The Bobby Bones Show - TUES PT2: Did Our Stock Tank?! + Bobby With Dr. Josie On Pet Advice, Aliens And The Apocalypse (Podcast)

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

Bobby asks Lunchbox to check in on our stocks after there was a historically bad day yesterday. We tried to figure out the last time we called each other after realizing we don’t talk much on the phone. Bobby then sat down with Dr. Josie from the In the Vet's Office podcast. They talked about Bobby's bulldog Stanley and his health troubles, if she could be a human doctor with her training, how she helped Bobby's dog Eller when she ate a bunch of raw dough and why Bobby thinks dolphins might be aliens.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't want to use my pass. we get one dream pass a year. I don't want to use my pass. So I'm not going to use my pass. I'm not going to sign it. I'm not going to clock it in like a clunk-tong. Do you guys ever have to use one of those when you go to work?

You got to take and put it into the old time clock? The punch card? Yeah, did you ever have that? No. Maybe when I was a hostess in 1996. I had it at Dunkin' Donuts. You would do it and it click-clut. It was awesome.

I had it a Hobby Lobby because they really wanted to know what time you got there. and so it was a stamp stamp ride on it. So I'm not going to take my dream card and put the stamp in it. And you could be like, what's a dream card? Well, on this show, you get to talk about a dream once a year because I hate hearing about dreams

because they don't mean anything. But I'm going to tell you guys, I had a dream that I took a note of that there's a possibility I will be using my dream card in the next two weeks to three months. And if I happen to use my dream card, you may all pee just a little.

Because of the dream or that you used your card? No, probably the dream, I would bet. You will be so physically moved that you will not want to stand up because there will be a little dribble. If possible, I might send you guys an email the night before saying wear denim. Or wear a pull-up or something. No, just wear denim. Because, yeah, pull-up.

That seems like it's a little too puffy. Like we'd tell. If you walked in a diaper, we'd know. But I'm going to say wear denim because it could be one of those. I would say in the next two weeks to three months, possibly. So that's the thing, but I'm getting off of it completely. Secondly, I have a list here of stuff. Lunchbox, you have your phone up, or do we need to wait 20 minutes? No, I got my phone right here, ma'am. Who do you need me to call? I don't really need you to call anybody. It's too early in the morning,

but I'm going to read this first, and then I'm going to have you pull up your app for the stocks you've invested in. Okay. bad day yesterday for the market really bad day i'm not even a market guy i know nothing about the market except i've been putting some money in like crypto and i have this app where i put like 20 bucks 30 bucks on like little stocks that i like there's another stressful day on wall street yesterday as stocks continue to take a beating the dal jones closed 890 points lower not even sure what the nasdaq is i'm going to be honest i feel like that's like the junior varsity of the dowell jones Anybody else have any thoughts on NASDAQ and how it compares?

No thoughts at all. Okay, good. Are they like leagues? Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Like, you have the majors and the minors. So I thought it was like junior varsity as well, right? But I think, you know I'm going to go to Mike on this. I'm going to do one of those things where I go, Mike, we looked this up for me.

It looks like it's just two different ones. Why do we care less about the NASDAQ, though? Is it a different group you can only get in if like you don't pass all the requirements? It's like the Okay, it doesn't matter Mike's going to look it up for us even more So contributing to yesterday's mood on Wall Street

Was a comment from the president Who declined the rule out the possibility Of an economic downturn Even a recession resulting from tariffs Now that being said, I go over I look at my app Which I do not have a deal with Robin Hood

It's just the one that I found to be easiest Lunchbox you have yours up Got it Okay what do you see Bitcoin as? Oh man. I've lost a total of $19. $23.

Investing in Bitcoin. How much did you put in to begin with? I put $320. Okay. So not terrible as opposed to what it was last night. Last night, a single Bitcoin, which I do not own, this is just, it's the price of one full Bitcoin and you can buy parts. A single Bitcoin got down to like $75,000.

Oh. It's back up to 81, but when I told Lunchbox to buy, it was at like 88 or something. And then I recommended he sell it. Now, I'm out of it for what he does. But it got down to the 70s, so I spent like 300 bucks last night of more Bitcoin when it got way low. Oh, really? Why don't you call me, man? I don't really call you.

Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. But there's Bitcoin thing. You've been my advisor on Bitcoin, so that's the one time you should have called me. I don't want to be an advisor. I just wanted to tell you when it was low. I don't know the last time I've ever called you. Yeah, I don't either.

It has to be more than five years. That's probably, I'm looking at my phone and says 2004. Are you really? Do you have a log of that? I have no idea, guys. It's been a long time. That's funny, though, because I actually believe in... I mean, yeah, because your phone is that old, so we thought maybe you had log of it.

Now, to be fair, hey, Morgan, what do you think the last time is I called you? I mean, it's been years since you've called me. Never where a third? Yeah, I don't call anybody. Every once in a while I will call Eddie But I don't even know The last time I called called Eddie If you call me it's a big deal

Like we need to talk about something It's an emergency yeah Just a call not even like three calls in a row Or knock at the door I will call Amy Semi frequently Just because Amy and I have stuff to talk about But I don't even like

The threat of Amy is And I do say threat Oh threat Yeah the threat You're calling it a threat I do I do I'll go ahead and just get ahead of it myself is that I talk too much.

Talk, talk, talk, talk. Wait, let him say it. No, no. I'm eight-miling in myself here. That a girl? Yes. Good reference. Let's go.

I talk, talk, talk, talk. Y'all taught me that. And yes, and I'll work on it. And I know I've made major improvements over the years, especially with Bobby. Like, if I sense it's like going on too long, I'm like, okay, cool. Thanks. Talk to you later. Click.

And I'm like, I don't even say why I called Amy. Like, she'll go the opposite side. completely. With Amy, it's not even that she talks too much generally, because if we're talking about something, whatever is pertinent, Amy and I have been friends for so long, I mean, 20 years, that she knows, I know how our communication styles are, but if it's like, hey, I want to talk about a banana that I found. We'll talk about the banana. It's no issue. She doesn't talk too long about the banana. But as soon as she goes, yeah, bananas are yellow. You know what else is yellow? Cowardous. You know who else was cowardice? Oh, I'll tell you about the last hundred cowards I've

met and how I feel in therapy. I've been too careful. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm gone. I'm gone. I can't get out. But she has, well, I think you've gotten better, but we don't talk on the, I don't really talk on the phone. So we really haven't had to use your new communication skills on the phone. I do think you are much better about it here. Really? Okay. You don't chase as many squirrels. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. I will receive that. That's a compliment. And say thank you. I just don't like talking on the phone. I just don't like talking on the phone. phone. My point is Bitcoin bad, and then I'll move off this. But I just

bought more. Because Bobby did it and I did it. Woo! I bought it in the 70s. But look at Navidia. Oh, I saw it, man. But that's okay. Is it in the red? Is it in the red? Ebs and flows, guys. Red what? Is it in the red? No, it's in the positive, man. What do you have overall in the video? We are plus 8%. We were at like 35%.

Can you, will you click the little thing to tell you how much money overall? Yeah, we're plus $339. Okay, cool. And how much do we put in? So we put in like $4,000. We did? $200. I'm always so shocked that we gave him that much money to hold.

That's your response every time. Oh my gosh. Same thing. Like I said, oh my gosh, for a different reason. It's been rough, man. I didn't want to wake up to this news. Yeah. So anyway, there's that.

Just wanted to put that out there. Maybe we should go NASDAQ. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe we're doing this one and the... We should go NASDAQ. We didn't even know what the NASDAQ was. We should go to the NASDAQ one. It looks like the difference is NASDAQ is technology stocks.

Okay. That's where we need to be. The Dow Jones is like 30 major U.S. companies like Coca-Cola and McDonald's. But I imagine you could be, if it's 30 major, you could still be a technology stock because Navidia, Apple, et cetera, is in. Yeah, because Microsoft is also in that. Okay. Former Olympians.

placed on the FBI's 10 most wanted list with a $10 million reward. Ryan James Wedding, a 43-year-old Canadian and former Olympic snowboarder has been added to the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives list. He's accused of leading a transactional, no, transnational drug trafficking organization responsible for distributing large quantities of cocaine and fentanyl across America. Whoa. Man, when you make that list, because you're with all the like chopos and super joppos and cartel I don't know who else

makes by terrorists you make top 10 like you're in post offices that's what they're called and been known a while guys what year did he compete recently like 22

maybe or maybe yeah no 2002 2002 yeah so still semi recently the reward supplements the FBI existing $50,000 offer. But again, there's a $10 million reward.

He competed in the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, representing Canada in the men's parallel giant slalom event. That is from CBS News. It's pretty crazy you're an Olympian, and now you're on the... Hey, he does it all at a high level. That is nuts.

If you want to raise successful kids, they say give them chores. Researchers set out to determine whether children who do chores at home are more successful at school, their study showed that kids who did chores had better academic performances and problem-solving skills than kids who weren't given regular chores. Experts recommended starting with a couple of chores every week for them to be responsible with and move to a more important daily chore.

Eventually, after a couple weeks, there's a reward payment system that should be implemented, even if small, and this is from the Australian Occupational Therapy Journal. I never got an allowance. I don't think we had the money to give an allowance. I had chores, but it wasn't so much chores for the sake of doing them. I had jobs I had to do or the house broke down. Like that was, I, one, I had to mow the yard. I didn't get paid for mown the yard.

Two, the tiny bit of plumbing that I've learned is from constantly fixing the sink in the toilet because they were always broken, broken. And by the toilet, I mean just that whatever that back part is that has the water in it. The tank. Yeah, I didn't study formally, guys. informal. So I did have chores. Obviously, took the trash out, did the dishes, etc. But, Amy, what kind of chores do your kids have? So they have some where it's like, this is just expected of you because you live here, which is the taking the trash out, cleaning the sink,

like unloading the dishwasher, loading it, and making bed, cleaning room. But then there's other stuff they can do and that's ever evolving. Like a more intense. Why you're talking like a robot? Cleaning room? Make bed, clean room. Because I've been playing that poetry for Neanderthals. Sorry. It's a fun game. So then there's other things, and this is what evolves. It depends on the task, and it will often be alongside something they want.

And depending on the dollar amount, that's what the chore is that they have to earn. Or they can add it to a birthday list or a Christmas list and be patient and wait. Oh, that's good. That's cool. Do you teach them delayed gratification? Like purposefully? Yeah, but I am also real bad of like, I'll spot you this now and then slowly you can pay me back.

Loan shark, loan shark. Then you break their toe while they're sleeping if they don't give it back? I do both. And then I know they bank on me forgetting. And I'm like, shoot, I know that they still owe me. And then, you know, they get away with it. But I think we have a combo. Wouldn't it be awesome at the bank, the bank forgot sometimes?

Yeah, but they don't. They keep a log. That's the thing. I need to keep a log, a digital log. I want to go to the bank of Amy where sometimes he just might forget. Yeah. I have a shirt on today.

My wife got me one of the greatest gifts. The shirt is from 1981. It is an Andy Kaufman on the front who's really one of my favorite historical figures ever because of how he did comedy, not a stand-up comedian, a performance artist, but Andy Kaufman, he used to wrestle women.

And so he would be like, I'll beat any woman. in wrestling and he would just have women and he'd wrestle him and beat them all small women too and so the shirt on the front is him the women's wrestling champion of the world this is andy and on the back there's some my wife found this on like a vintage site it's from 1981 it's really one of my favorite cooler gifts pretty proud of it this morning first time i've worn it even and i even sent it to be cleaned at the cleaners before i wore it the first time and smart i don't do this vintage well i know i just love it i don't want it to be messed up

Oh, like you don't want to put it in your own washing machine? Well, first of all, let's be honest, I don't wash clothes. My wife does the laundry. She's pretty good at it, meaning my stuff doesn't get shrunk a whole lot. However, if I do wash clothes, stuff gets shrunk a whole lot, which is why when I say I don't wash clothes, I hate washing clothes and I prefer not to wash clothes, but my wife also will block me from washing clothes. And if I'm like, hey, I'm going to wash this, she's like, why don't you wait a minute?

And she also has two bins, two hamper's, one for things that if it's a lot of, like a suit or something. Like I have to wear a suit today because as soon as we're done here, I'm flying to DC. I'm going to speak to Goldman Sachs today. Speaking of money. Well, you better learn the difference between New York Stock Exchange and NASDAQ, hurry, quick. He has time. Okay. Study it on the plane. No, I just learned from lunchbox and Mike. Oh. Yeah, we told him. Yeah. Goldman's Dow Jones. Yeah, I'll say that. How's hey? What's up there, buddy? Don't look at the Dow Jones today. Or the DJ? Like, do, act like, do short-hand. No, I can't do that. I can't do that.

They'll think I'm a loser. But I've never spoken to a, I've done a lot of either charity groups or I've done privates. I've even done privates where, like I went to Vegas and I did a private for 10,000 people. So I did speaking and stand up. Doesn't seem very private. I'm not, sorry, private wouldn't mean you can't buy tickets. Okay. You knew that.

Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know. I thought maybe, I'm glad you said that though because it makes sense because I'm talking in language that is used internally. So I'm glad you said that anyway. But I've never done something like where I'm going to D.C. and speaking to Goldman Sachs, which is pretty crazy because they want my advice,

I want to invest in. They heard how I was helping lunchbox and they're like, we want in. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. Really? Did they ask about my? They did, yeah. We're using an example of what not to do.

Oh. You're the before. We're doing it before and after. Man, that's pretty cool. I mean, you can finish some. laundry thing, but we need to circle back with, like, what you are going to talk about. Like, for real. I don't want to say until I'm done.

Okay, but what's the thing? Like, what really are you going to, like, what really are you, but motivation, life experience, like handling adversity? All that sort of, but I have made a couple accidental investments. Oh. That, that I only made them because I grew up very poor, but I've learned from, I've kind of learned from that experience on what and how to do a couple things and they want me to speak on that.

So I accidentally have a skill set that I'm speaking on and I'd be happy to let you guys know tomorrow or something. So you really are talking about investing. Yes, but again, not because I'm smart. I mean, you are. Because I backed it. It's in different ways. I get it.

If I told you, I don't think it's a, I don't want to say too much. I can tell you tomorrow. Okay. And you would know this more than anybody, Amy, if I told you what I've done and how I've backed into this. But I've done something because I've been so fearful

and I'm so scared of money that I invested in a certain way. Didn't even know how to invest. I basically read a book called Rich Dad Poor Dad, and then finally got a couple people that I trusted. And so I was like, I don't know what to do with money. What if I just, uh-huh? And it worked.

So I did it again. And I've almost made as much money doing this as I have my career. Why don't you give us this talk? Yeah, give us the book. I'll read that book. What is that? We want to, uh, during commercials, like,

you've never given this speech to us. I know, because I'm scared it may not. It's weird, man. I'm scared it may not work. I don't even believe in it. But I don't even know that it's like a long term. But you're going to tell like real professionals.

It's not that I'm telling them to do it. I'm explaining why I did it and what happened. Gotcha. Gotcha. So I'm going to do that. Coming up in a second, I had Dr. Josie, who is our vet. Stanley's been really, really sick, so she's been here every week. She was over here yesterday, and I was trying, and I was like, hey, let's do a podcast.

She has a podcast called In the Vets Office with Dr. Josie, and I was trying to explain to her why dolphins are aliens, and I think she thought I was a little crazy. But you're going to hear that coming up, and then she really gives some great advice on animals. And if you're going to get a pet or how to take care of your pet or pet insurance. So that's going to come up inside of this as well. I want to say one other thing about the podcast here. Over the past 15 years or so, this podcast has been basically my digital child. We were podcasting.

I mean, really before podcasting was the thing. We've been podcasting for roughly 20 years now. Everything from podcasting and while we're doing it writing, I would have somebody sit in the room and write notes to everything we talked about. so we could load it up so people could listen to the podcast. And I'm fortunate, like in the book Outliers, like I was just podcasting 20 years ago. And so I thought, well, just podcast.

And people would be like, well, you're so ahead of the curve. Or why are you wasting your time podcasting? That's never going to be a thing. So now everybody podcasts. I love podcasts. I listen to podcasts more than I do anything else. And so I take great pride in being able to provide content on this podcast. So allow me to be in the weeds for just a second.

So we do the show. And now what we're doing is we do one full. We just put the whole radio show up for now. We've tried different things. We put up an early bird. And then we put up the whole rest of the show. And people would complain. This is what I've learned now after this last iteration is people are complaining about

every single thing. I already knew that was the case. But I'm trying to find what I think is easiest to consume. People are complaining about how we're doing it now. But a quick explanation. We're taking the whole radio show. at least for a while. And we're loading the whole radio show up as one podcast.

So from we go on, boom, 5 a.m. until it's over. You're going to hear it. Now sometimes we double up bits two and three hours away because our company's like, hey, the attention span of the average listener is 22 minutes. So if you have something really good, put it on a 5 and put it on to 7.30, something that I was very much against all of my career because it felt lazy to me. Because I was like, I don't want to double up. a bit because I want to do more content because I don't I don't want people to feel like I'm not

doing work. I don't want to feel like I'm not doing work. Again, I hold myself to an incredibly high standard. But then it was, you know, I think this is better for the show. If people are listening live and they didn't get to hear a segment that we thought was awesome way early, why not let them hear that same segment again. So, right, dealing with this. And so now we're trying this way. So segment one, for the most part, is going to be the full radio show. The second part two is going to be the podcast. I think eventually in the history of the show, it is really moved to a point where the podcast, aside from the radio show, has become instrumental in the success of our digital numbers. But I think in the future,

looking ahead, I think at some point we might just be a podcast. I don't know. I hope that's not the case, although I do hate waking up in the morning. I don't see that happening anytime in the near future, but you just never know, right? So there's so much stuff we want to talk about on the main show that either, A, we don't get to because it doesn't even become something we can talk about until later in the show, because like it's an idea. I have it 848. Or it's something I think we need more than five or six minutes to talk about. And because we have to run on it, what they call a clock during the radio show because we have to get to commercials. We play a few songs, not many. There's a clock. I can't go on for 15 minutes. So we use the podcast for some of that.

It doesn't mean the content used to be like post show stuff we didn't get to. It is not that anymore. It is now stuff that I think we need to sit down and stretch your legs out and spend some real time talking about it. Or it could be bits that I'm like, I wonder if this is even any good. And if not, we can just pivot off of it. Now, we used to do a show back in Austin where we only, we just turned, there was no music. We just turned the mics on

and went for five hours and we talked the whole time. Because we're a syndicated show now, and we're in all these markets, and we're in new markets all the time. That is not good for us, especially ratings because we go in these new cities and people don't want to hear people talk forever,

that they don't know. And I think we all understand that. So it has been a bit of a transition. The other thing has been the podcast feed, which again, I get really irritated, when like random things show up in the feed because again i've tried to keep this thing as pristine and as easy as possible to navigate that being said i don't know on the feed and so some of my frustrations are when things pop up in that feed that i have no idea what they are uh a couple of things

like i've never put the bobby cast really in the feed and last week it went up in the feed on friday night and i can tell you why in a second but like that bobbycast is a podcast that i've been doing with Mike for how many years. Started in 2016, so... Almost 10 years. Yeah, almost 10. If I were going to just take my stuff and throw it in a feed, I'd be putting that in there because that thing does really well.

But I sure would love the extra hits on the Bobby Boneshow feed. I've never done that, though, because I don't want to do it. Now, you can say, well, what about 25 whistles? It's in the feed. That would have never been in the feed, had draft kings, not said, hey, we want to sponsor you to do a sport. show. I wasn't doing sports at the time. I really never thought I'd get back into sports. Love it, but I never thought I would. But Draft Kings was like, we want to do this. We will pay your

company X amount of dollars to put it in the Bobby Bone Show feed and we'll pay you. Now, the reason they didn't say we'll just pay you to do it from scratch is because any podcast launching from scratch is just not going to have a lot of listeners. It's going to take six months, nine months a year. So why would they pay a bunch of money and start brand new so it started in the feed? Well, now if we take it out of the feed, we regress, and everybody makes less money, including the company, including Drive Kings. So 25 whistles is in the feed. Wasn't my choice. I would not have put it in the feed initially, but now we can't take it out because everybody loses money. Streams will go down. The NFL podcast that I do, I don't own that. So where I do have ownership and other of my

podcast or podcast network, I don't own the NFL feed. But what the NFL and the NFL and company did as they traded, hey, we'll do feed drops here if you do feed drops there because NFL owns it and the company owns it. This is the one that I do not own. I actually have literal bosses on this that say occasionally, hey, what if you do this instead, which means do this instead. So that's in the feed because of the same reason. And now if it gets pulled from the feed, numbers go down and then sponsorships go, wait, why do we have less numbers? So It's not my perfect world that those sports shows are in the feed. I get it.

I'm okay with it. I mean, listen, it is my show. Like, this show is my show. Those are my shows. But I wouldn't have done that from the beginning because I'm so precious about the feed. A couple weeks ago, a podcast started popping up from the Bivone show or the Nashville podcast network,

which I own. That was not me who put him there. I would not have put him there. As a matter of fact, at one point, I was like, hey, scuba, why are these in there? And he was like, I don't know, we'll figure it out. And I also understand because the company owns these and they want to generate revenue. So where they would just stick them all week in random spots, I said, hey, can we do this?

Can we put them on the weekends? Because shows aren't happening on the weekends. So we do the shows on Friday night. I think they put a Bobbycast this week. And then like movie Mike popped up on Saturday. Lunchbox, Soor losers and Ray popped up on Saturday. Amy's four things on Sunday. So that way it's cleaner.

And if you want to hear those shows, they are right there. Maybe people who aren't exposed to them on the box. Bobby Bones show feed gets them right there. The only ones that I really have problems with are the ones that have nothing to do with us and we're addressing that now. And they can just tell me Bobby shut up, honestly, because I don't own the feed.

And so, and I love Granger. Granger's great. I mean, I would say Granger's a friend, but his podcast is popping up on our feed and people are like, what's going on? I don't know. I don't know why it's popping up in the feed. And so that's weird to me

because he's not part of our world, but he is part of the company's world. The company's like, we were putting it in there. I got to go like, yes, sir, going to have another, basically. Trying to work it out. But I did go to our bosses and go, hey, cool. I'd prefer it not to be in our feed, not because I don't love Granger. And when my contractor's coming up, and I don't know if this is the company playing, or I'm just getting neurotic.

The company's like, you know, if you don't resign, you know, we can go to Granger. And I don't know if it's them playing like a head game as well. I don't think it is because I love Granger too much. This is nothing against him. But I went to somebody in the company. I said, hey, you want to put Granger in the feet fine. Then you need to put our show somewhere else big. So if we're going to, if we're going to do this, okay, play Granger.

Granger, that's a great job. And Granger has gone from being a platinum artist to a guy that loves the Lord and that's what he talks about. And I'm all for it. We're about to launch a podcast about that ourselves. but I'm like, hey, put us in Elvis Duran's podcast feed then. And so I just want everybody to know. I also, because I spent so much time trying to keep it as easy to navigate as possible,

it bothers me, but not so much that I don't understand it because I do because I don't own it. I work for a company, a company that's been great to me. And if the company says, you got to do this, yes, sir, can I have another? But I just want everybody to know, like, because I get so many messages and DMs about this, that's as fully transparent as I could possibly be. And I think now how we have it with the other podcast being on the weekends, I think that works pretty well. And if they want to keep Granger in the podcast, all good. Love Granger. But let's put our show then in other people's podcasts and annoy them. That's what I say. And we could use the extra streams. Our podcast is

a monster, but monsters have to eat too. The monster wants to grow here. But that's all. I love our company. I completely support and understand what they want to do. If they continue to do it, nothing I can do. Not going to fight it, but I just want to explain it because I'm just getting kicked in the nuts over it every time I get in my DMs. So Mike, I feel like that's fully out. That's transparent as possible.

That's very transparent. Probably more than I should have been. So now I'll get to Dr. Josie, who I think this is so interesting, but thank you guys. A win is a win. A win. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,

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It's me and Dr. Josie, and this is on the Bobby Bowen Show podcast. So I had to learn how to reset everything up. I haven't had to turn on all the equipment, run audio. I haven't had to do this myself in years. So if this makes it to anyone's ears, thank you so much. I do want to start with, I hurt my ankle playing pickleball, and you just asked if I needed a x-rayed.

Can you actually humans? I can. If you're out there listening, licensing board, please don't come for me. But yes, I can. But like in like a dire situation. Of course. God. It reminds me of walking dead whenever the,

vet has to work on the humans. I would imagine if that happened and zombies happen in the world was, or not even zombies, let's say we were in some sort of getting attacked by Russia or China and people were dying and we're all having to fight for ourselves. You probably would have to be a human doctor real quick. Yeah, honestly, you want a veterinarian on your team more so than a human doctor because nowadays human doctors are so specialized. You've got your people that only deal with GI tracks or you've got your doctors that only work on hearts. Like, as a vegetarian, we do it all. That's a good point.

So on our show, we often talk about who would be the most valuable if the world ended. And like, I'm kind of ready. Yeah, I could see that. Minus your bum ankle. Yeah. And if this were caveman days or zombie days, my bum ankle, I'd probably be dead. Because that's all it takes in your dead. Or if it's a 1700s.

You out. Bad ankle, might be on do. Might as well kill him because he's no. used to us anymore. Do you have an x-ray machine at your house? I don't have one at my house. I did just start. For animals? For animals. I did just start a concierge business where I go to people's homes and take care of their animals, but I don't have an x-ray machine at my house. They're like hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I have a practice that I can call. And if I need to take an x-ray, they'll let me come by and bring the patient with me. How has that been

from having, because you had a couple of, what do you call them, not offices, but you had a couple of business clinics. How has that been? Because I know that now you are concierge and you sold your clinics. I sold my clinics. Dang it's cool. I woke up one day and I was managing 30 people and I said, you know, I don't really want to do this anymore. I think I just want to take care of animals. Instead of taking care of people? Instead of managing people, which is very challenging and I didn't go to school to do that. So I learned a lot and I loved every second of it. My team was amazing. but yeah, sold the practices. And now I get to drive around every day with my best friend,

who's also a vet nurse, and we go to people's homes and take care of their pets in the home, which is awesome because the pets are so, I mean, you know, well, Stanley now knows he's on to me. He knows why I'm here. But the dogs are just, and cats are just so much more chill in their own house. Oh, that's a good point. I think about that because they're in a foreign environment.

If they're inside of a house or a business they're not used to, they're probably pee all the time when they're somewhere they're not supposed to. There's. I do. I'm not used to up pee. I know, you need to stop doing it. Okay, so I'm going to have a vet question or eight coming up. I do want to talk about why I think dolphins might be aliens.

I don't know if you've ever heard this theory. I have not. Okay. I'm going to do that in a second. Okay. But first, oh, by the way, Josie has a great podcast. You guys subscribe to it if you don't mind. Just, heck, listen to it first.

You had a really good episode with Morgan. Mm-hmm. Kulesman, Webroll Morgan. Morgan number two. Yeah. But you guys check out Dr. Josie. in the vet's office with Dr. Josie. It's really great, especially about animals,

but also she has a lot of great guests. Justin was a really good guest. Justin Anderson? Yeah. We are season three is getting ready to launch in about three weeks, and we've got some awesome guest lines up. Yeah, you guys check out in the vet's office with Dr. Josie.

So we've had some issues with Stanley. So Stanley's my bulldog. Stanley is, I don't even know how old he is, like 100 now, but really is like five. He's five. Yeah, he's five, yeah. I love Stanley more than anything in the whole world, but I will tell people don't get a bulldog

and people get upset of me for saying that. They're like, why would you tell people not to get a bulldog whenever you have a bulldog and you love them so much? Don't get a bulldog for a couple of reasons. And this is me talking, not you, because I'd like for you to tell me if it's how you feel about my direction here.

Number one, everything's wrong with them. As soon as you get them, everything's wrong with them because they have been inbred for generations to look a certain way. Yes. And so when they are in Brett, their health is terrible because of that. It's the same.

It's like the tree doesn't have branch. It's just a straight trunk. Yeah. So when I got him, he was all. I think I got a broken, broken dog because those dogs, and I tell you, my friend Andy Roddick, the tennis player, had a couple of bulldogs. And he's been rich for a long time. And even he said to me when I said, hey, I'm getting the, I'm getting,

this bulldog. I'm taking it from a friend. He was like, oh, I don't do that. He said, there it costs a ton. I was like, well, I'm not having to really pay much for it except to get it here because it's sick. He was like, you're going to take it from me. You're going to pay so much. You're going to go, oh my God, why did I do this? And he loves his bulldogs. And he said, don't get a bulldog. And I did it anyway. And again, I will say, I love that dog. I would cut off a finger. If it's like he's going to die tomorrow or I cut off a finger, I will take a hatchet and chop off my pinky.

I'm not kidding. I for sure would. Like, that's my dude. So I'm not talking about him specifically. I know. But I got him and he was sick when I got him. I have a friend whose mom

she doesn't so much breed them. She raises them. And so it's not like a breeder where she constantly pumps him out, but she had like six. And she kept two, gave a couple to friends. but one was like sick and had a messed up eye.

Poor Stanley. And my friend was like, if you'll take, if you'll just pay for him to fly, like for her to fly him over, you can have them. That was the cheapest part of. Oh,

it was a cheap by far. It was a cheap. And I was like, I'm in and Dusty, my dog for 12 years had died and I was never going to get another dog. Never. When we had to put him down,

it was worst, I still hear Jack Johnson, which, you know, the friend's song and I still get sad about that. Because that's the song I listen to with him all the time. I listened to it when we had to put him down. And I was like, I'm never getting another dog.

I'm not going through that again. There's nothing worse. There's nothing worse. And so I had to put him down by myself with the doctor. It sucked. And by the way, whenever I had to take his ashes, I went back to Texas and I dumped his ashes in every yard we ever lived in together. And we into people's houses that we're living there now.

So I was like. Who's this crazy person? Exactly. No, yeah, I was like going over the backyard fence. No. I know. And my first book, now maybe my second book, because he was sick. My second book, I dedicated to him and I was like, this is to Stanley. I know you'll never read this, mostly because you're a dog and you can't read. But like, not Stanley, but Dusty.

So I was never getting another dog. My friend was like, you take one of the bulldogs that's sick. I was like, you know what? Fine. Maybe I can love something. and immediately money money money money money money two knee surgeries later eyeball surgery he's had double digit at least at least 10 surgeries so that's that's the number one reason is that they are sick when they're not sick yeah even just their confirmation

just makes them i don't know what that means like just the way that they're built oh is that what it's called confirmation yeah they're tiny little airways i went to when i just did a dental on him six months ago and i went to intubate him which is when you put their breathing tube in under anesthesia. A dog, his size, normally I would use, we'll just say like a eight or nine size breathing tube. For him, I had to use like a five. Like, go

down so small because his airway is so narrow. We had the surgery though, too, on him. I know you did. But, I mean, I think he breathes better than if you didn't have the surgery, but. That's what's crazy. We had the surgery on his tongue or whatever or whatever they do. And so

number one is the fact that they are sick and you just have to pump money into it. not kidding, and this is not a flex, I bet you that I'm this, even before my wife, I bet you I've put $80,000, $90,000 into him. Yeah, I bet you're right. Yeah, just surgeries. $10,000 here, $10,000. Yeah. And I would do it again. But luckily, at this point of my life, I have the money to do that. If this would have been 20 years ago when I was broke, no chance. No. So that's number one. Number two, they don't live very long. And I'm already sad that he's going to die soon, and he's five. I get sad all the time thinking about he's going to, he's going

die soon. It's called anticipatory grief. It sucks. It sucks. You know, I have more owners say to me, I was more sad when my dog died than when my own mom or my own grandma died because they get into bed like they're with us every single day. Sleeping with us. Like, it's such an intimate relationship. So what's wrong with Stanley? Because you have been here, not that you're not here anyway, because we are at, we're real life friends. Yes. Not even just real life buddies. Like we're real life friends. Yes. But you have been here a lot. What's wrong with Stanley? Stanley has always not had the best stomach,

but lately he was having a lot more diarrhea, as you know. Actually, this is very funny. Caitlin sent me a picture, and Stanley will sit up next to the wall and his little butthole will be pressed up against the wall. And he was having diarrhea, so he was inking little butthole stains all over your walls. Prince.

Yeah. Yeah, whenever, uh, whatever, what's the artist in Europe that does all the... Like Banksy? But yeah, when Banksy does it, thank you. When Banksy does it, it's art. When Stanley does it. Ah, he's ruining the wall.

He is printing his butthole all over your wall. I know. So, but this was like happening for a month and a half. We were trying everything. Yes. So what ended up happening? Like, what are you doing with him every week now? So we ended up running some blood work.

He had really low protein levels. And coming to find out, he's losing protein through his GI tract because he has inflammatory bowel disease, IBD. Did we do that? You did not do that. No, that is probably there's some genetic component to it because he's a bulldog. And it can just happen, just like humans. My sister has IBD and I don't, you know, just that.

I have IBS. Is that worse than IBD? It's very similar. I think you may have it for me. Yeah. We both have it. I also go out in the yard and I have Caitlin watch me poop. Just to see.

Are you doing butthole prints on the wall? I was telling Caitlin, I was like, I did that trying to get her not to be mad at. Stanley? Stanley. I think that was me. And Eller is a metal, like a machine. Oh. Like metal, the Trojan horse.

Guts of steel. Just everything about her. But again, she's like seven different kinds of dogs, one that we just adopted off a street who was an inbred. The mutts. Actually, what was it? A month ago, you called me or Caitlin called me at like 9 o'clock at night and you're like, Eller just ate a whole raw loaf. Oh, my God.

I forgot about this. Of sourdough bread. And most people would be like, oh, whatever, it's bread. It's not a big deal. But I actually was like, this could be a huge problem because sourdough bread that's not cooked will go into their stomachs. And then that, like, heat and acidity of the stomach cooks it. The bread raises.

It then releases ethanol. Oh, it cooks it. That's why. Because it's hot in there. Yes. The bread will expand. And then not only that, but the yeast turns to ethanol, which is alcohol, which absorbs into their bloodstream and they get drunk.

like life-threatening junk. So yeah, we had to make her throw up. That was rough. That was rough. Well, so we called, and I forgot about that. That was a crazy night. So we called to you and you were like, do this, do this.

And if this does this, I'll be right over. And then you said, call whatever that number was, we called as well. And so we called whatever that number was. The $1,800 make us pay you on a credit card. It's like dog poison and troll, I guess. It is. It's a bunch of talks.

For animals. Yeah. Your dog ever eat something and you don't know, you should call ASPCA, the toxin, poison control hotline. So we call and they're like, all right, we'd like to help you? That'd be $90 pay up front. Yeah. And we're like, dang, do we? But we were so worried because Kailen had made this sourdough loaf that she likes to make bread.

And she had put it on a part of the counter that Eller couldn't have gotten to. But Eller got, went chair? She's a ninja. Yeah. She went chair to the top of the counter, pulled it all the way down, didn't move the plate. So that's how we didn't know that she had it. We didn't know. It was just gone.

She like parkored off the wall. Because Caitlin had to make two and the other one wasn't even touched. It wasn't even moved. The plate hadn't moved. And so we called. They were like, that's really bad. It was exactly what you said. And they said, do the...

Give her hydrogen peroxide. And that's what we did. And then walk the crap out of her. Yes. So that's, I just walk, walk, walk, walk, hydrant break. And she was like, look, finally, because we weren't for sure she ate it. Because it was just gone. We weren't for sure.

And finally, when she threw up, because I walked with her for 30 minutes straight. We didn't think she was going to throw up. So I'm like, all right, I'll come over. And then the second. Yeah, you were going to induce a vomiting. The second I pull into your driveway, she throws up. And it was a loaf of bread. It was so gross.

It was so gross. Yeah, so is that any bread or just sourdough that's? mainly sour dough but really any kind of raw anything with raw dough with yeast in it can cause that issue dang so bulldogs yeah back to stanley he has ibd yeah and he's been real and you've been having to take his blood every week yeah i've checked his blood i have to give him a cabalamine injection every week for six weeks so i just i should have a key to the house at this point he doesn't back away from any guest when they come to the house he has started to think twice when you're you come over. It makes me so sad. It's the first time ever he doesn't just blindly love

whomever's at the door. He will run at you and go up. Hold on a minute. He comes to the door. And then he sees me and he's like, oh no. He stops. Where Eller doesn't, she's all about it. She pees a little. Loves it. The whole thing. But Stanley isn't. But when you gave him a shot to it, it didn't hurt him at all. No, he doesn't flinch. He's like, he's just, he's smart. I agree. He's just stubborn. He's a stubborn boy. But very smart. Like, he listens. To commands and does things? Yeah. Like to...

Caitlin is Eller's alpha. Eller doesn't listen to me at all. Eller comes to me because I will love on her and I don't boss her around very much. Caitlin is Eller's alpha. I am Stanley's Alpha. And he listens to everything I say nothing to Caitlin. He has selective hearing.

Oh my God. Yeah. Very selective. It's a thing. And so when someone says to you, hey, I'm thinking about getting a bulldog, what do you say? I say you should have a very large savings account.

And I wouldn't, I don't really recommend it. I mean, gosh, I hate all those people out there with bulldogs. They're such lovely dogs. I agree. Love, love mine. But they just have a lot of issues. Very expensive. Very.

Like just naturally. It's not even, you have to get a bad one. No. If you have a normal one, it's going to cost you a lot of money. Yeah, no matter what. Even the most well, I mean, and Stanley is beautiful. And his confirmation is amazing. Like, his body is gorgeous, but he is, he's just a, they cost a lot of money.

What's happening now? Is he almost better? We're, he's going to have IBD forever. So he'll probably be on medications for the rest of his life. But we're just kind of getting him out of the weeds right now. But we've just rechecked his blood work today. I'll text you tomorrow. We'll go from there. But he's definitely getting better.

Average lifespan of a bulldog? Eight, nine. Yeah. That sucks. It sucks. I had a great day and the same thing. Like she died at six, seven years old. just not long enough. Really? It's like massive, well, massive anything, except animals,

like elephants live forever, but like massive humans die quicker. Yeah. Yeah. That sucks. Okay, let me talk about dolphins for a second. Okay. You ever do a dolphin? Like, I have never done medicine on a dolphin. I took one class in vet school about fish or aquatic animals. Otherwise I, do people bring in fish? We will anesthetize fish. I don't know what that means. Like put them under anesthesia. You sprinkle a little something into the water. I can't remember what it's called. And then the fish swims up to the top, belly up and is... It looks dead. Looks dead. And people will do full-blown surgeries on the fish while they're in the water. Yes. You don't. I do not. I only do fluffy things, dogs, cats, the horse here and there. But I do know vets that do that. So will they do those on

like really expensive fish? Is that how and why a fish would be done? I think like they'll do it on Like if you have a goldfish you love, they'll do it. I was reading a story yesterday about goldfish that when released into streams, lakes, ponds, rivers, how they're growing into 10, 15, 20 pounds because they... Huge. Yeah, because they stayed the shape of whatever they're in

and people are putting gold... And they're monster, they ended up being monster fish. Monster goldfish. The guys, hands were like three feet apart and he was holding the fish and it was gold. And I would have thought it was some oddly colored, like large mouth. But no, no, it's a freaking goldfish

that someone put let out. And goldfish are savage. They will eat, like, if you have a goldfish and you put other little fish in the tank, the other fish are goners. The goldfish will eat them. No way. You ever feel bad that goldfish

is sitting a bowl with nothing to do? There's like no playground equipment. There's, like they just flip around. You know, I haven't really given it that much thought till right now. It makes me sad. Like, they don't even know what's going on. Maybe we should start a goldfish.

They do nothing. Like, save the goldfish. Playgrounds for goldfish. Like a goldfish bowl makes me feel so sad. It is sad. They need some enrichment. There's nothing. It's terrible.

We used to have sucker fish. Okay. Do you know what sucker fish? Yeah, I do. Where they would suck on the side, but they would clean all of, they would clean the tank. At least they had a job. Yes. Like they went to work.

They had their lunch pill. They found their fulfillment. Yes. Okay. Dauphins. So you never worked on a dolphin. I have not. Dauphins not a fish, though.

It's not. A mammal. That's correct. Dolphins might be aliens. I can't wait to hear this. So dolphins have highly advanced brains with their brain to body ratio, meaning size,

second to only humans and barely. So we're talking size of body to brain, same as ours, almost exactly the same size. Because you think about the size of our brain. It's not near the size of everything else combined, but it's pretty massive when compared to any other animal's brain

compared to them. So highly developed brains, brain to body ratio very close to humans. They have extreme self-awareness, meaning put them in front of a mirror. They know it's a mirror. How do you know this? Well, I don't. I read doctors that have written this. I need to look this up.

Yeah. Well, I spent a lot, it's a whole, it's a whole hole I went down. So they passed a mirror test. Okay. There are times where I'm walking in front of a mirror where I don't think it's a mirror. I think it's another part of the store. You ever do that? Absolutely.

I'm like, dang, this two store goes forever. It's huge. Yeah, and it's like there's a mirror right in front of me. Yes. So I don't even pass the mirror test all the time. They have problem solving skills, emotions, even cultural learning, more advanced than primates. Hmm. I mean, they are so smart.

You see them. And the reason we don't see them more is because literally they're in the water. Mm-hmm. And we don't see in the water. Some believe, and this is where it starts, their intelligence could rise. that of an advanced extraterrestrial species. Now it goes on. Their communication is mysterious.

Dolphins use a complex system of clicks, whistles, and body movements that scientists, even after studying for decades, do not fully understand. Like Morse code. Dolphins can understand what we're doing. We still cannot understand what they're doing. Tell me that ain't crazy. That is crazy. Next. Some researchers believe their form of communication could be as or more complex than

the human language, potentially even carrying information. in ways that we don't comprehend. They talk about if there are advanced civilizations, how they will not speak but they can feel through each other, a bit of telekinesis even, that dolphins seemingly around other dolphins have that even without the clicks or whistles.

Haven't dolphins been used in war as well? Yes, yes. So in the 1960s, NASA had funded, and this guy was named John C. Lilly, they funded him, Dolphins English because we think they can freaking learn to understand English. They even speculated in written works that they might have extraterrestrial origins. So that's where it came from.

Unlike most mammals, again, these are mammals. Whales and dolphins, both mammals that live in the water, which is both weird because really mammals don't live in the water. Dolphins evolved to thrive in the ocean. Some theorists suggest dolphins did not originate on Earth, but they were placed here. their sonar abilities, which is called echolocation, are more advanced than any technology that humans have developed. Their echolocation does things that we cannot do

even through radio or long distance form. Like, of all the technology that we've developed, we cannot do it as well as they do naturally. Some, and this is when I got into the UFO enthusiast, so this goes a little nutty. They claim, and I've read this too, aliens, we'll call them aliens, that they don't come from deep space, they come from below. Because we only know like 5% of the Earth's surface. That's all we've mapped, under the Earth,

the ocean surface. Yeah, there's a ton of it that we don't know. 95%. We have no idea what's down there. We've never been to the bottom of it. We don't know what's in over 90% of it at all. And that dolphins come from the deep ocean and that since aliens, I hate the word aliens, but they've been hiding underwater and it aligns with the dolphins behavior. and their communication skills. Now, when you go back to more science reality, do I believe dolphins or aliens? No.

But I do believe dolphins are so crazy intelligent. Scientifically, dolphins evolve from land-dwelling mammals millions a years ago. Their intelligence is earth-based, shaped by survival needs. The alien idea is a very fun idea, yes, but we as humans do not have some of the abilities that they have

as what we're just like dumb water animals, some people feel. So we fully don't understand and how they communicate, which is crazy. We're supposed to be smarter than them. And they're getting the last laugh. How? Because they're smarter than us.

Yes. Did you see the video of the angler fish? I don't know what that is. Oh, I have to send you this. You see the video of the whale that ate the dude in the boat? Yes. When he was kayaking. That's freaking crazy.

And then spit him out. That's freaking crazy. Can you imagine that? Yeah, I got him in there and was like, I don't like this. This is gross. And I was reading more about it. And so that kind of often needs a lot of krill. Mm-hmm.

breaking news to that dolphin, that was not krill. So... It's a big, big piece of krill. It is, and again, they have to speculate because you can't interview a whale. Yeah. That once the guy in the boat went down,

the well was like, this is not krill, so I'm going to go ahead and spit it back out. But the dude's lucky he wasn't chomped and killed. He's lucky to be alive. Even to be let go, but he's lucky he wasn't chomped. Yes, those jaws are huge. A win is a win. A win.

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I see. Except I don't call them aliens. And I think that they're probably from another dimension. Now, let me explain dimensions. Okay. And how I had to be taught it. we're on the same line right here. Me and you, we can talk, we can see each other.

I can throw something, you can catch it. When I watch a television show, if I'm on Netflix, I'm watching, we're watching a show now called The Recruit. Me, it's okay. At the same time, that's the more watching. At the same time, there's another stream that's running or another channel that's happening at the exact same time,

but we're just not on it right then. It's still happening. Right. So if you're flipping, even if you're flipping channels, I'm watching Saturday Night Live, but over on CBS, something else is happening at the same time, but the dimension that we're in right then is that NBC dimension. So do I think there's probably things we don't know about

and haven't been able to understand? Yeah, probably. I think so. I mean, if you were to explain a PlayStation 5 to a pilgrim, they'd have been like, that's not a thing. Right. That's not a thing. And first of all, a TV image coming from another place

and then you're able to control it and then you're able to play against other people. The concept would be so mind-blowing. they wouldn't even understand what you were trying to explain to them, much less be able to say no to it. Right. So do I think that there's probably a version of that now? Yes, because there's always been a version of that to every single civilization. You're right.

So I don't know that there's really a dimension where there's other people living or alternate universes. What I know is I know nothing. And for me to say that something is not happening would be absolutely the most ignorant thing I could do. Yeah, I agree with that. I think to give it like a blanket no. And that's what drives me crazy. When people go like, there are no... Right.

How can you say that? With every single civilization, there has been, in the decades or centuries to follow, things that would have blown the minds of those civilizations. And it's happened at a consistent rate for all of time. So for us to think that's not going to happen to us in three centuries, that would be looking at history

and saying something that's happened over and over of all time is not going to happen to us and that would be ignorant. That's silly. So. We're just like teeny tiny little ants. Kind of as crazy if you think about it. Yeah. The fact that you don't want to give me. So yes, I'm not so much interested in.

Caitlin, when I get on it and I have a couple friends I know when we go to dinner it's all we're going to talk about is like. Do you look forward to that? You're like, yes, I can't wait to go to dinner and talk about aliens. Are you like, oh no, this is tax? It's not so much aliens either, but like like double slit theory.

Yeah. So quantum physics, string theory. Like, I love all of that. And I like for people to either challenge me back on it or to go, not only that, I read this. Yeah. And none of us think we're right. Right. I think that's the great part.

None of us are fighting that we're absolutely right. But we're all going, what if this is true? It's never been proven false. It may not be true. but we continue to produce these things that weren't true at this time forever. Yeah, you're open to all the possibilities. Do you like Interstellar, the movie? It's one of the greatest movies ever made.

Of all time. It's one of the greatest movies ever made. I had never seen it. It just had the 10 year or 20 year. Well, depending if you watch the movie, maybe 500 year. Yeah. Well, God. But anyways, it was in IMAX and I just saw it and I lost my mind.

It was the coolest movie of all time. And that movie was done by a physicist. Like he was the one that, so all of the theory inside of it is actual theory. And to me, it's crazy that you can get, let's say we got on a car and it was to go, we were to go 10 light years away and we went 10 light years in a day. And then we came back on earth. A hundred years have passed. Yeah.

Literally. It's like millions of years have gone by. But for us it's only been a couple days, but because we're going. So it's crazy. Yeah. It really moved. And I don't even try to. understand it, but the only thing I understand is I know nothing.

Yeah. And so when people are so anti-no way this, I'm like, I don't really know if I can like jive with, just like talking with you. Yeah. Because you're not open. Yeah, you've got to be open. I have some vet questions for you. Okay.

Because I'll talk, I'll talk simulation theory. We heard really going down a dark. For hours. Twelve hours later. Why did you become a veterinarian? I became a veterinarian because this is really the tackiest answer of all time in cliche, but I love animals. I grew up in a house that was, I'll say, tumultuous.

My parents, my mom is a wonderful mom. She worked a lot. My dad dealt with a lot of addiction, so he was gone a lot. He was in and out of rehab. And it was just like the only constant I had in my life was my dog. I know it sounds so silly, but I just... I don't think it sounds silly at all. Yeah, I guess you know you had your old dog

when you were growing up. What was his name? Well, it depends which one. I had Bradley, but... The one that went to the farm. Yes. Okay, Bradley will get to that. But, you know, like when you're young

and I, yeah, it was just a crazy childhood and I felt like, oh, this is the one thing with unconditional love that I can really count on. So I just, yeah, I've always loved animals. And then when I turned 15, I got a job at a vet clinic. Wow. Mm-hmm. Doing what?

Whatever? Cleaning poop. Yeah. Feeding the dogs, taking care of them when they woke up from surgery. And then I have never worked anywhere in my entire life except in a vet clinic. What's the most rewarding part of the job? I am making, well, A, of course, taking care of the animals. But I'm making an impact in people's lives.

I mean, people love their animals and they're so close to them. And so I feel like, you know, taking care of their pets is essentially taking care of the people as well. and they're just so grateful most of the time. And that is really rewarding. What's the most challenging part about the job? The most challenging part. I think people would expect me to say like euthanizing or those parts of the jobs, but I don't think that's really it.

I think the most challenging part is I think like a lot, like when you work with, I think some humans like just don't understand and like probably think you're out for money sometimes. or like, and you know, vet bills are really expensive. And I think it's hard, like I've spent my entire life dedicated to saving animals. And then for that, for them to think that can be, that can be challenging. How do you feel about vet insurance or pet insurance? I think it is the best thing ever. You do think you do like it?

Absolutely. I think everyone should get pet insurance, but you need to get it when your animals are puppies or kittens. Why? Because then they don't have any preexisting conditions. Is it more expensive with preexisting conditions or you just can't get it? Yes, more expensive with preexisting conditions and they won't cover anything that kind of falls under that pre-existing condition box.

By the way, for everybody listening right now, Bradley was my Boston Terrier ahead when I was a kid, and I loved that dog. I loved that dog. And I don't have a bedroom growing up, so I slept on the couch, and Bradley slept on my chest every night on the couch, and Bradley would have nightmares and bite my nipple.

And he was like out of a nightmare. And he wasn't aggressive, except Boston Terriers were crazy, and that could be misconstrued as aggressive because it would just jump. They are like little aliens. Crazy dog. He was out of his mind.

Yeah. And. Very gassy dogs. He bit somebody apparently. I think he just jumped on him. And so my stepdad, he had a buddy, had a farm, sent him to the farm. And I was always sad that he had to go,

but I was, you know what? I thought we were going to get sued. So I was telling Caitlin the story. This is like 20 years later. And I was telling her the story. And she just kept laughing. And I was like, why are you laughing? They took my dog away.

She's like, I'm not laughing that your dog was taking way. I was like, this, and I was like getting mad because I love that dog and that's when he left. And she was like, do you really think that dog went to a farm? And I was like, what are you talking about? She goes, that dog didn't go to a farm. She goes, that's like the oldest dog cliche ever. And I'm like, well, I'll call Arkansas Keith right now. And then I, and I'm from the country. And so Arkansas Keith is country, if you ever heard him. And I called him and I said, hey, what happened to Bradley? And he said, oh, I had to shoot him because they were going to put him down. And I said, what? And I felt 12 again.

And he goes, oh yeah. He said, you really thought he went to a farm? You were like I was a child. Also, we were 45. And I was both, both. I wasn't six and I'm a man now. And I was destroyed inside my guts again for a minute. And Caitlin was teetering on laughing because I'm like the biggest idiot,

but also feeling bad for me again because I do feel bad. It, like, ripped my heart out again. And I was like, oh, my God. He goes, yeah, when he bit whomever, they were going to come take him away and put him down. He said, I didn't want him to do that. He said, and we lived in the country, he's like, so I shot him. Send him to the farm.

So they told me he sent him to the farm. I'm such an idiot. No, you're not. That's sad. This is like two years ago, I thought this story happened. That's very sweet and naive. This is why you have IBS. Part of it is stress.

I'm sure. doctor says that big time. He's like, you're so stressed out. One million percent. Okay. How about what's the number one mistake pet owners make when it comes to the dog's health? Is it food? Yes. At one million percent, they overfeed. And it's not their fault. They look at the back of the bag, which always tells owners to feed more than they should because I really think pet food companies want to sell more dog food. Oh, yeah. That's a great point. Yeah. I would compare it to expiration dates on our human food where they put the expiration date way earlier

so we either eat it to buy more or it's rotten at when it's not. Rotten or spoiled so we throw it away and buy more. Do you eat food after the expiration date? I don't really eat a lot of food that has, I drink a lot of orange juice and that has expiration date, but I never get to it. You're crushing. I don't even look at expiration dates. I can't say really yes or no.

I had some bread the other day because I only eat sourdough. because my stomach's all jacked up. And I ate a piece of bread and I told Caitlin, I was like, that sourdough bread was a little weird. Like what brand was that? Because it had blue on it. Oh, boy. Mold.

She was like, why did you eat blue? I was like, I don't know. I never had that brand before. Like, I don't know if that was, that's mold. And this is also why you have IBS. Yes. Yes. So I don't know the answer to that because obviously I don't look at stuff before I eat it.

Yeah. Kaelan probably throws it out if it gets to a point where it smells bad. That's fair. The old sniff test, it never fails, yeah. Yeah, I don't sniff anything. Oh, no. I take a big sniff. How do you handle the emotional side of the job?

And before you answer, I'd like to say something that I think sometimes people think is insensitive of me when I talk about veterinarians or surgeons or doctors, emergency room doctors. I like for them to be numb and it's just a normal day whenever everything's going crazy when it's bad and people, the dog's been hit by a car. I like my doctor,

it'd be like, just another day because I need them to be thinking their normal, rational self. They got into it because they wanted to help people but whenever it comes time to have to go into action, I still need them to be like,

hey, I've done this 100 times. Let me just, let me just, get in and I care, but because if you're not, your heart rate's not elevated, you're actually making decisions your normal way. For sure. I think, I think two things can be true. I care so much, but I'm also very calm under pressure.

And I also realize that it's not always, you know, when owners are crying and re-euthanizing the pet, of course, I'm so sad and, yes, maybe a tear will leak out here and there. But also, it's not my, not, I have to be strong for them. So I think you can care, but also remain calm. And then I think it's really important to take care of your mental health, like outside of work. So for me, that looks like playing pickleball with Caitlin and you, even though you beat me every time. Yeah, I'm a study. Except for my ankle, which I need to have x-ray.

Maybe we should redo it now. Then I could win. And just, you know, doing things outside of work that, you know, are a release and, you know, an outlet. I need you when you're doing surgery on whatever the animal is, my animal, I need you to be like, I've done this a hundred times. I'm just going to do this the best of my ability. And I've done it right so many times. So here we go. Hummed to dumb. Hummed to dumb. For sure. I need that from the people that are doing that because, again, if your heart rate's not up, you're acting and reacting in a way that is best for both of us. For sure. And that could feel a bit insensitive to say,

but I'm talking about, that's why emergency room doctors, they're a bit numb to it. And we need them to be a bit numb to it. Yeah. Not to care. Not to care. But we need them to be a bit desensitized so they're not acting hastily in any way. Yeah. That is not good for anyone.

Yeah, totally. And that's a bit of a contradiction. It is. I mean, I think it's just, like I said, you can care a lot, but you still have to remain calm under pressure. And everyone's different. I have some clients that want their vet to be, you know, crying with, I don't know. Everyone's a little bit different on what they want.

Maybe not everybody wants that. you know, hardcore, and they want like a little bit more bedside manner, but I think there's a good balance of finding both. What's the biggest mistake new pet owners make when they bring home a pet? Not crate training a dog. Big mistake. Really? As a puppy, yeah, yeah, it's a big mistake.

A, it sucks because you're putting them in the crate and they're screaming bloody murder, like you're torturing them and your first instinct is, I don't want to do this anymore. But if you don't crate them, it's really hard to potty train them. they can be destructive. I've seen so many dogs eat socks, hair ties, all the different things. You ever see people say, Kray training, it's wrong?

Is that a thing? I'm sure people say that. I'm sure people will comment on this saying that, but if anyone who has spent any long amount of time around, a lot of dogs knows you should crate train them. And that doesn't mean you have to create them forever. But just really that, like, first year of life is so important. Could we have, haven't had a baby yet?

Caitlin's not pregnant. But when I say that, we have to say that every time. I'm sure. Yes, every time. She's not pregnant. At some point, we're going to have kids, right? But with a baby, aren't you kind of crick-train in a baby when you put in the crib? Exactly.

The exact same. Or is that wrong for me to say? That's kind of what it feels like. No, it's the exact same. When they go in their crate, it's like, here's a little timeout, take a breather. You don't need to be parkoring off the walls 24-7. Just like putting a baby on, you need to take a nap. I also don't have kids, so what am I saying?

But I'm pretty sure it's the same. How can someone know if a certain breed or type of pet is right for their lifestyle, because I would imagine there's a lot of apartment people to get big dogs and the opposite. That is a great question. You should ask your veterinarian. But if you don't have a vet yet, because you don't have an animal. Well, you should know that, hey, I'm getting a dog. I want to go to a vet.

Call the clinic. And if they're not willing to answer that question for you or help you out, they're probably not the right clinic for you. Or you can DM me on Instagram. So you can say, hey, I'm thinking about getting a Great Dane, but I got a one-bedroom apartment, third floor. Which, by the way, Great Dains were amazing apartment dogs, but you wouldn't know that.

I wouldn't think that. I would think it would be way too big. They're perfect for your apartment. Is it because they don't have a lot of energy they need to have? Their couch potatoes. What, okay, let's say I was getting an Australian shepherd. Never ever would I get one in the apartment. Because they have a lot of energy. So much energy.

And I think the AKC has where you can go on and like Google the different breeds and like what they, what their energy levels are like, that's a good resource to look at. What are the most important vaccinations and treatments for a new pet? Oh boy. A lot. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, you're going to be doing, it depends on where they come from, but they are, I would have the expectation that they're going to need quite a few vaccines and probably some like heartworm testing, fecal testing when you first get them. The big one is rabies. People think we don't have, they're like, oh, my pet doesn't go outside or they don't do a lot outdoors. Like they don't need the rabies vaccine. But we see rabies all the time here in Tennessee.

In fact, all the time. In fact, I just had a class. client the other day who had a bat in her house. The cat ate, was eating the bat. Oh, yeah, that feels rabies-y. Yeah, the bat had rabies. Yeah. So did the homeowner also have to get the shots? The homeowner also has to get the shots. Oh, man. Mm-hmm. Um, final question about day-to-day vet life. There have to be a lot of foods. Also, by the way, sorry, now I'm thinking about this on my rabies tangent. If we get rabies as humans and we don't know it, you die. You would die. No people.

care. Okay, cool. That's terrifying. That's what's crazy. I know. It's terrifying. And what sucks is you've got to get all the shots. Well, it may be less now, but in your stomach. It's three. Yeah, three in the stomach. Foods that animals aren't supposed to eat. Some we know, the legendary chocolate and dogs. Yeah. Is that true or is that like an old wives tale? It's true. No, it's true. You don't want to eat like a large amount of chocolate. Like if Eller was in here right now and we gave her a chocolate chip, she'd be fine. We don't want to give her it. But if Stanley saw a chocolate chip,

chocolate chip from 100 miles away, he probably had diarrhea for a month. It's over. Yeah. One thing that a lot of people don't know is xylitol, which is an artificial sweetener. So that's in some peanut butter. I don't know why, but dogs love chewing gum. It's in a lot of chewing gum. And if they eat xylitol, they get really low blood sugar and can die.

How do, but are some peanut butter is like okay? Yeah, like the more natural ones. So you should, is that, so let's say you. put something in peanut butter and your dog takes a pill. Mm-hmm. What if it has xylitol in it? If there's like a little bit, it's not the end of the world, but like anything with, I would look.

I mean, I definitely would scan the ingredients to look for xylitol. I mean, Miss Peaches, you know, Dave Fortneyes dog, she ate a pack of gum and had to be hospitalized for days. Wow. Mm-hmm. What about grapes? Grapes are very dangerous. Grapes and raisins.

And we really honestly don't know 100% why, but one dog could eat a handful of grapes and be okay. Another dog can eat one grape and go into like full throttle kidney failure. It goes right to the kidneys. Like the kidneys? Yeah. Kidney shut down. Yep. I know. I'm trying to think garlic is not great. Onions aren't great. Anything else that's like a killer? We see I have, I would say since marijuana has been more legalized in certain states and whatnot, we see a lot of dogs that get into. Edibles? Edibles. They eat the edibles. They're super duper high. If we hospitalized are so high. What if a dog eats an edible or two? Um, they're gonna be high.

They'll like be, Are they gonna die? They won't die. They probably just need to take a long nap. They might pee on themselves a little bit. They're like, can't really walk. I did have a dog eat a bag of cocaine. Wow.

Wait, the cocaine in the bag. They ate the whole back of cocaine. Did the bag stay in? I don't, I'm not sure. Did you have to pull the cocaine bag out? He, we found out like kind of, it had been a couple hours after he ingested it and he was already losing his mind.

The dog was? So the cocaine got in his system then? Oh, yeah. He had seizures. Did the dog die? He did not make it. Really? Wow.

Hospitalized for like a week trying to, but he had, it was just, I mean, yeah, he overdosed. I guess the problem would be if you're the guy with the cocaine and the dog ate it, do you take the dog in because he just swallowed your very illegal drug? Do you have to admit that you had? That's the thing. And we always tell owners, if your pet gets into drugs, and I've had dogs. get into heroin, like some crazy things. Do not, we will not judge you.

We are not going to report you unless it's like a neglect case. We just want to save your animal. We will never call the police unless you're neglecting and abusing your dog. I can just see and understand someone whose dog has got into something highly ego and going, I don't want to go to jail. Yes. So sorry dog. Yep.

We'll also have like teenagers. Like I've had a 15 year old boy in there with his mom and dad. And they're like, what's wrong with our dog? And I'm like, oh, your dog is high on marijuana. and then the son has to like come clean in front of the parents just like you know there's always something going on it's like the dog that ate the underwear yeah oh yeah and that wasn't her underwear it was somebody else's underwear and that's how he found out she was cheating on him that uh yeah well that's a bad way to find out yep but at least he found out surprise um

okay. I think that's pretty much it. I was very impressed with you setting up the audio and the microphones. I haven't done in years, so we're hoping this records. I see the wave files, so I know something's happening. I had to do all this for the first 10 years of my career. I mean, I had to learn how to do everything because I had to do it all.

And then I would have to do different things and expected to be doing different things at higher level, so it was like, we'll have somebody run audio. We have somebody. So I kind of forgot how to do it all, but we figured it out. You pressed all the buttons. You only pinched your finger once in your headphones. Oh my god, hard. I ripped my skin on my hand. I'm like, here I go. I'm going. I have to suture your hand. Just like you would do, if zombies attacked and we needed a doctor, it would be you. When the grid goes down, I'll be here. What kind of ribbon do you have at graduation when you do

vet school? Do you have a special, like animal ribbon or something? What do you mean? Like tassels? Yeah. You have an oath in a hood, like a full Shibone. You have to say an oath as a vet? Yeah, you say an oath, just like humans. Is it secret like a handshake? It's not. No, you read it out loud. And I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but it's basically I vowed to do no harm to any animals ever. You think we'll ever be able to communicate with an animal with some sort of like system? I hope so. I would love that. I'd love to know what my dogs are thinking, but I don't know. I'll stay open to it, just like I'm open to dolphins being extraterrestrials. I think if the world lasts, because also the theory,

this is like the third or eighth time civilizations happened on Earth. Like it could have been wiped out and we started over. We have no idea. Yeah. If something hits and boom, everybody goes down

and it's all microorganisms and it's millions and billions of years, we have no idea if that's happened. How many times it's happened? How many versions of this have happened? But I think if the world lasts, yes, absolutely that'll happen. If we don't have to reset the system

and start over. For sure. Imagine if you did do marijuana. If I did, I wish I did. Can you imagine? And I would like to relax. I'd never relaxed. Your brain would be.

all the theories you could think of then. Yeah, but I feel like I would just be able to like take a deep breath. Because I, when I go to the dentist, they have to jack me up with laughing gas. Okay. And I don't laugh. But they have to put so much into me because I'm so tightly wound. Yes. And they'll go, man, we got you on like 70%.

Do you feel it? Nah. So, but they hit me. And I get so high on laughing gas. Once I hit a point, Earth disappears. And I remember, I'm not kidding. I'm sitting there once. I'm in space.

You're an interstellar. For sure. But I'm very aware that I'm in space. Okay. I'm so aware of where I am. I know I'm at the dentist, but I also know that nothing on the entire planet matters but love.

And this is what I'm telling. This is so beautiful. It was the craziest thing because I was so aware of everything that was happening, but I was able to peel away every part of bullcrap that doesn't matter

bullcrap that kind of matters physical things that I don't need all of it and I just remember thinking dang now that I don't have all this stimulus everywhere affecting me in different ways the only thing that kind of matters is like the relationships I have and love

and then once I was like normal again I was like gotta go to work but I remember thinking that I was like oh man like I don't I wasn't even tripping. No, yeah, you were just so clear. It was, I felt like a fresh bean. And you weren't laughing. No.

You probably were just like drooling. I was out of it. Okay. But I knew exactly where I was. I knew exactly what I was doing. I knew exactly what was happening to me as far as, yes, at the dentist's office, but also I was in a state that I had never been in before,

and I was experiencing something that I've never experienced before, and I had the awareness to go, this is pretty awesome. I also had the awareness to go, well, when this wears off, I'm not going to feel this way anymore. How interesting. It almost felt like inception. Yeah.

Where you're in a dream, but you know. Yeah. I was so whacked out, but I knew everything that was going on. And I knew that what I felt was the truth. But I also knew once I was able to get out of it, it was all going to come back. But I wanted to remember that. And I kept telling myself, hey, remember this, remember this, because you're going to get out in all the things that don't matter are going to start mattering again.

But I do remember it. So when people are like, go to your happy place, Bob. You're like laughing gas at the dentist. I wish. That's where it was. I'd take cases of it. Yeah. Or done tubes?

Yeah. Yeah. It's like aerosolized. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for talking with me. You guys check out Josie's podcast in the vet's office with Dr. Josie.

It's really great. One final thing. I was looking at your Instagram. You had a dog that was swollen on its leg, like a big knot. Mm-hmm. Right? Yes. And it was a bullet. That's my dog.

Yeah. I know. I mean, it's your dog. Yeah. Yeah. So tell that story. My husband and I were on vacation in Mexico and we're walking down the street and this little street dog comes up to us and she's so cute. And I was like, well, we'll just keep walking.

We'll see what happens. She followed us in and out of a couple stores. The next thing I know is I am at the vet clinic in this tiny little Mexican town getting her rabies vaccine. My husband's in the corner like, are you kidding me? like why are we we're supposed to be on vacation. And we brought her home. And I went to, well, A, she did have a little swelling on her back leg. But before that, I immediately, as soon as I got her home, I went to spay her.

But you get to bring her home because you're a vet. Yes. Now rules are like even more strict, to be honest. Most people wouldn't be able to do that. But I do sign off on like international travel for animals. So I went to kinkos. I don't know. I wasn't kinkos.

I was like a Mexican kinkos and printed off some papers, signed her papers. And then we flew home with her. And I went to spay her and I got into her and I usually don't do surgery on my own dogs really Like that just kind of crosses a boundary for me but with her I'm like I've only known her two days Like it'll be fine I'm just going to spay her and I'm scrubbed in get in there and then I'm like oh my god And I have my nurse call my husband Cody and I said Cody we did not bring home one dog We brought home 11 she was pregnant with 10 puppies oh yeah whoopsie daisies yep and And then she had this big old swelling on her back leg.

And so I cut into that and it was a bullet in her back leg. Oh, my God. I know. It's terrible, isn't it? I don't get sad when people die in movies or shows if I don't have a long, long, long, long relationship with them. You kill a dog or an animal. I'm out. There's a special place to hell.

It makes me cry. Especially if you have animals, they don't know. I know. And they are the most pure creatures on the earth. They would never do anything wrong on purpose. So I agree. The fact that they don't have ethics is the greatest thing because there is nothing wrong if you don't make what is right.

And so animals don't have that. They just live. They don't do anything wrong. They don't do anything right because there is nothing wrong. Yeah. And without wrong, there's no right. Without right, there's no wrong. And that doesn't exist.

So they don't do anything. They're so pure. It's pure is the perfect word. There's a reason dog backwards is God. I don't know if everyone believes in God and whatever you believe in, but I think it's so... Well, I think that mixture of letters. It just happens to be a fun little thing to say.

Awesome. Thank you. And you guys, again, check out Dr. Josie's podcast. And also go to her Instagram, which is Dr. Josie. Bet. Yeah, I just posted a picture today. I was here giving Stanley his shot. And I went to the bathroom and Ella was like, I'm coming with you.

Yeah, she was right in front of you. And I was like, that's why I thought you were in my house. because I called you. I was like, are you at my house? Yeah. I was like, no. And you're like, no. I was like, oh, okay, can you be at my house? And you're like, yes. So at Dr. Josie Vett. And you guys, check out in the vet's office with Dr. Josie.

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