The Bobby Bones Show - Weds Post Show (04-06-22)

Episode Date: April 6, 2022

Amy starts by revealing the pain that has been bothering her. Morgan has us play a fun Facebook game to get to know us. We talk about stories from the show getting back to our significant others. We play a game called Alive or Not Alive that leads to a discussion about how long life is. It gets deep when we start diving into life expectations.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Morgan, do you want to play this Facebook game that you sent over? Do you have it ready? Oh, yeah, let me get it. I thought we might get to it in the show today, and we kind of ran out of time. But what happened, Amy? Oh, that was on mic. Yeah. Sorry.

You may sound like this. All right. I went, oh, I had to bend down to get my blanket. My shoulder back area just has killing me today. What happens? Sleep bad? Deadlifting? No, I just haven't seen...

Cromagaw? It's an area that bothers me frequently. It's gotten a lot better, but I just haven't seen my chiropractor and, I don't know, I was hoping someone here could just fix it. Like, you can take me pop your back? I don't know, like anybody.

If you do your arms like this, I can pop your back. Are there right now? Do you want it? I mean, sure. Give it to her. Well, the problem is, I don't want to hurt you. It won't. Because I don't think this is very, like a super healthy thing.

Ray does it too. We're on camera. We're on camera. Whoa, we'll go to your... Okay, right there. So it's not like her. Okay, so if I heard her, she agreed to this. Right, everybody?

Yes, we heard you. Ready? One, two, three. Oh, did you hear that? I heard the pop. Dang, guys. Was it good, Amy? It's just going to need a little.

It popped loud. I know. It's just something for his life. Well, I'm sorry that happened to you. Well, that's okay. Thank you for the pop. You're welcome. Okay, Morgan, ready for the game?

Yes, one second. So this is a game that Morgan sent you. that was like, hey, people can learn about us by these questions. I didn't read all the questions. I just thought it was fun. How many do you have? Yes, I have five. Okay, go ahead with question number one.

What are three names you go by? Hmm. Well, let's take our real name out of it, like Bobby. Oh, you take that out? Yeah, because everybody knows that. So, Eddie usually only calls me Bones. It's a good one. So I'm not going to say Bobby Bones either, because that's an obvious one.

Bones. Babe. At home. Sometimes I call you that No, you don't What with the other one? I mean, depending on who, douchebag Ray calls you pimp

Ray does call you pimp Or like other people in the radio industry They don't know me Dushbag Yeah, that's probably the third one Terrible. Amy? Of your names?

No, I would say If I can't say Amy It'd be like Ames, Amers, or mom Mom's a good one. Eddie? Yeah, Daddy, Daddy, my wife calls me boots we call each other boots

and then my mom calls me Wawa Is that Spanish for something I don't know? Maybe because my name's Eduardo Maybe it's short for that as Wawao Yeah lunchbox I get dad ass stud And

Can't say the other one Why is it? Because you can't think of one What could you possibly be called That you can't say right now? What's rhyme with? What? Big daddy.

Okay. Morgan, what's the next one? What? You do not get caught. What are three places that you've lived? Yeah. Let me be specific here. Little Rock, Arkansas.

Austin, Texas, Nashville, Tennessee. Obviously, taking my hometown out of that, Mountain Pine, Arkansas. Amy? Austin, Texas, Southern Pines, North Carolina, Nashville, Tennessee. Yeah. Eddie? McCallon, Texas, Austin, Texas, Nashville, Tennessee.

Lunch Rocks? Austin, Texas, San Francisco. Antonio, Texas, Nashville, Tennessee. He sounded like football players. I mean, we're a very Austin-based group. Yes, yes. I mean, that's where we all met and came from, so if you did not know that.

Morgan, what else? Three things you'd love to watch on TV. Well, I've been trying to watch the John Sina HBO superhero show. What's it called? The peacemaker. But Caitlin and I will spend our hour. We kind of dedicate an hour to watching something a couple times a week.

and she just is not interested so I don't ever bring it up. We watch just something we both agree on. Although she got a little bored last night with the dropout and she almost wanted to give up on it. Oh no. I'm still into it.

She just changed her voice. It's good. She's in the closet. She's like, oh, oh. So that, the peacemaker, I, um, shows I, that I'm not watching or that don't, that...

Just that you'd love to watch on TV. They could even be repeat shows or a movie you love. Yeah, like what's always good to you, like The Office. I would love to watch all the episodes. of the winning time, the Lakers. That's my favorite show right now.

But they're not all out. I know, it's my favorite show right? So that one, if we're just picking shows. And then... You can do sports too, right? Like, you love watching sports on TV. Yeah, but that's not a show. No, it's just anything on TV.

Yeah, I think sports counts because you like to watch it on TV. That's a show. Did you say show? Nope, just anything you'd love to watch on TV. Well, I would watch all... There you go. Amy? I would... I mean, Friends is always good.

Any real housewives and then true crime. stuff. Eddie? I love watching golf on TV, black and white movies, and I love rom-coms. Lunchbox? Sports, reality TV, like Survivor, The Challenge Anything on MTV. And porn. Well, you said it, folks. You know my nickname, don't you? It rhymes with Big Daddy. But nothing rhymes. Huh. Nothing does. He's like, I can't say it. He's like, I can't think of anything. Go ahead. Go ahead. What did I say? I said, reality TV, sports. And, I mean, I just watch comedy.

I don't know. I don't really have anything. I'm watching right now. I'm watching 30 Rock. I thought I had to get specific. Yeah, so did I. That's why everybody started going so generic. I went specific.

It's just TV, guys. Okay, go ahead, Morgan. One more. Three places you visited before. How about three places I loved visiting? How about that? That's good. Or I found interesting.

I was in Costa Rica for over a month. And the situation was difficult at times because I was working. But I really liked. being down there and learning about that culture, they don't have an army. They don't have an army. They have no military. Wow.

Peaceful country. So that was pretty cool. I really like Boston when it's not winter. Good call. Love Boston. You too. I love the people of the city. And then another place I visited that I would like to share.

It's tough. Been a lot of places. I know, but like someone, I was like, you got to go. What about your honeymoon? Yeah. You went to... Greece is good. I'm just not a big...

If you could go with Caitlin, I would recommend you go anywhere. I'm not a big beach guy. What about Japan? Far. I'm just going to go with... Where do people like to go that I went? Augusta, national course.

Oh, that's nice. I've been. I went to the Masters. That's pretty cool. It's coming up. I went to the Masters and it was awesome. Cannot wait. You can't use you. You can't have a phone in there.

You can't have it up. No phones. So pretty cool. And the hot dog's like a dollar. Yeah. Everything's old school. So those three. I really want my answers to be powerful.

I think I did it. Amy? So I always, always love going to New York. So that's top of my list and that's easy to get to. Other places that are a little bit different, Zawatanahoe, Mexico. Oh, wow. Which is the beach at the end of Shawshank Redemption. Yeah.

Yeah. It's very beautiful. And then Liverpool, England. I went to the place where the Beatles first played. You mean record, wait, first played? A hole in the wall they played. I don't know because their Liverpool is where my friend was actually going to Paul McCartney's School of Performing Arts for college. So I went over there for that.

And we went all around Liverpool to check out different historical things with the Beatles. The Cavern Club. Cavern, that's it. Yeah, the cavern. Yeah, good memory. Oh, Eddie. I love Hawaii. I love Puerto Rico.

And I love Destin, Florida. Those are my three places. That's easy. Las Vegas, amazing. Great. Go all the time. San Francisco was really cool. Oh, yeah.

And I will say, now that Eddie said Puerto Rico, I will say Puerto Rico also because I did love Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. I don't really go many places, so those are the places I've been. In, I think two weeks or so our show will be heard in San Francisco. San Jose, San Francisco, the whole Bay Area. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, I got a message like, hey. Alcatraz?

I don't know if there's no one in there. Alcatraz. Yeah, there's workers. And Scuba's pump because you have a bunch of family over there, huh? Scuba? Oh, yeah, I lived there for a while. My wife's family lives in San Francisco, the East Bay, all that. Is that good for you or bad for you?

Well, it's a combination of both because when I used to live there on the radio, my wife would always get texts about things we were talking about, and I did get in trouble a lot, so we've had to come up with some ways to not do that anymore. Like ground rules. Yeah, ground rules, yeah. Like what are the rules? I would say, though, now, even two years separated, if someone wants to hear our show, it's so easy to listen to it online.

You know, I would just think if your family wanted to hear the show, they just hit a button on a phone. But they're more old school. They're old Filipino ladies, and they don't hit the button on any phone. They're listening to the radio only. Will they tick, tick, tick, tick through the channels and find you? Yeah, I told them the frequencies, so they'll be able to listen to us.

So we're broadcasting out of San Jose, and then there's a pickup in the East Bay Bay so that expands our reach from pretty much all of the Bay area, South Bay, North Bay, East Bay. Yeah. It's pretty cool. So Scuba gets to go. go home. I remember when I first got put on on Little Rock, I was, I was, King of the Hill. It was awesome. I was like, I can't believe people at home get to actually hear the show. Yeah, that's pretty cool. It's pretty cool for the show.

Definitely. And we're real thankful to Alpha Media for picking up our show and, you know, putting us on and, you know, being a really cool partner. So there you go. Bobby, do you ever get tattled on, like, people in Oklahoma listen and text Caitlin? No, listeners do. And they don't even tell stories that are true. And it pisses me off. Oh. Way to bring that up. Because they'll be like. I'm sorry. Did you know he did this?

Or did you know four years ago before you met him? He did. And I'm like, you guys, shut up. Like there's no need for you to message my wife about something that I said four years ago that doesn't affect anything except it's just going to be something. She's like, yeah, I got this message.

Did you say? And I just like, shut up. There's no need to do that. Yeah. That's why she's not even on Instagram for most of the time. That's why her comments are off because people are just jerks. So anyway. All right.

I'm sorry. I brought up bad. You feel good about that? No. I just. Well, school was talking about getting tattled on, so I mean, I thought it was a good relatable subject to Bobby. It is. Yeah, and it was.

The fear of being without your phone makes you a more dangerous driver. People with severe nomophobia are 85% more likely to pick up their devices while behind the wheel. If I drive and Caitlin's with me, which is a decent amount of time, I just give her my phone because I try not to be on my phone when I text or when I drive. And so I just give it to her so I know there's no option of me to grab it. But while she has it in my head, I start to romantic. I don't know all the cool things happening on my phone right then.

I'm like, I bet you I'm getting some good texts right now. It's funny you just ask her. I bet you on Twitter right now there's some good info being breaking that I can't even be a part of the company. It's just the group.

And then I pick it up after like a 25 minute ride I don't get one freaking text and Twitter sucks. But the whole time I'm imagining all the amazing things that are happening on my phone right now. Probably got some awesome DMs.

For sure. So. But do you ever look around when you're driving and just see everybody on their phone? Yeah. Like I mean, you look, it's amazing how many people are on their phone.

And sometimes if somebody like swerves a little bit Oh yeah You don't think they're drunk anymore You just think it on their phone Correct The only time that I will grab my phone And I don't do it when Caitlin's in the car But I told you at a red light

I'll grab my phone If my, I turn my But I tell you this I don't even do that anymore hardly Only because I turn my notifications off So I don't hear a bruh So but if I do Sometimes if I'm sitting there

And I'm like looking real quick I'll get a honk And I'm like, oh sorry I'll put it back down in the drive So I will look at it a little bit When I'm stuck But I get that honk The other thing that is

scary when you drive. If you're not fully paying attention and that car to the left of you is in that turn lane and it gets a green arrow to go and you think everybody's going. You're like, oh God. And because you're not fully paying attention, that'll get you too. Let's see.

I have a game. One more game we can play. The game is called, it's for Amy, alive or not alive. And I thought we we weren't going to play this on the air. It seemed a little too morbid for that crew. We have before. The people that listen live and only alive, they're a surface.

You know, they're not in, they're not as end of the cult as we are and as you guys are that listen to this. You know, we're at this point, you're listening to us, you're watching on Facebook, you're listening to the podcast. Like, we're the deep down team. We got you, you got us. This game is not for the people that listen live at 622 in the morning, you know? Yeah. Amy, alive or not alive? Hank Williams, Jr.

Alive? You have a clip, right? Yep. That's not him. Wow. That's not him. I'm glad we didn't do this on the air. Okay, look.

Hank Williams Jr. is alive. He's 72 years old. And I said that. Yeah. Yeah, good. Brenda Lee, who has this song right here. Rocking around. Christmas tree at the Christmas party.

Do you think Brenda Lee has passed away? Deceased. Brenda Lee is alive. And I think she lives here. She's still probably listening. Listening. She loves near me. We see her sometimes.

Yeah, 77. I saw her at a fundraiser. Pretty amazing. She was like, tell Amy, I'm still kicking. Whoops. I forgot to tell you, or you got that right. Kirk Douglas. Captain Kirk?

Oh, my gosh. Captain Kirk's fictional. So he'll always be alive. That's true. Kirk Douglas, rest in peace, Kirk. Do you know who he is? No. He is Michael Douglas' dad.

Looks just like him. He died at 103 years old in 2020. Wow. Sean Connery. Oh, he died. Yeah, not alive. Sean Connery. Why do we say not alive?

Is it less harsh than dead? Because it's written here, not alive. Sean Connery's dead. Just reading on the page here, not alive. Oh, because the game's called Alive or Not Alive. Wow. Yeah. I just thought alive or dead.

I don't know. I guess you would say dead or alive, then you were going to use those two. Like Bon Jovi. Wanted dead or alive, like the old posters. Dick Van Dyke. Rest in peace. 96 years old and alive

Alive? Has a wife that's like 45 or 50? No way. Good for him. I saw him in Disneyland. A long time ago like when I was in high school. Larry King. Alive. Not alive.

Oh, when did he die? Last year at age 87. Oh yeah. Okay, I remember. Bob Barker. Oh. Gosh. I know he's retired.

But he died. But did he retire of life? He's alive. He's 98. Oh, Amy, you're just killing people. Little Richard, and here's a clip of one of Little Richard's hits. He's alive. Not alive.

Died. 87 years old, 2020. Dang, COVID. President Jimmy Carter. Hold on. Obama, Bush, Biden. Jimmy Carter is one of the four presidents that are currently alive. 97 years old and alive.

Oh. Yeah. Thank you. There you go. All right, see, there's the game. That's why we didn't play it on the air. Wasn't extremely compelling. We tried, but it's, and then you start to feel sad.

Yeah. Then you're like, you start to question your own mortality. Am I alive? Am I dead? I was talking about this in therapy last night. I'm already halfway. The average life expectancy is 78 and a half, and I just turned 41. Like, we're already halfway through our lives.

Yeah, but it feels like a long time. You know, everyone always says, like, life is short. And I was, I was like, oh, okay, people just say that. I'm with you, Amy. I've just finally, like, thought it. Like, wow, our time is running out. Do you not remember this whole situation? I walked you guys through weeks ago.

Yeah, we're going to go back down this path. What? Refresh my memory. If you, a tortoise. Uh-huh. Who's been around here for centuries. The big old turtle. Yeah.

They live for hundreds of years. They would look at us and go, that's a short life that humans live. We look at a fruit fly. Oh, yeah, this. Oh, yeah. And we go, a fruit fly lives for a day. Like, that's a short life. Can we skip it?

We remember it now. We got it. We got it. No, no, no. Hey, man, it's all bad. And a fruit fly who lives a day. Yeah. That is the total length of their life.

So they feel like that's long. I know, but they're not making. We're not fruit flies. Right. Nor are we tortoises. Right. Right. So what's...

My point is that life is both long and short, depending on the perspective. I know. I know, but let's not talk. And now it's starting to be shorter to you because you're getting near the end of it. Our life expectancy. No, I'm going to live forever. But.

You're not. You ever see Peter Pan? You're not him. How do you know? So, my point is, and I'll say it again, that life is not short or long. Life is just from the perspective of things that live longer and shorter than you. But also then there's the perspective, which is what I was bringing up. in therapy was that like are we like are you living like you might be alive because like my pastor

recently shared a quote from mark twain which is most men die at 27 we bury them at 72 so like some people are dying like not literally dying but like you're not living this full life and you just kind of like shut down because of certain things and you're not living to your full potential and then you know all these years go by and then you actually are dead And I just been thinking about that. I'm like, am I living? My response would be, you're absolutely living and I'm gonna tell you why. I know I'm living.

No, no, I'm not talking about that. But if you go out every single day and go balls to the wall, and I'm gonna live my life and be the great, that you're stretching yourself so thin and you're doing things that normal people don't do every day. And that's why normal people get to live longer because they're not out jumping out of planes every day. You start doing this bull crap that's like,

I just want to live, you're probably gonna die. You're probably gonna die a lot sooner because of all of that extra living. Right. So in grand total, if you live to be 75 or 72, or 70s, all the little times that you feel really like you've really lived,

and you go, I don't know that I've lived, because they've been little moments. You had all them together. You probably lived way more than the 27-year-old who had this great life who died early. So don't look at it like that. Well, I don't need a... Well, you heard the quote, and it inspired you.

I'm not even pep-talking you. I'm just saying you can live to be 75 and feel like, am I even living? But yes, you've had brief... middle-sized moments of living that you're probably happy you didn't go balls to the wall. Yeah, I'm not trying to go balls to the wall. And I don't want to jump out of planes or off cliffs and stuff by any means. But it's just like sometimes just internally and like making sure that there's there's beauty in the small things and like that I can really get joy from the small

thing. It doesn't have to be this big extravagant like facing fear and life event. But like in the day to day in the mundane. Am I taking it in? Am I, or am I kind of sometimes just like dead inside? But I'm also going to give it the perspective of, I think it's just a point in your life when regardless of what you're living, if you are taking it all in, or you're not, you're going to find what you're not doing and start to go, I wish I was doing that. Am I even living? It doesn't matter if you're taking in the little things, the big things. Whatever you're not, you're going to feel like, I don't feel like I'm getting my full potential. So this is a common thing to people who live their life.

Like, should I not live my life as crazy? And like settle down and have kids and get that part of it. You know, the mundane. Like, I'm missing the mundane that everyone has. And they get to benefit from these long-term relationships. Every day is not fun. There's a bunch of crap. In the minutia of, this is the same crap.

But people who don't go through that want that. I know. And people who go through that don't want that. Correct. So regardless of where you are, when you hit a point, you're going to just feel like that anyway. So it's knowing that this feeling is common. It's okay.

You try to make yourself better by about 6%. But you kind of are who you are at this point. And you should appreciate the things you are doing and you're doing well. And you're always living. Well, whatever. You are. It's like the grass is always greener. It's with everything.

I learned that traveling. Like, you know, I used to, when I was younger, I'm like, oh, travel. I want to travel and see the world. And then when you're there for longer than like two weeks, you start realizing this is just a place. Two days. For you, two days. Everybody probably is different. Two weeks.

Yeah. Everybody, how long was vacation? I'm just saying. I mean, what kind of life you live in? Like, people that live there are just living the same life you are just in a different environment. People will go to where I'm from and go, this is so beautiful. This is God's. And I agree, but I grew up there.

I've seen it every day in my life. It is just that they're, yeah, because there are mountains and bunch of trees and rivers and it's outdoors. But to me, it's place. I liked it. But I saw it every single day. But to some people who aren't, it's my point, as we reflect back at 10 minutes ago, because they weren't there, they look at that as something

that could be greater. It's only because they weren't there. So, don't feel like you're missing out because you're not doing those things and that you're not living your life. You're living your life in ways that people that are doing those things

don't have. Yeah. There are days, though, man. I feel like I'm just dying. Yeah, me too. I just sucks. I'm slowly nice. Yeah.

I mean, you're going to have that, dude. Okay. It's all right. I happen to have this book right here. Sean Aniquis, because I just interviewed her for my podcast. I guess I haven't learned yet. And I earmarked and highlighted this one sentence that says, I want to live with an extremely low bar for delight. Like being a person that's easily

delighted in the small things. And I think that that takes intention. I don't want to be easily delighted. Yeah, I wanted something to blow me away. I don't want a candy bar to be like, oh my God. I mean, that means you. I do. I want the candy bar to blow me away. Like I'm going to be like, wow, this candy bar is so good. I want to create expectations and then meet them myself and also have them met at a semi-frequency. But sometimes- And I believe if I'm not meeting the expectations to give, I shouldn't be expecting on the other side.

And they're not always met. But I don't want to be delighted at every small thing. Yeah, Amy, the only way you're going to have that happens if you lock yourself in a house for a year and then come out and the world's changed so much and you're seeing stuff for the first time, that's not true. That's not at all with that saying. I can wire my brain in this way.

And it doesn't mean that I don't have other feelings and emotions of pain and suffering, but that also helps mold me into things. I can still be purposeful about small, delightful things. Yes, I don't want to lower the bar, which is kind of an overarching. Everything is more delightful. But I think there are certain areas that you can appreciate things a little more that maybe you've been taking for granted. I don't mean you, I mean in general, because I do that too. There are areas that I have to go, and I have to.

And I shouldn't like have such an expectation and I shouldn't not be enjoying or learning from this. Yeah. Not a bar, but certain areas where I lack. Expectations can be tricky. They're necessary in some cases. But other times if you have expectations out there, they can, like in you're holding too tightly to it. And not in specific cases, it can be just expectations. can be future resentments.

Sure, but expectations also are how you... On people. On people. It's kind of... On people. But again, I have expectations for people. Right, they're always going to let you down, though. But some are appropriate and healthy.

Yes, but my point is, I don't think there's a universal rule there. No. And there's not a right answer because with humans, some of my best friends have come from expectations, and they don't meet every expectation in every category. Right. I have some people that are awesome and they suck in certain areas. but I kind of know that at this point.

And Caitlin talks about that too. She's like, I know who this person is. And I love them for all this stuff. And they lack in this category. So I don't have a high expectation here. But I have a high expectation of life and how our friendship is and what we're going to invest in each other.

So again, I don't think there's a universal expectation that you can require or seek. But I do, I think expectations are amazing. I have high expectations on myself. I have high expectations on my wife and of my close friends. And then I don't always meet them. And I don't always meet them.

But I think you don't actually reap the greatest reward unless you do have those expectations. Otherwise, it's like, well, let's just see what happens. And if it's not good, no, I want the best. And I want to give the best. But if it's not good, then you love them anyway. That's the beauty of not having the expectation. Yes, but the expectations create even a greater love. But you're setting yourself up for, like, I'm going to let you down.

I don't think that's loser talk. I think that there's different categories of expectation. There's, there's reasonable, I know. It's loser talk to not set an expectation because you don't want to be let down. Don't call me a loser. That's like not trying because you don't want to fail. That's loser talk. And sometimes you fail.

Like, I don't want to fail. But how is that a friendship thing? Like, a friendship isn't competition. No, but it's just something you work toward and you grow and you have to put time in and get better at. For sure it is. Like, you've become a better friend of Bobby because you're on time now. Like, you used to be a little, you used to let him down in that category about being on time. And now you're not.

Yeah, and I try to value your family time and make sure you have what you need. I didn't know that. grown to understand and appreciate that. Sure. So to go, I don't want to set an expectation because I don't want to be let down is like going, I don't want to try because I don't want to fail. You're going to be let down. You're also going to fail.

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't try instead of, and put a goal out there. So I'm a big believer in expectations. You don't always met, but you're not going to get the greatest out of anything unless you have high expectations. That's weird. But that's how our personalities are different. It's different. Our personalities are completely different in that way.

And I would say I'm somewhere in the middle. middle of that. Like, I have certain expectations, obviously, but then other ones I've got to let go of because I don't, I don't even want to have that resentment. There's no reason for me to put that pressure there, so it doesn't matter. I just eliminate it. And it's fine. And understand that someone, they didn't, sometimes, too, we can have these unrealistic expectations. All of mine are, every one of them. I need to know that like, that someone didn't, they also maybe didn't mean to let you down. They didn't know they were letting you down because they didn't know the expectation was there. We didn't know we were being evaluated.

Steve Jobs, the most unrealistic expectations that are in the history of the world. And he had no friends, I bet. Would constantly... No real friends. Sure, but he also changed the world in ways, right? It's a sacrifice. For what, though? For what? I love my iPhone.

You changed the world for what? I mean, you like that computer? Communication in general, how we communicate with people all over the world in every way. But your friendship is more important than whatever I just created. But maybe I don't have friends if it weren't for me being able to communicate. Or friends that I can't keep up with as well because something wasn't developed for me to do that. And I'm not comparing Steve Jobs to this, but I'm saying I am unhealthy in the way of, I have expectations for myself higher than anybody has for me and of the relationships that I'm in. And I think when you look at the personalities here, they're in three different levels.

Eddie's like hang loose guy. If it happens, it happens, it doesn't, it doesn't. In every way. Because it's going to happen that way anyway. I don't think so. I think things happen the amount of work you put into them. If that were going to happen, we'd just hang out and let everything happen. you have a bunch of losers laying around the beach all day.

You have to actually... They're not losers because they're laying around the beach all day. That's what they were meant to do all day. Yeah, there are people on the beach all day selling seashells, and that's what they do. They're not creating computers. Well, Bonnie wasn't telling the people that were selling seashells. He wasn't calling them losers. Yeah, not at all.

Well, you have to make a living. No, that's what we're talking about. You have to make a living? There are people laying around beach all day. That'd be awesome. I mean, really, if you had no responsibilities, just lay the... Oh, that'd be miserable. That'd be miserable.

Different personalities. They'd be miserable. Like, I mean, what was that documentary where the dad, like, he had the kids in the van, they just drove around their whole life? Oh, surf-wise. So there was a dad, right? He had a married couple, and they had, how many kids? Like, five kids. No more than that.

They had, like, 12 kids or something. Oh, was it 12? I don't remember. And then they, the dad was a doctor. He quit his practice, and they bought a van, and they drove the whole family to all these beach surf spots. I just surfed all over the world. They drove from one beach to another for years. Years.

Be miserable. And then they interviewed the kids and they're all like, it was the worst childhood ever, ever. And the dad was like, I was living my dream. And the mom was like, we loved it. But the kids were like, it was terrible because we had no childhood. That's sad. It sounds miserable as an adult I do too. I would hate to have no responsibilities.

But some people would like that. And again, we all have different personalities where Amy said she's kind of in the middle. Yeah, I mean, I'd like to have no responsibilities with a lot of money. It'd be great. But I think actually, if you were in that, it would be kind of miserable. Well, I also think most people that want no responsibility. responsibility don't have a lot of money, generally speaking. Unless you come from a really wealthy, wealthy family and get it passed down to you, and that's point 0.001. Sure. Those two don't

really match. And that's why you don't have a lot of people that do that. Yeah. But I see those people like, oh, I just got a VW band. I'm driving all over to state parks. I'm like, man, that's cool. Then go do that. You can do that. I got kids and I got to make money. That's what I'm saying. I wish I just had a bunch of money so I could do that. But you also do have a really good job. That's what I'm saying. I would rather not have a good job and just have a lot of money and be able to go do stuff. But I feel like I think you're missing. Those two don't really match.

No, I understand what you're saying. That's why I'm saying. I wish I was. It's like somebody that's two foot tall that also wins a slam dunk contest. That's legit. They don't quite mad. You might eventually have somebody that's super spikin, but it's so low percentage. Yeah.

But yeah, like Steve Jobs, like Eddie says, I feel like his life sucked. in a way that you would find your value in. Maybe in relationships. Because I watch some of these people, and I'm like, do they ever have any fun? Like, do they ever, like, do anything to relax? Me, you said that about me. Yeah, you, you don't.

Well, Caitlin's made you do a little bit more. Sure, but my point is, in your value system, Steve Jobs had a miserable life. Your value system assigned to him. If you were to ask him, he probably was able to fulfill the things that he wanted to do in the way that he wanted to do them. Like the Kardashians, they got the life.

They are super rich. They fly private and they do anything they want whenever they want. No privacy. They can't. Hey, lunchbox, I agree. But really, they can't go everywhere they were. Their life is amazing. There's always a sacrifice. But don't build your value system in trying to address the success of somebody else. That's good.

Because you are going, Steve Jobs, that sucks. To you and what you think is worthy. To him, his whole life and purpose may have been, to create, develop, and make earth, have Earth communicate better. Yeah. And that was able to happen. That's his value system.

He did. And I thank him for it. Because, I mean, it's great. And you're right, he maybe didn't have great friendships or family. I can't remember. What was the show, yeah, or the movie or the book, something we were watching, like, his daughter's perspective. That may not have been important to him.

Right. And I get it. I just think. And Eddie does, and Eddie thinks if you pay somebody less, they'll work harder. That's right. We're going back to that. Well, I just all kind of. of fits in the same bubble.

Like when you shake the snow globe, all that kind of shows that. Anyway, we are done. I don't know what's up. Amy pulled out a book in the middle of this. I mean, Amy started bringing a book out. Amy has a midlife crisis right on the air. I'm actually not. I'm coming out of the midlife crisis.

So you think you're dead inside? Not midlife crisis. She did say that. Like, are you dead inside, Amy? Like, seriously, you said that. No, I said that makes me ask myself, am I, am I dead inside? Am I living? Like, what choices am I?

It's bigger than this conversation right here. It just is a quote that will make you think of like, okay, and when you approach like halfway through, if you make it to the life expectancy, like, what, sometimes it comes to like, what is, you know, my health is. What is your truth? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what my truth is. It's hard for me to figure out sometimes my truth.

Like, I don't know because sometimes I'm always worried about other people and what they're going to think or what other people in my family or whatever are thinking or feeling when really it's hard of course what they feel and think is important it matters but like ultimately i have to make some decisions for myself and that's what's hard to do because that's it's just hard i think a great thing too is when reading these books that are talking about things that have substance and value is not to assign everyone's theory and opinion to your life based on your personality. Someone that lives a life like Eddie should not read my books and go, man, that's it. That's what I miss it.

Because it's like a food when your body doesn't react to it. If you are, you eat gluten and it makes you feel terrible. Well, don't, you shouldn't eat things with gluten in it. There are other things you can do to get that that will actually help you. and so Eddie I'm gluten anything I say is gluten

Eddie doesn't eat gluten no it's I'm allergic to it but some people who love gluten and it actually helps their body this is for them so don't hear what any of us are saying and go that it's universal

because that's the one thing nothing is universal except oxygen and water and you need sleep that's it I mean you say taxes and death Wesley Snipes

yeah what about him Indian pays taxes got one to jail Wesley Snipes is in jail Eddie, this is like from the 90s. He's in jail now? No, nobody was.

Lime or not alive? Man, I must have missed that one. But, Amy, I see what you're saying about your family. You worry about them judging you because I mean, I think I worry about my brother and sister being jealous of me. Classic. That makes sense. They probably are. Yeah.

Except they don't, they probably don't value what you do and why you do it the same way you do. Oh, you don't think they want fame? They probably do not care. They probably do not care. My wife does not want fame in any way. She wants the opposite. it. So the things that I'm like trying to achieve and hit, to her, it couldn't, that part of it, the notoriety. She understands like creating and having a goal and accomplishing, but she does not

like the, we'll just say fame because the easy word, the fame of it. She's like, wow, how could you, how do you like that? People know. And so that could possibly be the same way your brothers and sisters are. They're proud of you for what you do, but they probably don't care about that you're famous. Oh, I figure they do. Maybe you're right. You know what better than I do. All right, we're done. I gotta go eat. The 58-year-old actor was sentenced to three years in prison back in 2008 and fined $5 million bucks. Five million dollars.

Dang. You find people who can't pay their taxes. I wonder if you ever get that. I know, right? Go ahead. Makes sense. You said, hey. No, I was just thinking about Willie, too. He didn't do jail town, though, right?

He paid it. He made a record, I believe. He did a tour. Yep. And then that's how he paid it back. I think it was called like the taxes. I need to pay my taxes to it. Definitely had something there.

Yeah. It was called the IRS tapes. That's it. That's hilarious. All right. Well, there we go. This is a lot longer. I was just trying to do this.

Played a live or dead game. Go have a little salad. Good talk, man. Not really. Yeah, it is a good talk. I mean, I don't know. Why was it not? I don't know for a podcast.

Why? Why was it not? I don't understand. No, I think maybe for a podcast it's terrible. But for just life, But this is a podcast. There are a podcast about this. What's the argument here?

This is what four things with Amy Brown is. Oh, gosh. Yeah, yeah. I think it's funny. I'm like, wait, is this terrible? I'm never talking about this in a podcast. I thought I was very interested. I guess mostly if I was going to talk about this,

I would come in a little more prepared and not just roll from a death thing to. But that's okay. No, I know. But I'm telling you that's why I'm like, oh, I could have definitely thought about it more. Instead, I'm just like shooting off the hip. Yeah, see, those are your high expectations. But it is good. And there we have it.

And lunchbox pointily closes it. Wow. Thanks, buddy. Oh, man, I'd be more prepared. And we're like, thanks, buddy. Let's do it from the dome. There's always a higher expectation. All right, that is it.

Thank you. And I believe, listen to sore losers today. Yeah, yeah, sore losers today. Absolutely. You're not doing it? No, we did. He messed up. He was so excited about Kansas.

He wanted to do one yesterday. No, no, but it's going out today. Like, I wanted to do it. Why not put it out yesterday? That's what I thought you put it out yesterday. No, no, because we always put it out Monday, Wednesday, Friday. You can be doing an emergency podcast.

That's what I thought we were going to do. And so I just wanted the... Or you can do four. You could do that. Because there are times we're like, well, let's just do an extra one because what we're doing is so important. We've done that. We've done that. But then if I tell them we're going to do another one today, guess what their reaction is going to be like?

We just did one yesterday. Well, sometimes you got to be the boss. And so... Yeah, who's the boss of this place? Me, for sure. So I just wanted to... I wanted the emotions to be real right after the game. Like, the day after, like, not have days to...

Oh, you know, I'm... I should have just upload it. one with you just going Yeah, because I mean I'd be bored listening to it Not just this, but like the Super Bowl, if they put it on a place on Tuesday I'd be like, I wanted to hear that Monday or Yeah. I'm on to the next thing.

Not with this specifically, but I'm saying that as how much. And I'll be like, oh, I don't want to listen to something. Yeah, you're right. Maybe we should have done an extra one this week. You guys want to do another one today? But if it's going to talk about it. But if it's going to go on today, that you don't do another one today. No, I know. I know. You have one for today already. See?

And I'm sure it's great. I'm sure it's great. People should listen to it. It's going to be awesome. Yes. Me, just on cloud nine. And what are you going to say about your point? Nothing. I have a question. I'll ask you off air.

It's like just a thought that I had about because you said, load it up, get more down there, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. What do you got? I'll help you? No, I'll talk through it.

Yeah, you guys do that meeting. Let me know how it goes. I'll talk through it. You want me to run it by them first and then bring it to you? All right. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye, everybody. Bye, E.

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