The Bobby Bones Show - Wednesday Pre-Post Show (10-2-24)
Episode Date: October 2, 2024We start addressing how we are starting a new thing of doing some of this podcast now before the show. Bobby has a list of the fastest drive-thru’s in the country that leads us to talking about if o...wners do ‘undercover boss’ on their restaurants. A child who was locked in an Amazon locker, how Thai food got to America, and fake deliveries drivers that are stealing packages. When then found out Raymundo has been living a lie and we get the real story. We also get into some inside baseball about how our show works.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So this is before the show starts.
So if we come on and we have a little extra time before the show, we'll hop on.
We don't have an intro for this, though, where Ray goes, do the preto.
Do you want to do one?
Yeah, what do we call on?
Because what we could actually call it?
I was thinking about this last night.
We had to do something called the pre-show, post-show?
Post-o, pre-show.
We could call this generally if we do this, the pre-show-show-slash-post-show.
Because you're getting pre-before-the-show starts.
And then you're getting post after the show ends.
And that's a little different because a lot of people will do post show type podcast and stuff.
But I've never heard a sandwich.
This is the first time.
And I'm not saying we're doing it all the time because we don't always have time to do it.
But my goal is to put up as much content as possible.
And so this will be the pre-show slash post-show as it's labeled on the podcast.
It felt fair?
This is the first bun.
This is the top bun.
Yeah.
Oh, or is at the bottom?
Oh, it's top.
You start at the top.
Okay.
Ray, give me some sort of intro.
We'll see if we like it.
It's the pre-show slash post-show.
Well, you don't do a post-show yet.
You already have the post-show one.
It's the pre-show.
Do you need a minute?
Yeah, I mean, what creatively do I want to do?
I don't know.
It's your voice.
That's why I didn't give you any direction.
So I'll let you.
I got it.
It could be, okay.
Eggs and bakey, time to wakey.
It's the pre-show.
That's good.
I'm fine with that.
That's a bad.
That's your voice.
If you decide, you have another one,
a couple you want to try out, let me know.
But I like that off the cuff.
I don't know.
I kind of want to go back to you.
I think you start with the bottom bun
because when you put your burger,
you set it on the bottom bun first.
When you make a sandwich.
But when you eat it,
your tooth goes into the top bun first.
Well, that's true.
I think about eating it.
Yeah, then that's what people are doing.
They're consuming this.
They're not making it.
Yeah.
You won.
All right.
Let's stick with top then.
I mean, nobody's wrong.
We don't need a bun.
Nobody's wrong bun.
It's the top bun.
Speaking of food, Taco Bell is the quickest fast food drive-thru for the second year in a row.
KFC is second, followed by Arby's, Duncan, and Wendy's.
This is from In Touch Insight.
And so what I'm assuming they do, although it's a crapshoot, depending on how well each location is run,
because they're all individual owners.
And I've been to some Taco Bells, bam, awesome.
And I've been to some where you can tell, they've got other things to do.
And I think that generally is.
So hopefully the sample size is large.
in different states.
Because I'm telling you, in Arkansas, they are in no rush.
I'll go home.
We'll go through a Starbucks or we'll go through a Taco Bell.
It's like island time.
They just chill?
It's like, yeah.
I mean, it's like hillbilly time, except it's like island time.
They're probably checking TikTok.
I don't know.
I don't know if they're on TikTok.
I don't know what they're doing.
But it's weird.
It's much slower than if you're in a city where things have to move faster.
Because when I go home, I'm not from a big city.
I'm not even, I'm not from Little Rock, and that's not a big city, but that was the big city to me growing up.
It is, it is very slow.
And sometimes I forget that.
Like, I forget about island time or small town time.
It's what we should call it.
Small town time.
Small town time.
I wonder if the owners ever, like, go through the drive-thru and pretend.
Undercover boss.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
I would.
I mean, my family and my mom, she worked for my sisters-in-laws.
They were all in the restaurant business, and they would do that all the time.
Like, my dad would go through his drive-thrus or the Taco Bell family.
family, like that's who my sister married into, and they would go all the time, and he would see how many sauce packets they would give him, and he'd be like, this is way too many.
That's legit. That's legit. Yeah, yeah. Before it's even a show. Yeah. So, like, and then they would make improvements based on what they would see. And then my mom was his assistant, so she would go through and she'd report back, hey, I went, and then there wasn't enough cheese in my bean burrito.
Got them. Snitches.
No. One of my friends, like a week and a half ago, was like, hey, coming to town. Where do I know?
need to go eat. And so my wife and I are part owners of a restaurant, just a small piece. And I was
like, you should go here about it and tell them that we were part owner of the restaurant. And so I was
like, you should go here. It's great. And it's like, what should I order? It's I gave him a couple
options, a couple, you know, appetizers. And then I checked in with them. How was it? How does it
taste? What is it good? So I got a full feedback on, he didn't know. It was, you know, the place
that we owned part of. And I took the whole thing and copied it and sent it over to the main person.
And I was like, hey, your people did pretty good. Oh, it was good.
Okay, it was a good report.
It was good.
Well, you can't always base it on somebody's taste preferences.
Because I was like, if you like blue cheese, this is really good.
If you don't.
But I didn't even give them a discount or anything because I didn't want them to know it was, I was using them for my own personal.
So, yeah, we undercover boss a little bit there on that one.
A two-year-old is briefly trapped inside of an Amazon locker.
What's the locker?
I think an Amazon locker, I've seen these.
Like at Whole Foods?
Oh, I've seen that outside the store.
Yeah.
And you can like, they put it in it and then you go to it and you like type of code in and get something out, right?
That's right.
Isn't that right?
Yes.
So, and you don't own the locker.
It's just there.
It almost is like one of those red boxes outside of a gas, or yeah, gas station.
But it's not outside of a gas station that I've seen.
I don't even know where I've seen them.
Yeah, maybe outside of Whole Foods.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a, there's a food place around the street too that does that.
Like you order and then you go and they give you a locker box.
and then you check on your phone.
And it says like, you know, locker five and you go,
it's like the future.
It's so weird.
It's weird, actually.
But they have this Haitian dish that my kids love.
They have all different types of cuisine you can choose from.
But you open up Locker 5 and there's your Haitian dish.
And I don't even know where it came from.
Because there's no, you don't see people.
It's like a ghost kitchen or something.
Probably from the back, huh?
It is, but you don't ever see them.
You just see all these lockers.
The back of the locker has a hole and they just put that in there?
Yeah.
I don't know.
That sounds very.
That sounds a glory hole.
That's not what I was thinking.
That sounds, but I would imagine, the Amazon does not.
Like, what they do is they open the front of it, put it in, and then go, you're here.
But with the, that's also sounds dirty.
But you're saying it's in the, like, connected to the restaurant and they can put it in through the back?
Yeah, no, it's just a building.
And I think there's a kitchen in the back somewhere.
And they will make.
You know that food is good.
When it's shady, it's good.
It's not always the cleanest, but it's usually pretty good.
Do you want Italian?
Do you want Haitian?
Do you want Indian? Do you want Chinese?
That sounds dangerous.
That sounds like the cheesecake factory menu.
Yeah.
Food all around the world.
I don't know that I like that.
I like specialization when it comes to a food.
They have it down.
Like my kids are, they love a legit Haitian meal.
And the thing is, I was like, I wish I could tell you who cooked it where we could get it again.
I guess I just got to go to locker five.
What do you order it from?
Yeah, exactly.
On the phone.
Craigslist.
Or when you get there, there's like a pad.
You can type it in.
It reminds me of an episode of Black Mirror or something
where I feel like I'm, I don't know,
something's weird about to happen.
But it's very futuristic.
And that's around here?
Yeah.
I want to tell you a story in a second about international food.
But let me tell you this story first.
The kid in the locker.
Two-year-old child was briefly trapped inside an Amazon locker.
It must be one of the big ones.
Because they're also like a little slide-out ones you can't get in.
But she's two at around 4.40 p.m.
9-1 received reports of a child trapped inside of an Amazon lock.
The spokesperson for the Seattle Police Department, so the two-year-old was playing with a sibling when he accidentally got stuck inside the locker.
It must have been open?
Yeah, they must have got the package out, and my mom's looking at the package.
The kid jumps in.
Unless somebody got their package out and just didn't shut it all the way.
Right.
And you don't know the code of that locker.
Oh.
So they're stuck.
At this time, it's not clear how the child escaped the locker, but Amazon noted the lockers have high visible levers inside, which allow them to be open from the inside.
Yeah, explain that to a two-year-old, though.
There's a highly visible lever.
I'm too.
Hey Mike, will you look up
I was listening to a story about Thailand
and Thai food and how back
in maybe the 70s or 80s
in order to
push along the appeal of Thailand
the Thai government paid a lot of people that lived in Thailand
to move all over America and start Thai restaurants.
Really?
I love Thai food.
It is so good.
It is so good.
Because it kind of came out of nowhere.
It was like, Chinese food,
Chinese food, sushi, sushi, sushi, Thai.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're like, wow, I kind of like Thai food, didn't even know.
Because Thai to me feels very stir-fri-e.
I don't know if that's true or not.
That's what I feel on my head when it's like Thai food.
And I'm sure there are a lot of different versions of it.
Thai chili sauce?
Oh, that's so good.
I don't even know if that story was made up.
That's why I'm asking Mike to fact-check it.
But I feel like at some point, the Thai government paid people to leave Thailand
to go and start these restaurants in order to actually create a positive
look for Thailand in the country so people will then go there.
In 2002, dang, this is, what year are we now?
2020? Hey, dang, 2002 feels like yesterday.
I know.
That's what I was like, this.
It wasn't yesterday.
We were in college.
It was a long time ago.
I know, but when you just read 2002, I'm like, well, that just happened.
You're right.
Right, because I think you, when you told the story, did you say the 70s?
I thought it was that far back.
It feels that far back.
Maybe I didn't hear the year ever in the story, and I just thought it was that far back.
Yeah.
But in 2002, the Thai government launched the global Thai program.
a diplomatic initiative with the aim of increasing the number of Thai restaurants worldwide,
the state provided training programs grants and information to Thai investors who wanted to open
restaurants abroad. So they basically invested a bunch of money and gave people money the grants
to move here to help them open up Thai restaurants. That is genius. Crazy. And it worked. And
like long game. Like macro. You got to get in, you got to move somewhere. You got to set up a
restaurant. It's got to be successful. And you're only in Toledo. So you only got 11 people
they're coming to Thailand now.
Right.
But like all over America
and like build out that culture,
that's pretty cool.
But the goal was to get people
to go to Thailand.
Just to have an awareness of Thailand.
That worked.
And then get people to go to Thailand.
That didn't work.
Well, no, maybe.
I don't think that's true at all.
Have you all gone to Thailand?
No, but all of these like travel sites.
Yeah.
To go to Thailand?
Yeah.
You go out to eat like at a Thai restaurant
and you're like,
what should our next vacation be?
And then you're like, oh, let's go to Thailand.
That's never happened.
But I think I know people have been to Thailand.
Really?
He's like, that didn't work.
Well, yeah, because like, I haven't known anyone that's been to Thailand.
I've never thought about going to.
I'll be honest, I don't know where Thailand is.
And then go to Mexico.
Right, but I love their food.
Yeah.
Yeah, but you guys live near Mexico.
So that was normal.
No, I'm saying Thailand.
She said Mexico.
I was just saying, like, I also, yeah, I mean, I guess when I'm eating Italian food.
You want to go to Italy?
Bangkok.
That's Thailand.
It's a capital.
There's a town called.
P-H
Don't lunchbox don't say it
P-H-U-K-E-T
I'm going to say
probably like
Fouquet
but it would be easy
to not say it like that
I think there's a restaurant
There's a restaurant here
called Thai Fouquet
It's called Pouquet
But here
I always say
Yeah we thought you would
We know
So in one of the
Google searches
How to Thai people say
That word
Which I guess is
Pouquet
But yeah
Thailand
I never been
I wonder what the flight
is in Thailand
It's got to be like 20 hours.
Where is Thailand?
I don't know.
Asia.
Yeah, but like is it above Australia?
Like that far, Asia?
I think it's probably on the...
Oh, 23 hours.
I think you probably go the opposite way to get there.
23 hours.
But it's close.
I mean, a lot of...
Yeah.
That's a long way.
Like, that's what I've been Australia.
That's about what that flight was.
And it only costs us $1,400.
Okay.
If you want to go to Bangkok, 1394.
I was eating some Thai food yesterday and thought,
man, I'd love to go to Bangkok.
So you booked it.
Oh, the cheapest month to fly to Thailand is November.
So I'm trying to figure out where this is.
So Australia happens and then up into the left on a map.
Okay.
Seems to be Thailand.
Okay.
Am I correct on that, Mike?
So I wonder if you could go, if you're in New York, if you go the other way around.
It's probably closer going the West Coast way.
It is if you're on the West Coast, but I wonder if you go East Coast if you could just go that way.
You got to fly over like Africa and all that.
I guess that seems further.
I don't know where that.
It is.
I mean, on the map, it seems like, that's not bad.
I think like in real life.
I can stretch my fingers, dude, and get there.
Right, exactly.
I can do it all the way there.
A fake Amazon driver's swapping packages.
Oh, excuse me, swiping packages in Virginia.
That'd be a pretty easy thing to pull off.
Yeah.
Get a white van.
Easy.
One of those vests.
Yeah.
One of those vests that you can buy for $10.
Yeah.
You could actually just get a normal car and do it.
But that would seem a little shadier because even when it's the real Amazon person in a normal car, it feels shady.
Yeah, but just put your hazard lights on.
Then you're just like, oh, it's Amazon.
No, I agree.
But if you can commit to the white van, that really is next level.
Not like a work truck white van, like a little.
I don't think it matters.
If there's a white van pulls up.
It doesn't matter.
I'm like, do whatever you want.
You must be what you say you are because you're in a white van.
You've committed to a white van.
Amy's right, though, not one of those old school white vans.
I got candy in the back.
Tinted windows.
Yeah, it doesn't matter to me.
If it's in a white van, you can do whatever you want.
That's basically a license to come and do whatever you'd like to do.
That is your all-access pass.
Is it worth it to like swipe packages though?
Like what's, what are the odds are you going to get a good one?
I think the odds are if you get a bunch of them, some of them are going to be good.
Yeah, you got to think how many packages Amazon delivers in a neighborhood per day.
If you just drive through and get 50 packages, one of those is going to be a gold mine.
Or even, you don't even need it.
I don't think it's a gold mine you have to have.
You just need a bunch of, like, copper.
resell. Like the last 10 packages I got in my house
where like notebooks,
card sleeves. Yeah, and you could
sell that stuff. Okay. On eBay.
Oh, like a palette?
Well, I wouldn't say like a palette, but I would say like you could sell it
individually. What's the last thing you got from
Amazon? Look at your hand. Do you guys have it?
Yeah, I already know. Curtain rods.
Curtain rods?
See, like, what are you going to do with that?
Sell it on eBay? But then they can...
Yeah, I ordered the wrong size, so actually I'm going to
return them. So...
Let me see my last orders here.
You want our order.
orders or my wife's orders.
Whatever you have up on your deal?
Last one.
Oh, didn't know we got that.
Eddie finds out.
It's a basketball hoop.
What do you mean?
Like the rim?
Yeah, like the whole thing.
It's the whole thing.
I guess, yeah, I guess we're getting a basketball hoop in the backyard.
I have a baseball, like, baseball case that you put, like, I don't know what you call.
Display.
Like a baseball.
For a card?
For a baseball.
Oh, ball ball ball. Yeah, I got a Mickey Mantle baseball. So I got a couple of them to which one I like, so I ordered that. I have an I love Toby t-shirt that I wore at the Oklahoma game.
That's cool. I have a ob's bought tiny two-light 4K webcam. I bought two of these. I don't mind sharing this story.
There's somebody that does a morning show. They're actually on at the same time against us in a city that we're on. But I'm, I really like the guy. And their company doesn't pay for it.
them to have webcams or anything.
And I was talking with it and I was like,
you guys don't even have the ability to webcam,
like to stream your show or create content.
He's like, no, they don't pay for any of that.
So I bought multiple cameras and a switcher and mailed it to them.
Do what?
And I was, what?
Wait, for the competitor.
You mailed the competitor devices to make them better?
I mailed a person that's on at the same time as us,
help so they can actually do a better show.
Let's like, say like you're the Dallas Cowboys
and you're playing the Chiefs and the Chiefs,
don't have like good helmets or like hey I'm going to buy your helmet so we can play they don't
have a they don't have a good wide receiver so you hey man you can have our wide receiver like what are we
doing um I think looking at other radio shows as like competition is kind of failing at understanding
what media even is these days and so I would just like he they do a good show I just like them to do a show
and have the ability to share it and keep a long career uh me I don't feel like I'm competing
with other shows I feel like I'm competing with the world and we're doing our show on the radio but
on podcast and on YouTube and on social and you know
My goal is hopefully at some point during someone's day, they find 15 to 20 minutes to consume something of what we're doing.
So if one element of that is the live show and someone happens to go, man, they do great videos, I'll listen to them over the Bollyvone show.
Well, then we weren't doing the show good enough anyway.
So, yeah, but I bought some of those cameras and sent it to the show so they could build their own.
That's cool, man.
But I'm also not going to say who they are right now.
Good, right.
No one needs to know that.
But I bought that
And I bought some top loaders
Some what?
Top loaders for cards
Did you get your cards by the way?
Your basketball?
Yeah, I got them.
Oh, that's right.
You got a crap.
Yeah, I just got a bunch of the same card.
And you didn't get that one
No autograph.
No autograph.
And Ray, you got yours or no?
Yeah, I got on mine.
That was a confusing thing though.
The cards looked the exact same as the ones that were autographed.
So it's really a jump scare.
You think you won, but then you...
No, that's not true.
You don't have the white one with the triple audit.
It wasn't white.
I have Steph Curry, Kevin Durant,
and the other third.
LeBron.
Yeah, but it's on a blue with straight lines in the middle.
The triple auto is on white.
Right, I'm just missing the autographs.
You don't have a white one.
Right.
But it's a whole different card.
You're saying it looks like it doesn't.
The cards are two different colors.
I had no idea what even the card looked like.
I just bought them because you said it.
So I just opened up.
I was like, oh, and I went through them.
I'll show you the difference.
I was like, what if it's in the middle?
And it wasn't even though.
It was all the same car. Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Yeah. But my last purchase was a Buckel B, easy car seat, buckle release for children.
Nice.
And I bought some water shoes for 299.
Yeah.
Water shoes for 299.
Like the pool for you?
Well, I was going to on vacation and we were going to go in a gross pool like algae and they said you need water shoes.
So 299 wore them through them in the trash.
The hotel had a gross pool?
No, no, no, it was out in nature.
Oh.
I was like my freshman year of the dorm.
They were like, you need water shoes to shower in the dorm.
Yeah.
And so I wore them for like two days.
And then I just got lazy.
And then you just.
No, never got foot fun.
Oh, that's good.
I think it was just precautionary.
Hey, Ray, being from Michigan, were you a Tom Brady guy?
No, I just went to high school in Michigan, so I'm not any Michigan sports.
And my dad went to Michigan State, so I'm more state than Michigan.
But you claim to be from Michigan.
It was just the easiest to say, because when I went to college, I'm from Michigan.
But then when I came here, I said I was from Texas because I went to college in Texas.
So when you were in high school, where did you say you were from?
Wyoming, because I went to elementary and middle school in Wyoming.
I've never associated Ray with Wyoming
and it feels like that's more of who
he is than Michigan.
No, high school is more
defining. But I kind of was on the border.
But it's like the years. How many years in Michigan
versus how many years in Wyoming?
Wyoming was 14 years in Michigan. I was there for three,
maybe. I think that's the difference. Ray's from Wyoming.
He was born in Wyoming? He spent 14 years of his life there.
Where were you born?
I mean, that's a long story. But I was born...
It can't be a long story. Where were you born?
I was born in Salt Lake City, YouTube.
because I was a twin and it was an emergency thing
so we took a life flight to Utah
We're gonna get to this in a minute
We're about to be down with a priest
But you were living in Wyoming
We can get it in post show
I want to start with this in post show
When we come back
But you're not a Tom Brady guy
You've been watching him do our commentary
Yeah he's bad
I think he's gotten better
I made it through one
But I haven't watched since
What are your thoughts?
He's just the way that he structures words
He's just really slow
The one time he was great
Is when he ripped on Baker Mayfield
because he was kind of being himself.
I just feel like in his head he's really just trying to be bland and fake.
And that's not great for broadcasting.
If he was kind of his edgy self, how he talks to his friends,
he would be a better broadcaster.
He kind of has a nerdy voice.
I have a nerdy voice, but he kind of has a nerdy voice.
And if you don't see him, you just hear the voice,
he kind of sounds like you're talking Brady to do it.
Oh, yeah.
Don't you think he has weird pauses?
I think he's not natural because he hasn't done it ever.
But I do think he's getting a lot better.
He's done four games now.
Yeah.
And like two or three of them were Cowboys games.
Yes.
Week one was a disaster.
but you can overcome a weird voice
because if you think about Romo
I don't know Jim
he's playing it's a weird voice
but he's phenomenal
so explain that one
yeah Romo blew up because he was
the first guy to like
put his butt out there and predict plays
I bet they're gonna do this
and then he was pretty accurate
then people started get annoyed with it
yeah but he's like no you're only annoyed
because he's so good at it
he started getting it wrong a lot
well that's what happens
you think you think
broadcasters can just be themselves
not to an extent though right
you can't just say whatever you want
like Tom Brady
he did against Baker Mayfield. I mean, he let it rip
and that was awesome. We'll jump back on this.
So we got to go do the show now.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Because this isn't the show. This is the
pre-show. I thought we were done. Ray, do you want to end
this with some kind of voiceover and say, we'll be back or something?
Just play music and say, I don't know, go off the cuff, Tom Brady.
The end, Donzo, Finito. That was the pre-show.
And something about the post show is coming up.
Coming up soon. Post-it, Post-mate, Postcard, the post show.
Okay, after this break.
Interesting. Thank you.
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I'm not sure how long that podcast commercial break was, but it could have been three minutes.
I'm not sure.
But for us, it was hours.
So it's been hours since we've been on.
That is crazy how that works, man.
So now it's after the show.
We've now finished the show.
So a couple notes that I made to go back to.
He says, where Ray's from?
Yeah, where was he born?
That's right.
He's born in Salt Lake City.
We didn't know any of this, by the way.
I knew he had spent a brief period of time in Wyoming,
but I didn't know it was most of his life.
Mm-hmm.
Because he's always been Ray from Michigan, the Mitten.
From the north.
Like the thumb and the mitten.
or whatever, right?
Yeah.
Actually, the above the thumb and the mitten.
Classic.
It's not even the mitten.
So why would you not be Ray from Wyoming if there were 14 years of your life spent there?
Honestly, when I lived in Wyoming, it wasn't cool.
Now Yellowstone, Lainey Wilson, everybody goes to Wyoming, man.
Are they stoners or surfers?
It's the cool thing.
Back in the day, it was the most loser state of the 50.
What?
And so I tried to avoid that.
I would even tell people when I moved to Michigan, I'd say, oh, yeah, I'm from Colorado.
I definitely wouldn't think it was a loser state, but it wasn't as trendy.
I'd say it wasn't as trendy.
Because now people, like, rich people from L.A. going by places in Wyoming and Montana.
And it's funny, too, when people...
But you think Arkansas?
I'm like...
Who cares?
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm not going to use Arkansas.
And nobody from there.
Like, you are from where you're from.
I agree.
No matter what state it is.
I agree.
Well, it got to be real.
It was a...
Michigan was actually pretty cool to say Michigan.
but then when I was in Texas and I moved here,
it was actually awesome to say Texas.
And my wife would go, well, he's not from Texas.
He's from Michigan.
And that kind of seemed like a step down.
Texas was probably the coolest place I was able to say I was from.
I'd be like, yeah, yeah, Austin, Texas, yeah.
In your opinion, great.
Well, Austin, Texas.
What if you were from Plano?
Odessa.
Midland.
Like Dallas doesn't feel as cool as Austin.
Friday night of lights, guys.
Dallas, you would say a more wealthy area because I had friends there
and they'd always say, oh yeah, East Plano, man,
which was like the wealth.
From the colony.
But not all of Dallas is.
McKinney, dude.
I hear you.
It's just weird that we have known you for, I don't know, Ray.
What year do we meet if you had a guess?
We met in 2009.
Okay.
So you're looking at 15 years and not once has Ray been like, I'm really from Wyoming.
Right, because people choose to share what they want to share.
Like he did a tour stop there.
Like he was on tour and did a weekend in Wyoming.
Question.
Why did he leave Wyoming?
My dad, I was a kid, so I wasn't employed.
But my dad's employment took him to me.
Michigan.
Okay.
Whereas most kids are fully employed.
Yeah.
He was a lumberjack?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So is Ray now from Wyoming?
Absolutely.
Or do we, is, I just don't know where, like, at my core, I am with Ray and where he's
from.
His name's not Ray Mundo.
He's not Hispanic, Mexican, Latin.
He's nothing.
So it fits that he's from Michigan if he's Ray Mundo from Michigan, so none of it is actually
accurate.
I mean, do we really know who this guy is?
No.
We don't.
Dude, I'll never forget the day I met him.
You ever see Catching Me if you can?
I think we're dealing with one of those on a smaller scale.
Tell me about your day meeting Ray.
I went to your house.
You were having some people over.
We were grilling and Ray shows up with his buddy South Beach.
And I was like, they're both in muscle, they're both in muscle shirts.
Like whitefeeder shirts.
Like tight, tight muscle shirts and like board shorts.
And they're like bodybuilders super tan.
I'm like, who are these bros?
Ray, man.
Ray was when he started the show, the most hated personality.
in the history of the show.
In like a villain
wrestling type way.
People weren't changing the station
because they hated Ray.
People were
enthralled by him.
And the stupid thing,
because he was a bro's bro's bro.
Ray's gotten older.
He's gotten married.
Ray's actually a really smart guy.
But he had his collar popped
and he had the choker necklace on.
Hat backwards.
And was just so,
I don't want to say confident.
Like, super.
tanned.
Yeah, so tan.
And people
hated him.
And he'd call you
Pimp, like, that's how he's like,
what's up, Pint?
He still does.
Does he still do it?
Yeah.
But I was just, I was in love
as love at first sight.
I guess I met Ray, though.
He was an intern for the sports station.
And it was like
13, luncheon station,
1,300 of the Zone.
1,300 of the Zone.
AM station on Austin,
and they had asked me to do,
like, is it Christmas or Thanksgiving?
Right, Christmas time.
They were like, you want to do some sports?
I'm like, yeah, sure.
And I was like, I don't have a producer.
I don't have anything.
And they don't think they even paid me.
And so Ray was worked.
Scoob, okay.
Scoo just walk in and go, oh my God.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Let me finish the story.
I'm coming to you.
I'm pretty pissed.
Hold that emotion.
Oh, gosh.
Hold that emotion.
Anyway, I was like Ray,
producer said yes,
and then all of a sudden we worked together.
And then he came, I was an intern and Red Bull.
Wyoming.
The end.
The end.
Go.
Scuba.
What are you mad at?
What are you mad at?
Oh, my God.
cursing.
But what, okay, give me an idea of what just happened.
So an idea of what just happened. It's been happening for a few weeks, and I raised my
hand that there's a problem, and then people are saying there isn't a problem.
With technology?
With technology.
Okay.
It's a lot of inside baseball.
This is the perfect place for it.
Okay.
Let me try to catch my breath here because I'm irate, and I want to...
Yeah, we heard you walk in without you knowing, you go, oh my God, you just slammed your
stuff down.
So I don't like being called an idiot or a liar when I'm not.
So, here's what happened.
We've switched over our, most of our stations now are in this new program called Sound Plus,
which is a pretty good program, but it's not fully ready to be rolled out yet.
They're forcing it upon people to roll out when it's not ready.
Our old system is next gen, also has its problems, but for the most part works.
Explain what a system is.
What are we using the system for?
So we use a system to play our commercials to play the songs.
The computer program, basically, and it sends out our audio to all the affiliates.
Okay.
Our stations that take the show.
And this is a little insider for people who are listening.
Whenever there's a problem with the show and there's dead air or something wrong, it's not us.
It's the program and no one's jumping on it.
It's the computer program.
Exactly, yeah.
Is it the local affiliate?
Well, in this situation, it's the whole program which affects anyone on Sound Plus,
which is like 100 plus markets.
Okay.
So I can only monitor what's happening here in Nashville on WSIX, the Big 98, 97.9.
And so what I hear there, I'm like, oh, this is a problem and it probably is blanketed across all of Sound Plus stations.
The most recent problem that we're dealing with right now
is we have a delay on radio
for any cursing or whatever.
It's about a standard 40-second delay.
I've noticed since we switched S-I-X,
the local station in Nashville,
that there's a longer delay.
And Ray even was like, hey, man, there's a long delay.
And I was like, yeah, I heard it too.
And I was like, okay, let me keep listening to it.
And I noticed...
For example, I walked to the hall,
which the speaker is coming over.
You can hear it.
And it was yesterday's show.
I mean, I went to the bathroom and I'm like,
wait, what?
When I went to the bathroom, I was like, we said that five minutes ago.
Ray just got married.
What I was hearing.
But the problem with that is, let's say it makes you look stupid, Bobby.
So let's say, for example, you say, hey, Luke Bryan's on tomorrow at 620.
But if you go to punch in a 620, it's commercials because there's a four-minute delay.
And you wait around to 6-21 and most people are going to punch out.
And then we lose that credit because they thought he's going to be on 620.
And they think, oh, we missed it or whatever.
But in reality, there's a four-minute delay now.
And so I called it out.
And they're like, no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no four-minute.
delay or whatever you're saying. And I was like, no, there definitely is. Like, here's all the instances
that I've seen it. And here's the time frame of where we started the break. And then when the audience
hears the break. And so you feel like they're telling you that you're stupid because you're wrong.
Or are they telling you they don't think you're right? And you're interpreting that as they're
telling me I'm stupid, even though they're not. So what they've said was, here's the delays that we're
capturing, which are the standard 40 to 50 seconds or whatever, where are you getting that information from?
and someone said, not from engineering,
it's from the Bobby Bone Show.
Like, that's not coming from us.
We can't confirm that.
And I'm like, well, now you're calling me an idiot
because you should have my back
and know that this is a problem.
Also, listen to the station, you'll hear it.
So, then I'm like, all right,
now I'm going to be a petty little bitch.
And I'm going to record a video
showing when Bobby starts the break
here in the studio.
Called receipts.
Then I have to walk out to the hallway
and hold my phone up to the speaker
and show that Billy Zimmerman's song
just started.
Bailey.
where Bobby had actually already came out of Bailey Zimmerman
and started his content.
So I had to stand there like an idiot for three minutes
showing the difference in time of when you start
to when the actual content starts for the listener,
which throws off teases, it throws off quarter hours.
Did you tell them that...
You send in the video. I have a couple questions here.
Yeah.
Because you're getting pretty riled up.
And the danger of you getting riled up is eventually
I get really riled up and that's bad for all of us.
Yeah, well, I try not to tell you about it
the last couple weeks.
I know, but it's been like...
But you caught me coming in, I'll pissed off, so now I've got to tell you.
So, did you send him that video?
Yes, I did.
And then within that video, there was also 10 seconds of dead air.
Wow.
So I'm like, not only does...
The song goes, this is where it ends, and it literally ended.
It was dead air for like 10 seconds.
That's funny.
That had been a funny bit.
Which wins?
We just went home.
Yeah, we just go home and it's dead air the whole time.
But what happened was they didn't click back into the local system to play their top of hour
to then click into you.
So then you have 10 seconds of dead air.
My biggest worry is because I can't monitor all 100 plus sound plus station.
is this is happening all across the board.
It is.
And it is.
And it's one of my biggest issues.
If somebody comes to me, and I'm going to be very vague,
because there are certain things you can and can't say.
If somebody comes, it goes, hey, and I'll use Greensboro as an example,
because it's not an example.
In Greensboro, the performance isn't what the performance used to be.
And I'm like, if I go into my DMs,
I've got 11 people in Greensboro going,
you had dead air for four minutes.
I'm like, how is the expectation for us to continue to perform at a high level?
By the way, this is not a Greensboro problem. I'd just like to say that.
Yeah, just an example.
Yeah.
And but what's the expectation of us to perform at a level that we expect of ourselves and you expect of us if we don't have the resources to actually allow us to perform?
It's like going, hey, man, we need to be a better outfielder, but it's like, you didn't give me a glove.
But you should just try to use your bare hand then and try to do the best you can and also be an All-Star because we're paying you to be a center filter.
I don't have a glove.
So that is what really bothers me.
And sometimes I just have to let that go.
But you don't let it go.
No, I don't.
No, no, I can't let it go.
No, I'm not going to because now it's frustrating because now you told me that it isn't your word, it's my word.
So you're telling my word is crap, and that's bull crap.
Well, also, yeah, okay, a couple things I wanted to say.
If I were you were telling me this in therapy, this is why I'd say, first of all,
not everybody thinks you're an idiot because they disagree with you.
I think you have a, and I have the same similar issues where I feel like people are
looking at me in a lesser way because there's a disagreement, or maybe they're covering
their butts and they're just protecting themselves, but I take that and I interpret
that as they think that I'm the moron. I don't think people think you're an idiot. I think, if anything,
they know you're not an idiot and they're just trying to cover their butts or they just disagree
with you. But I don't think anybody thinks you're an idiot. Like you are so well respected and
trusted and valued, not just by me, obviously by me, but in the company that I don't think
anybody thinks you're an idiot. Okay, so I internalize it. And I always look at, I care most importantly
about the integrity of the brand and the brand of our show and the company.
And that's why I love about you.
I do.
I don't want you to take that, to take it personal.
Because it's very hard not to, obviously.
Oh, yeah.
But, like, I love the four agreements.
And you can read that book in 45 minutes.
I'm going to get it for you.
And even if, listen, there are seasons of years where I don't look at a single written word
because I'm read out.
I probably read like 13 books so far this year.
It's October.
That's a little below average for me, I think.
But the last 30 months, I haven't even looked at it.
I won't even look at a piece of paper with a word on it because I'm not in that season.
But even if you don't read, this is a perfect book for you in this situation.
Because there's a whole thing on it.
It's a very, very small book.
There's a whole thing on it.
Don't take anything personal in business.
Yeah.
And that's what this is.
They don't hate you.
They don't respect you less.
A little bit, they're probably just covering for themselves.
And they have to do this in order so they don't, you know.
look bad, lose their job, la la la.
Well, and the program that they're switching us to isn't even fully ready to go yet.
So that's another problem.
Again, forcing it upon us.
Yes, but that is not a personal thing toward you.
That is something we will figure out.
Yeah.
And it's okay to be upset, but don't take it personally, because you'll have a heart attack.
I'm watching you right now, and your head might explode, and it's because you think people might call you an idiot.
Or might think, nobody thinks less of you.
I'm telling you.
Nobody thinks less of you.
And then in that moment, as I was, you know,
walk in, I listen to the feed here locally. I'm not saying you're wrong. You're right. And the commercial
break doesn't hit. So then we have that stupid bed playing for four minutes. So now they're missing
revenue and there's a lot of technology issues. And then people think that's Ray. They think that's
Ray and they think that's Bobby and they're like, oh, you guys know what you're doing. No, we do what we're doing.
We get blamed for a lot of things. That's part of the nature of the job. Yeah.
We're here. We get blamed for it. There are markets that are like, the show doesn't do
well for us because whatever da-da-da. And I'm like, well, you've missed complete spot blocks.
I've been to complete dead air. There's not a, it's not your fault market. There's not a
board op to make sure things stay. It's not, you just have to do the best job that you can do.
You can get upset by it, but there's only a level because you can't control it. You can try to
influence it, but you can't control it. So if they, the goal is for every show or every
station in the company to do well, why are they rolling out a program?
that's not ready.
Because that's what we do here.
That's the culture.
No, that's not the answer.
Culture is.
Take a breath.
Okay.
Take a breath.
If you were to ask someone who's making the decision to roll out the program.
Yeah, like I would say, I know you want us to do well.
Why do you think they're rolling the program out?
I think, so the program, because I've used it when I was doing the I Hard 90s, it functions
amazingly, especially in the back end for someone like Ray loading audio.
It's literally a drag and drop.
Now he has to do like four or five steps to load.
a piece of audio where there's a lot of great benefits to this.
And you can also use it from home.
You can be on your laptop and record a show from your, so there's a lot of great things
for it.
It's just not fully ready to roll out.
So good.
Respond, don't react.
Okay.
I don't think you would have liked what you said there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Macro, I think the program is better.
Much better.
Micro, there are still some bugs in it at the level that we need it.
And sometimes we can't discover those bugs until we use it ourselves.
Right.
That makes sense.
And it takes people like Scooby to go, it's not working.
So then those bugs are then...
But until they don't work, they can't squash the bugs.
I would encourage you to continue to monitor
because without your eyes and ears,
we'll be in a load of trouble because I can't do it.
I can't monitor all this stuff.
So I need you to do that.
What I want from you, though, is not to take everything so personal.
Yeah.
Because it's nothing personal toward you.
I struggled with that for a long time
and I still do at times
take things very personal
that are not personal to me.
I got into a...
And Eddie was with me
while it was happening
and I'd be very generic
about this.
I got into an email situation.
And Eddie and I were working out
it was like 3 o'clock in the afternoon.
You're working out checking your work email?
It started like 252.
Yeah, it was right before we started.
Oh, okay.
And I was so...
I was like, hold on guns in between...
And it was kind of energy to work out even harder.
Oh, okay.
I was so fired up
because in essence, there was an executive in the company questioning my work ethic.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Exactly.
And it ended up on an email to you?
Yeah, because somebody else forwarded it to me, and I didn't, I don't, I don't, and maybe
they did, I don't know, maybe they didn't think I would take it weird, maybe they didn't
mean to put that part in there.
And it was now time for reply all meltdown.
And I was like, hey, you can say a lot of things about me.
At times, do I come off, do I come a little strong because I feel like I can be overly dedicated
or I feel like I'm absolutely right or I feel like I'm absolutely right or nothing's going to happen?
Absolutely, yes, sure.
But never question my work ethic.
And I replied back and I said something.
I don't regret saying it.
I regret that I felt like I had to say it.
I don't even want to say what it was because it's not a good look for me.
But I do.
But basically I was just like, I bet you I do more work.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I can see how.
I think I saw this email too.
That would bother me.
You saw it?
Maybe, yeah, maybe Scoop was on.
How many people were on it?
I don't know, but I was, I was so pissed.
So you called out a person specifically?
I felt like that was a personal shot at me.
Yeah.
Because that wasn't, you're not monitoring this program, right?
That was, hey, this is, why can't he do this?
And basically the thing was, we're all working hard.
why isn't he?
And I'm like,
yeah, I saw that one.
I'm like, you're out of your mind.
You're out of your mind.
Like, you want to play the work hard game?
And I think people that work hard
don't have to claim they work hard, right?
I don't come on the show and be like,
I work harder than everybody.
You know what?
I work harder than everybody.
And mostly it's fear-based
and it's insecurity-based,
no doubt about it.
But I was really triggered.
And I'm just giving Eddie play about
play the emails.
I'm like, I was so pissed.
So mentioning fear,
and I wonder who I have,
it was or whatever was said.
I saw them in Vegas.
I'm pretty sure they were there.
Were they there?
Do you know who I'm talking about?
He was there.
Yeah, I saw him right by him.
And I liked, I've had a good relationship with him.
Yeah, me too.
I think he's great.
And to see that, it's a he.
I know what I was trying.
And to see that, I was like, F him.
I know.
Well, I would just wonder if there's something going on in his life or with his
position to where he has fear.
And then he responded.
Like, Todd responded.
Actually, he reacted.
didn't respond and the reaction.
I know.
I know he's in a very high stress position.
Yes.
I think the world that we live in, and this is how I had to justify it to myself, because
I'm still pissed about that specific comment, you can say I don't talk or out.
You can say I do a bad show.
You can say I hired all you guys and that was dumb.
All that's not true by the way.
But we have a different way that we do our show, meaning it's not like we all come
from some broadcasting background.
Let's be honest.
And at times, the show doesn't sound good.
That doesn't mean the show is not good, but at times the show doesn't sound good because we aren't people that are paid to be professional sounding.
But you can not sound good and also be wildly compelling.
And I think we most of the time fit that second.
I don't sound good.
I talk fast.
My accent's a little thick sometimes.
Anyway, I don't need to get on that.
I was pissed.
But the nature of this environment now is any media whatsoever, it doesn't matter what.
what it is. It's a struggle to make money and stay afloat in general, and the pressure's on everybody.
And the pressure is at the top, and it goes all the way down. And my justification, when I thought
he's not a bad guy, was I'm sure he was stressed from up. And there's a pressure on him to perform
a certain point. And he's trying to get the most out of everybody. That comment hurt me because
that is not how I view myself. And I would think that's not how most people view me.
Correct.
So I was very offended by that.
And I replied, and I reacted, I didn't respond.
It was written.
It was right.
It was right.
And then I was just showing Eddie, and I was like, look at this.
I'm so pissed.
And I wanted Eddie to be like, hey, man, it's all good.
Don't worry about it.
Like, he doesn't mean that.
And he was like, no, dude, give it to him.
Give him the left.
Give him the right.
I mean, I was the same.
Yeah, because I'm like, well, how does, like,
not taking anything personally in business?
Because this feels a little bit different.
Like, there can be a business decision.
But this was like a personal jab at you.
It's about me specifically.
Your work ethic.
And my ethnicity.
No, I'm kidding.
It's not like you're going to say.
But Scuba's thing wasn't about him, was my point.
It wasn't about you as a person or you as a worker.
Right.
Try not take it personally.
I'm going to get it this little book and I'm going to make you read it.
You'll enjoy it and it's quick.
All right, well, we did a lot of that.
Hey, keep up to good fight though.
I will.
It shows you care.
Wait, so.
I care a lot.
When you sent whatever you sent?
I sent like three of them back.
I was firing a month.
I still got my fastball.
Was there a reply?
Do it? Like, oh, that's not, oh.
One, yeah, one person sent me just to me.
Yeah, there were replies. I'll keep those private.
I don't know. This is just...
There were replies.
Interesting.
Yeah. But I've forgotten all about it. It doesn't affect me anymore.
Mm-hmm. I haven't thought about it.
You can see that.
Anyway, Ray's from Wyoming. I have so much stuff I wanted to get to and I can have time to.
Race from Wyoming. Ray, it all started because I was asking about Tom.
Why are you talking about Tom Brady?
Yeah, Tom Brady, how he went on there and he made kind of a goat haul.
of fame or comment when you're talking about Baker Mayfield
on TV? What did he say? I mean
it's quicker to just play. Oh yeah,
go ahead. All right. I said quote, they wanted me to come
in, be myself, bring the joy back to football
for guys who weren't having as much fun.
It's funny because you've made this
environment for me very stressful up here in the booth,
so I understand where he's coming from.
Do you feel it? No. No. I was going to say,
I thought stressful was not having
Super Bowl rings. So
there was a mindset of a champion
that I took to work every day.
this wasn't daycare
if I wanted to have fun
I was going to go to Disneyland with my kids
That's so long
So awesome
You only get to be the greatest
By by cracking some eggs
And some heads
That's cool
That's good
And then I was saying
You had that quote
The other day in the hallway
I had a quote
What did you say in the hallway man
It was we had
I didn't write a quote on a board or anything
No you just set it offhand
Oh what
Well me and scuba were kind of worried
Because we had 20 seconds
Until we were about to go live
On to the air
And so I was like
Dude we got to get bones
And Scoob was like, yeah, bones got to get in there.
So like, hey, hey, Bobby, Bobby, Bones, get in there, get in there.
And you're like, hey, I'm a Hall of Famer.
Yeah, I'm in the Radio Hall of Fame.
Yeah, I was like, oh, I remember that.
Yeah, they were like 20 seconds.
And I'm just like, walking in the room.
Who gives a crap?
20 seconds.
I was like, guys, I'm in the Radio Hall of Fame.
I didn't realize, that was funny.
I died laughing.
It was awesome.
20 seconds is 10 years in this world, unless we're off the year.
After Bailey's never when this ends or whatever.
Well, me and lunchbox.
We're not in the Hall of Fame.
So when they say 20 seconds, me and lunchbox are a hall.
I do.
We're finding each other in the hallway.
I remember that.
You go, both you go 20 seconds.
That's funny.
I was like, chill, I guess.
I'm in the Hall of Fame.
I got this.
All right, we're done.
I had more to get to, but we do not have time for that.
I hope you enjoyed this.
Scuba.
Keep a good workout, buddy.
I have, yeah.
I haven't got my response back yet.
You care.
And it's so much easier.
I would rather say,
whoa,
than sick them.
Okay.
It's really important.
it's almost impossible to teach somebody sick them.
I would rather have to tell you,
hey, be a little less passionate,
try a little less,
than, hey, man, can you give me a little more?
So keep up the good work, buddy.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
And we respect you, man.
Thanks.
Idiot.
We do.
Yeah, you idiot.
All right, we're done.
Thank you guys.
And if we ever go off the air in your town,
please send us a DM and let us know where you are,
what station you're listening to and what time it is.
Because then we can, we can.
And how you're listening.
You're on the app, if you're on your radio, that's also really key.
Let us know because that's the only way we know.
Because otherwise, Scoop's an idiot.
He doesn't have anything.
All right, thank you guys.
A win is a win.
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