The Bobby Bones Show - Wed Part 2: Terri Clark On Why She Turned Down Playboy + Tipping Etiquette

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

Terri Clark is in the studio talking about her new duet's album, Take Two, and reveals why she turned down an offer from Playboy and more! Then, Morgan wants to know if you're supposed to tip more if it's already included in the bill...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcast. This school of Massachusetts has 454 students in this one class, 8th-ready class, and they have 24 sets of twins. Wow. Whoa. Something in the water there. What the heck? They have 24 sets of twins out of 454 students. 10% of the classes are twin.

I wonder how many of those are, that just runs in their family or their IVF? Oh, that's a good question. Well, if any of that's the case. It's still wild. That's an abnormal amount of twins. We had these twins in high school and like, we always got it mixed up. Like, everyone would call the wrong twin by the wrong name. Like, I wonder if that's the problem at this school.

Yes, it's got to be. For sure, Jim. No, Tim, I'm sorry. But I mean, all the twins don't look alike, Eddie. It's not like all the twins looking like every other one of the twins. The two that we had in our school did. No, but I'm saying twins look alike, but they're not looking like the other twins. Other sets of twins. No, no, I know, but you know, you mess up one set of

twins. I'm sure you mess up with the other sets of twins. Yeah, that's true. Because like, Pam and Julie. That's not true. You guys are just saying words. But also, what's cool about this is it leads to opportunity for twins dating twins. Like, that'd be fun. That's like some inbred types. Can you imagine you see them holding hands down the hall? And they start, they're switching it like, oh, they hold the wrong hand? It's like, oh, wait, I'm Tim. No, that's Jim. That's from 25 new now. my family Not a lot of twins

I guess no twins But you know We have a weird family tree In that my mom And her sister married My biological dad and his brother So it's two sisters No not Arkansas

It's not embryo Although I do get that a lot But our family tree is very much No branches Wow Anybody Any of my cousins We're all related to the same people

There's no other sides of the family That's wild So it's again My mom And her sister married my biological dad and his brother. So I have double cousins. My cousins are cousins on both sides.

So anybody they're related to, I'm also related to. There's no other way around it. Wow. I wonder if we have more matching DNA than normal cousins. We have to, right? I don't know. Because we get it up double, both sides. It's not inbred.

It's nothing about Arkansas. It's close, though. My sister, we went to Arkansas when we went to Arkansas when we were younger, like, family road trip to visit our aunt and uncle. And our cousin there became kind of like a kissing cousin with my sister. I don't know if we don't have to do Arkansas kissing cousins.

No, this is nice. That's Arkansas. We were from Texas. They was in Arkansas. You guys are haters. No, no, he was really cute. Like, I get it. And we didn't realize.

No, but everything has to be Arkansas relatives making out. Go ahead. I was going somewhere with that. Like, we didn't really know him. So it's sort of just like was a thing. But I get it. it. They weren't as, like, yours would be

closer to you. Like, we were more removed. So you definitely couldn't have a kissing cousin. No. You're double cousin. No, I hear you. But also, you could have just said your sister had a cousin. You had to go to Arkansas. Where I'm from. No, I remember the whole drive back. She listened to that

song, it must have been love. Was it her first cousin? But it's over now. Hey, only in Arkansas. No, no. That segment does not get to happened on the show. No, I think it was kind of like, dang, we're cousins. Like, this isn't going to go anywhere. I don't even think they really kissed, but you know,

there was like an attraction. First cousins? Yeah. Oh, that's bizarre. But we didn't know him. Doesn't matter, Amy. Well, we didn't know him. You're still related if you know them or not. That's why on the way back, she was like, it must have been love, but it's over now because we're cousins, you know? What in the world? This is crazy. Okay, let's say you meet your cousin and you never met him your whole life and you fall in love. do you marry them?

Well, I mean... Well, do you find out? What state? Your cousin. Well, no. No. The state doesn't matter. When do you find out they're your cousin? The thing is back in the day, this was a thing.

What do you mean? When do you find out? Because if you get married and then you find out, you're five years married, divorce. You do? It's over. What? Okay, hold tight. I would say... You've already done it all.

Just let it be. We have kids too? Yeah. They don't have tails, though. Okay, here's the thing. Well, I'd be bad. Let's say you date for... You don't know them at all.

your parents are families estranged and you finally like run to them oh we're cousins wow first cousins you fall in love right then can you date no no no yeah if you'd had no relationship prior and your parents family that they don't they don't have a relationship

no that's okay no it's a bloodline because you don't know just think of how easy the wedding will be because you don't have to decide like oh no sides right exactly everyone we have friends but yeah who you're here for oh my cousins I think we're to a point now where that's not what we do.

We don't marry our cousins. But again, what if you fell in love and didn't know they were, okay, what if, again, you fall in love, you don't know they're your cousin? You do a 23 of me or whatever, ancestry or whatever it is. And it's like, you're first cousins. And you're in love, you're engaged. You're engaged. Done. Call it off.

Yeah, it's probably not happening. No, guys. I think you're overreacting. I think you keep it together. I think if you're engaged and you already have a lot. What have you met at a family reunion and you've never met them and you're 28 years old and she's 25? And you've never met and you meet at a family reunion. You're like, hey, you know what?

Let's look and see if first cousins, if that is like, first of all, is it legal to marry your first cousin? Yeah, didn't Rudy Giuliani do you want to Google that. This is history of something. Didn't Rudy Giuliani marry his first cousin? I don't know. All that stuff, I forget. Allegedly. He's, I don't really mind whatever we say about him. In Tennessee, where we are.

It's legal for cousins to marry. See? A new bill would change that. Legal for cousins. How about, is it legal to marry your cousin's federal? Federal law? I mean, that would mean national law. I mean, why are we bringing the law into this?

Let's just, would you do it? First cousin marriage remains completely legal in these 17 states. Alabama, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, New York, New Mexico, North Carolina. Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont, and Virginia. Hey, no Arkansas. There's suckers. All right.

Did you skip one? No, I sure didn't. They don't even need a law about it. It's just whatever. Yeah, they'd arrest the whole city. It's an unwritten rule, man. You don't have room for that in the prisons. You guys are haters, and I hate all of you too.

They make a map that shows where you can marry your cousin. Like, go to this state to marry them? 24 states prohibit marriages between first cousins. Seven states allow first cousin marriages with conditions, such as genetic counseling or if the partner is sterile. Oh, yeah, because you can't procreate.

What does it mean when someone's once or moved? That's second cousin. Yeah. Oh, well, it says first cousins once are moved. Does that mean second cousin? I don't know. I never understand when people speak that way, so. Me either.

Okay, so let's say you, on your wedding day, you find out that that's your first cousin. Yeah. Before you get married, before the idos? Before, yeah. Oh, yeah. And your wedding day. What? Over.

You just say I'm out. Yeah, I'm not doing this. can't do this. We're cousins. Yeah. And hopefully she agrees. It's just one of those things. You're not going to be able to get over. No, I'm down.

I'm down. I'm down. I'm down. Well, Bobby, I expect that. Lunchbox, what's? I just don't, I think you guys are overreacting. I think they're overreacted to her. You're crazy. Yeah. And, okay, fine.

Caitlin's my cousin. Whoa. I set this whole segment up to reveal that. Okay, you guys are haters. And I like to shout out to everybody in Arkansas. I love you. You know who loves you. You know who doesn't?

These three. Don't ever let them come in your state. We just josh. Yeah, yeah. Top regrets in your life that are still on your mind. Already a couple here. I'll ask you guys that question. Top regrets of your life that you still think about sometimes.

Number one, spending too much time on your phone, not prioritizing life moments. Number two, losing touch with friends, past and present. Number three, not standing up to bullies during childhood and even work. If you guys don't have one, I can go first. Do you have one? Yeah, I have them. Go ahead. Yeah, I think.

You said them. You have multiple? Oh, go ahead. Well, a big one, because I've lost both my mom and my dad, there's just so many conversations I never had with them. And it's a huge regret. And if they were around, I know there's very specific things. I would ask them, I would talk to them about,

and I wouldn't be so shy or nervous. Like, I think I didn't want to ask them to dig a little bit deeper, but I think it would have been beneficial for everybody. Like, Fox? Yeah, I think about, like, chicks. Like, okay, so I'm in a bar, and I make out with, you know, there's two chicks, and I'm like, oh, which one I choose A for the night instead of B. And I'm like, ah, man, should I have gone with B?

Or tried A and B. You ever think about that? Oh, I thought about that, but they didn't know each other's they weren't down. You know, things like that. So it's just like, ah, man. Eddie? I still think about it. I mean, not starting a 401K much, much, much earlier in my life. You haven't even started one now. No, no, but for me, I feel like it's. Then why don't start today?

I feel like it's too late. It's not. Dude, if I would have started at 20, 21? Oh, my goodness, I'd be rich. In 10 years, you're gonna go, I wish I would have started when I was 45. Right. That's a good point.

You could have started it a year ago when we started talking about this at all. I wish I'd have bought more than video. You know what? I regret that too. Okay. I think mine is probably not, when my grandma was sick, I just thought she'd live forever,

which is a dumb thing to think. But my grandma raised me, and I was in college, and it wasn't like an easy drive home. And I was like, eh, I'll do it occasionally, but I just didn't do it enough. And so I regret that. because when she got sick, she got sick, and then, you know, she died pretty quick.

And I had to, it's crazy, because I know we talk about this, I had to deal with my grandma. And I was like, hey, when you die, you have to like, and she was like way older. My mom was the youngest of, like, many, many kids. And so my grandma was way older than like a normal grandma as well. And I was like, I'm talking about it. I was like, when you die, you have to like give me a sign that you're still out there. And I don't think she gave me a sign. What's up?

Talk about it. No, I think the air conditioner came on and like her old guitar fell at some, but I'm saying. You said give me a sign. Yeah, but what are you saying that you would have been, you wish you would have been more specific? Yeah. I wish I'd have been like, make a musical instrument fall over when you die. I just, that way you would know. Yeah.

So that my regret there is that. Otherwise, I, I, I, I, most things that I am not happy about what happened, I've learned great lessons from them. They've actually led to even better decisions. When I got to find a million bucks by the FCC, I'll learn nothing from that. So I wish that wouldn't have happened. But I can't really regret how I did it because I didn't do anything wrong unless they're listening. Sorry.

But I regret that that happened. Yeah, I regret that that happened. Next up, let's, listen, if you're FCC, you guys are cool. They're listening. You guys are cool. In line with that, I'll just share something really quick that, you know, my niece is living with right now and she's 21 and she wrote a high school paper on living. without regret and she based it off my mom. And she said that she learned that when my mom was

dying, one of the things she said was that she didn't live out her dreams. And so I think that's a big regret. Sometimes not taking time to dream and then chase your dreams, whatever they are. But my mom just didn't take time to even dream for herself. And I promise everybody listening right now, you're going to regret more things you didn't try than more things you tried and failed and did wrong. Right. Because you're always going to be like, I wish I would have at least tried this. I've screwed up a lot of things. I messed up a lot of things. I don't regret any of that stuff. because at least I gave it a run but I just would not

feel good about not trying. The stuff you don't try, it's stuff you're going to hate that you didn't do. Not the stuff you did wrong. Unless you murder. Oh, yeah. That's a bad thing. Don't try that. You can, people are reserving baby names

within a friend group now. So people are like calling dibs on baby names. You can't do that. Well, I mean, you can. Well, it's not legal, but yes, you can have an agreement amongst friends. Weird. People are talking about baby names, and they claim them within a friend group.

if they want it so another friend doesn't like undercut them with the name. But isn't it like whoever has the baby first? Well then get to it. But unless it's called, it's like shotgun. Drew. Okay. Shotgun never really, really worked. Oh, it did work.

There was spitz fights over shotgun. There was only trouble with deciphering what the rules were as soon as you said you're going or when you could see the car or when you could touch the car. Everybody had different rules. But shotgun always worked. You could always say it in here you say shotgun.

But it doesn't matter what you heard. Anybody else here? I know. My kids still play it and I have to be the judge. They'll be like, Mom, did you hear me say it first? And unfortunately,

I have to be like, yeah, okay, she said it first. Shotgun is really one of the great things about being an American. Still around. Most people adhere to shotgun. Yeah. Paralyzed puppy walks again

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Say what they needed and got it. Love it. It's in the New York Post. Technology, man, it's pretty cool. Digital price tags are coming to Walmart. So here's why it's good. Here's why it's bad. Digital price tags are cool because,

let's say the price tag isn't on it. For some reason, it got ripped off, or you can save it in your phone. You can take a picture of it too. But why they're bad is people think they do dynamic pricing with them. What is? I don't know what digital price tag is. Because the price tag, it's a QR code, right?

So you put the QR code, you see how much the things are. You can have a QR code on the tag. But what's up is if a bunch of them starts to sell, they could start to lift the price of them because it's not paper you're having to replace. It's literally if we sell 32% of them, let's mark it up $5. I wonder, too, if they know, like, you're like, how much you have? Like, ooh, this guy's rich.

Mark it up. No. Hey. You know what I mean? Nothing would surprise me at this point. But that's a funny thought that they're also part of the big brother and looking in your bank account and pricing it based on who you are. It's like the next level.

That's the next level. They have access to your money and they're like. Or when you walk in, they automatically know who you are and what you have by like your facial scan. Dang. Yeah, they followed you from the bank and they know. They don't even fly you from the bank. They just know your face. There's no physical tracking.

On the Bobbycast Drew Baldridge is on I'm telling you I walked away from this going I'm motivated and inspired by this dude Here's a clip of his song She's somebody's daughter She's somebody's dog

He put the song out over three years ago And his record label fell apart And that was it no more But he puts it on TikTok And he Not even a big TikToker And it goes Next morning he wakes up

And he's like wait what On our honeymoon I post a TikTok And I just say hey If this gets 3,000 likes I'll put it out on Friday, you know, just trying to tease. It was Wednesday. I woke up Thursday and had almost 10 million views.

Mind you, I'm like, I don't look all night because I haven't had a video do that. You know, I'm just thinking like, I'm going to wake up the next day. Obviously, I'm with my wife. It's our honeymoon. We're enjoying that. And I wake up and I look at her and I'm like, wow. And I pulled it up and my followers jumped like 100,000. So he had this song from three years ago, but he's like, I'll put out a wedding version of it.

I just got married. And so he gets 10 million in a night, which is wild. So you're like, dang, look at that. Blew up, pretty cool story. So then he's like, no record label is going to sign him. They're like, eh, I don't know. So then he just starts going to everybody's backyard. Like, I'll play any backyard to make money in order to get his career going.

Here's this clip. I decide to post on socials and I say, I'll play in anybody's backyard that wants to have me. I'm broke. Yeah, I feel you. And so I thought I'd get like five requests. And so I get like 20-some thousand requests on TikTok. For two years, I go play 300 people's backyard. Wow.

Just me and a guitar. Just take whatever money they gave you? Yeah, it started off that way. Like, hey, whatever you could give me. And then I was like, this is what I need because there was sometimes I would lose on it. And so I'd be like, this is what I really need. Two or three grand to pay for my name, my tour manager. And I will come play in your backyard for 75 minutes, play cornhole, eat barbecue.

He did that 300 times all over the country. Oh, my goodness. Took his guitar and played in people's backyards. So he could survive being. That's amazing. That's not a lot of days off, man. So he then talked about how even now, he has a song, it's maybe in close to top 10. He has no record label, no management, no.

agent. He's having to finance everything himself. I had to put on a manager hat and be like, okay, how do I get shows? How do I create income? And then I had to run a promo staff. I'm doing a calls every Monday, running a promo team. And then like shows coming in and booking that and booking it myself. And you know, what's most exciting, Bobby is like being on this podcast with you, man, is a really big deal and a dream of mine. I think I'm your biggest fan. I'm going to tell you. I was blown away by the dude. God, that's so cool. He's like buying radio commercials for his song. He's doing it all himself because he doesn't have a team, but it's all blown up.

And he's like, screw it. I'll go play backyards. I'll do it all myself. That's nobody else wants to help. Chase and dreams. But he just is a guy who was like, I'll figure out a way to do it. Even if it's really hard, I'm going to keep going until I absolutely can't. And he has now popped.

Wow. Super cool. Check out the Bobbycast. That entire interview with Drew Baldridge is up on the Bobbycast, wherever you listen to your podcast. That's the news. Those were Bobby's big. Stories.

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

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earn your leisure is the podcast for you. Listen to Earn Your Leisure on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Terry Clarkson studio, good to see you again. We didn't know each other until you came over to the house. I really enjoyed that. don't always enjoy them. I did too. It felt like a really intense therapy session part of that. It was really great. I rarely don't enjoy them, but you know, with anything else, it'd be like a show that you do. You don't hate doing shows, but some of them just fall in and you're just like, you just do a show.

And it was good and you move on. But I like really enjoyed the time, I guess because I was a fan of you for a long, long time and didn't know you. And some, that can go either way when you meet somebody. Yeah. Are they going to be? you know, what you think they are, or are they going to be what they are? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I enjoyed meeting you too. You know, I'm a fan of yours, and I have a radio show, and you tend to kind of want to listen to people

and their conversational skills when they're interviewing people, and you're one of those people that I think, a lot of artists are starting to dabble in radio now, you know. Like podcasting radio, yeah. But you're good at it. Well, thank you very much. But you're, you know, there's a reason you're winning all these awards, and stuff. So congratulations. And I really enjoyed our last chat. So when they said we were coming back, now we can actually talk about the record. We couldn't remember. Remember the publicity people were all like,

no, they were giving us the whole windmill thing going. I didn't think that was weird. It was like, hey, Terry Clark's coming over, but she can't talk about anything. Right. But we still felt a lot to talk about. Wonder what we're going to do. We talked about childhood baggage instead. So how I found out about your record is one of my best dear friends, Ben Rector, said, hey, I'm going to go record. Terry Clark, do you know her? And at the time, I didn't. And I was like, I don't know her, but I'm a fan of her. Let me know how it goes.

And he came back and he was like, she was delightful. That was his description of you, delightful. So you got a lot of artists to come back and sing your big songs. What's that problem? I don't know. How do you pick? Does everybody say yes? Sometimes does they not sing it exactly like you want?

Like, what does that process like? Well, I started with kind of a, you know, a little. list of my wish list of people. And I called Ashley McBride first and we've been friends since 2017. So she said yes and jumped on board and I wanted her to do better things to do because it was the debut single. And she had publicly talked about how much that debut album meant to her when she was a kid growing up in Arkansas and how she, you know, she felt like she was different than the rest of the girls. And she would, you know, she was a tomboy and she saw my image and really got into the music in it. And it helped her feel like she belonged, I guess.

And so her singing on better things to do was a natural fit to me. And then after Ashley agreed, you know, when you get one, it's kind of easier to start going, well, Ashley McBride's doing this. Did you go to Laney Wilson? You'd be crazy not to do it if Ashley's going to do it. Well, yeah. Ashley is like, she is amazing. And she's so respected around town for her songwriting and her artistry especially. It's just amazing.

So, and then I love Lainie Wilson for so many reasons. I love the fact that she's such an individual. You can recognize her by a silhouette. There aren't a lot of people that you know. You see their silhouette. You know automatically who it is. Laney Wilson's one of those people. And I loved her music.

And so I asked her... Everybody said, yes, there were only a couple... There were only a couple of people that had scheduling conflicts. It couldn't do it. But Ben Rector, I've been a fan of... We talked about him last time. And his immense talent, he's genius.

You know, he's one of those almost prodigy type guys. It's annoying. Let's say it. It's totally annoying. He's so good. It's so annoying. We could have kept the first take on now that I found you and been fine with that.

And he's just incredibly talented. And I was so happy to see him opening for Dan and Shea because he needs to be exposed to those huge audiences. My manager actually wasn't as familiar with Ben Rector until she went to their show and she texted me. And she said, man, now I know why he's on your record, why you wanted to get him on your record. She said I wasn't that familiar with him,

but I am a fan now. And that's, that's he and he was so gracious. humble, kind, and added so much to that arrangement and track. The album is called Terry Clark Take 2. I'm going to read some of the other people on it. Lauren Elena, Kelly Clarkson, Cody Johnson, Ashley McBride, Carly Pierce, Ben Rector, Lainey Wilson, and Paul Brandt. Paul is from, because our shows in Canada as well, Paul's a massive Canadian star.

He is, yeah. And we, you know, we'd never toured together. And it always made sense to me. That kind of a ticket always made sense to me. but he was always headlining and then I was headlining. And then we both kind of gave the market a bit of a break. Paul is very, very savvy businessman. He's very smart.

He knows not to overplay Canada. There are only so many venues in Canada. We don't have the population. We don't have the venues that the United States does. And I'm lucky that I can bounce back and forth, you know, across the border and play both markets. But Paul's been really careful and protected that as an artist. And I really respect his business model in doing that. So when I went to him with this idea, I said, I had just a few years earlier done a cross-Canada solo tour.

I do a lot of solo shows. I just have guitars around me. I have a ditto looper, which is a little stomp-box thing that you can create loops on. And I have a porch board, which creates kind of a kick drum. So I do this one-woman show and tell jokes and stories about songs. And it was sold out across Canada in 2016. And so I went to him with the same concept in 2018. I said, we should do this together.

Like, it just makes total sense. And fans love that intimate type of setting. So we went out in October and November last year and did, you know, BC through Ontario. And we're in talks about possibly doing another run. But it's, uh, that's cool. Yeah, that take of Easy on the Eyes was live in Toronto. We didn't go in and fix any vocal things.

We didn't go tweak a whole lot. We added bass and drums in the studio when I was in tracking the last four for take two just to give it a little lift. but what you see is what you hear is what you get. And it was fun to be able to have a live track on there and have my friend Paul be doing it with me as a duet. I don't know if this is sensitive to ask, but there was a story about Playboy asking you to be in the magazine,

but then they asked you to be fully clothed, and then you said no to all. Is that accurate? No. Okay. There's no way Playboy is going to pay me money to be fully clothed. And they're not going to pay me anything these days. but this was about 20 years ago, I would say.

And it's so stupid. That, you know, what female country singer would you like to see pose for Playboy? And I came in, I don't remember who was first and who was second, but me and Shania Twain, who could not be more polar opposite 20 years ago, especially came in top two. I don't understand why. So they came to me and offered me, I'm just going to say, a million dollars. 20 years ago, which is more like three right now. Because of inflation.

And then my manager, Clarence, I said, there's no way I'm posing. Like, meet and greets can get weird enough as it is. Can you imagine? Can you imagine they bring that in to have you sign? Oh, my gosh. And then so Clarence, this is the funniest story. Marnie, my day-to-day manager at the time, walked into my manager, Clarence Spalding's office, and she had an intern with her.

and the intern looked at his desk and he was researching. He had Playboy magazines all over his desk and on the floor. Research. He's like, who am I going to work for? But he called me and he says, well, they said, you can just show, you can go topless for like this amount of money. The whole, the full Monty, you get the full million. So he's negotiating money parts to post for Playboy. And I just said, Clarence, you know, that all sounds like if I was,

wanted a money grab. I would have done it, but I was just like, I can't. I just can't. I have too many young girls that are looking up to me. And I've always been pretty buttoned up. I'm not one of these people who's, I'm very modest about my body and, and I don't like to show all anyway. And I said, this would go against every single thing I stand for. Being a strong woman, what's between your ears is more important than what's between everything else. So I said no. And I really, glad I made that decision and it didn't let greed or the dollars, you know, get in my. And at the time, you know, I was still trying to save and, you know, I didn't know when I was going to have another hit. I always treated my last hit like it was going to be my last hit.

So I've always been pretty frugal with money and things like that. So, you know, if that's all that I had in my crosshairs, I would have gone for it. But I had, there was such a bigger picture and playing the tape forward in that scenario. and not even six months later I was asked to become a member of the Opry and I don't know that that would happen. Right? Yeah. I saw on Instagram you gave Lainey like an old school

like a vintage Terry Clark shirt. Yeah. Which is super cool. Do you have Ronnie down and I are friends and he talks about how they have all this old stuff and Kicks got a lot of it. He's like, I gave it all to Kicks when we split. So Kicks like in the early divorce

because they're back together. Kicks got a bunch of the merch. And he's like, it was the dumbest thing because that vintage merch is so valuable. Do you have a lot of your old school merch or just like a couple things? I have a couple things because I've given all my t-shirts to the artists on take two. I walked into the session with a t-shirt and, you know, my mom, you know, God bless her, would keep a lot of that old stuff.

And I even had stuff from the very first tour of 95 for a long time. And I happen to be a mover. I tend to move a lot and change the scenery around me. I buy houses and I've got a bit of an eye for design and renovation. So I seem to be kind of addicted to making a house really, really cool and then leaving it and going to doing it for another one. So I've lost a few of those little gems and moves, I think. And I may move again and end up, you know, finding some stuff in a bin that I don't know about. But I probably have like, you know, 10 left now.

Do you ever look on eBay and see what the old stuff of yours is going for? No, I don't. I have no idea. I'm a look right now. I have a feeling it's not going to be what you think. Let's see. Oh, Bobby. Terry Clark, vintage t-shirt. $42. Oh, no chance.

No chance. Well, while Bobby's loading that up, do you know where that intern is that was assigned to the Playboy magazines for you? I don't know. And Marnie's here who brought her in. I don't know where she is. I don't know if she actually left because of that. I don't know. She just, can you imagine? I have your answer here. The cheapest one that's actually vintage from the 90s. The cheapest one is $80.

Oh, wow. Well, you know, I'm going to keep them. Vintage Terry Clark shirt, poor pitiful me, 1990s. This one's extra large, $91. Wow. It's this one too. The one I gave Lainey probably. Do you remember that one? Yeah, that's the one I gave Lainey Wilson.

And I don't know if I have, I don't have any more of those. that was the only one I had in the bin and she had to pin it. It was like a dress on it. Buy it now. I'm literally buying it right now. You are not. It's that I am. Last one.

I don't wear extra large, but I'm going to have it. You can get it altered. I'm going to pin it like a dress. No, I want to wear it like a lady. Okay. And it has been paid for.

Boom. Wait until I wear it. Oh, you're so sweet. Thank you. She didn't make any money. No, I didn't make any money.

I don't make any money off it now. It's merch is a promotion tool. By the time you pay everybody, their commission. pay for the merch and pay the taxes. You have about $3 left. Did you say you don't pay taxes? You go to McDonald's.

Say you don't pay taxes? I do. I know, but you got to get it. I'm totally kidding. No, I'm totally kidding. I'm totally kidding. I'm totally kidding.

I'm totally kidding. What do you consider your big break? If you had to identify one moment and someone said, Terry, what's your big break, microphone in your face? When I went and auditioned for Mercury Records. How did you get the audition?

Well, it's such a long story. I had a demo tape floating around town. When I was playing at Tootsie's, a producer from a Popka, Florida, who did a lot of production for Disney and Epcot Center, big productions on this thing called a Sinclaviour. It's a keyboard that can mimic drums, bass, any kind of instrument you want. And he had this studio at his house in Florida. He walked in looking for a burger, and I was playing at Tootseys in the front,

you know, on the stage where it's now a VIP booth. That's where my stage was. And he sat down and listened to me for two hours and then said, I'd like to, you know, make a demo tape on you and try and get your record deal. So long story, short, I go to Florida for like a month and stay in his basement. And he had a son the same age. We won't get into that. Is there any part of you, though, that's like, this guy's watching me for two hours?

And it's like, this is weird. Yeah, well, he was observing, I guess. the, I see why, I mean, but I still the creature in its natural habitat. Why is this dude? He wants me to stay at his house. Like a little bit of me would be like, I don't know if I should do this. I think my mom obviously checked it out and interviewed him and made sure that I wasn't going to end up chopped up in pieces somewhere.

And so I did that. And we made this demo tape and he took it to a few people in Nashville, shopped it around. I wound up with a manager named Woody Bowles. And we kind of, you know, the demo was okay. It was very manufactured. factured sounding. But it caught the attention of a guy named Brian Kennedy who had a spec deal with MCA publishing where he could bring artists in and make demos, like demo masters. So he got $10,000 and

he called me and wanted to take me in and he became one of my very good friends in town. And he's also really tight with Garth Brooks and Trisha and that whole camp still is. I think he works for Garth now. But his dad was Jerry Kennedy who produced all the early Rieba stuff. So I was like, Oh my God, a Kennedy. Not those Kennedys. These, the Kennedys of Nashville. So we went in and we cut, I think, four sides. And Vince Gill came and sang on one.

And Carl Jackson played guitar. And, oh, God, we had just amazing players on this. It was super country. Keith Stigall ends up hearing this demo, like three years after we did it. It floated around town. Carl Jackson played it for a few people. And so long story, short, long. he called me to come play live for him

and he had so much going on at the time he said I want to work with you so bad but I got all these other people I'm trying to wrap some projects up and I thought that's just a no right six months later Woody calls me and says Keith Stiegel's just been promoted

to the head of ANR at Mercury Records or hired as the head of ANR at Mercury Records and he wants you to come in and sing for Luke Lewis and I had thought he'd forgotten about me so I went in with my guitar sat in the boardroom in front of him and Luke and Woody was there and I wore the most god-awful Mo Betta shirt. It looked like somebody threw up on it. It was, you know, in the 90s, the Brooks and Dungarth Brooks shirts. I still got the shirt. And they called me the next day and offered

me a record deal. And this is after I had already been in talks with Sony music, because I was a Sony tree writer at the time. And Paul Worley had gone over to Sony and he had a full roster of female so he couldn't do it. And so they offered me a full-fledged record deal. And I just, I couldn't believe it was finally happening and it was eight years after I moved to town. It was a long process. What I hear, and I think what everybody should hear is your big break was actually you grinding it out, taking advantage of a very small break turning that with your work ethic and talent into a mid break. You stayed focused.

Somebody happened. Like you were prepared when the opportunity hit. Yeah. That it wasn't like, here's a platter and here's your life. You now get to have a record deal. Yeah. It was like you worked hard and took one small thing and that just kept leading to another to another. And then before you know it, you're an overnight success.

Well, it was such a heartbreaking process because I went and sang for curb records and Electra records and Sony. You know, and they all showed interest in, you know, I even had one of them tell Woody. She's probably the most powerful country singer, female country singer I've heard in a really, really long time. But it's not what we're looking for. and there were a lot of tears you know I'd go home and my husband at the time and I would you know just be like what's it going to you know

one heartbreak after another but every door that closed another one opened and there was always like that carrot dangling that kept me focused and I just something inside told me not to give up that the right opportunity was going to come along

and when Luke and Keith signed me that was the right place for me to be and Keith Keith was Alan Jackson's producer or Randy Travis, like he got the country thing. He wasn't trying to turn me into something else. He signed me because of that. And, you know, I really appreciated the artistic freedom they gave me, especially on my fourth album that was not as mainstream.

They were really great. They were a great label for me to be on. And that worked out the way it was supposed to. I just had to wait a little while. Do you ever perform not in a cowboy hat? Yeah, I have. Yeah. When I do solo shows, there is mostly for those ones.

Sometimes I'll kind of wear it for half the show. But, you know, I realize it's such a trademark that I really don't take it up. I do a rock encore in my show. I do a rock medley of, you know, pop and rock songs. And I'll take it off for that. And just for something a little bit different. But then I put it right back on. Have you had to sign thousands of cowboy hats?

Oh, gosh. Yeah. It's probably the number one thing. Oh, absolutely. A lot of cowboy hats. And I hate those ones that are those really cheap ones that that look like they've been woven. They're hard to, they're hard to sign. They got holes in them.

Do you? Get a real hat. And I learned, John, parties a friend of mine and he, you know, has given me cowboy hats. I'm not a cowboy hat guy, but he's like, you wear like a felt, I could be wrong, like a felt type hat in the winter and definitely a straw type hat in the summer. Do you do that? After Memorial Day. Yeah. Are you kidding?

Like the white, like you can't wear white, you can't wear. So do you have to. So do you have different kinds of hats depending on the weather? Yeah, I usually switch to straw, you know, June 1st or right after Memorial Day. It's a thing to do. And yeah, and I honestly was wearing straw hats because I had a bit of a deal with a hat company for a while, and they didn't really make great felt hats. So I wore straw hats for a good 10 years all the time.

And then when that deal was over, I'm like, I'm going right back to the whole Texas Cattleman's Crown cowboy hat. I'm going to do it the right way, you know, felt in the winter and fall and straw in the summer. Two more hat questions. Because I just thought about them. Your hat has been in a specific way. It's very much your shape. Yeah. Who does that?

I do it. And how do you do it? Do you have like a mold now that's just the Terry mold and you put it in the hat? A steamer. You use a steamer and you can shape a hat the way you want. In fact, this is a funny story. I had to go get a hat for a photo shoot and I was in the middle of another move. so all of my felt hats were in storage.

So I went downtown to, I think it's a boot country down on lower Broadway to get a felt hat. And I walked in and bought the hat and they wouldn't let me shape it. They said, it's just we have to do it. And I said, oh, God, please. So funny thing is, I used to work at boot country in Hendersonville before I got a record deal. And the same guy owns the whole chain. So I say, can you call Ed Smith and tell him his former employee would like to shape her own hat? Yeah, name drop, got them.

Right? So they did. They said, well, just let her do it. They made the exception. It's an insurance thing. The steamer can burn you or something like that. So because I was going right from the store to the photo shoot, I didn't have time to go home and do it. But that's how you shape them.

You use a steamer and it makes them soft and you can shape them. But yeah, I do kind of have my own shape. I never just wear a hat the way it is off the shelf. If you don't wear a hat, well, there be people that don't recognize you that should because I've not worn my glasses and executives have passed me. Didn't even know it was me. Right. Yeah.

It's definitely your glasses are your trademark. You know, people, you could, somebody could draw a caricature of you with, with your, they'd know it's you. Yeah, or Harry Carey. One of the two. I write, alright. Okay, so look, we're going to play some stuff from your record and, um, you're just so fun to talk to. So let me say this. She's doing, she has like 20 dates left this year.

Um, the record is out. Terry Clark, take two. I think we'll play the Ashley better things to do in its entirety. Okay. I like, I like this one a lot too because I like both of you. And I think this is the same. song I think about. Is this most people's number one song with you? I would say it's the number one streamer, but the Cody Johnson, Kelly Clarkson duets on Take 2 are blowing up stream. They're doing really

well. I guess I mean just in general with your songs. My songs, yeah, that's the one I think most people identify me with. It was the first one. It was, you know, that whole pan from my boots all the way up, you know, and I'm this super skinny 26 year old girl. That's the thing people remember. And the t-shirt sleeves rolled up in the hat with the electric guitar. That was the very very, very, very It was a very, it was, yeah, it was a very defining moment. Where do you play that in your show? Last? You have to play it last?

Yes, I play it last. And the audience gets to sing and it's a big party and it's so much fun. And we're doing the new arrangement from the new record actually on that one. It's not that different. So I don't even know if nobody notices it. But it's fun for the band. You know, I'm playing electric on it now and I used to play acoustic. And we are enjoying playing some fresh takes on these.

The melodies are the same though, right? Because the worst thing is when you go watch an artist and it's like, here's a song that was a hit for me, but I'm now going to do it operatic style. Yeah, no, no, no. No, I think the customer's always right. And they're buying a ticket to hear something that they can sing along to. Don't mess with the business. That is the business you don't mess with.

And I'm not going to go see James Taylor or Fleetwood Mac or somebody or Bonnie rate and want to hear something completely off the wall of a song that I love so much, you know. or a whole lot of new stuff. I'm good with a couple new. Oh, yeah. I don't want a whole show on this. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, I even play, like, if I need more content in my show, I'll play some stuff that were hits in Canada, um, that, but, but, but weren't here. But I'll also, you know, I'll also play songs that maybe weren't huge hits here, but were singles, like, Dirty Girl and Three Mississippi and songs like that. But as long as like five in a row.

Yeah, yeah. I know. I think it's, I think it's important for artists to stick to a roadmap as a hits in their show because that's what people really want to. And 90s country is kind of this thing now that people have really gone back to and are digging deeper. And, you know, some of them may have heard your songs for the very first time listening to a

playlist and they're going to show up and buy a ticket to your show and it's going to sound completely different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that would suck. Okay, now it's our straight talk wireless question. Terry, to stay grounded. Who tells it to you straight? Well, I'll tell you something, my manager, Clarence is no BS at all.

Like, he is very, very honest, and he will give me the real story. And I think that's really important. My mom, when she was alive, was definitely that person. And I've got friends that I ate dirt with in my life that have been around for 40 years, who are very, very honest with me. You know, I have some, and music fans in general and see artists and actors and ask. questions about the industry, but that I can lean on for, you know, when you go to a show or, okay, if somebody really iconic, not me, I'm talking about a James Taylor or somebody,

it makes a new record. Are you excited about that? No? Okay. Like, it's sort of, it's that honesty. Like, do I make another record of new music or not? I don't know. If I do it, I'm doing it for me. Yeah. I'm going to do it because it's something I really want to do without any kind of expectation of an outcome because it's the only reason to do that stuff now. But, you know, I do talk to my friends. I have people in my life that are very honest and always will be and people that who's, you know,

opinions I really respect. I have found that the people that I care about that will tell me when something's not good or the people that I care about when they tell me something is good. Because it's anybody, you know, people say all kind of good stuff to you. If things are going well for you

because they want to be around, they're on the success. Right. So it's really, I only take good from the people that I care about and will hear bad from. Well, it's amazing who I'm hearing from, you know, who's texting me because now I'm talking about this project and I'm a little more in the forefront as far as, you know, doing some interviews and press and stuff. And it's like, oh, look who just texted me. Right. It's just, you know, you have to take it as it comes.

And I try not to take criticism from anybody I wouldn't take advice from. Absolutely. Because that's right. wants to offer criticism out of nowhere. Everybody's an armchair expert, you know, and thinks they know. You know, there was somebody who, the comments on the new record have been all so positive and so great and everybody's loving it. But, you know, there's always a couple.

And one person was like, why does your voice sound like it's in a wind tunnel? It's compression, right? But people who are in engineers, engineers mix records now with different effects because you know. how most people listen to music through their iPhone speaker. Like a lot of people just run around listening to stuff through an ip-they're mixing music based on the wow. They have to almost like the volume has to be different like it's a whole different it's a whole different world now. Terry Clark take two with music from obviously all Terry's songs about Lauren Elena Paul Brank, Kelly Clarkson,

Cody Johnson, Ashley McBride, Carly Pierce, Ben Rector, Laney Wilson. Also go to Terry Clark.com, a bunch of shows all the way through 2020. You have a show in 2025 on the list? I know, I know, and there's a whole bunch of shows that I have, that we haven't announced yet that are coming up this winter. And we're adding stuff all the time. So we're, all and all, we're probably going to be at 75 shows for the year by the time we're done, which is a really good year. Final, final question. I washed dishes for about a year and a half. I did too.

It was a terrible job. I washed dishes. It was a terrible. I worked at a restaurant. It was a terrible job. I had to work out of that to be a bus boy. But, and I am not somebody who likes, I don't do well with gross. But I wash dishes.

You don't do well. with gross. I don't. And that's the grossest job. Especially if you don't have a good waitstaff that's helping you, at least on the front side, cleaning up, like scraping the plates. It is, it is horrendous. Did you have the big sprayer and the big rack? I did that in high school for my high school job. What did you learn from washing dishes? That people are gross. Exactly. Exactly. And I try to not be so gross because of that. Yes, they're gross. Terry Clark, great to see you. You're one of my favorites now. You're one of my favorites when I didn't know you, but now that I know you, like you're one of my

favorites. Thank you, Bobby. You're absolutely one of my favorites. Maybe the favorite interview ever that I've gotten to be a part of today. That's not a word gotten. No, I mean, I really enjoy talking to you. Like, I would sit and have dinner with you. We could have some really like, you know, off the record conversations that would be, I think, really meaningful. So I like getting that feeling from somebody I'm talking to and I appreciate it. Yeah, and I would secretly record it and bring it on the next day. But it would be good though, right? And dinner would have to be early. It would be like 430 because I was like that's what you do. There she is.

Terry Clark, everybody. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

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Yeah, exactly. And if I can't walk up and over it, I'm going to go through it. Listen to Mind Over Mountain every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's a voicemail from Stephanie in Sacramento. What do you do if your dog or pet hurts an animal? So today, my golden retriever caught a bird, and it didn't die, and it was injured and could not fly. I put it in a box with some paper towels, and I called a local wildlife rescue that. has a bird nursery and I took it in.

And sadly, both of its legs were broken and it's not going to make it. If this happens again, what should I do? What's the right thing to do? What would you do? Leave it out for nature to take its course or did I do the right thing or what would you guys do? I'm curious. Thanks so much.

Love the show. I don't think there's a wrong thing to do here. I think if you're from the country, you shoot it if you have a gun. You put it out of his misery. From the country, country. If you are from the city, you're like, why's a bird here? This is the city. You're just confused, right?

Yeah, there's so many diseases on wild animals. I don't think I'm touching it. That sucks. But I think if you're Arkansas Keith, my stepdad, you'd probably shoot it. But I don't think there's a wrong answer here. Yeah, it sounds like what she did was... You had a good heart. Yeah, big heart, totally the right thing for what needed to be done.

You could stomp it? No. You could stomp its head. No, that's dramatic for me. No, no, I hear you. You could. I'm saying if you don't have a gun, you could, how I grew up, if an animal, there was no bouncing back, you put it out of its misery as fast as possible.

Shovel? Can you let the dog finish it off? You can? No. But the problem of that is... I don't want to do that. Then the dogs, like, got it in the house. The dog is sick. Do not feel bad about this. This is my point.

You did nothing wrong here. Do not feel bad about it. That's a terrible situation. You have a big heart. And I think any of the options would have been big heart. It stinks. I have to kill an animal like that. To answer her specific question about what she should do the next time it happens, If it happens, do exactly that again. The bird may live.

It may be totally fine and okay. Who's going to take care of a bird with two broken legs? It can't function. The bird sanctuary. Okay. You know what? Big Hart. Love it.

All right. Play the next one, please. Good morning studio. This question goes out to lunchbox. So I have a dating question for you, actually. I've been seeing this girl right for almost a month now. And, you know, we're getting to the point where instead of just like, go on specific dates, we're kind of just hanging out now.

We've been on more than like seven dates by now. But anyways, I have this question. Right, so I'm starting to think about this first kiss with her. I'm wondering, do I go full out make-on-fesh? You know, just make-out with her, you know, tongue. Or, you know, are we just going to go for a little peck on the list and let her be? Lunch as I figured you'd be the man to tell me. So you tell me what I should do, and I'll do it.

What is wrong with you? You've been hanging out for a month and you haven't a French kissed her? Yeah, been gone, ah, all up in her mouth. More than seven days, he said, more than seven days. That's ridiculous. You've got to go full-on tongue all up in her mouth. When would you have gone full-on-tong tongue up in her mouth? Probably first night.

Yeah. Did you ever go full on tongue up in her mouth before you ever knew their name? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I still, I mean, I can still name some of the girls like what they're wearing. They don't know their name. But you know what they're wearing. Yeah.

Green dress. Never knew their name. Never knew her name. She was in my phone as green dress. No idea. Stop. Is she still on your phone as green dress? Did you ever clear all of them out?

Like, did you ever? I'm in check. Because I, you know. I wonder if like if they get rid of their phone number, does it like delete from my phone? No. I don't think so. It just calls whomever answers now. Would you ever, how do I ask this?

Gently. Would you ever do more without knowing their name? Yeah. No, it's not in there for some reason. Green dress? No, maybe it didn't transfer over when I got an iPhone. Because I used to have a flip phone back in those days. Yeah, yeah, of course.

Green dress in the flip phone days, flip phone, yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, there's definitely girls I did more with it. I didn't even know their name. They were just hot. Do you think they knew your name? Oh, for sure, probably. For sure, probably. Did they know it as lunchbox?

Yeah, yeah. There was no real name given. No need for that. Is that why they hooked up with you probably? They thought I was good looking, thought I was funny, thought I was entertaining, and yeah, being a celebrity, it helps. No, he knew you. I always thought those girls were trying to get to you. You thought they would make out with him to get to be.

Man, that is taking, wow. He's like the opening band? Holy crap. I don't want to be on that stage. I'm off that venue And then no bill, I'm not there No, I don't think that's, I never thought that was the case If you weren't lunchbox

And whatever that means, could you have still gotten these girls? Yes. I got skills. All right. Okay, okay, okay. So your advice to this person is? Oh, full on tongue and I mean, dude, you have, I don't know why you waited seven days.

This is ridiculous. No, no, everybody goes at their own pace. It's totally fine. I hear you, but this pace is even for me. Seven dates? That's like, she thinks you're her buddy at this point. Oh, man. We're just pals.

Okay. A lot is defined in the first couple, three. That's good luck though, man. Well, some people don't even kiss until their wedding. No, that's not true. Who does that? Like three people ever. Who? Like, that's a noon story when it happens because that never happens.

Okay. Thank you. You guys can call us anytime. 877-77 Bobby. Bobby Bone Show. Boney up the day. This story comes us from Pennsylvania. A 22-year-old man was going to to visit his buddy in jail and his buddy's like, hey, I need you to bring me a gun.

He's like, man, I don't know if I can get the gun in, but I'll do my best. So he hid the gun in his shoe, walked in. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Metal detector goes off and he goes, oh, must be my nose ring. Takes out the nose ring. Tries to go through the metal detector again. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. And they do a search and they find the gun. Like, eventually, they're going to find whatever that metal is, right? Did he think if he took his nose ring out,

they would be like, that must be it. You're good to go. No need to go back through. We found it. I wonder if he said like, I guess it wasn't the nose ring. He's confused. I wonder what they'll find this time.

No, that's when you run. You get out of there. All right, thank you. I'm Lunchbox. That's your Bonehead story of the day. All right, I think we all can agree that tipping culture is, it's a bit out of control.

Oh, yeah. But you don't have to tip in some places where they're like, you did this, you can't tip. some places you probably should tip, but it's all on a who you are, what you believe, manner. But yes, there are too many tip lines. I will even agree with that. And I'm someone who feels like I need to tip everywhere because people will tip me with all my jobs growing up. Okay, Morgan, what is your question?

So I went to a restaurant and they automatically had the gratuity included. This is just a two-top. It wasn't a big group or anything. And it was a 20% gratuity. Two people, they automatically include. Yep. It wasn't even a question. It was like, and she told us, the server was like, hey, just so you know it's automatically added into the bill.

What's, what was it, 20? Was it 20? 20%. Wow, I've never heard of that. Okay, go ahead. Yeah. And so, but we signed that and we were sitting there like, do we still tip? There's still a tip line. But this is the first time we've ever been at a situation with two people, not like a big group where they've automatically included it. So do you add an additional tip? Or are you like, okay, we're good. That was the bill. If you would have tipped 20%, you're good. You're good. If you wanted to tip more, if you would have tipped more anyone. way you can add another few bucks. And even the fact that the waiter or waitress,

whomever knew that, that's them also saying, hey, you don't have to add anymore. Like for them to go, hey, it's already added. You don't have to add anymore. They're also telling you,

this is kind of weird. So if the problem is, let's say, and I'm not, I always tip at least 20%. But let's say you didn't want to tip 20%. And they've already added in 20. The problem is that they just have that money. You can't take that off.

you're going to have to call the manager. Like write a little minus on there? You can't type like a minus because imagine this. What if you did a minus for all that you paid and you got everything free? I bet no one's done that. Let's flip that around. I think that's a little bizarre. I've never heard of that at a two top.

For sure, parties of six or more, we had a tip built in for sure because you just didn't want to spend and put a lot of effort into a frigging six top with a baby in a high chair and they get stabbed with no tip. You just dedicated a bunch of your night to it. But I think you don't have to tip anymore. the expectation is not to tip anymore. And if you do, that's great. But I haven't heard of that,

but I think you're totally cool. And I think the wait person knew that too. What would you add? If you decided to add some, what would be the threshold? Would it be like $5? Would it be $2? Depends how good you are at math.

Oof. So you can break down the percentages or at 20%, let's say your bill was $28. Right? You could add another three or four bucks. Because anything over that, that's just money.

What's 20% of 28? Well, so 10% of 28 would be $2.80. Right. Okay. Now, double that. That would be $560. That's fast, dude, slow down. Now, I got a question.

No, I did it slow so I could explain to you how it works. Go ahead. So now the waiter really doesn't have to do a good job and they get 20%. Yeah. That is so stupid. Can you tell me the other restaurant? It's off my list. Well, it is a nicer restaurant.

So I think that has to do with it. It's a nicer restaurant. It's off your list already. Good question. Never heard of that. too, but also they must be doing it because people aren't tipping. I think, and it takes out that question of, you know, you're at a nice restaurant, it's already included, don't worry about it.

They should write that, don't worry about it unless you really want to worry about it. Do you think people aren't tipping? No, but some people will tip way less. Yeah, that's crazy. Like, I don't go less than 20. I think some people are like revolting against tipping culture and tipping way less just to be like, I hate tipping culture, but it's like some of those places you have to tip because they're making two bucks an hour.

But, no, that's a good question. And I think a lot of people probably wonder that, but you're fine. You don't have to tip anything. Did you tip anything on top of that? I didn't. You weren't supposed to. Because I was like 20% sweet. Okay, you're covered.

You're not a loser. You're not a loser. Done deal. I would tell you if you were. Don't worry. Bye everybody. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.

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