The Bobby Bones Show - THURS PT 2: How Much Money Did Bobby Make On 'Dancing With The Stars'? + New Crime On The Rise + Bobby Messaged A Celebrity That Made Him Feel Old + Scammer Called Our Show!

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

Amy shares what crime is on the rise that has us surprised.  How Justin Bieber negotiated his own deal to make $10 million dollars.  We had a scammer try to call our studio line. Bobby addressed another story that came out about him yesterday over Dancing with the Stars. He talked about how much money he made during his time on the show. Bobby talked about a celebrity he messaged on Instagram that made him feel old. Bobby talked about what is happening on social media right now without us even realizing it. We also talked about the average ages men and women get married and how it's changed over time.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, then you got them. Listen to soccer moms on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's go around the room to start this off. I got to go by the bank today. though. Money. I got to get some cash. Yes, so do I. For Vegas. Because I get there and you go to the ATM in the casino and it's, do you want to withdraw 400 bucks? I sure do. Do you want to pay a $27 fee? I don't. But they know they have you. I just remembered I got to do that. Amy, you want to go first? Sure. I guess museum heists are up. They're on the rise. I hate that for museums. Yeah.

Yeah. So a thief stole a sum of gold worth $700,000. from the Paris Natural History Museum this week. Wow. And then also this week, an ancient Pharaoh's priceless, three thousand-year-old bracelet went missing at the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. You would think they would guard the stuff that's so valuable with the same amount of intention and security they would if it was just that amount of cash laying there.

Because if you had something that was worth a million dollars or you had a million dollars in cash, you would think you would guard that the same. And I'm not saying they're not, but if you're able to heist this stuff, That feels like they're not properly securing it, right? Yeah. I don't know.

These people are just using, like, explosives to get in. Explosives? Yeah, some people. Bones, you saw the Mona Lisa, like, was that secured? There's no way you're doing that. Oh, so. There's no way you're getting it. Like, how is it secured?

Well, so when I was reading about this, the Mona Lisa was stolen back in 1911, and that actually made it more popular. Like, it was a relatively, unknown Da Vinci painting until three robbers stole it back then. And then the theft made it this like very sought after peace. So when they got it back, like it was returned. I don't know. I guess they just decided. Never mind. This is ugly. We thought she'd be hotter. Here, you can have this back. Yeah, there's no way. First of all, it is down. The Louvre is underground. So you have to go underground to get into the museum. And so you go down these humongous stairs. You're under.

And then that, it's like, I'm going to just make this up, but I think it's like an eighth of a mile in. Whoa. You have got to go so far in and follow all these hallways. And then you finally get there. And it's just so. And then once you get there, it's covered in this crazy plastic, or glass or some mixture of that that I think is not only protective for people robbing it,

but also from like the pictures, the lights. I think there's something to that because, you know, flash, flash over and over again, we'll wipe something out. So you can probably steal it. you just probably can't get out of there with it. It'd be hard to get to it, but I think if you do get to it, what are you going to do? Yeah. Hide in a bathroom.

Right. Until it closes. Yeah, that would be tough. Heister on the rise. Yeah, museum. That's how you know the economy's not doing great. When a high start to go up, that's one of the factors. Yeah, one of the main things in the story when I was reading about it was that, yeah,

Mona Lisa wasn't even as popular until it got stolen. And then I was like, is that the greatest PR son of all time? Like, did they steal it? and then return it. Well, it feels like yesterday, we were talking about Beyonce's music being stolen. I was like, I'd fake this and be like, we can't believe it.

The music's stolen. Oh my God. And then you leak it yourself and go, aha, I've got your music. And I will leak this one song at a time. So much interest on it then. So, yeah, I didn't know that about it being stolen back in the day. I imagine if I were put back in 1911 right now,

with everything I know now, that would be one of the only things I think I could do that I think would benefit me because I don't know how technology works. It's not like I could go back and be like, guys, they have iPads. Let me show you how these weren't. I have no idea. I just use it. But I think one of the things that I could do is rob and kill.

And get away with it. Rob and kill. Well, because you learn so much about how people can get away with murders and stuff now. Yeah. And then they didn't have DNA evidence. Yeah, it's easy. What's a security alarm? Somebody yelling.

Hark! Right, right. Park. Thief. Stop them. I think that could be the thing that I would do. And I don't think I would ever do that now. But if you put me back then, I might just be a serial killer because I know I can get away with it.

No. You understand what he's saying. I mean, he's hypothetically like if he could. It's only hypothetical because I can't go back in 1911. The whole thing is hypothetical. But why are we even hypotheticallying that? But he's saying that's the only thing he could really do. Like he can't invent a computer.

He can't invent an airplane. Was that 1911? When was that? Round then, I guess. 1919. I don't know. Mike, will you look at. that up. Orville and Wilbur Wright.

I don't want to be wrong. I wouldn't be able to do any of that. Right. Maybe a bicycle, but they already had those. It'd be the simplest of things. 1903. There you go, 1903. Good job. Yeah, I couldn't have it. Light or fire. That was before. It sucked to live back then, knowing all the things we have now.

The two things, hot water and air conditioning. You could tell people to not get on the Titanic. Don't do it. They won't listen to you, though. No one's going to say like, okay, this guy's telling us not going. She's on to something. I don't think we can use our predictive minds. I don't think that's fair because I would then just bet on sports. I'd bet on boxing and horse racing.

Wow. So, but, but to your point, I think if that were allowed in this hypothetical situation that everything's allowed, you would do that and nobody would believe you. But then you could go, I'm the psychic that said, don't go on the Titanic, so you should believe me for other things and make money off that. You'd be the Miss Cleo of 1922. And then you'd be accurate with all the other stuff. I don't remember a lot of stuff.

But you'd have to know your history. Like, I know, like, macro history. Like women's suffrage comes up I'm like hey women going to vote soon Trust me Hey bet on that It's going to be controversial But women are going to be able to vote

You know help with the Great Depression Yeah huh yeah you can Prohibition and stuff Hide your alcohol Yeah open a speakeasy That's where the money's that guy Open it like before it becomes illegal And be like trust me guys

You're gonna want to be a member here I don't think you do it before it becomes illegal Because then they know where it is And they target it if it stays open No, you're like on the down low. Be like, Loki come join my club. Trust me.

Oh, and all the bank robberies. They're going to already trust you because you predicted the Titanic. The bank robberies, I know who did them. It's Bonnie and Clyde. But we're not getting to beat predictors because that, or we just bet on sports.

Right. Like that's that. That's Biff's Almanac. Back to the future too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just if you could take your knowledge back into a different timeline where everything doesn't happen

the exact same one. but you can take your knowledge of what you've learned about inventions. Let me think. You know, what utilities could you take back? I don't know. You could buddy up with Ford. You know? And do what?

I don't know if you could get to him. What? Henry? Yeah, Henry. Like you... I'd want to buddy up with Rockefeller if we're doing that. Oh, sure. Or Vandy.

Yeah, and then... Vanderbilt. I thought you meant Mahatma Gandhi. I don't know if I'm going to fly back then. I don't like flying now. Go to India. You kind of just like give them one little idea or something. that might be good for the, and then you're in.

Yeah, I think that's probably tougher than just being in with those rich guys. No, no, no, no, no. You come up, you're like, I don't know, when did they, like, what on the car? Like, when did they have the blinker or the horn? Or the, like, could you, like, bring something to the table? Can you imagine criticizing his invention

and, like, giving him an idea before it's even out? Hey, I got, that's good, man, but let me tell you something else. You'd be kicked out immediately. He's a railroad. He's like, who do you think you are? Telling me about a blinker? Yeah, that's crazy. What about, what about like dyslexia?

Like, guys, you're seeing these words different? That's called dyslexia. And this is why you have it. I don't know that the calling it, the word would do anything. Because you could say this is called slubnomnia. And it would mean the same, but it was, do you have enough of an understanding of it to teach that it's real and how to fix it? Guys, the concept of dyslexia was first described in 1877. They'd be like, we already know dyslexia, dude.

Good point. Yeah, that's tough, man. I'm with you. We don't know much. I wouldn't know how to teach anyone anything. We don't know much, but we know. Oh, how about mental health? I bet they weren't in on that.

Not only were they not in, they didn't want to be in. But, well, they didn't know what they didn't know. They weren't woke enough then. But, well, you could just like... Again, you would sound so crazy. You'd sound like today if you were like, guys, we should not cut down trees because they have lives too. Because somebody came to us from the future and said that crap. First of all, we wouldn't believe they're from the future.

Secondly, we'd be like, shut up. They're trees. They're not real. But who knows? In 130 years, we might find that these plants are really, like, because they do need nutrients. They do need sunlight. They need everything that we need. They grow.

They don't have that. Yes. And so, in 120 years, that could be a thing where they've discovered that plants really do, quote, unquote, live. And if someone came to tell us that, we'd be like, shut up. You're crazy. That's not true. Watch.

So I think it would be met the same way. So unless you could actually provide a, actual invention, it'd be very difficult. But I don't want to go back because I don't. I don't want to have just only cold water because there was no hot water. Not really for normal people. Well, then can we teach them to heat water up? Okay, but how?

You know how to do it with fire. The people that could do it knew how to do it. You could boil water. People didn't have access to. So what's it? What is it? The water heater? That's what we would need to figure out.

Well, it'd be great if you had like a month of prep and you could just learn a couple things. Like you know you're going back and you got to cram on how to build a couple things? Give me the water heater. Yeah. That'd be cool. That'd be cool.

All right, good luck to all those museums. Yeah, because it's season. It's high season. High season right now. High season. Lunchbox? Well, I'm not a big Coachella guy, but Rolling Stone has confirmed that Justin Bieber will

now be the highest paid performer in the history of the festival. He's going to be the headliner next year, and he got a paycheck of more than $10 million. dollars. Yeah, also he negotiated his own deal. And a lot of times, you know, you have agents and managers, but he pretty much negotiated the whole thing. So he was able to cut them out of, not cut them out, but they weren't a part of that process. So a lot of the fees that you pay to those people that help you, he didn't have to pay. Wow. He had lawyers involved. But he's

one of the three, I believe, or maybe four. It's him. It's, uh, Carol G. I believe is her name that's headlining it. Sabrina Carpenter. Mike, you may look this up because it's a Thursday, Friday, Saturday or a Friday Saturday Sunday event. Carol G performed, if I'm right, at the Brazil NFL game, halftime. Oh, that was her? I think so. Yes, Carol. I'm going all for memory because I just scroll through the story.

Sounds familiar. So. Dude, that was hot. Really? That Brazilian halftime show? I don't like hearing Eddie say that. Why? And you can say it?

Why? Why can you say it? I haven't said it. I don't think. What do you have, Mike? Yeah, that was her. And those are all the big three. So the three headliners are Carol G. Sabrina Carpenter and Bieber.

And she was at the Brazil game. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. You didn't like it? It's fine. The whole thing was, the whole thing was good shaking. Like, I saw it. Like, we don't do that in America.

It was amazing. It was definitely Latin. Yeah. It was definitely Latin. Hey, Eddie, Sean. What am I? The noise, you're like, it was all booty shaking. It was hot.

Yeah. You are being kind of weird. Really? Yes. I just like that. It's the whisper crease. whispering? Well, no, it's like, there's a difference

I'm like over the top because lunchbox is like over the top creepy. But you're like whispering creepy and that feel like that's a bit different. That's even creepier. It's like, yeah, I'm like, I didn't realize I was doing that. Oh, that's hot. That show.

The thing too is like, you know, they're paying Carol G millions and millions of dollars. This is when you realize, one, you're too old for the young part of pop culture and I just understand it's not for me to enjoy. Like, I don't know any of,

her music and she's headlining Coachella. Like not one of the secondary massive acts, but she's one of the headliners of the entire night. And so I go, don't know her music, I'm not supposed to know her music. Oh, wow, so here's how much I know. I googled Carol like C-A-R-O-L and hits with a K. Of course it is. Yeah, yeah. It's way cooler. Mike.

Do you know her music, Mike? No, she's from Columbia, I believe. Yeah. I didn't know if our Hispanic. I know, Eddie doesn't because he's over here. Nah, it's the first time I saw her. But you're also 10 years younger than Eddie. No, I haven't got into her. Okay. Yeah, I don't know.

Is Oliver music Spanish? I believe so, yeah. But it wasn't even her that was like, it was the whole thing. All the booty dances. Well, yeah, because it was a whole choreographed booty dance. And then they would all just like booty shake at the same time. Like the whole, and they were all on the field. It was crazy, Amy.

Like, it was something. Go back to watch it. We got it. We got it. It was crazy. All my. All my boys, as we were watching it, all my boys were like, mouth's wide open. They're hypnotized.

This is amazing. Okay. Eddie, what do you have? So in Austria, like about four years ago, these nuns that ran a school in Austria, they were like, since they were really young, they ran the school. They were awesome at it. It was their life. And then the Catholic church all of a sudden says like a couple weeks ago, like, hey, you're not going to, you're too old. We're going to move you to a Catholic retirement home.

So they moved them like miles and miles away and they were so upset about it. They just broke free the other day and they made it back to the school and they were shot. People were like, oh my gosh, these three old nuns, they were like, no, you can't take us out of the place that we started from the very beginning. We want to be back. And they broke out. And they broke out. That's pretty awesome. Delma and Louise of Nunn.

Yeah. I thought that was cool. That's fun. Morgan, what do you have? Did you guys see yesterday the Spirit Airlines flight along with Air Force One? I watched, I say I watched. They showed like a picture of the clouds, and then they put the words on the bottom as it was running. Oh, the audio?

Yeah, yeah. Tell the story, Morgan. Well, so Spirit Airlines, basically the pilots, I guess, weren't paying attention, and you had air traffic control, was yelling at them, telling them to take a turn, and they weren't doing it, but the thing that startled me the most

was what they said at the very end. It was like, pay attention and get off the iPad. Get off your iPad. Well, they mean like, they're not playing like. They were joking. Oh. It was like, sub-looking to your iPad. iPad. Like pay attention. What did you think of me, Eddie? Well, I thought like, you know how

pilots sometimes control on their iPads or like they have a pad that they control the plane in? I didn't think they were playing like Mario Card on an iPad. I think that, okay, I can be wrong, but my interpretation of it was it's like get off your phone and pay attention. Oh. And I'm sure they have iPads in there, but I think, I don't think they were flying the plane by an iPad. What do you think? Well, I don't know. Like my ex-sets when he would fly, like he did have this iPad looking thing. He kept on his knee, but it would, I don't know what it was giving him, but it was information. He wasn't controlling the plane from it.

But like, I don't know if there's other apps or instruments that help him be more efficient. To fly, though, they're not playing a game, right? No, but I think the joke was get off your iPad. Like your screen. Like, because he was talking down to them. Yeah. It was like, hey, get off your iPad and pay attention. Yeah.

But they were like eight miles away, right, from like Air Force One? It was a few because they said a four miles, six miles, whatever it was. I'm going to flubbed on that a little bit. I'm like, eight miles is a long way. Yeah, but think about how fast you're going, Eddie. Dang, got him, Morgan. What an idiot. Hey, idiot police called.

They're coming to get you. Okay. I mean, they're going pretty fast. Dude, I don't know. I'm just kidding. I have no idea. Yeah, that's fun. I saw that.

But also, you may have said this, but also I read it, it wasn't here. I mean, it was flying to Europe. So was it right off of the coast in America? Yeah, well, it was New York Center air traffic controller, so they were leaving from here to go to the UK. Got it. Because I thought Spirit is not in the UK. Spirit?

Oh, wait, hold on. It says Air Force One was transporting him to United Kingdom, but the Spirit flight was en route from Fort Lauderdale to Boston. So the Fort Lauderdale flight was coming in. Trump was going to the UK. Get off Candy Crush. That had been even funnier. Subway Surfer. You ever played that one?

They're like these kids that jump from subway to subway. Why do you play that one? My kids play it and then I'm like, give me that, let me try that. And then they've moved off of it and you're on it two years later.

That's exactly. Still trying to master subway surfer. Okay, let's see. Am I the only one left to go? Okay, I got a couple things here. Thanks for asking. Amy, I don't want to, let me show you this in a minute.

Let me do some voicemails. Let's go with, Ray, give me a voicemail number three. This is Comcast Xfinity. This is a final advisory that the 50% discount on your monthly bill has been removed due to lack of response.

If this is an error and you want to keep the discount, call back on the number showing on your caller ID immediately to correct it. Thank you. That's a scam, right? Oh, I was going to say, Scooby. You need to call them, dude. Because one, that's a scam.

One, we don't have. Comcast infinity. We don't have anything. We don't? Not in the studio. Oh. Unless it's internet, but they wouldn't call the request like that line. The hot line.

Yeah. And secondly, look at the caller ID and call back. Wouldn't it just be 1-800 if it was really them? Like 1-800 Comcast? I think that's a scam. I wanted to play this because I think people get scams like this a lot. They just throw 10,000 of them out there.

And if they get two calls, you know, Eureka, right? Everybody think that's a scam? Yeah, definitely. Now I do. They would know their number, but they change their number so much they don't know it. So they have to just say, just look at the caller ID. Give me number five, Ray. Love the idea of him in the tuxedo.

I don't know if he recently saw Travis Kelsey wearing the tuxedo with shorts, but I think that would also be epic for lunchbox to do, put on the tuxedo top. It would definitely make him stand out even more. It would be way more comfortable for him running around and doing all that sort of stuff. And obviously, Travis Kelsey just did it. So, you know, it's a look. It's trendy. And rock it.

Did you see Travis Kelsey lunchbox in the jacket buttoned up in shorts? Yeah, I did. That was when he was walking into the game. I believe, like last weekend or something. But yes, I did see that. And I didn't know if they, do they make tuxedos like that? Or do he just cut those into shorts? So they do make them because sometimes you'll see different artists wearing something like that.

And sometimes you'll see on some of the sites, you know, you can get the tuxedo top. But it's specifically made with the shorts. It's not like they're making a tuxedo and going, you can get pants or shorts. It's like usually something that's made together. Yeah, I just think you're kind of too old for that look. That's very much a young, young man's look. I mean, Travis Kelsey can do it because he's famous. And how old is he?

I don't know. Right, 36. Is that young? 36? 35. I think he's on the older end of, I don't think that's young, but if you're famous, you get the credit of like 10 years. So, like, sometimes you see rappers wearing that kind of stuff or like rock guys,

like young rock guys. Also, it kind of defeats the purpose of if you're wearing a tuxedo to prove that you're, you're dressing up because you think this is such an important event. If you're pulling off and you're not wearing pants, it's like this is more of a joke. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't do the shorts. I would just wear a tuxedo like you're going to a wedding.

Yeah, because I don't want it to be a joke. It's not a joke. It's not a joke. It's not a joke. It is not a joke. I pulled up my Instagram this morning and I was on E online, and there's another story about me on Dancing with the Stars. It happens every year at this time because the show starts again.

And so they look for anything. And so like on the front page of, I get e-news, yeah. There I am. And it's a different story. Not the cheating one? Mm-hmm. Boy, that was on, what was the show? Extra last night.

It was? It was everywhere. Wow. So when they talk about it, is it like, poppy bones cheated on Dancing with Stars? Here's the story. Kind of. They definitely sensationalize the tease. Coming up next, what form?

dancing with the stars castmate admits to cheating to win the show. Dang. That's a good tease. And then they come back and it's like, cheating on Dancing with the Stars? How can it happen? Well, former winner, season 27, Bobby Bones admits he cheated.

Here's how. So then you've set through the next 15 seconds and then just leading into it. And it's like a clip of me on a podcast going, yeah, I cheated on Dancing with Stars. Then they cut out from that. And so now you're in 27 seconds. Oh, boy.

And it's like, yeah. Well, according to the rules, officially, Bobby said, and the very end of it is so quick. It's like he would get an extra studio and work by himself. All right, back to you, John. Yeah, 27 seconds in, I'm already like, this guy's a cheater, dude. I'd move on. The rest of my life, I'd be like, yeah, Bobby Bones?

I'd be a cheater. So what's the new headline? Bobby Bones shares how much money he made on dancing with the stars. Also not a new story because I've talked about it a few times. Same podcast. Yeah. Yeah. But you've also said it here, too.

Yeah, a bunch of times. And on that podcast, I wasn't as detailed about it Because I don't remember exactly Because I don't remember how it went week to week But it was you get A hundred and something thousand dollars Just to agree to be on the show Like to do the first

That's not bad And to show up Well, yes But yes To agree and then show up Like you get kicked off in the first week But you still get that Nobody gets kicked off the first week

And you have to do two weeks Before the show even starts Sorry sorry second So it's like a month worth of work. I'm not saying that it's bad money, but I'm saying it's not as easy as get your money and show up because you got to do press for a week. You got to be away. You got to go live in California or be there a lot. Fly back and work. Yeah, I didn't mean to minimize what has to go into that. However, the longer you stay, the more difficult it is. So it's kind of crazy that even the beginner

type people that get kicked off early still make. That's a significant amount of money. Yeah, that's just the, hey, you'll be on the show. We can promote you being on the show money. So it's four weeks. Do they pay for you? your um everything your apartment and all that yes and we had to live because mike lived with me we had to live where everybody else didn't live because i had to work that was the only one working on that show so did they all live like at a similar like melrose place yeah they all lived in the same apartment complex compound oh and so and we were in a dorm room in glendale we were yeah we were 30 minutes away from them because i had to live next to the radio station because we had to work all the time every day

you know to do this show and so yeah you get your one 10 or one 20 to agree to do the show to do all the press to do four weeks on the show because it's two weeks before anybody gets kicked off it's two weeks training so that's that and then after that if you last past week two it's like 10 grand 10 grand or something like that then it goes to 20 and eventually it's $50,000 an episode if you make it to the last episode that's cool and I won and I think all in it was close to $400,000 so you get more when you win Nope. You get more for making it to the very end. You don't get a winner's check, but you do just to make it to that last episode, you get another $50,000. Wow. So when you're kicked off, and some people on that show don't have jobs. You know, they're in between. So when you get kicked off, you're like, oh, man, I got kicked off the show, but mostly it's like, I'm not getting a check. So, yeah, that's what it was. And I told Jason Tartick, his podcast I was on, I was like, yeah, I was around $400,000. Because he won. wanted to know if that for me turned into other types of money. And I was like, oh, yeah.

I said, one, I only did it because ABC wanted me to do it. I never had the goal of being on Dancing with the Stars. I never thought I would be on Dancing with the Stars. I never raised my hand and said, can I be on Dancing with the Stars? They came to me and said, we want you to be on Dancing with the Stars. And I was like, are you sure? So that's how that started. And then it was the conversation about the money, but what it allowed after that. Did his ex do Dancing with the Stars? She won. Oh, she won. Okay. Like last year or the year before. While they were together? Yeah, I don't know when they were together.

I don't know. Yeah, I have no idea. But yeah, she was also a dancer. So she was good. She was great. Naturally good. Naturally, I don't know. Because, again, she was a dancer, so she, like, had trained a lot.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I meant, yeah. But, I mean, some of that is, like, you're, some people are born more gifted in that area, sort of, like, singing. I don't even think, with all the proper training in the world, I could. Sing? move dance. And Bobby did? Yeah, I mean, I could, but not like some of these people.

I took that hip-hop dance class with my daughter, and there was six-year-olds to 60-year-olds in the class. And there were some 60-year-olds nailing it, and some of the six-year-olds, they would just have to see the instructor do it one time through, and they could mimic it. Yeah, some people have that talent. Yeah, they visualize it, and they could recreate it, no problem.

And I was like... That's a developed skill more than a talent. I know, but there's... Some people can just move their... body. No, no, but watching a coach do all those moves, that's a developed skill way more than a talent. Sure. I guess just somebody who just has good movement in their body can't just watch somebody do

six moves or a full eight count of moves and go, got it. I know, I just think like, but some of it is like, think of like, like, Caitlin, she hears a song once and she can sing back every word. Like, she's got a gift. That's like, I wouldn't even consider that the same because I think there are probably people that are brilliant in that so net but that's 0.001%. I just mean like good. I'm just saying the general good person that can move their body,

they have to develop that skill to watch a full 16 count and go, oh, I got it. They've had to do that and learn how to do it in steps. Yeah. But some people just move better than others for sure. It's just funny. When you talk about Dance with the Stars, I'm like, man, I would just go and I can't dance. Let's just see how we do.

And if I make it three rounds, once you realize there's money. I know. And then also when you're dancing on television, it's, yeah, maybe you're right. You went in with a whole different attitude. Once I committed, I committed. Like I was there to win. I remember telling Sharna, we're going to win. And this was like week one.

She's like, what did she say? She laugh at you? No, but she was, I think it was a bit of, I don't know how that's going to happen. Because I was so far behind. And she had really great partners that didn't win. No fault of hers. She had a backstreet. Nick Carter.

Oh, wow, yeah. She had former NFL players, and they didn't win, and she made it to the finals, but whatever it was, they didn't have that, Genique, Genesegoa. Which you had.

Had too much. I found, you know, we were playing, played that Dancing with the Stars audio, so I was trying to look for the video to see if I had emailed it to myself, and I found an email that I sent to you, and I'm surprised that you didn't be like,

what, don't say that? Because I emailed you saying, hey, I went ahead and booked my flight to L.A. for the finale because you're going to win and I want to be there. So I'm already booked my flight. Oh, like the jinx you mean? Yeah. Don't say that. I was so tired. I don't even think I... Maybe you didn't even see it. Oh, I saw it, I'm sure. I don't know. Because I was like, I can't believe I sent that. What was I thinking? I should have just booked it and not said anything. But I was like so excited. I was like, flights booked. You're going to win. Boop-oop. I remember I went. I didn't even see you.

I got there and Bobby's like, hey, and then he went to practice and then I never saw him. And then I went to the studio with Mike and then we saw you on the set. And then afterwards, we left. But yeah, man, I barely saw you out there. I went to every show. Never packed my bag. I'm like, we're not going. Oh, yeah.

Because they wanted you to pack your bag every show because you just get sent home right after. Oh. You do your press and then you go home. So you'd have to pack your bag every time you'd go live, like for the show? I never packed my bag. Good, because you weren't going home. That's probably good for the mental mindset. Mike, you didn't either?

No. Yeah. Never packed it. See? I would have packed it every time. Another way he cheated. Yeah, never packed my bag. They told him, pack your bag and he said, no.

It's just every year, because again, I was one of the more controversial finishes. Every year this comes up and it's another week of talking about it. Because I don't ever go into anything going like, I'd like to talk about dancing with the stars. That feels to me like a lifetime ago. Yeah. I still have my mirror ball trophy, which is fun. But that's never something that I bring up to go, I'd like to talk about this because I feel like I've exhausted it.

But every year. It's fun to talk about it. Comes back up. I never get invited to go back to the stuff. Never? Nothing. But if you showed up, they would be like, hey, Bobby, come on in, right? I don't know.

There's been so much change in the executive. Oh. Like the people that are running it. Yeah. I know the showrunner, though, now. better than I knew the one even then, but he doesn't invite me back. I used to work with him.

I had signed a deal with BBC and I was like creating programming for them for a few years, and he was the guy, he was my guy, and now he's running that show. And I messaged him the other day and I was like, hey, congrats, I saw you're the showrunner,

which means the big boss. And he's like, dude, thanks. And we mentioned a couple other things. We used to talk about sports, but I'm invited back or anything. I don't even know that I would go, but it would be nice to get the invite. Right.

It's kind of how you are in life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, I probably like, oh, I can't make it, but thank you. But when I don't get that, I'm like, hmm. Why didn't I get invited? I didn't watch episode one of this season, and I don't know if they, even anybody goes back. I didn't see anybody in the crowd. Yeah. So maybe that's not even really a thing, but I didn't go back. They don't have me, like, go and mentor the dancers. I don't think they want me mentoring what I did. They just had the Batch Florette there, but I think that was it. What do you mean? Is she the current one coming up?

The one coming up, yeah? Yeah, okay. That makes sense because that's straight promotion. Yeah. I was going to share this. say me. So I message somebody on Instagram. I don't want to say who it is right now. I just wonder if you recognize this name. No. I bet you would if you saw his, if like you saw his face and stuff.

Well, I couldn't. It's too tiny. Yeah. Oh, you couldn't read the name? I could read the name. I couldn't see the face. Look them up on your phone. Do you want to say his name again? Yeah, I need to, I saw the, I got the first name. Oh. Don't say who it is. I didn't hear it.

Got it. Got it. tell me if you recognize him oh i mean i've seen him but you've seen him on stuff yeah he's like popped up yeah but i don't know much about him he's been on some major shows he's been on

yeah he's done so i'm not going to say who he is for a reason right now but he's been on joe rogan whatever so i messaged him yeah so what did you say i said hey man keep up to good work i i don't know him never even been in the same room with him i said hey keep up the good work he doesn't follow me on instagram

and I was just going to read a message back to you, which is it's positive, it's fun, but also it's like, man, time marches on at the same time because he wrote back. Oh, he wrote back? Oh, yeah, he wrote back in like six hours. Oh. To an, into one of his inboxes that you don't see.

Like it goes into like a special message as if you have blue checkmark. He said, hey, thank you so much for the message. I'm a big fan. My little sister and I used to listen to you on Kiss FM back in Austin on our way to school. you are the voice of my childhood. I'm also friends with,

and he mentioned somebody who used to be an intern for us who I know still obviously. It's one of the interns I like keep up with. He gets small world. Thanks again for the message. It means a lot. I thought this pretty crazy.

Yeah. Wow. Hmm. Yeah. Okay. Because I see where now he was born. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, that was pretty crazy. My point with that was not to keep back who it was,

but there's some time marches on moments. where someone's like, I just listen to you in the car when I was a kid. Yeah. And I'm like sending him a message being like, dude, keep up the good work. Like you're killing it. I admire what you're doing. And he's like, hey, old guy. You remember our boss Rod, you know, like something, he was on the air.

And we were with him somewhere and somebody was like, wow, you were the here. No, we were playing pickleball, rocking rod. Who was Nick? It was Nick. It was Nick. Our friend Nick, who grew up in Kentucky. And he was like, you're rocking rod. And Rod's like, I have a man.

called that in 25 years. And he was like, he's listening to Rock and Rod on the radio. That was so funny. Yeah, that was so funny. Let's take a break, and we will come back. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's see. Gen Z, and I get confused, Gen X, then Millennials, then Gen Z. Is that the order? Is millennial than Gen Y? Right? That would make sense,

because if it goes X, millennial, Gen Z, that millennials also Gen Y. Yeah, we still call it that. Got it, thank you, Mike. So the whole situation is, apparently Gen Z spends significantly less time outside than Gen X. and that's all screens, right?

Sure. I don't spend as much time outside. Are you, what are you? No, I'm just saying because screens. Yeah. I love screens. That's my favorite. Am I an Xer?

Yeah. I'm a Gen X. Yeah, I am too. It just depends on what thing you look at. So I would be like an old millennial or a young Gen X because I was born in 1980. You're right on the test. And some of them are 80, some of them are 81.

It doesn't matter. I'd rather be Gen X, honestly, because of the association with Mulanx. millennials. Oh, yeah, you're on the line. I love screens. You do. It's my favorite thing.

The world is at your fingertips. I was watching Bo Burnham talk about how every night we all decide we have the knowledge of the world at our fingertips. Do we keep learning from it or go to bed? Oh, that's an easy decision. Go to bed. Oh, I struggle going to bed. I don't sleep well, but it's different than going to bed.

Like, if I get on something and I want to learn about it more, I'm watching video, I'm like, I can't go to sleep. I'm fighting. I'm holding my eyes open. Like, that's me. Mine's always like, I don't care that much. I'm going to bed.

What are you watching on TikTok now mostly? Like what comes up? Oh. I'd have to go think. I haven't been on that much. What? The world's greatest entertainment source? No, I know.

I'm saying in the last week I haven't been on as much, so it's not top of mind. I'm on right now. You guys don't even know. I'm watching. I got an air pod in the right ear doing two things.

once. I mean, mine typically is a lot of ADHD stuff or household hacks. I like stuff like that. Eddie yours? Man, unfortunately, mine right now stuck on a lot of Charlie Kirk stuff. Oh, yeah. A lot of updates on the...

Yeah, that's why I'm taking a break. It's too much. Good for you guys for taking breaks. Not you. No, I'm still watching. Yeah, me too. I'm drawn even more in. Can you imagine if we had social media when 9-11 happened,

all the conspiracy theories? Oh, my gosh. It would never end. It would never end. I mean, that's what's splitting our country is not just social media, but foreign influences in social media that are extra polarizing, already polarizing situations. Because that's what it is.

I've talked about this before. It's all of these accounts, these bots that polarize the real people, make them even more polar because what happens is there will be a line of like, this is what's polar. And then people always try to beat that because they want the clicks. Because you know what's not getting clicks? Sensibility. Sensibility doesn't get clicks.

It doesn't get promoted within the algorithm. Saying sensible things that make sense, you don't see those because, again, they're not promoted because they're not getting the clicks and the views. And what you always want to do, if you're someone who is making money off of streams, clicks views, is be more outrageous than the next person, or have a bolder opinion or a hotter take.

And that also happens in sports, but sports isn't what's dividing our country. So, yeah, and it's Russia and China, and anywhere these bots are that are these fake profiles that are making even the polarizing people have to be even more polarizing because I will be on the internet

and I'll start to feel like that's the real world and it ain't the real world. Like what happens on my Twitter feed is not what's happening in the real world because I can go up and meet anybody and find things to like talk about things we have in common.

Yes. On Twitter, nope. Not at all. I just told my, I was talking to my son about this because he's like, man, everyone's so mad at each other right now.

And I'm like, if we walked outside and talked to our neighbors, we wouldn't be mad at each other. And your neighbors that could be possibly completely different than you on the political spectrum. It wouldn't even come up. We would even know who, I even know who's different in the political spectrum in our neighborhood, but we wouldn't even talk about that. It wouldn't even come up. Man, we just had that conversation like two days ago.

So, yeah, that's what's up. Are you guys raking leaves at your house yet? No, I don't rake leaves. I never do. Do your kids? Uh-uh. We just kind of let them be part of the lawn and then eventually they just go away. Are you getting leaves yet?

Are they falling? Yeah, it's starting to. USA Today has a story with fall steadily approaching. There's something you ought to know. You don't have to wage war on your leaves. Most can stay put in your lawn and shelter. I don't know what that means. Oh, and shelter wildlife.

Yeah, shelter wildlife. Oh, there you go. Yeah, so. So I should leave them for my dear? You could if you want an excuse not to have to rake the leaves. What is happening? Why is there a frog? Is that right?

A frog. Did you all not hear ribbet? Yeah, did you hear the frog? A frog or a cricket? I thought I heard like a cricket or something. Well, I guess I don't know what makes that sound. Sounds like we're by a creek. Is that a frog or like a cricket?

I heard like a cricket. You sound like a frog. I thought it was a frog. This is like that. That's a frog. What is happening here? What's happening here? Is there a frog in here?

I thought that was rare. Are you hitting a button? Ray, is that a button? No, not really a funny joke to do that. Ray's like, I would never. Mike, are you hitting a button? No. It's coming from where you're at.

All my stuff is sad. No, I felt like it's coming from out there, and I'm over here by him. Stop. That's over there. Okay, I heard it that time. Mike has it. I don't have it.

Look, his hands are up. Bobby, it's by you, dude. Is somebody's phone? His hands are up. All my things are silenced. Yeah, I bought this on TikTok. It's his little... You dummy.

Oh, you did it? Like, look. Dude, that is awesome. And so you push it. And if you just, no one knows, people start to look around for it. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Can you take that on the plane?

Oh, no. Please. No, you're going to get the plane thrown in because they're going to be like wildlife's on the plane. They're going to search us. The captain comes out looking for the frog. Tell me this isn't hilarious. Here, listen to it again. Wait, you bought that on TikTok?

Yeah, it was one of those nights where the world was my fingertips. And instead of learn more, I did buy this. And it's tiny. That's why you guys can see it because I'm doing like a pinch. Yeah, but when you had it down low, like now we can hear where it's coming from. That is amazing.

Yeah. But when you had it in the chair. I know. You all start, Ray! Everybody started yelling at Ray. Mike's hands are up in the air. We turned into the comments section, man.

Just like that. So when you bought that, was it labeled a frog or a cricket? I bought like three of them. That's a frog. I think that might be a frog. Yeah. It's got to be a frog.

I bought a duck one. And I was chasing Stanley around with it. it. Would he react to it? He was just confused what it was. He liked us. He hated it. And then it broke.

They're cheap. This was like four bucks. I'm buying one. That's it. I'm buying one. You can have this one. Really? What am I going to do with it?

Take it on the plane. No way. Dude, you can do that anywhere. Oh my gosh. That would be so funny. A press conference would be hilarious. Anything would be hilarious. A restaurant, watch the whole restaurant look around.

I'm like, did you guys hear that? Yeah, that's pretty good, huh? It sounds pretty real. It sounds very real. Yeah, it's like four bucks. I'll put it down. Sorry, Ray. No, I'm just saying as an audio guy,

I never mess with audio and play tricks like that. I thought because we were talking about wildlife, maybe you like sound effect. Oh, got it. Like right now you came and see it, but if I were talking, it's like from afar, sounds like something's kind of there.

And then Amy, you thought it was on the other side of the room? I did. Yeah. I just walked into that leave story to kind of get into that. Figured. Thank you. Apparently divorce rate is a myth. We hear it all the time from marriage skeptics. Half of all marriages end in divorce.

But according to USA Today, that's actually not true at all. According to new USA Today data, divorce rates in the U.S. have actually been declining since the 1980s, not rising. Part of it, too, well, people are getting married later. So they're a little more mature. Their brains are a little more developed. and that actually keeps divorces from happening because if you're older, smarter, wiser,

you tend to not get married until you're more ready. Not that there aren't divorces that happen from that, but you got to think 50 years ago, you're 19 and not married. That's weird. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe, what's 50 years?

Probably not 50 anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I mean, because women didn't have a lot of like, I think even 50 years ago, like as a woman, if I wanted to get an apartment, I would have to have either a husband or my dad, like, co-signed for me. Like, I couldn't do things. 50 years ago, that's like 1975.

That's why I stopped to go, maybe it's like 1960. Oh. Because we're getting older. 50 years ago was 75? I mean, 50 years ago. 85, 95, 05, 1525. Oh, my goodness. He's right.

I'd use my fingers. That's crazy, dude. But I wonder what year, hold on, let me Google. What year did women? have to stop getting. I would just say how old in 1975 was the average woman to get married. Sign on an apartment.

Why are you doing such a complicated? Because that's what's in my head. Oh bam. Guess what, guys? Check this out. It's called the Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974. Women in 1974 were officially no longer required by law to have a male relative co-sign on an apartment.

So, bame. 51 years. 51 years. Do you one, okay, so I was one year off. Hey, right over the threshold, just as we thought. But I mean, isn't that crazy to believe that in the 70s, I would have had to have a male cosign, a male relative? Yeah.

Let me ask my question here. Hello, good morning. I have a question for you. In 1970, what was the average age of the woman getting married? And then also 1980 and 1990. Good morning. Sure thing. Let's take a little time travel dive into those numbers.

So back in 1970, the average age. for women getting married in the U.S. was around 20 to 21 years old. By the time we got to 1980, that it crept up to about 22 or so. And then in 1990, it was roughly around 23 to 24. Basically, each decade nudged that average up by a year or two as people started marrying a bit later. What about today? What's the average age of a woman getting married today? So as of right now, in 2025, the average age for women getting married in the U.S. is about 28 and a half. So it's definitely crept up a few more years since the 90s. Would you do men in the same 70s, 80s, 20s, today?

Absolutely. Let's run through the timeline for men as well. So back in the 1970s, the average age for men getting married was roughly around 23 to 24. By the 1980s, that creaked up to about 25. And then by the 1990s, it was around 26 or so. Fast forward to the 2000s, it hit around 27. and today in the 2020s, 20-25-ish, it's about 30 on average. So, like was women, the average age for men has steadily climbed each decade.

Let me know if you need any more details. So same. Which is why divorce rates are also lowering because people are getting married later. And most people are a little wiser as they get older. Like they know what they want. Yeah. I don't think it's all just idiots getting married young. I think it's you don't even know who you are young.

Yeah, your brain. I mean, and now we know. Back then we certainly didn't, but our brains don't even fully developed until 25. But is that harder, too, to kind of adjust a little bit to, you know, when you're talking to your wife, your spouse, you kind of, you're like give and take stuff? I don't know what you're asking. It's kind of harder when you're older to, like, give up certain things because you've been doing things a certain way for so long. Yeah, look at me. I was 39 or 40 when I got married.

Right. So what do you? I don't understand the question. So, like, I feel like it would be harder. to get married when you're older because you're set in your ways and you don't want to like. And I think that's a great point. I think though I would meet that with since you're set in your ways, you know what you want in your ways. Like you're not going to grab something that's completely opposite of your ways.

But it's still a different person. Like your spouse is always different than you. So like there are things that you're going to argue about, things that you don't agree on. And then you're like, oh, well, I am who I am. And when you're younger, you're just like, yeah, I guess I can kind of grow into that. And then slowly. But I think if you're older, though, your community. you're kidding about those things for the most part before you even get married.

True. And then when you're older, hopefully you mature past, I am who I am. I don't know. I don't know. I'm wired this way. I'm me. You married me late. Yeah.

So yeah, I understand what you're saying, but I think the maturity allows you to express or show that you have wiring. Yeah. And you probably come to terms of that before you get married because you're older. Yeah, because I got married kind of young, and I just remember being like, no, I'm this way, but then slowly like, yeah, that's not even important to me. And kind of mold into someone else. We kind of mold into what each other needs versus kind of like when we're older now. Yeah, even if you get married young and stay married as a couple, like say y'all are married 50 years, you're going to be married to a different wife and just being married to a different husband over and over again.

It's like you're swinging. Whoa. Like you're swinging in the future. With the same person. But that's how it's how. you evolve together. Yeah. And yeah, I don't think you ever, regardless of how well-adjusted you are, don't fight.

Like, just having a relationship is difficult. Just being with somebody that much. It doesn't matter if it's a best friend, a roommate, a wife, for sure. Because the only person that I agree with all the time is you. It's me. And I'm stupid, and I'm wrong a lot. So, I'm- Conflict is good.

Conflict is needed. I don't know if it's good. never disagree with you. But if it's needed, then it's, I mean, I think it's healthy to have conflict. It's how you engage in the conflict. So you say it's needed. I guess we're kind of saying the same thing. Yeah.

In a perfect world, there would be no conflict. So I don't think conflict is inherently good. But I think because we are flawed beings, it is needed. So, we're kind of saying the same thing. I mean, you'd rather a passive person may not. I understand, like, I'm talking about in a relationship, the ability to go to someone and say, hey, this is how this made me feel and engage in that because some people are very passive and choose not to and then build up resentment because they don't want conflict or they're

very critical and there's a lot of criticism and there's no healthy conflict. It's so I think. Yeah, I think your point is that people are flawed but in a vacuum where there are no flaws. I don't think conflict is good because conflict is not good generally speaking all around the world. Well, yeah, I thought we were just talking about relationships though. Yeah, but even then, I don't think conflict is inherently good. In a vacuum, there would be no conflict, but there is conflict because we don't live in vacuum. Well, I wasn't in a vacuum. I was just talking about, like, in our relationships, I think it's like right now, we're having good conversation.

I think it's needed. It's good weekend. Yeah, so it's needed. I think it's needed because people are screwed up. So we're not going to assign a moral value to it. It's not good or bad, but it's needed. I'll give you that. I would accept that.

Okay. I can understand not wanting to assign something in more. moral value? Yeah, I would understand that. Okay. It's needed because we're flawed. Sure. But I don't want to...

It also shows that you care, either about yourself or about the other person. Like, if you're just sort of... You ever just get in the mood to fight? I don't know. You do, though. You do, for sure. It's like, you know, I really haven't been challenged in a while, so I'm just like, I'm looking for something.

I know. Yeah. But you can't pick on a person that's actually agreeing with you. It's funny because, like, I remember in college, there was a guy that, like, we'd be going out on Friday. He'd be like, man, I don't know. just want to fight tonight. I'm like, like, that's weird.

But you're kind of like that, but not physically. Yeah, I just need a verbal confrontation right now. Like I just need to stretch out a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Like really, really get into it. Yeah. Yeah. All right, we got to go.

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