The Bobby Bones Show - THURS PT 2: A Celebrity Ate Their Placenta + MacKenzie Porter and Jake Etheridge (aka "Thelma & James") On Marriage And Touring With Luke Combs

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

We start talking about the average number of days that Americans get a good night sleep that Bobby would kill for.  Bobby also talked about a clip that went viral from the BobbyCast about a celeb eating their placenta. Then, Husband-and-wife duo MacKenzie Porter and Jake Etheridge better known together as Thelma & James stop by. Bobby talks to them about music, marriage, and how they make it all work. They share the story behind the duo’s name, how they first met through songwriting, and what it’s like creating music together after 12 years as a couple. MacKenzie talks about balancing her music career with acting on the hit TV franchise 9-1-1:Nashville including the intense 15–16 hour filming days and how she landed the role of a doctor on the show. Bobby competes against Amy and Eddie in another round of Name the Celebrity on your head! Can you figure it out before they do?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, what do you have over there? Well, so I feel like with all our information when it comes to sleep, we should be sleeping better, right? Yeah, I understand why you would say that because we're learning more scientifically about it, but at the same time we're now getting way more anxious because of everything else. I hear you.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I guess that's a good point. It's like, oh, we're learning how to sleep, but the world is falling apart. Yeah, because I saw a study from mattress firm saying that Americans only get 10 perfect night's sleep a month. That's 10 out of 31. So basically a third of the month, you're getting good sleep. When you hear that, do you think that's good or bad? I don't, I mean, I think it's sad if we think that's good.

Oh, if I were to get 10 good night. And I get it, guys, I'd cut off a pinky. If I knew, if a pinky toe, not a finger. You'd cut off. a pinky toe for a third? For 10 good nights, asleep a month for the rest of my life. Well, for the next five years. Yeah, I just don't, I don't sleep well. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I guess you're probably not the best person to talk about this because you're like, oh, wow. No, I really was like, would you 10? That's great. That's good. I just ordered an eye mask to put

over my eyes at night because I realized some lights are coming through my windows that even if I don't have blockout curtains, but even if I did, I feel like it would still peek through just the way the light comes in. And I ordered the mask. So we'll see if that helps improve my sleep. Because I think it's finally I woke up and I was like, I think this is disrupting my sleep or keeping me from going as deep as I would. I have a pretty good mask. The problem is by the time I fall asleep with it on, I wake up and like it's just wrapped around my head. I feel like I'm going to choke myself to death or choke on. I just, it's just somewhere.

I just move all over the place when I sleep. I go through seasons and there are times, and I'm back on trying to have to take Xanax to fall asleep at night sometimes. And so now it's gotten so bad where I will take it and it can get my heart rate down. And then I keep like a crumbull of one next to my bed and I wake up and I know I'm not going to back to sleep, and I just take another one.

A crumble one. A crumble. I don't like that, but also I have to be, I have to let go of the fact that medicine isn't controlling me because I have hyper awareness of it. But I don't even like to take medicine because I'm like, nothing controls me. Nothing. People, medicine, nothing. But what sucks is for me is this happens about once every year for about a month and a half

or so. I'll go through something and I just can't sleep because something's happening in my brain. And the hardest part is like not taking it. It's a rough couple weeks once I have to. to like get off of taking it because I just do not sleep at all and I feel miserable and I come in here and I'm like, ugh. Do you take magnesium? Yeah, but I don't feel, it makes me feel weird. Really? Yeah. And even like the Unisome now, I take that and that's over the counter. It's over the counter. And I was taking that for a while and I couldn't even get my, I felt terrible in the morning. Like,

I could not snap out of it. Yeah, that's how I am with melatonin. I can't take that. But I can take magnesium. Like I have a little powdered drink that I love. It's kind of a chocolate flavored. But the problem is now I wake up and I have to pee because I'm drinking the powdered chocolate and magnesium to go to sleep. No power of chocolate and magnesium after 4 p.m. Right, guys? That's the rule. It is the rule.

Yeah. We have to wear a diaper. Man, hey, that ain't a bad idea. I just would feel weird being in a wet diaper, but sometimes do you ever do the fight where it's like, I know I need to get up. Or just pee on myself? No, or just like. No.

No. I just seem like I hold it and I can go back to sleep. And there's no way. You're like, I might as well just get up now. Because I'm just prolonging the inevitable. Just a battle. I know. In my Bobby cast with Danica McKellar, she played Winnie Cooper, and we talked about a lot of stuff on it.

And what has oddly went viral, I was not expecting. Like People Magazine picked it up, et cetera. She was talking about when she had her son. And, you know, there are a lot of people who say, you know, somehow ingest the placenta. And I thought it was for guys too. Remember that? I was like, I thought guys ate it too. You're not.

But some people will, like, turn it into a pill cup. So this is the part that went viral. My doula said, do you want to taste the placenta? Like, I'd just given birth. And I'm like, sure. I mean, you're not even, you're not in your right mind. She gave me a piece of it. Bobby, it was like the best filaminion that I have ever tasted.

Like, but more. I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed about how much I loved it. It was bizarre. I thought, what is this some sort of weird, like, satanic, like, Am I a cannibal? Am I a cannibal? Am I a, we are meant to have that.

And we went on, and she was talking about how, upon her further knowledge of it, and just things that we eat that tastes good in general, it's because our body needs it sometimes. Like, whatever it is, it's perfect for our body at that time, and it has a great taste to it because our body actually needs it. And she was like, it tastes weird to say, but it tastes so good. You heard her say that. Yeah, I mean, I can't.

I'm really curious. Like I won't ever, unless I have a baby, I won't ever get to experience that. But if I were to randomly get pregnant and be able to do that, I think I would eat it based on her review. Like, how could that taste like a steak? Like, she just sold me on it. She's the greatest placenta influencer. Yes. Yeah.

But she even said, this is going to sound weird and it sounds weird now. So there was no part of her that was going, you must do this. Yeah, no. She goes, you're not going to believe this. This is what happened. And this was my. My reaction to it while it happened. It's crazy.

That podcast you can listen to. It may even be up on this feed today. Does that feed? Or this week? This week, yeah. Yeah, so, but you can go to the Bobbycast feed and listen on podcast or watch on Netflix. But yeah, that's what went viral from that. Something doesn't always go viral.

But, you know what's crazy about listening to her talk? I can still hear Winnie Cooper. Like, just the way she says certain words, it's almost like she's talking to Kevin. You know, like that's strange. Yeah, she has a distinct place. She also still kind of looks like Winnie Cooper. Did you tell her that you had a crush on her? No.

But I did say, is it weird when guys come up to you and go, you were my childhood crush? And she was very diplomatic about it. She was like, no, I'm just happy. But a little bit, I guess it depends on the guy. Right, right. For sure. No, I was also a little timid about going right into the wonder of your stuff.

Because, again, some people, when they're famous as a kid, they don't just want to always talk about that, but she was super generous. But you can check it out. That one's up, and then today a new one's up. Tom Bergeron? Yep. We, you know, have our beef out. What's it called?

Squash our beef. Squashed the beef? We squashed the beef. That's what you say. Oh, okay. We squashed the beef because, remember when he came at me? Oh, yeah. And I was like, FU, and then we fist fight?

None of that happened. None of that happened. But we did kind of get into it. But that's the Bobby cast that is up to date. Let's go! On the Bobby Bones show. now. Phelma and James.

All right, let's welcome Thelma and James to the studio. This is confusing for me. But Thelma and James is here. The artist is here. Okay. McKenzie Porter is, you have to talk to me about the name Thelma and James, McKenzie. So please. Please tell me.

So really when we started the project, it all happened super, super fast. And we had written a verse chorus together, and that's it before we got a record deal. Who's we? Me and my husband, Jake. Got it. Yes. And so we got a call from Big Loud, which was my record. company being like, we also want to sign your duo because you wrote this verse chorus.

And they're like, what's the name of the band? And I was like, um, we have a name. Let me call you right back. And so we're like, what's your name? Oh, so you didn't have a name. No, we weren't even trying to be a band. We just wrote a song together one night. It was, yeah, it was three days after a verse chorus. Yes. Wasn't it the first time? I mean, there's just what I picked up from the story. Super fan Amy over here. Well, I, what, what seemed so organic and cool about it is as husband and wife, you're both musicians, but you had never tried to write anything together and this was your first attempt at it and it was like magic. It's, it's kind, we hadn't written a song in 10 years. Oh 10 years. We met song writing and then we

stopped. Okay. We just like dated and got married and had a baby and yeah. So a 10 year hiatus and then bam. Yes. You never wrote anything? We like he would write a song and I would maybe like edit his song or he would edit mine or like you know. But not not in an official sense. Really? Never a song. What was the verse chorus? It was a song called Happy Ever After. you. Do you guys still know that one? Yeah. Oh yeah. Because I mean we're just rolling here. Yeah, they do. That was, yeah, retuned. That was the first one we, can I tell you how I, because obviously McKenzie and I have met before and we have like real life mutual friends. And I saw, because your hair wasn't as dark when I used to know you. Yes. And then I saw a video of you two

on TikTok singing together and I was like that, that doesn't look like Thelma. That was McKenzie, and so it was you two, and then all this kind of happened. It all happened, like, yeah, the name change. I mean, so back to the name change, Thelma is my middle name. And Jake's real name is James, legally. Yes. So that's where the name came from. So nobody can make fun of us.

If we were like the wild stallions. Oh, yeah, I hate great reference. You know what that is? Do you know what? Wild Stallions is? No. Bill and Ted's excellent adventure? Wait, you didn't know that?

You just said Wild Stallions? No. I haven't seen Bill and Ted's all the way through. You just randomly said one of the greatest fictional rock bands of all time and didn't know was a fictional great... I didn't even know it was a rock band. No, yeah, yeah. Bill S. Preston, Ted Theodore Logan.

Oh, my gosh. That's where. Okay. That was the runner-up name for us now. Yeah. Okay, do that verse and chorus that kind of started it all, right? Okay. Oh, I'm sorry.

We can't post the live performance on the podcast. Dang, that's awesome. Thanks. And so you guys didn't write the rest? You literally just wrote that? Well, it was just one night I was like... Well, it was 9 p.m. when we started, okay? There was, we weren't trying to be a band.

We were just like, we haven't written, let's write tonight. I was having a bum night, and I just wanted to write a song. Yeah. He was the closest person to write song. And so he wrote it and, like, next day, put it up on TikTok, you know. Did it do the thing where it popped and you were like, oh, holy crap. Yes. Well, we popped that afternoon.

Yeah. It was doing like, it was doing okay. It was, we woke up that morning. Yes. We woke up with Bowen. Millionaires. Yes. And we're like, hey.

You woke up millionaires. Yeah. Or at least like tens of dollars. So then your same label signed you twice? Yes. That's pretty cool. Well, then how do they decide which one they want to do what? Well, right now we're definitely focusing on our project.

I think I'll put out a single as like McKenzie eventually again. But this seems to be working. We're having fun and I don't know. It just feels good. So we're just riding it. So they were on the cruise and they were performing on the cruise and how this, the real version of it works is that it's weird to call you McKinsey it's Thelma I don't know no I don't go by Thelma I know that but I'm just saying it's like but

then people are like who's McKinsey you're talking to Thelma and J so McKinsey who aka Thelma again I have a very close friend in my life that she is very close with that friend and I text my friend and I was like hey I only met her once she cool like like real like real life cool because there's a version of like Nashville you know you see somebody cool or they like real life cool where you could like trust them She was the coolest. I said, okay, so I got McKenzie's number, and I texted her. We were on the boat.

And they were like, hey, you should promote that Thelma and James are playing. And I was like, okay, I'll just text them. And I was having real trouble with the crowd because this woman got really drunk. Yeah, yeah. And so I thought, we had played a bunch of songs. I said, let's get somebody good down here. And I'm promoting you guys at the same time. So you guys came down and you crushed it.

It was amazing. And I became the biggest Delman James fan about all the shirts. And so I went up and watched you guys a show on the boat. And then I told Scoob, I was like, we have to get them in, like, as soon as we come back. And so you guys spent a week on the boat. We spent, we just got off. Yeah. I'm just losing my sea legs right now.

Actually, that day on the boat, we talked about, we have a present for you, about something we chatted about on the boat. Oh, is it something that makes the baby poop? Yeah. I mean, depending on what you have for lunch, you could help you out later. Oh, I know we talked about. We even took a picture. This was the funniest part of it. We were going to take a picture.

I was like, hey, let's take a picture. And this guy's like, I got it. I'm a great picture taker. And it was maybe the worst picture I've ever seen of all of us. Terrible. He didn't have an air of confidence that made me think it was like, dude, I got this picture. He worked on the boat. He was like, he was doing angles, like flash, like,

like covering some of the flash with his hand. It was the worst picture that could have been taken. It looked like something they took when they put the thing over their head. Like old days? Yeah, old days when they pulled it. It kind of looked like a 90s like Game Boy, when the Game Boy Snap had it anyways. So I posted it and I was like, here's me and Thelman and James, kind of. And so, yeah, that's...

We're much better looking than that. All of us. Let's see what I got here. Now, that's a classic. So that's classic. Okay, this is Sophie La Giraff. Yes. If you have kids, you probably know.

It's the best chew toy. And then... Now, this next one, the application on this next one, this is priceless. This is the one that Jake was telling me about. He said, you should stick this in the baby's butt and then the baby poops when the baby won't poop. You get a nice little whistle. It whistles first and release... It does. It's like a tornado warning. It's like something's coming. Oh, so on the air comes

it. It's like a tea kettle. So you know it's done and it's ready to go. And let me tell you that sometimes it's delayed. So like the first time we use it on our daughter, you use it if they're like constipated. And we use it on our daughter and it whistled and I'm like, okay, nothing's like happening, whatever. So I kind of like stand her up. Bam, all over. It is like sprayed on the wall. It was very messy. So just a couple of seconds delayed. You brought your daughter on the cruise. We did, yeah. And how did that go?

It was good. She became everybody's friend. We were swimming in the ocean in Bimini, and somebody got in the water, and they go, hi, Bowen. And I was like, oh, hi. They knew her. They didn't know me. She's just a little socialite. Like, she loves being out in public, more than the two of us do.

So she's definitely a little extrovert. How did you guys meet? Songwriting, yeah. So we met songwriting, and then quit songwriting. Was it a good song you guys wrote the first time together? I don't think so. All the Kings horses and all the Kingsmen. That was the title.

You guys wrote that nursery rhyme? Yeah. You wrote Humpty Duncan? Holy crap. We made so much money we stopped. That was a line within it, but I can't remember the rest of it. It was with Jake's ex-girlfriend's fiance's house. Very weird.

That's too many layers. I know. Who is Rodney Atkins? Yeah. It was weird. That's how he met. Well, congratulations on meeting. I think it's going to work out for you guys.

That's cool. What do you, and I hope this is not too much to ask. So people may know McKinsey from an, a number one song with Dustin Lynch. Do you guys play that song? No. We will play it for it. But you don't play it normally?

No. No. You played it that? We played it that night because I felt like... I wouldn't have asked it had I not seen you play it. I was doing it like, I don't know if I can do this. Oh, no, no. We played it on the ship, I guess that was the first time just because I felt like that

crowd would like know it. But not in our shows normally. I mean, we've had five shows. We're about to go on tour and we've played five shows together. This is like show number six, man. Oh, yeah. The guarantee for the show, not very good, guys. Do you care?

Will you play it? No, of course. We will definitely do it. We kind of worked up a little like Thelman James version of it. I love that even better. So Thelman James is here. And so McKenzie Porter

and Dustin Litch had this song thinking about you. And so if you guys don't mind playing it, here they are. Thelma and James, everybody. That was awesome guys. You know they're so good. Thanks.

Thanks. It's like the Emo sad version of it. I like Emo said everything, though. Like the only music that I literally listen to is sad stuff. I told Kenny Chesney, I don't like Beach Chesney. I like sad, Kenny.

Like all, I like when I can just, like, know the lyrics and feel miserable. Me too. Yeah, yeah. Sad songs make me happy, Baddy Griffin. Yes. And the song I probably listened to most in my life, two songs. Everybody Harts R.A.M. Round here, County Crows.

How sad is that? Oh, around here. That was an S&L thing they did that blew them up, right? Well, sort of. So they went and they wanted to, S&L wanted them to play Mr. Jones first. And they were like, nah. and they almost left and didn't do the show at all and then they went on to play around here instead.

Yeah, is that the YouTube video? I make her watch that YouTube video probably like once every three months so maybe every quarter. I'm like, hey, have you seen this gnarled up VHS footage of this round here? Are you a County Crows fan? Yes.

My favorite band? Yes. We just become best friends. Yes. But I hadn't seen that video until last year actually. It's a cool story and they almost got kicked off and I like that. Okay, you have a degree in audio engineering?

Is that true? It's not a degree. It's a like certificate. What's a difference? I got a certificate in CPR and I call a degree. Oh. Yeah. Then I have a degree. Yeah, I have a degree in CPR. We did baby CPR. You did. Yeah. And, you know, that's crazy. Did you do the other classes like the, you know. Which one? What's it? What else do we did? Yeah, we do like, I did a scodling. What's it called?

Swaddling. Swaddling. Don't scottling. Don't scottling. Don't squattling class. It was a whole class where it was like swaddling. I did a diaper change. I learned that you put a diaper below before, before, before you. you change. Do you guys do that technique? Oh yeah. Well, you better. Yeah, well, that's when the windy, you got to get that extra diaper. It's a whole scenario. So we did that that thing. What's your, what's your advice?

I always have a wipe in hand. At all times? He pulls on one now. What's our advice? I don't know. I thought it was a changing diaper advice. That's what I thought. No, just baby in general. I think lean into the mic.

I mean, everybody. Everybody always says this, but like every phase is so fast. And I feel like if it's like a frustrating phase, like the sleeping or whatever, it goes by so fast. Like that it's not that bad, I think. And if your wife is breastfeeding,

the lactation place at St. Thomas, chef's kiss. Yeah, shout out to the St. Thomas lactation ladies. Yeah, they're awesome. Do you just go by on like a Wednesday or like a restaurant? You bring him on Wendy's number five.

It's like swinging by true food, go by for lactation. So are you guys going on with Luke Combs? Yes. I think so, yes. We started our first rehearsal today. That's cool. How'd that happen?

We're still not quite sure. Okay, well, wait, if my memory is serving me correctly here, when y'all posted your first snippet, he was one of the comments that was like, this is amazing, right? He was there. Like, in the comments. He wasn't, like, physically there. No, he wasn't physically there. In my heart. Yeah, but I felt like, I think when it popped up on my thing and then, yeah, you could go through and see, like, all of the artists in town that were.

like praising the song. I felt like I was like, oh, yeah. He was the first, like, big artist, or I think maybe the first, yeah, artist to comment, and then he commented on the next video. And it was like a funny joke. I'm like, is Luke going to comment on this one? And then he just reached out to our team and asked.

Wow. Yeah. How organically cool. Yeah, it was. We still haven't met him. No, we, but like, when I say, like, the first stadium tour in two weeks in Vegas, we'll be like our sixth show together.

Well, rest assured, he's great. Just as a dude. And like he looks out for people. So you'll love that. Did I ever comment any of them? Because I don't comment on much. If you don't remember, then I didn't. I don't think you did.

Thanks a lot. I know I comment in my heart in my head, but I don't, I have a trouble liking and commenting on stuff. Just generally. I do like internally. I don't think I saw your. I know, I don't.

Amy, you did. I think you have definitely. I don't think I saw it either, Bobby. No support. I'm going over now. I think there's something here. Someone should sign them. Be like, y'all should record them.

This should be a thing. A year later, yeah. How long has I married? Seven years. We've been together, yeah, 12 and then married seven. You've been together 12? Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, you guys have really been together.

We've been cooking. We're in it. We're in it. We've been cooking. Yeah, we've grown up together. Do you guys have any sort of boundaries on music or home, or do you just? Well, we used to. I think back in the day, yeah, it was all right.

We'd just listen to each other songs and then be done with music for the day. I think it's easier now because we do work together. we go to work and then we come home and we quit working whereas before we might bring work home yeah no real boundaries though I bet it's great to be an artist together though with a baby because the baby can go with both it definitely helps it's like

she also knows all the songs now because she hears them a lot yeah we were in the restaurant the other day and our song came on and she heard it before we even noticed and she's like mama dada it was really cute I think you just skipped the headline you're at a restaurant your song came on that's awesome yeah that's like the first sign What was it? It was Mitchell's Deli.

Mitchell's Deli. He snatched for it. That's awesome. It was pretty cool. Yeah, that's one of those moments where you're like, holy cow, like something's happening. Yeah. Like, who knows what it is, but something's happening. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.

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We got a brand new spanker. Then do the spanker. We were just talking. We were like, if they do the spanker, we're going to leave happy. There we go. Here's Thelma and James. The name of it is, if you ain't loved by now. Say it again.

If you ain't loved by now. There you go. God dang, you guys are so good. That's crazy. Yeah, you're so good. Thank you. Sometimes I lie, but not that hard. Sometimes I'm like hey how about that

You guys are really good That's really cool Thanks man thank you Are you doing the Nashville 9-1-1 show? Yes that's why my hair's dark So yes I play the like main doctor on the show And they were like She can't be blonde

She has to be brunette Well she's Nashville's best doctor Yes I can do lots of surgeries I've saved a lot of lives If you guys need anybody I'm a girl actually There's like one funny scene I was doing like an open

cavity, like the whole chest cavity surgery. And they're like, okay, you're going to grab out the, what was it, the kidney? I forget. Something out of like... Hey, now good for a doctor to forget. I'm going to be honest with you. Well, it gets worse. They're like, top left just like take out, what was it?

I can't remember. Some organ. Take out the top left organ and like, you're going to be like, I got the kidney. And I was like, got it. So I do it. And it's like a whole prosthetic piece. There's blood everywhere. It looks pretty, normally. It looks really cool.

I go reach it out. I'm like, I got the kidney. And they're like, McKenzie, that's the heart. put it back, grab the kidney. I was like, I'm sorry about that. So you don't maybe want me as your doctor, but. What is your name on the show? Samantha.

And how has that been? It's been really fun. It's been like, I mean, the cast is awesome. I have a husband on the show. He's awesome. It's just been amazing. Man, why did you have to have the husband in there? I know.

And that he's awesome. She could have just like completely left out. You like him. You've met him. Yeah. He's pretty awesome. Hey, that's even worse. You've met him.

Yeah. How did you? How did you get that job? I've been acting for a long time. Well, I know that. Okay. I auditioned. You did audition?

Yes, yeah. I audition for it. And they, for a long time, it's like she's top choice, but it was like two months later. I hadn't heard anything. And then finally the next day they're like,

you got it. We're dying your hair tomorrow and you start, you know, in six hours. How long are those days? Long, like 15, 16 hour days. Yeah. And our studio's out in Franklin.

And so like, it's an hour drive there, 16 hours, hour drive back. I should say this. Oh, wow. Because you did Travelers on Netflix? Yes, yeah.

I played a doctor on that show too, so like, I think I'm a doctor. There's a rule. If you do two roles, you're at least a resident. Yes. Yeah, congratulations, guys. You guys are really good. I'll say it again. That's the kind of music I like.

And I don't know if that matters. It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. But you guys play the kind of music I like. And so, yeah, you're both really good. And Jake, where'd you come from? South Carolina. Yeah, go Cox. USC.

Did you go to school there? Yeah. Yeah. Marketing and management degree. Not really using it. But, uh, did you think you would do that? Uh, I think, did I think I would go to school? No, market or manage. I didn't think so. Did you do music the whole time? The whole time. So did you play the, like, bars? Did you Columbia? Yeah, it was Columbia. I had a band. We toured out of Columbia. And that's, we toured to Nashville. And, um, and that's when I fell in love with Nashville. What was the name of the band? Wild Stallions. Please God. Please. Well, actually, when I met Lewis, I was in that band. It's called Cherry Cake.

But that's a throwback. I mean, that's throwback to college for sure. So nobody's going to know the name of that band. Did you guys do covers or your originals? I was all originals. Whenever you moved here, were you still thinking Cherry Case can make it? That was still the plan. Some of the band members came with me. That was the idea. I stuck with that for a couple years before not. Why not? It was just not the identity. I was writing every day. I was the only guy in the band writing every day, playing writing rounds. So it was just what I was doing wasn't really identifying with what a band was. Was there a time when you thought I'm now really going to focus on the publishing, the writing part of it?

Or were you always in your mind, maybe I'll be Jake, maybe I'll be Jane. Who knows, but were you still in your mind thinking somehow maybe an artist, like a solo artist? I think I was just trying to do whatever I could. So I was writing a lot and then I got in a band over in Holland for about five years. The country? Yeah, out of Amsterdam. Oh. So.

Interesting. Yeah, it was a pretty big side I thought he meant like up the street and hall Me too I was like I don't know Holland Tennessee I know Annie on I don't know Holland They're like open for like Well then in the Netherlands Yeah we did

Yeah we yeah we in in Europe We were a thing So that was a sidebar What was the name of that band It's called the common linets You're in the common linens I'm just kidding I never heard of you I'm just kidding

I was like there's no way I was like there's no way That's you Wait so you did you move over there and then start Or did you move over there I don't understand. What made me think of it?

Because you were talking about What did I do? I was writing a lot and then I was writing with Rob Crosby who's a writer in town and he had been writing for Ilsa DeLong

who was a Dutch artist for years. Anyway, she heard some songs we wrote decided to have me help write the record for her new side project which was the common limits

we all, me and a group wrote the record and then when the record came out we all became the band. They were in Eurovision and stuff You did Eurovision?

Yeah, that band, and they got second place. We lost the conchita. No way! The bearded woman. Eurovision's crazy. And the thing is, is I wasn't quite, I was in the band right after Eurovision. So, right. Wait, so you didn't do Eurovision?

I didn't do Eurovision. Okay, I retract my, I retract my excitement. Yeah, I thought you were in that one. He wrote it, though. I wrote the song. There's some things I won't speak about. We weren't in the band until about a week after Eurovision happened, just because some stuff went down. So like all the hoopla after Eurovision, I was waiting tables at Carrabas.

He also called me at 2 a.m. He said, hey, can you be in Holland in a week? Or to tour? I was like, yes. And then by the end of that week, I was on a German flight. And the man was reading the newspaper. And he reached over me and he said, hey, he says, you're on the front page. And there I was.

And then I came back home and waited tables again. Did you guys do Broken But Home? Yeah. How do you know that song? Are you kidding? How do you know that song for real, though? Oh, Google. I just love you.

You suck, man. You suck. We all fell for it. That's such an interesting story, though. That's an interesting musical life that you have lived. That's some fast Googling. Yeah, man. Also, very secret.

That's what I'm known for, McGahnsey. Fast Googling. That's super cool. So you came back to Nashville. Did you ever think about staying in Holland and doing music? I still do. Yeah. I'm kidding.

Thanks. No, not really. We were dating. We were together. Oh, got it. Yeah. Did you ever go to Holland to see him? Mm-hmm.

Yep. That's cool. I guess just one time. Just one time. Yeah. Because you were filming travelers the whole time. Yep. Yeah, you guys have an interesting story.

Both of you guys do. And you're both, here's the, this is the true thing and the odd thing. You both are really great vocalist. Oh, thank you. A lot of times, you know, somebody had, there are roles, but you guys both could sing leads. And I think it's like very Lady Aish with Charles and Hillary. But yeah, you guys are really good. Amy, anything for them?

I thought I've been glazing on for my now. I just keep telling them how good they are. No, I love that they're in here and that was great. Okay. We've covered pretty much everything. You think so? Yeah. You should introduce.

This is also one of our best friends. This is one of our best friends. He's also producing us. His name is Louis Johnson. He goes by Lowness. Hey, or Lou Daddy. Is that true? Is it Lones? Is they really call you that?

I didn't call you Lones when I met you. That's my artist project. Really? My production name. Yeah, Lewis Johnson is fraught with lots of other producers and musicians. naming the famous bassist that played with like, you know, Jackson 5 and... Of course, I knew that. They may not, but I'm glad you told them.

Yeah. He was like Quincy Jones bass player, Lewis Johnson. So a lot of my credits go to him. So I go by Lones to help ease that pain. One and only Lones. Well, you guys are phenomenal. Congratulations on going out with Luke. Congrats on having a great song.

How's the song going? Like, what's... It just came out, so we're just kind of like, you know... Just waiting? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Twitter on our thumbs, yeah, crossing our fingers. It feels good though. We like it an awful lot. You know, we'll see. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. I'm still undecided, but I think by the end of the day, I'll give you guys feedback on if I think it's good or not. Beautiful.

No, it's awesome. I'll look out for that comment. Yeah, just send like a thumbs down in our comment section or thumbs up. Thelma and James, you guys go, Thelma and James music on Instagram, but what is it on TikTok? Same. I think it's same thing. I think it's the same, yeah.

Thelma and James music on TikTok. It's where I first discovered them and commented on their song and I was like, man, this song was great. Really happy for you guys. Thank you for coming to play the show today. Thanks for having us. And hopefully we'll see you guys soon. No, there are Thelman James, everybody.

Thank you. Thank you. Okay, here's Amy and I with another edition of Name That Celebrity. We're both wearing names of celebrities on our heads and we have to guess by asking yes or no questions. We're trying to get the celebrity on our own head. First one to name the celebrity on their head. Ready?

Ready. Go first. Am I a woman? No. Am I a man? No. So we're both. Am I married?

No. Single man. Am I over 40? Yes. 40 plus woman. Yeah. Oh, to me. Am I an actor?

No. And I'm giving you the direct answer. Last time I got some crap, because... Well... If there's nuance, I'll tell you there's nuance. Okay. Okay. No. No.

Am I in music? No. Am I in music? No. What? Am I an actor? Yes. So I'm a 40-plus female actor.

Okay. I'm a man not married. Am I an athlete? Yes. Am I mostly known as a movie star? Yes. I think I got it. No.

I think I got it. No way. I think I got it. This is way too soon. Go ahead. Have I ever been married? Yes. I'm a divorced athlete.

Am I going to the Paltrow? No. Damn. Is there a punishment for guessing and not? No, it's just my guess. Now it goes back over to you. Okay, so we can do that. Okay.

Is I a quarterback? This game is stupid. This game is so stupid. Like, is that a quarterback? Yes. Okay. So now I have to get it because you know who it is. I don't know for sure.

I only know one divorced quarterback, though. Exactly. Can I come through with the most clutch guess here. So it's a 40 plus actress that's not in music and is known known mostly for Am I Helen Mirren? No. Dang it! Go. I mean, I can drag this out if you want to. If you know it, go for it. Okay. Am I Tom Brady? Yes. Look at it. Okay. Well, I mean, yeah, Tom. Julia Roberts. Oh.

In case you're wondering, Amy had Tom Brady on her head, and I had Julia Roberts on my head, so Amy won again. Okay, here's another round of Name the Celebrity on Your Head. It's Eddie and I play Name That Celebrity. Welcome to the game. Thank you. Guess the celebrity on your head. Ready?

I'm ready. I'll lie. You go first. Am I a woman? No. Am I, man? Yes. Two men. Baddling it out. Am I an actor? No. Not, not, no. Not, no. No, the answer is no. Have you acted a bit? Yeah. But you're not known as an actor. Huh, okay. Do you want nuance like that or no? I mean, no, not from you. Okay. Fair enough. No, you're not an actor. Okay. Am I in music? Yes.

Am I also in music? Yes. Two men musicians. Am I in country music? Yes. Let's go. Am I also in country music? You hit me with it.

You just hit me with the same thing I'm asking you. Well, what if it's the same person? You're the same person. That would be funny. No, you're not in country music. Oh, okay. Okay. Was I big in the 90s?

No. I'm a man. I'm a musician, but not country music. Am I a solo artist? Yes. Am I under 40? I don't think so. No.

Am I a rock star? As in... Rock and roll. Rock star, baby. No. Oh, I'm not? Mm-mm. Huh.

Have I met me? You have met you. Yes. Yes. Okay, I'm not a rock star. What did you say with solo artist? I don't remember that. Am I a rapper?

No. Am I for America? Yeah. Dang it. That goes Keith Urban. Darn it. That's what I was leading toward. All right.

Okay. Okay, he's not a rapper. He's not a country star. He's not a rock star. So he's a pop, maybe a pop musician. Ooh. Hmm. Am I a white man?

Why are you laughing? No. Why is this funny? No. You're not white. Oh! Okay. The room laughing shouldn't be able to give you.

Okay. Hmm. Am I alive? You're alive. As of right now, I think you're alive. Okay, there goes that one. I told me Keith. That's my next guess.

Okay. Am I dead? As of now? As of right now. You're dead. I'm dead? Oh my gosh, I know who I am. Yeah, because the room laughed.

I know where I am. Come on, go. So now I have to guess. You don't know. I might have, dude, I might be totally on the wrong path. Am I? Sam Hunt No

No am I Michael Jackson Yeah Let's go The room laughed on the white joke Hey Because it was funny

The room laughed Oh I was so close You know him Dang it Okay in case You didn't catch it The answer Eddie had Michael Jackson

on his head, I had Luke Brian on my head. All right. Thank you guys for listening tomorrow. Jody Messina. That's going to be awesome. So, and all the normal stuff too. But even on the, if you go to YouTube, what really does well. And I hope you guys listen to the Tell Me Something Good that we do here. But if you ever miss it on the podcast, what really does so good on YouTube, it's unbelievable to me that that's one of our highest performing YouTube videos of us doing our personal, telling me something good stuff every day. I know. It's crazy. So thank you. Have a great day. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye, everybody. A win is a win.

A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement

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