bye.
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With Air Tasker, you can check off anything on your to-do list.
Okay, today's list, pick up the cat, get my nails done, drop off the brownies for the fundraiser,
and add fixed windshield to the list.
The palm tree just fell on my car.
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From errands to emergencies, post your task, set your budget, and let local taskers help you out.
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Wait, this is a soda?
Yeah.
And it has protein?
10 grams.
No sugar?
Zero.
And it actually tastes good?
It's Skypop.
Skypop protein.
Soda delivers the refreshing taste you want from a real soda.
Criss and delicious with 10 grams of complete protein, zero sugar, and just 45 calories.
So you're not choosing between great taste and real benefits.
You're getting both in every SIF.
Skypop protein soda, reach for the sky.
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