The Bobby Bones Show - THURS PT 2: Raymundo Calls Out Dustin Lynch + Bobby’s Bad News On His Surgery + Amy Attempts Another Draft Kings Vision

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Raymundo wants to know why Dustin Lynch was at a frat party at his age. Bobby talks about his experience with Dustin Lynch and having trouble connecting with him on a personal level. We investigate wh...y he is doing these shows and if anything, something weird is happening. Bobby shares bad news regarding his upcoming surgery and Dancing with the Stars. A celeb is saying that the moon landing was faked. A caller requests that Amy have another DraftKings vision as she’s been on a hot streak. Can she do it again?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:19 Okay. Ooh, 40. Well, it's not exactly as it seems. This is a question Ray brought to me. So what's the deal? Yeah, what am I saying? Everything? I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah, so anyways, I'm on Instagram. I don't even know what he's saying. But do you know something that we're not supposed to know, Ray? No. It's public information. Okay, then let it rip. So I see Dustin Lynch at a frat party. You're at the frat party?
Starting point is 00:03:42 No, he was at University of Arizona and he was performing. And it almost looked like it was a surprise. Maybe there was some local DJ and then he hopped on stage and they got fog machines and stuff. And it was all cool. So I thought maybe a surprise. And then I was thinking, well, maybe he got paid to do it. Then I guess if you're getting paid, who cares if you do a frat party and you're 40 years old? And then he posted, if any other frats want me to swat me to swing.
Starting point is 00:04:05 swing by and do your frat house, let me know. And I'm like, this guy's on the frat party circuit right now? 40? That's wild. When he said, do your frat house. Yeah, what did you mean? What did he mean? I would think that, because I know Dustin now has become pole party guy, and I think he's made a pretty lucrative living at it.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Obviously, he's putting out a bunch of songs, because he has like, yep, yep, that's where it's at. Or he has small town boy like me. So got a bunch of hits, can sell shows. But I think he has found a niche and it started, this is just me guessing. It started with Luke Bryan's Closette de Playa or whatever that's called. Crashed my Playa. Yeah, whatever it's called, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Would you say Class of a restaurant? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get those mixed up. I knew it was in Mexico. And so every year he does that pool party. And I think he's seen now that there's kind of like an empty space for someone who plays. pull parties and can, I think he's even doing like dance mixes of his country songs. And so I think this has kind of been his thing.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Not that a frat party and a pull party is the same thing, but I think that in the Venn diagram of the world, they cover that some of the same people are there. So, and also I think it's cool for socials. So I don't think he's like going to frat parties and like hooking up a college girl. I don't think that's the case. Why not? Well, and that's a different conversation. Because that'd be weird.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Why would it be weird? Because how old is he? He's 40. Are we sure he's 40? I thought Ray said he was 40. Okay, but again, are we sure he's 40? Yeah, he's 40. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Okay, well, because... He's 40? Yes. Did you think he was older? That's the thing. No, younger. I know, but like we're getting older, so like artists are... No, I know, but he looks like a porcelain doll.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah. Porcelain doll of perfect teeth. He's aging well. I'm not sure that he's not the devil and just never ages. Oh. It just always stays young and, like, beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, I would say the last.
Starting point is 00:06:04 last 10 years, he kind of looks same. He's single, like still single? Dude, here's what I like about Dustin. There's a couple things about Dustin. I like Dustin a lot. He's a very kind, sweet guy. Almost impossible to connect with, though. Like him and I have had a bunch of experiences outside of work and we've been places or he's so nice. But he's so hard to get like to that next level with. and it's probably just protection on his part from anybody. But I really have never been able to connect with him. We have been at places. We were like at Bobos at Eritay.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And we're both, you're trapped there for a while because you have an IV in you. And you're next to people? Well, maybe in a back room. Yeah. Or a curtain. Oh my. Whoa. Well, not a bit like.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Okay. Fair enough. They put people of notoriety so people. Dustin now we're sitting behind the curtain. Okay. Okay, whatever that means to you I definitely am not famous. He's actually famous,
Starting point is 00:07:08 but I think they are like, oh, people might know Bobby, so we'll put him in a place where he doesn't feel uncomfortable, so people are like staring at him. And my wife was there. So we're both all hooked up, and Dustin's back there,
Starting point is 00:07:18 and we're there for like an hour together. And this is not any sort of shot. I like Dustin a lot. But that's why I think he's a devil. He won't let anybody connect with him or me, because I don't think, I think he might just be a perfect, kind, sweet, perfect looking
Starting point is 00:07:34 human being. And you can't get in. Are you... Are you... I'm saying this with love. You can't get in. I try to get in. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:46 With love? Safe space? No. Maybe. Possibly. We'll see how it goes. Depends where you say. Okay. And how you say... I don't give dedicated love in safe spaces when I know something's going to come about to hurt me. No, no. It shouldn't hurt you. You just say no offense. I cannot be the only person.
Starting point is 00:07:58 No offense. Okay, well, that is at least I know I'm a different. That way you know what you're going to. No, I just never. I'm just checking the temperature, you know? All right. Stick thermometer on my butt. What's it say?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Okay. Go ahead. Like, it's interesting hearing you talk about someone can't connect. I know. I do see the irony. Okay. Because I, you continue. I don't want to cut you off.
Starting point is 00:08:20 That's really the, you hear me. Speak freely. No, I want you to speak freely about what you mean. That was my thought. Go. Hearing you talk about someone being difficult to connect with. No, just say it. Is ironic.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Interesting. Because? You might say that. Don't even dance around. Don't even dance around. Just say it. Typically, you are the one people have a difficult time connecting with. For sure.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I agree with that. And I think that's why a little bit of it to me is weird because I'm usually the one and I'm very protective about I don't want to even like people because what's their intentions, what's their motivations? Who knows why they want to be my friend? Like that's been set in so long. But I'm also not like, you meet him, you're like, this is the nicest guy ever. So you think he'd be easier to connect with.
Starting point is 00:09:13 He's always smiling. Always. Like, there's not a brighter light. So that's why I think maybe he's not real. For the devil. There's a possibility he's not a human. He's brought to the earth. But what a ticket.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Like, I mean, just think about he goes to these frat houses. I don't think this is something he does every week. I think it's probably a couple strategic. Okay. Yeah. But these frat dudes are like, oh, so cool. Dustin Lynch is here.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And then that frat dude's like, hey, where's my girl? Oh, Dustin Lynch got her. Dang. No. I don't know that that's true or happening. But Ramundo, was that your question? Is that like, why is he doing it? No, it was really just, why does George Strait not play frat houses?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Well, he's older than frat houses. Well, George Strait, though. and it's a weird comparison here. George Strait, though, already has his brand and he's not having to grow. He doesn't need to grow. George Strait is just living off of what George Strait has done for 50 years.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Dawson Lynch is still young and like modifying his career and his trajectory and his path and what he wants to do. And also George Strait didn't have to do social media so I think there's a big difference there. I think 40 is different depending on also the aesthetic of your 40.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Also, George Strait showing up to different house people would lose their minds. They'd lose their mind. Like, it would be... But George wouldn't be a war. Fire hazard. Okay, so you know how the All-American Rejects, they're doing their house stuff? They're old. Yeah, so the lead singer, he's 41.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And that's my point. Like, there's 40, 41, and you still look like you're contemporary, and then there's not. And I think Dustin Lynch is very much that. And all-American rejects are that. What was cool about them is that they were famous back in the day and, like, we're back, and they're doing house parties when they'd already been super famous. I just assume with Dustin there's some sort of strategy here more so than just going to frat parties maybe that same strategy that all American rejects did all American rejects did not have this as a full strategy at the beginning I think they literally played a house Mike you could back me up on this and they
Starting point is 00:11:12 were so surprised and they just kept doing it and they just kept doing it they played like a birthday party or something for somebody in California and it blew up and they were like oh let's do it again that's what I'm saying Dustin's like man that was so much fun let's do another frat house And I'm sure they pay well, right? Oh, they're paying. Yes. And if he's already there for some other reason, why not hop in? He's doing a lot of, what are, he's doing, he's doing a lot of, like, shows.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And then maybe while he's in town, he's doing fred houses and pool parties. I don't know. Smart. So Delta, Delta, Delta, Delta, hit him up. Well, is he doing sorority parties? That video I saw was about 90% women, but it said any frats interested. So I was kind of confused by that. Well, because the girls go to the,
Starting point is 00:11:56 fraternity parties. All frat party. All parties on college campuses are pretty much guys and girls. I guess unless it's a gay party. And then those that I went to, there were still some girls. I didn't go to any parties, guys. I didn't go to me. I mean, that's just smart, dude.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So your whole thing is to do it to hook up with 21 year olds. Heck yes. I don't even know if he has a girlfriend. He may have a girlfriend and it's not about that at all. But I don't think that he's looking to, I mean, that's tricky. That's tricky ground because you could be with, there could be a 21-year-old at the frat party or there could be an 18-year-old.
Starting point is 00:12:32 It doesn't matter. She's 18. They're both bonifference. I'm not saying weird, weird, but not illegal. 17-year-olds. I know, but still 18 would feel weird. But I don't understand the difference between a Dustin Lynch show where there's a bunch of girls and a frat party where there's a bunch of girls. What's the difference?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Because a frat party, you can, it's more intimate. You're drinking beers with them. They're all young there. No old and no way young. They're all young. Right. You don't have to go. A Dustin Lynch show, there's also 40-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And 50-year-olds and 8-year-olds. But if you wanted to find a girl at one of his shows, he could. I mean, I know you're saying. Like, when we were seniors in high school, we would go to some of those parties. So you got, there are some high schoolers in the mix. I don't even remember how we would get in. But all the Texas country singers, they would do a lot of fraternity parties. And I don't think they were like.
Starting point is 00:13:23 You want to know how you got in, Amy? You were a female. fraternities will let females in. Lunchbox tonight. Because you're an expert right now and I'm glad I'm glad since you're an expert we can talk to you. Thank you. You're welcome. So were you in a frat? No. Okay. But we would go like watch Pat Green or
Starting point is 00:13:38 like they were playing the fraternity. Yes. Okay. So Amy need to talk more right now. I know. I guess I was speaking of like my high school self. But yes, at A&M I was a Kappa. Can I ask you a creepy question? And I was a K.A. Oh boy. Like Southern Bell.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I just need to set that out. This is going to be a creepy question. but not with my desires or intentions but by the way Ray I think it's a strategy because Dustin's doing like a bunch of DJ stuff I think and it's like that's what you do at sorority and frat parties I don't think he's doing full concerts with the full band and I think that's it
Starting point is 00:14:10 yeah and if you got fog machines and some strobel lights why not use them on a Friday night yes and I say in the best way I think Dustin Lynch is the devil because he's so nice and for some reason I just can't get through it just sounds bad saying the devil because that means like it's like
Starting point is 00:14:25 Like he's evil Yeah Okay fine Like the root of him Like he's a demon Like he's a That's better I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:31 But not in a bad way He's here Then why not make him like an angel Because that sounds weird I think Dustin Lynch was an angel Okay what were you gonna say It's supernatural Let's say
Starting point is 00:14:40 The creepy thing Yeah What's creepy Okay I got just a creepy legal scenario to run by you Let's say You are
Starting point is 00:14:49 I don't even want to say Dustin Lynch Okay But let's say You're at a frat party And you go and you're 25 and you hook up with somebody and you're even like, can I see your ID? I want to make sure you're old enough hook up with. And they give you their ID and it says they're 19 so it's legal.
Starting point is 00:15:01 What if they give you their ID and they lie? And it's a fake ID? Yep. And they're actually 17. But you asked for ID. Yeah. Like what's the law if they've told you and you looked at ID, everything possible and then they're still 17. Yeah. So that's on, that's some misrepresentation of age. I hear you. But do you still do? No. You can, no. You're telling me. I don't know about that. In a court of law. No, no, no, no. If you even did your due diligence to check an ID, like, how are you, what are you supposed
Starting point is 00:15:30 to be like the grocery store and know, like, where the little tafts are. But that's my point. It's such, it's something so serious. Morgan, do you have an answer? I don't think it's on the person, whoever, like, as long as you. It's on the decedver. But is there a thing where if you're about to hook up and you look at an ID, that's enough? I don't think.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yes. No, no, no. Amy, I'm looking at Christopher Van Wagner Law. law and it says, answer, if a girl tells you she's 18, you find that later, she's not, you're still out of luck. Did she show you an ID? It says, there is no defense in, this is just Wisconsin. This is the first one I Googled. The state Supreme Court has said that our laws are intended to protect children. They lie. It doesn't matter. You still can be charged. Here's the thing. If you're at a party like that, it's not like he saw her out at a school, like her school.
Starting point is 00:16:16 You know, like you're at a college party. You should be of age in college, most likely. And you ask for an ID. She presents it. So then in this case, Exhibit A, fake ID shows up. And that's when the judge has to be like, oh, wow, that looks legit, you know? But how do you prove that she showed you a fake ID? Well, I don't take a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Oh, so you do that. Oh, yeah, have evidence. That's important. Well, this sounds like a lot of steps before you look up. Well, if you're wondering, you probably should. Yeah, like, this doesn't sound romantic. I need your ID. Romance is not really what happens at frat parties, guys.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's mostly drunk and just finding holes. That's true. That's finding holes. Let me read you this. Like any one. I'm not just scoring that law. What if the minors lie, why the minors lie does not protect the older person?
Starting point is 00:17:04 The legal principle behind holding the older person accountable is that the law of views minors is not having the capacity to legally consent to sexual activity. The state's interest is protecting children and outweighs any deceit the minor might have used. Okay, well, I don't know about that. That's tricky. Tricky, tricky. Yeah, that's why I asked because you could check in every way possible. And so you're 21 and the person's saying they're 18. That's not something, that's not even weird, right? 21 and 18, but they're actually 17 or 16 and they look older and they're like, no, here's my ID and you've done everything possible to actually make sure that you are abiding by the law. still you weren't.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah, it still doesn't matter. California. They can show you a fake ID. You're still responsible. Wow. Yes. I think that's the right law, by the way. I think that's the right law.
Starting point is 00:17:56 But it's tricky. It's a gray area in there. Yeah, $5 is gray. Like, if someone presents an ID, you're like, okay, I did all the steps. Like, I can't go to the- But you could also take advantage of it the other way, too. Like, this is just going to be creepier. But you get a 16-year-old of fake ID.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And you're like, just show me this. And I would. would have thought that. Ew, gosh. Yeah. That's what I'm saying it protects super perves. Well, then the 16 year old would be like, they got me that idea. They gave me that ID and told me to show it to them. But they don't have to, no, because they could be found out by the parent and the kid can be defending it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So I think as gray as this law is that we're talking about initially, it's still protecting kids, which I like, because it could actually be worse if you took advantage of this law not being in place. True. Like, let's say there's a relationship. a Jerry Seinfeld. Remember when Jerry Seinfeld wasn't in his 30s? He was 18-year-old. That's so weird. Like, how did that just slip under the, like, how- social media? I know, but I still watch Seinfeld and like, don't think about that.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Got grandfathered in. Anything creepy before social media. We just accepted. That's what happened. We ignore it. So Jerry Seinfeld was 38 and he was dating a 17-year-old. Damn it. That's just... How? That's... He met her and they went out. I think you had pick her up at school and stuff, too. Yeah, yeah, that's 17. Like, you got to talk to the parents, right? Like parents have to know about that. At the time, their relationship was legal
Starting point is 00:19:19 because the age of consent in New York was 17. Man. That is so bizarre. Come on, Cherry. That's so bizarre. How bizarre. How bizarre? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Interesting conversation. Priscilla and Elvis, like she was like 14 or something. Yeah, these guys always have stories too. We didn't do it until their birthday when it was legal. Priscilla says that though That's the weird part You're gonna protect your dude Dude, you're gonna protect your dude
Starting point is 00:19:48 No you own all the estate though Oh god It can tarnish the estate That's different Yeah But I mean Then that story already tarnished the estate a little bit Again grandfathered in
Starting point is 00:19:59 Before social media I don't know When I watched that movie It kind of changes your mind Yeah like I For half an hour And it was Priscilla's perspective You're right
Starting point is 00:20:08 And then he's still Elvis For half an hour And then an Elvis song Comes on a cold 95 And you're like Oh yeah Oh, God in a trap. You ain't nothing about that.
Starting point is 00:20:16 We're like, there's a jam. Who cares how creepy it was back then? You're so right. Yeah. A lot of creepiness just got grandfathered into life. Anyway, that was my question about when Ray asked me about Dustin Lynch. I wanted to present, there's nothing creepy happening. I think it's just a modified pool party, which he's found a niche and has actually thriving.
Starting point is 00:20:35 He plays these Vegas pool parties, which he's getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a show to do. It's crazy. Like, good for him. I don't think there's anything bad and nefarious, creepy happening. but then my mind goes to there are creepy things that happen and how, who's protected? And I'm glad that it's always protect kids
Starting point is 00:20:51 even if the law's gray because people would find ways around that. Heck, I found a way around it in 30 seconds. So, I don't know what this is about me. I don't know. Jason Voorhees. Are you familiar with Jason Voorhees? Sounds familiar.
Starting point is 00:21:09 You went to high school with them? Nope. No, he's the guy, he's Jason. from the Mass. Oh, okay, that's his name,
Starting point is 00:21:15 Jason. Yeah, he's doing a Peloton themed classes for Halloween. So it's, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:21 well, it's not really him, it's spooky, Amy. Yeah. Halloween season. There's a,
Starting point is 00:21:25 which is weird because I signed up for Harvey Weinstein CrossFit. Oh, that sounds fun. That would be what is it
Starting point is 00:21:33 making you do? CrossFit. What do you have to do, Bobby? Ew. I do Bill Cosby. Don't. Jazzercise.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It's all it's horrible people doing this crap for Halloween. So what is this? Just a trainer with a mask on? Yeah, basically. Peloton members get a special treat this Halloween. Friday 13th theme class
Starting point is 00:21:54 is currently available where they pedal to survive Jason Voorhees. Oh, that's cool. Like he's chasing him. Yeah. Oh. I got to get my bike up. My ankle's been so bad. I can't even bike. Oh, really? Oh, man. You need to get surgery. Yeah. So running can't do. Hadn't been able to do for two years. Was able to bike for a bit.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Can't even do that now. Bad news on the side. surgery. You know, because the deal was not next week, but the week after they're doing it. Anybody that's been on Dancing with the Stars come sit in the audience, it's going to be a big show. And I was kind of excited to go back. I was talking to my agent yesterday, too, and he was like, man, you should go. He said, because the show is like killing it. There's like a whole, like Dancing with Stars is kind of bad because it goes through cycles. It goes through, it's cool, it's lame. It's cool. It's lame. And it's doing excellent in the ratings because you should go back.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And I said, I had this surgery. And he said, well, you guys said move the surgery. It's not like you're getting a heart transplant. Push it back. Yeah. And so I went to my wife last night and I was like, hey, I think I may move my surgery back a week. And she's like, you can't. And I said, why?
Starting point is 00:22:59 She goes, because you have the opery the next Friday. Oh, dang. And it's an opera for charity winners. And so you can't move that because they're flying in. So bump in another week. Thanksgiving. Oh, and then Christmas. So push it a month
Starting point is 00:23:15 Can't you do like You've changed That's good though This is a good sign you've changed What? No I know I would have done it during Thanksgiving No worry Exactly that's my point
Starting point is 00:23:22 He'd be like Thanksgiving I know but I mean still I feel like It just shows how important She is and her family is to him Because he would normally be like Oh no it's okay Like I gotta get it over Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:23:36 And avoid all that type of intimacy You know Yeah yeah When is Thanksgiving The fourth Thursday of November. No, it's literally on Thanksgiving. I couldn't have my surgery because it's literally on Thanksgiving. Can't do that. Yeah, they don't do surgery on Thanksgiving. Oh. So I appreciate what you said about me, but a lot of it was I can't because it's
Starting point is 00:23:54 literally Thanksgiving. You can do it on, they only do it on Thursdays? This one, yeah, he only does like two days a week. Yeah. And then are we playing the Opry on Thursday? No, Friday. Oh, so the day after. You're playing the Opry on the Friday after Thanksgiving? No, the week before. Oh. The 14th. So you get my surgery. Yeah. If I were to move it back.
Starting point is 00:24:18 But these charity winners are coming in for it. I don't want to move the opery anyway. Yeah. I can't do that. So I'm back to, I can't move it. But do I go on crutches? Yes. You can fly on it.
Starting point is 00:24:31 And get a blood clot and die. No. Exactly. You don't want to risk all that. I mean. But we had a listener that flew no problem. Where'd they call from, though? The Great Beyond.
Starting point is 00:24:42 We didn't ask. Sometimes says the city they're in. Early gates. There it said heaven. Okay. So why don't you ask the doctor? Would I be able to fly to the furthest region? I also don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Isn't it just a pain in the butt to be on crutches? And I'm having to get out at Uber's. I'm sitting in an audience. Yeah, it's going to be a pain. But even your agent was like, you should go. Yeah. He was like, you should go because he was like, you should go. then you can do like go and be a guest on Rich Eisen's show and look at these relationships.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I don't want to go me on crutches the whole time. It's a conversation. I don't want your sympathy. I don't want your sympathy. That's even worse. It is a conversation piece though. It is. No, the conversation starters are a wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:25:28 There you go. Do all that. But that's even worse, dude. Do that. Like if you're going to, if you're going to do it, do it. Heck yeah. Then you get a handicap sticker. Sticker and taxi.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That way you get to roll up the ramp and the cab driver has to roll you up and roll you down. And then you can complain about places that don't have accessibility. Yes. Can I sue? Can I sue? You can probably sue. There's no ramp here?
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's leaning towards that I'm not going. And that sucked because I really wanted to go, but I got to be responsible. Can you just push the surgery to 2026? No. Oh, yeah, baby. Easy. Easy. Easy.
Starting point is 00:26:06 And easy. That's not. That maybe. Cruz. Heartletch could be dead. Oh, yeah, Cruz. Everybody, easy. All right. Thank you. Amy, on do your story.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Yeah. Did you see Kim Kardashian is saying that the 1969 moon landing never happened. She said this on the latest episode of the Kardashian. She was talking to a friend during the episode telling her all about how it was completely fake and acted out. And then producers went to her in like the one-on-one interviews part of the episode and like, hey, we just want to clarify something you were saying during a different scene. and she backed up her stance and is adamantly one of the believers that we did not land on the moon. I don't put me in the full believer, but I do, I've questioned it for a while. There are a lot of factors, a lot of things that don't line up with what they've been telling us,
Starting point is 00:26:59 with other circumstantial, like we didn't watch it live, we watched a projector onto it, basically a sheet, which they then shot the sheet for tele... There's just a lot of weird things. Going through that belt We can't do it now. Yeah, we could easily solve this by going right now to the moon and putting a man on there.
Starting point is 00:27:19 We can't. But I'm not fully, we didn't go. But for a long time, I've been saying, guys, I think there's a lot of reasons to believe that we didn't go. There's other stuff I've started to trickle believe. Like one thing she kept bringing up to her friend was about the Buzz Aldrin stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Like as he's aged, Aldrin, sorry. As he's aged, the stuff, he has more and more slip-ups. Yeah, but the thing is. is he's aging and what happens when you age? Slip-ups. Yeah. But it's still the reality under there. At one point he was like, I'm an alien.
Starting point is 00:27:48 We're like, dude, you're just old. He said that? No, but I'm just saying it could be anything. And poor Buzz, did you see he lost his wife? Yeah, they've been married two years and she passed. They only been married two years. She was younger, I think. Yeah, she's 66 and he's like 90.
Starting point is 00:28:03 How did she die? You ask the wife and be like, well, she's dead now. But I mean, you ask someone real close to him like, what do you tell you about the moon? Because they know the truth. But then he was also like 90 when he was. he met her. So he said, well, he said he was an alien. True. Yeah, there are other things that I start to believe we weren't, listen, guys, we're not
Starting point is 00:28:22 told the truth for different reasons by our government. You just feel like everything's a lie. A lot is. A lot, I bet. And maybe not full lies, but at least partial lies. Amy, I'm going to text you this. Okay. Because I don't want to say it.
Starting point is 00:28:33 But there's a lot of this that I'm just like, nope. Well, let's see. Let's see what any gets. Oh, really? Yeah. no way like Bobby doesn't no
Starting point is 00:28:46 that would hurt me I know and it's not but yeah that would hurt you is it something you don't believe now
Starting point is 00:28:53 it would just like my soul would be crowd like I just he then who do you trust Robin Roberts is an alien her and buzz both came from planet
Starting point is 00:29:02 Volvatar that can't be not the whole thing not the whole thing but there are elements of it that for sure are not and there are also
Starting point is 00:29:10 other people that I very much trust, I'll leave it there. But that's the new one that I'm starting to go, hmm, I don't think we were told the truth, but we're never told the truth. We just got to think like, why would they tell us anything? Like, why? Well, because the country's a business.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Whatever narrative they want to push, like whatever the agenda is. That's my point. Yeah, well, they need to say, because some stuff is happening and you can't know the real reason why it's happening, so they have to make up a reason why it's happening. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Well, so you want them to tell us the truth? No, my point is, why would they tell us the truth? Like, there's no reason for them to tell us. If it doesn't benefit. Correct. Yes, some stuff could. There have been a bunch of false flag operations, too. Over time, it's been proven where we, like, bomb our own stuff and then blame somebody
Starting point is 00:29:57 else so we get mad at them. Like boats. We've talked about this. Like, we've bombed boat carriers and been like, that's them. Well, but then also, there is a bigger picture at play. Like, we don't know that what that scenario could be potentially protecting us from. That's far worse. Like, we just have to trust.
Starting point is 00:30:13 That's the thing. But then once you find out you've been lied to a bunch, it's hard to trust. Yeah, because it's like, and then I'm sure some of it is, you know, make. Don't trust a single politician. Oh, I don't. A single one. Not a single one. Well.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Not a single one. Until they prove to you they can be trusted. Do not trust a single politician. Their only goal is to get reelected. I think you can prove your way into positivity, but never from the start. Should you trust someone that you don't know? Yeah. just generally speaking you shouldn't trust why would you trust someone
Starting point is 00:30:47 to have the best interest of you in mind that you don't know you trust in your life people you know and you care about and you spend a lot of time with don't trust because someone align and even then they surprise you amen yeah this room alone you know I'm saying know I know I don't know I don't know where I'm wait has anybody watched a house of dynamite on Netflix thank a minute new yes don't say much I won't but I saw on Instagram one of my friends said he watched it. Some of his people didn't like it. This is what I know from it and I haven't seen it. There's a missile bomb coming toward Alaska. Nuclear. Yeah, nuclear and they have to figure out how to make it not nuclear or something, whatever it is. They got to stop it, right? Did you
Starting point is 00:31:25 watch it? Yes. Do you like it? I don't know. Like, yes, I think everybody should watch it. Okay, I'm in. Wait, it's a true story? No. But it's Catherine Bigelow, didn't she do Hurt Locker? Or am I thinking the band, Ban Baner, the wrestler? Is the problem, Morgan, that it's going to feel too real? It feels very real, but the whole purpose of it is to make you think. That's the purpose of it. I love thinking. You do love thinking. Hey Mike, is Catherine Bigelow Hurt Locker? Yes. Boom, I nailed that. I know nothing about movies. Catherine Bigelow? I don't even know that name. And then nobody even got the Ban Ban Bigelow joke because you guys aren't wrestling fans. Yeah, dude, the guy with the red flames on his... Yeah. I know who it is. I just didn't really get it.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah, that's classic. Okay. I think it's all we can get to right now. I think we're done. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.
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Starting point is 00:35:39 I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming. talent. He said if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on
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Starting point is 00:36:55 like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I want to go over to Cassie in Virginia. Hey, Cassie. Hi, how are you all? Pretty good. What can I do for you? Good. So I was wondering if Amy could do a prediction for the game tonight. I feel like she does really well with the animal ones. Like bears skipping and eagle's flying. And tonight we have the- I don't say what the game is. Can't say what the game is.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I don't. I know. You can't lead the witness. Yeah. That was good. Nobody stopped her. I didn't hear it. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. So I understand what you're saying. But we can't, with her visions, these are very precious. When she walks into a room, She turns out the lights and she sits there. I don't want to plant anything into that brain that would affect it in a way that's not true and authentic to whomever you're speaking with. You might actually be psychic. You've hit three in a row.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Well, to be fair, though, your interpretation has won you money. You know, like I just deliver it. Isn't life just an interpretation of events? Whoa. I mean, isn't it? And how you perceive? Yeah. perspective
Starting point is 00:38:15 that's all I'm saying suppose so it's deep yeah it's I just kind of stupid but yeah so are you willing to give us
Starting point is 00:38:23 a little shot here sure do you want to go do you want to go away what time is the game we can't you can't even give me a time we can't plant anything
Starting point is 00:38:33 and there are so many games this weekend as well that I don't want to plant anything into your mind brain heart soul it doesn't know it's for life it's wide
Starting point is 00:38:44 open. Okay. I just want you to go into my office as you often do. Okay. Turn the light out, come up with a vision, and bring it back in the room. Okay. Okay, we can break. Give her time. Yeah, we'll give her some time. Okay. Hey, Cassie, will you stay on the phone? Yeah. Okay, it's going to take a few minutes because this is not something that we can force. Amy has to feel it and come back. Yeah, so give us a few minutes and we'll come back and talk to you, okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right, put her on hold. Okay, Amy Wilson off.
Starting point is 00:39:19 She's now back. It's been a few minutes. How'd it go in there? Good. What'd you do? I have my vision. You turn the lights off? I laid down on your couch, lights are off.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yes. Came to me pretty quickly. Wow. Were you rushing it, though? No. Are you sure? I'm sure. Could you hear things outside the room?
Starting point is 00:39:38 No. Okay. The last three times she's had a vision. I've hit and I've hit really, really well. I'll tell you what the visions were. Once, there was something about a canoe or a rowboat.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Kayak. Kayak. He started with a K. And I was like, kayak, Kyle Tucker, home run. I bet it he had a home run that night in the playoffs. That's crazy. And then it was in like you're like kayaking
Starting point is 00:40:04 in like red water or something or a boat or something. I don't remember. And so I was like a boat, Tampa Bay Bucks, obviously. So I did a double on that vision. Hit again. At two and one. And then she came back and she was like the bear, two bears holding hands. And I was like, well, that's easy.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Bears to cover. And the bears covered. You know what? I'm going all in this time. And not just like in my account. I'm mortgage in my house. Oh, my goodness. Yep.
Starting point is 00:40:28 This is how confident I am in this. No pressure, Amy. I don't want her to feel. She's already had it. Yeah. Whatever. Speak to us about your vision. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:35 So at first I see cats playing. Like, they're having. a good time. Like, you know how sometimes they get up on their hind legs? And they're like, oh, like, oh, pat, pap, pap, bah, bah. But they're being playful, right? And then all the sudden, my focus shifts to another part of the yard where the cats are playing. Like, the cats are in the yard.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And there's, all the cats look the same. And then there's like a dead cat. And then all of a sudden there's a vulture comes in, swoops in, and takes the cat away. And the other cats are like, mortified. Okay, okay, okay. This is where I come in with my strength. This is all I've got.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Because I'm the interpreter. I'm pretty good interpreting. Okay, so it's a cat, dead cat. Cats. Cats playing. Having a good time. Yeah, first they were happy. Yeah, and then they're mortified.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Because what came and got them? I don't know. Like a vulture. Well, you know what they do with the dead animal. Yeah. Yeah. They eat them. Yeah, it took it away.
Starting point is 00:41:42 way. So, here's what I was thinking at first. It was, let me find a team where cats are playing birds. No. What'd you find? Well, the birds are the ravens, but they're not playing the cats. And then I looked over at the lions, but they're playing the Vikings. But the vulture was a final thought.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Maybe we focus more on the cats. He is. He is looking for a cat. Then I looked at the falcons, and they're playing the pay. Patriots, and the Patriots are kind of cool cats, but they're not really cats. You know? So I'm looking, like, what's a packer? That's somebody that packs cheese.
Starting point is 00:42:30 No way. And all my love. I did not know. We're making that up. Huh? Oh, I was just making that up. Is that real? Yeah, they're cheese packers.
Starting point is 00:42:39 No, what? That is not. I thought maybe that'd been like a moving company. Yeah, because they're like cheese heads. Why do you think there were the cheese? I don't, because cheese comes from there. The name Green Bay Packers comes from the team's original sponsor, the Indian packing company, a meat packing company.
Starting point is 00:42:55 You guys acting like you know everything convince us. I didn't know. Where did you get that from? I was literally making it up. The team's founder, Curly Lambo, convinced the company to donate money for uniforms and equipment, and in return, the team named it after the sponsor. It's about meat packing. And you guys were so for sure.
Starting point is 00:43:14 You convinced me. The cat ended up being meat for the vulture. Oh, that's possible. What? He was eating the cat's meat. I don't know, guys. Jags and Raiders? What are raiders?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Well, jags a cab. Doesn't a pirate have a bird on a shoulder? Ooh, a parrot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The captain of the ship always has a parrot on his shoulder. That could be something. Here's the thing. I'm not touching the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:43:43 But it's a vision, though. But what would the... What with the what? Okay, let's look somewhere else. Hold on. The cat would be the jaguar. It's very clear to me the cats were playing. Yeah, we got that part.
Starting point is 00:43:55 They're having a good time, yeah. So the cats are what? The Bengal cats? Bengals, Flikos injured. I'm just talking about the vision, dude. Oh, yeah, yeah. So you don't think that this particular cat team could win because of one injury? Well.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I shouldn't let my understanding and analysis. get in the way of your vision. But your understanding and analysis is also what has led to the win. So what about in college? So what cat, like Memphis? They're playing rice, rice owls. Oh!
Starting point is 00:44:32 That's got to be it. Because Memphis, they're tigers. Yeah. And the owls, that's a bird. That likes to eat animals on the ground. Get them. Hey. I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:44:45 almost it wins that game Saturday Dang, I would have never thought about that game in a million years Nope That might be the game Let me look to a couple more here Bird teams Virginia Houston
Starting point is 00:45:02 Rutgers Illinois I mean an owl is a bird of prey But it's not a Lulcher But we don't know that your cat was a tiger Oh true you're right It's just a bird's a bird and a cat A feline is a feline
Starting point is 00:45:14 Or something like that Virginia Tech What are the other Bulldogs, Gators? Other cats? Yeah. Kansas State. They're playing the Red Raiders.
Starting point is 00:45:31 That's not a bird. Let me guess. Red Raiders from the cheesepacking company. God, I'm thinking of those cheese packers my whole life. I don't think that's an odd. Well, no, no. Probably packed cheese somewhere in there. Possibly they had a room for cheesepacking.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Okay, I think that's what we got to do. And that's a game that I definitely don't really want to bet. Well. No, no. But it's your vision. And I followed it three times in a row. So I'm in. So like, what's the bet?
Starting point is 00:46:02 It's whatever you want. So it's rice plus 14. Wow. But who won in the vision? The bird. The bird won the vision. The bird scooped in and picked up the cat. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Is you going to have bet on rice? I got it. Plus 14? This might not be right. No, no, no, Amy. Is there like a player in the NFL that is like a cat? Larry Bird. Or bird?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that. What's West Virginia? Mountaineers. Okay, no. No, no bird there. Is it? I got to go with the division. So I'm going to put $250.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Oh my gosh. Rice plus 14. Oh, my gosh. I think that's solid. What is this? Who are they playing again? Memphis. Memphis is good.
Starting point is 00:46:55 But we're going on on the rice boys, the rice owls. Do you know why they're called rice? Because they used to pack a lot of rice. Don't know about that one. Okay. I don't think that this is the caller was looking for. No, the caller I think was actually looking for ravens and dolphins tonight. But ravens, birds.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Which is a bird, but the dolphins. And it could have been the bird just winning. What's that? Let me look at that line. The weird thing is the dolphin is a mammal, right? Cats a mammal. We're really stretching. But it's all the stretch for being honest. Oh, it's cats, right?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. Buffalo's not a cat, is it? No, no, man. No, but that's a human. No, no, no, no. No, I'm looking at college because Buffalo's playing the bull and green falcons. So I was trying to think if Buffalo... I mean, Eddie's on to something with cats being mammals.
Starting point is 00:47:48 No, you think... Well, dolphins are mammals, too. That's what he's saying. That's what I said. That's what he said. I may need to look that up, though. I was wrong about the Packers. Well, whales are mammals, but are dolphins?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Anyway, I'm going to draft kings and I'm betting rice plus 14. So that's what's up. Dolphins are mammals. I don't know what you guys are talking about because I'm over here on it. So that doesn't help. Amy, who's going to win Ravens and Dolphins tonight? Yeah, today. The thing is the Ravens, I mean, that's a bird.
Starting point is 00:48:16 The ravens are going to win. Okay. But it's not a... Ravens. So that's her pick, Cassie. The ravens are favored by over a touchdown. The ravens are going to win. She feels like the ravens are going to...
Starting point is 00:48:29 Because if it's birds versus mammals... She's going to mammals. No, I'm going the birds. No, I know, but the whole mammal connection with the dolphin. I feel stupider. I know. And stupider is not even a word, don't think. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:45 So Cassie, we didn't help you with. We actually confused ourselves. No, we didn't. It's very clear. It's not very clear, but the one bet we're going to make, I'm going to make is rice plus 14. I got three in a row on this, so I'm going four. And she's also just said that the Ravens will win,
Starting point is 00:48:58 but the Ravens do have Lamar Jackson playing tonight for the first time in a while. That's a big deal. Why is that a butt? Okay. I'm going to put in a bet for rice then. Okay. For college, even though I don't want it.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Just a little, just a teeny bet. Draft King is going to be like, there's a lot of pets coming for rice. It's going to be another scandal. They think the mafia is involved in this one too. We think the mob's in on rice. Nope, it's just us to envision. Tiny bet.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Okay. There you go, draft kings. And by the way, if you're new to draft kings, go and download the app, use the code Bobby Sports. Put that word in Bobby Sports for new customers. You can turn five bucks into $300 in bonus bets if your bet wins. In partnership with draft kings, the crown is yours. I want to know what you sent Amy.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Yeah, I'm very confused. So it's a new theory. It's not new. theory. It's just something that forever I thought... I'm kind of surprised he's... Me too. Which is why... I'm not in on it. Who's in on it? Bobby's in on it? Bobby's in on it? Not in on it. I have nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 He's buying into it. No, I'm not buying into it. I am starting... To devil. Because I don't believe anything. This is about Dustin Lynch. Wait a second. I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy. But I do think by the numbers, all the conspiracy theories, a couple of them have to be
Starting point is 00:50:14 true. If there's a thousand conspiracy theories, three of them are probably true. And not any three specific. And sometimes I think they create, oh, I've talked about that, how you create a bunch of craziness to hide the fact that things are real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, got to go. Thank you everybody for being here today. I hope you have a wonderful rest of the day and we will see you tomorrow. Goodbye, everybody. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
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Starting point is 00:51:45 My dad gave me the best. advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to thanks dad on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest.
Starting point is 00:52:26 The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the iHeartRadial. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life
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