The Bobby Bones Show - THURS PT 2: Amy Brings In Her Gynecologist For Eddie + How Can Eddie Fix His Low T? + Pros And Cons About Billionaires

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

We discussed Jeff Bezos who said the bottom half of earners should pay zero in income taxes. We also talked about a celebrity who is on probation after slapping a fan. Amy brings in her gynecologist to help get to the bottom of Eddie's low T. We find out what is going on in his body, if his T is considered to be extremely low and what he can do to get it up. She also answers all of our medical questions and natural things we can do to feel better.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, I saw this yesterday, and I thought it was cool. At first I was like, is this AI? I am I being tricked. But it really did look like Jeff Bezos. And did you see him saying that if people make, like he used a nurse as an example, a nurse making $75,000 a year shouldn't pay taxes. Yeah, his thing was if you're in the bottom, 50%, you should not pay taxes. But he also did not commit to all billionaires paying even more taxes.

That's what I found to be a little. Like, I'm like, okay, we'll step up. Also, it's very easy to say this because you know it's not going to happen. and I think a lot of these billionaires that aren't using their money in positive ways or finding ways to not pay taxes are now a bet on a promo tour to go, no, we want to, but they're never held accountable to their words because they don't have to be. Oh, so you don't think it's going to happen? I do not.

I don't even think he wants it to happen. Gosh, he sure acted like it was a no-brainer. It could be a no-brainer. but yeah you can just say that it's like when Eddie goes I want to give a kidney to somebody no I really do like somebody and Jeff Bezos wants to lower half of people then I have to pay taxes oh I did see it though and there were some great points made but however the points will never be enforced nor do I think he really wants them enforced

and this is just my opinion yeah it was a clip on CNBC he looked pretty good too he had like hair like facial hair and stuff you look good well he just looked like not evil villain Jeff Bezos And maybe that was part of he wanted to look a little softer because he's going the bottom hat. All this is, everything's manicured with these folks. Like, not even just physically, but what they're saying, they have so many people telling them. But you know what's interesting about him, too, is that he remains bald even though he has so much money. He could probably, like, create the perfect hairdo. I think when you're bald for so long, like completely bald, it's kind of hard to have hair.

Yeah, that would be weird. You can't really launch back in because on this yesterday, he had a little bit of the side hair. which I thought was interesting but to your point maybe he did it to soften himself because it wasn't as like tight and shiny and yeah like evil villain

it was not Lex Luther evil villain and he had a little bit of a goatee beard and so when I saw him saying this my mind automatically goes to why is he saying this? Because I know he doesn't believe it or he could have done something already with his money

the only person who donates that I know from all of his money outwardly and openly is his ex-wife. That's awesome. Who donates millions and millions at a time and so I don't think he wants to be seen as like a bad guy

so if you don't want to be seen as a bad guy say good guy stuff especially when you're never held accountable yeah I guess it's just I mean I don't know if they ever ask themselves this question or if anybody asks it of them like directly but that's what I would be curious about I just want to say like why why when you have how 270 billion dollars which is what he's worth which okay yeah you created

this company, whatever. But like, at what point, enough is enough? Like, why not? Why still skirt around things and figure out how to pay as least as you can or as little as you can? I have a few answers to that that I think is what they would answer. Number one, I do just want to say McKenzie Scott, formerly McKenzie Bezos, has donated over $26 billion to more than $2,000 nonprofit organizations since her 2019 pledge to give away the majority of her wealth. wild. Amazing. That's crazy.

Now to answer your question, I don't think with these billionaires, it's about I could give away all this and it still not affect me. I think it's I need to have more than the other billionaires. And the more I have, the more power I have. If I'm number one, two, or three, imagine the newspapers and Bezos has a newspaper. Imagine the things that you can buy on a large scale

that influences people in a way that you want people influenced. It's a power thing more than it is just having money and not spending it. I understand that. But if all the billioners are held to the same standard of paying the same percentage, towards... But they're not going to be. Yeah. Well, why are we?

Because we don't have enough money. We don't have enough money to pay people like a lobbyist. All right. I get it. I know. I know. Or a politician to create a tax code that says, says A, B, and C, and if you do this, you don't have to pay your taxes because you're creating.

No, I mean, I get it. I'm not above little like, oh, wow, if you do this little loop-de-lou, like you don't have to pay this extra $5,000 or you're going to get this money back. Like, okay, I guess just for them, just so much of the burden or so many things wouldn't have to be canceled or money shifted from one program to the next if they would just like, and it would mean nothing to them. They would still have power. And it still means nothing to them because they don't really know and understand it because they never had to experience it.

Elon Musk has almost $8 trillion. He has over $850 billion. Speaking of what's up with his baby mama? One of them. He has many kids. I know. The one to my Ashley St. Clair? Yes.

So many people. She's now online kind of just giving all the secrets. Claiming some stuff about him. And so many people I see them like, man, I want to believe her in like I feel like she's telling the truth. It just sucks that she was doing a get ready with me while she was telling all this serious information. She's like putting on concealer. And it's like, oh, you know, there might be a little more validity here if we weren't putting on makeup while we were talking about it.

But I believe no one ever until they prove they should be believed. So. Well, so you didn't even believe. Like, I believe maybe his hair and softness got to me. Maybe that's why I thought it was AI. But I believed, like, oh, wow, he really wants to try to figure out a way to implement this for the people that are earning a certain amount. That would be nice, but there would be no reason for him to change what he's been doing for the last 20 years unless there was a real reason for him to change, which is something that would benefit him. Like, there are certain of these guys that have notoriously bad reputations or being bad people.

Like Sam Altman, people say that is a bad dude. Yeah, I just don't think he has any. He has no interest of any humanity at all. It's all about, he's open AI guys. No empathy. Okay. God, I had a good one. I didn't know who that was.

He's the one that's trying to create portals, supposedly. I don't know him. I don't know him. And I don't believe anybody. But it's like 14 people independent say the same thing. I go, well, maybe there's something to it. Or the guy could just be so awesome. Everybody hates him.

Who knows? I know nothing. But I would also say my other point to that. It's not the same. God, it's not the same. But I'm going to say it. It's all relative. People can say that about me. I feel like I try to give and I try to help. But do I have some nice stuff? People would be like, well, if you really cared, you wouldn't even have the nice stuff.

Absolutely. I'm not trying to take away their billions or their nice things. I know, I know. But you are, you want them to give their billions. And I do too. No, I want them to be held accountable to the same standards that we're held to when it comes to paying our taxes. Fair. However, I hate playing devil's advocate for these people. However, they are creating a ton of business in certain areas for people to have jobs, for people. people to, if they don't build these factories and warehouses and have in California. Yeah, you create jobs for all less here and you pay taxes. No, no, no, I don't. It's different. I know it's different. I just, I don't want to even advocate for them because I do think they find so many legal ways to avoid taxes. Sometimes they

make deals and not pay taxes. Movies do that at times. Baseball teams do that at times. We will build a stadium in your city, billionaire, owner. We want to come to your city. We're going to build a stadium, taxes, you guys got to pay for it because we don't want to. People are like, why, why don't you pay for it? You have billions. Oh, do you understand all the jobs it's going to bring to the city? Do you understand what it's going to do economically for the city? That's why you should pay for this stadium for my team. So they avoid, again, paying money out the same way they avoid paying money out if you're a billionaire and you have these Amazon. I saw two Amazon truck this morning just crushing it. And I was like, thumbs up. What do you mean crushing it?

Like working. Deliver. Oh, yeah. grinding away. But I agree with you. I know. It's just. I'm just presenting the perspective of someone who does not have an understanding of what the real world is like. They just know what legally they can get away with and what their goals are and why they can justify not paying taxes because they have created all these jobs for all these people. And that's part of the reason that I have to pay taxes. I think Warren Buffett is the only really rich guy that I kind of think has a little bit of a normal head on his shoulder. could have also been before it was an arms race to have the most money ever to make it high on the list and by rich i mean like these incredibly wealthy like yeah it's very much i give back guy he's very much a guy

who's like i'm gonna die and not leave my kids any money but he also said like i get my kids ton of resources while they're alive to make their own money and yeah okay i get it well i agree with you for the record but i also saw the video and thought ah pr made him grow his hair out a little bit in his face. Yeah. That's why it's probably why for a second. I was like, is this AI? He's good.

He turned good on us. Yeah, this is like not him. There's these, um, this is just made me think another video I saw and this is very much real. But these two girls out of Utah, I don't even know much more than these videos that I saw, but the data centers that Kevin O'Leary is wanting to put up in Utah. And there's these two girls and they, um, work for Democratic campaigns. You can hire them.

But they're normal people. Normal people. They're not Chinese nationals. No. And what was so hilarious is they put together a reel where Kevin O'Leary is doing an interview and he's calling them out by name. It would be like if he was like Morgan Massengill and Amy Brown and these two girls in Utah. But they are Chinese operatives. And then it would cut to them and they're sitting at like a desk at their office.

And they're like, hi. They cannot be more normal people. Yeah. We're Amy and Morgan. I'm Amy. I'm Morgan. And we're not Chinese operatives. We've just lived in Utah.

entire lives. We're very passionate about the fact that this data center doesn't need to come here. 40,000 acres in Utah, larger than Manhattan in New York. Wow. Yeah. And then they start pointing out all the politicians there that are like, hey, fun fact. And they've got Post-it notes to like build their case. And they're like, fun fact, this person that voted this, they own this much land right near the data center. Could be a coincidence. There's so much corruption. It's never been more corrupt. I don't think than right now. Yeah. But these data centers, why people are upset about them is could affect water, could affect the air,

taking up a lot of land, obviously. There is no bigger one than the one they're wanting to put in Utah. I think it's the biggest one. But there's a lot of towns, small towns, that are agreeing to it because of the financial, the positive financial impact without really knowing what's going to happen

environmentally. What's the paper that Beza Zones? Washington Post. Oh. Didn't know that. Because you kind of said that year. Like, yeah, he has his own paper. What have I said, like, the Arkansas Democrat Gazette?

I'm like, wow, he owns that, huh? You'd be like, I don't know that one either. Okay. Lunchbox. Man, there's a guy in Grapevine, Texas, and he has a cyber truck. And there was some people over visiting his neighbors. Like, hey, you guys want to go for a ride in it? He takes him for a ride.

And he goes, you want to see the Wade mode? I guess it can go across creeks and bodies of water. So he drove it out into the... the lake and he went too far and water got into the charging port shut down the cyber truck and they had to be rescued. So it's a Wade mode, maybe not a swim mode? Is there a level of water where it does not work anymore? Yeah, I guess because the water got in the charging port, made it short circuit. So, oh, three feet maybe. Like there's got to be a level. But it is promoted to have a waiting mode. Yeah. That's all. That's crazy. I had no idea. I was like, what I thought he was

just being crazy. But then I read about it. It was like, it's a real thing where you can go across creeks and bodies of water. There is a suspension lift where it lifts the car up a little bit, the truck I guess, to very high to clear obstacles and keep the cabin out of the water. It uses an internal system to pressurize the battery, often referred to as a scuba pack, creating internal pressure to prevent water from seeping into sensitive electronic components. But again, it drives slowly 1 to 3 miles an hour and there's a maximum weight depth of 32 inches, so not quite 3 feet, but yeah. But so my question is, so he gets arrested, right, for going in the water

at this lake. Now, when he files an insurance claim, are they going to deny that? I would think so. So he has the, I don't know how much, a cyber truck's expensive, right? 100 grand. Probably cheaper now, 80 grand, if I'm guessing. So he just wasted $80,000.

Showing off. The Tesla cyber truck starts at 70 grand for the base model. Oh my God. And models that add more around $100,000. But all-wheel drive, $81 to $99,000. You know, I'm very thankful. I like to. I have a moment of thankfulness here.

I'm glad I didn't buy a cyber truck. Were you thinking about it? When it first came out, I flirted with it because I thought, man, Tesla's, they charge so easy in so many places. And I kind of love the electric vehicle thing. Uh-huh. And then it got real dushy real quick and I didn't. But yeah, I did think about it. Yeah, I guess for a minute.

It's so cool. Let me tell you. Oh, still? You see a cyber truck? It is really cool. Yeah. And my kids freak out too. I think for kids, it would be cool.

I don't think it's cool to all anymore. You do, though? I still, I mean, that's cool. I will say that. I'm not judging you. No, no, no. Elon kind of ruins it sometimes when I hear him. I'm like, okay, I don't want to buy that.

But just the way it looks, it's like, man, it looks like a tank almost, and it's so cool. And you know how old the guy was that drove it on the lake? You think like a 20-year-old? 70-year-old dude. 70? You know what? I kind of feel like that makes sense, though. Yeah.

Yeah. I figured to be a 20-year-old trying to show off to the neighbors. It's a 70-year-old dude. Or an old dude that didn't quite know where he was. Yeah. Okay, Eddie. So remember I told you guys about that golfer that was late to the big tournament, and so when you're late, there's two-stroke penalty or whatever.

Well, he came out right after all that happened, said, man, I was barely late, but I understand the rules. Like, I wasn't there on time. Whatever. I'm a laid-back kind of person. Well, now he's blaming it on the caddy, and he fired the caddy. He said the caddy told me that, you know, he told me the wrong time. He didn't get me there when I was supposed to get there.

So he fired him. Dang. Let me think about how I feel about this. Have you seen the guy? Do you know what he looks like? Yeah, I watched the whole thing. And he was only a minute late. He was there on the practice screen.

Correct. But if you're one second late, you're one second late, right? So, dude, your caddy is an extension of you. Right. That's why he fired him. But people were there. People there. No, as an extension of him, it's his fault.

Oh. It's his fault. People there said the catty was on the green yelling at him. Say, hey, let's go. It's the golfer's fault. He's blaming that? He fired him. Serino fired him.

I mean, I get it, but like, really, has the cat even like, no, dude, I told you? Doesn't matter. He probably's looking, a little scapegoat. A little scapegoat situation here. Oh, that sucks. Yeah. Where did he finish in the tournament?

He got cut. He didn't make the cut? He didn't make the cut. Because after the first day, he was only two back from the lead. That was the two that he got. I know he didn't make the cut. So this is crazy. So he didn't make the cut, which means that he didn't.

He's embarrassed now. That's what it is. Yeah, because he was plus, he was plus five. after two rounds, the cut line was plus four. Oh, so he fired the caddy after he got cut. Correct. Correct. He maybe wouldn't have fired the caddy.

Okay. So, yeah, he's just... But hurt. Making decisions based off his emotions. I didn't know he didn't make the cut. Yeah, he barely missed the cut. And I found out, too, that when you miss the cut at these big major tournaments, they give you $4,500.

And that's kind of like your... Thank you for coming. For a long time, it was nothing. Yeah. But whenever Liv came and they had to make some new... rules. They were like, okay, anybody that just is in the tournament will make sure they get paid to. Yeah. So, I mean, he came out with a little bit of money, I guess. Didn't pay for his trip. No, or the caddy, really. Because you got to pay for all that yourself. Ah, that's a bad move.

Okay, Morgan. So, Joey Chestnut, he's famous for eating all the foods, doing all the things. Well, he has now also been arrested because he slapped somebody. What did the person do? They got slapped. So he was in a bar in Indiana. It was about 2 a.m. and it looks like based on the security footage that a fan walked up to him, they shook hands, and then the fan said something and chestnuts like demeanor changed. And that's when he slapped the guy across the face. I need to know what the fan said. Yeah. It's interesting. He slapped him. And didn't punch him. Didn't punch him. Maybe you don't want to hurt your hand. Yeah. Because I thought about that too. Really? Yeah. Like if some, if I, I don't know that I would

slap. I think I would go elbow. It's a quick elbow or knee to the nut. I don't want to hurt my knuckles. Slap just seems Weird. I wouldn't even call a slap a fight really. Okay, let me slap you. Well, but that wouldn't be a like we wouldn't You ever watch slap fights? Oh my gosh.

I hate watching those clips. I can't watch those clips. Their whole face goes, mom, so what else? Anything else? So he did admit he was very drunk and he didn't remember the altercation

but when police showed him the surveillance footage he acknowledged that he thinks he took offense to something that that person said. So he pled guilty to a class B misdemeanor battery. And he's on probation for 180 days. Yeah, probation. Does that mean, can he still compete?

Yeah, he has no travel restrictions. Yeah, it just depends what the rules are. Yeah, like, they said that you can still travel. You just stay out of trouble for 180 days. Yeah. All right. Cool. You know, it does kind of make you like tough.

To slap someone in a bar. If somebody messes with you and you pop them one. slapping doesn't make you look tough I don't think so man It depends how you slap If you slap like a B Because slapping also is very demeaning Towards that person

If it's good slap Like if you slap me That means you think so little of me You think that a slap is Like I'm just a little B And you just slapped a B You just slapped a B If you punch me it means

Well you thought I was strong enough To take a punch But also by the slapper If you slap like this That also looks bad But if you're like What are you even doing? Why? You like that?

That slap makes them look like a little punk. You like that. Like, think about that. Oh, you mean like a like a pup. No, I'm talking about, like, let's say, I'm not going to hit you, but let's say it's Eddie. Eddie's like saying something. I'm like, say it again.

I'm a pop you'll pop you want. Yeah, you punk. It's like a pop. You heard me, you punk. Say it again. Boom. Point right at them. Oh, wow.

Like that right there, they look like the little B because they didn't even deserve a punch. They got a slap and they shut up. And so did the guy fight back or he just take the slap? I think he just took the slap. Yeah, there wasn't a fight. Exactly. Little B. Yeah, he is a B.

I will say the one time I got into a fight, it wasn't a slap really, but it was like a back hand. You know what I mean? Like I hit him with the back of my fist. Because you're right, I didn't really want to punch. I never punched anyone in my life. And so I didn't really, I was like, man, I really don't want to punch this guy. So I kind of went backwards. Hit him with the back of my fist.

Well, that's why too, whenever those UFC guys and someone's on the ground, they don't punch with their fist down. They punch hammer. Yes, the hammer punch. Because, again, to punch like this, your hand is at risk. you are going to break your knuckles. And it does kind of feminine when they do it. But that's why when they're going,

like, when they're down on the ground. But that's why, because this doesn't bend or break. Yeah, this, nothing can bend backward or break. This frontward way, knuckles can break,

fingers can break. Did you ever punch someone? No. Slapsed couple people. Really? What's worse? If you backhand undude or like, I don't want a backhand

because it's going to hurt my hand. That's true. I didn't think about it. And also it's not going to be as strong. It's not going to be as quick. I don't know, man. The guy hit, he cried. Seventh grade.

Wow. And then he cried, and he didn't say anything about it. He just, like, just was quiet in class. Didn't say anything. And then the next day, the next class, the principal came and like, Eddie, you talk to you. He told on me to the next teacher. Got slapped. And then he's dead.

What? He died. What? What? No, I think it had cancer. of this life. They get cancer. Oh, Eddie.

I know. I was really sad when I found out, but I mean, it must have been like 10 years ago. Oh. I've never hit anything in the face, anybody or anything in the face. Lunchbox, have you? Yeah, I got in a fight. Seventh grade, this kid in sixth grade, day before he walked by as I was walking out of school and, like, kind of kicked the back of me.

And I turned around and he ran off. So that next morning, I went up to his locker, shoved in the locker and went at it. And then just like little fights with my brother and friends in the neighborhood, like Aaron and Forrest and classic Aaron and Forrest Always Let me say Because you guys are like fighting

And make up right And then Yeah But yeah No no we wouldn't kiss But you want to know Who liked to fight Aaron and Forrest

They could fight They got in a lot of fights And they With each other? Each other or just people Like I mean Why would they fight each other They're friends

I know But you just get mad at each other But dude I'm telling you Taco Cabana Freaking gyms Taka At night Oh

They got rowing You always one spot away From a fight It's Definitely some good fights Great Koso Love the tacos, but man, don't be talking to anybody. Because after about 11 o'clock at Taco Commando, there could be a fight at any moment.

You could be in it. 100%, dude. All right, let's take a break. We'll take a break. Come back in a second. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. IR. Radio.

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In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever. I didn't think I was going to live. I was terrified. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case. Yes, sir.

Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career? Yes, sir. Rape a murder for a child. Just as bad as it gets. I would think so. Evil, wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Crevent and DePippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse,

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Eddie's been dreading this segment because Amy has brought in her gynecologist to meet with Eddie. Guys, I don't need a gynaecologist. About his low testosterone. So who's coming in? So my gynecologist coming in and also her nurse practitioner who has worked very closely with me. She's the one that draws my blood and has given me all my results.

And I went ahead and printed off Eddie's blood work, all the results. Is that legal? She can't do that. No, you had sent it to me. Here they come now. We're on. Hey. Hey, come on in.

Have a seat over here. So, Amy, you gave them. Well, they're holding it. They've got Eddie's paperwork in their hands, and they've reviewed it, and they know what's going on. And, yeah, so this is my team. They've helped me get my hormones on track. There's a microphone right over there beside you, doctor. Great.

Okay. And is it Dr. How do you say your last name? Pascoe. Okay, Dr. Pascoel, like Pascal from Hot Springs, Arkansas. Okay. Okay, and then you are Megan? Yes.

Do I call you? Megan's fine. Okay. I just want to make sure everybody gets their, you know, their due. And Megan, you are a physician assistant. Okay. Amy, now you gave them Eddie's. Is that legal?

I'm really not quite sure. But since Eddie had forwarded it to me. We did this all in the air. Everything was public. I figured. Not the paperwork. Whoa. Like all that was.

Do you not want your help? Yeah, but what was that called my complete blood work? results? Yeah, your total, like, y'all would know what it's called. This is everything. You're complete metabolic profile. It's not everything, but it's pretty much a lot. Yeah. Dr. Pascall, so have you ever worked on a man before? Absolutely. Oh. Now, doctor, why would you work on a man as a gynecologist? Well, we have training in all fields. I was actually, I had my early years. I was a pharmacist. I was also an internal medicine doctor. so I did everything.

Rostate exams, cardiac. Can we get four of those right now? Why you're here? Yeah. Okay, so, Doctor, you saw Eddie's numbers, right? Yes. Low, huh? Absolutely.

I'm wondering. I'm wondering, who is this guy? Where is he? Is he walking? Would you say low or extremely low, as they've said? Extremely low. Oh, even a doctor said it. Extremely low.

Could he be a chick? She's wondering. how he's walking. Yeah, what do you mean? Like when someone has testosterone this low, what's happening in their body? There's a lot that's happening. I'm looking at these other labs to see, is there anything metabolic going on? Is there diabetes? Does he have hypertension? Is he a heavy drinker? Are his liver enzymes? You know, are they out of whack? And they're not. So his liver looks good. Hey, that's a bone. That's good. That's good. I'm not a heavy drinker, so that's good. Yeah. And what about?

diabetes. I have history, family history of diabetes, but I'm fairly good. I'm a little suspicious here because I'd like to know when the sugars came back, I don't know if you were fasting or not. I was not. And here's what the guy that took my sample said. He's like, hey, when you get these back, don't look at the glucose numbers because. Well, depends on when you ate too.

Yeah, I had just eaten a bar. So the sugar is, that's appropriate if you've just eaten. Ding! There's two. Love it. Okay. So, Megan, what did you think? You saw the numbers.

What do you say? I am in the same boat with Dr. Pascal. Just wondering how you're living your day-to-day life and still upbeat and happy. That's what he said. He said he would wake up guys and he would be like dreading going in because he was so exhausted from the moment that he opened his eyes. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at all. Lunchbox, this isn't funny, man.

It has nothing to do with four kids and mostly has to do with it's happening in his body. Well, see, that's what most people think. And it's interesting, Meg and I were having this conversation. I take care and has no implications of Eddie whatsoever, but I've been able to see a lot of men in the last 10 years because I was working with addicted women, pregnant women. And so they brought their significant others in. And so I've continued to see men also throughout the years. And here's the crazy thing that I've noticed is across the board men and women, they have the same symptoms when they're hormones. are off. Obviously men, we're dealing with testosterone alone, but decreased energy, fatigue,

pseudo-depression, focusing ability. I've had psychiatrists now that are sending patients to see me, which is hilarious because the antidepressants, anti-anxiety, ADHD medications, they're like, well, I don't like the side effects. It's not treating them. They're bottoming out. They're not getting the results. And I thought, wait a minute. These guys are just, just like my hormonal patients. Why don't we just check their labs and see what's going on? And it turns out? Low tea.

Low tea. So I started thinking, wait a minute. We are misdiagnosing so many patients and not getting to the bottom of the root of it. Which is? Low T, but then also, Meg, what else did we look? Coupled with the low vitamin D. Sunshine? That's the sun.

or do we need to supplement sunshine with like actual No well that's what I do I end up supplementing patients His D is 20 His D is 20 Yeah what do you think it should be Your D is 20 Wow

You said the libido is high 20 out of what doctor That's a little D that's a little D Okay I'm glad wait somebody just said Like we've been talking about this Like Eddie swears with his numbers That his libido's still high Is that possible? He's like it's through the roof

He brags about it Is that possible I'm not lying about that? With his little D, is there any way his libido? You know, it just depends. And a lot of things control libida, not just testosterone. So he could be very well to him. Okay.

Okay. Thank you, Doc. So if he has. But there's so many other benefits, though. I mean, you've just told me, no energy. Yeah. It's like peaks and valleys, right? Like early in the morning, like you can't get out of bed.

I don't think I'm going to make it through the day. Once I get to work, I feel good for about two hours. How much coffee did you have before you get to that? I only do one cup. I don't do more than a cup. But it's every day, all day. It's up and down. So I hear what you're saying and I mean, it makes sense.

Now my question for you, though, is what can I do on my everyday just activities to get this up? Like my vitamin D, I drive a Jeep. Can I just keep the top down, take my shirt off and just get some sun on the way home? Sure, you can. Is that effective, though, in a short term at all? It is, but longstanding, no, you have to have direct sunlight. So take my shirt off. Can I ask you a weird question?

I mean this, and I promise you, it's going to be a funny question, but I mean it. There was this thing going around where people would get naked and they would do their butthole in the sun. Oh, perennial. Yes. Is that a real thing? And does it work? And why the butthole? You know what?

I'm not aware of that. I'll be honest. So I really don't, I can't comment either way on that. I feel you, I just didn't. You heard of that? I haven't heard of it. But just the full body sun exposure, I feel like that's definitely helpful as opposed to being clothed. But generally speaking, like you don't need to put.

The parameum, I don't know about that. I'm asking for a sunburned. Yeah. Right. It's a very white area. It's going to burn quickly too. That area is called paranium. Paranam.

Uh-huh. It's actual word. Vaginal health is actually a word. if I can say that on the end. You can say that. Yeah. Because it's all female anatomy. Well, so should Eddie be on the protocol you gave me, which Megan is the one that put the pellet in my hip. Yes. Dr. Pascolle, like, figured out what the pellet needed to be composed of. And then it was inserted. And then also I'm on a vitamin D weekly. So Eddie, you can just like Eddie and I can be on the vitamin D, especially as you're coming off the winter months. We don't get

direct sunrise air. We're all was inside. We're on our computer. and I think more so, almost everyone in America is vitamin D deficient. Why? Because we're indoor more. We're not getting direct rays. And then we're also sunblocking, which has its benefits. But, you know, it takes a toll on you long term. You would say then for most people, even listening, that aren't like Little D, Eddie, that you need to have vitamin D more.

But we probably, like, we don't drink enough water and we probably don't have enough vitamin D. Correct. But see, you also. need to have it monitor because you can get vitamin D toxicity also. So you really want to, you don't want to be 20. The lower limits of normal is 30, 30 to 100. Oh my goodness. Hey, dude. You're below the low D. You're a little D. So what about going to the store and getting vitamin D vitamins? Well, that's another question. I mean, that's another concern because there are lots of supplements. They're not getting absorbed. So it, I mean, like I've had,

Tons of patients. Well, I'm taking D. I'm doing, and how many times that we had to prescribe, like the mega dose over every week, 50,000 units. One of the problems that we've seen is a lot of the supplements are not what it says. And D is a fat soluble vitamin, which means it doesn't absorb easily. The thing that I've seen in our American diet is we have so many what's called pro-inflammatory foods that binds up to the D and you pass it out in your stool. So you're not getting it. Some people will swear, I'm taking it every day for the last year. We check the levels and it's low.

So it really needs to be paired with K and preferably vitamin A also increase the absorption or you can do a sublingual and bypass the gut totally. And that's really coming out from our diet is what we've seen. What about like a multivitamin? Not enough. not enough. It's usually like 200 IU units in there. It's measured in international units. Daily, we usually would recommend 5,000 to 10,000. What did Amy go on? I'm on 50,000. Right. Once a week. I use once a week. But what is that? Are you taking a pill?

I am. Yeah. So she's taking a mega dose. So I'm on a mega dose every Thursday. I take it at the same time Thursday morning. But then also I try to get outside with my limbs showing. My arms, my legs for just five to ten minutes during a peak. I don't want to stay longer than that because all my skin is, I don't want to damage my skin, but that's enough to get us. And that's one of the concerns we see, you know, we know that sunlight and aging and the whole aging process. She said aging quietly. We appreciate that. We appreciate that.

Maturing. Yeah, we appreciate it. Maturing. So what can Eddie do today? Squads? Can I do squats? Yeah, you can if you want. Does that help with the testosterone?

I don't think so. Now, if squats reduce your cortisol in an indirect way, it probably can. So, you know, to say straight out, no squats is not, it's not going to do it. Well, if it relaxes you, because we do know there's a connection with cortisol and affecting the hypothalamic pituitary axis, which is causing, releasing chemicals to make testosterone. So if I can break it down easily. So if someone relaxes more, that can help their testosterone. And he always says he's stressed.

Because of all the kids. So should he get rid of the kids? That's it. Tell me, Dr. Not advisable. Not advisable. But if going to the gym and doing squats for, you know, 30 minutes a day, that might release it because he's by himself relaxing.

Not necessarily going to the gym. a gym. So Megan, were you going to say something about the squats? I mean, any kind of large muscle group activation like squats is going to increase your natural boost of testosterone. But I would say that it probably would not get you more into like an optimal level where you're going to notice that kind of difference. Correct. So what does he do? What does Eddie do when he leaves this room that he can do to improve my life? To improve his testosterone. What is he willing to do? And what? No, that's the exact question.

He doesn't, do you do? Yeah, I don't know. What is he willing to do? Nothing. What's his time? What can he do? Honestly, what I want to do is I want a better quality of life, right? Like, I do want to wake up and feel like, I'm going to take on the day.

I want to feel that way. But I don't want to necessarily put things in my body yet. I want to see what I can do naturally first. So what would you say to him? Well, look at your diet. Oof, pizza last night. Eat more what? Protein is your best friend.

Okay. Always. It's not only cleaner, but it's making sure that you're diverting some protein to your muscle so that we're engaging in that testosterone boosting activity. But it's also just keeping your overall skin healthier, your hair healthier. Protein is your best friend. Eat less what? Processed. Process food.

Okay. Yes. This is the culprit. is we're seeing more and more. It's the processed food that is changing the microbiome, big long word, in the gut that's affecting your natural innate bacteria that provides all the good, healthy stuff that you want. Dang.

Yeah. That speaks loud. I mean, chips, right? Chips. Yeah. Get rid of that stuff. Chips pretty processed, man. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. And all the toxins on there. It's a part of my life. You know, I get home, I hadn't eaten all day. I'm like, just give me a bag of chips and let me snack off. that. It's part of my life. And it's easy. It's not like we're back in caveman days where we used to go hunt and find our food and eat it right then. Like the process of processed foods just makes life easier, more convenient. So it's hard to get away from that. So the ultra-processed

food, also a lot of the foods have been leading with tons of sugars. I'm sure you guys have now seen we are zero sugar. Well, we have been indendated. We have been indendated. with so much sugar. And that's one of the reasons for the massive obesity. And the GLPs, that's what they're doing. They're trying to give you back that bacteria that you once were making. So it all connects. The gut, the hormones, the brain, it all connects.

When he says he doesn't want anything in his body, I feel like he's talking about testosterone replacement. And I don't feel like that's what you're doing at all with Amy. Like you put a pellet in her, right? Like what's in the pellet? 100% plant-based, bioidentical, or the other word would be isomolecular, the same chemical that's coming out of her ovary, which was one of the big confusions the FDA had on hormone replacement. And what we've learned in the last 22, four years, when they put that warning that estrogen caused breast cancer, As doctors, we all, we were like, well, the study was flawed to begin with, but yet you had this overwhelming publication that went out everywhere, I think prematurely, but did not explain that there are many different kinds of estrogen.

They ran that study on a synthetic estrogen. What we found out now in the last 20-something years, women avoided estrogen eight times more likely to have Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and dementia. increase risk for cardiac events and increase not only broken bones, but more hip replacement, more knee replacement. Right. So I know a lot of women had fear of breast cancer by doing any type of hormone or replacement. But when you said plant-based for what's in my pellet, it's 100% yam. Yam.

Where is her pellet? Well, Amy will have to let you know that. Amy, where's your pellet? Where are you going to show us? Well, Megan put it in. No, you can just tell us. I'm pretty sure it's right here. Yes.

So do you have to do it like cut and then slide it in? It's a little nick that we place it under. There are other ways to do the hormones. There are patches, their creams. What we have found is the patches and creams, depending on metabolism, you may not get optimal doses. But yet some of them prefer that. It's a more economical insurance pays for it. So you make a little slit, just a little nick.

and we calculate precisely what Amy needs based on her weight. We have a big AI sort of which runs an algorithm. Algorithm. It runs all the calculations for us. Looks at her weight, her height, BMI, her metabolism, and look at some key numbers how they would affect her. And then we come up with what she needs. We'll check her blood in six weeks after we place it and see where she peaks.

and then that will slowly release for about four or five months. And so I'll have to go back and get another pellet. Could you put a pellet in Eddie? Yes. But not the same pellet that's in Amy. Well, Eddie's going to be more testosterone and a higher level because men require more. Would you do that? Is that still a yam?

It's still a yam. A hundred percent yam. Why would you not do that? Yeah, why would you not join me? We could go together. We could go together. It's interesting. Well, because it's not, I understand your fear.

Yeah. Because you don't want to inject yourself with some testosterone replacement. And I understand that. And here's what, you know, you have to look at how much has the cell phone advanced in 20 years. Well, just think about how much we have learned in 20 years while we practice misinformation or misinterpreted data. So a lot has evolved with these GMs, technology, processing, all of this. I used to be a pharmacist, and it hit me because I was so against them.

The earlier pellets, we had tons of problems with them because they were bounded with a steroid. And we now know the steroid, synthetic steroid, changes everything. And that was one of the big confusions. And when you read anything, you're listening and people are just using this one word estrogen or testosterone. They're not telling you they're like five or six different synthetics, which changes what you're putting in your body. And so I understand, no, I don't want to do anything synthetic. What we're learning, the more you can mimic exactly what's coming out of your organs,

your body does not know that it's a synthetic because it's not. It's the word I use is is is so molecular. It is the same. So you said mine mimics what's coming out of my ovaries, which Eddie doesn't have ovaries. Debatable at this point. He has a little estrogen going on. the air, okay? So where, what's it mimicking coming from where? It'll be his, his gonads, his testicles. Yeah

Yeah So, okay, I'll just use me Since we're making fun Eddie, if I were to come in And get a pellet put in me Yeah That would be Basically my body reacting

To what it feels is natural Inside of me Yes And it would naturally produce Whatever I was deficient in Which could be testosterone Yes Which is way different

Than like a TRT Or any sort of replacement Well a lot of the Replacements They may be using something And I can't comment Right Megan But we've seen

that there's some of the side effects that we take care of are due to a synthetic. And the pharmacy background is what automatically, I went, wait a minute. People are really confused. When they say the word T or testosterone, they're not realizing that there's so many Cipione, Deccanoid, in Anthony. They're all synthetic. Which is fake. Yes.

For a dumb guy term for me, fake. It's fake. It's fake. Just like that study. was done on premarine was on the urine of pregnant mares. Okay? You don't want another animal product, right? And that's why the body reacts differently.

Which is great with the pellets, though, because the pellets, not only are they bioidentical. With the injections, they are synthetic. So you're having to do those once or twice a week just to maintain levels. But with the pellet, it's compressed powder. so they eventually dissolve over time. So with those, they're uptaken by the blood vessels that pass over the pellets over time. So it's cardiac output that is actually helping to absorb those. And what's just a lot more consistent of a dose.

What's interesting, imagine like wet sand on a beach. Okay? So the powder's compressed. There's nothing hauling it together. But think about wet sand. Eventually that wet sand washes off with the way. keeps gets into the ocean. And that's a good analogy

of how it gets into your bloodstream. Would you do the pellet? Think about it. You think about everything, though. I don't actually commit to it. I'm not even saying, I'm not making you commit. I'm saying, would you consider doing the pellet? It sounds like something I would definitely consider more than, you know.

An injection. Injection, sure. Yeah, and this is the misconception a lot of folks have, because when you use that word T, most folks are thinking, because that's what you're reading, all of the synthetic side effects. And that's one of the things we have to tell women also, no, you're not going to grow a beard. You're not going to. Oh, I thought that.

Like if women got testosterone, they're going to grow a beard. I literally thought that. Well, women don't get the degree of testosterone that men are getting. If they did, though? We want a little bit. Yes. If we did. If like you put 10 pellets and Amy on accident.

Oh, Lord. That would be a big accident. Wow. No, it would not be an accident. But that's why y'all wanted to, six weeks after, you. monitor my blood because if it was too high, I could get facial hair. Correct. So it could happen.

And if she did, I don't know what to do and how to bring it down. You guys make me want a pellet. Yeah, I know. Come on. Come on. So it's just a small incision and it goes in? It's a tiny incision, yeah. Did you bring any with you?

You know, we should have, but it looks like a little tick-tack. And how long does it last? You may have said this already, but how long does it last? For women, four or five months. For men, six, even eight months. Longer. So four months were you, Eddie. And aside from us...

Because men are getting like a bigger, like diameter size of testosterone. So like a big tick-tick-ta? Like an acorn. So, yeah, like a big tick-tack. Yeah. Extra large. Amy, can you feel it? Like if you touched your...

No, honestly, I tried to... It freaked me out at first, so I really tried not to touch it. And now I can go back there a little bit and feel. But for the first couple weeks, I was so scared. I like didn't want to... I mean, I had to wear a band-aid over it. I mean, it bled. Like, it's a real...

It's a real... It's a real... It's a number. It's a procedure. But I don't feel it now, and now I'm not scared to touch back there. Did you guys ever see Amy's tail? Her tail? She has a tail.

She has a real tail. Do you want to see it? She's told us many times. Well, Dr. P has seen everything. Well, she can't say, though. She's locked up. I have on hip-up. Yeah, she's hip-ed up.

Amy can. Amy claims she has a tail, like her bone goes down. No, I don't. I, we call it a tail now, jokingly, but it's my tail. tail bone but it protrudes and it feels really weird. Does that happen? Have you all ever notice? What's variation? Everyone has. Do you want to feel it? Sure. Okay. Wait, has she not? Well, she's not part of a past mirror. What do you want from

what do you want from this though? Well, just, is it normal? Okay. All right, come on. Amy, bring your butt over there. Amy's going to get her tail. So weird. All right. Interesting. The doctor is now feeling. It's a little sharp, Amy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what does that mean for her? I do. Everybody's feeling she's doing show and tell right now? Yeah, just a variation.

It's normal. But you said it's a little sharp. Yeah, it's a little sharp variation, but that's not abnormal. Why would it be? As long as it's not bothering you. I mean, sometimes when I sit too long, it does get a little,

I'm like, I have to reposition or squish my cheeks together to give it some batting. Sometimes when she gets excited, you see it wiggle. Oh my gosh, stop. No? Okay.

Okay. Eddie. What have you learned, though, that you're going to take from this room? I think one of the biggest things, the big takeaways, is that me and Amy have the same problem. Like, that's crazy to me. That Amy both, and we both have low T and we're both deficient in vitamin D. Crazy. Okay. But one.

Well, that's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. Yeah. One leads to the other a bit, right? Well, yeah. From what I understood, from I recall when you first told me, you said, you can do everything you want to build the testosterone and get it back. but if you don't have vitamin D, it's not going to happen.

So, like, that has to happen in order for the testosterone to happen. But maybe to help Eddie feel a little bit more comfortable, you said you've worked with men, but you've inserted pellets into men. Yes. Okay. Yes, I have. So you're going to get... We've done quite a few, actually.

We're going to get more sun. More sun. We're going to work on more sun. Yes. And then we're going to work on that diet. Yep. This is what I'm going to do. The work on the diet is very important because, yes, the gut seems like it's a problem.

work on that diet, stay away from processed foods, get more sun, and then if we're not where I want to be, which is where do I want to be. If I have a physical coming up in like two months. Is that not enough time? It's enough time. I don't know if you're D. Usually we'll recheck it in three months. Okay.

Maybe I push back to physical. But we'll still see some improvement at that point. If there's no improvement, you think about the pellet. I'm going to think about the pellet. How consistent does he have to be with this, though? Because he's not. or inconsistent. No, but now that I know it's serious. You've said this 100 times about 100 things.

But see, you know, the thing about Eddie, what's going on now? This is not unusual, and I don't want to mention your age, but this is... It's okay. He says it. I'm 47. Okay, this is very common, and I've seen men as young as 25 with low tea.

Whoa. Yeah. Oh, that sucks. Yes. And that sucks. Yeah. And this young man, the mother, well, see how these men come. Is there their moms or their wives feel incredible. Then they start learning by they recognize. I'm like, can I bring my son in?

He's being treated for depression right now. And I can't figure what's going on. And he's not responding to any of the medications. Sure enough, his tea was like 100. So you're saying that a lot of people may not even think it's their tea. It could be many other reasons. But in reality, like, they should check this. Fundamentally, it could be their testosterone.

Correct. load that's affecting everything else about them. Correct. Okay. This has been good. Yeah, very eye-opening for sure. It definitely explains, too, how I've been feeling and definitely now have a better understanding of why that's happening.

And traditionally, you know, as women came in, and one of the comments that I, you know, patients come in and unfortunately, my gynecologist tells me that I'm not in menopause, I'm 35. And they just roll their eyes and send me out the room. And I thought, well, no, no, no, we need to look at all of it. No one was looking at testosterone for women. Sure enough, for women, it's like legs of a table. You need to have your testosterone in a normal range, your estrogen, progesterone,

and for women, also we look at a little thyroid, okay, which can be affected by diet, iron. And so when that's not in line, you feel sort of wonky. The table is not balanced. And so even women that are still having periods, they could be off. And a lot of the reasons, the vitamin D is off, the T's off, or if their irons low, their thyroid might be borderline low, and they're struggling with all the similar symptoms of menopause. Okay. You have some action items, and you're going to, for a couple days say you're doing them, and then we're going to check it again.

And you're going to go like, oh, I kind of forgot. But if you want it to be better, you have got to do the work. It's really like a whole lifestyle. And that's hard to say, like, what you've been doing for the last life. Yes. Forever. You have to change. You have to put all of this down and completely pick up.

So if you want your life in the next, you've got kids, you're going to have grandkids one day. You want to be able to not only be around, but active and mobile. We have 70-something-year-old women come in. I just want to have energy and be able to move and play with my grandkids. Yeah. But you can do that now. You can do that now. So what you do now, you're going to, you know, reap.

or you're going to pay for it in the next five to ten years, okay? Okay. Megan, thank you. Thank you. Dr. Pascoe, thank you very much. Oh, thank you guys for having us on here. I think this has been educational, not just for Eddie, which was the reason, we'll say acutely you came in,

but I do think for a lot of listeners too, they are able to learn that there's much more to it than just I feel bad because of whatever simple solution they've been fed when it really is possibly something as fundamental as you're just not getting enough vitamin D like that could be one of the reasons. So we really appreciate you guys coming in.

I think a lot of people learned a lot of things. And Amy, thanks for bringing your folks in and thanks for being vulnerable with your tailbone. You know, that's been a lot of test. All right, thank you. All right, that'll do it for today's podcast. Thank you so much for listening. If you got a minute, go check out the Bear Girls interview

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