The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - How You Doin? (feat. Nikki Dinki)

Episode Date: December 2, 2021

Chef Nikki Dinki joins The Bonfire and after feeding the guys tells stories of working with Wendy Williams!Stream "The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson & Dan Soder" for 3 months free on the SiruisXM app! Offer Details Apply: www.SiriusXM.com/BonfireFollow us on all social media @TheBonfireXM @DanSoder www.DanSoder.com@BigJayOakerson www.BigJayOakerson.com@NikkiDinki www.NikkiDinkiCooking.com

I'm Dan Soder and I'm Big J. Okreson and welcome to the Bonfire podcast. You can hear our full show every day on Series XM. Go to seriesxm.com slash Bonfire for a special offer. And now the Bonfire with Big J. Okreson and Dan Soder. That's right, you don't need no man. Just dance our way to the couch. Welcome back girls. It's the bonfire.

I can get a purse holder without a heartbeat, thank you. Oh. I don't need to dick poppin' in my hands too fast. Yeah, yeah. That girl, I don't need to touch a dick and have it be like a zit and just bob. You know what I mean? Ah-ha. Oh man, super chef, Nikki Dinky's on her way in. It'd be like a zit and just bob, you know what I mean? Ah, ha, ha. Oh man, super chef Nikki Dinky's on her way in.

She's coming in soon and Luters want to go get her in the lobby. In the lobby. After the lobby, it's the... You think they saw each other and had dream lever eyes? Ooh, dream! They did hands in hand. I've never thought I'd find you.

It's you. You know what's really annoying? Nikki dinky's out there and she saw the big full giant screen You up with Nikki Glazer poster and she probably was like oh Nikki Glazer was so cool. Yeah She's like I'll Kevin heart run serious. What? That's so cool. Oh, I bet everyone gets super excited at the meetings about him. Why is Jacob not even here? Jacob left it. He's too shy. No, he's in love with Nikki Dinky. I'm here. Sorry. Okay. Camera. Oh, why did you take your camera off? Jacob. Jacob. Hmm? Spill the tea, Jacob. It's Nikki Dinky day. Did you do your, did you do your diamond pushups before the show? Your shoulders pop and dude. I'm having work in out of it. You know how it is.

You want to throw on a tank top before she gets in here? I'm here and shake. Yeah, dude. Throw working out a bit. You know how it is. You want to throw on a tanked up where she gets in here? Yeah, dude throwing a one piece. You can dance everybody everybody for her. Yeah You want to fucking now it's time to do if you want to put on like a tight turtle neck or something damn Dude you look super important. Oh, well, just call you the C.E.L. tight turtle neck. I'm confident, but I'm no Jerry O'Connell J.O.C. I mean who is dude. dare say that. Wow. J.O.C. I mean, who is? Dude, there's only one J.O.C. Jock.

Jock, dude. Jock rock. There's only one. All praise me. He did fall in love. Where is she? Oh, he should have felt the whole form. I think she wanted to stop by the high heat studio.

Oh, she wanted to tour. She wanted to see where cousin Brucey did his magic. She's like, I love all of it. I drink in all of Sirius XM. Where's 80s on 8? Can we go by there? This one shakes some hands. Is that how I'm hunter here? How is this really? Is Martha Quinn ever actually come in? Can I go up to the NASCAR channel? I just want to hear them. I want to-

Is that fucking Eddie drunk? Shut the fuck up. Santa Jose, shut the fuck up. Is that how they're saying shut the fuck up? Is that how they're saying that? Is that how they're saying that? I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I am fucking losing it.

Is this where Jimin Sam do other show prep? Shut the fuck up. Oh my God. I don't need to change the one to where is that? Is that Uncle Brucey? Is that cousin Brucey? All cousin Brucey. Is that cousin Brucey?

Shut up. Man, this- I would love to know. Is Jerry O'Connell like a different person off camera. I've met him off camera. He's a different person. He's very nice. I'll answer for Dan. Yeah. Yes.

He's way different. I promise you. You don't go. Dude, I had a pizza last night from Joe's and he goes. And you didn't call me. And you didn't call me and you didn't go me Jake and I be honest with you Hey, you didn't go me he acted that way at craft services He will hurt you kisses I'm gonna eat them all

I hope you let these pants out tomorrow girl because J.O.C It's in the F.I.N.E. Not me and my tummy. I got grapes in my belly. Let's get into it. Yes. Welcome to the show. Yeah. You know what? Her new cookbook, More Veggies, please, is out now. You can also check out her website nikki dinkycooking.com. Ow. Please welcome. We've been waiting for a long time for her to be a guest on this show Super Chef. Black Lou you'll show her to her chair. I trust Jordan

Joining of the big intro. I thought you were saying I was you know saying it and you oh do the buildup again And I'll do it super chef new book out more veggies, please Book out more veggies please. It's Nicky's in the game. Welcome Queen. Welcome Queen. What's going on, vegetable queen? Nothing much, I was just gonna break out the muffins I brought for you guys.

Break out muffins. Bust out those muffins. Doesn't it feel like a muffin kind of day? It does, it's a little cloudy out. It is. It's sad. It's dark as a four o'clock. Why don't have chocolate muffins?

Chocolate muffins. We're spinach in them. Here you go. All right. All right, all right. Oh, these. Here you go. God, Nikki, you would be the funniest human being on the planet

if we unwrapped it and it was shit in a box. You would. What a heart. This is not the worst fire of it. She goes, this is a message from Wendy. Yeah. It's just a, it's a, it's a Myrtle's head in my body. I'm like, no.

We have Wendy says, have one of me. I actually brought you muffins. I don't know why. Yeah. Thank you very much. Oh, this is awesome. Ready? Well, hold on.

We can't try it yet. Okay. We cannot try it yet. You're right. Because we've thought of something that the way we want want we are fascinated with your time on the Wendy Williams Yeah, no, I don't know if you know this like it. Yes Very fascinated with it. Someone would call obsessed Jay watches Wendy Williams every day. He's gone through years of being if he's got the merch when you go to his house

He's got the Wendy Williams. I got the thumb mug. He's got the thumb mug the way he you got a road Yeah, how jealous did you just get used to get away to you when you're in the dressing room? I always stole a couple extra also did you ever I had the fan that said I still have this fan says how you doing That's old school. Yeah, but there was what was the thing they won't sell Christine? It's the tumbler with the pink ice that we melted in the dishwasher They don't sell that anymore. They don't sell it anymore And I put it in the dishwasher and it completely ruined it and it was his reusable pink ice ice tea I mean I would go over there if you would be drinking iced tea out of a when do Williams. Yeah

How you doing? Well, especially when I'm watching the show. Yeah, he watches everything He'd break it down for me. I'd come over to his house during pandemic. Obviously we did this radio show. Yeah, thanks Outweird, right? Yeah, we out of like we would we do it over zoom. We had like a whole online system. But then kind of as it started, both of us got vaccinated, I would go over to his house and we do it. And he would I would he'd have Wendy Williams clips every day loaded for me. Just come in and be like watch when he's in the cheat. It's a nice show to watch. You know, I know you guys have mixed feelings about Wendy, but I've learned a lot.

You gotta give her her props. I mean, how long has she been on? The last time she got renewed, she got renewed for like five seasons and all she does is sit there in a chair and talk. You guys sit here in chairs and talk too. We, no, we're near as good as. She has to look good and be more fun and personal. Not only that, but she gives very hard opinions, which I always appreciate.

She also has much stricter parameters and we have, which is always impressive too. Yeah, you guys have no parameters. Yeah. Zero. Honestly, we moved to this channel from Comedy Central Radio and they gave us parameters and we haven't been handling them well.

No, you guys are a lot of time. Like, start times, like very simple things. Starting the show on time. And that's actually important. Ending on time. Yeah, and that also seems important, but everything else, you guys go. Our old show, on Comedy Central Radio.. Ending on time. Yeah, and that also seems important, but everything else. You guys go on.

On comments. It's from hard out. Yeah, we didn't know what that was. We didn't know what a hard out was. Okay, we'll talk. Yeah, you probably know that. We would we could do a much better job if we learned those parameters, but Wendy Williams, I would say is a hero of the show. Yeah, I was going to say my feelings are are no are not mixed at all especially anymore I'm saying I'm gonna do a big year. I was little I was little judgy And but everything now that I would be like she's ridiculous for this yeah, it's every reason I love her kind of lover

Right, it's every so she grows on you. Yes, and you how many times have you been on the show? Oh, man My first appearance is probably five six years ago, and I've done it least Four episodes a season Can I can I ask you an honest question? Of course. This won't get back to Wendy. Yeah Have you ever felt true? Definitely will but yeah, have you ever felt truly offended by how she's reacted to a dish? I really have not oh There was one time that the culinary producer had put a bowl of soup for Wendy, so I don't have any money. And then a bowl of soup that I was supposed to top,

it was still part of the demo. Sure. Now they really like to make Wendy's food warm. You know what I mean? She's, you know, she's particular. It's her show, you know, God bless her. Yeah. She took the wrong bowl of soup and literally put one spoonful in her mouth and was like, oh, yeah. That's not even the real dish. Wendy, I was like, that's not, you're, everyone's going to think you hate the dish. Wendy, I was like, that's not, everyone's gonna think you hate the dish and you just hate it because it's cold and she said, oh, it's cold.

And I was like, I know Wendy, but see, I'm trying to sell this food here and you're not making it look so good. So, I mean, that's the only time, but honestly, every other time, I mean, I think that she's loved everything and many times has gone home with the food from only my segment, just like all chefs.

I'll tell you a bunch of times. Now I've looked, I've watched most of your segments at this point. And I will say most times she says, or she'll say the next day, everyone was so loved. Yes, they knew he'd eat that food and everyone. Wow, you really do watch it a lot. No, he watches it every day.

Yeah, she's in motion. She's giving me some follow up shout out. They think is really kind. That has to be there to juxtapose the idea that the one time she spits something out into a napkin on air, it was insane. I saw that episode. Wait, was it one of my food? Did you?

Yes, it was a while. She took a bite, she put it in a napkin to move forward. I think it was the mac and cheese. It was the mac and cheese you made it with a, but she started. She said she was eating with somebody after. Oh, you see? I like her. Yeah, there is.

That's actually seems like a great reason to spit out food on national television. Yeah. Because one bite will definitely ruin your appetite. No, I mean, listen. So there's been times where they say, Nikki, will you do the Thanksgiving show? And I'm like, yeah, I got all these great recipes.

And then a couple of days ahead of time, they'll say, actually, Wendy just talked about exactly what she would love for you to cook. And then suddenly I've been developed and trying to make those things, I'll bring them in. How much pressure is that? How much pressure is that? We have to make them your own.

By the way, it's not just like, make stuffing. You have to make stuffing the way you make stuff. Like you do. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I have a strong brand. I'm all about veggies. My new book, it's all about incorporating them in classic family food.

So I always want to do it. You can buy now. What you can about veggies. My new book, it's all about incorporating them in classic family food. So I always want to do that. You can buy now. Wish you can buy now. Stop more veggie, please. Go pick it up. It's an easy kid-approved meal and family-friendly comfort foods with surprising veggie twists.

Go pick it up right now. It's available. Yes, and so I'm always promoting myself on the Wendy show. It's a little bit of a mix. I love doing TV, so it's a good opportunity there. But I'm always trying to usually, you know, sell my brand, whatever. Absolutely.

So, yes, I'm trying to make her happy and you know, her eating habits have changed. Sometimes she's been vegan, sometimes she hasn't, sometimes in between. But 100% of the time, she clunks hot sauce and whatever you put in front of her. She does, and you cannot take offense. You know, she's always gonna have a bottle of hot sauce

on the table. What kind of hot sauce is that? What kind of hot sauce is that? What kind of hot sauce is that? What kind of hot sauce is that? She will actually slap you. Really? So she has the kind of thing where you taste cilantro

and it tastes like soap. She doesn't like it. Yeah. I don't know what it tastes like. She has hot sauce and a little thing like coke on her. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She's like, let me, just on a ring. Yeah.

She's like, I'm gonna do all of a sudden right there. What do you know what hot sauce brand it is? I'm hot. It's Frank's. I think it's Frank's. Yeah, I can picture it. So I always take the label off the bottle, but the bottle, it's either Tabasco or Frank's. No, Frank's red hot.

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And you haven't done it. I do Springer and Steve Wilcoast Now that's you guys missed it. It was a Thanksgiving episode like I did miss that one But well here's almost like no here's the thing I was just on will coast and will coast in spring or we're guess hosting. Oh, they sure were we have a history of Steve Wulco's you know Steve Wulco's obviously Well, I'm I picked up the chair. He hates pedophiles. Yeah, I should be alone too good. Well, she touched a kid. Yeah, it's Frank's Red to hot sauce the good that's what the internet says good is Wendy Williams spots us Frank's red hot sauce

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the show basically is going in it as a fan. One of them by the way, a friend of ours. Our friend of ours was on the show, Chris the Stephanie. I was critical of him, not because he wasn't funny. He was funny. He said things that are funny to the General masses of a comedy crowd Mm-hmm when do you lose credit as an comedy crowd? You're not a comedy crowd. They're very specific crap for me

They are as big but I don't feel a lot I think Michael rap port did the best from what I've seen so far and I've always watched a little business I don't see every super distant to I think they gave her a whole week I don't think our friend Becky, who had the studio before us, was a guest house. Becky Smith's been doing it, but our friend, Chris, the staff, and I know, yeah. They, when they do it, I don't think,

they have the segments of the show, but they're not doing the spirit of the show. They're getting into real round table discussion, things, of, and they're getting non superficial, which is the opposite of what that's serious. Yeah, the show's completely superficial. She's supposed to be like, I said the one topic that just stuck with me was they said about Rebel Wilson saying she doesn't want to have her weight talked about anymore because she's

lost all the weight now. And they just round to you with Hollywood's weight infatuation in this. And how they treat women and Hollywood versus men and this whole thing. And I was like, when do you be like, bitch, you lost weight to get people to look at you? Let people look at you. And move on. And move on.

Yeah, that's what we've been trying to do. I know. I know. Because there's, if you could, because I honestly believe one of my best friends we've been doing this show for years, he embodies what Wendy does on the show, better than all these guests us.

We've had him run through hot topics, right? He's gone through hot topics, nailed the energy, the day that we broke down Chris and stuff. You auditioning him slowly on this show. Watch this, wait a second. Don't play us song yet. Don't play us song yet. Don't play us song yet, bring up anything on TMZ.

No, no, no, no, let me introduce. I'm so ready for this performance. Let me introduce hot topics, because I want to bounce my boobs. Bounce your boobs, run over. Yeah, you gotta run, you gotta run over. Bounce your boobs. What's up to our fans listening at home

and to the virtual, well, it's not the virtual audience anymore. Am I stiff and fans here in the audience? All right, let's get to hot topics. Good run. I can't get in there. You got good run. I can't sit down. You sit down, you sit down on your chair. You're going to bring your Coke zero because that's your twist. Yeah, that's your sponsor. Yeah, yeah.

Might throw a Rico in my mouth. Yeah, just like a little, uh, a little bit of a cough drop. Just to make sure he don't strain your throat. And then she just talks normally to make Susanne lose her shit. Oh, yeah, I love Susanne. Yeah, oh, it's one of our We have a drop. Oh Yeah, we listen we're big thumbs up. That's Suzanne drop, which we do again, Lou

That was the audience not reacting, but she still when there was no one in the audience She still had the audience coordinate and get the reactions. And it was her, I'll never forget. The cauter on camera. It was reaction. But it was, I felt so funny because Wendy was talking about Dr. Dre going on a date with some girl.

That it's April Jones. 33 years old from Love and Hip-Hop. Oh! Oh! That's so funny. It's so scary. Give it, it's all about the ether to give it. It's a bit E for effort. Yeah, she turns around and she goes, oh, but there's just no one there I mean to a bad professional wrestling fan and I can say that was a hard sell. She sold that

I'll say what the newest group does newest batch of hosts they have They have Norman back Norman's back. Oh Norman who Norman? have Norman back. Norman's back. Oh. Norman who? Norman, that guy's on the side. Oh, oh, sorry, I was thinking of like, you know, Beverly Hill on my way. Oh, okay. No, no, no, the producer got the guy's on there. The, the, the, the, Kay guy.

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Fashionable. Very fashionable. Very handsome fella. Very handsome. Very handsome. Yeah. Oh wow, this got hot in here. Yeah.

That's right, kids. I just want to give him soft tender kisses. So you just feel like the hosts aren't like, they're not being truthful enough, they're not being blunt enough. They're not being windy enough. They're not being not being truthful. They're not being windy enough. They're not being truthful.

They're not being windy enough. They're not being truthful. They're not being truthful enough. They're not being windy enough. They're not being truthful enough. They're not being windy enough. They say in that controversial enough, they're bringing in, it's not even controversial. They're just bringing like, that shows escapism. It's talking about celebrities and shitting on reality shows. And it's sometimes making some really delicious food. And some salt that brings me to mind.

Fantastic cooking. And also some good deals for people. I like the she also, I think she's good for doing things like, as Riches, she's wealthy. She's wealthy. She's very wealthy. She's like, she shows her jewelry every day.

She's like 10 bucks, 15 bucks, 25 bucks, 50 bucks and it's all on our website and shit. She passes the savings on to the viewer. She doesn't get paid. She doesn't get paid until she makes money for you. Well, what I'd like to do is to show you how, to witness how great Jake and in-body Wendy's spirit for the show, I would love if you could walk us

through these chocolate muffins as you were doing it on the show with Jay guest hosting for Wendy. So basically a similar setup. How Jay thinks Wendy would play it if you were selling, or how he would play it. Yeah. Is that all right?

Can we do that? Absolutely. And then chocolate muffin. And then I would like to guest host Wendy as a more of a Gerry O'Connell. Give you a different taste. You'll compare us in here. I know you're saying there's not enough room

for him to do a kick flip off the wall in here. But I will be able to. I believe I can really. I know you're saying there's not enough room for him to do a kick flip off the wall in here, but I will be able to. I believe I can really. I'm excited to see that. Yeah, so let's start with Jay. This is you, you're just, you're back on Wendy Williams. Jay's gonna lead me in your gotta beat up. Yeah, okay.

Okay, Neggy, talk to me about these cupcakes. Hey Big Jay, so you know, I had to bring it for you today. So I brought you my double chocolate chip muffins and these actually have five cups of spinach in them. Wow. No, don't be scared. I know you're big, J. After all, but we're gonna get you little

with all this extra nutrition from this spinach. You're just gonna really blend it in there, mix it with your dry ingredients. I got chocolate chips in there. I don't even taste it. You don't even taste it, right? I don't even taste it. You don't even taste it.

It's good. It's actually good. Thank you, Wendy. And you know, it's really nice because you might eat them up in any way, but now you're eating spinach. Well, I don't like talking about the spinach part because now I start to taste it. Yeah, it's not. It's more of a hidden veggie in this application.

Well, keep it hidden, I say. Everybody, check out Nikki Dinky's new book, More Veggies, please. Thank you. Available now at her website. Nikki Dinky, everybody. That was good. No, when you went to the shit, how did that feel? It felt like okay, but I felt like the food could have

rang a little stronger, but like, you know, as you said, Wendy sometimes gives mixed reviews and so I'm okay with it. She, first of all, I think it's a burry positive for her review for say there's just, it doesn't taste any spinach in it. Yeah, but then you kind of went and they have the other side and got a little bit like well, I didn't have any hot sauce to pour it. Also, you usually bring multiple dishes and she gets a little softer.

No, no, I'm just saying she gets softer as you move along in the process. Yeah, because I'm gently stroking her back. The Mac and Cheese, the Mac and Cheese I'm almost surprised she didn't take a piss in the bowl By the time you got this the what I figured it was at the very end like she was like this is great She was like so into it. Yeah, and that was when she announced it was on the next week This this is great. Thank you so much. She doesn't love every single chef that comes on she really is a very But you ever seen a chef on there that just eating shit and you've been like oh man It's got to be beaten on she really is a very good. Have you ever seen a chef on there that's just eating shit and you've been like, oh man,

this guy's taking a beating. Where are comics? So when we watch other comics bomb, we're like, holy. No, because you know what, actually the people that I've seen do worse tend to be a lot of the celebrities that suddenly come out with cookbooks. Oh, that's how we feel about celebrities that do stand out. And then they suddenly are trying to do a food segment

on live TV and they realize they can't just talk. They have to actually walk through these steps and also keep a conversation going and it's a little bit harder than it looks. And I feel like that's actually when Wendy takes pity on them and like she'll kind of carry the segment more with me and she said it on air. She likes that she can kind of take the five minutes off.

And so she kind of lets me host that segment. That makes sense. And I think sometimes she takes a little break and just kind of regroups and sometimes she's more into the food and, you know, talking about her, talking about paper towels. You never know. Following hot topics is a big thing. It's a lot she might need a breather, you know? Yeah. Why don't we talk about a one-gerio con on how he reacts to cup of tea? Well, let's just see how, let's see if I can channel that and why don't you resell these muffins to me as a guest host absolutely hold on all right, yeah throw it to her there. Yeah, ready

Hello Welcome back to the show hold on real quick our guest chef today. I love her you lover new cookbook out Hold on girl Okay, now what are you what are you cooking for us today? Okay, Jerry, all right, hold on, calm down. I've got some double chocolate chip muffins for you. Oh! Some Fleetwood spinach from my new cookbook.

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Yes Couldn't be excited about anything I said you know that was actually the first get I put on my first guest host experience We're watching the Wendy show. He's now right. You're on another black talk show experience. We're watching the Wendy show. He's now on right yellow one another black talk show. I huge difference um an energy for sure and you know he did that summer like trial day time show. It didn't. It got him a job. You know, he did a little something. Yeah. Yeah. He's got a job. He got a job at one of those shows. He's on the talk. Is he still on it?

He is. He's running a four hosts of the talk. Oh, Jerry. Guess I say he got a job and like another like show like this is him in three black Oh, so when does her makeup like in her own makeup, you know place like she can get your own wing when you do the show Yeah, you don't see that's how Howard that's how Howard is here. You can't go near his wing. Yeah Yeah, it's like Stern is like he's got the door. They don't even let you near the There's no chance you can even like walk there. No. So yeah. All the spaghetti squash in the world

is not gonna get you back there. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Okay. Um, but you know, so Jerry though, was like just in the general makeup room and so he's there. And what I was so surprised by him was his genuine love for all things hot topics, all things.

Jerry, he was super, he was really in. He was super in town. Oh, I believe it was a figure. And he wasn't thinking. And he was like, no, really in. He was super in town. Oh, I believe that. And he wasn't freaking. And he was behind the scenes. He knew everything. Everyone, people were like, well, did you see this?

Do you hear about this? Well, he knew everything. And that's when I suddenly was convinced. I was like, oh, okay. Well, I didn't realize, maybe he has a great guest host. He actually seems to really be super into that. He's got all the knowledge. So yeah, I bought it into him.

And I actually kind of enjoyed it. We used to have four. He has the energy that's performing in an African American senior center. Yeah, we get everybody up all the time. Come on gang, we get all dance. Medicine helps. He's a sweetheart. I've met him several times, so he's very nice, but we just didn't know if he stayed in that energy on the show

or if it was like, and we're clear and he's like no He's pretty constant where he spits it out. Yeah, he goes and cut his I don't need Terry Yeah, he goes back in his room gross. I got to do some abs Like you never know maybe when he like left the studio, but at least for a month still quite a few hours He was pretty on yeah, you know, even when I was a dude He's like this thing is it felt like this love for doing the show for talking with everyone you would go on Howard's turn like he's a pretty like upbeat He listened uh, yeah before you know when I used to go on oh and a with the first time I met him was at a table read for billions And he walked in and he was like hey man. I listened to you on oh and a all the time. He's like you're super funny

And I was like Jerry O'Connell Sliders? Yeah, I think that's the first thing I thought. It wasn't even stand by me. I was like, I fucking love Sliders. Now it's maybe think that you should have made Sliders when you went there. Why don't you make Sliders for Jerry? You know what, actually, they did ask me.

So I think at that point, Wendy was like on another vegan kick. And so we've been doing a lot of like, you know, lighter, sometimes more female-based food. And I remember when Jerry came on, they're like, listen, we have a guest host, Jerry O'Connell. Like, want to do man food. Like, all right. They're like, let's just do like heavy stuff, meat, think bachelor stuff. I don't even remember what I actually said. He couldn't have reacted more like one of your girlfriend's telling recipes to shut up, bitch. Shut up. No way that there's wine in this prime rib. I'm gonna slap you. Oh. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah. You came on being like, I'm gonna bring some heavy dude shit to this show. I was like, everyone at that point, you know, they hadn't met a lot of guest hosts and so everyone was really excited just to kind of change it up. Yeah. They love Wendy, but it's just kind of something new. And yeah, they were excited to do man food.

Yeah. Really heavy, you know. And that reaction, that reaction, it's fucking great. And then he like danced, I mean, he's, he's definitely kind of like, you know. Have you ever had an interaction with like a host? You don't have to name who they are. We were like, oh fuck this, I'll never do this show again.

Have you ever done anything? You was, yeah, 15 minutes ago. Yeah, yeah. She was looking over here at Lou, like, what the fuck did you do? Yeah. No, you know, listen, I'm in a, in a point in my career

that it's pretty exciting for me to do any sort of national television. So it's a great opportunity. And honestly, I pride myself and one of the reasons that the Wendy Williams show loves me is because I am someone that's very easy to work with. They ask for ideas, I get them a spreadsheet with 20 things and I really try to make everyone else life easy

because it's a great opportunity for me. You're not part, I would do that anyway, but you know at this point it really is Um, so I there's definitely no one where I'm like whatever. I did do the Nick Cannon shows very first food segment Um, so that was a little bit just you know like trying to figure it out. They only had two plugs We needed to and you know like it was a little they were putting on avocados and You couldn't have you were a turbine You couldn't have said a better name. Oh, Nick Cannon Do you have a history hey big J. Do you know Nick Cannon? We have history the reason I would say part of the reason that this show

Exists is cousin to cannon because okay, so this is a love fest. Oh There you see you guys don't watch any of my stuff Something I probably I thought you'd do I say this run my Instagram. Well, no, I have no. I thought you won Instagram. Can I say something? I probably, I'll say this. I'm gonna run my Instagram, so how about that? Yeah, oh really? I was just looking at this jam today, I thought it was pretty good. Oh, thank you.

Unless it's because it's not run by you. He runs his line. Uh, and the cannon is, I have every one of these DVR and I'm trying to get the oomph to get it because I know when I open it, it's gonna be a bottomless pit of I'm gonna go, what? Yeah, no, here's the thing though. So, okay, number one though, that apron,

why they put me in that apron? It is so frumpy and looks so much. And they made you, where they're like, hey, put on the apron. Yeah, we're gonna do aprons and I was like, I have this terrible white apron, his looks kinda cute. Anyway, I'm side-note.

But, I mean, that's also a thing you have to deal with when you go on these shows. Like, we're gonna put you in a turkey costume and you're gonna make a stuffing. You know what my very first appearance on the Wendy Williams show? I was pregnant. Like pregnant pregnant. But I actually had this really cute skin type white dress.

Like it was pretty good about myself, you know? But it really needed a statement necklace. You know how that goes, right? Yeah, you know, because I saw me, you're saying it suck asically, but... Absolutely, no, I mean you're... No, I mean, necklace. The necklace necessarily is some sort of thing. Had you looked at me and said that, you're saying it suck-assically, but I know. Absolutely, no, I mean, you're, I guess. The necklace necessarily is so sort of thing. How'd you look at me and so that you would have missed, you nailed it looking at Jay.

I'm kind of figuring this out. I go necklaces in my accessory, but I believe in accessories. And D&A, I think of it as a big bandana, you know. So I was really excited about this statement. You mean like this big bandana over here? Oh, what? What?

Guys, big bandana. You just got it. It got a big bandana. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I was just about to walk on set. And this sound person starts telling me, I cannot wear my statement necklace. It's too jingly.

As I'm like walking out there, they've already miked. Yeah, so they didn't even do this when you showed up. They don't like it. No, like at the now backstage, it's already miked. Like, they're doing like a final test. And I'm like, I'm trying to explain this woman who really doesn't care that like this outfit needs a statement like this Listen, girl pregnant. I'm trying to like you know work it unless I can like make the pregnant lady feel okay And I think at the last she oh no she made me take off. I can't even remember god my memory is

It's okay. Yeah, but her I mean them trying to change Moment guys it was a panic moment. You obviously did well because Wendy's had you back for five years. I know she read honestly so when I did that segment and I think when they asked me back again, they said listen, they said when Wendy doesn't like about 80 90% of the chefs on the show. That's great.

No, she's just like them, but she's just particular when it comes to her food. Sure. And I think that you know, she enjoyed me as a host but also actually like my food. Oh, I did wear this statement necklace. Thank you for that. Nice. But it looks great. You know, she, she, I think she genuinely like me but also on top of that like the style of food that I was presenting. And that got me to come back. Well, I'm just icing right now. To lovely outfit. It's a lovely necklace,

but I'll say that outfit, that the necklace, that's a necklace, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. It looks like you're wearing like, you're gonna put a costume over it or something. What am I doing? Yeah, it was just blowing like, no guys, it needed a statement necklace. I look almost cried backstage and then she was like,

are there, have you heard in the world? Is it true that Nick Cannon, if you wanna come back on the show, you have to let him get you pregnant? Cause I believe that is the thing how it's, you know, I the thing I just signed some things I really read the fine print that's how he did he got a managerial fee for me for three years because he did bad boys a comedy and read the contract he did he was his manager for three years Have you heard any word about the return of Wendy Williams? I really haven't when I was there inside her info at all. No really I mean I actually said like all in a high-cost like is anything I'm expecting her back and there's like we hope so hopefully soon

You know, I mean I think she's just doing our thing and trying to get well But I you know the cool thing is that like that show because it's been on so long as a well-oiled machine Mm-hmm, and so these producers like it's it's a real challenge Sure, having suddenly you you know, some random hosts like Big J come on and they're trying to get a food segment that's within his wheel house and they're trying to figure out what he's good at, what he's not good at. And redoing that every couple days. Yeah, basically getting there.

They're doing it, you know, so but I do think that when he needs to come back, I think the Nick Cannon show is going after a similar audience. So I want to make sure she comes back. You don't come for the queen. You know, she makes sure that she has her throne. Do you know the in between talk shows and game shows that he hosts? He's like black militants. Like this is podcast.

It's just like a bunch like African cosplay. I mean, like we got stopped letting the white man push us around. All right, guys, I get to the mass singer. I'll be right back. Yeah, well, you can listen to my podcast where I defend Northern Ireland. And I have me to have you watch the mechanic show because I actually think you might enjoy it. I get to the mass singer I'll be right back. Yeah, well you can listen to my podcast where I defend Northern Ireland Have you watched the mechanic choke say actually think you might enjoy it. No, they won't be the same thing They won't be the same. I hear the thing. I was a little skeptical and I liked it better than I expected I'll tell you why I'm it's not that I like his vibe. It wasn't too much. You know, I won't I like it

I think he is the Canada is a Significant talent at hosting things. I think when he did a America's Got Talent, all those things, he's good at just being, unfortunately, and that would be described too, non-offensive, non-threatening, like all these things for sure. He then just said one day, I'm going to do edgy, dark stand-up comedy. Now you're talking to me in Dan's world. That's what it is. Now that's blah blah. And that's what it is.

It's gonna be the same thing as like, what's the good idea? You were talking about celebrity shifts. I was gonna say, you were talking about a celebrity of all of a sudden, a celebrity and actor's TV show goes off the air and they're like, the exact right.

Exactly, right. And how do you, does that just look like? And you're like, oh, it's that easy, right? You know, it's a mix for me guys. Like, listen, in the last, I don't know, seven years, 10 years, you know, we've seen a huge influx of celebrity suddenly doing cooking shows and other things Suddenly doing cookbooks and you know being someone in this world I know that a lot of them are not writing their own cookbooks. They're not developing their recipes for these cooking shows and

But at the same time, you know food TV is food TV. It is entertainment television What's awesome? And you know these people can is food TV, it is entertainment television. What's awesome? And you know, these people can be entertaining, they have fan bases like I love it. I don't love it because it doesn't give me the best opportunity to get one of those spots. Sure. But at the same time, like, you know, it's what people want. It's still good food and it's being produced by good people.

I mean, is there anyone you want to shit on? Anyone you're willing to take shots at? This is the safe space. The word shit has been used so much in this podcast. Well, I don't know why you're wearing this. This isn't a podcast. What are we doing here? Serious XM satellite radio.

We can say all of them. I have a question for you. In the world of cooking, that you're, I don't think, especially cooking shows and TV and it was always, I felt like it was like women doing like the main things always, but like there is a boys club to cooking now that's come on hard. And it's like a real, like I said, like, there's such a misty, like the main things always, but like there is a boys club to cooking now that's come on. And it's like a real, like I said,

like there's such a misty, like the women cooking was always like, and here's a way for you to like feed your family on a budget and make delicious food blah, blah, Anthony Bourdain's like, how many hookers do you have to kill before you can find your own soul? Because this right here is stingray testicles. They'll make you angry at anybody that sailed then on the bad end of the sea.

They get like a moustique about. Oh my god. I mean, I think it's tough in the female world. I mean, listen, a lot of professional chefs in the restaurant world have notoriously or majority wise, Ben Men. Sure. So that's already heavily men.

And so, especially as we've going to this competition kind of stuff and people that they want more of the restaurant chef, you know, that's just what they pulled from. And you know, Food Network is doing a little bit of getting some balance in there. Okay. And they're gonna work, you know. But, yes, unfortunately, I think it's interesting.

So, like, I have a friend, Demarice Phillips. She's wonderful. Buy her book. And she does Southern cooking, but she is a bad, can I swear on this? You can say whatever the fuck you are. I don't know, she's the only one I've done. My very early in my career was WBAI. Oh yeah, you're fine.

They had a list of things you couldn't say. I'm always like this. The day would have fired us years ago. Okay, probably it seems like it. Just don't say your pro choice. Yeah. Anyway. That's just the only one thing I stand. She's a bad ass chef.

I was going to say ass. That's adorable. You could say that on regular radio now. Can you add a little behind the times? So she's a bad ass chef and she's a little pigeon hold. They don't give her the opportunity sometimes to be that like more heavy judge chef or the restaurant shaft or the chef that comes in and drops you know knowledge bombs on you. They always kind of give her the sweeter roles or those kind of positions. Yeah. And she fights for those and sometimes she really doesn't get it.

She doesn't get the opportunity sometimes to compete against the other restaurant chefs. And she can absolutely hold her own. But she's just kind of has this mystique of like I'm a female and I do Southern cooking and she's nice. You know, so I think sometimes you know, I would mind you. know I would mind you but has there been like a female like a whimsy well I was gonna say go Wendy a Williams like a real like almost like punk rock Kind of take to it or is it always like yeah a Bitching kitchen was I mean she that was an incredible show that I can't believe food network slash cooking channel took You know a flyer on that was cooking channel not a ton of people watched yeah and this was gosh I mean at least seven plus years

ago she had a crazy show and she is tatted up and she is crazy I mean like in a fun way but you're crazy too all chefs are crazy a little crazy too well you know half this room is worked in the restaurant industry for a long time I actually ran a bar here in Manhattan for uh ten years that's insane yeah the bulls had to have her in on the bar. Only 10 years. You had to get off cocaine. No, I just married a guy in finance and got to do what I wanted to do.

Yes. Yes. That's a bad issue. That's a bad issue. Listen, let's see what our passions and whatnot. But in the end of the day, I was going to swear again. I just thought it's not. You could swear all you want.

Yeah, it's really hard. Unless we're going to break you. And then the next time you're on Nick Cannon She's like fuck this is good right Nick this channel is 95% alt right Keep saying her things like You know I got a balance you guys out with like something. I don't know. We're fine Don't bring that mom vibe. I am I am on the show trying to push a family focus cook But we're not my way here. I thought was actually pretty funny. We're selling it.

I'll tell you, a lot of families. This guy's laughing. A lot of family people listen to the show. There's some family people listen to the show. I know your viewers, because they come over to my page and they all are crackle crackle. Yeah, and I'm like, and they're all like single men. Well, you know, single men need to eat better

so they can attract the wife. They absolutely can. And my cookbook is for everyone. I just thought it's funny as I was coming here. And I'm like, it is the weirdest thing. It is the weirdest thing we've ever plugged on our show, but here's the thing about our fans. They're very great people.

They are. I guarantee you this book is purchased by my friends. And the book's called More Veggies Please. It's out now. You can also check out our website, NikkiDinkyCooking.com and follow her at NikkiDiNKi. What? I was just saying,

you could read Nikki Dinky's new book called, Neetotsaws. Yeah. But go follow her on social media and make sure you buy the book more veggies, please. No bullshit and these muffins are unbelievable. They're so good. They're spending it managing them. Listen, here's the thing. I wanna make just really, I was gonna swear I can't, I almost stopped myself, I can't

do it. I wish you stopped stopping yourself. I know, I'm not. I don't think I've ever done something where I can swear. Well, I mean, you can swear, listen, a lot of shows swear now. A lot of shows are getting nuts. I know, but it's crazy. Anyway, the muffins are really effing good, okay?

I'm gonna start with effing. They all work my way into it. I'll say it, they're fucking good. And here's the thing, I'm trying to make just regular food that's actually just your new favorite muffin that happens to have spinach in it. Yeah, that way you get some solid poops out of the deal.

Yeah, absolutely. We all need to poop daily. I'm pooping daily. I push out squat parties. That's the idea. Too much scares people way sometimes here. They're not full substitutions of the whole thing to just make it like, you know, like a something shaped thing.

It's not like a, like, toe-furkey or something like that. I hate that. I actually hate that. No, it's good, but she's just getting vegetables into the stuff. Yeah. I call you flour, Alfredo. I say it in the head, no.

I'm like, listen, I can make you parade cauliflower that looks like Alfredo and everyone in the internet can sell that to you, but it tastes like shit. Sure. So I need to put some cream cheese in here. I need to put some parmin here, a little heavy cream, but listen, it still has a head of cauliflower. Let's find the balance guy. I'm with you.

Great way of saying that. And also, there's Nuschenanigans, new settings, new sunny. FX, it's always sunny in Philadelphia returns for its record breaking 15th season tonight. Premiere tonight at 10 on FXX, next day on FX on Hulu. Got that in so they can't leave that in. That was so good. You just like really did that professionally. Thank you very much.

You're like here's a commercial. Yeah. It's a commercial, but it is a commercial. That's what we got to do. So good. A lot of times we plug Wendy's. Most of the time it's Wendy's and that would have been fun. Yeah, Wendy's is great.

It would have been fun to have something that's like, you know, whiplash. You know, even Wendy's and like McDonald's and stuff there, I'm sorry, only Wendy's, you guys are Wendy's show. Wendy's is great. It would have been fun to have something that's like, you know, whiplash. You know, even Wendy's and like McDonald's and stuff there, I'm sorry, only Wendy's, you guys are a Wendy show. Even Wendy's is doing like plant-based stuff and everyone's kind of getting on the veggie train. Like, let's not go crazy. Impossible, I'm an impossible waffer.

Delicious. Delicious. I think it's got a mills worth of salt in it. When it was delicious. When it was delicious, the book, More Veggies, Please, by Nikki Dinky, out now, Kid approved meals and family-friendly comfort foods with surprising veggie twists. These muffins are dare I say fucking delicious. Yeah I know we got a shit. We got a shit. We got a shit. Nikki, that was pretty fun. I'm excited. There's spaghetti squash Alfredo

We have to figure something out of one of our live shows or or when you come in again when Jacob Here is home. Where is the chef guy? Oh, well, he's in for a little screen right there. Oh Yeah, he's bought a right. Yeah, I see him. Yeah, I see like I got my eye on him. Yeah, he is a chef I love I remember that first episode or I mean, I'm only listening to like one of your thing Yeah, you guys asked me if you thought that I was a legit chef. You got like his expert opinion. And I think he gave me some love and stuff. He really did.

I know. I love her recipe. Jacob is a great baker. I'm a snob. He really is. When we found out that his knowledge of the cooking channel and the food network was great. He has a large knowledge of both.

Now have you watched me on Food Network Star and John Fudon? Lost you. You ruined you. Did you vote for me on Food Network Star? Are you a real thing? I trash the Food Network, so I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't like the channel. Okay.

Don't go up. We're gonna make it off for Jacob. That's when Jacob's working out. Yeah, that's just when he's blasting his quads. Yeah, it got a super buff. Thank you so much for being with us, Nikki. We love you, Jay. You coming on the show.

Yeah, my pleasure. We'll be right back to just say, wrap this thing up. We went way deep. We are indeed. More veggies, please. The book's out now. Go buy it. Come back real soon, please, Nikki.

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