The Bobby Bones Show - Women of iHeartCountry with Amy Brown: Guest Cam

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

A special edition of a Women of iHeartCountry interview and performance. Amy welcomes Cam! Amy and Cam talked about her new single, motherhood and getting to open up recently for Eric Church. She also performed her song “Burning House”. And be sure to check out Women of iHeartCountry on your local iHeartCountry station every weekend hosted by Amy! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Cam also performed her song Burning House. And we got into the story behind writing that song, and the first time she remembers hearing it on the radio. We also talk motherhood, her getting to open up for Eric Church recently, and all that she has coming up. So we got all that inside this episode with Cam. And you can listen to Women of IHeart Country, hosted by me, every weekend. Just check out your local IHeart Radio station or search Women of IHeart Country on your iHeart Radio app.

But here it is, a special edition of Women of IHeart Country with Cam. Let's go, girls. Women of I Heart Country with Amy Bird. In studio now with Cam. Cam, thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having me. It's so fun to see your face. It's not very far to just drive down the road. I know. It's so nice to see you in person. Yes. Okay. So your album, the other side, it came out back in October 2020. And I'm about to debut a single from it called Till There's Nothing Left. And how did you decide to make that one your next single? I mean, it just has like

a good vibe. I feel like, and it's really fun. Like we've been playing it live and it was, for Halloween, we did it at a show and you'd see like a squid game character and a Where's Waldo and like a Telethubing? They're all like dance and like, till there's nothing left. And I feel like that's what this whole song kind of like makes you move, you know?

It's just, I don't know, it's like a, the end of the night when you're making out with your boyfriend in the car and you don't want to go inside. You know, like I just want to stay in this moment. So it has a good feel. And that's the best I can do is just go on gut, I guess. Yeah, I saw it started with maybe, be a voice memo and a bottle of wine.

Yeah. I know. Well, we had a really bad writing day, which people don't normally talk about, but like, a lot of times you walk away with nothing. I was like, oh, okay, so I'm just going home, going to bed. And Hillary Lindsay and Tyler had kind of stayed up drinking wine, and Hillary recorded this voice note, like,

playing on the drums herself and singing the la la la la la la I don't know, no. Like so hip, you know, and she sent that over. I was like, okay, this is the vibe. Like we got a, that's like nugget you want you want like a little thesis statement that you can build the rest of the song around and that sort of set it like in that in that in that groove and in that la la la there's like this this sexiness

and this love to it and so we just kind of built the whole you know I want to give you all of me till there's nothing left like around that whole idea and then what about the wine where did that come in and what's your favorite kind of wine yeah right the wine I mean that was actually that was Hillary and Ty drinking the wine that night the I talked about tell you what, like I first started drinking wine in college. We were in Davis, like, near Napa. And so I, like, had this boyfriend that was, like, supplying the really nice wine, basically at that time. And I feel like I got so snotty about it. And I was really into Pino Noir. And then when I had to pay for my own wine, I was like, I need to just go back to Francia, you know,

work my way back around. And now it kind of just rotates with the seasons, but I'm really into Pino Noir right now. So I saw also with the song, till there's nothing left, that, you know, you know, I'm going to part of your grandmother's conversation with you when you were 12 years old about the birds and the bees. Tell us about that. Yeah, if it's okay to tell you about that. Go for it. Okay, okay. So I kind of was like blushing a little bit.

I mean, obviously I have a kid, so the cat's like out of the bag. But like I was blushing a little bit because there's like, you know, the song's about giving someone all of your heart, mind, body, soul, you know, all that entails. And there's a backseat line. You know, it's not super overt, but there's, you know, I was like kind of blushing singing about, you know, getting it on the back seat. And I had to have this, like, moment with my guardian angel, which is my grandma Marvel. And just like, she was raised on a farm, Saskatchewan Baptist, like Salt of the Earth. Nothing phased her. Like, she owned her experience so fully, you know.

And like, she was the one who gave me the Birds and the Bees talk when I was 12, unbeknownst to my parents. And she just said it like this. She said, Cameron Marvel, because her name was Marvel, my middle name is Marvel, Cameron Marvel. Sex is like a milkshake. Once you have it, you're always going to want it. And it was like, you know, if my grandma can own it, you know what I mean?

As storytellers, you have to own all pieces of this story. Like if you're going to leave something out, you're not sitting in it. You know, you're not being real. So then I can own it. So now when I play it live, I'm always like, this is for you, grandma. Well, let's play it now. Here's, Till There's Nothing Left by Cam on Women of I Heart Country.

We're in studio now with Cam, and you've got your guitar player with you. What's your name? Simon. Simon, welcome to Women of Iheart Country. Thank you. It feels good. So you're about to perform Burning House. And I want to go back to when you first wrote the song.

What was the idea in the writing room that day? Well, I think it first started, I literally just had the dream. Like I had a boyfriend that was actually the one who was supplying the wine, like we were just talking about when we were on again, off again in college. And he was a big part of my life. So when it ended and I didn't handle it well, like I broke up with him in a not very nice way, I felt really bad about it. And like a couple years later I was going to see him at this mutual friend's party.

And I thought, okay, this is my chance to sort of set it right, not to get back together, but just so that he knows that I know, you don't treat people like that, even if you're not going to be together forever. You can still be sweet to them, you know? So I was planning this apology and went to bed with all this on my mind,

and you know how like whatever you're thinking about kind of seeps into your dreams, you know? So I dreamt that there was this house on fire and I'm like running towards it and the emergency crews are like, you can't go in there, he's in there, like, meaning my ex, but the house is about to come down and I'm like a hero, right?

So I run straight in, find him, can't get him out. So instead of leaving and saving myself, I lay down next to him and hold him so he doesn't have to die alone. And I called my buddy Tyler, like the next morning being like, you won't believe this dream that I had, like, all the guilt and stuff. He was like, started singing back the exact words that I had said. Like, I had a dream about a burning house. I was like, oh, shh. Like, try not to swear. But, like, that is amazing.

Like, immediately you know what some. someone's talking about there's like such a visceral reaction for people when I sing the song like I see it in their eyes like I met this girl who like had the same dream apparently like reoccurring and was going to therapy for it like she came up to me after a show and told me about it and I was like okay so like fill me in on what the therapist said so I don't have to like pay for therapy yeah she goes it means that there's something in your life that you cannot fix and either it's in someone else or it's in the past and it's not yours to control anymore and you have to accept it.

And I was love that. I feel like people have different reasons for love in this song, but I think that's like the connector, I think, for a lot of the different stories that people tell me. Do you remember the first time you heard this,

or Burning House played on the radio? I mean, I remember us being here and coming in and doing the show. Like we had just done the, we'd just on the Opry. And I came in and Bobby was like, I think I was doing another, I think I was doing my mistake as a single.

And he was like, but there's this other song you sang at the opera. Like, will you play another song? We play that, that Burning House song. And we played it, and it, like, shot up the iTunes charts. Like, all the listeners were just, like, so stoked on it. And it was that day, because Sony was going through, like, a transition, my label. And the label called, and they were like, we are making this the single, like, today. Like, come in right now.

I've never seen a corporation move that fast. It doesn't happen with bureaucracy normally. And it was like incredible. So that was like the most memorable time, like driving home and you know how you can kind of like hear stuff like when they're doing like recaps and stuff on the show. And you guys are like, oh, we just had cammon and this. I was like, and watching the iTunes charts. It was amazing. Oh yeah.

When you performed it, we all had goosebumps. What about the day that it went number one? What do you remember from that day? I feel like that was in, I want to say it was in December. I think at that point it was just like it's such a. you've been, you know, kind of like working so hard, but also at the same time, it doesn't feel real. And I think that's when the album was dropping at the same time. And I just found out I had been nominated for a Grammy, too.

And I think I was like, it's hard to take it in. You know what I mean? Where you're like, because anything, it feels like amazing to hear about it, but it doesn't, like, go inside your body, if that makes sense. You're like, I know this is amazing. but it doesn't, I can't fully absorb how amazing it is. You know what I mean? Yeah, like is this really happening to me or am I watching it? Yes, exactly.

And it's, it is amazing, but it's kind of funny how like in the moment, like, looking back, it's almost easier to appreciate it than it was in the actual moment because you're like, it's such crazy and you're tired and doing all the stuff. Well, how about we play Burning House now? You ready? Yes, I would love that. All right, here's Cam performing Burning House on Women of I Heart Country. Two of us went up in small.

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BetterH-E-L-P-L-C-L-com slash Bobby. BetterHelp.com slash Bobby. Okay, so I know earlier Cammy mentioned about being a mom. And so your daughter's going to be two. Yes. I can't believe it. What if one day she grows up, little Lucy. I hope she does.

Yeah, she will. And she says, hey, mom, I think I want to be a country singer or any kind of singer, for that matter. What advice would you have for her? I mean, she already is really musical, which probably most kids are, but she acts out, like singing to, you know, do you want to be a snow? Or can we build a snowman? That thing. Like, she does the movements, like gets down on the floor,

leans against the door. She's, like, very theatrical. I think she's kind of a born entertainer, it seems like. So if she wants to go into something with entertainment, like, I mean, I'm all for the creative pursuit. And I think I probably would just try and, if she listens to me, give her something, like, along the lines of, like, thick skin about it. it being like not just the creative pursuit but also a business you know trying to like get her

skin kind of ready for the blows that come along with the business pursuit but yeah I'd be down no so I saw I think you posted something from 97 about you know you were like fake auditioning for scream were were you ever like on track to be an actress in any way shape or form I mean you would think so from my home video skills you saw like I was 12 and we used to make all that, like anyone that, I think if you got your hands on a camcorder, you were like, let's make a movie. You know, like, that was like the thing to do. But I, no, I, my parents were like very practical. They were like, you should do something that can make you money and like creative things are too slim of a chance, you know?

So I always thought I was going to be like a psychologist or like a psychology researcher. At one point I wanted to be a Supreme Court justice. Like I had all other kinds of ideas and I did music on the side. And then one, I think like when I was 24, I finally was like, I love music so much. And I'm not sure about doing psych research. And I went to the head of the lab at Stanford. I was working there. And I was like, what do you think I should do?

Should I pick music or should I pick psychology? Because I feel really torn. And she was like, picture yourself 80 years old. And looking back on your life, what would you regret missing out on? Missing out on music or missing out on psychology. And it made it so clear. I was like, I got to give it a shot. Like, who knows if it's going to work, but I got to do it, at least to say I did it.

And I'm glad I did it. I also want to go back to that low-key flex you threw in there of you were just, you know, went to your professor at the lab at Stanford. I know. So, I know. It's like, oops. Well, I did that. Yeah. Yeah.

No. I mean, that's, yes, you were on the trajectory of going like a completely different direction. But in a way, I know psych research is different than like actually. being a psychologist. Yeah, yeah. But music is therapy. It is. And I think it's the same pursuit.

I think, like, me doing psych research, and I think anybody who, like, love reading psychology, like, the attachment theory stuff that people are into, like, that's something we studied. Like, everyone just trying to figure themselves out in their relationships and the people around them, you know, we're just trying to understand. And I think that's what music is for me, too.

Like, my songwriting is me just trying to understand myself and the people around me and, like, how it works and why it does or doesn't work and, you know, just feeling around in the dark, basically. Well, I'm forever attached to Burning House because I got goosebumps hearing you perform it again, you know, several years later. I know you've always been such a big supporter of that one. It means a lot.

Yeah, well, no, a lot of your music. Like, we love a lot of what you put out. So I, too, am glad that you chose to pursue music. You never know. And I feel like, that's an encouraging story for people to hear of like, hey, Yeah, if you don't try it, you'll never know. Yeah. And it's easier said than done.

Yes. And not, you know, not everybody. It's not going to work out. And sometimes it has nothing to do with your good or not good. And sometimes you want to do it and you're not good. And there's all kinds of reasons that it's going to work out. But I think if it's in your heart to do something, for me, I'd rather do it and have it work or not work rather than later on, like, what the professor said. Like, I'd rather, I'd hate to regret something at the end of my life.

I'd rather just have done it and know one way or another personally. Who are some musical heroes for you? So I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area, and I felt like the coolest people to me were kind of like indie bands that were like on stage and sort of like, you know, F the system, whatever. So I loved St. Vincent. And I guess she's not fully that.

But like, and just like all these like bands I would go see that, I honestly don't even know if they're all around anywhere. I love Indigo Girls. I actually got to go play with them. They played the Rhyman and they brought me on stage and I got to like sing. They had me sing one of my songs and then sing with them and I just was like, oh, it was amazing. Oh, no, that's how it's like making me want to right now sing Indie Girls with you. Or sing like what's one where you could do just like a little something.

You probably sound so good singing their songs. I mean, I've definitely like forced like Jennifer Nettles to sing Ghost with me. one time at a show and like that one we got to sing closer to fine at the end oh well no closer to yeah yeah i obviously cannot sing nor did a professor ever tell me to uh go pursue it because i might not ever know well eric church so he called you and said hey you know my whole band they've got covid i can you come and like help help me out and do some songs open up yes what is that like does he call you text you his people what happens yeah yeah no he's He's not really a my people kind of person.

He definitely is like, if he likes you, he'll, like, he doesn't suffer fools. Somebody said that recently, and I like that about, that's a good way to put it. Like, he definitely is just very straight, you know, he's not blowing smoke up anybody's butt. He's like, I like you or whatever. And he has always been really supportive. Like he's come, like he came to my rhyme and show. He checks in, you know, he's like, oh, I love the album, you know, that type of thing. And he hit me up.

he's like, hey, I need a favor. And I'm like, 100% because speaking of musical heroes, like, I'm obsessed with his entire catalog. And he was like, can you come out? I have 15, 17,000 people at these two shows in Pennsylvania. I don't

want to let them down. I'm going to do it alone. Which is so badass Eric Church, right? He's just going to go out with the guitar. He's like, but will you come and back me up and sing on a couple songs? I was like, uh, yes. A hundred percent I'll be there. What's the set list?

He's like, oh, we'll figure it out later. And I get out there. And same thing, we're doing mic check and stuff like that. Hey, what's the set list? Oh, what? I'm going to get you soon. Just be prepared for anything. I'm like, oh, my God.

I was so many songs. Terrified. Yeah, so then finally, like, literally going out, like almost going out on stage, there's the set list. And I'm like, okay. And it was so cute because we like, I nailed like 99% of it. And like the one time I didn't sing this like one trill that kind of like Rianna does.

He like stopped the show and he's like, Cam, that was your moment. Let's do it one more time. Play the whole thing back. It was so sweet. It felt like, you know when like somebody, you're like in a living room and someone just grabs their guitar and you're all kind of like huddled around them or like around a bonfire or something? And like he made an entire arena because he had the center stage thing going on.

He made the entire arena felt like we were all just like huddled next to him and getting to hear like Eric Church like just sing for us. It was so, so cool. Oh, yeah. What a priceless memory for you. Yes. And I love how he's like, can you do me a favor? I'm like, yeah.

I really feel like I'm the one doing you, but whatever. Well, so I know you haven't announced it yet, but is there anything you can tell us about you being on tour in 2022? It's coming. I know, I don't want to do the like official announcement because you know, you want to get all the ducks in a row because everybody's having to cancel and realign. You just need to say what Eric Church said. It's coming.

It's coming. It's coming. Yeah. I'm so excited. We're planning. Simon's a big part of it too. We're planning to figure out a way to get us all together and put on a show that literally is something I've never done before but always wanted to do. And it's like going to be a very specific kind of show. And I'm so motivated and excited to make it come to life. It's going to be really fun. Well, that's awesome. Definitely something for Cam fans to look forward to next year. And we just appreciate you so much taking the time to come by. Thank you. It's so nice to come by and see you guys.

And play for us. And, yeah, hearing you live and seeing your face is so fun. Yeah. And for everyone listening, you can follow Cam on her Instagram at Cam Country. And definitely check out her latest album, The Other Side, wherever you listen to music. This is Women of IHeart Country. All right. If you have ever dealt with a traditional home security company, you know the drill.

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