The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Judgement Night with Jeremy Piven

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

Actor & comedian Jeremy Piven joins the Bonfire for the first time and walks into the studio to find a pile of flyers with his face on them. Jay explains to him the Piven currency system they has bec...ome a favorite bit on the show. | Corey Feldman gets thrown off Dancing With The Stars and Jay knows why. | Jeremy has been on stage his whole life but his first stand-up gig on live television did not go well. | Bobby shows his embarrassing Cameo video where he was an overweight cupid. | When Piven was on the set of the movie "Judgement Night" he experienced some antisemitism disguised as method acting. For all Jeremy Piven's stand-up dates go to @jeremy.piven on Instagram. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early.  Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now, the Bonfire with Big J. O'Kerson and Robert Kelly. Oh. I'm giving you a little taste of the Cypress Hill and brand new heavies? Sonic Youth. Fuck. Almost. Yeah. It's one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite soundtracks.
Starting point is 00:00:21 It's one of my favorite movies. Judgment Night. That's right. Judgment Night with my dear friend who lives in my town, Dennis Leary. You, son of a bitch. Dennis Leary, my close friend, we had lunch two weeks ago. Did you? It's a humble brag.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Yeah, I'll tell you what? You haven't mentioned it until this moment right now. Well, I don't talk about, you know what I mean? Those are, I don't like... Lunches with Leary? You know, but lunches with Leary, I don't... It used to be lunches with Lenny Marcus. And now it's lunches with Leary.
Starting point is 00:00:50 What a downgrade. Yeah. We went to the Blue Dolphin. Very nice place. It's the bonfire. Faction Talk Series X-103. I'm Big J. Okerson. That is the great Robert Kelly.
Starting point is 00:01:00 We are joined in studio with a guest right out of the gates. He's going to be at Sony Hall in New York City, October 19th after that Irvine, California, Addison, Texas. It is a legend to me, Mr. Jeremy Piven in the house. It's an honor to be here, by the way. I love you guys. Perfect pause. From afar, but now we're very close. Very, very exciting to have you here.
Starting point is 00:01:22 We, what should recall? We said when we were in the hallway, Jacob said, Jeremy came to the studio earlier. and saw the flyers, and he thought you were upset with them. I thought you were upset. I don't know if I read it wrong or not. No, your energy makes me upset. I have nothing to do with the flyers. Do you know why?
Starting point is 00:01:43 I was such a fan. I was like, did he get upset? No, no, I was just confused. I looked down and I was in blackface on a flyer. And you know what I mean? So it was kind of like the idea of, you know, I didn't have a explain. Yeah, you know, the, you know, having to,
Starting point is 00:02:00 explain yourself for a flyer you didn't make you know so I apologize for being honest with whatever was going on with my face his face every day puts us in that movie yes yeah because you know he's always that face okay I forgot about these yeah these were great so what I have to explain the story is that
Starting point is 00:02:17 a year ago I forgot about I forgot with black face ones black history of my kids a year ago or so you had done I guess an interview in here in this very studio with somebody and had a stack of flyers for your show you were doing that year, West Nyack, I believe.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Yeah. And I hate to brag, but, you know, I do the gigs, guys. I'll be there in December. I'm there in December. They won't use me. Bobby can't even get in there. So they were sitting in here, and I said that I was, I said on the show, we made a bit that I'll put, I'm going to make value to these
Starting point is 00:02:55 that when people just do well on the show, I'm a whip you a Piven. you're getting a Piven sent your way and people would start to cherish these just a piece of paper with Jeremy Piven's face on it dates it's a Piven it's a Piven I believe I've been on the road where somebody
Starting point is 00:03:10 got the not the blackface one yeah but are they all the black face ones guys there we go yeah thank you but it not only is it blackface but I got the kid and play kind of situation going on with the hair so it's a full disrespect to the black community it's beyond black face
Starting point is 00:03:26 and it goes more into just overall we just black you. We just completely blacked you. It's a full disrespect to them, but it's a respect to you. It's a respect to my hairline. That's an upgrade. Are you kidding me? A full respect. But these things got so popular that people were yelling at shows. They want a pivin. Somebody got a tattoo of the flyer with those dates from West Nileak.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I swear to God. Here's the thing because Jay, the genius that Jay is, he made them like Bitcoin. There's only a certain amount of pivots. They were number. Oh, yes. Yeah. You can't just get a Piff. The pivins were also numbered. We did a live show where the audience would get a piven and some, but we have to give them back. That's the rule.
Starting point is 00:04:08 At the end of every show. Always has to account for all the pivins. You have to count for the pivins. So here, you know what's so interesting is the reality of those flyers is I hand them out on the streets. Yeah. For real. So, you know, you're never too old to walk around and hand out flyers because what happens is, as you guys know, if you approach someone with a flyer, they're horrified. They want to punch you in the face.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And then they look up and they see it's me and they go, why, what's, why are you doing this? And then it's confusion. And then it leads to a conversation, why are you in town? I didn't know you did stand up. And then suddenly everybody wins. It's grass roots. Yeah, it's grassroots. It's really getting in there.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah, it's either really tragic or admirable. I don't know which it is. It can be both. It can be both. At the same time. It can be admiral during the day and then late at night back in your hotel room, tragic. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:54 At West Nyack, it would be dope if you were walking around the West Nyack Mall and Jeremy Piven offered you a flyer to a show he'd be like we have to go i used to get stickers made with all my stuff on it and i remember i get i would sit there at the show and i gave them all out and as i was walking to my car i was just walking by all my stickers like uh like a trail so as the people go to the country just throwing my stickers out it was one of the sad nights of my life i just picked up my stickers almost all of them but that's part of why and i'm i'm hoping you guys are honest with me It's so interesting because, speaking of Pivens Pivot, there we go. Nice.
Starting point is 00:05:33 That's what Pivens Pivot into stand-up. You just got yourself a Pivot, my man. I love it. Thank you, sir. Well done. That's the kind of wordplay that gets you a Pivot in this room. I'm going to say this, too. The first Piven is the best Pivot.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It is. That's a good Piven to get. Okay. I like it. First Pivot in the day. I'm honored. You got to give it back, though. You can't do it.
Starting point is 00:05:56 You know, because the reality is, as you're, you guys know how hard stand-up is and there i i dare you to even name beside robin williams a prolific by the way my microphone has been drooping since the moment can we just get some damn it jacob no it's all good i just want the black guy to help me please um that deserves black lou not twice if you're okay with the black piven posters hey i'm not in charge of the pivvins but i think that deserves a black pivin a black dink you're right You're right. You know what?
Starting point is 00:06:29 I was slipping. Damn. Yes, the Black Pivens, by the way. How are you slipping, Jim Piven? Black History Month came up, and then we did a game where the Pivins were the prize, and Black Lou. Black Lou made the Black Pivens, so it's okay. That's crazy. I can't tell if I'm just being absolutely made fun of or celebrated, but that's the way life is.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Oh, it's definitely not made fun of it all. That's guarantee. It was pure chance that this was in here. we just decided to do the thing the one day. It could have been a flyer of anything. Yeah, we're trying to fill time. We had a stack of them. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:05 So I was like, hey, everyone, you could get a Piven if you do well. No, no making fun of it all. Here's a problem with the Pivins. They became so valuable in here. I mean, I'm literally, everybody wanted a Pivot. Christine never, she actually got negative Pivins. She was in Piven deficit, which is pretty funny. She would have had to win 10 Pivens to just be neutral.
Starting point is 00:07:23 What the hell? For some reason, the negatives would stay with you after the show. didn't care at the end of the show. So I would come in like negative two pivins. It was really a sorry place to be. This is the sound of people at home going, what the fuck are these people talking about? No, they know exactly what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:07:38 If we were offering pivins right now, over the front of the phone lines would light up. You know what? I'm Ukrainian, by the way. The name Piven is, and I'm not making this up, it means singing cock. Really? Yes, it means rooster.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Okay. And I am, as you look at me, I'm identical to Zelensky. We're both Jewish, we're both actors, stand-up comics, men of incredible courage. He's fighting an evil tyrant. I'm fighting hair loss and wrinkles. Good night, everyone. Thank you for coming.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You didn't know that I was going to start doing bits. Bobby was planning on it. We were hoping for bits. We have a thousand things. I know everybody in this room wants to talk to you about or ask you. Hopefully you haven't been asked a thousand times. But before we dive all the way in, I do have to say, because people are going to wonder, it's the end of the week for us here.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It's our last show. Corey Feldman led us all down yesterday. We tried to start a movement to make sure that he stayed into dancing with the stars. And all we needed from him was a moderately decent performance. And we could have made that happen, but we could get nothing out of him. He has officially been kicked off the show, the first elimination. positive attitude yeah wait turn it up if you're going to show it
Starting point is 00:09:01 wow he comes out to baby got back okay it's a good oh man he can't even get up yeah oh the outfit the hip hold was my favorite that's where he lost me
Starting point is 00:09:17 it's the arm he does he's very stiff everything's very stiff I had so many plans for this season of Dancing with the Star of every week the new wonderment he was going to bring into my life with the next crazy dance he tried. Do you know the robots at Boston Dynamic dance better than Cory? That's nuts.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Oh, oh, oh. I think the variable should have been, someone should have slipped him some ayahuasca. You know what I mean? Just so he could have been, you know, just really let loose. How great would that have been? Either way it would have been good. Pause it.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah. Look how serious he is. No, no, that's exactly what I want to point out here. Yeah. This is great, because I watched the whole episode again. The only two episodes, it turns out I'm ever going to watch Dancing with the Stars. But everybody else. Actually, I'm hooked.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I know, you are. I mean. What would you guys honestly say if your agents and your bookers and everyone came to you and said, look, we got an offer for dancing with the stars? Let's act it out. You're an actor. Let's do a little scene. God, you're my agent. Ask me.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Okay. Listen, you're probably going to say no. this is going to be awkward, but we got something here. Fantastic. Yes. Let's go. Okay, he's in. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Okay, great. You started at 7.30 in the morning. So you're saying I have an agent, right? Bobby be dancing on TV in two seconds. What am I doing? Oh, my gosh. I do magic. There's things I would do.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I know I could be talked into many things. Any kind of celebrity. I'd go get my ass kicked on Celebrity, Jeopardy, or a Wheel of Fortune. or a family feud um i would could be talked into the masked singer which i believe i am at the uh the level of it is fun when someone keeps pointing out that the people they guess it's going to be on the mass singer and who it ends up being is so fucking funny like when they're always like i know that is yeah it's robert de Niro yeah i know deno's voice anywhere yeah it's drake because they really need to do that it's just dick dying in a costume
Starting point is 00:11:20 it's not even it's not even that it's someone who has 11 minutes to live yeah that's who it's It's Guillermo from Kimmel. Oh, I swore that was Pacino. Damn, dude, I got to get my voice recognition better. But I would do a mass singer. Dancing with the Stars, the risk to reward ratio of not looking like a buffoon to everybody you know is the thing.
Starting point is 00:11:44 When he does this, what it was amazing is all the other performers on the show, first of all, are killing it for the most part. Andy Richter, who doesn't even dance. He just stands there kind of while a girl dances will show his dance, too. He's still in the contest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:59 He didn't get booted. Because he's chubby, and he's adorable. He's trying. People like him. He likes, and he's self-deprecating. I'm going to be out. They got rid of Alec Baldwin's wife, and I have a real feeling
Starting point is 00:12:10 that's got to do with him being floating around the back all day. That they're just like, all right, all right. It's not the nine kids she has, screaming and yelling. Also probably the nine kids screaming and yelling, but she,
Starting point is 00:12:19 because she's a good dancer, undeniably. Andy Richter's not dancing, and she's a good dancer, and they booted her off. That's definitely. we just need to get you out of here kind of thing Cory Feldman scored
Starting point is 00:12:29 fives across the board but when everyone else is done dancing immediately their faces are like smiling even Topanga from Boy Meets World she flubs her last thing and comes back like she's smiling right away she's like laughing about it like ah shit
Starting point is 00:12:46 you know I'm fucking whatever and good energy when he's done when he holds this move they're going to do a zoom in close of him his face he's still like everybody else has like the oh my god we did it energy he goes he's holding his thing still and he's still like keeping his michael jackson face of seriousness back up five seconds and you'll see you got i want you to see the approach yeah smiling is dancing you have to smile that's like part of it
Starting point is 00:13:13 why is he this intense he just danced the baby got back he's he just danced like uh that's It's crazy. Holy shit. He just realized he sucks. No, I think that's, you know, that's who he is, and I appreciate that. You know, the highest vibration in this life is authenticity. Do you know what I mean? And that's his authentic self.
Starting point is 00:13:38 You know what I mean? Sure. He's doubling down on absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing. And I love it. That's what I say. Why I'm intrigued by him because I do, I mean, and I'm not talking about acting. I'm talking about all of his music and now dancing.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Let's jump over to. Oh, yeah. I say it's a thousand. percent effort, zero percent talent is maybe my favorite thing to watch happen. It's so great. And then my next special, by the way. That's amazing. But it does work
Starting point is 00:14:04 for a lot of people. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Just maximum effort. Just keep showing up. It has sort of worked for him because he gives all the effort so people now come to watch like the shit show when he does music. No one's ever there like, I hope he plays whatever tonight. I hope he does more of his early stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:20 No one knows the early stuff. There's got to be a couple people that are like, I can't wait to see him. He has to have a couple real fans that, you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, there has to be. Even there's certain comics, like that fan who everybody
Starting point is 00:14:34 gives shit to, he has a couple fans that are like... I think he's got a billion fans. No, he does a show in his basement in Jersey. Oh. Well, for a while he went over, like to... I'm going to do it if you want to do it. Asia? You're doing Dad Fans podcast?
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, I'm with, no, it's his show. He does a comedy show. Oh, it's a stand-up show? On Zoom, yeah. Is this true? Yeah, I'm doing it. We should do it. We should all stop by. Is it? Yeah, there was nothing better than those Zoom comedy shows.
Starting point is 00:14:58 You're right, man. Let's circle back to that. Let's circle back. We're going to put a pin in it. I'm going to say tentative yes. A tentative, tentative yes? But needless to say, he got the last place in the voting.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Please show Andy Richter. Show the no effort he gave. I don't remember a time in my entire life when we weren't talking about dancing with the stars. I know. You know what I mean? Time's taking on a new meeting. There's a new timeline.
Starting point is 00:15:22 It's always coming up. it always comes up somehow dinners, events okay oh Christina just reminded me it probably is going to rain I brought both umbrellas
Starting point is 00:15:38 but I didn't bring either of them with me but here's it can I stop for a second they're giving certain people a lot more production than they're giving our boy I mean Irwin got a fucking Jeep
Starting point is 00:15:52 in the jungle safari theme. This guy I mean this is like a little scene. They're making it more entertaining for certain people. Well, he picked Baby Got Back and they're doing it's raining men. It's a funner song. It's a better song. I think he knows how to smooze
Starting point is 00:16:06 people and I think you should take note. You know what I mean? You got to do the schmooze. Yeah. I'm not good at schmoozing. I'm the worst schmoozer. I'm a bad schmoozer. I'm a late bloomer to it. Yeah? Like schmoozing? Yeah. Bobby, you're good at schmoozing. I'm good at schmoozing, but not with
Starting point is 00:16:22 not with the, I'm good at schmoozing with regular people. As soon as I get around famous people, you know I'm done. Oh, I fucking shut off. I shut off. I'm the worst. Yeah. Let's watch Raining Men.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Let's do it. Andy Richter. He gets two dancers. Well, no, they always have like a group around them. But they're playing to his thing, his cuteness. Yes. They're also having her flash and gash a little bit, which ain't hurting. Now, Andy Richter is walking in a circle
Starting point is 00:17:00 And a lot of it He just kissed her, gave a wink A little wink No, it's all personality It's all personality He's still in Yeah Corey Feldman sent home
Starting point is 00:17:11 This is like when I used to fuck a stool on stage You would murder Oh yeah Yeah, the old stool fucking Man What a great bit that was man It was No
Starting point is 00:17:21 It's not done enough It is. No, it is now. I gave it away. Did you do stand-up early in your career, too? I started at Second City in the 90s with Chris Farley back in the day. So improv. Improve and sketch comedy. And then, this is a funny story.
Starting point is 00:17:36 The first time I ever got up, my agent said, what about the Aspen, I mean, the comedy festival in Montreal. Montreal, thank you. The biggest comedy festival in the world. Not anymore. Well, it was. It was back in the day. I'm 200 years old, so back in the day. So I said, you know, and I trusted him, and he goes, yeah, and I had no background as a stand-up, you know, way back in the day.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Anyway, smash cut to I show up what is needed of me, and I'm not making this up, because this is literally the stand-ups nightmare. They said, here's a deal, and I go to the, it's about, you know, 3,500 seat theater, and they're like, well, it's going to be tomorrow, and it's live TV, and you're hosting, and you're going to do a quick 20, I swear to you, you'll do a quick 20, 21, what 20 minutes of what stand up quick I said I've never done stand up they go no you'll be fine you'll be fine live television 20 20 minutes of stand up and so and then they said here's the deal
Starting point is 00:18:37 we got six seven comics you'll do a quick five minute wrap around each one of them now do the math on this and now you're up to 40 50 minutes 50 minutes and so I sat there and we started brainstorming and they go look here's the deal just give us a funny story right now something weird that happened to you in your life
Starting point is 00:18:57 and I told the story about being with my mom and we went to the Golden Globes and she literally froze and it just madness like, fine, whatever that story is. Your through line is an actor is you're going to get up on stage on live television, you're going to begin to tell that story and then plant various people in the audience
Starting point is 00:19:16 and then so start to do some awkward crowd work you know what I mean so that story is your through line and we're going to interrupt you for 20 minutes now I've never seen the bit I don't ever want to look at it because no it's terrifying and I was too dumb then to know now I've been on the road since whatever and so I understand how ridiculous and insane what I did was so I can't ever look at it so I somehow did it and we navigated the whole thing but it's one of those things where you know the less you know the better well sort of But there definitely is to that, but almost to what Bobby said when you were talking about the stool fucking. So it's interesting starting comedy like later and already having a name.
Starting point is 00:20:00 The expectation holds where it's like you're not allowed, you're almost like not afforded the ability to have all the early comedy mistake. Like they expect you to be passed a lot because you have life experience ones. There's plenty to talk about, which is good. But you don't have the experience in presenting like stories like that. Well, what I understood very quickly. after navigating that and then going and doing all the dime bar, you know, in front of three people that are waiting to see the DJ, you know, and all the stuff. So people are like, you're not a real comic, you haven't gone through the open mics and blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:20:34 but I put myself in these terrible situations, five to eight shows a week, a couple hundred shows a year, and the reality is no matter, even though I've been on stage since I was eight, if you don't get those reps, you don't have a shot at all. And by the way, as you guys know more than anyone, after a few minutes, you know, if you don't have it, you're fucked. Yeah. Completely. On those gala, my first gala that I did for them, they told you're going to be crystal clean. You're going to be clean.
Starting point is 00:21:03 You're going to be clean. I need to say fuck. It's just in my thing. Yeah. And when you take that out of me, it's very hard to have me. I'm somebody else. And I remember, I was bombing so bad at that gala. that I had to do this bit where I have to I do a walk away from the crowd and it's supposed to be I'm supposed to be getting huge laughs while as I'm walking away so then the walk back I'm kind of walking back on the end of the laughs that's what happened there was I did the bit there's no laughs I'm just walking away from the crowd in silence you hear the step footstead and then I had to walk back to them and go anyways oh Christ yeah that's when you know you're bad when your agent went you're
Starting point is 00:21:49 You look good. I always follow at a gala. I always follow someone who's so TV clean, awesome, like destroy. The last time is the Sclar Brothers just murdered. Yeah. And then like, get out there. You know, when I figured it out,
Starting point is 00:22:00 Bob Marley came in one night. You know, Bob Marley from Maine. He came in late after everybody was killing, and he just went up and did his shit. He just went up put his hat on the thing. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Fucking lost his mind. I was like, I'm never fucking listening
Starting point is 00:22:16 to any of these people ever again. I'm never listening to what a manager can go agent can fuck off I'm going out and just doing what I do if they tell me I'm a piece of shit fine if they don't laugh fine but at least you do it your way and I've after that I've never had
Starting point is 00:22:28 great gala's after that but could you imagine what was how much time did you do on stage first time you went on stage I did three minutes the first time I went on stage yeah it was a five minute set a catcher rising star
Starting point is 00:22:39 at Harvard Square that was run by David Cross Mark Marin it was all alternative comics these guys hate you they hated my family They hated my mom Why did they hate you?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Because I was the other side Bobby was silly, not thought-provoking Yeah, I was very silly and goofy I remember the outro was Robert Kelly People are so different than me And I heard my mom go What the fuck does that mean?
Starting point is 00:23:07 They actually told me to I've been great dude if your mom beat up David Cross They told me to go up to my family Before him they're like hey I don't let because I had like 15 people Like hey tell them to keep it down I don't want them laughing just at you hysterically. I was like, and I'm such new.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I walked up, I was like, hey, guys, could you not, you know, go crazy when I'm up there? They're like, what? I don't understand it either. I was just told. Yeah. That's almost what I'm saying for 20 minutes the first time. You have to go up there to do 20 minutes. Yeah, but he's also, you know, you are a great storyteller.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Thank you. You can go on, you know, like going on the panel on TV, doing all that stuff, is, is, is, you know you have that thing in you right yeah I mean we're starting behind the eight ball yeah the stage it's definitely a place where I'm very quick yeah give yourself a pivot behind the eight ball that was fantastic white pivot oh out you didn't get a black pin that's a white pivot I know the eight ball but I get it but no yeah I mean I'm very comfortable up there and and I've been taking direction since I was a kid so literally that direction to me it was like oh I'll just do that and they were like they were kind of
Starting point is 00:24:16 shocked that I could pull that off but again I it just you have to embrace it and have a good time now it's funny about the clean comedy that I didn't have a reference for and I did this charity event because I have the hugeest heart in Hollywood
Starting point is 00:24:31 ever and I did and not the humblest no no I'm very humble I'm very fucking humble don't worry about it number one number one number one number one most humble motherfucker I'm gonna have to take a humble button back so they they basically I didn't
Starting point is 00:24:46 understand that the evening was to raise money for, and I'm not making this up, people who have been scalded in the face, they raise money to get plastic surgery to change their face. And I, my closing bit, and no one said do clean, and you're supposed to do clean, I didn't know, my closing bit was, I say, you know, I do lines with my mom. I mean, I run lines. Sorry, don't do lines with your mom. And I do act out me doing cocaine with my mom.
Starting point is 00:25:14 and then I say my mom because she's been my acting teacher since I was a kid I run lines with her and then I said I even did Ari Gold with her and I acted, it's an act out and she goes action and I go Lloyd have you had so much
Starting point is 00:25:30 cum squirted in your face and everyone goes literally a fucking room filled with people that have had their so beyond not clean I was talking about doing a duty joke No, I was just talking about getting cum scoured and, you know, because this is, these are lines from the show.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And it was, I mean, it was beyond a disaster. Like, I've never seen, like, in real time, the next day they were just like, you know, I, you know, you make jokes about like, oh, the papers are going to say he bombed. Like, the next day in the papers, it was like, they were horrified. You know what I mean? Screaming, like, you know, calm in your face. Here's the thing. In comedy world, that's legend. For us to hear that, it's like, fucking good for you.
Starting point is 00:26:16 It's like when Patrice did a... Patrice, Louis C.K., Nick DePaolo, and Greg Geraldo did a battered woman's... Oh, my God. Already it's a disaster. Patrice did a joke. He was doing these jokes at the time about what college boys jokes. And he said, yeah, you ever do the angry pirate?
Starting point is 00:26:36 And he's like, that's when you come in a girl's eye, kick her in the shin, and she hops around going, arg, arg, arg. I mean, dude, the next day in the paper They went and got the worst photo of him It looked like he just raped five girls and ran away He was just like, he didn't think he ran away True He found him sitting out of breath right next to them
Starting point is 00:26:56 He was a larger man Yeah, he is so Believe me, I know exactly what that isn't Legend of so here's a thing They retold the joke in the paper Oh yeah, that always works But here's the thing, it did work It did work because she wrote
Starting point is 00:27:10 She put Argue so you're reading this and then you kick him in the shin come in her eye kick her in the shin she hops around going arg and as soon as you read you're like ard everybody laughed at the joke in the paper because the dummy put arg that's amazing
Starting point is 00:27:24 yeah it was he was on fox with that he did the joke on fox and some lady was complaining about it and but he did she said to her again she told the joke wrong and he goes nah you see that's why you don't know funny it's because of blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:27:37 and you hear the camera guys go and he goes they know funny Yeah, he went on, Patrice defended Imus in the nappy-headed hose thing. Yeah. He was like, if he can't say nappy-headed hose, how can I say corny-ass cracker or something? He went on the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I'm like, yeah, I guess he's right. Bombing had a charity event. Charity events, in general, for comedians, it's a hard thing. Because a lot of times they want to pay you. And it's like, I did one. They were giving me $1,500. And it was for two kids that passed away.
Starting point is 00:28:10 and then it's like I did this thing. Oh, they don't need the money? Well, I did the, the parents need the money. It was for the parents. Oh. So I did this whole thing. I did like an hour. I killed.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I had a blast. And then the guy went up at the end and did this tribute with the kids and everybody's crying. And then I just walked up and I handed it in my check. I'm like, here. I can't. How do you walk out and take the money? You should have walked yourself as a silhouette in front of the projector that was showing the walk to me. Hey, can I get my money?
Starting point is 00:28:39 I'm kind of parked in a weird spot. Just come through and fuck up the chair I've been I've said yes to performing in My friend's very close friend But I didn't know her stepfather's like memorial Thing they wanted a comedian to come through Any corporate thing I've ever I've never gotten like the corporate like a Bargatsi
Starting point is 00:29:00 Where you're like you're performing for Google in Vietnam Where it's like everyone's there to like have a good time My corporates are like hey they're getting one of those boats That goes around the water for three hours And they want you to come tell jokes while they all know each other and don't really pay attention. Corporates are the worst for our style of comics. You have to be clean.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You have to have that ability to do that like Tonight Show jokes. Like Colin, Colin Quinn, he'll go and write a fucking new hour on the company. I'm showing up with what I got. I did one a year and a half ago. God damn it, did I bomb. 200 people did not live, like we're talking. And then four people sat and there was like 20 chairs, four people sat in it, I started to make fun
Starting point is 00:29:42 of one of the guy's jackets, because I was just panicking, and he goes, not me, go to somebody else. And it was the owner of the fucking faucet company, like, the biggest kitchen bathroom faucet company in the world. It's also when they ask you to be clean, like, it's not that I can't,
Starting point is 00:29:58 like, I always go, can you be clean? I go, I mean, I cannot curse, but I'm going to be coming to you the whole time with questions like, can I say semen instead of come? And then they're like, no, like, whatever it The context is not going to matter, probably there. They see comics at a club, and they're like, we should get one, like a pet.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Oh. And there is a, there is, there is a number for all of us. To be a pet? To go and do a corporate and just be like, you know. Yeah, but the problem is the number fluctuates through your life, like what that's worth. I did, I mean, I wouldn't do this again, but for like $150 once I sat in a hotel room with 20 women while they, uh, It was a bachelorette party, and they wanted to have a comic come to the hotel room. How did you?
Starting point is 00:30:45 I just sat in chairs with them and, like, talked to them. I mean, I just was funny, like, with them in a conversation, I said. I told them, I go, you guys don't want me to stand up here and, like, tell jokes in the center of you. You don't want that. It's like a weird scenario. Yeah. Like, you guys want to, like, bullshit. So I just kind of got them, like, making fun of them to each other and shit.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I did. I stood up on a table at Manetta Tavern after hours, and for some rich guy for $200, I did 10 minutes. God damn, we are pathetic Jeremy, have you ever acted on a dine for somebody in a diner? I had a guy, I was just at the Wilbur Theater, and I was caught in one of these horrible moments where I was taking a selfie of myself outside in front of the thing, you know, and you're like, you feel like a fucking, but you've got to get the word out,
Starting point is 00:31:32 and I'm this guy, and I'm a fucking caveman, and I hear, yo, man, let me ask you a question. And it says, brother, and by the way, black guys and this is going to get you, I just got your attention. Black food. Yeah. They, for whatever reason in Boston, they never
Starting point is 00:31:47 get, have you ever met a black guy? I'm from Boston. With a Boston accent? It's the best thing ever. It's in, but I've never heard it. It's shocking. Yeah. So, but this dude was like, yo man, me and my girl love rush hour, man. And I was like, oh, thank you. And he goes,
Starting point is 00:32:03 can you, can, I swear to you, he goes, can you can you do it for me right now? You know, it's about a seven minute scene. and I go, no, man, I'm not getting stood up and this motherfucker was so big and I go, so you got the Mokachina skin and the big broad shoulders. You know, buttercream, buttercream, crack skin,
Starting point is 00:32:20 buttercream, what's below the waist? Mystery meat. You know, I did the whole fucking bit for it. So to answer your question, yeah, man. I am a dancing fucking monkey, you know. How many videos after comedy shows I made have somebody going like, dude, my friend Rick couldn't show up.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Tell him he's a fussy. Yeah, yeah. And you got to go, And you're, like, being bullied. You're like, by a smaller guy's guy's arm around. They're like, hey, Rick, you're a pussy. Guys, can I stop now? Nobody, nobody can touch me when it comes to it.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's for schmuse? Just because. Oh, Bobby, you'll take the camera. Because of cameo. There you go. Oh, you don't even know, my friend. Oh, yeah, no, I'm on it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You were on it as you. Yeah. Oh, you do. My wife, one year. Characters, characters would be the wrong word for this. Okay. I, let me tell you something, my wife, I still hate her for this. You should.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I almost left her for this. You still should consider it. She talked to me, and the worst part is, is Dan Soder and him found it, which was, like, I had it out in the open. Oh, no. I don't know why I had it in the open. You could, you don't have to. How did you find it? It was, we went to Bobby's cameo page, and it was one of his, get yourself something like this.
Starting point is 00:33:32 My wife, one, one, Valentine's Day was like, you should, you should, you should, you should, you should, You should dress up. I'll make you an outfit as Cupid. And you can do it for your fans. You'll do a Cupid thing. And I was just like... A real Boston dude with a blacked her eyes. And I was like, all right.
Starting point is 00:33:50 And she made me this really nice Cupid outfit. She put a lot of work into it. A nice Cupid outfit? It was pretty good. And I wound up doing it, not thinking about it. And it went away. Right. It just went away.
Starting point is 00:34:01 But let me ask you a question. And I hate to be this guy. What did you make for that particular cameo? I mean, because I'm just trying to do the math on this. It's the best part. That's the best part. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Was it $50? For $50? $50, you got a goddamn Cupid outfit. Bobby was morbidly obese. Pretty heavy at the time. But they got so mad at me that my rate was $50. They made me change it to $1,000. Yeah, here it is.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Oh, God. What? Oh, my God. What the fuck? Oh, my God. You look like the girl from this is us. Yeah, you look like the girl from this is us. And you don't mean Mandy Moore.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And you don't mean Mandy Moore. No, not Mandy Moore. By the way, that costume is amazing. You know what? You're right. She did your job. She crushed it. I mean, she crushed it. You got to look at the positive, all right?
Starting point is 00:35:15 The visuals are disturbing. They're just disturbing. Can you understand how, how, when I forgot about it, I just did this, I made maybe, I don't know, I probably got three cameos and I had to do this. And then I got a phone call. I didn't recognize the number. And I just heard his. and I knew the time frame when the show started and I heard him and just
Starting point is 00:35:40 what the fuck are you doing it? They were almost concerned like they caught me doing heroin. No, we sent him a picture. He was doing a podcast with Ari Shafir and we kept trying to call him and he didn't answer and then he finally he answered the phone and I go, hey Bobby, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:35:54 He goes, I'm doing a podcast with Ari. I go, you don't check your texts at all? We've been trying to call you on the show and he goes, no, let me check right now. And then he just goes, oh no. Oh, no. We just sent him a picture of himself as cute And we're like, he's like, I'll call you back in five minutes
Starting point is 00:36:10 And he had to go think of some lie See, but but a lot of good came from that Right? No, no, nothing good I actually got into shape That's what I'm saying You look at yourself like that, you're like, man, I gotta lean out a bit A bit I think you also made up $150 to $200
Starting point is 00:36:28 I did, I actually You humiliated yourself forever for $200, dude It was, wow, that was a bad one That was a bad one. You did several of them like. Can I say something though? The cameo guy. I was like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I don't want to do it. This guy was on me, on me. And then he finally got like, he just got in me where I was like, all right, I'll do it. And I saw everybody do it. And here, what I did at the beginning of cameo, which I thought was genius, I would hire other comedians to plug my dates. Oh. So I would get Nick, I would get Nick DePaolo. Oh, you'd buy a cameo for me.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I put Bobby with an. I put Bobby Kelly with an IE at the end, so it was like a girl, and I'd have him, hey, I'm going to be, you know, hey, just give me a shout out, how cool things are going, and, you know, give me a little pep talk, and I'm going to be doing a show in Arizona on 19th and the 20th, so maybe just pumped that up. And it would just be Nick DePaolo, and I would use his clip on my social media, Nick DePaolo, give me a plug. I got Chris DiStefano to do it. Less humiliating for them than that fucking, than that Cupid. Oh, that's less humiliating than anything on the fucking planet. I still get people... That is so, so bad.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I still get people who send this to me on Valentine's Day, and it hurts my feelings. I didn't realize until just now when I saw it, I just thought it was, like, red... I didn't realize there was, like, butterfly fairy wings in the red heart. She committed to the bed. Yeah, she's not an asshole. No. She dressed you like a moron for $50. She does.
Starting point is 00:38:02 That was an enemy's move. Yeah, I'm going to do. divorce or tonight you should at least consider it yeah I'm gonna come so let's have a talk with her at least about what the fuck why would you send me out there like that talk I need to I need to give her a nice choke maybe a shake a shoulder shake maybe a face to the glass yeah yeah Cory Oakham says put the face in the glass I gotta get that off can I get that off it's off but it's you can still find it on Reddit don't worry bud it's there forever it's off your came here um we'd be ridiculous here we have
Starting point is 00:38:31 Jeremy Piven here. I've got a thousand I believe the room probably has a thousand questions to ask you. It's crazy how many movies how many, not just movies, how many great movies you were in? How many great TV shows? But the question I wanted to almost lead off with asking was that like how great is it like at our age even like
Starting point is 00:38:49 you were in movies at a time where like everyone you watched it over and over and over that just doesn't happen anymore. Everyone kind of takes in a movie now like once you see it you move on because there's a thousand things in TV shows is coming out. But I mean, like, a good example, always for PCU was one of the first things I ever saw you in. And I just, I liked it. I saw it on cable the first time. And then I saw it 700 times on it and loved it. You know, you just kept watching it when it was on. Well, thank you. And that's one of those movies. If you look at it now, it's almost like they had jumped timeline and they somehow back in the day, it was ahead of its time, obviously. That's a cliche. But they somehow knew the future where we were going with all this. Because it looks like it was made for these times, which is insane.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Oh, yeah. But not even the movie itself, I'm saying. I'm saying, like, being in movies at a time, like, even old school was a time where, like, people watched old school 70 times. Like, they know the words inside and out. Like, that doesn't have much of movies anymore. Smoking Aces is up there with, like, true romance, as far as cast, edginess. Like, so many portable movies that people saw. You guys are being very kind, and you're picking movies that, like, and I thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:01 that I love that are a bit of a, you know, on the cult side, you know, smoking Aises and stuff like that. But then you look, it's so funny, you know, the journey and how interesting Hollywood is because you look at the cast of smoking Aces. Crazy. Yeah. It's like true romance. It's like, yeah, you've got. It's comparable as the people that in it. You got Chris Pine and Ben Affleck and myself in common and Ryan Reynolds and Andy Garcia and on and on and on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And at the time, they were like, yeah, we don't know about this cast. So, like, I remember I was so excited for it to come out, and the role was just absolutely insane. And, you know, I have people coming up to me. I had this one actor who I can't say who would is when he came out to me. He goes, mate. He goes, you want to do a little bit of Charlie, baby. A little bit of you don't do it.
Starting point is 00:40:52 And I go, bro, I don't do blow. That was Rayliota. That was your fault. Radio was a great impression. It wasn't, yeah. But anyway, so this dude is a brilliant fucking actor and thought I did blow. And I looked at him, I go, did you see smoking aces? And he goes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And I went, and this guy's a brilliant actor. I go, did you think that was real? And so somehow, like, that was the greatest compliment. This fucking brilliant actor thought I was really doing blow in smoking aces. I mean, we're snorting vitamin C. I've got, you know, things in my contacts, red contacts in my eyes. to make it look like, you know, I, so they just assumed that I was method and that I'm just doing a lot of blow.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It's like, it's wild, yeah, and it's a huge compliment. But I think right now it's interesting where we're going to go, you know, can we get people in the theaters? How do we get their attention? How do we get, you know, stuff to break through all this noise? Like, I got kids coming up to me, late teens, early 20s, screaming Ari, and I'm looking at them. And I'm going, how did you?
Starting point is 00:42:00 And they're like, yeah, since the pandemic, we've been, we've been binging it. I went back, yeah. So they're looking for, I really believe the variable is like, you know, they're not connecting to whatever is being shoved down their throats right now. And so no one's making these kids go and watch entourage. They just love it, told all their friends, and now, you know, they're binging it. And I'm honored. And there's this whole new, you know, crop of people.
Starting point is 00:42:27 But because I'm doing stand up and I'm on the. road and I'm on the street I am I get to see what they're really watching because they're coming up to me I'm going bro you're I got fucking moisturizer that's on my face it's older than you are you're fucking 20 years old right so um everybody loves fast cars and hot bitches though that's what entourage brought to the table I think well I thought you're gonna say moisturizer everyone loves some good moisturizer um yeah but but I mean I love a good moisturizer but the kids love bitches and fast cars they do and And it's funny that people are saying, you know, oh, it could never exist.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Not only could it exist, but it could really address what we've all been through, you know, with the overcompensation, how someone like Ari would have to navigate all that. That in itself would be a fertile premise for comedy. You know, Lloyd could be his politically correct consultants. Why do they think it couldn't be today, like the misogynistic thing of it? Yeah. Yeah. All those variables. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And it's funny because all the things that are a hit are old school stuff. Yeah. It's that stuff where it's real. There is misogyny. And they're dealing with it. You know what I mean? They deal with it like Taylor Sheridan. His show deals with all this stuff and has strong women.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I mean, the best part is Beth on Yellowstone. Or even his new show, Landman, which is so fucking good. It's incredible. Like his shows deal with the things, but in a real way, like when that. show me a girl naked and going she's 17 stop saying that we look up to make sure his daughter and landman he's not she keeps showing her no she's not but her character is oh that's strange she's like 26 or something they keep on her 17 when beth walked out naked and jumped in the tub in front of all the farm workers in front of rip who loves her and he didn't it was just like it was
Starting point is 00:44:19 it was like this is like awesome she doesn't give a shit like that's explain it to a female actress about doing nudity for the when you say it's like yeah we need you be doomed for this part like why because people just love it man it doesn't really need to be for the thing like why do you have to show her full frontal naked walking past the guy like
Starting point is 00:44:38 you don't if she really asked the question why do I have to be naked in this you don't because people will be stoked on it because Mr. Skin is the answer I guess but I think actors in that like she did the when she got sexually when she got raped in that scene she had Dominic
Starting point is 00:44:54 La Madosi do it. She was like, I don't want to be raped by a day player. I want a real actor to do this scene with me because it's not just me getting raped. You know, and he agreed to do it, but he said, I do not want my name in it and I do not my face in it. If you look, the guy hanging at the end is not him.
Starting point is 00:45:13 It's a day player who's hanging in the thing. And he's not credited in the show. But the reason why, if you look at that scene, it's not like she's beating up two dudes, right? Which would be unrealistic, which they do a lot now. Some girl can beat the fuck out of a bunch of dudes with guns. And it's like, all right, whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:32 She looks at him and goes, do it, you pussy. You've got a small dick. She uses her brain to fuck with his self-esteem to stall in enough time. She's like, fuck it. Go ahead, you pussy. Do it. You don't got enough to rip. It was just this real moment of, this is a terrible
Starting point is 00:45:48 thing with this strong woman who was like, go fuck yourself. And Lombardosie was great. you couldn't have done it with a regular actor you know the way you need a pro yeah i don't you could have done that you could have raped during that show yeah i i i believe in you i don't you believe i can do a good rape yeah i've seen your acting talents it's funny because when dom we had the same age for a long time and we were going for the same auditions and i'm just like yeah this is a waste of time just pick him would you i want to learn the lines bobby i'm
Starting point is 00:46:18 gonna be your agent again yeah uh we're trying to get you to do nudity on television yes okay Just like that. By the way, you know, because I've done a bunch of that stuff, and I don't know if you ever saw very bad things. Sure. Yeah. It's a very twisted movie. I use that as a reference on stage a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Like, this is what thing? He goes, what are you guys are doing hanging out? He goes, you guys just kill a hooker in a hotel room, and then you all start turning on each other because you think the other one's going to turn the other one in? And they never know what the fuck I'm talking. But somebody by the description, like, come on, guys, very bad things. Taylor Dane. By the way.
Starting point is 00:46:48 By the way. Terard Dane. Taylor Dane was in that. Her boobs. Before I did entourage. I, because of that movie, you know, now that, you know, they would scream R.A. But before that, they go, bro, you're the dude that killed the hooker in the bathroom. And, like, people would all look at me and I'm like, it's a movie.
Starting point is 00:47:04 It's a movie. But, no, but, like, you know, because I did a bunch of, because I was a lunatic on stage. Like, I grew up on the stage in Chicago, and I would do, we did the American premiere of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I did, we did a version of the book on stage that John Keesek directed. And I'm playing the, you know, Samoan attorney totally naked, peaking on five sheets of high power blotter acid with a fucking, you know, huge knife in my hand running around stage. So I guess in a weird way, I kind of like manifested all these naked roles.
Starting point is 00:47:42 But, you know, this is too much information I'm about to give you about my anatomy. That's making me think you have a fantastic penis for sure. I don't, I don't. You got a hanger. No, I don't, sir. I have, you know, it swings nice off, though. No. It looks like a, really, it looks like a spring mushroom.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Correct. You are correct, sir. No, what happens is it disappears. This is way too much information. I can't believe I'm even telling you this. I love it. Yeah, both of ours are inside our body right now. Once you said it, mine did start crawling back up.
Starting point is 00:48:12 It does have a strange reaction. Yeah. So, you know, it's, I'm a grower, not a shower. So you've got to, you know, commit to the bit. And, you know, it's all part of it. but in very bad things and you're going to think I'm talking shit right now I really didn't have a reference for porn
Starting point is 00:48:28 so I didn't know who Kobe Tai was you're gonna be like oh you're full of shit so I'm playing the scene with a porn star you know and I end up you know slamming her against into the towel spike and killing her and I just Accident, total accident
Starting point is 00:48:45 but I wanted to play a guy my hook into the scene no pun intended was that I I always wanted to play the guy who thinks that the stripper's really into him. You know what I mean? I just love that. I love that guy.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And so that was my whole thing with this guy, you know, so I started improvising. You know, he thinks she's really into him. And, you know, and so just playing that was amazing. And it was amazing to talk to this woman who was so intimidated by actors because she's a porn actor. I didn't really know. But then her clothes came off, and then she was in her element. and absolutely crushing it and I apologize because we're in the midst of it
Starting point is 00:49:27 and I almost, you know, there's so much interaction because we're both naked and I apologize and she's like, no, I thought, you know, because I, you know, she's used to penetration and I didn't even think of that. Yeah, she's trying to pull you in her. Yeah, and she can't get into her mood. Look, I'm really not going to be able to do what I do
Starting point is 00:49:47 unless you put it in me. If you five, you go, sorry, sweetheart, It's just not happening for me. And Taylor Dane was the other stripper, right? In that movie, I believe. I can't even remember. I think it was her and Taylor, Taylor Dane, the singer, Taylor Dane. Tell you, too, my heart.
Starting point is 00:50:02 She was the other one. She poured titty's out, too. Still looks good. Does she? Yeah, still looks good. So what do you think it is? Like, I was lucky to be a part of all these movies that, like, you mentioned old school, that, like, you know, you have to understand before Entourage, I did 40 movies.
Starting point is 00:50:18 and, you know, won the fresh face of the year at 40 years old, literally. And I said, there's nothing fresh about my face, but I'll accept this award. I was at the premiere of the car movie. What was it? The goods. In Vegas. It was a great movie. I love it.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I love that movie. Did Neil directed? Yeah, Neil Brennan. I got my feelings hurt at the premiere. It was one of those things where I was hanging out with Dane at the time. And I was like, we're going to the premiere. Dude, you know, Neil, come down. I knew Neil and I came down just come and I went down I was all excited in LA for this premiere
Starting point is 00:50:55 there's a circle of all of Neil and all the people and he's holding court and Dane walks up and Neil and and Dane's and all of a sudden he's talking and every time I'm just smiling listening and then all of a sudden Neil goes why are you here oh and I went oh I'm Dane invited me there's no room for you I'm Dane's plus one Get out of here, you dumb shit. Oh, fuck, did that hurt, man. But the movie, I fucking loved it. I thought it was great.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah, it's so interesting that, you know, I remember, you know, the castes, Dr. Ken and, you know, everyone in that movie. And it was, actually would make a really good TV series if you think about it. Yeah, I would. Yeah. But, you know, what's the variable? How much does, whoever is releasing it, how much money do they have for P&A? Are they, is it going to, they have commercials and billboards and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And, you know, I'm just a stage actor from Chicago. I didn't, and Adam McKay who produced it said, no, this is the way Hollywood is. They can buy that number one slot for you. But, you know, it was Paramount Vantage. They were going under at the time. So they didn't put any effort to do it. It doesn't matter that it's really funny and everyone loves it.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Do you know what I mean? So it's an interesting lesson and you have to learn how to detach yourself from the stuff. And that's kind of. It's going to be tough. Yeah, but it's, listen, it's all part of it, and you guys, I appreciate it, because you're naming all these movies that I loved and loved making them, and they're really good, but not everyone's seen them. Well, I've pushed for years, as we were playing the soundtrack in the beginning, Judgment Night, that movie, like, struck me. It was everything about it was so perfect for the time that it was. I'm thinking it was 93 or 4, and it came out.
Starting point is 00:52:41 It was the first CD I got on my boom box was that soundtrack that was the rap, rock mix. That was amazing soundtrack. And then the movie was just such a cool, it was such a basic idea. Great idea. Suburban guys get lost in the shittiest neighborhood. I forget where it was supposed to be. South Side of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And we filmed it in Chicago where I'm from. And, you know, I got to film in my hometown, live the dream. I made $50,000 for the movie. It was like more money than I could ever imagine. I made that on my cameo last Valentine's time. Yeah, you did. I'd give you 50 to never do that again.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I'll double it. I'll give you 50 more, and please don't do that again. I refuse. But that, I mean, you're in, arguably for me, like one of my favorite scenes of the movie. It also is a funny thing because, like, you know, your character in Judgment Night was the slick guy. Some of the other guys were, like, tougher guys. And so when the shit comes down, like, as the fat kid in my group always, I felt that scene was never better. It was slick, but I was better at that than, like, running from trouble.
Starting point is 00:53:43 So I was like, hey, guys, we're all going to fight. I had to stay back and fight because I'm not going to be able to outrun these guys kind of thing and that was the energy of the scene was like you're like confidently he was such like a sharky guy
Starting point is 00:53:54 he's like he sent them all his friends away and he goes I'm just going to work out of deal with them and then it goes bad spoiler alert I know it goes real bad your boy Dennis Leary throws me off the side of a building it was the first movie I think Dennis
Starting point is 00:54:07 was serious right that was where he played a bad guy his first like people like he can act too yeah he was doing some silly shit The bad guys were imagine Dennis Leary Everlast. Everlast, I know. When jump around is blowing up.
Starting point is 00:54:23 And I remember, you know, so we would film it, the whole, imagine doing an entire night shoot where you just have to become a vampire, you know? You're filming till dawn, six nights a week, whatever. It's all good. I was living the dream. But you hit, you know, we would go first and, you know, you hit your mark
Starting point is 00:54:41 and then they would, they would, you know, we'd take off and they're chasing us, right? and I looked down at my mark at one point and it was a swastika on my mark and I'm Jewish you know and it was one of these things where I remember that was the first time because I grew up in a school that was integrated I was the only white boy in my football team
Starting point is 00:54:58 and I invited everyone to my bar mitzvah and they didn't know what a Yamika was and they thought it was a pocket square and a frisbee so you guys had a great football team we had a great we had a great football team and I you know and I had a player coach I assume I'm going to pivot this whole show by the way
Starting point is 00:55:13 throwing that out there I've had Five good zingas. Let's go. At least. I was sports related, so you're getting a black band. So my jersey number said linebacker, my body said kicker. And, you know, do I get a Piven? Or no. There we go.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Sports related. Another black Pivot. We had an unbelievable, unbelievable team. And on that note, I mean, Evanston Township High School, where I went, had 4,200 kids. So imagine, it's just like a small college. I was tiny, undersized Jew, like Julian Edelman. The only difference between me and Edelman is he's an elite athlete. It's the only difference.
Starting point is 00:55:56 He had it. Can I say something? Got a big wang. I've seen it. Okay. I was in a locker room. I got in the locker room in Miami one time with the plane. Just you know, it sounds like you're saying you snuck into a locker room.
Starting point is 00:56:06 No, I got in. I got in. I got in with a friend of mine, Jimbaal Wahlberg, Mark's brother, who was a friend of mine, Belichick, we got in, I'm standing there, and he West Welk will walk by... Are you in West Walker, or are you talking about... No, Edelman.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Julian Edelman. No, it was West Walker. I'm sorry. Edelman's dick is small. Jimbo... Is that some sort of anti-Semitic thing you're doing right now? No, no, West Welk is Jewish, too. No, I don't think he is. All right, whatever. I'm trying to get out of this message. Jimbo... Jimbo Wallberg. Jimbo Wallberg.
Starting point is 00:56:40 He's got a lot of brothers, bro. Not all of them are famous. Are, is Jimbo one of the ones that doesn't deal with the famous ones at all? Yeah. Okay. He's the one who does. Because we've never heard of him. Yeah, I've never heard of him. And I've never heard of your one degree of separation from Mark Wahlberg before.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I mean, yeah. Why are we on up clanging and banging at fucking 2 a.m.? I told you that before there. That's my friend Jimbo. There's Jimbo. Yeah, he's. He's the older, Walwer, brother, correct? He's the older one.
Starting point is 00:57:06 He's a great guy. Yeah. Oh, there's that one time Mark Wahlberg and him met. Yeah. Hey, they tell me you're my brother. Yeah, he does a lot of charity. They clean the toilet at Municipal, you little fuck. Hey, someone tells me you're my brother.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Are you my brother? So go ahead. Jimbo. What are you saying about the... No, just that, you know, it was interesting, like, it was the first time I'd witnessed anti-Semitism. I was like, that's a swastika on my mark. It's really weird.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And I remember I confronted Everlasts and these dudes about it. Like, what the fuck is that, man? And the whole thing was, oh, bro, we were in character. And it's like, brother, I've been acting this. I was a child. And I know what method acting is. You're a fucking hip-hop dude. You know, that's not method.
Starting point is 00:57:53 That's anti-semitism. Like, it was just all very weird. But it's bizarre. It is bizarre. It's all part of it. Like, for me, I love acting, you know. And I've, I'm not saying things out of turn, but like, there wasn't. an actor on Entourage that did, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:12 some weird method shit with me. And, you know, it's like for me... Dice Clay. No, Dice is amazing, but I fucking love Dice Clay. I love Dice. He's my fucking hero. He's a great actor and he's my spirit animal. I mean, yeah, he's my...
Starting point is 00:58:27 Every reason I wanted to get in comedy. He's such a great actor, except... I did watch him sing Grease Lightning on stage when he was doing... Nothing wrong with that. No, but he's a great drummer, man. He's a fucking unbelievable... sick jazz drummer but when he sang grease lightning at the garden that really freaked me out it was
Starting point is 00:58:44 awesome you're not there for it dude you can judge for yourself um so for me uh like i i don't need um i i can get myself there in a scene no matter what and that sounds really fucking crazy but i don't need you to do some method shit i'm gonna do everything i can so i think that was one of those weird excuses that is you know that's like stanley kubber i was just talking to finoy about this in the way in about the stanley kubrick story was like he would be just rotten terrible to shelly duval in the shining to get her thing he goes you could probably just done the same thing by going like hey i need you to act a little differently in this like if you're going to be mean it anyway it goes hey could you act better instead of just treating her like shit to get her to
Starting point is 00:59:28 yeah he didn't need him to feel like real nazis were on set chasing you so funny it's like Everlast is like he's giving you the same excuse as Daniel Day Lewis I say bro you're now yo I was living it yo what would you do if it was Denzel fuck it did you say anything to him
Starting point is 00:59:48 he did he said absolutely could you imagine doing that today how much in trouble you'd get what depends is it at Harvard you'd be celebrated I think it depends where you go Columbia you do good Yale actually at all the
Starting point is 01:00:02 I was literally just handing out flyers at Harvard, and I just realized I'm a little Jew boy handing out flyers. It was not a good look, but it was all okay. Oh, good. That's fucking... We got to take a break real quick. Dude, you should stick around. Can you stay?
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yeah, but I don't want to intrude. No. Can you stay around? Please, man. Stick around. Jeremy Fibman's going to be at Sony Hall in New York City. October 19th. After that, you can see him in Irvine, California, and Addison, Texas.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Guess what? Me and Bobby, maybe you'll see us together somewhere this weekend. Who knows? We are going to be together all weekend. And you know what? You're trying to get me to do some weird shit, and I don't know if I want to do it. No, you're doing it. I know I've dressed like Cupid.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I get it, but I don't... You're dressed like Cupid. You can get your nails done with me. And we're going to get a fun color. I don't want to get... And we're going to match. I have a son. Dude, let's get matching.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I have a son. I have to explain Cupid. I'm not going to explain my nails getting done. You should use the nails as a diversion to never have to explain Cupid to them. because that's going to be way worse. I just might as just fucking do it. You know what? If anyone gives you shit about Cuba, just say it's Jeff Ross.
Starting point is 01:01:08 That's true. That's all you have to do. I can't just say it's Jeff Ross. It was before we take a banana for the ride, hit its Broadway run. All right, Big J is going to be at Helium Comedy Club Portland, the 2nd, October 2nd through the 4th, Funnybone, and Columbus, the 10th through the 11th. After that, Washington, D.C., Austin, Tampa, New Orleans for Skankfest.
Starting point is 01:01:27 BigJ.comedy.com for all his tickets, YouTube.com, slash at Big J.okerson, for his, live thing and his live show that he does once a week and his specials. Where are you going to be in Austin, by the way? Where are you playing? Me, mothership. Oh, nice. Comedy mothership. Nice. I'm familiar with that.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Yeah, it's doing all right for itself. I tell everybody, buy tickets, please, before he just sells out on Joe Rogan people. I know. You have to get tickets. Bobby Kelly's going to be a comedy to Carlson, Rochester, October 10th and 11th. After that, Tampa, Emmais, Pennsylvania, New Orleans, of course, for Skangfest. And then for tickets and all of his tour dates,
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Starting point is 01:02:19 Paco, you'd be such a hot chick. We'll be right back with Jeremy Pivot. It's the Bonfire.

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