The Bobby Bones Show - TUES PT 2: Deep Dive On 'The Big Lonely' + *SPOILER ALERT* Greatest And Worst TV Finales + Is Eddie Getting A Pellet?

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

We were given the assignment from a listener who has been diagnosed with terminal cancer to watch The Big Lonely (2014). It's a documentary of Michael Nelms lives in isolation with his dog in the remote Oregon wilderness. We go into a deep dive with our reactions to the film's story and how it affected Bobby deeply when it comes to his thoughts on homelessness. ***SPOILER ALERT***: Bobby breaks down the best and worst TV finales of all time.... in his opinion! . His list of the greatest spans a mix of comedies and dramas, while shows like How I Met Your Mother, Seinfeld, and Game of Thrones are widely considered by fans to have the worst finales. We discuss whether or not Eddie will go through the procedure that Amy did of getting a pellet put into his body to boost his testosterone.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. All right, we're going to talk in-depth about that documentary, the big, lonely later in this podcast because some of you guys didn't watch it, and I know you don't want to sit through 15 minutes. of us talking about it. So we're going to do the normal part two here. But if you're here for that, we do get to that later in the podcast. All right, just so everybody knows what's going on. Hey everybody, Bobby here. We're going to talk about TV fineries. And the reason that I bring it up even today

is one of my favorite shows. I think ever now the boys on Amazon is ending. It's the series finale of the show. You may not watch the show. It doesn't matter with what we're talking about here. but I think if I were doing my top shows ever, The Boys, which is a show about superheroes but in real life, if they lived amongst us and how complicated that would be. Like, that show's awesome. But the office would be up there, Walking Dead.

Do love the Boys. If you haven't watched The Boys, it's on Amazon. Check it out. I was looking first at the list of the most watched TV finale in U.S. history. The number one finale of all time, were 105 million people in 1983 that watched MASH.

That's so many people watching anything. That's Super Bowl-esque numbers now. Now, granted, there were three channels back then, but that's still a massive number. I mean, that is the Super Bowl. Like, think about after the Super Bowl's over, how many people are talking about it, even if you didn't watch it because you love sports,

you watched it because it was kind of a cultural moment. That same feeling was MASH. That same amount of people was MASH. And number two was Cheers, 93 million. The fugitive at number three. This is 1967. I never watched the black and white show. I did watch the movie, though, with Harrison Ford.

The one-arm man did it. And I'm not even sure if the one-arm man really did it now that I think about it. But I feel like he did. But that was the thing the whole time, like the fugitives running and who did it? It wasn't me. It was the one-armed man. Seinfeld at four, which a lot of people were upset at the Seinfeld ending because you went through all of that,

and at the end, they go to jail. By the way, there's going to be a lot of spoilers in this for old shows. So if you hear a show that you're currently watching, my bad, but they're all old shows. But Seinfeld at the very end, they're all in a jail cell, those four. And, well, then nothing. But that's what the whole show was about. Like, I enjoy shows that end like they began

and like they transpired. And that whole show was just situationally and they say it was about nothing. I like the ending. Most people did not. Friends at five with 52 million and then quickly walk into the top 10 Magnum P.I., which I did watch.

The final episode, I think was 1988, or maybe that's when the show started, but I did watch Magnum P.I. And I think that Higgins was the voice the whole time. I haven't thought about this in forever. I may have to have my team over here look and see if Higgins, who was the butler. I think Higgins was the guy calling the shots the whole time. Now my mind's blown even thinking about that again.

But the only reason I watch Magnopi is because it was on before WCW wrestling on TBS. And back in the day, TBS came at five after every hour. Every new show started at five after. Was Higgins the guy the whole time, Brandon? I believe so, yeah. That was crazy because Higgins was like the butler or the helper or the assistant. And then at the end, you realize Higgins was the one calling the shots the whole time. Mind blown.

The Cosby Show at 7, all in the family at 8, family ties at 9, and home improvement at 10. I didn't mind the home improvement finale. Because at the end, Tim is quitting. I'm going from memory here. Tim is quitting tool time because Jill has a much better job. And they're moving to another city in the Midwest. and what I remember most about it is, Tim retiring in the very final scene,

it's kind of funny because you look back and not only are they moving to the new city because they didn't want to leave their house behind. They're actually driving their house on a big flat bottom. They're moving their whole house. Get it like they didn't want to, so the whole house is on the back of the... Anyway, those are the most watched TV finale

in U.S. history. Now, what I did is I made a list of the greatest finale, according to me, and I did three that sucked, according to me. Didn't go by any fancy list because some of these shows probably aren't even cool enough to make folks lists. I'm going to do my first one that sucks. I watched every episode of Roseanne.

That finale sucked because what happens is Roseanne starts in Lantford, Illinois. It is the story of an American family, just going through the struggles of an American family, family dynamic financially in the Midwest, normal America. And my mom really loved that show. I think because she felt like it represented us a lot, going through the struggle, odd family dynamics.

And so you really felt like a part of the family for a lot of the show. And then they won the lottery in the show. And they were all super millionaires from winning the lottery. And they're doing all this extravagant stuff. And it kind of lost its place there. And then at the very end, you realize, it was a dream. And it actually split off

when Dan had a heart attack and then it was like all that lottery stuff was a dream and never really happened. I hate when they cover it up with a dream.

I never watched the JR who shot JR. What was that show? Who should, whatever it was. And I ended up being a dream too. What was the show? Dynasty.

No. What was the show with Jay? Dallas. Dallas. That was it. That was before me. But that was it too. Like all of a sudden

it was a dream. shows that use dreams to get away with the fact that they had terrible writing the last few seasons I don't do middle finger but I do ring finger huh that's pretty close to flipping you off that's as close as I can do to flipping you off hate dreams in shows especially when it like removes whole seasons or as series finalies okay so that's one that sucked I'm gonna do three now that I loved the office one of my favorite shows of all time I think a lot of people felt like when Michael Scott, Steve Krell left the office to that show was dead.

And to be honest, they had to stunt cast for a while because they brought in Will Ferrell. And at first it was kind of odd. Then it got good. And then he was out. And that was cool because he kind of knew when to leave. And they brought in some other. But then the show kind of gained its steam again. Like Andy started to be a great character.

Aaron started to be a great character. Dwight was real strong. the office really found its legs again at the end. So not only was it awesome, kind of had a weird little down, came back. The finale was pretty much perfect because it was Dwight and Angela's wedding. And Michael Scott, Steve Carell came back.

And he came back with, that's what she said, and then he just shows up at the end. And then they do the documentary in the auditorium because that whole show of the office was really a documentary that they were shooting on, again, the dynamics of inside an office. And so the entire cast is up on stage talking about the last few years. It just felt like the right way to end the television part of it. And, you know, Jim and Pam end up moving to Austin

so Jim can pursue his agent career after he had stayed back. for Pam to have her career. Michael Scott was off in Colorado with Holly. They had gotten married. They had a kid. He was super happy with the kid. I loved it. From my favorite show,

it definitely could have left me wanting more because I loved that show so much the entire time it was on. I feel like the office ending was the perfect ending. They did try spinoff with Dwight. That didn't work. But it's like friends, right?

They tried the Joey spin off to it. It didn't work. But we don't think about that. We don't think about Jordan on the Wizards. We don't think about Akeem Olajuwon with the Raptors. No, we remember the good times. I'm putting the office as probably my favorite finale of all time because it was my favorite show and it finaleed as good as the show.

Made that up. Cheers is a great one. Now, Cheers was a little before my time, but I remember watching it when I was very young. I believe it was on NBC. and I've seen the finale a few times since. So I don't know that I was sitting watching TV when it ended, but I do love the finale where the bar is just closed one at a time. They're out and it's just, I believe Sam was in the bar

and someone came down at the very end. I'm going from memory here. Because I felt like this episode would only be authentic if I only went from memory because these are the ones that mattered the most to me. So if I'm factually slightly inaccurate, it. I feel like that's okay. I'm sure you'll tell me if I am in the comments. But I liked it because after he closed the bar, you know, someone kind of walks down the stairs and goes, hey, and then he goes, nah, we're closed. And that was it. That was the end of cheers. I thought that

was a really quality way to end the show. I went to the real cheers in Boston, except it looked nothing like the cheers on the TV show. Like it was just like, they didn't make. They didn't try. Like the sign was out there and then you walk in, you're like, dang, this is going to be like Cheers. And then you walk in, it looks like the Aquarium Bar in 17 College Cities. It's basically the same kind of deal. It's cool to go see. But Kevin, you ever been to Cheers in Boston? Yeah, of course. Did you watch the show? No, that's the thing. I have nothing to reference. So to me, it's just another bar in Boston. Okay. All right, next up on series finale's that I love. This is going to be controversial because I think universally this one was hated. I love. I love.

love the ending to how I met your mother because it was not what was expected. The entire time that show was happening, you are ready for Ted and Robin to get together and she's the mother. The whole show is how they're going to get together. And then new people are introduced and is that the mother? No. Is that the mother? Turns out by the end, Barney, Dugie, Neil Patrick Harris and Robin end up getting married. They end up getting divorced. But Ted marries somebody else. bass player the bass player is that who it was she a bass player

the bass player at Robin and Barney's wedding okay see and then she dies she dies the mom dies of cancer I believe in the show

unless they didn't say but the mom dies the mom dies and then it's then he kind of in the end I think it's kind of alluded to he gets where wants to be with Robin again but she's not the mom

like Robin wasn't the mom and so he's explaining to the kids the whole story. I think people just wanted a bow on it with Ted and Robin. Would you say that's accurate and why people don't like it? Yeah. I loved it. Me too. I loved how it ended because it was messy like real life.

And it was happy like real life and it was sad like real life. And it is very much a friend's dynamic with all their stories going in all different directions. I thought it was an amazing ending. But yeah, people were very upset. about how that show ended. I'm putting that up there though in my top five. The Americans, one of the best shows I've ever seen. Also, one of the shows that was so good, I would still get bored during it. And that is a fine, weird line to walk because that show moved so slow at times. Now, the Americans, based on a truish story, and Carrie Russell was in the Americans,

about a couple that are spies. They're Russian spies in America. And they've had to totally acclimate themselves with America, American culture, so much so that they are one. And they are within the inside spying for Russia. They're sort of sleeper cell type people. And it's odd that you start rooting for them in this show.

Listen, I love red, wine, blue. I'm as American as they get. I got an eagle tattoo to my left butt cheek. You guys have never seen any. Probably never will. So trust me. It's there. But I was rooting for the Americans while the Russians, which is that couple.

And why I thought the finale was so interesting was I'd gone through all of it. I loved the fact that it was pretty true and it's based on real stories, which is pretty crazy because in real life, in some of these countries like Russia, they build these full American towns where they train children to have American accents, to understand American culture to know American history. So if they come over here, they're already in. They're infiltrating. But that's what they did.

They had a child. And at the end of the season, their world was starting to crumble around them. Did you guys watch Americans by Jets? Oh, my God. You guys are missing out. And they were realizing that they were spies. And there's like a real tense. seen in the garage where they're kind of caught.

And so it's them and I believe their daughter and they're on a train and they're getting out of America and they're going to get back to Russia. And at the last minute, the daughter's like, screw this, I'm staying in America. And so the daughter stays in America and the couple go to Russia and then when they get there because they haven't lived there in decades, they get there and they realize they don't even recognize this place anymore. It's not the same. it's not what they felt was really what they were fighting for.

It is completely moved on without them. And so it's this weird feeling of they just spent all their life dedicated to something that really, maybe they wouldn't have dedicated themselves too if they knew more about the current version of it. It's an amazing show. It's a little slow at times. Like I said, you will be bored at times. But it's so good. So if you haven't seen the Americans, well, now I just spoiled it.

But maybe you don't watch it now. I have three more good and I have no I have two more good and two more bad okay another good one Breaking Bad if you're watching it right now

I'm going to give you about five seconds to go ahead and cut this podcast or turn us off YouTube because I don't want to spoil Breaking Bad because a lot of people are still catching it for the first time Walter White needed to die heck the only reason

he started selling, making meth was because he was going to die because he was sick. He was a teacher. He had cancer. You're going to die. He doesn't have money. So what does he do? Since he

understands the science of it, he starts making the drug. Then all of a sudden, he is Heisenberg, and that's the character he creates to be the villain. He's the anti-hero. You're rooting for him, but he's a bad dude.

And then at the end, what's interesting is he admits, I don't really do this for my family, which is how it started, because he wanted to make sure they had money. He's like, I did this for me. And he dies. He needed to die. I think that was a good ending.

Jesse Pinkman didn't die because they made, like a movie, El Camino. Did you guys watch Breaking Bad? I won't now. You guys won't watch Breaking Bad ever? Honestly, I've never watched it, and I never knew that he died. I said spoiler alert. You could have walked out from on the computer. I'm not mad about it.

I'm just saying I've never heard that. I still want to watch it. But it makes sense, though, what you said. Yeah, he needed to die. And it sucked because you rooted for him. There's an episode of that show that's so highly rated. You talk about a boring episode. There's an episode where they're like in this lab,

this lab and there's a fly in there and they spend the whole episode trying to catch the fly. It is the more. Well, you look up the fly episode on IMDB and see what they rate that thing. it was the worst Breaking Bad episode ever but also there was so much development

because it was all just them talking to each other like I understand why it meant so much to that series how does it do 7.9 out of 10 oh that's low for that show wow what is the show rate overall because I would imagine that's a 9.7, 9.8 breaking back considered really probably one of the best American television shows

what do you got 9.5 out of 10 so imagine a 7.8 episode or whatever that was. It was a terrible episode, except it was good because there were things that developed in just the communication

between the two because they had this lab that's got to be so crystal clean and there's a fly in it and so the whole episode is I'm trying to catch the fly so it doesn't you know, I don't know,

I had germs. Yeah. Yeah. But I thought the Breaking Bad finale A plus. All right, I'm going to do one of my terrible ones, the Wonder Years.

And I had Danica McKellar and on the Bobby cast, she played Winnie Cooper. That was such a good show. I loved the finale until the very, very, very, very end. And they do the thing, too, where they communicate to you what has happened with each character. So it's like, the mom, she does this, the dad, he ended up dying, the brother. And so they do all this, and it's sad. And the whole time that you're watching the show, you're really rooting for Kevin and Winnie to be together.

I mean, it's the whole reason that you really watch the show. Yeah, was it a slice of America? in the 60s, made in the late 80s and 90s, for sure. But it was really about Kevin and Winnie. And I think Daniel Stern was the voice of Kevin, which is crazy. Daniel Stern, one of the wet bandits from home alone. The non-Joe Peshy wet bandit was Daniel Stern. And so he's waiting for her and she gets off a flight or she's waiting for him when he gets off a flight.

one of the two, and they're with their spouse. And you're like, oh, I think it was Kevin waiting for Winnie and Wendy gets off with their husband. It's one of those two, and I remember thinking, oh, that sucks. I don't like it anymore. Like it was great until like the last three minutes of it, and it ruined the whole thing. But it's kind of hypocritical because I love that how I met your mother,

but I didn't really love how the wonder years ended. So I put that as one of mine, but now that I'm thinking about it, I didn't mind it. I think it was just a child. And I just got upset they didn't end up together. All right, I'm executive decision. I'm putting that out of my great finale.

I just changed. I talked myself into it. Wonder Years going to great finale's. Okay, I have one bad one, one good one left. Would you mind looking up and see if Winnie got off the flight with her husband? That's what I felt it was. He says Winnie Cooper was waiting for Kevin. Oh, Kevin got off of his wife then.

After she returned home from a summer away. Dang. Dang. I remember Danica saying that. I knew it was one of them. I didn't like it though, but now I do. Now I like it because life is complicated. And everybody was happy.

Okay, the other one. Bad one. This is a bad one. The Friends finale was garbage. It really was garbage. I love Friends. Loved it all. It's too simple.

You put the keys on there. They got to get... Friends finale goes down to me as one of the bad finale. It's weird because I didn't hate the Seinfeld finale. I felt like the Keys was just kind of mid. It made some sense. there was a little emotion to it. But either I want it to be so friends-like

and just be absurd and funny or I want it to be just rocking my heart because I've just spent a decade with these people. I didn't feel like it rocked my heart. Now, there were heart-rocking episodes before the finale. For example, when Rachel's flying to Paris and Ross is like, don't get on the plane.

He leaves her voicemail. He's like, don't get on the plane. And then he gets, and then you're waiting. And then at the end, he's like, she didn't get all the plane. That was awesome. I knew the finale to like rock my heart a little more. And it didn't. So I put that in one of those that kind of leave me unfulfilled.

All right, final. And I saved this because I know this will be controversial. Anybody in this room watch Dexter but me? Oh, you don't watch Dexter? Oh my God. It's one of the best series I've ever seen. I watched a little bit of it. Oh, you quit.

I'm in a room of losers. I'm in a room of losers. What's happening? Dexter was such a good show and it is one of those shows where you're not supposed to root for the good guy Dexter is a show about a serial killer who's murdering people like crazy

except he's murdering bad people and so you're like, all right, I get it. Like he is basically one of those CSI dudes so he knows how to do it. And as he's out, solving crimes, he's also killing people, but bad guys. and so you're rooting for him the whole time. It's such a good show.

One of the greatest villains in television history is on that show for a whole season. John Lithgow played a villain, and it is one of the best villains of anything I've ever seen in the history of bad guys. The Dexter finale pissed people off because there really was no finale. in the end he moved off and was a lumberjack and just disappeared. It just shows him in like a gas station or airport or something and he just dressed like a lumberjack and he just walks out and you're like, wait, what? That's it.

But that's what I loved. There was no ending. He got away. He wasn't put in jail. Who knows if he comes back and kills again. They made like two other seasons out, like like spinoff or maybe not spinoff, but like reboots. I thought the dexter finale was so good. I was so unfulfilled by it

and that's what I wanted I either want to be so unful or I want to be so full I don't like the mid I think that's the conclusion I've come to with doing this I want to be like I am left just wanting

so so so much more that that's life baby or I'm completely fulfilled I don't like the mids I loved the Dexter finale I like the Game of Thrones finale and see and that is one of the

the ones that people hate the most. Okay, we got a little talker over here. All of a sudden. Yeah, finally is the one I can relate to him and have some input. No way. Awful. Never saw it coming. What did you not like about the Game of Thrones finale? Well, it's pretty well known. The last season. Yeah, it spoiled away. Right. The last season seemed like it got really lazy. The writers got lazy on it. I think it was a whole set of different players. And I just think they like said, ah, how do we end this? I don't know. I don't really know. Okay, let's kill them, kill them, kill them. and give, what was it, Bran? Yeah, Bran, the throne, and he's our heir to the throne. And it's like, him?

Out of all these characters you developed over all these seasons, that's who it's going to be? Hated it. I don't know. I like the dragon melting, the throne. Well, the dragons are always cool. Brand is the king. But, man. You didn't like that Bran was the king.

I didn't. But that's why you didn't like the finale. It shouldn't be what characters you like and what. And people say the writers got lazy. I feel like shows can miss because they tried something and it wasn't well accepted. I don't think the writers were just like, usually we do nine hour days.

Let's just do two and a half hour days for the last season. I feel like they tried some stuff that people didn't like how it went. And I think part of the unfulfillment or the disagreement of the finale was you just didn't like the brand was the king. Yeah, I didn't. He was kind of like the, no one really cared.

Like you didn't love him, you didn't hate him. He was just kind of there throughout the finale. the whole thing. And he went through a lot of adversity ups and downs. But I feel like it had to be something that you either loved or you hated. And he was just kind of mid. Eh, okay.

Yeah. I was good with Brian because he struggled, man. He didn't see. He was getting the visions, right? Yeah. And like, I don't know. I can't see. I have one bad eye.

So you relate to. I was relating to him the whole time. But to your explanation and the credit of the writer's, I guess. Game of Thrones was, I mean, it thrived off of throwing you for a loop and unexpected

and deaths and... The season one, whenever they killed the main character immediately. I was like, this show sucks. Dude, I remember going,

what? Is this to, this is it? And it wasn't even the finale of the first season. It was like just a random episode. It was like, was Stark.

Yeah. It wasn't, you're going to have to get it for me. Yep. There's so many names. You have to watch that show no phone too. So many.

the core complaint with Game of Thrones was that it felt rushed like you said but you know what I did like and I think people were upset too that Aria just sailed off but that left some open ended I like those endings that like if they want to come back with more yes

or it's very much like Tom Hanks at the end of Castaway where spoiler where there's no ending he gets back but it's like what road does he take there's like the four ways you don't know you get to kind of choose your own adventure

yeah and you get creative in your own Ned Stark, by the way. Ned Stark. Yeah. When they cut his head off, because he was the main character in the first season, and you're watching the show, and you're going,

well, obviously they're not going to kill him. I wonder what happens, though, around them not killing him. Okay, we're getting close to him. Oh, my God, they killed him. It was episode nine. I thought it was like three. It seems so early.

Nine of what, 12? One, season one. No, nine of how many? Because I don't think it was the finale of the season even. No, I don't think so either. I would guess they're. there were 11, 12, 13 episodes or so. But it's just, I guess, it feels like a different lifetime.

10. Okay, well, it wasn't the finale. Yeah. How would I guess wrong, but it still wasn't the finale. Okay. Anything come to mind of shows that you liked how it ended? Sons of Anarchy. Never watched it.

Okay. Great ending. Great ending. I just said, I like the endings that leave you kind of guessing and using your imagination. This one doesn't necessarily because he rides off and he commits suicide. by riding his motorcycle into a truck. But it doesn't show you the crash. It doesn't show the suicide.

It just kind of rides off by showing him. And he puts his arms up. And he ends this trial of his family being in this repetitive gang. And he's like, I need to end it right here. So that's how he ends it. Never watched the show. I think I would have liked it. Oh, you would have really liked it.

It's like the Sopranos. I never watched it. Same. I watched the final episode, though, live. But I never watched any of the show, but I watched the final episode. That gets good ratings, I think, doesn't it? It's really considered one of the greatest American TV shows of all time.

But the ending is also hated because, and again, I watched the ending without watching a single other episode. It was a cultural event. I just wanted to see what people were doing what they were talking about. And they're in like a diner. The whole family is. And they're all getting there. And then somebody comes in, I think, like to kill them. And right before they come in, the show just black goes black.

Really? And they may not have killed them. Who knows? Soprano could have shot him. I don't know, wasn't it, Milton Sprano, Sean Spanow? Steve Soprano. Yeah. Ronde Soprano.

I don't watch the show. I should know that, though. Tony. Tony Soprano, yeah, Tony Soprano. Wasn't Chetavion? Yes. Okay, Brandon, any show come to mind that you love the finale? Not.

You can use any of mine, too, if one just says. Well, how I met your mother, I agreed with you that I really liked it because they were so close with Aunt Robin, you know? and in a way, Aunt Robin becomes their mom later. So I thought that was pretty cool. So, yeah, it wasn't the mother. There wasn't their biological mother, but it ends up being like... Like stepmother. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

There you go. We spoiled every great show ever. For sure. But you knew that coming into this. Although we really didn't give you much time to turn it off for sons of anarchy. Sorry, guys. Yeah, it's over. We're definitely going to have a spoiler alert.

Disclamer. Yeah. Graphic. Yeah, why? I would say in the, in the body, like there's the header, and there's the body. It's like, we are going to talk about the finale of all of these shows. Every show will be spoiled. Don't listen, but none of the shows are new.

Do you guys watch the boys, by the way? I watched season one, and then I forgot about it. You couldn't do it? I liked it, but I just, there's so many shows. I just forgot about it. Brandon? I want to so bad. I think when it came out, did it come out like five years ago?

probably. We had just had a kid and it was like, I didn't have time to watch anything at the time. It ain't for everybody, but if you like superheroes or you like the absurdity of it and I love it, again, like I said, one of my favorite shows ever. Okay, that's it. What did I miss? Put in the comments. What do you disagree with? I'm sure a lot. Put in the comments. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. IR. Radio. Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts, including IHeart Pride Canada, your favorite hits and must have party bangers, plus personalized and curated playlists like back in the day pride. Come together, celebrate love.

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They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case? Yes, sir. Fair to say this was the biggest case of your career? Yes, sir. Rape the murder for a child. Just as bad as it gets.

I would think so. People wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Crevent and DePippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse. appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum. I said, I'm not guilty. I'll take it to the grief. Listen to the devil's quarry on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I want to go to Madison, who is listening in Jacksonville, North Carolina. Madison, you're on the show. Hi, everyone. What's up, Madison? I guess I need to call and say that the test Osloom scores honestly weren't that bad. My spouse got his taken, I think, a little over a year ago, and his first one was around 75, and his second one was around 50.

Well, hold on a second. What? Your spouse is a man? Yes. Okay. Amy, what was yours as a woman? Before? Yeah, whatever.

Ten. Oh, wow. What is it now? 80. Okay. So, why did he get tested? Was he feeling bad? he was yeah he was starting to feel um like his libido was going down and he was starting to feel like very

sluggish and out of energy and not as willing to do the things that he used to do so did he do testosterone shots yes are you okay yeah the dog i want to make sure you're safe from the dogs okay just making sure all right good and so he took the shots and then how did that work for him? It's been great for him. He's pretty much back to normal. His testosterone is still lower than 293, I will say that. But he is doing a lot better and it's definitely helped him a lot. So would you advise Eddie to look at some sort of supplement? Intervention. Honestly, probably still a little too high for them to.

give him a testosterone shot. They normally look at under 200, under 150. But honestly, just doing normal, like, improving your eating habits should be able to boost that because that's what boosted his a little bit for his first time when he went and got it. Okay, there you have it. Yeah, I like it. I still think you put the pellet in.

I say get the pellet. Well, let me try this first, but, I mean, that's crazy that, like, his was. that low. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but I'll roll the dice. My sister's husband got the pellet. I'm not against getting the pellet. If mine comes back low, I'll put a pellet in all the holes. But hole, front hole. Insert one in my mouth, put one of my nose hole. I'm just, I guess I'm just making sure Eddie doesn't feel shame around needing the pellet. No, no, no shame. I just want to see what I can do myself before. Okay, but you say that literally, you never do anything. That's not true. I'm going to do it. You know what? A light bulb came on last night. Oh, no. And I was thinking, I think I know

what the problem is. Okay, here we go. What? We went so hard, Bobby and I, when we were training, like squats, bench press, scub, that's called working out. Leg presses. We were like, my wife was like, you were jacked. Oh my gosh. And I think that you weren't. And you lost all this in six months. And I think since we stopped, my body was like, whoa, where is all this power lifting? Like, where's all the protein shakes you were drinking? And I think my body just reacted to all that. So maybe just need to get back to it, man. Well, there you go. If you want to get back to it, I'm happy to get back to it with you.

You want to get back to it? Okay, let me rephrase. I'm already getting back to it. But if that's what you need for someone to hold you accountable, I completely understand. I would say, as your friend, you're not known as someone who says something and follows through generally when it comes to things like this. Unless there's harm. Like, if I don't change my life. You're not going to die.

You're just going to feel tired. I don't want to feel like this forever. If you're saying to me, I want to commit to coming over, I have a gym at the house, and working out two or three times a week. Yes. If you want to commit, I'm in. I'm doing it anyway. But if you need accountability, I'm there for you.

Let's go, baby. But let's go, baby doesn't feel serious. Let's get back to the way we used to do it, man. Powerlifting. Jacked. Get jacked. We just weren't jacked either is the weird thing. Like his version of the story.

But his wife said he was. My wife said she'd never see my legs. But do you really? But that's okay. I can agree with that. They were strong. Dude, my legs were big. But we weren't jacked.

Well, compared to me the way I normally am, I was jacked. If you need accountability and you want someone to help you and work, I'm happy to do that. I'll even manipulate my workout schedule so we can do it. Let's go. And rather than being the fatal cause itself, low tea, it's associated with severe life shortening health issues. So you do need to take this serious. Yeah, I know. Well, your clock is ticking.

That's why we're going to hit the gym, baby. What's his life? his death clock at anyways. No, no, no, let's not. We don't need it. I'm glad you asked. Oh, boy. We should factor in low T now to the death clock. Like speed it up. Well, right now, Eddie has 9,067 days and 14 hours left. That's not a lot.

His death clock, March 19th, 2051. But don't think about it like that. Think of the 9,067 days. That's all you have. And that's not a lot. So make them. Collie, 251. That doesn't seem that far away. Not anymore. That's when I'm 72 because my grandparents, they all died around that. My dad died at 72. I mean, this could be actually

higher. Yeah, we may be overestim. Then the actual number. If you don't fix that T? Well, because it's the underlying risks you have going on. Don't worry, boys. We're going to hit the gym. We're going to get jacked.

And I'm going to take my shirt off when I ride on the Jeep. Get that vitamin D, baby. Madison, thank you for the call. I'm cool. Have a big day, guys. All right, bye, bye. Hey, we're going to start this talking about that documentary a little bit. So, called the Big Lonely.

We can. you kind of stretch out and talk a little longer than when we were doing the radio show. So it's about this guy named Michael Nelms. I made a lot of notes on my phone because it made me feel a lot of things and a lot of those things were sad. But I don't think the purpose of it was to make you feel sad. And I don't even think the purpose was a wilderness documentary. At first I thought it was. But it really wasn't about a wilderness documentary.

It was about isolation and how somebody deals with isolation. And so it's kind of what loneliness does to a person after a while. the choices that you make that make you lonely the dog was something that he had a relationship that kept him from being completely lonely how someone can detach from society and still not be finger quote crazy i thought that was a big part of it as well completely detached not insane couldn't be insane when he was having to uh make isolation insulation for his own self-built cabin because of what he learned while he was out there building his self-built cabin. It's like, this is crazy.

This guy has a real skill set. And so I thought it was way less into the wild, which I thought it was going to be, like the movie Into the Wild. And far more of somebody making the best decision possible based on other bad decisions that they had made. So that was the first thing. The second thing was he chose the woods over what he felt like was humiliation. and to be able to have some autonomy and choose,

I think there's a lot to that. Quality of life for him was way better out there. He felt like it would be, and that's why he chose that. And so he didn't want to live in cities or shelters. So he chose extreme isolation, and he also developed a crazy skill set. the part where he's like, hey, I live here, and I have to say that it's like a,

yeah, like a mining. Yeah, there's the mining sign. Because it was public land. And that's why I also live so far in, because nobody's really going to come in there unless it's just like wildly unlucky, somebody stumbles upon him. And how they showed that you didn't come into his cabinet

unless you got there. It was so hidden. You didn't see it until it was right there. But he just did not want to live a life of humiliation. And so then I'm thinking about pride. then I'm thinking about masculinity, independence, all these things that he's dealing with

at that point there. And then I'm also thinking because his teeth, there's no dentist. And there was one point where he was talking about his teeth where I think maybe he had to rip a tooth out at the very beginning. And pain.

Yeah. And I think that some people would rather disappear than ask for help. And I think a bit of that was his case as well. So I kind of had a relationship with that as I was watching the show. I think some people don't hit their rock bottom easily and kindly. And when they do, they want to get far away from it.

I talked about on the show how I felt watching it. It destroyed a lot of stereotypes that people have unfairly about homeless people that they're just, finger quote, crazy. And he was not. Articulate and thoughtful and reflective and independent and smart and he was still learning. He was adapting. He was making a freaking beef jerky

and hanging it on the top. Yeah, I was like, how does he know how to do everything that he knows? Making bread out of what was the, it was a wood. Making bread out of wood pieces.

And that one major collapse can really be catastrophic for some folks. And I think what we're dealing with now in our country is a medical bill can completely make something. It turned someone bankrupt to him. And so I thought his dog was very symbolic of, although he was totally isolated. I mean, it was his full companionship.

This is his best friend, his thing he relied on. The dog also gave him a bitter routine. And I think that was a big part of keeping him focused. I think that was his last real tether to humanity except for when he went into town and he would hike and then he would set up a little camp, a small camp with that, you know, that tarp. Yeah.

And so. For like six weeks. Yeah, they'd work. They'd work. Yeah, that far as odd-end jobs in town. And then freedom versus suffering, I felt like that was a big part of it as well because was he free

or was he trapped or was it a bit of both? What do you think? I felt like he found his own freedom. I felt like he would have felt trapped had he stayed because he did not want to be in the system of he couldn't get a job that he felt like would get him out of the hole. He did not want to be in shelters. He did not want to live with other homeless people.

He did not want to have to fall into the life probably of drugs. And so I think he felt trapped within that so he freed himself by going and doing his own thing. But then there was hunger and brutal winners and I don't know. That whole show, it's not a show, it's a documentary, the whole thing. I really enjoyed it, but it also made me sad and it made me think a lot. I mean, I looked him up after. There's no trace of if he's dead or alive. Everybody assumes he's dead. There was one guy who died with his name, but people don't think it was him. Probably what happened is he died in the woods.

And well, surely the... The dog died right after the documentary. Oh, he did? Yeah. Well, then, and that was his one connection to relationship. So then what? I need to know.

Well, there is nothing to know. Like, I dug hard. So you went to that link at the end of the movie. It says... It doesn't exist anymore. Oh, it doesn't? Even that site did not exist. So I'd Google crap.

Nothing really. I found like somebody who died with that name. And then I would go to these message boards of people who watched the show and they would link things. So I kind of did a three or four layer dive. And there really is no record of him. They did say his dog died right after the documentary, which sucked and broke my heart. But I would imagine he probably died in the woods like he said he was going to. And he wanted to die in the woods and let him go back into the ground. and so his nutrients could be given to earth in the ways that people before him had.

Which he did say that. There was a part where he had a pain in his stomach. Did you notice that? And he was talking and he was like, ah, and then he kind of did that. And I thought that was kind of the foreshadowing of like, oh, wow, he's starting to get sick or like something is creeping in. But it never circled back to that. So I'm wondering if that was kind of part of.

if that ended up creeping. Because I mean, you think of like eating the stuff he ate out there. Like at some point there's going to be a bad one. Or at some point the water's going to be contaminated. Something that he's just, his body's not used to. So I just figured when that pain happened, they were going to go to something, but they never did. I didn't notice the pain.

Also, I feel like he was probably eating cleaner than what we're eating. But he was also older. I know. But like I thought that had the thought too of like any plant or berry or wrong thing that he thinks might be okay. like could make him sick and he has no way to get help. But yeah. We're eating Twinkies.

That's true. What the heck is he in that? No, I know. But there is stuff in the wild that, I mean, he obviously was educated on what he should eat and shouldn't eat. But, and like how to do it all? That was my fascination was how does he know how to do all of this. Even those logs, like building his shelter, how he figured out how to, it's not like he had a team and tons of tools. He had his very simple tools and just himself and these systems he would build to like

lift those logs are heavy. Like how did he do that? I think he did it wrong for a long time. Even with the insulation and the rats he was talking about. He didn't have that and know that. It took something like that situation to make it to help him understand he needed to figure out a plan. I think even just the manual labor of it all though just was fascinating to me. Anything else? Any other thoughts? Resilience. Being at the mercy of nature is pretty crazy. That's dogs.

Where you're like, well, the winter produces no food. You know, the winter really, the animals aren't moving. The shrubs are dead. Like, there's no life during the winter. And then you start thinking like, well, bears, that's why they hibernate. That's where they eat all. And then when all the snow melts, it's like, all the food, all the animals are there. And it's like really weird that you have to store everything.

the winter because winter produces nothing. Yeah, so we'd store up and then when I got low, his storage got low. Yeah. That trek into town. No joke. Wild. Like you break an ankle. That's like the 1800s.

You just, up, he's worthless. He's got to die. It's like a horse. Horse breaks an ankle. Boom, you have to shoot him. Yeah. Like a human breaks an ankle 200 years ago. And their job was fighting.

there's no medicine. He has no medicine. There's nothing. Lunchbox? Can you explain to me? Like the bear attack, I mean, when he's talking about how he had to put like whatever on his wounds

and he thought he would have bled out if it wasn't colder. I mean, that's crazy. He did get attacked by a bear. That's a good point. You get attacked by a bear. You're out there by yourself. And he's like, and I just had to pull my knife.

And he's like, and he, healed. He didn't go to a doctor. He just said, here, I'll put some stuff on it, and hopefully I live. And he did. Like, I was so bananas. But you know, that's hunting, right? Like, at its finest, he was trying to get the bear for food. And the bear was like,

you're not going to eat me, punk. I'm going to kill you. And there was a fight, a full-on fight for survival for both of them. Is that what happened with the bear? Yeah. He was trying to kill the bear for his own food. Yeah. And the bear came up on him and boom. But if the bear came up on him See, I don't remember him

Hunting the Bear, I thought the bear just got him I thought so too, but I could be wrong. He had to pull out the knife. I feel like he was out there hunting. But he had a gun. Why would he be hunting with a knife A bear when he had a gun? Good point. Maybe I just assumed he was out there hunting. The only time I saw him with a gun was then he went to go get the elk. Yeah, but he had a gun. He did have a gun.

Right. So I'm saying if he's bear hunting and you get to choose a weapon, I don't think you leave the gun at home. But I Maybe he was doing something else. I just thought he was attacked by the bear. That's crazy. I don't know.

And he had all the nightmares by the bear too. But and just I thought it was so cool how he believed in himself and he was so self-sufficient. I mean, that is, I mean, you know, I get not wanting to live under a bridge. I totally understand that the beauty of nature and the harshness of nature. And when he's just grinding up that, the horse food, I was like, oh, this is so awful, man. He has no food. The mill to make his food last longer. Yeah.

I mean, it was crazy. I just, his perseverance is unbelievable. The will to live, that shows you the will to live is very strong. Moving Mike, what did you think about it?

I didn't see it. Oh, you never watched it? I don't have internet. Oh, that's right. Mike was basically him. So sad. That's it. Okay, see? Sounds great.

Wow. The metaphor here is you're him. Yeah, Tuesday's the day. Should get it today. Wow. Then I'll watch it. Well, next week. We expect a review.

Where was he in? Oregon. That's what I was wondering. Where is he? Yeah. Oregon. Okay. Oregon, where it wasn't full daylight or nighttime because that's more Alaska, but still,

the winters are high and brutal. Summers. I look pretty nice. And I did like how he marked the different years with the snowfall on the tree or the pole, whatever, and the one was way up there. Mike, what's your review without watching it? I feel like I'm going to, well, you mentioned. that movie into the wild. I love that movie. It's one of my favorite movies. So I feel like I'm

gonna love it. I felt like it was gonna be more of that. It wasn't. There were elements. So it's not just about him surviving. No, to me it wasn't just about him surviving. It really to me wasn't about him surviving at all. It was mostly the decisions you make and the decisions you have to make based on the decisions you made. That was to me what the movie was about. Does it make you appreciate nature more? To me it wasn't a nature. He was in nature, but it wasn't about nature to me. it was isolation it was unfair stereotypes it was all of that

but it just happened to be in nature and it showed itself through different things happening in nature but yeah there's that he did kill a bunny and eat it all that though is what not at the same level as what the crap we did the rat was crazy the rat was crazy we never ate a rat

I've never done that before we never ate a rat so yeah I liked it but I didn't like how it made me feel but it wasn't his fault that I felt that way. Right. It won awards.

I'd give it an award for being not that long. The perfectly timed award. Yeah. Yeah. Because man, sometimes people just like want to make it longer for no reason. That's true. So,

okay, there you go. You did research. Like, where does he go work? I would assume that he would go into town and find odd jobs. Now,

this is Oregon, so the odd jobs are going to be a bit different. But here you could, like, be on a roofing crew. Sure. You could find labor jobs where they're just looking for day workers, day laborers. I'm assuming all of his jobs were day labor jobs. They didn't really address that.

Yeah, I just didn't know if over time he built relationships so they knew to expect him to come back or if he was out like he showed up with a sign. He was also saying don't trust me. That's true. I forgot about that. Oh, yeah, on his back. Yeah, he was like, don't trust me. There's no reason to trust me. I'm homeless.

Like, be aware. Do you know how he got into the relationship with the filmmaker? I would imagine when he went into town. Somebody, that's how they have to learn about him. My wife Googled it and she read because she was like, I've got to know. She was like couldn't finish it without knowing. And she said that the filmmaker's brother was out hunting and stumbled across him.

Out there? I did not know there. Yeah. They didn't show. Like, because I didn't see, I was waiting to see when he got all of his, after his six weeks working. going to the store. Lunchwax mentioned him getting the stuff back, but they didn't show that.

Well, they... Or he didn't film that part. Bringing all the stuff back to camp. Right. So you'd think someone drove it up there, but there's no roads. So I don't know how you would have got it up there. Oh, I don't know if somebody drove it up, but I was real curious to see,

how's he going to do this? How's he going to do this? And then it's not shown. Well, I would also think that it was warmer and the weather wasn't as bad. So he probably is able to backpack all that stuff in in less harsh conditions. Oh, that's true.

That's, I'm completely speculating. Yeah, because I don't, like, he was like, I brought 100 pounds of flour. Yeah, how? Like, I was like, did you put it on a pulley? Like, what did we use? Yeah. And his backpack with, like, his supplies to spend the night was already heavy. But there were no roads.

Yeah. There's the trailhead and then 50 miles. And then a compass. Crazy. To point you in the right direction and hope there's no bear around any corner. He's impressive. I just. felt bad for his teeth the whole time, honestly.

I was just like, man, I had just dealt with my root canal during that. So you were him too. He really felt that. You were him too. Okay. Thank you, everybody who watched along. Leave us voicemails about your thoughts and feelings on it. We'll play them over the next few days here on the podcast on the show.

Okay, now we're going to go into our game, Celeb on the head. I have a celebrity on my head. So does Matt Stel. And Matt Stel has a bunch of songs like, Every day I do you, my table face. for you, that guy. And so, we're going to play this game and we say who's on at the end, but I'll tell you, because once I didn't do that and you guys got mad. So here we go.

Okay, with Matt Stel, we're trying to guess the celebrities on our own head. You're the guest. You get to ask the first question. Male or female? I think they got to be yes or no. Is it a male? Yes or no. Okay, go-go. Is it a male? Yes. Am I female? No. Am I an actor? Yes.

Do I play music? No. Am I under 50? No, with the fact check, but I'm going to go no. Guys? Check in. So, no. Am I a movie star?

No. Do I star in franchise films? films with sequels. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. You could possibly, but I would say that I wouldn't think you're known as being a big franchise person. Can't... No, there's another question. I had a process question.

No process. The judges hop in if they think we're up to no good if we're leading somebody a wrong way. But I'm going to go, you've probably done sequels, but you're not known as like a big franchise guy. So it's not like you're doing a bunch of Marvel movies. Okay. Am I over 50? No. Am I a comedic actor? Yes.

I'm a dude. I'm under 50. I'm not in music. I'm not a movie star. Am I a television actor? No. Am I a television actor? I'm going to go, no.

That doesn't mean you've never been on TV acting, but I'm going to go generally speaking, you're not a television actor. Gotcha. And I can guess anytime I want. When it comes to your guess, yeah. And I can get multiple guesses too. You can use your question as a guess.

When it comes back to you? I can either ask a question or give a guess. Correct. Got it. Dude, I'm under 50. Am I an athlete? Yes. Okay.

With an intentional tone. Will Ferrell? Incorrect. Did I get famous from the Internet? Yes. I got it. I never win, by the way, dude. I suck at this game.

Oh, dude, I'm bad at this already, I can tell. Let's see, I'm a TV. I'm not a TV actor. Would you guys agree with that? Like, not a TV actor traditionally. I agree, yeah. Okay. We're probably in TV.

Paul Rudd. Oh, you're just going all guesses now. Oh, I'm not, yeah. No. Do I have a famous sibling? Yes. You better get it quick. I have to guess.

Is this going to be one of two for me? I have to guess here because... If you get this one, you'll win. Am? I just don't even... Oh. Am I... Dugie Hauser.

Am I can't... Sean Patrick, Neil Patrick Harris. No. Am I Jake Paul? No. You got another shot. Oh, my gosh. Am I in his 50s?

Am I, oh, man, I don't know. A comedic actor that's on the screen, mainly, not TV, really, mainly an on-screen actor. Seth Rogen? No. Am I Logan Paul? Yes. Don't look at it. I'll give you a hint.

Logan Paul. Great WWW wrestler. Okay. If I give you hints. Movie Star, also does music. Is underrated at his music, but is awesome. Underrated at his music. A comedic actor that's underrated at his music but is awesome.

Oh, is it's, is it. I can't think of his name. Is it the, no, that's TV. That's TV. Is, does physical comedy? Also, one of his most famous movies was about music. I'm so bad at this, bro.

This is why you have me in. I'm boosting your stock. A movie about, oh, oh, Jack Black. It's Jack Black. There is. Boom. I'll take my victory, though. Logan Paul, Jack Black, there he is. Matt Steele.

Okay, so if you missed it, mine was Logan Paul. I got it right. His was Jack Black. He didn't get it right. He didn't win, but we got there and I know you heard it, but the one time I didn't say it, everybody got mad at me. So there you go. Sleb on the head. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. evil wake up i'm the one that saw the murder take place by crevette and de pippo anthony de pippo showed no signs of remorse appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum i said i'm not guilty i'll take it to the grave listen to the devil's quarry in the bone valley feed on the i heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts joy is essential and it's also elusive but now There's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby.

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We figure since everyone has a podcast, we wanted to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food.

You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments

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