The Bobby Bones Show - Thursday Post Show, But Really It's The Show... (12-5-24)

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

Our St. Jude Radiothon is live today and tomorrow with a series of exclusive performances we can’t share here (Dec 5th & 6th - more info at BobbyBones.com). Instead of replaying past shows ("bes...t ofs"), we’re bringing you an extended post-show...Please enjoy... Bobby talks about the UnitedHealthcare CEO who was fatally shot yesterday. Amy shares a story of a shooting that she can’t stop thinking about. We also draw Macy’s gift cards for our Christmas gift exchange. Bobby reveals why he hasn’t had a meal in 3 days. We talk to James in Virginia who is a dedicated listener of the show who tells us a crazy story of how a guardian angel saved his life. Bobby addresses some theft issues after things from his office that went missing. We also get an update on a listener who told us they went to rehab. Bobby also addresses a DM he got where a listener claims he cursed on the podcast.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:12 We appreciate you guys that listen to the podcast. And we hope you became a partner in hope. And if you did awesome. And if you're here just for the giggles, great. Or not always just giggles, just for the compelling content. I know everybody's got a little something here. I'll go first. That CEO that was shot in New York.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Oh, crazy. Dude. And I've watched so many videos. First, let me just explain what happened. 6.45 a.m. yesterday morning, the United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, was headed to an investor conference in New York City. He was one of the big speakers. Gunman approached him from behind, fired several shots.
Starting point is 00:03:44 He was pronounced dead at a local hospital. Police say the gunman arrived at the location about five minutes before. However, that's been since. There have been multiple witnesses say this guy was waiting there for hours and hours. But I'm just going to read from the story from NBC News. Talking to NBC News, his wife, Paulette Thompson, said there have been some threats. They were tracking down what they called several good leads. That is from NBC News.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Now this is just going to be me talking about it because I got on the algorithm of it last night on TikTok. And first of all, the guys is in a full head and mask. And nobody thinks anything of it because people must be wore masks now because of COVID. Yeah. And it was that kind of mask? No, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't. And it's cold at the same time in New York.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it's a combination of people already wear masks and it's cold. So you're just covering your face anyway. So you don't think anything of it. He's dressed in dark. He has a great backpack on. And initially it was he arrived right when the guy arrived.
Starting point is 00:04:42 So it was like he must have known exactly when he was there. But then again, watching the eyewitness, some of the people were like, no, he was there. He was at a Starbucks. They had footage of him at a Starbucks. Called a bad guy. It was at the Starbucks. And they waited for hours, apparently. Walks up, I believe it was a 22 pistol.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And what they call a suppressor is what we would call a silencer. So when you hear them talk about a suppressor, that's like a. the movies when it's a silencer. So it did have that on it. The gun jammed while he was shooting and you can see him unjam it. And shoot because he shot him in the calf at first.
Starting point is 00:05:20 This is why I don't think and it was purpose is just me giving an opinion. This is why I don't think it was like a hired super skilled hitman is because of all the things that went wrong. What's up?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Your phone ringing? No. Okay. Just me chilling. Was that just me? Isn't anyone his phone ringing? I think you're just hearing your interrupted Bobby's story. Yeah, it was just a story interruption.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Hey, no problem. No, I thought, I wanted you to check because in case it's an emergency. I know, it's all good here. No miss calls anything. Okay. Yeah, anyway. Carry on. So the reason that I don't feel that it was a hired hitman,
Starting point is 00:05:56 especially one of high skill, because it could have been a hired person to kill, but he shot him in the calf at first. And if you're using a handgun and, And you shoot in very rudimentary version of this is if you shoot in your hands or below your shoulders, it's going to shoot low. The guy didn't know what he was. He did hit him. He didn't know what he was doing. So he shot him in the calf, unjammed the gun, shot him in the bag.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Took off, got on the e-bike, got out of there. As of right now, they still don't know who he is. So I think there was some history of using that weapon because you don't unjam a gun like that without knowing how to use it. but I don't think it was someone who was like a million dollar hire to hire a hitman to kill a CEO because of how because if that were the case he'd have walked up and put her upside his head and killed him and walked off same thing because he was five feet away from him like that's probably how that would have gone down also he probably wouldn't have to
Starting point is 00:06:46 Starbucks beforehand like that seems so weird that sometimes you got to stay awake you've been out there all night like you're just saying it like you're going to go to Starbucks when like you know there's going to be video of you in the Starbucks and they did have his mask on though and how what I would counter on that is he knew he's going to be on video anyway everywhere because he was he's on video at the mask on and the gun. They got him at like four or five different places, including Starbucks. And it looks like the same picture. He didn't take his mask down
Starting point is 00:07:08 in Starbucks. Do we know what he used to pay with at Starbucks yet? They haven't said that. That's why I wonder. Did he buy a drink? And it's like if he had his phone with him, he's cooked. Well, they found a phone. They found a phone in the alleyway where he fled and they do believe the phone belongs to the person and they are trying to get a search warrant to go through the phone. Which if it wasn't a burner phone, again, not somebody who is hired to do this at a high level. Now, there are 100 theories.
Starting point is 00:07:32 to what it could have been, and those are just people making up stuff. But a person that would have been hired to do this on a high level would have probably, one, had no electronic device on them at all. Because there's no tracking. Two would have walked up and just put it at his head and boom,
Starting point is 00:07:50 and walked away, because he basically did the same thing, just two shots, but seven to ten to twelve feet away. When it shot him in the calf. So all that is the non-emotional part. of it. Right? That is the, I cannot believe we just saw that happen. Broad Daylight, got away on an e-bike, e-biked there, walked, walked, got back on an e-bike, had clothes you could change
Starting point is 00:08:10 in and out of, had a gray backpack, nondescript clothing, all of that. Also, fled into Central Park where they said there's not very much, very many cameras, so that's probably why he went into Central Park. Probably changes clothes. Like, rode the bike in Central Park. Right, changed his clothes. Yeah. And got out of there. Is this updated, Mike? Yeah, this is. The mass gunman who stalked and killed, used ammunition with the words deny, defendant to pose. So on the bullets, I had not read that until right now. Which is, yeah, which is the title of a book written a few years ago talking about how health care uses these words to delay your, to avoid paying you out insurance things. What are the words?
Starting point is 00:08:49 Deny, delay. No, deny, defend, and depose. There you go. So also, this could also be what they call like a false flag. Somebody could be doing this to throw the scent off where if they're doing this, someone goes, well, it must be because they're upset about insurance when it's somebody going, well, if we do this, there's just so much right now that that doesn't make me feel like that is real. That could be a red herring. You did say that the wife said that they had threats?
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yes. Yeah, but I would think that CEOs, yeah, I feel like that's a, I think that's a common thing. Also, people are so mean to. I was looking at comments and every one of them was like, I would give condolences, but my insurance wouldn't come from like in the comments section of these. But also people are also, I was also irritated because they're, like stealing the joke too from other people so the first thing i was like you're sad human why would you do this somebody just died and secondly i'm like you just stole that joke from another person's
Starting point is 00:09:39 instagram comment and used it now you're getting all the likes loser um he was a guy who moved up through the company too he wasn't one of these CEOs that was like hired headhunted from another company he's like somebody who started low level and rose up um i understand the uh that the trouble that and there was some insider trading stuff that that had started to circulate. And there was some AI stuff where it was like they were using a company. This is just going to be my memory
Starting point is 00:10:10 and I could be wrong about the numbers here. But they were using an AI company to say yes or no to things and it was proven the AI company was like 90% wrong. And they were still using it anyway even while knowing that. Like that's something that I read.
Starting point is 00:10:22 But there's going to be so much misinformation out there now because people just want to get clicks that now it's like, we'll just wait and see. But the problem is, what the wait and see is, okay, we're still waiting to see what happened with Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:10:32 know what? He died. That was from the inside. Or he was murdered. That was for sure from the inside. The cops took a break. Allegedly murdered. The cops take a break.
Starting point is 00:10:39 They turned the cameras off. So, who knows what we know, except this guy. Also, you don't really know what your CEO is doing. Like, let's say you work at the company. And he was speaking at this conference, and it was known, but he was there way early. Like, you don't know. It wasn't like it was said, this guy's going to be here on this day because it wasn't the day he was talking. There's just a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah. don't allow you to have the full scope of what's happening because we only are we only know what we're being told because it's sort of like okay was this guy professional or not because it seems like some of this stuff he would have to know or how he would have to know what he knew would be really a little more a professionalish i would say that you can be in the know without being professional okay and also have some skills okay so it's like not or just be in the know and hire somebody who it's like a drug addict that will do anything for drugs or money because they're in a bad place And you know what they do?
Starting point is 00:11:34 This is what happens with a lot of these is that they will hire somebody I say they, I'll just use that generically, they'll hire somebody with this situation like this and they'll pay them and they'll give them and then they'll make sure they OD on the drugs afterwards so there's no trail back to the... I'm not saying that's this one,
Starting point is 00:11:47 but that does happen as well. Then you never know because it's... I feel like that really happens in real life or just on TV. Oh, I don't know on TV that happens. Oh. In real life, that happens. It's a sucky story.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And I couldn't believe it happened right there. And then I was thinking, what about the people that saw it happen? And I was like, what if I saw it happen? What would I do? Run. Yeah. Shots fire, you run.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It's like, I guess people were like, why didn't someone just jump and take him down? And then I think, well, let me think about what I would do. I'd run. You don't know who those people are. Or where it was, like, and exactly where it was coming from. Maybe you hear it. And then you're like, oh, is that, oh, it's a silencer too. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:12:22 They were right there. Like, they saw it. Because, again, it's 10 feet. See, people that saw him. Silence doesn't mean that makes no noise. Right. Because a bullet goes faster to speed of sound. Suppresser.
Starting point is 00:12:31 That's a better. way to put it. It's a oppressor. TV gives you a wrong impression of silencers for the most part. So anyway, that story sucks. I feel terrible for the family. Because he's in such a high position, there are a thousand different theories as to why or what or how. Yeah. Could
Starting point is 00:12:48 it, do you think there's any, I mean, I was reading about him being investigated for the insider trading and whatever. Could it have been an inside job of they're worried he was going to squeal. Like he was going to say, hey, this is what's happening? How does this guy know that he's coming out that door that early in the morning.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Well, if you waited for hours and hours and the conference was in that hotel, right? There is bits of intel that would lead you to think that. But you're right. Yes, that could be one. I mean, yeah, I was just. I'm not attaching myself to a theory because I know nothing except what's being told here. And then I know what I don't know. And that's most of it.
Starting point is 00:13:24 But that if I were an, like a CEO of a different insurance company today, I would have full security around me. Big time. And they said he bought a bottle of one. water into bars from the Starbucks and they did find a bottle of water in the alleyway where the gun was or the phone so they think that that that bottle of water is his so they're going to test it for DNA. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And if they find DNA on it, this guy was not a professional. Right. And also, did he use Apple Pay or cash? Probably cash. Unless he's just really safe. That's what I want to now link out. Yeah, yeah. And firearm experts thinks it is someone that has military or a lot of gun training because
Starting point is 00:14:01 the way it jams and the way they are able to unjam it so quick. Him doing that was him having weapons training or a lot of... Do you think the calf part, he just got nervous? Or the gun malfunction, you know. He was definitely shooting a little low. And the first one didn't jam. The first one shot. Maybe he was trying to really not.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Well, my friends that live in cities think I'm like, they think I'm like the biggest hillbilly and I'm medium hillbilly and have decent gun experience, but never with handguns. And it's like I had a 410 and 12 gauge and 30. got six when I had a rifle. And so I know like general basic Arkansas gun, right, hunting. Hunting gun, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I can tell you the difference in all the gauges of shotguns. I can tell you different kinds of birdshot, buckshot, slug. I can do all that. But they're hitting me up like I'm some gun expert to give analysis. I'm like, guys, I'm a hillbilly with guns. I don't know about the only thing that I could tell you was he knew and he has used a weapon at how calm he unjammed the thing because it did jam. And a lot of times they did.
Starting point is 00:15:01 jam with the suppressor because that's not common. So anyway, we'll move off because I'm wildly uneducated on it. I just want to talk about the story and that sucks. And I hope they figure it out. That's it for me. You'll take a middle roll real quick? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, let's do the middle here.
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Starting point is 00:20:32 And it's about this guy that shot two teenagers that broke into his home. Okay, what's the problem? And the problem is why I can't stop thinking about it is he's in jail for the rest of his life for murder. So a couple questions. He didn't know them. They broke into his home. Right. So I'm not confused on that.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Were they running away from his home, like in his yard? No, he's waiting for them in the basement because I guess his home had been broken into leading up to that. And he had guns himself and two guns were stolen. So he was an older man who was obviously scared for his life. And he set sort of like the way they presented it in court were like he set this up as a trap. Like he made it seem like his home was empty. He wasn't there. He parked his truck down the road.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And then he was waiting in the basement for whoever was breaking in. He didn't know who it was going to be. And when they came down, he didn't even wait to see their face. He just shot the first kid. And then his cousin, a girl, like, was looking for him. And she was like waiting for him to come out. she starts to go down the stairs. He shoots her.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Well, the problem is, I think maybe he had started to go a little bit, you know, something was not right because he was like recording this. People broke into his house before, though, and these people had broken into his house right? Correct. And so he was, they pitched it as sort of, don't quote me on the exact words, but premeditated in a sense because he was sitting and waiting and he set a trap. But again, what's the trap?
Starting point is 00:22:00 But they broke in. Yes, like they broke in. And these are, I think, good kids making a bad choice. I felt bad for the family talking in the podcast and whatnot, but I just thought, man, what would, how? I just keep thinking about if I was on the jury, what would I do? Not be guilty. If it's what you said.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah, but he's in jail for the rest of his life. And I wonder why. There had to be some in the case. I wonder what they got him for and why they got him. That audio got him. The fact that he had the recording. It wasn't a video. It was just an audio recording.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And you hear him talking to himself beforehand, like, you know, kind of going over like, I'm going to get him or, you know, talking about that. But I'm like he's scared. And maybe he was going a little crazy because of it. I would maybe too. I did. Another part is he waited because he was scared. Apparently his lawyer said after he did it and you have it on clip,
Starting point is 00:22:52 he went and hid in the closet because he didn't know are more people coming, whatnot. He didn't report it until the next day. And that's always trouble if somebody's been killed and you don't report it immediately. Yeah. So anyway, I can't stop talking about it. And if not, it's crazy, but there must be something we're missing. Because if someone breaks into your house and I feel all threatened, I'm shooting them, right? I mean, that's it.
Starting point is 00:23:15 If I feel threatened, I'm going to eliminate the right. So it's the castle doctrine. You have the right to protect your castle. And the only time I've seen people get in trouble, because I didn't know this story, is if people are still on your property and they're like running away and you still shoot them. Right. Even if they're on your property, like you can go to jail for that because they are now not a threat and they are, eliminating themselves from being a threat.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Okay, so to that point, the second person, the second teen he ended up shooting, he did not need to shoot her multiple times, but he did. And then like specifically like in the, but I mean, I think he was, I don't know, if you're in that state of mind,
Starting point is 00:23:51 I don't know how crazy you are. I just don't know that it's like murder and jail for the rest of your life. Like maybe you need some mental help. I think he was scared. And when you're in fear, and then people are breaking, like they literally broke into the home.
Starting point is 00:24:03 So, I don't know. That's the part two where I'm like, I would have been shooting. And you say, do you feel, after my house got broken into two, and I had been pistol whipped and had a couple of, I was crazy at my house. Any noise. I had a gun right beside me. So it's like he's crazy. You know what makes you crazy? Whenever you feel like you could die at any minute because you've had experiences that have led you to think that you could die at any minute because people have broken in or people have attacked you.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah. I just wonder what the jury, like why the jury. I'd need to see why. Like you could. listen to it. I don't know. I mean, it's... The court heard Smith's whispers at the time of the shootings. I don't see them as human. I see them as vermin.
Starting point is 00:24:41 What does that mean? I think you probably... In my mind, I was thinking, like, you probably have to convince yourself. Like, I've got to protect myself. And right now, if I see them as human, like, I'm not going to be able to protect my home. And I'm scared and I'm tired of living scared. So I'm going to take care of business. Smith's decision earlier on Thanksgiving Day, moved his vehicle from the driveway, allowed prosecutors to present the idea that he wished to bait the intruders.
Starting point is 00:25:03 the act of premeditation, if you're just moving your car, you're not baiting. It's not like you, it's not like you're piling up presents inside the window going, anybody that can get to these, you can have them. And leave the door open. Good luck. Yeah, no, they had to break a window to get in. But he, I guess what they're saying baiting is by presenting the fact that you're not home, knowing, like, that's still not baiting. That's not baiting. I mean, yes, he said it. Yes. Because you present that you're not home does not mean you have the right to break into somebody's house and not get shot. But he had the right, but he had the motive that he was going to kill these people premeditated because he
Starting point is 00:25:35 he set a trap and said I'm going to move my truck down the road That's not a trap. That's not a trap. Like if you put your car in the garage, that's a trap. Yeah, that's not a trap. And your garage is different. Okay, parking down the street. There's no different. To make the appearance you're not home. That's saying I'm going to put Christmas presents in my car with the windows down and then wait for someone and shoot them.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It doesn't make it okay for somebody to break in even if you're not home. I didn't say it was okay for them to break in, but to try to lead them to break in for to give them reason to break in. Yeah, because he's tired of living scared. Like, yes. Like, however you want to put it. But that's not begging someone to break in by saying, I'm not home. No.
Starting point is 00:26:09 That is extremely irrational. It is setting the stage for life. That's why the jury found him guilty because he baited them. He came up with a plan to get them in his house so he can murder them. But he can't plan for them to break into his house. If no one had broken into his house multiple times, it was multiple times. If no one had done it ever before, then he wouldn't have been in fear. And when you're in survival mode, you fight.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Flight freeze. He was fighting for his own safety, in my opinion. Bating would be, again, big flashing arrow. Door wide open. Like, baiting is not something that would happen anyway. Because he could be gone. I just wish he would have been driven. I mean, because these kids, these kids, their poor decision to break in when they think it's an innocent thing.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I mean, breaking in is not innocent. But right, if they think he's not home, they're going to go in, steal some money, steal some whatever, and probably run out. But maybe kill him if they run into him, right? Yeah, but that's, okay, see, I don't think these teens would have, but he didn't know that. Right, but it doesn't matter of that. Two of his guns were previously stolen, so in his mind, he's like, they could come back and use my own weapons against me. And when someone is in a situation of their life is threatened, they may actually do something that is threatening to yours, even if they did not plan to do that.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Right, which is where I'm just like, God, like, yeah. Yeah, that would, that sucks. Like, I have these, like, I'd say every two months, like these, like, I'd say every two months, like these, kids come through my neighborhood and they just go through car doors and if they're unlocked they steal stuff yeah yeah and i have thought myself i'm like i would love to see them doing that so i can call the cops and like tell them exactly where they are and they get busted but like i've even thought maybe i get some nails pop their tires when they go that way i throw it all on the road so when they have to come back down the road their tires are popped then the cops can get them given a kidney though
Starting point is 00:27:56 where you really not going to ever do it no i've literally thought this but i never know when they're going to do it he's thought it bobby i know but him saying it Nobody's literally thought about donating a kidney, too. I know, I know. You can think all kinds of things. Yeah, that sucks, Amy. Well, no, I don't, I mean, it's the whole story just was, it happened back in 2012, but for whatever reason, Dayline, I don't know, the podcast,
Starting point is 00:28:14 and my heart breaks for the family of the teenagers, and it's just a, it. Is there a chance this guy gets released? I'm no idea. Because, again, depending on how small the town is, and, you know, there's people sometimes running for office make things happen certain ways, they win and lose case. You know, there's just a lot happening. And if there's a light shined on it now, from back in 2012.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Obviously, I did not know all the facts other than what I'm reading. I'm reading it as we're doing the bit here, but I think not having your car on your house is not bait for someone to break in. No chance. But the audio was not in his favor. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And him shooting her multiple times not good. But again, he wasn't in his right mind because he doesn't. If somebody's threatening you, you're never in your right mind. Correct. And that's crazy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Let's do a couple other things. So there's that. We have our St. Jude Radioathon that we have been doing all morning. I do want to bring Jessica on. Is she on the phone? Or no? I thought that was going to be for something else.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Oh, got it. Oh, got it. We'll do it. We'll do it off the show. Yeah, no problem. So if you are listening to the show and you want to be a partner and hope, we have one of the families we're going to talk to you coming up in just a little bit. We want to the Christmas gift drawing?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yes. Because we need to do this now so we know whose is who. So, yeah, Kevin can bring all the stuff in. This is where we draw our gift cards? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. We're going to. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:31 but we're going to bring him in and actually talk it out for a second because we only have like seven or eight minutes to do this I'm thinking so Macy's gave us all these gift cards the good thing is we have to spend
Starting point is 00:29:47 another on money which we never spent a whole lot anyway because it was always like a $40 limit or something but Macy's gave us these gift cards and there's one from 10 and I have the key coming in I will not draw
Starting point is 00:29:58 I will take whichever one is last that way I have no influence on what bag is what bag but I will have the key to know what's what So can I have the key? You can sit the bags right there. Thanks, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:30:09 What sucks for Kevin is. He was in it until we only had eight. Now he's eliminated because there's only eight. He was nine. What's the key? The key. All one fell. The key.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Like all the answers. Okay. So there's one $10 gift card. Oh my gosh. Put him in the middle. Yeah, one fell into the... There's $125 gift card. There's $150.
Starting point is 00:30:29 No, there's $2.50 gift cards. There's $2.75 gift cards. There's $100, a $500, and a $1,000. Oh, my goodness. I mean, 500 sounds awesome, but then you go, there's a thousand, and I'm just like, 500 doesn't count. Playing the odds here. Hey, did you get the one that fell? There's a 1,000 one and a $500 one.
Starting point is 00:30:45 That's two. Not bad. Versus one, two, three, four, five, six versus seven. So you're looking at a two and seven. $500. That odds to get that one is awesome. You want to get them? So first I'll say this about Macy's.
Starting point is 00:31:01 It's the best offer of the season, taking an extra 30% off top gifts, plus 15% off their best beauty brands. They have the perfect gifts this holiday season. Ugs, Kroc. a wall of water bottle, lots of great stocking stuffers, let Macy's be your guide to gifting. Shop at Macy's.com. They do have everything. So, and maybe we don't even draw until tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:31:17 We can just draw names now. But here's the thing. I'm not totally set on the most interesting way to do this. I've walked through every scenario in my head. I've walked through, we draw a name. Let's say I draw Amy's name. And then I pull a bag. And do I pull it immediately and go,
Starting point is 00:31:34 I only got $10. I've done the thing where it's like we don't say who we have and we draw the bag, but we know how much money there is on the card. There we go. Because then the person does, that's an interesting wrinkle. I've done the thing where we have the bag and nobody knows who has. I don't know. Amy, I'm going to go to you.
Starting point is 00:31:59 What do you think the best idea for the most drama? This is a bit. This is not real. You want me to pay me? which one's going to be the most drama? Ask lunchbox. No, no, I'm not asking him because he's rageful and irrational. I'm asking you because... I don't think I'm irrational.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It's for the most compelling part of the bit. Like, what's the best way to do this as a fun? Fun doesn't mean everybody has a good time, but for the listeners to go like, oh my God, I can't believe that. What's the most suspenseful way to do this? I think that you
Starting point is 00:32:30 capitalize on two moments of suspense, the first moment being you find out right away what the dollar amount is for whatever person. And then it'll be funny to see what they end up getting. Like with that. But what about knowing who the person is? Like what in your version of this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Like if it's, okay, so I guess how. Because I have in my head, I haven't drawn exactly how I do it, but I want to hear your way before you say that. Well, here's what I'm thinking. Like you, like I say, I draw a lunchbox. So you draw a name first. I draw the name first. It's like, oh, I got lunchbox.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And then I draw my gift card. And I'm like, it's $10. So you want to know that immediately. Yes. And then it'll be fun to find out later what I got for $10 for him. Because it's like a double. Because otherwise we're waiting. And then I'm going to give him the thing I got for $10.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And it's going to be like, oh, you find both of those things out at the same time. So I'm 50% with you on that. I think we draw the name. And I think we draw the, if you say, because it's just not interesting if I draw you and then I say I have $10 for you. I don't even care to hear what you get it for $10. Right. I do. It already lost the lust for.
Starting point is 00:33:34 The luster of that is gone. Okay. As the guy that's full of rage and irrational, if you told me right away, I'd lose interest if you told me $10 right away. Where it's like I draw somebody and it's you and we don't say what the gift card amount is. Okay. And then you're waiting until we do the day and you're sitting there the day.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And you don't even know what, even when they open the present. What if the person doesn't know, but the listeners do? Maybe. What if it's like? Hold on. Let me finish the explanation here. Okay, sorry. I got excited.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I think what it is is, is, draw the name get the gift you draw the gift card but you don't say how much it is they open the gift without knowing how much the gift card was until after they opened the gift and then it's like I had
Starting point is 00:34:19 X amount of dollars Morgan you're saying something or the reverse could also be that we don't say who we get we say what our gift card is so nobody knows that that's that's basically the same but yes it's that we're leaving one of the elements unknown
Starting point is 00:34:31 but if we draw the name and we have the name we know like who's our friend or enemy already. Because what makes it interesting is if lunchbox gets you or you get lunchbox because he's going to be pissed. But the power is interesting. The power is interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But if you don't have who the power over who is, it doesn't matter. Yeah, but everyone's going to want to hope that that power is for a certain person. That's a good point too. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, here's what we're going to do because we have to go. We're going to draw names today only.
Starting point is 00:34:59 We're not going to draw bags. Wait, but I'll be here tomorrow. We'll draw names. It's a good point. So we have to do that? No. we don't you can just do yours okay today just morgan we'll do hers today oh so um do we have something for names we had a wheel great do we have time yeah i can put everybody's name on a
Starting point is 00:35:20 yeah bring it it's just we got to keep spinning it and pull names it's fine with me we have an interview in like five minutes yeah um let's do this i'm don't worry about that who are the names on the thing just just read the names other people participating please I don't know. Oh, yeah, you do. Amy. Just like read them so I can write. I don't know. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Bobby. Amy. Thank you, Morgan. All right, hold on. Bobby. Let's probably think we're bringing a new character for this. Well, you said there was someone was in. Lunchbox.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Tiffany. Lunchbox. Eddie. Eddie. Mike D. Mike D. Go ahead. Abby.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Abby. Ray Mundo. Rick Murray. Well, he said Kevin was in. Kevin's never been in. Scoob. Done. And Morgan.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Just spin. It's right there. Two, three, four. four, five, six. That's nine people. Should be nine, yeah. We have nine gift cards. Becky, nine.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Okay. Okay. So, Amy, you're going to go first pick a number one through nine. Nine. You have Scoobes Steve. Okay. Lunchbox pick a number? Four.
Starting point is 00:36:24 You have Amy. I'm going to take a picture on my sheet, though, by the way, so you guys don't think I'm changing anything. Lunchbox. Boom, got it. Okay. Okay. Morgan? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Pick a number. Two. You have Ray. Hey, Ray. Eddie, if you need to know the numbers that are left. I got it. Go ahead. Number three.
Starting point is 00:36:45 That's me. Mike D. That's left. One, five, six, seven, and eight. Okay, I'll take one. You have Abby. You've already picked Amy? Yep, I got scuba.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I got scuba. I got scuba. Pick you a number. I'll pick crazy eight. Eight. You have Eddie. Okay. Oh, crap.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Nice. Come on, Ray. Ray Mundo. Get me. Five. You have scuba. No. No, scuba's already on the list.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah, Amy has me. I have him. Yeah. yeah oh so there's only eight then wait that should be nine did you oh Morgan that's Morgan that's Morgan that's Morgan you have Morgan that's that's Morgan that's right that's Morgan and then there's two left um Ray have you have you picked a number there's two left there's six and seven and then Abby you'll pick I think Ray just pick oh you did pick you have Morgan wait I have Ray so Ray has
Starting point is 00:37:33 me also Ray do you have more okay so you guys have each other the odds of that what happening were 10% so I have a pick and I Mike you can look so you can see what the numbers are so I'm not a just cheating or anything. Abby, you can pick number six or number seven. Seven. You have Mike D? Bobby has me. And I have lunchbox. And he's the most honest person in the world. And when he gets that thousand, I'm getting all thousand dollars. You don't know that. You don't know that. Yeah, you're going to have to bring proof of receipt. Yeah. But here's another ring for we'll
Starting point is 00:38:02 talk about. Do you have to spend the whole card? You don't? I say no. I think the option is you don't have to. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. These are rules. We're inventing a new game. Because you know if lunchbox gets, I have him. If I get the thousand, so you're saying he could get me something for like 20 bucks and keep $980? I'm thinking that could be a wrinkle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Morgan, I need you to draw a bag. You know he will. And then just draw the bag and take it with you. Don't open it. Just tell me the number you're picking. Okay. And so I'm the only one that knows how much that is. I don't want you to look in it.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Just give it to Scuba Steve until you get back. Okay. From your trip. But we know which one is yours. Your number is nine. Nine. Nine. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Nine. All right. Let's do this. This is Fisher. I'm going to play this from the show this morning. Be a partner, Hope, if you can. Here's Fisher and his mom talking about Fisher went to St. Jude. I think he was awesome.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And we spent, you know, today's show and tomorrow's show raising money for the the hospital because that's what's up. And we'll just go to the interview now. Thanks. The Bobby Bone Show. And the B team giving St. Jude Kids the greatest gift. Hope. 1-800-795, 1800.
Starting point is 00:39:27 That's the number you can call to become a partner in Hope. We'll get back to that number in just a second. Heck, I'll say it again. 1-800-795-1800. Special guests in studio now. Fisher and his mom, Felena. And Fisher, how old do you, buddy? 11.
Starting point is 00:39:41 11 years old? Yeah, so how long you've been 11? Exactly, I know. A year. Are you about to have a birthday? Yeah. Oh. December 19th.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Let's go. Okay. That's coming up quick. Maybe I give you a present or something before you leave. You want a present? I don't know what I have, but I probably got something, huh? So Fisher has brain cancer, right? Had.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Had. Okay, good. Because this is why I want your mom. Will you tell me about the process, like how you learned, like the very early on how you learned Fisher had something like the cancer you later realized it was cancer but how that happened um it started off with just a few random headaches and it progressed really fast um it went from a few random the next week was every morning the following week was every morning and every afternoon um and then that following week on wednesday he got sick at school so they called me to go get him they thought
Starting point is 00:40:33 he had a stomach bug um but when i picked him up he was like mom this headache so we went to urgent who told us it was a sinus infection. And I was like, he's just not a complainer. So I scheduled him to see his regular pediatrician on the Friday. He was passing all of his neurological test. He showed no symptoms of like a balance inconsistency or anything. So she kind of felt the same that, you know, in baby it's sinuses, give it a couple more days. Did you feel they were wrong?
Starting point is 00:41:06 Like as a mom, did you feel that they? Probably didn't have a total grasp of it. In my gut, I don't know. There was just a part of me that was like something's just not right. But I don't know. We're just a pretty laid-back family, so I didn't throw up any immediate red flags. Were the headaches different than like a normal headache? Not really.
Starting point is 00:41:29 So there was no reason for you to think other than it could have been sinuses or something, right? The only thing that I thought is why am I getting them every day consistently? Because you'd never had that happen. Never. So then what do you do after they say sinus infection? We were just going to take the antibiotics and give it a couple more days. But on the Saturday, we couldn't get the headache to go away. He was miserable.
Starting point is 00:41:54 We tried to make a trip to the camp thinking, you know, if it is migraines that are starting from him kind of getting older, maybe if we distract him. What's the camp? Our deer camp. Got him. So we, you know, thought, let's get a distraction for the week. in and on the way there he was in so much pain that I was like this is clearly not a sinus headache we made it there for an hour or two loaded back up and had my husband just drop us off at the door at the ER okay so they want to know okay you've had headaches and you tell them you went to
Starting point is 00:42:28 the urgent care you went to the doctor this is what they've said so what did they do that's different in the lobby he kind of stumbled and I got a little So I went and tell the nurse like, that's unusual. Something's not right. I guess we were just blessed by that nurse. She kind of pushed the issue quick. And within about 10 minutes, we were in the back. He had already had his CT and they were starting an IV.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And they had already given him like pain medicine. And within 45 minutes of being there, the doctor came in and told us that he had a mass on his brain and that that was an ambulance waiting for us to be transported. What do you remember about that fisher of that day? Like the hospital and all that. What do you remember? All I really remember is getting out of the camper, walking in, going to sleep, and waking up in a room. Really?
Starting point is 00:43:21 And it's going to be hard to describe the emotion, but when they say there's something on his brain, like, what do you think as a mom? It was, like I think I was just stunned. There was a part of me, like I said, that had that kind of gut feeling that, like something wasn't wrong. right but I never thought that and it was just so much to take in and it went so fast where did they take him from there um they took him to the saint jude affiliate in baton rouge um it was about midnight when they got us there and what happens when you arrived there do they go to work immediately trying to figure out what they had doctors waiting already um that were there to talk to us multiple doctors. They already had a game plan, already had him on the schedule for in the morning what
Starting point is 00:44:10 was going to happen. Their goal for that night was just to make sure he stayed comfortable and to get a team together for the morning. I imagine you didn't sleep much. Yeah. It was an unusual feeling like yesterday I was looking back because yesterday was one year that we walked into the ER. So, like, to walk in and read the oncology floor. Like, you never think, wow, this is going to be me and, you know, my child walking through an oncology floor. So I remember, like, that night when he was sleeping, it just kept, like, I just kept replaying when you walk through, you know, it's that St. Jude affiliate, but it's the oncology floor. And it had to be like, is this even real? I think it took a couple days.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah, like, like, like, what? Because you're right. You never actually picture it being you, or even worse, your kid. Like, I remember my grandmother, my entire life with the St. Jude kids on her refrigerator because, you know, she would donate. And never in a million years do you think, wow, that might be my kid's picture, you know. When do they and what do they tell you like the next day or the next couple of days when they can give you more information about it? They told us the mass was stable, that he wasn't bleeding or anything. His situation was rather critical because there was so much. The pressure that he was holding in his head could have started causing life-threatening things like on the spot.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And that's the headache. The pressure of the 10 masses, that's the headache. And that's why it hurt so bad. Wow. So, and I have a lot more I want to get to, but officially wearing a cowboy hat there. I saw some signatures. Who is that? What's happening at the?
Starting point is 00:45:58 Sam Hunt. You met Lainty Wilson at Sam Hunt? Where'd you meet them? Lainey was the exact day on my last chemo. Sam was... They were both at St. Jude. That's pretty cool. That's awesome. Do you like Lany? You big Lany fan? Yeah, she's pretty awesome. So, okay, here's what we're going to do here. And by the way, if you're listening, and we're going to talk more about specifically St. Jude in just a second, you can become a partner in hope and help people like Fisher. You can text 1-800-795-1800. I guess you call that number now. 1-800-7-9-8-800.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Call the number. We have a phone bank here. People are ready to answer. $19 a month to help the kids at St. Jude fight cancer because no family receives a bill. Because of people like you that are listening. 1-800-795-1800. Do you have a favorite Lanny Wilson song?
Starting point is 00:46:45 One of my really good friends that I met there, it was wild horses and wildflowers. That's a good one. She was there in music therapy. they let her make her own song. She called it a wild ride through radiation. The Bobby Bones Show. And St. Jude.
Starting point is 00:47:02 You guys can become a partner in Hope, so I'll give you the number to call, and then I'll give you the number to text later. But the number to call, we have people standing by right now. 1-800-795-1800, become a partner in Hope $19 a month, and you will help kids at St. Jude fight cancer.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And I don't just say those words. Like we have Fisher here who is 11. He's about to be 12, though, like almost immediately. Hey, life changes when you're 12. Do you know that? You can't even stop your armpit hair from growing. It grows so much.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You can have down to your knees in like a day. Don't scare them, man. You don't scare them. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I'm just saying, 12, the whole different ball game. Fisher had brain cancer. And we were talking with Falana, his mom, a few minutes ago. And we got to the point where you were at, like,
Starting point is 00:47:45 the St. Jude affiliate in Baton Rouge. At what point did the doctor say, hey, we want to send you to St. Jude in Memphis? Like, how does that conversation happen? When they made a game plan that they were going to go ahead and do his first brain surgery to remove the tumor on the front of his brain, they said we're going to do this. He'll be stable. And then we're going to send everything to St. Jude and have their team look at it. And then you'll get a better game plan. So we did the surgery the following day. And then they told us, oh, you'll have about two weeks before it was holidays. It was Thanksgiving break. We were about 10 minutes from home. And one of their doctors called and said, we need you to turn around. Man. He's, you know, he's got one of tumors that's going to cause an issue.
Starting point is 00:48:32 He gave us to, he said, I need you, you know, on the road by like 2 a.m. So. Where do you live? Do you live in Louisiana? So do you start, because I think what I would start doing is Googling everything about the brain. I mean, I'd be an expert, the cerebellum, the cerebellum. Yes. And probably getting myself in trouble, like learning.
Starting point is 00:48:50 You do. Yeah. Before we had our team conference with the doctors, everybody's like, don't go down that rabbit hole. But as a parent, you can't not because you want to know, how do you fix it? And you do. You read all the things that you probably shouldn't read. For his case, his cancer type is, like it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:14 It can go many different ways. There's all subgroups and subtypes and markers. And you kind of, you know, have a lot. no medical background at all. And it's the brain, right? It's the brain which we know nothing. I mean, I know nothing about the brain. We know very little about the brain.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And so I can understand where a lot of anxiety would set in because of, just in general, cancer with your kid. Yep. But then brain. And then they tell you like any of the surgeries, we don't know what's going to come out of it. Not just the cancer, but what side effects is he going to have? Will he be able to walk again? When you get to St. Jude Fisher in Memphis.
Starting point is 00:49:51 What's that like? Giant, very big. Most of the people, all of the people there, they don't look like they're not happy. Not a day that I was there. No one's not happy to be there. Even if they are inside, they don't show in it at all. Such a positive vibe? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And like the doctors, like how do they talk to you? Pretty calm, collected? Yeah. The fact that you're called word collected at 11. Amazing. I had to learn that like last year to say collected. Look at you. So tell me about the process, like, what starts to happen?
Starting point is 00:50:25 How long were you there total? Two months in 23, and then we had the break for Christmas that we went back for my birthday and Christmas, and then we were there for 10 months. Did you? Right about. About a year all in? Yeah. Do you make a lot of friends there?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Oh, yeah. Really? Yes. A lot of kids that are going through similar things. What do you guys do there for fun? I mean, around there, sometimes you can get free and go places. But most of it, they have their second floor. It is been too long since it's been there.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Can't remember? What? MakerSpace. MakerSpace, there's music lounge. They have 3D printers. They always have, like, different crafts out every day. They have a wood engraver. vinyl stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:21 So a lot of stuff for you to do. When you say go free, they don't let you go to like Bill Street, like hang out. No, you're all going to because you're only like 10 or 11. Got it. Like the put put places. We talk a lot about how when people become a partner in hope, which is why we do these shows,
Starting point is 00:51:38 which is why I've done it for years, that the $19 a month goes to help the kids at St. Jude fight cancer and the families never receive a bill. Can you speak on that never receiving a bill part of it? I can't imagine going through the day to days of keeping track of the medicines or the appointments or what's working or what's not working. And then on the back end worrying, how are we going to pay? You know, it's a lot there, but there's no stress.
Starting point is 00:52:09 You're not worried about, you know, simple things of like, can we go eat out tonight? because that's what he's hungry for, because they allow you to have your entire focus on your child. I was never worried about, you know, what Bill is my husband getting at home. You know, how is this going to affect our family long term? Will we ever come out of it? Because we knew that him being here, not only was he getting taken care of, you know, but that our family was going to be able to keep it together. And that's why we encourage you guys that are listening.
Starting point is 00:52:44 that if you can become a partner in hope, the $19 makes such a difference. So you can call 800-795-1800. We've got people here waiting. You get the black crew neck sweatshirt. It says Pimp and Joy. It's the Bobby Bone Show. So what about whenever you guys did chemo, radiation, how long was that? And just from knowing other people that have gone through it,
Starting point is 00:53:08 and it's terrible for everybody involved. How long did you have to do it? How intense was it? For him, they chose six weeks of radiation. It was 30 rounds with 20 being all over and the last 10 being aimed directly at the tumors remaining. His cancer was higher risk and it was being aggressive. So they chose to add chemo with that. So every day he woke up and did chemo and then went to do radiation after, which you don't see that often.
Starting point is 00:53:43 with children. And then he got a short break and then we started the hard chemo. That was four chemos or three chemos together over a four day span. He would do that and as soon as his body showed like it was recovering, they would just start another round. At what point did you feel like we are progressing? Like we might actually do this. I got hopeful when a couple weeks after radiation,
Starting point is 00:54:13 They said we're seeing a response. So be hopeful that even though he was stage three, we're seeing a response. So that was probably our first turning point. And I think it was what gave us, you know, something to look forward to and help us through that next couple months that were pretty hard. When did you finish chemo, Fisher? First round or second round? All done. When were you all done?
Starting point is 00:54:39 In the last few months? Yeah. August. Did you do it? bring a bell? I was asking them, they didn't have one. They didn't have a bell? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:48 What? He was very upset over no bail. No bell? I saw a video of it and the second it was done. I'm like, where's my bell? Exactly. How did it feel to finish it? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I got to go do the things with my friends that I've always done. That's the best part of it being home and not having to worry about that anymore. What's your favorite memory from being at St. Jude? There's a lot. Give me a couple. There are no wrong answers here. Meen Lainey, me, Sam, uh,
Starting point is 00:55:20 probably meeting a lot of my friends there. Yeah. Pretty cool how they keep that environment, huh? Yeah. Like, it kind of sucks. I'll be honest, that why people are there, but it's such a positive place with everyone that is there.
Starting point is 00:55:35 What would you tell another kid, Fisher, that's listening right now, if they're starting to go through something like this? You, you're the one. that knows what to say. I don't. If one of your friends Yeah, what if one of your friends?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Any case? They're like, what? Yeah, what would you say? There's nothing to worry about. Like St. Jude's got you? Yeah. That's awesome. What would you say?
Starting point is 00:55:59 Oh, you know, it's crazy. I just keep thinking about that. You're the magnet on the fridge. Or like your grandma's fridge. That have St. Jude kids. It's hard. Even now, we get home. And I've gotten two since we've been home.
Starting point is 00:56:11 and it's kids that we met that were living in the same housing as us, you know? That are now on like the pictures. Yes, and it's the most unusual feeling, but like it hurts your heart to see them and then realize, you know, like, it's not just a picture. Like it was a kid we met and we played outside and drove remote controls with or, and there's just no way for people to know that kid's story, you know. And to a lot of parents out there, I would say most, I think, wow, this probably will never happen to me. I mean, that was you. We thought this, like, this would never happen to you. This just happens on TV.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Absolutely. But it did. And if someone's listening now and they're thinking about it, being a partner in hope, like, what would you ask to them? That you please consider this. There's no way to describe watching your child go through the treatment that they need, but not having to worry about if you can pay for what's going to save their life, I will forever be grateful for that. So if you're listening now,
Starting point is 00:57:17 you can text the word Bobby to 785-833, click the link from St. Jude to donate. That link is okay to click. If you text the word Bobby, which is my name, to 785-833, you'll get a link from St. Jude. Click the link, fill it out. For 19 bucks a month, you can help kids like Fisher at St. Jude fight cancer.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Another great thing is any other research they do, they share it openly and freely with everybody, every hospital, everyone. So even if you're not at St. Jude, and you're at a hospital somewhere else, like that research that these people that are listening that become partners to help their funding, it goes out to help other kids all around the country. So Fisher, you're a pretty cool kid.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You never know. Some kids aren't that cool. You're pretty cool, man. I've got to admit, you're pretty cool. Happy birthday. Thank you. It's pretty cool. I get to be 12 now. Remember the armpit hair thing.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Do you wear deodorant? Okay, good. Because some kids don't wear deodorant because they're like, my armpits don't stink yet. But like now it's time. I'm just going to be that guy. I'm going to be your friend and let you know, like, it's not starting to smell that bad. But not too much cologne. Do you ever wear a cologne?
Starting point is 00:58:26 Oh, my gosh, my brother. Oh, you know what it's like then. You know what the clothes? I can barely breathe in the car. Yeah, yeah, okay. Those tiny things of cologne that are extremely strong in your heart. Only supposed to like touch it. One little one.
Starting point is 00:58:40 What's he do? How old's he? He's 14. Okay. He like holds it down. Bad. You have an example then. You can do a little clone, but don't do the holding it down.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I feel like you're a smart guy. You got this. You can spray it and then walk through it. And only once. And only on special occasions. Mostly deodorant. But then if it's like, you know, you got something. You do a little clone big day.
Starting point is 00:59:02 You know, big up here, maybe you wear a little clown? You know, I don't. I don't. I don't ever work a clone. Okay, so. This is every day for you. though. I know this is pretty special. I can meet people like you. This is pretty cool for me. It's a pretty cool day for me. You're out there. You're listening now. Become a partner in hope.
Starting point is 00:59:16 The number 1-800-795-1800 or text the word Bobby to 785-833. Thank you guys for coming up. Thank you. You have made such a difference. I know you may just be thinking by yourself and by this goofballs show, but like you have made such a difference in being up here, sharing your story. and I think this and people hearing this I mean will be the version of somebody seeing it on a refrigerator and one day that you know you know the world works in weird ways
Starting point is 00:59:44 all right Fisher I'm gonna be watching for you what do you want to do when you grow up what's a deal I'm hoping to either exceed my dream and be a professional not motocross Enduro racer
Starting point is 00:59:58 okay I don't know I know motorcross I don't know what enduro is it's is it like long time riding a bike for like hours and days like racing through the woods oh like so cross country running but but motorcyclos yeah but motocross is tracks see everything and it's only for like five minutes my races are the younger kid it's like 20 minutes races that i do it's like 45 minutes they're wimps compared to you keep going yeah you got this so that's what you want to do yeah you
Starting point is 01:00:28 have a bike one time my friend had a moped I got on it you know the moped is it's like a ween bike. Yeah. Yeah, I wrecked it in like five minutes. Fell over immediately. Never got on it again. So I'm scared of those. You're a bigger dude than I am. Okay, Fisher, you're the man. Flana, thank you so much. Everybody out there, become a partner in hope, if you can. If you can't afford it right now,
Starting point is 01:00:46 we totally get it. If you can, you're looking for a reason to help change lives. 1-800-795-1800, and we'll be back. Wakey, Wanky, eggs and bakey. It's time for the Bobby Bones pre-show. Here's your host. Bones. That's on me. You weren't ready?
Starting point is 01:01:06 No, it wasn't that. I think I explained it to Ray wrong. Oh. Yeah, I think I explained it to. Keep us up. I think I explained it to Ray wrong. Did anybody hear my explanation? No.
Starting point is 01:01:15 You said just do a normal intro. Okay, that's what I thought. And I think Ray thought normal intro was pre-show. I meant regular morning show because we're doing two shows, right? We have the St. Jude show, and some of our affiliates can't carry the St. Jude show. And also, I want our podcast listeners to have content for today as well. And so I was not as descriptive as I should have been. I said, Ray, give me the normal Bobby Bone Show morning intro.
Starting point is 01:01:35 that they hear at the front of the podcast. I think what Ray heard was give me the morning, the pre-show. So, you know what? That's on me. You know, it sounded good, Ray. Yeah, no, it sounded great. I was confused.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yeah, hit it, hit it. Hey, welcome to Thursday show. Morning studio. Morning. Okay, so we're doing the St. Jude Radiothon. That's not this show. This is going to be content that we would have done had we not done the St. Jude Radiothon.
Starting point is 01:02:10 But we appreciate every single partner in hope. We'll give you a chance to be a partner in hope in this as well because we, kind of hang our hats on this. We're very passionate about it, and we hope you guys for 19 bucks a month can be a partner in hope. I can actually give you the number and then I got a lot of stuff to talk about. But if you want to text and be a partner in hope, which you can all the way through Sunday, I think, you can text the word Bobby to 785-833. And so become a
Starting point is 01:02:34 partner in hope. Text the word Bobby to 785-833. You'll get a Pimp and Joy sweatshirt that's made just for today. You really do. It does help. I mean, parents don't pay bills. There are no for travel or housing or food. And so more of that to come. But we are very passionate about it. We spend two days, you know, of the show doing it. So if you can become a partner and hope that would be awesome. I'd like to say, I haven't had a meal in three days.
Starting point is 01:03:01 M-E-A-L meal. I know I say that a little southern. I've had a stomach bug for about three days. And I'm like 60% better, which is great. Because you know how, Amy, when you're sick for a long time? And then you finally are just a little less sick. You're like, Hallelujah.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I feel great. Like run a marathon. Like you feel so good. And so there's a bit whenever I like push to talk. We were doing like commercials and stuff and you got to have a little more for the little energy. I had to pause and be like, oh, I might throw up or I might poop my pants. That'd be terrible.
Starting point is 01:03:30 It would be terrible. Not too good to say it's happened before and recently. So, but I'm feeling pretty good. But I haven't had a real meal in three days. Crackers. That type thing. Yeah. Stuff that you can keep down.
Starting point is 01:03:42 But I only say that now. because I am starting to feel better, which is awesome. What do you think is going to be your first meal? Why did you say it like that? Meal. That's how I say meal. I didn't think anything weird about it. People make fun of me for how I say meal.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Because it's like two syllables and it's like I am straight from the cement pond at the Beverly Hill Bellies. You're saying like meal. Meal. No, I say meal. Meal. Anyway, I don't know. It'll be something light and tight, you know? I don't know if you're craving something.
Starting point is 01:04:08 No, I have no need to eat anything. Like, I don't want to eat anything. I need to, but it's like I'm not even hungry. When I woke up this morning, like I had my first little thing, first little, like a bagel type thing, sourdough bagel that my wife got me. Oh, that reminds me. I'm going to pick up sourdough bread today. That didn't sit very well or what?
Starting point is 01:04:27 It's the talking. It's like the, oh gosh. Let me speak for you. I'm good. I just needed to get that out and nothing came out. So I got it. Let's guess. Let's finish your sentence for it.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I'm just ready to be hungry because when I'm hungry, my body is healing. Yeah. I'm ready to, for my body to be like, I'm starving, man. So you're doing chicken noodle suit? Yeah Crackers and suit had a little soup but I get the chick you know I don't want to talk about it's like yes But no Sprite broth for the most part
Starting point is 01:04:53 A little ginger ale little orange juice Oh there you go All the stuff that really doesn't matter but our grandma's made us think that when we were young So But there was no post show yet there's nothing yesterday I did the show and then I left Because I should have worked from home And worked from the studio at home that was my bad
Starting point is 01:05:07 But I did it showed up Almost poop my pants but didn't got out of here feeling good here today though do we want to put James on is James still on the phone he no you know did he hang up
Starting point is 01:05:21 put him on hold you guys know James James calls a voicemail all the time oh yeah James in what state everybody Virginia that's right can you put them on hey James hey James hey Bobby
Starting point is 01:05:33 what's up buddy you're awesome oh you're awesome James as long before you met even before you met Caitlin, you've been such a, you don't have any children yet or even, even a lady, you know, a wife at that point. But you've always been so supportive of the children. But so, yeah, I'm trying to arrange to get one of, um, the pimp and joy.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And by the way, it always sounds like pip and joy, but it's actually pimping, P-I-M-P-I-N, Joy. You're trying to arrange to get a shirt? Well, one of the sweatshirts. What do you want? We'll send you whatever you want. Just tell us what you want. I'm running the show here. What do you want?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Well, just a large St. Jews and a large pimping joy. I get them both for you. I am going to contribute. Huh? I get them both for you. All right. Hey, y'all are awesome. I love Bob Bond family.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And I was telling Scuba, y'all just have an awesome family team and I really mean that and y'all personified that because I came down to Allen Jackson's Good Time Bar and Grow and Abby made her debut you came to the show? He drove 10 hours dude he drove 10 hours to come to the show. He's like a legit supporter of it. So Abby's met him. I think James thought we like trying to set her up with him for a minute or something.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I've never met Abby. Yeah. Well, wait, you went to the show and didn't say hi? He kept his distance. Let him tell you what he did. Well, her co-worker, Kat, I went to the bathroom at the end of the show, and Abby, there was a side table. I guess Amy and maybe Shatira and Stevenson were I didn't look because I was there to make sure somebody showed up. And I told Scoobo about my high school girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And she drew up pre-New Year E party. and nobody showed up and she got so trashed so we didn't get to go to any of the other events because she was so done but uh that happens
Starting point is 01:07:48 hey James what happened if nobody shows up and that's why I drove to make sure that somebody was there and I'll tell you what also uh Abby's parents weren't there but her mother's best friend was
Starting point is 01:08:02 because I met her I was always because I sit next to her I know the story about all you all But I love the, that's why I call it the Bob Ball family show. You're always so enthusiastic and you give so much wisdom. But you really are family. Y'all really care about each other. Sometimes, but that's a real family.
Starting point is 01:08:20 No, we're family. Yeah, we're family. We want to kill each other too. Any of these shows you hear like they're all friends all the time, best friend, best friend, they're full of crap. They don't even like each other in real life. Any of these shows you hear podcasts, they fight with each other on, and then they come back the next day?
Starting point is 01:08:35 I mean, isn't that what family is? Exactly what it is. Or you want to punch them in the freaking head. But then you're like, I guess... Tell us how you really feel. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you can...
Starting point is 01:08:44 This way, too. No, for sure. But if you're like on the side of the road or the flat tire, we'll go help you. For sure. Eddie, say what you want to say. If you need a kidney, I'll give it to you. We'll give you a kidney.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Hey, James, I think we'll make sure we have your address and stuff. We'll just send you a whole bunch of stuff. We appreciate you call and appreciate you being a part of the career here, buddy. We feel like whenever you leave a voicemail or you call, we love it. So please don't stop, okay? Hey, can I tell you the ultimate tell me something good? I'd love to hear it. I mean, I lived it.
Starting point is 01:09:11 It's my life. January, 2019, I was fine. Felt fine. But I was installing a rural mailbox at the wrong house from the wrong street. My brain obviously wasn't getting enough oxygen. and so I flopped over and if I had been on the right street at the right house my anonymous guardian angel would not have been driving by
Starting point is 01:09:46 and saw me flop over and apparently she started CPR got hold I call them the second first responders aka the Fort Washington Hospital shout out our Fort Washington Rescue Squad team and when they got to me, my heart was beaten one or two times a minute. So they got me in the rescue mobile, and they're racing me to Fort Washington Hospital. And along the way, they had to zap me three times.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And they're racing me through their emergency room door, and I flatlined on them, and flatlined 33 minutes. But the medical teams, the professionalism and the coordination amongst all of them. Fort Washington Hospital knew that with their staff, that I was way above their capabilities, saved my life. So they already had a medevac on the way. So they got me on life support and air vacate me,
Starting point is 01:10:55 to MediFact me to Minnesota, Washington, D.C. I was on life support there nine days. They ran brain scans and brought me back to life. And I didn't come out for, I was on the 8th. I started to come back to on 24th. And I got released on my 57th birthday four days later. But there's more to the rest of the story, or there is a rest of the story. So I flopped over and one of the spectators, one of the neighbors, my vehicle was parked in front of driveway.
Starting point is 01:11:39 So she found it, you know, proper to move it and found one of my business cards. So I'm a small company. I only have three people at work with me. Their names are me, myself, and I, so if me or I don't do it. but she called that number and you know obviously that's just going to go to voicemail and uh but she had the perseverance and the competency and thought the solution to the problem didn't think the problem the problem's already there but she thought the solution that's why i came up with that mind we have a problem think the solution so what she did was she googled my company
Starting point is 01:12:27 And because I bought my home from my sister 15 years prior and never had a landline, my sister's number was still associated with her older address, and that's how my family found out. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. Wow, this is crazy. That's crazy. Because otherwise, yeah, they wouldn't have known where he was. And so what you're saying, too, is this was going to happen to you regardless.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Like physically, your body was going to give out, and had you been at the other place where you were supposed to be, that person that did all this work would not have been there to have seen you fall over and then follow through like that. I come from a very Catholic family. Four of my five aunts were Catholic nuns. My fifth one never took her final vow because she took care of my grandmother, who was elderly. Bishop Sullivan of Richmond is my second cousin. I guess that's the way we were always put. told
Starting point is 01:13:26 my father's brother married Bishop's soul and sister so I don't know if that's second cousin
Starting point is 01:13:37 put that I don't know the math but two of my answered buried at St. Mary's
Starting point is 01:13:43 across on Notre Dame and so is one of our close family friends sister
Starting point is 01:13:48 John Frederick and if you've never been to the grata at Notre Dame I'm telling
Starting point is 01:13:53 you it's the most humbly experience in my entire life. I mean, it is so, it's just, it's so warm and humbling and
Starting point is 01:14:06 just awesome. I don't know. I don't know the Bob Bowles family, but that is, that's my love story. And, and, you know, my favorite county is PG County. I live across the river.
Starting point is 01:14:24 I call it Unfair Tax County. It's really Fairfax County. I call that unfair tax. That's a predominantly wealthiest black community in America. These are a night. I don't, my father's like, what are you doing working over there? Don't you read the paper. Don't you watch the news.
Starting point is 01:14:39 I said, Dad, I don't work an apartment townhouses. I work at single family homes. And, Dad, I'm telling you, these are the most kindest, nicest, most grateful, God-fearing people. So anyway, I was living with my father last three and a half years of his life. And I was working over in PG County, and this is way back in 2001. I've been in business six years.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And I'm always, you know, just I'm just telling you, it's an awesome community. So anyway, all these people would mail their checks to me. And they always had a post-it note or a thank you card. and it was all PG County and my dad referred to my mail as my love letters and, yep, and I'm telling you what, I'm colorblind
Starting point is 01:15:34 and I know your show is as well I know how close you are to like Tane Brown and Daris Rucker and and Amy with, you know, adopted three kids. No, we understand, Jane. I know.
Starting point is 01:15:50 We understand what you're saying. And listen, we eventually have to move on to something else here, but we really appreciate that I also, like in real life I'm colorblind, but also I'm not colorblind. Like I do see color and I think everybody that has a different color of skin, you know, it goes through different things. And, you know, someone goes, oh, I don't see color. I kind of think that's a lie.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I do see color. And I do understand people go through different things because of how they were born and what they were born into. But I do understand your sentiment and also agree with your sentiment. But that's crazy. The whole crazy. I'm glad we gave James some space here to air that out. His own personal tell me something good. It's his life.
Starting point is 01:16:22 A great listener and a great caller. and we've never spent that. One day, one day, one day I want him to call and leave us a voicemail about why he was doing the wrong mailbox. I know that that worked out in his favor, but you know, we have stories sometimes where people, you know, throw a reckon ball into the wrong house and it's like, whoopsie, I mean, a mail, you know, how do you make the, what was the mix up, you know? Well, sometimes they can't, they reckon ball the wrong house. That's what I'm saying. Did you say that? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I was reading a text from somebody saying, this is a long call. Right when you said that? Well, that's why I said to call back and leave us a voicemail. I got it. I know. Sorry, I wasn't. I'd also like a voicemail to see, like, what happened when he would flatline for 30 minutes? Like, what did he see?
Starting point is 01:17:01 Great point. But you can leave a voicemail for that. James, buddy, we're going to send you that stuff. Thank you for listening, and we'll talk to you soon, okay, man. Hey, take care of the Bob Bond family team and take care of the children. They're just fighting for their life. And the other thing is, you can say, Bob, because you've never been a father, but you've always been supportive of St.
Starting point is 01:17:22 and like, you know, I'm an uncle many times over. Actually, I'm an great uncle, and a couple of years from now, assuming the Lord gives me extra time, more extra time, I'll be a great, great uncle, because I come for a very Catholic family, very small clan, but I'll tell you what, they're breeding like, well, they've been breed pretty quick my whole life. Well, look, look, listen, we can do a whole hour with James, I feel, pretty easily. I definitely wanted to give James room to stretch out in time.
Starting point is 01:17:52 talk to us a little bit. Don't want to be rude, but I do have to move on, James, but we really appreciate you. We're going to send you some stuff, okay, buddy? All right. Take care of the family. Your Bobbon family, take care of the children. All right, buddy. Thanks, James.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Bye. The fact that he drove 10 hours to make sure Abby didn't have a party by herself. Amazing. That's why that guy gets a talk for 15 minutes. Just sit back and listen. And it's like you never know the gain of something that happens when it's rough, but Abby benefited from his, this guy's, James is great. girlfriend's party that she threw years back where nobody showed up and she drank too much.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Like, then that benefited Abby. I was like if people started calling my black friends too. Just be like, I know you like black people. Let me list out your black friends. And I have more black friends than that, but, you know, I can't. And I'm like, you know. That was interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:40 I don't think he was doing it from any play. No, no, no, no, no. I think he was just like, you like everybody. And I always think it's funny when it's like, here's your one. I did think you're talking about your eyes, eyes. Me too, colorblind. And then I'm like, I am that. colorblind but I just want to say I'm not colorblind toward what people go
Starting point is 01:18:55 through being different from different places of different races like but yeah yeah I always love when someone can listen to black friends they forgot Charlemagne they forgot I got like nine others but there's ever a complete list we can you know want to do that I'm odd yeah we got we got we got lots of Mexican friends too we need to do that we go down that list though it's a long list it's like 40 okay man I had so I had a huge list to get to stuff um Yeah, thank you. Could you guys hear Scuba say that?
Starting point is 01:19:24 No. No. Okay. Thank you. I do want to talk about stealing. We can't have, and I know it's nobody here, but I'll burn the building down and people start stealing from this office. Oh, no. People are taking stuff from my office, which there's not, I don't put a lot in there because of the last building we were in.
Starting point is 01:19:45 People stole, like, good stuff. Meaning it doesn't matter if they stole bad stuff. I'm still pissed. But they still, like I had four. example, I've known Lainey Wilson since before she had a record deal. And she had written this real nice thing. And it was like, you know, once artist, if I've had a relationship with them or have like helped them or whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:07 And she definitely didn't need my help. And I'm not saying that, but I'm saying like, I was a big supporter early, early, early. And we had her do a million dollar show with us. And so she wrote this thing. And it was like, whatever. Somebody stole it out of my office. That was just one of many things.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Like that was valuable to me because that has like sentimental value. could I get Landy to sign something tomorrow? Yeah, but that's not the point of it. So we started like, somebody still raised hot pockets. Oh, yeah. Toaster struddle. Toaster struddles from the freezer.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Yeah, you know, even better. Freezer, that was a little different. If anybody starts, if we, I'll burn the building down. Okay. Don't. It's good, but what do we know? I'm not really sure what's happening,
Starting point is 01:20:47 but I sent an email to two important people that says the water is gone in our green room. The fridge was stocked. on Monday and we had a pack in the cabinet, now nothing. It's not just about the water disappearing. It's the principle of it. Someone came into the green room. Oh, you said this.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Yeah, yeah. Someone came into the green room. I'm talking about the green room. Yeah, well, no one's still from your office this time. Well, the green room is still our space. That's why I said this is our space. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. You shouldn't walk in someone.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Like, I won't walk up to your desk and just start taking your pencils. It's just a little easier to, if a place is wide open and there's a fridge. So you're only going to burn it down if it's your office? Yeah, because it's locked. Someone has to get in there with a key and has to know somebody. Yeah, that's different. Yeah, but no one stole it from your office this time. If, I'll just say this about the green room.
Starting point is 01:21:27 If, like, you work in this building, they shouldn't take anything of ours. If there's a wide open community refrigerator, I'd probably take water or two from that. I'll be honest. The green room's not a community refrigerator. But it's wide open. There is a community fridge in the kitchen. In the kitchen. In the kitchen.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Over here, and the green room's open and there's a water in there. I probably would take one of those. Oh. I wouldn't burn it out for that. You would take all the waters? Yeah, no, that sells. One bottle, sure, fine. What did they take, like, the case?
Starting point is 01:21:52 My point is, a case and a full fridge. Let's just, let's just the whole case. Like, whole case. Now I feel bad for them. Now I think they're thirsty. They need water. They need water. But they just ask.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Now I'm sympathetic to their problem. Just ask. Give them a key to my office. It totally switches. Yeah, we can't have stealing here. I'll knock him in. You heard me say it. If people start stealing, I'll just work from home for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Okay. But how it? Okay. And that's up to you. You guys figure out what you're doing. Okay. And deal with that. If they saw the whole case, that's a dirty dog.
Starting point is 01:22:28 It's somebody's like taking on water or two. That's not a big deal from like the mate from that area. But a whole case. Well, it isn't a matter of three days. I know. All right. A lot of water. I feel like this is all been trivial so far.
Starting point is 01:22:39 What is it about our show? I will say though, like I walked by one of the conference rooms and they had these nice tumblers that said I heart media on it. And I thought about getting one. But good thing I didn't because they had a meeting right after that for all those people. Yeah, they were laid out for people in the meeting. Hey, community. But I did think about it.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Hey, sounds like community to me. Yeah. Okay, okay. Don't see, there was a meeting the other day that room was so full of people and I was like, who? I don't even know who. They were. Oh, they were? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Yesterday? No, I met the dentist. This was different. This was like, I don't know. They looked like they worked here or doing something. They're having a party. They renting space. They rent out space or let people use space to work in office.
Starting point is 01:23:15 It's a thing, I guess, in larger cities where you can use space. Boardroom sharing. Well, it's almost like that. The we work, but a version of that where it's like, hey, come by like my wife, for example, in San Francisco. Is my office a wee work room? No. Is that what they just figured out?
Starting point is 01:23:29 I think we just figured it out. I've been building in your office. Okay, this all makes sense now because I feel like I'm at this point seen most people to work in our office. It's got microphones and a board to record stuff. You guys will never believe it. Okay, this totally makes sense. Yeah, it's like shared workspace.
Starting point is 01:23:44 But I saw that show and that show was awesome. Like, we work was cool. They had parties and stuff. You mean the documentary that was, or the. scripted show about The show with Jared Leto What did they call that? Right.
Starting point is 01:23:56 And then came back. What do they call that when it's a It's a real show? A biopic? Is that what it's called? Yeah. Okay. Biopic.
Starting point is 01:24:04 We got other stuff to do. Real stuff to do. You good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good. Oh, I'm a 75% here, but I'm good. Oh, wow, you've already gone up 15%. Because earlier was 60. James did that.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Let's do. And what we're going to do, too. Just so everybody knows, I know we're live on the stream right now. but we're going to put this as the second half of the podcast that goes up today. Okay. Scova. When we put this as a whole podcast?
Starting point is 01:24:30 Yes. Put this as the second half instead of the first half because we're going to break in a minute. Okay. But we'll put this as the second half because we got like stuffed that we need to do that or they put this at the front. I see what you're saying yes. I know where you're going with this. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Let's go, Ray. Give me voicemail number four, Des. What up, Bobby Bones? I left you a voicemail about a month ago about going to rehab and shit. Man, do I sound silly. being like, I'm going for this person. I'm doing it for this. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:24:55 My mind was changed very quickly. I am healing myself, by myself, for myself, and the rest is yet to come in. Love y'all. I made it. Oh, love that. Well, I don't know how I feel about that, but first of all, death sounds 12 in this clip.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Does it sound very young? Not that young. I think it's her personality. She's a woman. Oh, it's her. Does it's a woman. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:18 It's either a young boy or a woman. But she sounds very excited. Played the original for me. Hello, Bobby Bones. I'm currently taking off on a six-hour drive to a mental health facility in Denver, Colorado. My last chance to save my family, I've struggled with addiction and mental health my whole life. Just wondering if you could tell my wife, Jessica, that I love her, and I'm going to miss her, and I'm doing this for her, and this is the most gangster shit I've ever done.
Starting point is 01:25:44 I love you guys, and you're going to get me through this. Thank you. Sounds more adult there because she's crying, I think. And she also mentions wife, which is you have to be a adult. Yeah, no, I don't like the first voicemail at all. I know you guys are like, hey, good. I don't like it at all. Why?
Starting point is 01:25:57 Do you know how hard it is to do it by yourself? No, no, no, no. I think what she's saying now, she went. She went. She's out. She spent her days there and she's saying, because you encourage, what happened was she sent that note. And then you said, hey, look, I know that you're saying you're doing this for your wife, but you need to do it for yourself.
Starting point is 01:26:12 And this is her follow-up message saying, like, because that's so true. Like, if you're going to get sober, it has to be for. yourself. It can't be for anybody else or it may not stick. Can I hear that one again then? Ray, the first one. What up, Bobby Bones? I left you a voicemail about a month ago about going to rehab and shit. Man, do I sound silly, being like, I'm going for this person. I'm doing it for this. Hell no. My mind was changed very quickly. I am
Starting point is 01:26:38 healing myself, by myself, for myself, and the rest is yet to come in. Love y'all. I made it. Yeah, she made it through the program. So she went Denver. She made it out and I think quickly there she learned, oh, I need to be doing this for myself. Nobody can do this for me. So I've got to do it by myself and for myself. But obviously I guess by myself is where I got a bit thrown. I see how that's confusing. But I just remembered what you told her after the first voicemail. Which was what? Which was that yeah, that's great. You're wanting to do this, but do this for yourself because she was like, I'm doing it for my wife.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And it's, yeah, it has to be for yourself. Then that's awesome. Yeah, because my initial reaction says you can't do it by yourself. Correct. Correct. You need support, but, which it seems like she got the support. And that's when she also quickly realized that, oh, I can't do this for, I mean, sure, you want to sober up for your family.
Starting point is 01:27:34 That makes sense. But at the end of the day, it has to be for you. That's why I wish today were Thanksgiving. Why? Because I'm thankful for you to set me straight on that. No problem. Walked right into that one. Today can be Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:27:44 No, it can't be. Sure. Just a few days ago. Any day can be Thanksgiving. You practicing gratitude as you doing your Thanksgiving. Yeah, man. That's what you call it. You don't have to have turkey and all that.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I like it, though. But I haven't had a meal in a few days. That's why you're saying this. Hey, look, I just root for you to have the support that you need. This is one of those situations just from dealing with personal experience that you need support. And I hope you got it. And I hope you have it. And I hope you are doing it for you because then you will be doing it for everybody else.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Like it can't, you're not doing it. You'll be doing it for you and it will affect everybody else, I should say. Great. I'm glad Amy interpreted that because I did not interpret that correctly. Okay. Let's see. What else? That first voicemail is tough to hear, though.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Man. Yeah. She's driving there. And I really hope that's what happened. Yes. That's what she would. I want to say that about cursing. Somebody had DM me said they heard me curse on a podcast or something.
Starting point is 01:28:34 I didn't, but I don't care. Cursing to me is not bad. I want people to understand something about me and not cursing. I haven't cursed in my definition of cursing in, I don't know, seven, eight years. at this point. I don't not curse because I think cursing is bad. I don't not curse because there are certain disciplines I like to have inside of me to just stay sharp. And there are things if I say like pissing off, people like, well, that's curse word. Yeah, to you. But I don't not curse because I think there is something inherently wrong with a word. I like to, so if I curse big deal, don't care,
Starting point is 01:29:06 I like, when people don't curse, I'm like, why don't you curse you a little went? I don't curse because when I was writing kids books and I was doing a bunch of comedy and I was writing even doing this show, we don't curse in the studio. So I was like, I'm just going to discipline myself to not say any curse words. And the curse words to me are the ones that would get me fine by the FCC, the S word, the F word. The C word. That's a tough one. That's not even really a curse word. That's a nasty one. Oh, that's the worst. Yeah, it's a nasty one. Those to me, that's cursing. And it's not because I feel like not cursing makes me better or more in favor in God's eyes than any way whatsoever. Because I think a sound.
Starting point is 01:29:40 is just a sound. Oh, got the C word. Okay. And with that, I would compare it to this. If I say the F word and I say it, that's a sound. If I were to travel to Pakistan or Paris or to somebody who doesn't speak English, a place that doesn't speak English, I don't know English. And I say that same word.
Starting point is 01:29:59 It means nothing to them. I bet they know that word. I'm saying they don't speak English. So it doesn't matter what the word is. Let me just go for a second. So you can say any curse word in English. and if they don't understand another language, to them that's just a sound,
Starting point is 01:30:12 the same way they would say a word in Mandarin, and we wouldn't know what that was, just a sound. So there is nothing inherently bad about a sound. But if I went to a country that did not speak English and I stole, well, there is something inherently bad about stealing or killing. Or, like, those are actually bad things that regardless of boundaries of where you live, language, culture, like those are bad regardless.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Words are just words. I feel like I could say every sound, I could say every curse word ever, and it makes me no better or worse than anybody else that's anywhere near me or far from me. So if I do happen to say a curse word, which I haven't, I don't give a... Because it's not about that. It literally is not about me. I don't curse.
Starting point is 01:31:04 I'm doing a moral thing. People that claim moral, are often the opposite because the people that live moral don't have to claim moral. It's like, you know who is the meanest in my Instagram comments or TikTok comment? And not TikTok so much,
Starting point is 01:31:18 but Instagram comments or Twitter or Facebook, people that publicly proclaim Bible verses in their or only loving the next person next to me. You don't need to say that stuff if you're living that stuff. So whenever someone is like, I heard him curse, he's such a hypocrite.
Starting point is 01:31:37 No, no, I'm not a hypocrite. I curse all day if I want to. I don't think it makes me better or worse than you. I'm probably worse than you anyway. But there's no way you curse, though. There's no way. Oh, I know. My version of curse, but to some people, like, say, pissing off is curse.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Oh. Or did the D.I.C. Okay, sometimes you said. Well, I won't talk about that as a human body part, but I'm like, that dude is such a dick. Like, I don't feel like that also, that's not a bad. That's not a curse word to me. It could be a word that is, I wouldn't say around a kid. I wouldn't be, like, lunchboxed in a car with Eddie's kids.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Okay, whoa, whoa, why am I getting stray, man? I'm catching strays over here for no reason. I would never say that around a kid, but I don't consider that to be a curse word to me, so therefore I don't say it because it's a self-discipline. Right. The same thing with the P word. I would never refer to a woman's body part ever with that.
Starting point is 01:32:24 But if somebody's like a wimp, every once I'd be like, why you miss your pussy? Come on. Don't. But I would say there's a different. I would never refer to a guy's body part, is that with a D word, or a woman's body part. That was a, but.
Starting point is 01:32:39 I can't believe you said this. Most unattractive thing ever. But I'm just showing there's no rationale to this. There are no rules that I'm right or wrong about. I'm living by my standards that I've set myself and everybody else can suck. I'm just kidding. But yeah, that's the deal. So I got a whole DM about it.
Starting point is 01:32:57 It was like, you say you don't curse, but we heard you say the FR and I'm like, no, you didn't, first of all. No chance. There's no chance. Secondly, who cares? I wouldn't say it on the air because I don't want to. it defined by the FCC. Well, like, could you go into like a board meeting, like a company and be like, all right, here's the deal?
Starting point is 01:33:17 Yes. Could he or a human? No, like a human. I feel like automatically they'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, it depends on the environment. Absolutely. It depends on the culture that's set early. It's just like even head football coaches.
Starting point is 01:33:28 There are some that are F, FFF, F and that's the culture. And there are some that are exactly the opposite of that. Or I would say, let's not use bad words. let's use demeanor. If we're ever after a show and I just start screaming at everybody and I'm like
Starting point is 01:33:44 what would that tell you about me that day? Amy, if I'm so mad and I'm just yelling at, let me just going to say you, I've never yelled at you, but I'm just saying if I'm like, but I'm yelling, what would you think?
Starting point is 01:33:58 Based on your demeanor, I would think something is wrong with you. Something really bad. Like maybe like, I don't know, go, we need to check him in somewhere. Like something's totally off. If you're screaming or yelling, because that's not the way you deal with things.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Or somebody here did something that is completely detrimental to what the entire, our world is that we built. It must be something so severe. It's never happened. I have never just yelled at anyone. I've never, but if I did, it would be like,
Starting point is 01:34:25 I'm not okay or something is really not okay here. Right? One of the two things. Something's to a level. So I would also think if you go into a boardroom and there's a, boardroom. When we've been in boardrooms? No, I just, we work. They do we work here one day, and all of a sudden he's got boardrooms.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Hey, I like going in there sometimes. It's pretty cool. I'm like, oh, it just feels, I don't know when I'm working there. Eddie does go sit in there by himself. Like, imagine this, if a CEO who doesn't, all of a sudden it's like, we got to eff and do this. And you're like, oh, this is serious today. Yes. Like, way more than ever before. Well, if you're saying it like that, if you were to say that, it would be like,
Starting point is 01:34:58 okay, he means business. But if you're like going off and angry, then that would be weird. But same, same, because the culture's been said of what you don't do. so when the culture is shifted to where it never is, something is really off, either the person or the situation, and it's got to be fixed. And the person could be the person saying it
Starting point is 01:35:14 or the person receiving it or the situation of everyone involved. Anyway, it makes me want to curse just to start cursing to piss everybody off. If I only do it for me, I don't do it for anybody else. I don't do it to be like, oh, he doesn't curse. I do it because I'm like, I don't want to slip up in a situation
Starting point is 01:35:30 or when I was writing a lot of jokes, be able to use that as a crutch for humor. That's where a lot of it came from. Because, man, you can be so funny with the F word. It's the funniest word ever. And I was like, I don't want to do that. It's also very therapeutic. And I wanted to work completely clean
Starting point is 01:35:49 so I could do private events because they pay a ton of money when a company brings you out to tell jokes to 1,000 workers at X company. So that's what it is. So F off everybody What's funny is like my wife and I don't curse obviously around our kids But the second we're alone
Starting point is 01:36:10 We're like sailors all of a sudden it's so weird Yeah lunchbox walks a very fine line though Of doing it close to the door And at times you can almost hear it in here And that's why we don't nobody's allowed to curse in this room at all Yeah, it's a no no no in this room I know that Even if like we're not even close to being on air No no no no no no just because of the implications of it being on the air
Starting point is 01:36:31 So there's no cursing here But that's also not a moral thing. That's how we don't want to go to FCC jail. Yeah. But lunch wugs, do you guys are on your kids? I'm not on purpose. Well, no. But wasn't your kid like Sam?
Starting point is 01:36:42 My kid, you know, he knows how to use some of them. Okay. I would imagine if you say him, they slip out. Yeah, they slip out. It happens. Like, you drop something on your foot. It's hard to say, oh, oh, oh. I don't really let it slip out.
Starting point is 01:36:55 I mean, I guess I have accidentally. But the other day I used one intentionally because I needed to know. Culture change. I meant business. Yeah, that's a culture teacher. And I was dead serious about what I was saying. And I added it in. And I even said, yeah, you heard me say that because I need you to know how serious I am.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Dang. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it would be like if I came in and we're like, what the, you guys be like, oh, like something real bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so here's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Because this, we just like half an hour. We're going to have to break for a few minutes. So we're going to go off the stream. We're going to, this is the end of the podcast. though. But if you guys are watching YouTube or whatever, we're going to be back in a few minutes, and we'll do the beginning of the show.
Starting point is 01:37:38 But everybody got on all those things? Oh, yeah. Okay, and by the way, become a partner in hope. Why the F not? That would be awesome if you would. No, seriously, we spent the whole show today doing the Radiothon for St. Jude, and we feel like we owe it to you guys
Starting point is 01:37:54 that also come to us for content to do a separate side show, which is what we're doing here. So if you guys can become a partner in hope, if you don't listen to the show that's live in the morning, please do. Text the word Bobby to 785-833. That would be awesome.
Starting point is 01:38:08 7-8-3-8-33. You'll get the Pimp and Joy sweatshirt. It's $19 a month. You help kids. And the whole thing with helping kids is it helps our families. Nobody pays a bill at St. Jude, a parent. There are no bills because of Partners in Hope. And there are times I understand people like, well, I want to donate to my local
Starting point is 01:38:24 hospital. And that's great. Love it, do it. But St. Jude is not local to us. But the reason that we are so involved in St. Jude is because it's local to everybody in the way. They take kids from every single city in the whole country. And all you need is to have a cancer that they research, diagnose, try to heal.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Heal is not the word. What I'm looking for? I feel like heal. Okay, fair enough. Treat? Good. Thank you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:49 And they go immediately and all the bills are paid for. So is it in your town? Probably not. Does it help your town? Absolutely. Yes, 100%. And all the research that they do, because a lot of hospitals, they, they, do research so they can have and almost own that.
Starting point is 01:39:05 The exclusive. So people have to go to their hospital. St. Jude doesn't do that. That research goes out to every hospital. That's why we are involved with St. Jude. But sometimes you don't have the ability to do it. Trust me. Been there.
Starting point is 01:39:19 It's 19 bucks a month. Also, sometimes you're just like, I want to do this because it's important to me, and that's great too. So we're just saying if you want to be a partner and hope that would be awesome, 19 bucks a month. Text that Bobby to 785, 833, and you'll get a link when you text that. I should say that.
Starting point is 01:39:36 You'll get a link back from St. Jude because it won't like take out of your phone bill. You get a link from St. Jude and then you fill it out and it takes 19 bucks a month after that. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:39:44 We're ending the podcast now. This is it. Hope you enjoyed the first half, which we haven't done yet. But if you're listening to the podcast, you already heard it. All right, bye. A win is a win.
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