The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Na'im Has Stories

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Na'im Lynn performed on the Kevin Hart Roast and is still talking about it a month later. In a recent podcast clip, Na'im claimed that Big Jay harbors a longstanding dislike for Kevin. Lynn said that the rivalry dates back to their early days in Philadelphia, alleging that Jay frequently talked negatively about Hart and his success as his career took off. Jay calmly addresses everything that was said and gives a possible reason for it. Of course Bobby defends his pal Jay perfectly. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early.  Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And now, the bonfire with Big J. O'Kerson and Robert Kelly. Be-pop, boop, slap in on your beat. Man. Couch dance, couch dance, put me in that couch trance. The girls here to fancy show bar, wet and wild. It's Texas style, but Jersey wild. Lab dances have priced for the next 30 minutes. You think you would have been a...

Cheyenne to the mainst. stage, Cheyenne to the main stage. Was that what you have done if comedy didn't work out? It's my dream job, man. It was his muscular black dude who wore a tuxedo with no jacket, and he was just jacked, and he was the fucking strip club announcer. Yeah. Sometimes I would skip right past the girls and look like, I'd go,

that guy's living it. It is a cool job. It can't be. It's got to be. I mean, if you have a voice and you're at a club all night with naked chicks and they're probably your best friend. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that I get old after a while. But I do feel like in some capacity, they'll be trickled down pussy. Because I've never met a strip club DJ who wasn't like, oh, yeah, no, you got late all the time. And it was like, not that they're always, like, fantastic looking or whatever, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean?

Just because the DJ, he's there. I love trickle-down pussy. It was the same when eventually one of the girls I drove, of the hookers I drove, eventually, like, winged pussy at me. Actually, two did. One, but it was after she's been ran through by, and I mean this 14 to 15 guys at the party.

So I wasn't doing that. And then the other one, I thought was gorgeous before, and then seeing her a year later, what drugs had done to her. And then she was like, so you want her to hang out? And I was like, hmm, mm-mm. I love that you said 14 or 15. You used to add to the extra one, maybe.

No, no, I said 14 of 15 Oh, I thought you said 14 or 15 No, she was taking them two at a time The only person who didn't go was the The bachelor It was the actual bachelor It went in with like Instead of going in with the girl

Who was at least like passably attractive He went in with the black girl who had a fucking Gummy haircut She had a Bobby Brown And he went in and fucked her And that was But the drive home I tell you of all things

Where you wish there was just voice memos Or any of that stuff existed back then the drive home from that gig particularly with a little old lady who didn't do anything one guy took her in the back and I don't know what he did with her but at one point they were making jokes

about having her clean because they're paying her and then a Gumby haircut black it was all replacement girls it was a ice storm out going to Ocean City New Jersey so it was going to be like an hour drive and I had to go pick them up

at their individual houses it was like the Thursday night at a comedy club when the headline only does Friday and Saturday yes Yes, I was feature headlining. Hey, come see me on Sunday when I'm headlining again. Feature headlining, for sure.

But I picked up an old lady and the Gumby haircut girl, and then the pretty girl drove herself out there. The pretty girl fucked 14 of the guys, two at a time. They'd go in the room with her. The black girl, that door opening and seeing her getting fucked. I mean, it was by like a schlubby white dude. and it was just her like bed over and she was like making all kinds of noises and shit

and then the old lady was just sitting out there like holding her purse in the living room because someone was going to steal it no she was just sitting there didn't talk she didn't talk on the way down or anything she wearing pearls maybe I mean she was running an old lady's outfit

she was wearing a blouse she was without any exaggeration at very least 60 yeah she was 60 years old I'd say and maybe in her 50s but she she dressed like like a fucking teacher you know she had like a below the knee skirt so nude stockings on like just

reasonable shoes she's not even a whore though her husband died and his social security isn't paying the bills so someone suggested this to her what's great was the little gumbie girl just came in like kind of ratty like clothes that she just kind of took off right away the pretty girl went and put on like a cheerleader costume and the old lady just sat on the couch holding her purse and then one of the guys i always say this about these some of these shows went bad this one these guys were so cool in my mind when I was driving them there I go I don't know what the third girl looks like yet I was like these guys gonna be pissed when they're having a bachelor party and they hire these are clearly prostitutes and they're horrible looking and um and then we got in there and they just kind of laughed at it and then like they said when the guy came up made me like I felt bad for laughing because I'm with her and one of the guy goes uh like one of one of the guys comes out of double teaming the other one the pretty one he comes out and he just goes around the couch he goes uh I mean, clean up or something.

We're paying you. And then eventually one guy came out of the thing, and he just goes, I'll go for it. And he just grabbed her by the hand. And she just gets up and walks in the bedroom with him. And I was like, oh, geez. Well, she must know that she's getting paid. Nobody's going to pick her.

Yeah. And if she does get picked. She did one thing that night. Yeah, it's one thing, probably an authoritic hand job. But that said, she's probably only making whatever, like, where the other girl the gang band girl's probably bringing home two grand when the guy came out though because you never know

she could be from the old west where she gives the best blow job in the world I don't remember I feel like there was some I would remember that from the story the guy coming out being like she was awesome I don't even know what they did but the drive home was funny because she fell asleep yeah no

it was the girl the black girl in the back talking my little fucking like hatchback Honda accord she was in the back and leaning I remember we were going through a toll booth we started like give the money to the person and she was in the middle of telling the story She goes I don't know what it is because but that white boy fucked the shit out this pussy She was just like you know real ghetto talking about getting fuck. He was like he was like blah Blah blah blah and it was just so humiliating

I'm like hey this is my mom's friend So you know I don't know what to say and we went back to the place And the other pretty girl met there and then she was like do you guys I bet my friend little jay with me and she goes you guys want to go get uh tea no denies i think it was we went to denies with the old lady no just me little jay and the pretty girl where did you drop did you drop the old lady off we all went back to the office oh you went there was an office there was like a hub yeah oh okay there's a hub yeah yeah or if you had dropped your off at an old house like the like the cartoon up yeah yeah yeah she just went on the oh it was no i picked her i picked them up at their

houses. And I also believe I did drop them off their houses. I think I went back to the office to give the money and whatever. Where did the old lady live? Like what type of place? Just like northeast Philadelphia. Roe home? She lives in a row home? Yeah. By herself. Everybody came out of a row. I had no idea. Oh my God. It's so sad. But the pretty girl. Just to see. All right, bye Helen. Did you have to help her up the stairs? That was a weird night. We went back to the office and the prettier girl was there. I guess to, but I don't know, like to square up or whatever, too. And I dropped the other two off, and I remember this there, me and Jay, and there was a girl at that point.

It was run by a guy, but there was a girl in the office at that point. It was just a big, huge loft with TV going and a desk. And she was into this desk, and as I'm giving her this stuff, she goes, do you want any Coke? And she just starts doing Coke? And I was like, oh, no, I'm okay. And then she goes, I fucking love Coke. And then she stood up on the desk and started, like, monkey barring on, like, the pipes

that were, you know, it was like a, And she was like monkey barring. I was like, okay. She was like a little pudgy, but like short, tiny thing, but she was like pudge. And she was just like monkey barring and like trying to get up on her knees and hang backwards.

And I was like, okay. And then we split. Well, the old lady, did she just make like a cup of Sanka? Holy-Dim went home. Oh, she's gone. I dropped the other two girls off. Oh, I thought you all went back to the office.

No, I dropped them off at home. Oh, okay. They weren't there at the office. So I dropped them off. Did you talk to the old lady at all? It's so fascinated. I don't remember any, I don't remember any conversation and forth at all.

The black chick talked a lot. But I didn't have them. But the pretty girl then suggested we go from the office. She goes, you guys want to go get some, like, food or something. So we went to a Denny's. And at the end of Denny's, she was like, so she goes, what are you guys doing now?

You guys want to, like, essentially, do you guys want to take a run at it? And it was just like, it hit me so hard. I was like, and be 15 and 16? Like, nah, we're pretty tired. I think we're going to hit the sack. Drop you off. So I said no to that, and then the other one was all.

She went from being so pretty to, like, grizzed out that when she flung it at me, I was like, no, you're definitely on drugs. Like, that wouldn't have just happened from not taking care of yourself. Like, you were like your asshole turned brown. Aye, aye, aye. I told you, she went from being the hottest chick that I drove for, like, the first year that I did it at all to that second year when I picked her up, like, the guys were making fun of her. At the party, the guys were, like, making fun of her.

I go, why is her asshole so brown? I love that that's a lifespan of a whore is one year. They come in. If the junk get you. And they're just dead at the end of a year. No doubt. It's like a butterfly's life. Unless you're the old lady where you'll last longer.

If you just do one. Just keep it mellow. Keep it mellow. One guy a party. Wear a blouse. Take your slice. Don't be greedy. Take your slice.

Hold your purse the whole night. How old was the old lady, do you think? I said. At 60? Oh, my God. You know, I've been with older. prostitutes. You know I've been. You asked for him.

De Rosa, too. I've been with all the prostitute and when I was in Brazil I went with there was, you know, smoking hot young girls but there was always this you know, I wouldn't say she was 60 but she was definitely mid-40s like always hanging out. And one day she, I was just out front having some rice and chicken at the little cafe out front and she came over and sat down. We just started talking and she's, we just talked for like an hour. And then she's like, do you want to go?

You owe me $80. No, she's like, do you want to go? And I was like, yeah, why not? And we just went to the little hotel. I had two hotels. She just some lady? I had the main hotel. And then I had another hotel behind it, which is a shitty hotel for like, you know, stuff.

You got two rooms. I got two rooms. Jason Steinberg, no, Evan Steinberg had a room. We paid for the fancy hotel on the beach. Right behind us was a shittier hotel. By the club. Not by the club, but kind of just behind our fancy hotel. And he was leaving.

So he was like, you want this room? So I just took it. So I had two rooms. So instead of bringing people back to my room, I would just bring them to that room. It was a little safer. And I didn't have to worry about my shit getting rummage through.

And I just went back there with him. We sat down and talked and she massaged me. She did like old lady stuff to me. Can I draw you in Epsom salt bath? Sometimes... We should get some sleep. No sleeps. Very important time for body healing.

Sometimes the old ladies do a little more. Ew. Well, when I went to that truck stop and got jacked off by that older lady, I didn't feel like it was particularly great because she was old. I felt like my dick hairs were getting caught in her turquoise rings.

She had Indian turquoise rings. She had turquoise rings. And remember my dick hair's going, ping, pung. I told you that one lady actually read my fortune with stones, like before, and then after. It was a whole thing. After your, oh, you're good now. She actually helped me with my anxiety.

She gave me, like, she goes, this thing. Before I was leaving, she goes, I want you to have this stone. This is going to help with your anxiety. I was like, thank you. I wish I still had that little stone. That would be your Ari story? What about that? It goes, they said you're cursed, and then that prostitute sat on your wiener and sucked the curse out, and then she dies.

I remember she took, she had a cream. she had some type of cream in a Tupperware container that she microwaved. And I don't know, it could have been manis. I don't know what it was. But she heated up like a homemade cream in the microwave. To do what? At the end of the massage, to kind of rub you out and, you know, oil you up a little bit. With hot cream?

It was warm cream, yeah. And I don't... What else is warm cream, Bob? I don't know. It was weird. It was the jizz of her other clients. Oh, man, it really... It healed all my wounds.

If she was hilarious... It actually... Oh, dude, that's like stem cells. Yeah, yeah. It was the original peptide. Yeah. But as what she does, she collects the jizz of all of her clients and then microwaves it when a dummy comes in and goes, hey, you just want to massage, okay. And then she just rubs the cum of all of her clients on you.

My knee felt better. Oh, dude, she did wonders for you. It's like, dude, that's like cocoon. You don't want to leave oiled. No, she, what happens with the, when I was, I was really into massage back in L.A. at one point. You weren't. I was. You went to hand jobs and you took a massage.

Well, you know, you can look at it that way. Yes. But the reason why I say I'm really in the massage pot because I didn't like to just go in and get jerked off. Right. You know I love a story. Bobby needs a narrative. Okay, listen, you're M. Butterfly and I'm a soldier.

This lady was, she would, like I said, she would take you in. You would sit down in a robe and talk for a while. then she would ask you about your problems. And then go over certain stones. She had all these stones. What's your problems? You have unmasobated penis? Oh, she was a white lady.

She was a chubby white lady. And then she would give you this amazing hour and a half massage. And at the end, I guess it was jizz. It was a homemade cream that she microwaved. Oh, she didn't whack you off at all. Well, at the end, when you rolled over, she wound up whacking you off. This is the 40-year-old prostit. It's a 47-year-old prostitute.

This is the original one that I went with. And I went with the old 60s, 8-year-old one, which kind of ruined it. We weren't. This one was actually, and then at the end, she took you in and showered you. She washed you, like a Roman god. You just showered you and scrubbed you down and then dried you off, put you back in a robe, and then you went back out to the stones. Yeah.

And then she would pick the stone that would help your, and then you'd be on your way. Well, how big was the stone? Do what with the stone? Well, the stone, certain stones are supposed to help you. Poor hot come on your back and get out. Wait, no. Hot stones, hot load, out. You take the stone to go?

She would give you the stone, yeah, you'd get the stone to carry around in your pocket. You've got a horse stone. Well, you could use the stone to scrape your shirt off your back later when all the cum sticks your shirt to your back. I wish I kept that stone. I don't know where it is. You come scraper? I would keep it in my pocket because I was supposed to help me with my anxiety. It didn't, though.

I did book a couple gigs after that. It might have worked. It might have worked. Nope. Yeah. Women, a lot of L.A. women love crystals. They believe in the power of crystals. It was one of those.

Crystals. She was a crystal massage jerk off woman. When I was in Amsterdam with DeRosa, we were walking through the Red Light District. And, I mean, I swear to you, as I was pointing at a lady behind a window and going, like, look at this old fucking biddy not giving up on it with her gym teacher hair. Oh, all right, Joe's in there. He likes an old broad And now I guess a guy in a dress

That's what Patrice did He went to like four different places And came out He's like not that one He just right before something would happen He would stop and just go I'm good and leave He did four in a row

And then he found some old Dutch broad Jesus I remember we were across the canal We were like what are you doing And he went in And you just I think 15 minutes went by And she came over

And she had a sign in the window that said open and then she just turned it closed like she shut down for the night and then he came out and he was like I did that's the one and that was the chick that he went for it's like it's weird I went in that same trip

but it riddles the question do you take quality of sex over quality of looks at some point because I went right next to Joe with a girl who I would say was one of the most stunning chicks. She was so

just a young, gorgeous chick, perfect body. Like thin, small titties, killer ass, wearing some like garter belt thing. And I mean, she couldn't have fucked me more clinically. Like, I gave her the money and she was like, she was like, suck it for 30 seconds. And then, I mean, you were getting no other position other than like her face down, ass up, hands on a wall.

That's why I always say, pushing back into you. And then talk shit until you come. I love a chick with a goofy face and a hot body because they're going to try a little, you know what I mean? It's a little, they're going to try better. It's going to be a better conversation. You go with a hot chick. Dude, I was fucking.

And they know they're fucking hot. So it's like. Dude, she was stamping me on a conveyor belt. By the way, she made me fucking finish in. I was in that place for under 10 minutes, all in, including even going like, so what's the deal here? You know, like, even that shit. Well, I went in to get you in there, kind of really nice and personable. But once I went in, she's like, okay, wash your penis in the sink.

And I was like, me wash my penis. Wash your penis. Wash your penis. Yeah, but it's like. You think my penis is dirty. Wash your penis, sir. I haven't fucked anybody. You've been here all night in a window.

Like, shouldn't you be over here next to me? What if she just stepped on a trash can pedal? And when it opened up, you saw just like 15 douche in the bowl. She goes, yeah, gone. Yeah, it was very clinical with the hot chicks. I remember I wound up going, well, when me and Keith first got there, we went to the local Red Light District. There's two, there's the tourist with all the hot chicks.

I think all he went to the tourist. We went to the local one, and they were, I mean. Frumps? Oh, my God, dude, it was terrible. It's a fat American girl's named Denise. But we didn't know. There was like a chick with acne. I remember Keith went with a chick with acne.

And we swore it off. Like, we were like, we're done. The prostitution flim flam is a tried and true lifelong thing because you're praying on the idea that a guy is going to be horny enough and not psychotic enough that when you pull a flim flam and whatever shows up or whatever you're getting for the thing, that you don't kill them or fucking just freak out. They're praying on the idea that you're going to get there.

And you're like, well, fuck, I want to fuck. So, okay. But I mean, it's only back when I went, it was 50 American dollars to go in and have sex with a woman. I was at the point where I was trying to go with women that looked like girls I wanted to be with back in school. Like I was trying to find girls that I've always wanted to be. I found a couple, dude. I found a couple that. I was like, oh, that looks like that girl in my history class.

And I went in. The last one I went with was actually the best one. She was actually a school teacher, married. and she was like voluptuous and we had she didn't rush me she took her time it was the afternoon but uh it was actually the last one was a good one yeah I think Keith went into a tranny one

because he went in and came right back out one night he said god damn he finished that fast I don't think God damn that's my new thing oh I remember well Lou you said how how clinical it was for you in Amsterdam you, they made you bang on a butcher paper.

Yes. That doctor roll of paper they pull out on the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? I went to Amsterdam. This thing had the tearaway paper. Yeah. The doctor roll paper?

And she made you on that? Yes. She put the paper down. It was in Amsterdam about 10 years ago. The parchment paper. And every time you, you know for sure, at least when you come or if you have any kind of contraction, your butt cheeks are going to make that paper crinkle and make all that noise. It did.

Yes, it did. It was broad daylight. She didn't dim the lights at all. Oh, God. But I was so happy that I completed the act under all these adversities. It's such a weird thing that Amsterdam tolerates. Time for brunch. Tolerates sex.

Like, it's just a job that a girl can do and nobody's going to really fuck with her for it. Oh, when she was done, she said, welcome to Amsterdam. Damn, that's eerie. Yeah. That's ominous. I was going to a hostel where they fucking kill you for money. I went to Amsterdam at Louis the last time, and I went to the Red Light District,

and I had no temptation at all to go in. What base are you covering there are using us for? I'm just saying that. Yeah, okay. I'm just saying that. You're getting it on record for some reason? I'm just getting it on record. I wouldn't even ask that.

Yeah, I know, just in case. I went with Louis last time, and we didn't even think about it. I just went to make sure that I was as great a person as I thought I was. Well, because any time I went to Amsterdam, That was like the first thing I wanted to do. And the last time I went to Amsterdam, I was there for three days, and I didn't. But it was still the first thing you wanted to do. But you didn't do it.

I didn't do it. That's the important part. It's because it's so, it's not a thing in that place. It's not a bad thing, so. No, I mean, it's still morally. But when I used to drive, that was the funniest. There was sometimes you just pick up a girl and you'd go, it isn't going to be a problem. Like, you just pick her up and you go,

like the program i'm going to deliver this girl and the guy's going to be like what then when that happens that sucks i told you guys a story before about i brought some goth girl to some like really nice neighborhood kind of thing it was an apartment building i guess but it was not it seemed nice you know what i mean and i was like this isn't what this guy is expecting and of course she fucking waddles back to me two minutes after going to the door and being like he said he's not doesn't what he either they didn't call or that he didn't whatever he's just trying to say now it wasn't him and so he can like get out of it right and then I was like I kind of have to go get my money like because no matter what he has to give like the 50 some bucks that

would have been mine right so I was like uh so I went up to the thing and knocked and she like follows me over there and I knocked on the door and the guy answered and he was like I was like hey and he was like nervous you know what I mean and I was like I was like I go I just kind of like you got to give the money that's like for me bringing her you know I mean like the the thing is like you still pay that's like they tell you that or whatever you know and it's in the small print so did you pull out the small print no no no no he was just like I don't know if he agreed I don't remember if you agreed or whatever it was I was ready to just be like I do it it is what it is and she was just like oh no hell hell

and she started unplugging his VCR and like fucking I was like stop stop please she was like no hell no I'm taking something this fucking fat goth chick walking around and he by the way he would of let her take the VCO? He just wanted this out of his house. He didn't even fuck her and now he's dealing with all of it. I said that's the, I got off easy. So you had to just pick what they sent. You couldn't pick from a, like, photos or something? I'm sure you do. Or they, I'm sure over, this is also back at a time

where it's not, like, this wasn't on the internet. So you'd call like the place and they'd probably be, or maybe it was a Mac, you know, a newspaper or something. You know, like a Philadelphia Weekly type thing. I don't know, but it was like, It was probably more than they would call and goes, oh, we have a stunning redhead who's blah, blah, blah, and so fresh and fun. But it's just like some fat chick who works at fucking right aid

and has three half black kids. Stunning redhead. She's not stunning, even sort of. Riddled with stretch marks and shit. And you're like, oh, my God, dude. I know this isn't what they said. I know they didn't tell this guy goes, we're going to send our sloppiest girl in sweatpants over.

It's so I've been to a couple of those Bachelor party things but it always felt To me it was just too rapey You know what I mean? It was too I was like Dude get in there. I'm like no I don't want to fucking I don't want to I still I can still pick up a girl Like I can still bang a chick or if I'm gonna do a prostitute

It would like be some you know I want to I want it to pretend that it she's into me a little bit But even that I would know it just I'm too sensitive to that so it's actually surprising how many like times it's not a ton but I mean like even like the handful of prostitute stories I have doing it I used to drive them all the time but like actually doing it is like I didn't feel bad when I was doing it and I didn't have it's not Isabella it wasn't Isabella or anything like that I don't think it was just some point I just had a shift in like morals just I'm like it's just so like to pay someone let you do something it's like it should be something by the way I'm I get like

not emotional like sex, like functional sex and having fun, but it should be like fun for both people. That's more what it is, is what it is. You know what I mean? It's like she's letting me have fun with her so I could, you know, for money. And I'm like, no, I don't want her.

That's what I'm saying. I'd be out there. I would have had AIDS if I kept fucking prostitutes because I would have just been the guy known for eating hooker pussy constantly. Do you know how close? Because he never fucked me. He just would eat my pussy for like an hour.

You know how close we came to AIDS though? I would love to have a thing where you could test how close you got to AIDS. Yeah, I can't... Thank God our wiener. I heard AIDS starts at eight inches in, so I was fine. I was all right.

I was no problemos. Yeah. Yeah, it's such like a seedy world. And then also doing the SDR show, and like, every girl that left was like, hey, Hugh dropped me off to this guy. I'm going to blowbang all of his friends for $3,000 or whatever. Like, okay. Do people...

So, I mean, I don't even know if so out of the world, people still do these higher prostitutes for bachelor parties, just going to bang everybody? Is that still a thing? I don't know. I don't know if it's still. I mean, I haven't done it in so long. Back then it was like there was nobody had a full, you know, 4K video camera on their phone.

I couldn't imagine a room of guys, especially if it's like 15, 30 guys. And, you know, Bachelor parties, it's not always everyone knows each other. You know what I mean? Sort of like some people were meeting like that day or acquaintances because they're friends of friends. And you get into something like that and it's like, everyone's got phones and shit. Like who's going to do that? You wouldn't trust that. Well, you always see the guys personally think you knew or his personality come out

when some naked girl gets in the room and they turn into this fucking weird sex thing. And it's like, ugh. I can't, I never understand that. I can't, I couldn't show my sexuality in front of a room full of guys like they're not there. Like you would never see me to strip club because of a girl going, ooh, that's a fucking nice pussy. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't either. Like, I just would never, it would.

never even dawn on me to do that he goes that's a fucking goes man those tits man let the fucking suck on those fucking tits yeah don't say that I have a friend that does that but he'll if a girl hot girl walks by he'll go that's just completely visual

look he does he follows gaze yeah and there's a oh Louis Lewis Lewis is a fucking every girl he just does like he does almost like the 80s movie turnaround

where you turn to me and goes, oh, hey. You must be new. I mean, literally walking down the steps of the comedy mothership, just like the staff girls that are just going, oh. I told you, that's how I was able to escape the bar they all go to afterwards. Oh, Mitzies? No, no, they go to some other place. I figure what's called.

Oh, I know what you're talking about, yeah. It's a good name where they all hang out. They have the back room. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that place. Until I was able to escape it, the guy, the billionaire, who owns the place. came over with like two just girls in party dresses. And he was like, guys, these are so and so and so and so.

And then I was like, hi. And I shook both their hands. It makes, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. And then Lewis was like, oh, hey. So you got. And I was like, perfect. He's distracted.

And I just left. I left and walked right out. And then I filmed my exit, famously filmed my exit. We had this. And everybody's talking about that fucking, what's his name? made a video, was on a podcast, kind of throwing you

onto the bus today. Oh, Naim? Yeah. Well, it's interesting what that brought on. Funny enough, I saw this last night. You could play it.

You want to play it? Christine? Yeah. Do you have it? Yes. Yeah, it's, I mean, so many people that sent it to me today.

I mean, it was ridiculous. I thought it was actually going to be something nice. When I turned it out, I'm like, oh, he's going to say some, I'm like,

this is nice. It's going to be. Well, Zysav keep saying, like, Naeem wrote his own jokes, too. Yeah. And it was cool to kind of throw me and him, like, the nod of doing it. Well, if there was any two guys on that roast that belonged there that actually did it from the heart, it was you two. And did fucking great. Yeah, yeah.

I thought the best. Yeah. Still hates Kevin. He hates Kevin. He hates him. He won't say he fucking hates him. I know he hates him. Why does he hate him?

He's always hated him. Oh, he's always. He's always hated Kev. Back to Philly. He didn't like it. He's always hated Kev. Keith Robinson was their mentor. And Keith got them when they were early in the games that come to New York.

And Kev kept going. And Jay was like, I'm not going up there to fucking sit around and not get on stage. You know, especially if it's your only job, it starts to become expensive. You know, you got to pay the train or the toll of you drive and all of that. And when Kev started to succeed, he was just like talking shit about him. Not even fucking funny, just short and black. You know, he say shit like that. He hate him.

So now, you know, for him to have to... Well, for Kev obviously still, like, he put him on the stage. Yeah, Kev, he's just a different type of dude, man. I love that. He looks, he's always trying to provide an opportunity, you know. Big Jay does have his own following and he's doing great. But I don't think, I think that Big Jay did it for the opportunity itself, not to honor Kevin. So I just know that I know what I witnessed early in the game.

And he could have changed. He may feel differently now, but his energy did not say so. Jay, I was going to. Your tell to everyone is on. Unbelievable. Your body language always gives up the rage you have inside. Yeah, yeah, I'm brilliant. D.L's producer and now this guy.

I know. I was going to come back at this pretty, like, aggressively, ultimately. I was pissed. I know, but I had to call me down on the phone earlier. I was, I was very, I was very mad at it. Number one, I thought I was going to have orange juice. It was milk. Oh.

And then it's like, I'm mad at it for, first of all, I'm so sad that, you know, comics we used to be like the mob like if we had problems we dealt with it we never fucking went outside of the family and now it seems like every comic anytime a mic's in front of them

just says shit that the audience isn't supposed to know you're not supposed to know our fucking our little differences or things that we work out because we always work them out and to go on a show like this

and to say things that you think not things you know. Well, no, he does say he does say he knows things, which is crazy. But he's saying, basically, it is things he thinks. These are things he thinks. Sure, sure. This isn't shit he knows. Right.

And also, the fact that he brings up career shit, it always bothers me because people say, because little, how successful little Kevin is, you don't understand that there's that success where you're making that much money. But you've been successful and you've made. made it years ago. You brought up a child. You have a house. You pay your bills.

You do, you have two cars with stand-up comedy. And that's it. You know, when you, when you pay everything with comedy and your jokes are paying your fucking your life.

And also paying for other people's lives. You made it. I don't, they have, like people who send to have this thing. It's like either you become this, either you're up there, with Shane and Kevin or you didn't make it.

It's like if you're if you're telling jokes and you're paying your bills with jokes, you fucking made it. That other shit is another level of stuff, but it's all relative. To me, it's all fucking relative. And to say to compare you like in your brain, because I look at man, I know you. I came up with you.

You had a shit car, no money. And you were doing standup and coming in from Philadelphia. for you every fucking night. And I remember you had nothing. You had nothing. You had nothing. And just to be at your house this weekend, outside, watching a fight with all this food and a pool and a jacuzzi and two cars and to be able to just make this whole night

on a Sunday night. And it's this beautiful thing. And I'm looking around going, this fucking kid, man. I was happy. Like I'm sitting around going, you made it. You did it. You're doing it. And from where you, when you used to drive me around, it's like, this is fuck, this made me

annoyed that he would compare that you ever, ever, out of any of the comics, you've never looked at anybody on a level. You've always treated people how they treated you. If they were cool, you like them. If they didn't. But also, the thing that we say about Kevin, you know why we say that about Kevin? You know why we talk shit about Kevin? Because we love Kevin.

We fuck with Kevin and we say shit because we came up with Kevin. And that's what comics do. We fucking make fun of each other. Sure. And we're supposed to be trying to be funny at all times. What's what I was saying? When he kind of said that thing, he's like, he's like, short black, whatever. But he's like, he goes, not funny.

He's not funny. He's just short and black. I go, I've never said that. And that's the interesting thing about like, so going through what he said, my first reaction was I just saw it right away and I just clippedics. All I would worry about is that's something that trickled to Naim from Kevin. So I messaged Kev last night that video. and I was like, hey man, this is like a bummer.

I'm like, I don't know. I go, I would hope that this isn't the way you feel at all. You should have, I hope you wrote, you are short and unfunny. I go, I mean, facts are facts, doll. But, no, I was like, thank you. I was like, I was like, yeah. I go, I go, I go, and then I wrote, I was like, actually all the backlash of all of it kind of sucks. I go, man, I really thought it was, like, such a fun experience that night, such a crazy experience.

I'm like, the stuff's coming back. And then he, uh, this morning, he wrote back and was like, uh, I mean, really, I mean, that's, I don't think I'm, like, overstepping to even say. He was just like, I don't know, he's being an idiot. I don't know what it is. Like, he's like, I don't know what that's about or something. He goes, I've heard you all these years talk about a relationship, never, like, negatively at all.

I'm like, good. And that kind of, like, sealed it up for me. It goes on for that. But to go with the video itself of the things that were said, it's interesting because, like, he's got, like, elements in there that are, like, just there almost. You know what I mean? Like, but he's not telling the whole thing. So I thought it was interesting when he goes,

Jay didn't want to keep going up and said like, and by the way, because I think I, my story has been a story, according to Kev, years ago, that he kind of like would pound into Naeem if Naim was getting lazy. He'd like,

man, Jay used to blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? He's like told me like that same kind of thing. Well, you said it to me that you used to not want to go in and they forced you to do it. So what he's talking about,

he goes, he said, I didn't want to go in. And he's right, because it was expensive and it was that. And it was just like, I had a girlfriend. You know, when we were going up there, it was fun when we got up there, but I'm like, I'm making zero money.

I'm relying on other people for food half the time. And, like, you know, I'm driving because they're paying, Kevin Keith would pay for gas and told whoever drove, the other people paid for everything. So I would drive all the time. And I'd be driving them tired. It was a lot. So a lot of times I was just like, Sixers are playing the night. I mean, I just want to sit home watch Sixers game.

And eventually what he's talking about is Keith told Kev, like, I'm going to stop pushing Jay. I'm going to stop trying. Not helping it all, but he's like, I'm just not going to like, because he's done it a thousand times, Keith, for a thousand people who stopped coming. And he's like, all right. So he was like, he's going to kind of bail on giving a shit too much about it. And Kev called me to be like, hey,

Keith's saying he's going to be like, he's not going to keep calling you to like trying to get you to come up if you're not going to do it. So he's going to bail. And then I said, I was like, oh, he's like, so you got to start coming up, man. Like, I told him, like, I told him not to give up on you. And I'm going to call you. And it was kind of a cool story, and it got me, and then I started going.

I said, and I know that story so well because it was such a domino effect. Right after that, I talked to my ex-girlfriend, and I was like, hey, she was my girlfriend at the time. And I was like, hey, I got to start going to New York like five, six days a week with these guys. I'm going to be gone a lot, like pretty much right when you get home. I'm already gone and we'll see each other like one day a week we can hang out maybe, you know. There's a watershed moment that we all have in our careers where something happens where you have, You make the choice to fucking. Yeah, I was like, I'm going to put my nose down and grind.

Right. We're going to come up six days a week and do it, which I did end up doing. Yeah, like when Patrice and Billy and Dane all moved to New York, I was back waiting tables alone. Right. And then I got a phone call from Matt Frost was like, hey, I saw your acting real. If you ever moved to New York, I'd like to rep you. I quit my job. And in a month, I was living in Billy Burr's apartment.

And I was, let me tell you something. You don't know how terrifying it is to come to New York City. As a stand-up comedian. Because you're coming from your hometown where you're family, your friends. I also came right from like my mom's house. Yeah, you feel, you feel comfortable. I mean, it's comfortable.

When you go to New York City, the feeling of the weight on your shoulders just going into a club and walking around the city, taking the train up, finding a parking spot is fucking overwhelming. It's daunting. It's daunting. So to get over that hump and to do it is an astronomical feat.

and that's why, like, guys like you and me, like you came after us to see you guys coming into the club. You had to... And you guys also watched Keith bring, try to do this for... And I don't even name names. It's funny guys. It's got nothing to do with that. It's just that he would try to get him...

And they were like, I'm happier being big fish, small pond. I'm okay. Or, you know, I'm going to go this way. Patrice lived with Al Del Benny, who was, you know, me, Al and Dane and Billy, we all came together. Al DeLenny lived in Patrice with Patrice and Will. Yeah, yeah. Patrice would go in his room every morning and open the door and go, Al,

yo, bro, you should quit. You don't got it. And he'd be like, ha-ha. And he'd be like, I know you're laughing. I'm dead serious, dude. You don't have what it takes to do comedy because you never go in the city and you just... Show it home. And he's every morning he would go in his room.

I was there a bunch of times where he'd just be like, no, seriously, Al. Like, it was this thing. Like, hey, Al, what's up, bro? I'm making eggs. You should quit the business, bro. You don't got it. And I would laugh and you'd be like, I'm dead serious. You know, because it's, there is a point where it's like you have, either you're going to go in every fucking night.

People don't realize that. I was a good example. That was a very funny guy. I remember Al being around when I first came up here. He was around a little bit. And then just wasn't at one point. And then you're like, oh, that's one of those guys. You're like, oh, yeah, Al though.

Well, here's a thing. He moved to Australia and found his thing. He's like, audience. Yeah, he found his audience. He's in Australia. Her family's in Australia. Oh, I was married. So yeah, he has kids.

He's out there. but he found his thing and he's killing it in Australia. Funny fucking guy. But you can be the funniest guy in the room. But if you don't go, if you don't have that moment where you go in and pay your dues, at least it was back in the day, I mean, now you do a TikTok and you're selling out of fucking arenas. But back in the day, you had to show up every night and it sucked. You didn't get on or you got a late spot.

You had no money. You didn't eat. I mean, I remember being on the bus having $50 to my name, taking a car, taking a cross-town bus to go do a spot for nothing. I said, I remember, like, finding $20 in a deli once, just, like, in front of the cash register, like, fell out of someone's wallet into, like, the candy bins right there. And I was like, I found it.

And I was like, I mean, I called people. I was like, I mean, everything's turned around for me, guys. I just found $20. Dude, one night when I was going back from the cellar, I used to take the six train down to Aster, and I walked by this deli that had chocolate pretzels in the window. And I always walked by, but I didn't have enough money to buy them. So one night I had a token and I had $2 and I went and did a spot at the Boston.

And it was a great night. I had a great spot. And on my way back, I went and I bought myself the chocolate pretzel. And I'm eating the pretzel and then I got to Astor Place. And I didn't have a fucking token. That was my $2 for my token. Oh. I had to walk to 97th Street from Astor Place.

With a melting hot chocolate pretzel. At 2.30 in the morning. I had to walk 100 blocks. It was like, but the, But there was no, I couldn't call anybody. There was no, I had no, that was my last few hours. Venmo, me. Yeah, there was no, there was no options.

It's just said, walk home, stupid. And the shit we did and the shit you did and the fact that, and I know when, I know you feel about little Kev, because you don't want to do the roast. You don't like roasts. It wasn't like, it wasn't like, it wasn't like. The works is daunting. Yeah. As hell.

And you did it because you love Kev. Well, for sure. So I kind of want to address the things like almost in order of what he said. So that was the interesting thing about that wanting to quit. Now, what I do. You find interesting about that with Naime. And I always, I want to start with this. Not that I'm going to say bad things, but I was like,

Naima was really funny when he started. He was cool looking as shit. He was a temple student, and he didn't have short hair like that. He used to have like the thin, like little Wayne kind of braids. Good looking kid. And I thought he was very funny. He'd stopped doing comedy at one point. Like when he's, like Kev like resurrected him to do to become like one of his boys, you know,

like he was his friend and Kev looked out for him. But, like, so when he was like when Kev left, whatever, I'm not sure if Naim was like around. When Kev left, we were already going to New York for like two years, like driving up and back for like a year, at least a year, two years, before Kev kind of went to L.A. Because he got the Judd Apatow pilot. Is he part of the plastic cup boys?

Yeah. Which is, can you just explain what that is? It's Kev's like friends that kind of like that's, like, that's like just rotating crew guys that like a little. open for him. And do they help, they help him write stuff? I'm sure they help him write. Right.

Any kind of, yes. I think they're all involved probably helping Kev right a little bit. Right. So just, just for reference that you came up with Kev, you, you Keith and Kev came up together, but you went off to make your own thing and become your own guy. Right. Well, listen, it was, it wasn't that Kev also was like, hey, come with me. You know what I mean?

Would you have been a plastic cup boy? No. Well, I mean, you know, probably at a point. I would have agreed to be anything that would give me some money for sure, yes, absolutely. But one thing I realized very quickly in the thing was that, like, Kev, I'm not saying he does this with, because I got Spank, I fucking love Spank. And Naim, I have no problem, Niam. It's great that he took care of all his friends.

Absolutely, but Spank's fucking hilarious. Naim is very funny. They're both funny guys. I don't know Joey Wells, and there's a couple other guys I think he's had in there before, too. like his guy that's like the writer guy too Kevin something I think also but no they're all talented guys got nothing to do with that would I yeah probably

but I don't know if I would have like me and Kev's comedy didn't really blend well like overlapping when I would open for him like early in black circuit stuff even it just wasn't it in the same it wasn't in the same notes I was always too dirty well you didn't bring you a t-shirt yeah I wasn't bring people know that I thought they rule no but it was more of that

you already laughed now it was more about um just like I said he just different you know if he was drawing a different audience than me we were just different energies and that was too dirty you know what I mean really keb wasn't really that all that dirty yeah so like uh yeah and we kind of had our different styles and went like different paths in that regard but he left for L.A. when we were like that's he left for L.A. like in the height of our closeness like you know what I mean like he was talking to me about movement when he first moved to L.A. and was writing the big house show he would call me and tell me about what he was writing with Ian um she had knife like a fucking asshole edwards edwards edwards i love ian great great writer and uh so he was working with ian which i know he's excited about and he was telling me about so so i'm saying like that that's a like a real miscommunication somewhere within that he left and i was mad about now if you're saying i busted kev's balls or made fun of him over the years like of course yeah dude we all have i told you

little kev saw me in an airport at six in the morning i kicked his louis vaton luggage over and i'm pretty sure i told one of those plastic cup boys to go pick it up You know what I mean? But I love little Kev. I think Christine could tell you from many years ago at this point. Do you remember what it was, we were walking through Times Square. And it was the first time I think Kev was a voice of something, as a major voice of a cartoon.

And it was like, so-and-so and Kevin Hart. And it was like the two cartoon characters thing. And I remember saying out loud, I was like, damn, go get him, Kev. I'm like, holy shit. You remember that? The Rock and Kevin-Rard. Maybe the old secret life of Ed.

Maybe. But whatever it was, I just saw him on a DreamWorks thing. It's like Kevin Hart and the Rock. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, wow. Like, what he's ascended to is nuts. It's nuts. So even, so. Well, you also have watched movies and been like, damn, usually funny in these movies.

Yeah, I've also said, yeah, I think Kev's funny. So that's the thing he's not funny. He's black and short and out. What I, again, like to the credit, I go, what was interesting was I always tell the story when we first got to New York. They opened the door for Kev kind of quick. And me and Kurt, they were kind of like, yeah, signups are in the back. You know what I mean? Essentially.

You don't think I felt that with Dane? Of course. No, but I'm saying, they explained it. I didn't even get signups in the back. I got you can't come in. It was an explanation that was so, made so much sense to me that I didn't even question it. They went, oh, dude, he goes, funny, charismatic, good looking, in shape, black guy, non-threatening, white people aren't afraid of him at all.

So it's like, he'll get every audience will love him. And I was like, about all tracks. I've seen Kev Worker Room as an open mic or, of course. This is what he also had. he wanted to be famous. Of course. Like Dan Cook wanted to be famous. I feel like you and me,

we wanted to be, we cared more. I think fame, I wanted to not work a real job. I wanted to be funny. I wanted to do exactly what I'm doing. That's what I'm saying. I wanted to just be funny

and not work a job. I didn't want to go to a place every day that I didn't want to be. Yeah, I mean, look, look, I'm not saying, oh, people will say, well, yeah, if somebody was like tomorrow, Jay, we have a three-picture dear with you,

It's not like you'd say no. I wouldn't say no to that. I'd be happy about doing that stuff. And yes, if that type of fame came, I guess I would deal with it. But I'm not any less happier than I would be there than I am right here. No. As long as I said, I'm not struggling at all financially is the only thing that would make me, like, worry. The fact that I can order Starbucks and not think about it, like just...

That's a win. I know what you mean. The fact that, like, we're walking back to the car and I go, Christine, you want to use my app? and just hand her my phone and she can order whatever she wants and I don't even think about it makes me, I made it I fucking made it.

Oh yeah, there it is. Yeah, this league of super pets. Yeah, I was just like, God damn, it's fucking amazing. Yeah. Apps and a main course at Oceana. No problem for you. Not at all.

Not for me. Yeah. Well, let's take you guys to Del Friscoes. We don't treat you like fucking bitches. You order whatever you want, bro. If it says MP, I want you to get it. I don't go to the place that's convenient to my train stop.

I know Jacob wore that all. night um but so yeah so there was that can't go like to the video night i just wanted to kind of address because it's it was interesting to listen to it because i'm like is he just having everything like a smidge off of everything to say i hate him right now to go he goes i don't know if he hates him still maybe he's changed but i didn't get that energy at the roast the energy at the roast was i was fucking terrified my mind was like no i said all i heard about Shane's intro of me was jay ocherson Jay O'Kerson.

I knew the second time he said it was like me, stand up and walk. And it was it. It was like, walk. I'm like, look again at where the teleprompters are. I was like, I go,

do I say this John Stamos thing? I've been thinking about this John Stamos thing for a minute. Do I say John Stamos? I mean, that's it. You almost left the party to go back to your room out of like anxiety.

I did. Well, you went back in. But he doesn't understand that all those He doesn't understand that going to that party going to the actual event, all the stuff you had, walking the red carpet is, it's not, it's not like you do it all the time.

To do it, it's like the anxiety on that is astronomical. And to play it off like it's not bothering you is fucking great. And like I said, the thing that impressed me the most about you is that I was nervous that you weren't going to be you. Like your nerve was going to take over when you were delivering it. Yeah. And the fact that you did, you were 100%, the way you deliver stuff, your timing, your slowness, your eye movements, the way you said something and looked at the confidence you had at the moment when you're supposed to have it was off the charge to me.

It was off the charge. I literally looked at Donner. I was like, he fucking did it. He did it. And that you wrote the stuff yourself. It was so amazing. And it just bug, this shit bugs me, man. I know.

But so play it because it's one. He still haze Kevin He hates Kevin. Oh, pause it. So that's another thing. He goes, I think he took the opportunities. I should make this clear. I think he took it as an opportunity, whatever.

He goes, it was a major opportunity given me by Kev. They fucking asked me to do it. And again, I was the first person booked. I was the first person. Netflix told me when they called me and I know Robbie, if he was lying to me, that'd be weird.

He said I was the first person booked. And they brought it to Kev as an idea. And Kev was like, absolutely. Let's do it. So he's like, I think he did it to, what do you say? I think he did it more for the opportunity

rather than to honor Kiv. Well, yeah, I don't know if I put it in my mind. I was like, I'm going to go honor Kiv. I mean, the event is honoring Kiv. And I went up there, and I think one of the only people, besides Chelsea, weirdly, who said, like, he saved her one day by sending her a plane or something. But, uh, that told a story.

A lead a shit to say. But I told a story, I mean, I told a story that was like of Kevin helping me huge at a time where I needed. It was actually a pretty heartfelt story. So that's an interesting thing to be like the energy wasn't there. I go, I told a thing. Naeem attacked Dave Chappelle's wife. And Dave Chappelle wasn't a part of the thing at all.

So what I think is interesting are calling it the opportunity thing. This is what I will call Naeem out on. This is not a thing. I'm not starting to beef with you, Naim. You want to try to glom on to something you can. But like, I thought everyone did fucking great at the roast. We all had a fucking good time, but this is like a weird... I went and peaked at his followers,

and he's been opening for the biggest comedian in the fucking globe for years. And he had 85,000 followers on Instagram. Now, is that the mark of everything in the world? Absolutely not. But it made me feel like, just use the word opportunity was interesting. Because I've taken the opportunity from the roast to be like, hopefully this sells more tickets, because I did something a little more visible

and people maybe get curious to come see. me perform. The money was nice, obviously. I'll get insurance from it. Do you know what I mean? There's things, but everything I've done... $400,000 is a lot of money. I've been asked, I was asked by several podcasts and shows.

Christine's face just told me it wasn't that. No. I've been asked by many, many podcasts, many shows to come on and talk about it. If they want to, like, you know, anything about the Chelsea stuff. And I have my own platform, so I don't really need to do that. But nor do I do that. I've the opportunity of it is like I hope it does just yeah I hope everything moves forward this seems like somebody who was doing something for an opportunity and it seems like he didn't like

the reaction at God as far as like followers or ticket sales or whatever it is so he's the only person I've seen the only person I've seen on this talk about he talked to TMZ he did a whole TMZ thing at the airport where he stopped and had like a 20 minute conversation with them uh who does that and then he went on the breakfast club thing and made the whole thing about the white writers brought that all up again and so that and now he's doing this so I think he's like clamoring to try to like get the most out of this moment and I'm not going to give it to you with an argument night like just no argument to be had there it's like I'm doing fine yeah and I wish you all the best in the world do but to say something

that's so out of school like that is irresponsible so if you're looking for a problem with me I'm not giving it to you but what it led to which was great in its own regard was when I texted kev last night I was like hey what is this about is this someone you feel or is this something and he was like, you text me back, he's like, naheem's being an idiot, blah, blah. Then he FaceTime called me today, Kevin. Was he standing on a box? Well, no. I guess he was chest-time.

Kev FaceTime me, and we were talking, and he was kind of going back, talking about this and stuff. And he was like, yeah, I don't know what the fuck he's doing. And we had a real, a good call. There was a couple funny things that happened in it. One was towards the end of it, I was like, uh, towards the end of it. I was like, uh, towards the thing. I go, he said something, he goes, yeah, man, just give me two seconds. And I was like, is that ludicrous?

And he went, yeah. And I go, where are you? And then he goes, you know, he says where he's at, whatever islands. I don't know if he's announcing it, but he flips the camera around. And this is just a 12 serving dining room table on the edge of a yacht looking out over a sea with like things over there. And I'm like, oh, well, this call must be costing you a fortune. Yeah, I think he was talking to me there.

I was like, I was like, he's a ludicrous. They're on vacation. No, no, I knew. I've seen the same exact video. I'm saying, but I didn't, I thought in my mind, he could have been home by now. So when he, when he's just talked off camera, I just made a joke, I was like, is that ludicrous? And he goes, yeah. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, that's literally almost a shot he shouldn't, but there was like a dining room table there.

It's bigger than my house. Yeah, dude, he's living the life. He's doing great. Can I tell you what bothers me? I'm sorry, are you done? No, but good. What bothers me the most about? this is that I had his number where I could text him,

he would text me back, and I blew that opportunity, which is an opportunity for me, to connect you two back together. Yeah. And now- Do you want me to give you his new number? I do. I will. Okay, thanks.

Tell him he gave it to you, though. I feel like, you know what I mean? Like I really just threw my, whatever connection I had with Kev where he would actually, text me back. I gave that, I threw that in the fire to connect you guys again. Now, whatever opportunity, maybe they would ask me to be on the roast. Maybe. Maybe I would be in this position right now. It's very possible. But I don't, I actually called his, and after you said you facetimed him today, to me, I called that number and I heard, do-do-oo-oo-ee. The number you have.

No, it's a newbie. It's even new from when you got it for me the first time. I would like the number again, and I'll tell him, Patrice's mom gave it to me. And I will text him and go, hey, we good? We're good, right? We're still cool, right? I'm not Naim, right? Yeah, so I think, honest, my take on that whole thing is that he's trying to make an opportunity. Almost, you know, what Shane said about Chelsea Handler so eloquently.

Like, we're all happy for it. I am. Naim, work it out of you want to work it. But, I mean, it was just, I wanted to clear the air on that because I'm like, that's just a weird thing to say. It was a weird thing to put out there to go, like, he still hates kids. And then to say, like, fake, like, false things. Well, he said good things about you before on something. I forget what it was.

He didn't say good things. He just said that we both wrote our own stuff. Which is a good thing. Yeah, for sure. But like the one thing that I liked about his set and your set is that it was you guys are friends with them. Yeah. And you guys wrote your stuff. And it was really funny.

It was kind of the way a roast and the way I see it. Sure. The best part of a roast is when people have their own things and personal stories and they're funny. And you had nothing but nice things to say about him. What's so say? If you're going sense-making on. the sense of how you would book a roast at a local comedy club with your friends.

Me, Naim, The Rock, you know, they've worked together at length. I guess Tiana Taylor and him are friends. You know, there's people that made sense in there. But Tony Hinchcliff and Shane almost wouldn't make sense in that regard. But that's not how the roast work. Right. It works where it's like you find connections to make people,

these people who know each other, and you do the best roast. Because you're making a show. You're not doing it for like an in-house. We're all going to have laughs. they're doing a multi-million dollar operation. So, like, it was interesting. But, yeah, I guess to take the shot at me,

maybe I'll take some, like, I'll take it as a bit of a, like, oh, maybe that was, like, a nice thing in the sense of, like, Equality can, like, maybe pull off of, like, my following a bit. But it might be a thing, too, where, you know, like, we, like, I've, maybe compliment.

Like, he, I've said stuff about Kev joking around on this show, you know what I mean? Um, I've said stuff to his face. and he said stuff to me. But like, like I, like I, the last thing I remember is playing dice at the cellar with Kev, and then he became this, right? Sure.

That's like weird. Like, that's crazy. Like, we're playing dice at two in the morning on a table, and then all of a sudden he's doing a movie with a rock. Yeah. And I've seen that before. I've seen it with Billy. I've seen it with Dane.

I've seen it with Louis. You know, Louis was, you know, just a writer when I met him, riding at 10 speed in the West Village, the sweaty redhead and then all of a sudden he's you know who he is but like our group of people have never we've always wanted you know we always want that for each other we want that type of success and we've never had you've never had that thing but the thing that he might be seeing is that maybe he heard you know when guys like that who aren't in that they're not in the cellar or that new york thing our new york club that we created i really it's like the mob like we there's a

certain codes, certain things we go by. You know what I mean? We fuck with each other. We really don't fuck with people we don't like. We fuck with people we love. Right. And if you hear something outside of that, maybe you took that and were like, oh, he said this shit about him, blah, blah, blah. You're in this other thing where you guys are all behind Kev. You guys probably don't bust his balls. You probably don't do the shit that Kev would do or you would do. You wouldn't kick his luggage over in an airport. You know, maybe I should have been like, oh, my God, Kev, how are you?

I mean, but, you know, I mean, Kev walked into Opie and Anthony one day and looked at me and went, Jesus Christ, Bobby, you look like shit and handed me $1,000. And I left. I went home. I just gave it to dawn. I go, hey, I got $1,000. How? Little Kev gave me a guy.

I'm looking like shit. I left because I thought he'd asked for it back. And I, you know what I mean? At that time, I needed it. You know what I mean? But also, there's something to be said for the idea of, to be like, I hate Kev and he knows I hate Kev. The strange thing about that is take my own interests out. of it completely it's undeniably makes me more interesting of a human being that part of my

life and I could say like why would I not want to be friends or friendly with arguably one of the most famous people in the fucking world you know what I mean like also an original an original friend in comedy what's I'm saying but we also started together so it's like there if there's no beef what would be the point of me it's like to me it's much more interesting to go it's like oh yeah me and camp out these great stories together we did all this stuff it's like oh yeah when I see him it's always love but we don't talk that much. And like so I don't know why like I said just almost on a sense level.

Like why would I do that? But you wouldn't be able to be part of his world anymore because you have your own world. You have your own, you have your own universe that you're in. You wouldn't be able to be part of his universe. It's just wouldn't. No, it wouldn't work at all.

It wouldn't work. In the time that maybe it would have, I could have, but I never like really begrudged him that. And I said I saw, that's the thing I was going to say I saw right away. It was like when Kev was kind of having people open for him stuff And I don't know if I don't think the plastic cup boys do this at all, but I'm saying there was something in the beginning of like a little more cane with that. And it was almost in our friendship together. It wasn't that. It's like Kev always had a couple bucks in his pocket.

You know what I mean? Even when we were all broke, he had a couple bucks in his pocket. So it was like same thing. It would not that he was bitching me around because he wasn't. But it was just kind of like, well, Jay, you drive. And then I'll get the gas and tolls because you're driving. And I'm like, well, I need you to pay the gas and toll. So I'm going to drive. You know what I mean? So it's like, I. I it would appear I'm chauffeuring him a lot you know what I mean or something like that but I didn't have any like anger towards it we were all broke in my mind and we were all nothing yeah in this business so we were all figuring out but I never had a yeah as a which a whizzo show for me around a few times sure that's part of the thing of being young comic it's just funny when someone else is a young comic too and they have enough money more than you to just be like show for me around I know we're doing the same show and I know we're both the new jacks on the show doing new jack spots Finding a young comic with a car was like gold. Huge. But I was like driving, so even when I'd do, I would end up bringing people, I'd have people open for me and I drive them. I still do that. We got to take a break because I got another video of complaining Bobby that I'd like to show you.

This one might hit you a little more in the guts than this one even. Ooh, I hope it does. Bobby Kelly's going to be a governor's Levittown this weekend. If he doesn't pop a stitch after this video, I show him. One show Friday, one show Saturday. One and one. Friday and Saturday, and then the Comedy Mothership in Austin, July 3rd to the 5th.

After that, he'll be in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, July 25th, one, night, two shows. Saratoga Springs and Brooklyn, New York on deck after that. For tickets and all tour dates, go to Punch Up.org slash Robert Kelly and make sure you catch him every Tuesday, 7 p.m. The Fat Black Pussy Kett Lounge at the Comedy Cellar. And also, why not go to his YouTube?

Subscribe to that shit. Robert Kelly Comedy. Big J.O. Kishon's going to be at Helium Comedy Club in Buffalo this weekend, June 19th of the 20th, After that, the Comedy Zone in Harrisburg, PA, July 10th through the 12th. After that, he's going to be in Winnipeg, Richmond, Long Island for tickets and tour dates. BigJ Comedy.com and YouTube.com slash at BigJ. O'Kerson.

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