The Bobby Bones Show - Tuesday Post Show (11-12-24)

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

Amy shares her ‘crazy dog’ story where she spotted a teenager with a dog that looked just like hers but didn’t think too much about it. Bobby also talks about the last time that Eller got out and made it 5 miles away. Bobby talks to Abby who is banking off people off work by dog sitting. Mike D brings up a dilemma he is having listening to Zach Bryan and we debate separating the art from the artist when it comes to musicians who have done bad things. We then get into a discussion of how hard it is to parent kids these days.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, Amy, tell everybody your dog story. Oh, well, my dog, she's a little crazy. We all know that. And she gets out often and she'll just run away. I don't have a fence. And I'm driving home. pulling into my neighborhood, and I see this teenager walking a dog that looks just like my dog. But there are a lot of dogs look like her.

She's a black Labradoodle, but she has this little white patch, but they're walking, so I can't really see the patch. I'm like, gosh, that really looks like her. But the leash is not mine. So I'm like, oh, well, fun. She's got a cute little brother or sister in the neighborhood. And then I get home and my side garage, like, the door is open. And I guess one of the kids left and I didn't shut it all the way.

and she busted through it and got out. And I was like, oh my gosh, I need to go back. Like, that's got to be her. And so I drive and I go up to this kid, not knowing 100%, like, is that my dog? Because like, why would he be walking her? And he said, oh, this dog like ended up in our yard and I was able to catch her. And I put her on a leash and I'm walking her waiting for my mom to get home to tell me what to do. And I said, then I see the white pouch.

I see her caller and I'm like, oh, well, no worries. I'll tell you what to do. Just hand her over to me because that is my dog. And I mean, she's chipped. So I guess if they would have taken her in. But my guess is we have a neighborhood chat thing. And I think the mom probably would have taken a picture and then thrown it on the text and like, is this? Whose dog is this? Because I've seen that happened with other things before. And yeah, it was just one of those moments where I was like, That looks like my dog. Better dog than a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I had that thought of like, sometimes you're like, huh, that looks like something that belongs to me, but surely it's not. And then surely it was. And I was like, well, thanks, kid. We have a dog, too, that likes to get out. And she only ever got out. I told the story a couple weeks ago, Ella, and she runs. She just loves to run.

I don't even know if she knows why she's running, but even in the yard, she just sprints. And somebody left the door open. this is a few weeks ago, and I get a note on my phone that she, again, is out. She's never been out in the years, all the years that we've had her. And so Caitlin calls me, I was up in the studio,

we were doing like post-show stuff and I had to leave the day. Yeah, I remember that. And so I look, and she's like five miles from the house. Whoa. Which is a lot farther than the last time, because we were in New York and a neighbor two houses down because we have her, he can't read her chip, but we have her on a caller.

We have, hey, this is Ella, this is the phone number to call if you find her, a call. And that neighbor from two houses over, because she just went to the yard, just stayed in the yard. Well, Caitlin's like, dogs out, and it looks like we can track on the Apple Air Tag, that she's far, far away. Like, man, is that even real? So there was somebody who was working on the Broncos, somebody was working on the Bronco. Somebody was working on the Bronco.

And let's fix it, like a couple aesthetic things about it. And we were like, hey, we have two safeguards for the dogs not to get out. there is a door, then there is a fence in the garage, and then there is a garage door. Do not open any of them, because if you do, Eller will come out,

and then she doesn't hang around, she's out of there. We don't worry about Stanley, he's fat. Five steps, he's like, I'm good, what am I going to do you? That's what happened. The guy opened the doors, and Ella ran out.

So we didn't realize it, and Caitlin says, hey, this place, it looks like he. it's an animal shelter once you zoom in a little closer to where the apple air tag is and it's probably like 11 or so that time of the morning when I left because we're in the middle of stuff and I was like I got to go chase this dog down and we get there and there's a girl and my wife can be there by like five minutes there's a girl she has elder on the car and she was like she was running across the highway and I grabbed her and put her in

the car and I don't know who she was so I took her to this animal shelter alter place and the animal shellterplex was full wouldn't take any more dogs. Kalen just happened to get there right when she had the dog. I was like, I don't know what to do. And so luckily we got the dog back. But had somebody not grabbed the dog again for the second time. And that's how Eller got five miles away. Yeah, the girl put her in the car and tried to take her to it.

Okay, I was like, how did that happen? Yeah, I was like, did someone steal her collar? And Ellers, like, at home, but somebody's got her collar five miles away. Like, we got a good one. We got an apple air tag. So, I don't know. But yeah, that's, that would have been weird, though, to see somebody walking nail her? Not know

she was out? Yeah. And then if you were the kid, do you just hand the dog to this lady that says that that's her dog? If you're a kid, you do, because you know it's not your dog and the dog's escape. Yeah, and I look friendly and I said, hey, I live around the corner and he, yeah, everything made sense.

And it just was kind of funny how it played out. Hey, Abby. She's putting her mic and headphones on. Yes. He's waking up. Hello there. Oh, I heard it.

Sorry, my headphones were on. Can you shut the door? Oh, yeah. Like, anytime I go to that room, they keep that door open, so the fans, like, because we don't have air condition still, we have, like, a secondary backup generator of air. It's like the AC unit is right outside our door. The outside unit, you know the one that was a big fan? Yeah, but there's nothing or else surrounding it to kill any.

that someone's like, hey, if I got to come to you guys, make sure the door shut. Yeah. Abby. Yes. Oh, that sounds much better. Headphones on, door shut. Ready to go. So word on the street here, and you can tell me if the word is true or not, is that you're banking off people at work.

I'm making some good side money, I will say. Doing what? Oh, you know, watching dogs. Dog sitting. I'm back. How many people are you watching their dogs? Well, I'm watching Morgan's tonight and tomorrow. I just watched Kickoff Kevin.

Evans last weekend. Ask her how much she's charging. How much are you charging? I'm not really charging. I don't really charge. How much are they giving you, Abby? What? How much are they giving you?

Less than Bobby. Yeah, but Bobby pays a lot of money. That's true. It's not anything out of the ordinary. You don't have to answer the question. The question was, how much are they giving it? It was less than $150 for a weekend. And do you stay the night at the house?

No. With Kevin's, I kept the dog. Oh, got it. Oh, yeah, Kevin has a small, Morgan has a small dog too. Yeah. So Morgan's dog stays at her house and you just swing by?

Or do you stay there? I spend the night. At the house? In case it, well, she stays in my house. Yeah, that's nice. Anybody, well, someone's always in my house. Because there was a story we talked about on 25 whistles where there's a player for the bucks,

basketball and he was playing and while he played they robbed him because they knew he wasn't going to be there and so we've always made an effort if i'm gone or we're all gone and nobody's at the house somebody's at the house at all times well yeah if i say i'm doing a show somewhere or i'm like that okay if you know where bobby lives go to his house no one will be there so we always have somebody at the house um just for that reason alone because otherwise you're advertising burglary on me. It's a clearance burglary sale. Get all you can get.

You just hope that the burglars get that memo. Well, I don't, I'm not. The memo that someone's already always there. Yeah, yeah, yes. I don't care. Someone's there. They're burglars. Someone's always there.

No, no. But even if they don't get the memo, if they show up to the house, they can know one's there. And someone's there, their actions are going to be different. Yeah, yeah, true, true. I was just thinking for the person that's at your house.

Because there'll be a car there. Yeah, yeah. So. So my house is, if we're gone, there's always somebody there. So part of when we pay Abby to stay there is just to fight burglars. Oh my gosh. Well, that's worth the money. See?

Yeah. And you guys are like, dang, you pay her a lot. Well, you didn't know her job responsibilities, didn't you. Right. I didn't realize that. That's why. Yeah, I like staying at your house. What do you think in average dog sitter charges?

Like, what is that we know? The internet says between $50 to $100 for an overnight. Yeah. For an overnight. So 50 on the low end, $100. on the high end. What about if you're just doing a swing buy or what if you just keep the dog? I think a swing by is like 20 to 25 a pop. Each swing or per day? Per swing. So like if you're not saying the night, maybe you go by twice,

you still make $40, $50. I mean, and that includes a walk and, you know, you feed them. Oh. Yeah, for that the hourly rate, they have it at $14 an hour. Oh, well. If you just go by for an hour. A pop is an hour, right? That's what I mean. It doesn't have to be. Well, maybe less. I mean, I think a pop would be less. A pop sounds like 15 minutes. Yeah, Bobby's right.

It's more of like, I don't know that that means they're at the house an hour, but, you know, Lexie Hayden used to do the pops for my dog. And she was with a company that specialized in that, like pop stars or something. And they, that's kind of what they're average.

Like if you want to, because you're trusting someone, they're coming into your home when you're not, you know, you need to make sure that they're like good to go. And obviously. We trusted her. Abby, are you up like an higher tax bracket now because of all this?

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I've worked my way up. She's probably not reporting this money to taxes. Yeah, she probably doesn't say anything. Why would you guys say that? Oh, Joe, why? Now they are. Like, never say someone's not reporting any taxes.

Like that is the unwritten rule of like waiting tables or doing anything where you make cash. Like, it's like fight club. Don't talk about it. No, don't ever. Abby, so now if it happens, you know where it came from. Exactly. Thanks guys. I'll say I have a question about, I know, I have a question though about that. Do I have to report my Facebook marketplace earnings?

The answer is always yes. But it's no, because I bought that stuff already originally and I'm reselling it. You should check though. I know. Yeah, absolutely. You should do everything by the book. You should look and read every line and do everything exactly legal. Can you call the IRS and be like, hi, I have a question. Like I've made a hundred, $150 on Facebook Marketplace. Do I have to claim that? I can Google it.

But then are they tracking my Google searches and they're like, audit her? I think calling is hilarious. The Internet says yes. Says what? That you have to pay on anything that you gain a profit from. Even if it's personal item. It's earned income. Like your whole job could have been buying personal items and selling them for a profit.

Like flipping them. Okay, back it up. It's not profit. No, if say I originally bought something for $100 and then I sell it on Facebook Marketplace later for $25, that's not a profit. Ooh, that's a loss. It depends. Well, it depends how long you used it because there is, what is like value, usage value over time. So you need to look that up.

Man. You need to formulate what that is. There's so much that goes into this. Absolutely. And I know nothing except I'm just like, there's always, you should always pay. It seems like there's a certain amount you have to hit too. I think like $600 is like the baseline. For what the year?

For VEMO 2, they had it where it was, you know, they wanted you to report any Venmo money you made. and now there's a minimum of what you have to be paid before you have to report it in. Yeah, I feel like that's what it is, right, Mike? 600? I think so. But 600. An item? No, no, no, no. Combine.

All year. All year. We should still ask. We should still call the IRS and ask them. Calling the IRS is hilarious. Like, they patch you through someone, an agent? Like, what do they do? You're a Q&A department I can have.

You guys have, like, an intern. Oh, yeah. 844, 5. I would never call that number. I would never call the IRS. That's totally going to target on you right there. That feels worse than Googling. That's literally the number. There's a local.

We weren't arguing that it wasn't the number. Oh, we have a local office right down the street, actually. It's literally right down the street. We could walk there. Excuse me. It's the one office nobody wants to go to ever. It's like a block away. There's spider webs in the doorway.

Nobody wants to go in. So, Abby, are you getting too big time? to watch my dogs now? No, of course not. I'm never too big time for your dogs. No, you're her biggest client. Yeah, you're my like, you fill my calendar the most, so. I'm the whale. Yeah, she'll cancel everything else if you call. That's good, because she's also like fighting off crime, you know, you guys didn't realize that. Didn't realize that. She's part Abby, part Spider-Man. Yeah. Watching dogs doing that. I'm so intimidating. No, we don't really care about that. It's just mostly if they get there and it's like, well, we have to whack somebody.

It'll be Abby. She was over here with her boyfriend the last time. You can't allow that. I don't care. They're doing... Yeah, they're doing stuff in your band. You can't do that, Bones.

Abby, are you still your boyfriend? Yeah. Okay, I thought so. I am. No, she was like, hey, do you care if he comes over? I don't care. It's like a babysitter asking they can bring their boyfriend? Yeah.

And literally, there's nothing to do here with the dog. You just have to put your eyes on it. That's not true. You have a hot tub. You have a wine cellar. You don't listen to what I'm saying. There's nothing to do with the dogs. Oh, I know.

The dogs just chill. Right, so you're basically coming to an Airbnb. That's what Abby and her boyfriend are doing whenever you tell her to watch the house. Well, that would be any house then going to an Airbnb. That's amazing. No, Stanley never wants to come inside. For some reason, he does not want to. He wants to lay out on the bridge we've built and just sit there and not do anything.

And then in the evening, he just wants to lay in his bed. Like Bulldogs, there's 100 reasons you should not buy a bulldog. But there's one you should, and they don't want. DGAF and they'll just sleep all day. Yeah. And everyone's... Well, no, that's not true at all. Well, that's...

Extremely high maintenance. In the physical sense. But day-to-day activity, you don't have to, like, walk them. They walked themselves to the food bowl and back, and then they're done. Where LR is the opposite. We have, like, six acres we live on.

So that's enough acres for her to run. And like, we have woods, so she, like, hunts in the woods. Pretty much, she's good. But she, every day she checks the perimeter trying to get out. She's a perimeter dog. She runs it, trying to find a hole.

Trying to look for that hole to get out. Because it sounds like she's a security dog, but now she's looking for that hole to escape. She's tasted glory a couple times. Now she knows what it's like outside of this. Mike D. has a moral dilemma about Zach Bryan. Yeah, about listening to his music now. All the stuff came out about the breakup. He doesn't seem like a good dude.

But I find myself now more than ever like listening to his music, seeing it around the house. I'm like, can you still listen to his music even though he's a bad dude? Can you separate the art from the artist in this situation? I was thinking about this and all the music that we don't really get to listen to anymore because people are awful. Like, I believe I can fly from R. Kelly, like, generationally great song. Yeah, but it's over. You can't listen to it at all.

I mean, if you do, you got to like be in your closet. Underneath some dirty clothes and nobody hears you listening to it. Sometimes I sing it. Yes, yeah. See, what about Michael Jackson though? You have to fast forward the space jam part. If anyone's around, you watch the space jam, fast forward. Like over Halloween, I'll play thriller maybe like 20.

times. Microjackus is a different story. Okay. Only because the more information that comes out about that odds, there's better odds. He was just a really effed up dude who was so messed up by his childhood that he didn't do that stuff, but he was still childlike,

and people bilked him for money. I see that. And I don't know for sure that's the case, but there are just a lot of things that you can read about people that went after him, and a lot of cases that ended up being just civil settled and, like, I think he was just really messed up.

Yeah. And I don't know if he did it or not. But he was so childlike because he never had to intellectually grow. He was abused as a kid by his dad and then by who knows who else. So that one feels a bit different to me because we really don't know

and there's evidence, at least there's some evidence. that maybe some people were just using him for money. There's also some pretty bad stuff that he possibly or probably did. But maybe, I don't know. There's just so much. I watch a documentary on those kids.

Mike, did you watch that? Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. Even when you see the interactions he would have, like having people over, like their kids he's having over when he's hanging out with him doing things. He looks like a child. He's a kid. He's acting like a child.

He's just never had to grow. They're like throwing each other in the pool. and like running around. He's like, hey, let's go up. It just feels weird that he like missed out on that. Also, was he absolutely weird? Yeah.

I think. So I do not know and I'm not being an apologist because who knows? He could have been every single awful thing they said. But I do now have suspicions that a lot of that stuff

people were able to put on him just because he was weird, not that he was predatory. Yeah. What do you think, Mike? Yeah. I mean, I really think it was him not having a childhood.

Even thinking about that story of him wanting to experience a grocery store because he had this fame and he couldn't do normal things, I think he missed out on that so much in his life that he wanted to experience it. And to everybody else, that seems so weird to see an adult man like playing with toys, like jumping in the pool, having a roller coaster at his house. Even just having kids around all the time. Yeah. I don't think it was me just thinking not knowing. I don't think it was Petto having kids around. I think it was that's who he related to. And you think of like the pressures of how famous he. was and he just wants to go home and disconnect from that and he reverts back to that like childlike energy that he never had i could see that happening but again i can't deny like what he did or didn't do we don't know but it seems so weird to like understand that concept and he was never found guilty in a criminal case um but again i'm not saying he didn't do it i'm saying that feels a bit

different because some of the accusers there's some real shady stuff behind them as well Uh, so, I don't know. Everyone's while I doubt on to Michael Jackson. Yeah? I mean, I think I'm okay with separating the artist. I'm not. I'm not. Because, like, Chris Brown came on the other day.

Like, he's not good, dude. Oh, done. Do we know that? Yeah, he's been not good for a very long time. But, like, that side to side, side, side to side. Came on, I'm like, jam. I'm listening to the whole thing. Didn't even think about him.

Uh, yeah. So I would say, R. Kelly, we can't mess with that at all. Did he? Oh, Diddy's done. Did he done. That one came on the other day. You came on a playlist. We were playing pickleball.

And I want to... The more money we come across. The more money we see it's... B-I-G, B-O, D-A. No info. What's up? D-E-A. Federal agents, man.

Like, during the biggie part, I was like, yeah, yeah. And then Diddy came on. I was like, oh, now, turn it out. Time out. Time out. We've got to change the song. Yeah. So, Diddy hasn't been found guilty yet.

Well, we're going to... Absolutely. There was a lot of... Michael Jackson, and I'm not comparing the two, but I'm saying if we are staying consistent, although he did get denied what yesterday for his fourth, like, bail attempt. So he's in prison. Yeah, he's in jail. Yeah, he's in jail.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I saw him to get a meal or something. Did he's terrible? You watch him get a meal? No, they talked about what he ordered. It wasn't even that interesting. Like a live stream? No, somebody said like what did he ate for lunch or something?

I don't. I don't know the craziest things on that. Yeah, I did he's done. I want to be consistent to go, well, he wasn't proven, because I innocent, until guilty, but, uh, man. When I watched him, like, punching Kit Cassie in the hallway, that video, I was like, no, he's pretty guilty. Yeah, unless it's AI.

Can't deny that. Chris Brown, I guess, I never really been a fan anyway, but I wouldn't know if it came on. I wouldn't always know what his songs were. Right. No, I just heard that song and I was like, who is that? Oh, that's Chris Brown. Oh, forgot about that.

What about like a Ryan Adams? Now remember he got canceled, but I think he's... And I'm not sure what he got canceled for. Was it like... Abuse. Physical, emotional. Chris Brown? No, Ryan Adams.

Oh, Ryan Adams. I think he was talking to... I'll have to Google him. Minors. Oh. That too, yeah. Like, giving him concert tickets. Let's look that up. I think it was like grooming.

Before we just say that. Okay. That's a bad one. Yeah, I think that's it. Oh, sexual misconduct. Yikes. I'm going to see something more of the sexual misconduct. I know.

But like Ryan Adams, I used to listen to a lot of Ryan Adams. Lots of Ryan Adams. Whoa, I don't think I'm... Don't be confused with Brian Adams. No, no, different guy. Brian Adams is in summer, summer of 69. Oh, that is a bummer. You know it's true. Everything I do.

He's good for you. He's good. Yeah, he's good. There were seven women who accused him of like dangling career opportunities. Like, hey, I can make you famous. I can do this with you. Any of them young? They say young, because that's pretty their ages.

I don't see their ages. Dude, if every entertainment person that did that got caught, they'd have no music. They can't tell everybody. We'd have no music. Yeah, it says seven women, including

his ex-wife, Mandy Moore. Yeah. Accused him of championing rising female artists and then exploiting them and stifling their ambitions often for his own sexual gain.

And had inappropriate conversations with people who are 15 and 16 years old. There we go. It's not good. That is not good. No. But I think it was ever charged with anything. And yeah.

I hate to go, eh, I don't know. Can you listen to Ryan Adams? What if he's, can he's reformed? I mean, I've listened to Ryan Adams. I haven't since. You haven't? No. See, that's interesting.

No, no, no, no. About him, his music. I'm not listening to him ever again. That's not. Yeah, but I don't think you ever did listen to Ryan Adams. Yeah, I was going to say, I mean, what does he sing? Do you remember he did a whole cover of Taylor Swift's album? And a lot of those artists have had those, like, removed from streaming services.

Any, like, covers he did or, like, collabs they did with him. Like, they're, like, we're done with him. Gotcha. Yeah, he was very, he was almost pop culture, famous enough, but he really wasn't. And you kind of had to be into that music. Yeah. Yeah, he was, he definitely had a band-based. that it was close he was so it was so close to like existing when he covered that

taylor album i think people starting like oh who is this guy okay ryan adams and then i think that's around the time everything came out too yeah like a couple years after that a couple years your time table's okay a couple years yeah uh yeah i i i yeah right i'm just can't listen to him i who else going to not listen to like there's really been some great music taken from us because guys are idiots yeah it's never women it's always guys who are like the perves or the disgusting humans. Well, didn't they try to do, like, is it Lizzo?

Yeah, but she was just, like, mean to her band, I think. Yeah. Like, they didn't cancel her, but it wasn't, like, sexual stuff, was it? I think she would take her, she would force people to go to the strip club. Okay. I know country artists would do that with artists now.

I don't want to go. Oh, well, I go to the strip club. Yes, they claim, there is claims that she sexually harassed them. But by doing what? Backup dancers. Mike, do you have it? I think it was like she was calling out

like their body. Okay. I just feel like that's a different level. I feel like I can still listen to Lizzo. Is Lizzo, I don't have to like her. Is Lizzo, Amy's song? Yeah.

Oh, wow. Amy, every time, Amy, you can't win games anymore. Wow. Well, that's why I limit it. Yeah. Maybe it's because things have gotten so bad stuff like this is like, oh, no, we can still listen to her

because she didn't. There's like that Gary Glitter guy. Rock and Roll Part 2? Yeah. You know, hey. Duna, nah, Dana.

Gary Glitter, a bad one. Yeah, it's CP. Oh. Oh, is that recent? That was like, no, and it's like 20 years ago.

If you wouldn't have hummed that song. Was it only 2019? I remember. I thought it was longer than that, but 2016. What are marching bands going to do? That's their big jam. Sometimes people still play that song.

That's like it's the only thing. So we're making a list. So we're not, no, R. Kelly. No. Because people are just getting out. Okay. So just think of this if this was reversed. Okay.

With like the Lizzo thing, if this was reversed and this was a man doing it. Yeah, but that doesn't always count because like teachers that like hook up with students were always like, it's messed up. Guys, messed up. The girl's like, well, no, it's still messed up.

It is messed up. It is messed up. But you look at it differently. Like I saw another one. It was like a really attractive. she was like 25 and she was hooking up with like a 15 year old. And that's terrible. Like in real life,

mine, that's terrible. But we feel different about it because it's a dude and we're dudes. Like it does feel different. It's not legally different. She should go to jail. I don't, but yes,

you're right. Yeah, yeah. But I'm just saying, like, if I read this sentence, this is from TMZ, this, in the documents,

the women say, Lizzo pressured dancers to interact with the dancers, her backup dancers, with sex performers in Amsterdam. and it's you know i can't even say what this next thing is but if you have your boss and this is how you make money and they're putting you in this situation then you're vulnerable and you're like oh well i guess i need to do this like i don't want anything to get weird or like if it was a man being like hey you have to like interact with these sex dancers not that it matters it's all wrong

but what does interact i don't know that i want that's like go to a strip club because it's because that was initially what it was right it was like she was making her dances Patrons are known to eat bananas out of the performers. Dude, that's what they do in Mexico. Yes. Oh, for sure. We got it, Amy. Yep, okay.

Their hands. Nope. They do more than that, too, in Mexico. They like, there was like a banana chopper, right? You ever see that one? No. You're about that one? No.

So that sucks. And they would. All of these suck. We're just saying, what's the level we have to stop, listen to their music? You know, but I think I need to change my song. Oh, that's what. I think I need to change my song. I didn't know that about the, I didn't know that.

Don't Google my uncle. Hopefully he's been good. Theo foofa? Diofufa. All of this stuff is very serious. Yes. And if it felt like it happened, it's super close to us, we'd be like, oh my God, get away from that person forever. It almost feels, though, because Hollywood's like so weird all the time that it feels almost fictional.

It's like when someone dies, it's famous. and you're like, I don't really know them. Is that even real? But no, when you think about it being real people, it really sucks. But then it's hard. Can you separate the art from the artist? And is there a level of they're only this bad so we don't have to separate versus they're this bad

so we do and we cannot listen? What is that level? Yeah, it's tough. So far, R. Kelly's the level. Ditty's the level. I need to know more about this Lizzo thing. Although I don't listen to Lizzo anyway. That would be, that would be Amy's Ryan Adams is my Lizzo.

I don't listen to Lizzo. So it's like, I'm going to continue. Here's my word. I'm going to continue not listening to Lizzo. Right. I don't know that I've listened to her in quite some time, but. She does the hands up. But she's like famous to do.

Like she's like social media. They cover on TMZ because she's like her like Halloween costumes. The South Park. Yeah. She was like. Which is odd. Wasn't she a semi-glutide for Halloween? She was.

She was actually Ozmpic, the bot. Oh, that's cool. And she was like, I'm not on O Zipik. That's funny. Yeah, because South Park made fun of her. They made fun of Ozympic, but they called it Lizzo. So then she was like, oh, I'll make the joke back. We would like to say all these people are, all their actions are awful.

We do not support any of them. Okay, I just, just out of curiosity, just Googled, is Lizzo redeemed? And it said, as of now, Lizzo is not considered redeemed in the public eye due to the ongoing lawsuit filed by her. I would disdiscuit. I agree. I don't redeem anybody. I just see what comes up in the news and TMZ. And if they're covering someone's Halloween costume, that seems like pop culture has kind of redeemed them. Because it wasn't Lizzo, who's been accused and charged. I don't know if charges were because I don't know if she's in federal, like a criminal court.

Gotcha. They were just like, ha, ha, look at her costume. Yeah, but all the, you know what? I'm listening to nobody's music until they prove they're good. I'm going to switch it up. I guess the judge dismissed the case back in February. He did. He dismissed the sexual harassment allegations. So could have even been false then. The allegations could have been, if a judge dismisses the case, could have been false.

Or maybe the judge thought. There wasn't enough evidence. Right, right. Which means that you can keep your soul. Which also means we don't know why the judge did it. It could have been anything from borderline, yeah, this is pretty bad. Or it could have been like, you guys are lying trying to get money. Yeah.

Because that happens a lot too. True. I'm going to jam some Lizzo today. You know what? Maybe I do too. Now, how many songs do I know from Lizzo? None. They clip my hair.

Check my nails. That's a good one. And then Amy's juicy. Let's take a quick break here. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me.

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We're trying to make a list. Is there anybody else? But, you know, if you did like country music, is there anybody we have to... I mean, there was a couple. Jimmy Allen. Jimmy Allen's one, right? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, is it conspiracy or is there legit, you know, because I don't know. stuff I just know what I see on TikTok and I have no idea of things are true. It's like, do we really know? We don't know. No, we don't know. From what we do know, yeah, it's kind of, we don't listen to.

Oh, I'm not even talking about Jimmy Allen. I think that's, I don't know what's going on with that. And it's always, yeah. And away from that, it's like if people really knew what was happening, I would even say to the point where if, I would say more of you, there's so much, like, heinous stuff that has. happens in this town with artists that I don't think, I don't even think you guys know. It's awful.

And I'm good. I'm like happy not knowing anything. Yeah, I don't think I want to know, but then also are they? I would be happier and not knowing. Yeah, but yeah. Just like, there's some, there's some bad, like, people think just because somebody's famous, they're like good until they prove they're not. I would say it's like 60-40 bad.

I would say 64. as in not good to awful. Not all that 60 is like the devil. Dang, I just Googled something about like just country artists and whatever. And side note, this article comes up on BuzzFeed and there's all these pictures and artists and there's a picture of Morgan Wallen and I'm in that picture. You're in a Morgan Wallen picture? It's from IHeart Festival in 2021.

And I'm like, he's looking at me. He's talking to me in that photo. Thank you to make the cut. Dang, rude. Did they blur you or just cut you out? No, I just know for sure. I just know. Okay.

No, I know that exact setting. Like, I know, I can show you my picture. Jesus is pointing. And it was you? Jesus was pointing to me in this picture. You were at the supper? They cut me out. I was like to far left and they just didn't paint me on there.

And I was like, oh, and I finally saw, I was finally revealed. Where am I in that picture? You were asking for bread. Yeah, yeah. Guys! No, I just know. He's literally looking at me. That's your argument.

I just know. No, no. I'll show you my photo. of him giving me that. Okay. That's proof. That's proof. That's proof.

If you have that, Amy, we all could tell that story. But I have it. That's cool. The defendant of artists, we can't listen to a list. I would like to finish this, though. R. Kelly.

Diddy. I can't think of anyone else. Because it's almost got to be so, so, so bad. Because even with Zach Brian, like, he's a scumbag, it feels like. Oh, my gosh. You know what I think it is?

I think it's kids. In my mind, Because my, that's serious. My judgment is not universal judgment. I don't get to make all the rules. But I know on my head when I'm like, yep, not effing with that anymore. It's if somebody's messing with kids. And I think that's where the Michael Jackson stuff even comes in.

And forever it was like, no more Michael Jackson. But the more you read about some of the stuff, you're like, I don't know, maybe there's a chance that he was just so vulnerable, people went after him. Michael Jackson, that is. But I don't know that. So I listen sparingly. One song every three months. Halloween, thriller. That's it.

Because that last documentary, it was about the parents who were kind of going after them to get money out of them. And I mean, you can skew a documentary to prove your point, but that was another angle on it. I think for me, it's when someone's messing with kids. I'm automatically out if they're like predatory. And then the rest, I also don't think I'm a big fan of anybody who's like, like, all these people we listed, I'm not only big fan of any of them. Yeah. Like you weren't really listening to them anyway. Like if like John Mayer or Counting Crows.

That's different. Like I'm a massive fan of those guys. And that would affect me. But like, I can't think of the last time a Chris Brown song came on. I don't even know where I was when that song came on. And some of them were good. You know, what was good?

The song in the office. One, two, three, four. That's right. Is that it? The wedding one? Are you guys doing the same song? I don't know what she did. And she didn't know what I did.

I thought we put together a pretty good song there. Yeah, the wedding aisle. Yeah, but I don't know if you knew what I did because I definitely didn't know what you did. Oh, now I got that. That makes sense. Yeah. And then I go, all Bobby did say was one, two, three, four. Okay, sorry, I did that.

Bobby goes, one, two, three, four. And I go, do you, near, near. Now I hear it. Now I hear hers. And then I think lunchbox goes, double your pleasure. Like, we all had it. Oh, was that you? That was my.

Love course was not jumping in a song knowing anything. No, no, I said that's it when Amy did the hour. Right, but you said that's it. You didn't say part of the song. If she was going to give me credit, I was going to take it. He was definitely going to take it. I was like, I didn't say it, but if you're going to give me credit for a song, I'll do it. But we knew that you wouldn't sing any part of a song.

And the funny thing is he's literally I read next to me. And I thought he said it. Oh, well. Anything we need to say before we get off of this topic? I think you said it, man. I mean, yeah, I don't feel like. I think that will be an age old. I mean, think about all the old artists from like the same.

60s and 70s. We didn't even know the crap they were up to. Stephen Tyler. You ever heard the Stephen Tyler story? About how he ended up adopting the 16 year old so we could take her on tour like the parents gave him. No. What? Wait, I thought that was Elvis. No, Elvis too. Yeah, but that was his wife.

No, no, but that's what I'm saying. Can we listen to Elvis? And then also, I don't know if we should watch Woody Allen films. Oh, I don't. That's like Amy going on not listening to Ryan Allen. I can't think of one. Lunch is like, I'm giving up Woody Allen. I'm like, yeah. He's a weirdo, Pervo. But, you know, I don't know that I've ever seen a Woody Allen movie. I can't think of one.

I never saw that. He seems to be so popular. No, that wasn't him. It's him and it is. Okay. I'm going to read the Stephen Tyler story. It's Kevin Spacey, though. Oh, he's in it, yeah.

Oh, I mean, yeah, now it's like, what can't we watch anymore? I don't think I've seen a Woody Allen movie either. No, look at his movies. What's like the top one, lunchbox? Well, I mean, from 2023, it's Cotuzhou to Johns. Never heard of that one. Yeah, Rifkin's Festival, a rainy day in New York. I don't know any of these.

Stephen Tyler's own words could be used as evidence against him as he faces, sexual allegations in court. He was formally named in the lawsuit that was initially filed. It was filed after new California legislation created a window for survivors of sexual abuse to come forward. Julia, Missley, Holcomb, alleged. alleges in the 70s she was 16. Let me try to find the information about it.

Tyler had secured, allegedly secured guardianship over her when she was a minor, I think so she could travel with him. In the suit, she alleged that Tyler groomed, exploited. She reportedly accounts several details in how she met Tyler in 1973, an aerosmith condor. She was 16, he was 25. After the show, he allegedly took her back to the hotel, did stuff, allegedly.

they were together for about three years. In 1974, the suit alleges Tyler convinced her mom to grant him guardianship so he'd be able to live and travel with her with ease of that criminal prosecution. He also told Blank's mother he'd support the teenager and helper access health care and education.

The suit alleges he didn't follow through and he said he continued to travel with, assault, provide alcohol and drugs to the plaintiff. I mean, like he had guardians of a 16-year-old. That's so weird. Yeah, absolutely. And like back in the six, 60s, two, 50s and 60s, they would sing songs about,

she's 16, she's beautiful, and she's mine. They're like adults singing that crap. That's so weird. Young girl, get out of my mind. Yeah. But what about the parents letting her go? Like, what is wrong with you? Because it was more, everyone had that, not everyone.

But I think, like they're saying, like, that's, it was more acceptable. Well, there's also like, oh, security for my daughter. Yeah. She goes with this rich man. Yes. Okay. I mean, if you're... Well, I would agree it does seem bizarre for parents.

But also, I don't know what the circumstances were in anybody's life. All I know is that if he's an adult and she's 16, that's bad. Apparently he wrote about it in his memoir. He did. What? And he just said, oh, yeah, man, I was in love or what? Let me read his quote. Yeah.

He said, I went and slept at her parents' house for a couple nights and her parents fell in love with me, signed over papers to have me have custody so I wouldn't get arrested if I took her out of state. Wow. I think everybody sucks. Man, I mean, I just, like... Okay. That's like Amy's daughter going on the road with a 25-year-old right now. That's crazy.

Like, would you, you'd be like, what is wrong with you? Yeah, no, that would not be, okay. Just want to get me started about my daughter right now? Oh. Not about that. I just have to be, like... What a weird way to jump in with that. No, I know.

No, I love her. It's just like parenting can be hard sometimes. It's not that. Amen, Amy. I heard it was easy. It's, well... I watched TikTok. They were like, it's so easy.

Yeah. Well, I think it's just sometimes you want to believe that your children are more mature than they are. And then you realize that their executive function and their ability to think about long-term implications is minimal. And you're like, how does this not make sense to you? But you realize, like, their brain really doesn't comprehend it, you know? Yes. And then it's scary because it's like, I just think sometimes we just put so much trust in our kids.

And I'm not even, I'm speaking like I'm throwing a wide net of what parents have to deal with, especially once they get to that 17, 18 year old age, which my daughter's going to be 18 in April. So it just gets tricky. Because she's definitely still going to be under my roof, but yet society's trying to tell her. She's an adult. Oh, man. Okay, yeah, but your brain's not fully developed until you're 25. and it's very obvious at times, you know, and then, you know.

An educated statement. Probably like most 16, 17-year-old girls. Yes, yes. I'm not dealing with anything abnormal. It's just a reminder of... Yeah, it doesn't mean it's less difficult. Yeah, I think that at times there is such growth, and then we believe like, oh, wow, look at this.

And then there's, you know, you give an inch, they take a mile. Yeah. Ain't that the truth. Ain't that the truth. Like my parents would say that all the time. I'm like, that's so dumb. Now I'll say it all the time. You guys did that cut.

No, we did. Oh, yes, it's just a reminder of like that, like, I can't, I also want to understand a teenager's perspective and where they're coming from. And I, it's sometimes it's frustrating how they can't see the bigger picture. But it's like literally that part of their brain. isn't developed. Like, I can't expect it to be understood. My wife does that with me sometimes.

Yeah. Oh, my brain is not developed in certain areas. Yeah. And I'm just like, let me grow. You're a grown man. In some parts. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like, yeah.

Well, we're sorry. You're dealing with that. No, no, no. I'm not, I'm just, just little, little, hey, parents, if you're going through it, got you. We're the same. You're not alone. Blah, blah, blah.

A little lighter example. Stay calm. Stay calm. say stay stay calm like i didn't you know you don't think about like oh i've got to teach him everything like like like amy said you'd assume that they would know certain things that you wouldn't have to teach them or whatever but mine is not deep it's very simple but like my son was like i'm going to go wash my car so he went to the car wash two hours later he comes back and the car is not washed and i'm like what what happened like where why is your car not wash he's like oh i don't know the thing

wasn't working. Like, the car wash wasn't working. And I don't know, like, what do you do? Do you put money in it? Like, how do you? No one has told you how a car wash works. Father problem, you didn't teach him. So that's what I'm saying. I'm like, man, I should have at some point in my life take him to a car wash and been like, all right, you put your money here. Probably out doing something. It sounds like he was doing something else. And he just forgot to wash the car. It was like it's cover. No. You think he sat there were two hours staring at the machine? I mean, have you met my son. Dude, he was out with his friends. No, he wasn't. Yes, he was. Oh, my goodness. How stupid are you? This is what I'm talking about. He's not understanding the... Guys, I have Life 360. I know where he was.

But I'm not saying he wasn't doing something at the car wash. Oh, they all met at the car wash and left his phone there? No, they could have all met at the car wash. I could have been their hangout. At one o'clock in the afternoon? Yes. Dude, Sonic, Walmart parking lot, car watch. That's where they're smoking cigarettes at the car wash? No, they're vaping. That's what they're doing. They are vaping. They're moving on.

No. I almost would rather, I'd be like, look, it's, if you're going to try it, try a cigarette. I never thought that word would come out of my mouth. But like, if you're curious, because vaping, it's so much, it's just worse. Try this crack. No, don't. I mean, if you're going to do it, do it.

Here's some aluminum foil. Now watch. No, no, no, no. This is called methamphetamine. But it's just like, golly, I got to find some good documentaries on some, subjects and stuff and we got to sit down and just really have them. We think that'll work? Oh, I think like my son movies speak to him. So for me, I'm like,

ooh, I'm going to show him this movie. Like, oh, you want to, like, you want to lure him in to think he chooses what movie to watch to learn from. If you're forcing anything on anybody, it is going to feel like forced education. Oh, no, I'm not going to be forced movie night, popcorn. Yeah, movie night, chocolate. Just a short film on human trafficking. Oh, yes, there's some good movies on that. Well, you mean educational. No, like, yeah, impactful movies.

Yes, impact. But also good ones, like Taken? Taken's a good one. That's a good movie. And you'll enjoy that. But also, you have to like... Takens a little dated. Like, I need updated with technology

and how dangerous some stuff online is and how we need to understand. Also, how things online live forever. you know it's like Have you seen anything lately on that? On what?

On social media stuff Like doesn't Black Mirror have some like bad social media? Oh on social media itself I like should have my traffic on no no no Yeah well that's where I mean Oh yeah Like TikTok like things

That's where people They swoop in And they can start Like conversations and seems innocent And then again When you don't have that executive function You think oh

well, it's this, blah, blah, blah. And then next thing you know, you're in a situation that you're like, how did I get here? And it's like, oh. A question about executive function. A lot of that has to be developed through doing it wrong, though, right? Because anytime you ever try to teach me anything, I'll be like, I'll figure it out.

You don't know what you're talking about. I do it now. Like, probably not all, but a lot of executive function is forced learning, meaning through experience. Yeah. Because somebody can tell you things a hundred times. but until you do it and not even just generally in life it isn't an actual learned

well some of it some of it starts early on we don't realize like it's just happening like you you're so it's it's over time i think where what i expect her to have at times is uh like good decision making skills and uh problem solving and and and again full comprehension of like the consequences that that's where she hasn't fully developed that yet and maybe she will i hope not through certain experiences but that is how some of us tend to learn better but they do say i remember from when my kids were at the orphanage for every three months that a kid lives in an orphanage they are one month developmentally behind so if you add up all those months like because my kids lived there for years and then you kind of figure out where they are and they're actually

actual developmental age. And so then I also have to factor in that because not only is a normal 17 year old not fully developed, but then there's we're behind as well. Although we catch up rapidly at times on certain things. But yeah, I agree with you, Bobby. Some of it could be. Don't you feel like too that she's like overdeveloped in some areas too because she had to live in a situation where there were parts of her that had to survive, yeah, mature and

extreme levels because of survival? I do think that, yes, there are certain survival type instincts that she has because of that, that I might not necessarily have because I wasn't in the same situation or her brain. Speaking of problem solving, the thing is she may have that developed a particular problem solving skill because of her environment, but because she doesn't have, well, I don't even want to talk about her specifically. That sounds so negative. So any kid, they may because of their environment, but then they don't have the ability to really understand if that's right, wrong, or wise. Like, okay, so you do that on my way.

You know, you have, you did develop that, but like now you, now you, part of your brain should be like, oh, this probably isn't the wise way to go about this, even though. Yeah, I don't have that yet. Well, you, come on, you do. Some. Some. A little bit. Yeah, yeah. I'm not, my kids are, my kids are great.

I think it's just as parents, really to put a bow on what I was trying to say is I think sometimes we even grow them up faster and think they're ready for certain things. And then we realize like, oh, we're not there yet. And that's okay. And then we just need to be patient. Well, to put a bow on that, I don't think you ever get there. I don't think that's a there. I don't think there's ever a there.

Well, eventually I have to surrender it over. I'm not going to be in control of her life. Sure. But, I mean, I don't think you do that. you get there. I don't think there is it there. I think general and human nature, we always think there's some place to get.

True, true. To figure it out. It doesn't have to be parenting. It can be anything. There is no such place. Yes, I agree with that. You're never there. You're never there.

But there's different, you know, markers. There's different markers that you reach. Little milestones. Yeah. It's a journey. Or are they artificial? Life's a dance. You learn as you go.

Amen. Sometimes you leave. We can listen to him. Sometimes you follow. Yeah. He didn't do anything. No. Not that we know of.

Yeah. I was trying to think of my list to a mark off there. Anybody else do anything bad? I don't know, man. I don't think about this stuff we can't listen to anymore. Bad, bad. Or unless people just can fully separate art from artists. And if someone said yes, I can do that.

I mean, the music I'm listening to is not doing anything bad. It's not hurting anyone. Right. Does it make them money? Makes somebody money. But that artist, not always, right? Like Michael Jackson's dead guys. So he doesn't make money from it?

He's the wealthiest dead guy, too. Or high-stowning. Was he number one? I don't remember number one. No, we just talked about it. It might have been. Might have been. Let me run a few voicemails, and I have to go to go to, I'm going to Fayetteville

today for just a few hours. Okay, let's go, Ray, let's do Tara in Richmond, Virginia. I was riding a train, a two-hour train ride, and I was sitting in the quiet section. and I was listening to your show and I almost got in trouble. I had to act like I was coughing because I was actually laughing.

So I thought about I'm going to call the show and give the note to listeners. Do not listen to the show sitting in the quiet section of anywhere or anything. Thank you all for being so funny. Have a good one.

I appreciate that. Thank you very much. I don't know there was a quiet section on a train. Dude, where we miss living in the South trains or west or even mid. It's just, if you live in the Northeast, the trains are amazing. Yeah.

Because you can get on a train. You live in Boston. You want to go up to Maine, New Hampshire, New York, Philadelphia. You just get on a freaking train. It's not Choochoo Train. Growing up, they're only Choochoo Chene. I lived in a mill.

I lived in a town where we had a mill. And that wasn't a Choochoo. That was like a freight train. That's what we think of trains. Are these Amtraks or like kind of those style trains? Yeah. It feels like an airplane? I don't know if they're,

all Amtrak specific, so, but yes, you sit in it, you put your little table down. You just chill. I've taken that train. It's, taking that train. One time, because I thought it would be really awesome when I lived in North Carolina. It seemed so nostalgic to me. And we took the train from Southern Pines, North Carolina to Washington, D.C. And it was pretty, pretty miserable.

Oh, it was? Yeah. I was like, I mean, to Bobby's point, I guess when you're higher up and you're kind of closer, maybe it's like an hour to train ride. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. This was like hours. Ooh, ooh, and guess what? I remember what we did, which we would not have been able to do to this day.

So it was me and Ben. Listen to R. Kelly. No, but we watched the Cosby show to entertain us. And now I would be like, who knows? At that point. I don't know. It was so good. I probably came on.

I'd probably still watch it. No, you don't think so? No. No, he's bad bad. Can I separate art from artist? Yeah, but you're watching him. That's different. Maybe.

But it's like, God. Isn't it crazy? He's not even in prison? He's out of prison. But he's also 100. It doesn't matter. It's like, but also what pissing him on. He got to enjoy abusing people for so long.

Yeah. Before he went to jail. Like, that sucks. It's like the Zodiac killer. Man, that guy. Like, they don't even know. They kind of think they know now, but he just lived in, killed and died.

Have you watched some of that on Netflix? No, I've just read about it. Well, yeah, there's a new thing that's up. And I've only seen, well, my daughter was watching it, Sue. I've only seen bits and pieces. And I'm like, maybe I shouldn't let her watch that. But there's these kids, and they're talking about times that they were like with him. They're adults now.

But they don't for sure know who it is. Yeah, but they have. They never captured. No, he's dead. Yeah, but... They think now they have a really great idea of who... Right. There's one person they've dialed in on,

but there's also like a couple others where they're like, I don't know, could be him! But really, it's one... And he was just like dicking with them, like sending them letters. Crazy. With the, like the feds, he was messing with him? Yeah. What time frame was this? Like, when did...

80s, 90s? What? I think it maybe was a little bit before that, because, yeah, the people that looked to be interviewed... Late 60, 70. Okay, yeah. So they were way older, but they would be like, yeah, yeah, there's this time. He took us to the beach, and then he disappeared for a couple hours,

and he came back, and it was this, and they were like, I think that's when he did this and committed that, like, and they were like, we were just kids. Like, we were in the car, you know? I don't know. It's weird. To like look back on your life and be like... The person that got in the car with Ted Bundy was able to get out,

but we know Ted Bundy was Ted Bundy was Ted Bundy. Yes. But that's Odeo Killer stuff, dude. He got to live his whole life and then die. Oh. Just doing all that. Yeah. No punishment.

I just got to enjoy it. Back to the trains. I got to go on a second. Are there like, can you eat there? Yes. Yes. It's not the most formal fine dining. Yeah, which is what I had in my mind when I was going from North Carolina to D.C.

It was going to, like I took an outfit and then it was, no, it was powdered eggs and not great. Oh. I think Amy thought she was living in the 1800s. I did. Whenever that was like the best way to travel. The way. She's really knocking down my train. I love it.

I wish we had it. I agree. Just get on and get somewhere and not to worry. It's just a straight shot to these cities. And then you get to the city, you just take Uber to wherever you go. That's cool. You can get back to the train station. Yeah.

I was just ignorant on what the experience was going to be like, and I had different expectations. If I had had realistic expectations and I understood how it was these days and not the 1800s, then I would have been. Amy showed up in one of those big towns where it's like the waist is so poofy, the hoop under it. She thought it was a Titanic. I'm here to get on the train. He's like fanning her face with one of those fans. The Chattanooga? Yeah.

Is this a Chattanooga, Choochoo? I was like, Ben, take the collared shirt for the dining cart. You're in 3C. Sit down. I was like,

oh, this is really, yeah, people are taking this train from Florida to D.C. That's a long, long way. You know,

it's just more affordable. When we went from Boston to New Hampshire, it took like 50 minutes. See, but that's cool. That is cool. This was a,

this was not. My agent lives in D.C. And goes to New York. two, three times a week. Just going to train. That's cool. See, I could do that life. All right, give me number three, Ray.

The people that do come through, like, call in, and even the regular call-ins, do they have, like, some special number that they call to get through? Because I can never get through. P.S., I still have not found my keys that I lost. My car is parked at work. It'll be at least four days before I can get some. sort of arrangement to try to get a second

key made for my car. Anyway, I love the show. Thank you very much. Hope you find your keys. And there is no special number. P.S. P.S. Maybe I can't listen Aerosmith now. Because of that story.

Or Elvis. I mean, what are we going to do, man? No music for us anymore? Man, that Elvis movie really tripped me up on him. Yeah. Ugh. You know, I only have... That's just generally famous people.

guys. If you're famous young, you're just effed up. And it doesn't give you any more right to be awful. But all I'm saying is, there are more awful people than you think that are famous. There's some awful ones here in town. Golly. Like who? Give me number four, A?

Bobby was doing a giveaway on Instagram. Like, if you go like his new YouTube channel, then you could win $100 if you screenshot it and send it to him. And I won, so I just want to say, Thank you, Bobby, for that extra blessing of $100. Thank you. You're welcome.

That's cool. Yeah, it's just, it used to be the Bobby Cash channel. But then I was putting so much content on there that wasn't Bobby Cash. We just turned it to the Bobby Bones channel because we're doing some sports stuff that we do too. And so we started it so late. And I was like, for 10 days, I'll give everybody $100. Just randomly, we'd pick somebody and just send out $100. So it cost me $1,000.

Yeah. But I'm glad someone called it and actually won because I think I would wonder, is he really giving away that money? I thought she was going to say, like, I haven't got my money. yet. I send it to them before I post it. They've won it. Because I'll post on my story who won. And you're making sure you're sending it to the right. I double check. They send me

their Venmo name and I double check. And then I send a shot of me binmoing it to them. Okay. That's it. We have to go. I have to go. I am speaking and asking questions today to the president at the University of Arkansas.

They're doing this massive billion dollar scholarship initiative and they've asked me to come out and kind of lead that today. So that's where I am going. Cool. I will be back. Did you say billion? I believe so.

A billion. Or hundreds of millions or billion or something. That number I should know because if I just get out, we got a billion dollars, we're giving away. But they've asked me to come because it helps a lot of students that have backgrounds like I had. And that's why they want him to come out and lead it and sit with the president and talk. So I'm going to do that. Basketball not playing tonight? The Arkansas not playing tonight?

I did not believe so. We'll play Picklewall today at 3. Do you want to play? Oh, really? At 3? Yeah, I'd love to. Okay. We'll play at 3.

I'll be back by 3. I'll be like 2.30. Don't play at 3. You don't play tonight. You play tomorrow. Yeah. Against Troy. Should be a good one.

Eggman? No, just Troy. Troy. Troy Aitman's buddies? Okay, thank you guys. We will see you tomorrow. And that is all. Bye, everybody.

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