The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Noble Poutine
Episode Date: July 6, 2026Marilyn Manson's lawsuits are returning and so are the documentaries made on the musician. Jay does not want to believe Manson is guilty because he has been a huge fan of his music for so long. Jay ...educates Bob on the allegations made by the actress ex-girlfriend and Marilyn's career decline. | The Bonfire crew plans to go to the Manson/Rob Zombie concert this summer and everyone must wear evil costumes. Christine insists that she can do everyone's eye makeup but Jay doubts her skills. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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And now, The Bonfire with Big J. O'Kerson and Robert Kelly.
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All right.
There's one line in this song that I've never got, but I just say it.
And I know it's not the line.
When he goes, she's a noble poutine.
What is?
that line?
She's a noble patine.
I don't know what it is.
You got him up?
Second verse.
What could it be? What do you think it is?
She's a nobipatine.
Play it back a little bit.
Before you tell them what it is, don't tell them what it is first.
Let's see if we can figure it out.
Cowbell, cowbell. More cowbell.
More cowbell.
Mom, bum, bum, bump, you.
Right here.
She keeps her motor.
are clean.
And right here.
Leave me you.
Right here.
I don't know what it is.
I always say noble patine,
but I don't know what that means.
A noble putteen?
That means like French fries with gravy and cheese for royals.
Yeah, what is it?
Noble putteen.
What do you tell you?
She's a, not yet.
Not yet.
She's a, let me hear it again.
Does anybody have a guess?
I'm going to go with movable teen.
I'm move.
Leave me you.
What do you think, Lou?
You know it now, Lou.
I don't know it.
I don't know it. I think Noble's in there.
Noble putteen.
You can tell us.
She's a number 13.
Whoa.
Go back.
But not like she's 13, like she's number 13, like on a scale of 1 to 10.
She's 13.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
She's a noble 13.
A noble 13.
Leave me you.
I hear it now.
I hear it now.
Sucks, though.
It does suck.
A number 13.
I'd rather her be a noble putteen.
Yeah, what's you?
Fucking, is that her...
High-end poutine.
Yeah, is that her...
I like more...
I like, I like, I like, Poutine more than I like the number 13.
A noble poutine is cooler, right?
Yeah, sure.
She's a noble poutine.
Maybe they use, like, better than cheese curds, like something else.
It's noble pudding.
Yeah, a number 13.
She's a number 13.
She's a number 13.
She's a pig.
She is a pig, I guess.
I'm going to say this.
Well, whoever the girl this was about is definitely a pig now.
I'm going to say it was actually a young girl.
I'm not going to say it's a one to ten.
Why would you go to 13?
She's a number?
Do you know, I got to find this this weekend maybe or something.
Apparently there's a Channel 4, I guess, is the UK.
Yeah.
Some TV documentary produced for them called Marilyn Manson Unmasked
that like goes into the stuff, you know, it's all coming back up again.
all the
lawsuits and stuff
were kind of recirculating again
and they're coming back up
I thought they were dismissed
a lot of them were but now
look it up there's stuff going on still
what happened
refresh my memory
well he was accused by Evan Rachel Wood
of like being really like violent
and all kind of stuff with them
like she was like that he was like violent and abusive
and shit with her
and in a lot of ways
and then a bunch of other girls
apparently
came forward, but they were all reached out to by her.
Every other girl, it seemed like in the thing, like, took it back.
And was like, yeah, he didn't do anything freaky.
Or not didn't even do anything freaky, but, like, he didn't do anything we didn't want him to do.
He's not, like, a rapist or anything like that.
Wow.
And then it all went away.
But now, yeah, then his ex-assistant is making a sexual thing now.
Well, I don't think they're going to talk about the child rape.
Yeah, probably not.
I mean, he does have a...
He does have the look that goes with all these accusations.
He looks great again, though.
So in my mind, he's innocent.
I just, I'm like, imagine being, like, imagine dating Marilyn Manson.
Like, I'm sure that's not, like, an awesome relationship.
A couple times a year.
That's pretty awesome.
It's probably awesome.
Like, maybe it's awesome in the beginning when you're like, wow, it's Marilyn Manson.
The first night, one time in the middle, and then when you get the fuck out, it's awesome.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe lose the possessed eye contact.
and it'll help you out.
Oh, so here's what's kind of happening.
So the big, the documentary itself was set to...
Jacob had a dud.
I thought it was really good.
All right.
He had a hot dud.
Saying at this point, clean up your look.
We got it.
He did clean up his look, though.
He was a big fat, he got fat and weird and, like, really awful looking for a while.
Now he looks like he looked when he was, like, 30.
You know what I mean?
So it's like he looks exactly like Merrimands is supposed to look now.
That's not the issue.
here this is a he looked way worse a little bit ago and more like a creep I'd say about like
five six years ago yeah he did look like he directed like cartoon horror movies yeah he was
terrible for a while well he didn't change his look he ballooned into it well he got fat and still
says we lost all the weight yeah he's now like in shape hey Jacob artists do that yeah
sometimes they balloon up yeah we balloon up into a art it's called yo-yoing for stress yeah
of a career a difficult career um so
I got, Jesus, that's not what people need to hear.
But I guess what she was trying to do with that document,
because it was called, I never understood that documentary was so boring.
It was called Phoenix Rising, and it's something about a law.
That's something about a law, Phoenix something law.
It's like from the ashes, I guess is the idea that it's going to make older sexual assault claims.
You'll have like more.
She was trying to get no statute of limitations,
but it looks like the California law is like it can come up.
It can revive the case because of it.
law is called Phoenix Rising Law?
I don't know what they ended up calling the law,
but that's what the documentary Evan Rachel Wood made.
Oh, okay.
About Marilyn Manson.
Be a great name for a law.
It's, I think it's right there.
It's right there.
It's right there. A.B. 250. That's not as good.
That sucks.
Phoenix Rising Law is pretty cool.
That was called Phoenix Rising. Was the name of the documentary?
I'm trying to find a law.
But is the name of a documentary? It'll tell you in the recap of that.
So if you get,
Wait a minute.
So if the law you get accused of something and don't get prosecuted on it,
they can just keep bringing it up forever and ever.
They can give something, right?
No, statute of limitations just means that if you didn't report it for like,
maybe before, I don't know what it was,
but if you didn't report it for five years,
if you report it six years later, they'd go.
You have five years to report it.
I think it's getting more time for that.
I think she's looking for an end to any statute of limitations on sex crimes.
I would say that it should be three days.
you have three days
to report it
and after that
the baby's yours
yeah you're keeping
and we're keeping it
and we're gonna love it
oh she looks like she
has a lot of stuff
on a lot of people this woman
she's got
she's got eyes of
I know what you did
you did something
you did something
you did something
whatever he did
whatever he did
he picked the wrong chick
to fucking do it too
yeah that's the girl who
you know
it's frightening
he did some
Yeah.
When she got out, whatever is it made her upset when she left, I mean, she was like,
by the way, I mean, again, she says now, like, the one that's that freaks me out a little bit
is because I've, the music video where it's like him and her fucking in the beginning of it,
she says he actually started fucking her and she didn't know he was going to do that,
even though they were a couple, like in front of the people and like, and she hated it and like whatever.
But like, again, it's a music video so they didn't use that part.
I'm sure if that actually happens.
But at some point, if someone started.
to really fucking you on set can't you say stop what can you say stop i i don't want to
no i'm doing what i would do if you said what i can't hear you keep going you said the music's too
loud keep going you said bury my cock in your mouth no i don't like it oh you want more you
love it you don't like it you love it um oh there it is the phoenix act 2.0 oh that's
the name extends the time limit to five years jeez
Jesus, what was it?
Three days.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
It's, because, you know, the thing is, is it's like, you mean 30 years old and be like,
oh, maybe that 25 rule that was fucking me when I was 15 was a predator.
But you might not feel that way when you're 20.
Someone had a real thing there.
Did you just remember something?
Did you see your fucking zone of her eyes out there?
She had a lot of details in that sentence.
Oh, no, that was personal, I believe, but it was still like.
Oh, maybe that was bad.
You know, it's like you don't realize it in the same.
same way when you're young. You realize that when you get older and you see 15 year olds.
Right, but don't you chalk that up as experience at some point? I do, but I mean, I get wanting to
be like, wow, that guy, is he doing it to other girls? Like, that's the kind of thing about these
predators is you go, okay, you did it to me. I probably wasn't the only person. Right, right, right,
I agree. You know, so it's like you want to stop them from continuing. You're a predator.
And I still pray. You grew up, Christine, right into a house in Jersey. I pray still. I'm out there
praying.
You grew him doing a fucking
palopper in the backyard in a really
good place.
So I thought they were actually extending it like
20 years at the point because of
that. 20 years is nuts.
It's not though, I don't think.
Well, you could be fucking
some 60 year old woman can be like,
he finger fucked me and I
didn't like it. If you're a six year old woman,
you're like that 70 year old man
touch, I don't know, it's crazy. You know, you're like,
well, was he raping kids?
Like, if he's raping kids, you should probably go to jail even if he's
70. Yeah, kids.
I mean, when you say the word kids, I'm with you.
Yeah.
But if, you know, if you're in a relationship.
How about bad kids?
Oh, I mean, how bad?
Bad enough to rape.
How bad?
Like, rapably bad.
I think they should extend it more.
But again, it's like, extend it.
But the problem is extend it forever, I'd say.
But you've got to be able to, like, bring some proof to, you know, I mean, the problem
is if you wait five years.
10 years, two years, maybe.
What's the evidence?
But what happens to the person when they do bring it up
and they find out it is bullshit
and she got to those people and it is a bunch of fabricated shit?
Nothing happens to them, right?
That has to go civil.
No, listen, if someone didn't do it,
if they're getting falsely accused, it fucking sucks
and it ties up their life, you should be able to exactly,
yeah, like sue them back or counter sue or something.
But I mean, like...
You can't undamage the career.
You know, your career, you're known as a guy.
this is still going to be people that think you did it even if you didn't do it.
Yeah, for sure.
Just like there's people that think Michael Jackson didn't molest kids.
Well, that's why I said when people get, you know, when the guys get, you know, comics get called Nazis.
I'm like, you can't get like uncalled a Nazi.
You either just have to shut up about it or defend it.
Or join the party.
Like, great, now I'm defending myself against being a Nazi.
He goes, or now I've got to join the party flat out.
I go, hey, guys, listen, I thought it was impossible, but apparently I'm one of you.
They go, aren't you Jewish?
I go, that's what I told them.
There's also, you have to see.
But I hate myself.
There's men that slept with girls that were underage that would, I mean, defend to their life that they didn't if they were caught later in life too.
You know, it's like, what, 35-year-old man that was, or 50-year-old man that was fucking a young girl.
And that comes up.
You remember.
You remember that wrong.
They're going to go, I absolutely never did that because it will ruin their life.
So it's like, it's.
Christine?
I think you're ready to face your attacker.
Yeah, it's really coming out real.
Isn't it?
I wasn't attacked.
She was just loose.
My God.
I was just a fat girl that was like really excited a guy wanted to have sex with me.
I was like, oh my God, I'm pretty.
What's with his lawsuit against her?
Is there anything about that?
It says he began a defamation lawsuit.
This is an old.
article this is when the law took place this is 2022 so I imagine it was just what's going on with
it now well apparently it's five years there's stuff going on now yeah this is the video she's in
oh here's I have the resurface stuff in the beginning of that video though they won't be on
YouTube well no it's not heart-shaped glasses it's the beginning of it's the beginning of the video
is the beginning of like four rusted horses it starts with heart-shaped it's hard-shaped glasses
is the song for the video the beginning of that video starts with evidence
And it's them too fucking, but he says it started over.
But you can only find it, you have to find it off YouTube.
They've taken the beginning of it out.
So in the video, can you, you can't?
It just looks like acting.
It looks like acting.
Yeah.
But it's fucking great.
The song playing is great.
Yeah.
Turn off the lights gets jerkable, maybe.
Really?
For you, you old creep.
But it's online somewhere.
You know I like a story.
I know, you do like a story.
I do like a story.
And now that you know, he may have put his, plopped his wangadang in her while everyone was watching.
But I think she like, show.
He showed up to his house when she was 18,
with, you know, licking a lollipop, like, I'm ready.
So it's a real change in pace of what she's done.
It's not available on like daily motion even now,
maybe since she said it was sex.
Because it's evidence.
It's not.
No, the song's called Evidence.
How funny is it?
Yeah, it's a really sexy song too.
Yeah, it's a good song.
Is this it?
No, this is Heart-shaped glasses.
This is the video she's in.
But she's in it and they like, they're all lovey-dovey.
I mean, you know,
I think I have it.
Yeah, it exists.
I've seen it.
But it's like, I'm in like a foreign website.
Yeah, yeah.
Here it is.
So this is them in his Dracula Castle?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, so apparently you started actually fucking her here.
Turn the lights off so Bobby can see it.
Yeah.
Turn it off off so I can masturbate to this.
And then the little ones also.
Yeah.
Jacob, can you get me the baby wipes real quick?
Absolutely.
All right.
So she's getting naked.
He's taking her bra off.
They're getting it in.
They're rolling around.
They're in the smush room in fairness.
It's not,
you can't see that they're fucking.
No.
I'm saying it doesn't blow my mind.
But they're really,
they're really kissing.
I mean, oh,
oh, you can see that.
That looks like they're fucking.
They're banging.
You can tell that's real.
I've never heard.
Well, she definitely performed.
At the time, she was performing.
It's funny because he's choking her in the video.
And that deep throat kissing, she's on top.
Now, if you're on top, is that considered?
Like, if a guy's on top of you and he sticks it in,
but if you're on top of him, don't you have to put it in?
Bobby?
What?
You're not going to get a fucking subpoena to court.
You're going to be a character with us from Marilyn Manson.
I'm just adding.
She rode him.
Yeah, she's when you...
You turn it all back off.
You can't...
Aren't you...
I'm just asking, Christine, I don't know this.
but aren't you, no, leave the lights out.
I got to, hang on one second.
Okay, go ahead.
If you're on top and it's in,
aren't you to blame too?
Yeah, it's your fault.
I mean, if you're 15?
Is she 15 in the video?
No, she's 18.
Oh, God.
No, I don't know how she was in the video.
I don't think she's saying this was rape at all.
She's just saying, like, I was fucking on camera.
I was uncomfortable.
I didn't want to stop.
She's young.
She didn't have like.
She says he just put it in when they were supposed to be faking it.
Yeah.
But my point is you don't have to.
leave it in.
She could have stopped maybe, yeah.
If someone put something in you...
The whole story might be completely fictitious.
Yeah, and then you don't definitely have to go on top
and then ride it.
No one knows the order of this.
Again, she's either...
A great actress.
She might be exposing a fucking monster, unfortunately.
Or, I mean, good, I guess if she is.
Or she's like, she could also be a crackpot
who's fucking doing a bunch of shit.
I mean, like...
But anyway...
boyfriend and probably fucked her up a bit.
Maybe. But there's a thing, it doesn't matter.
There's a thing, I'm curious to see.
So this channel 4 thing made a thing called Marilyn Manson unmasked.
I don't know, maybe my VPN will help me be able to get it or something.
Because I have to find like an illegal website to watch it on or something because it's, I want to watch it.
It's like three or four parts, but it's like more current.
And it's got documentaries with her again kind of after all this and after the lawsuit and other girls kind of coming forward.
So I'm curious to see it.
But they were like, this is the one that might bury him.
Oh, yeah, it's on Paramount Plus, but we can't access it.
It's not Paramount Plus here.
Yeah.
I mean, this video looks like they're having sex.
Oh, yeah.
It's a nice penis.
I know, Jacob, but that doesn't matter.
That's nice or not.
They look like they're definitely real fucking.
Like a video when people are doing stuff, you can tell it's fake.
Yeah.
I mean, they're deep kiss in, biting each other's teeth.
It looks like they're into it, both of them.
Yeah, he's choking her.
She's on top
I mean if we're going by the video
I'd have to be like
Looks like she's into it pretty good
That's what I'm saying
But you know
I'm sure there's some cutting room floor
I was all
This is also it's like
They're shooting a music video
Where they're supposed to be having a sex scene
So it's like she was down to do all this
And she's also an actress
Keep in mind
Oh she's an actress
Yeah
She's a goddamn good one
Oh you know
She was in
I mean did you watch
I'm surprised
You didn't watch
What the fuck was a show
She was like huge
West World
West World
No
Was it good
Is it good?
Is that that
The one with a future end.
Her robot, yeah.
Yeah, it's Robot Land.
Oh, that's her.
One season.
And then she was in a, one season was good.
And then she was in, and then she was in,
Oh, she's great.
Her big thing was when she was young.
She was that movie 13 that was fucked up.
Well, she was also in practical magic, which was big.
Oh, she's a legit actress.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought it was just a regular home.
Oh, she's an actress.
She plays Mickey, she plays Mickey Works daughter in The Wrestler.
Yeah, she's been,
Yeah, she's got like her own thing going on.
She's not, you know, she's not some like whore that like just got wrapped up.
Oh, I believe her then.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Like everyone else dropped the thing and said that like she coerced them to to like come out.
You know why I believe her?
Because this will affect her career too.
You know what I mean?
Because Johnny Depp's situation that he was in, she did all that stuff.
And it fucked her career when they proved her kind of lying.
And she was kind of wrong.
And he was in the right.
It fucked her career.
And if you're an actress and you're coming out with this,
you've got to know that this is going to affect her too.
What is she doing?
She has anything coming out?
Let me see.
What are you suggesting that maybe she needs some,
she's clout-chaise it a little bit?
The timing of that wouldn't seem right
because I don't know how far over Westworld was,
and I'm sure after that, a show that we ran for a few seasons,
she would get another offer for some.
So I don't think she's an out-of-work actress or anything.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
Why do it if it's not real?
That's the whole beginning of, like, believe every,
believe all women, you're like, yeah.
Wouldn't you love that if every time a woman said that, like,
she was like, raped, you're like, oh, my God, I'm sorry,
something like that happened to you and just let's start fixing the problem
or stopping whoever did this?
The fact that it does get become lied about at all is fucking crazy.
So it's like, then you're like, shit, you have to doubt anybody.
Yeah, it hurts women when people lie just to, you know, fuck somebody over.
Yeah, I've heard it all over.
I've heard stories from girls where I'm like, that's not fucking, you know.
I'm like, you think that's what, rape.
is like that's not rape that's like being a drunk she's in 10 up she's in all 10 episodes and then i've
heard stories where i'm like that's so terrifying i can't and i've had a friend of mine was
held at gunpoint raped on her stoop so that's rape that's fucking crazy i can't believe that there's
people in the world i'm willing to tell the story now you don't have to say was your friend anymore
that's how you met i never forgave myself um she's got 10 full she's doing 10 full episode like a full
season of a show is coming out yeah she's got a lot she's got a lot to lose
If this goes somewhere and she gets on the stand
and is proven wrong or she lied or coerced other people,
that's going to affect, nobody's going to want to work with her.
Nobody's going to, no male actor is going to want to be near her.
Wait, go back to her on D.B because she has a music video.
She did music too.
I have to hear how bad that is.
Now the fact that she's trying to jump into music brings me thinking,
man, she's trying to fucking pull a little flammie.
I think they were going to play it right there.
I hope it's so good you love it.
She's a fantastic fellow.
song. Yeah, she has great music, just like Marilyn Manson. It's all about him raping her.
Oh, geez, it's from Frozen 2. Oh, really? Oh, she... Frozen 2 sing. She's a character, probably,
in it. Is this... I mean, if she's a character in Frozen, she's fine. Yeah, she's fine. Money-wise?
I don't think she was ever not fine. I just think it's a weird... She jumped into this lawsuit thing.
She's saying, money-wise. If she was in Frozen, you're set for life. I believe, for sure,
Evan Rachel Wood, believe she... I don't think she believed she's bringing up...
a fictitious thing right does that make sense it's just a matter of like is she loopy or is she
fucking completely righteous and he has some explaining to do because he really said he got his
shit together and i said he seems very like again someone being afraid for their life will be humble
yeah but like it seems like i said he's five years sober he seems like he's trying but he i don't
hear him ever like uh comment ever really much about after since the first thing where he was just like
this is bullshit and I'll show you that.
This feels very much like when somebody gets involved with a cult.
It's like almost like a two-person cult.
It's like the stuff she's accusing him of is almost like Keith Reneery style.
Like what was that group?
You know, it's like brainwashing, sleep deprivation.
Like he actually had no control over her, but she feels like he had control over her.
I can't.
It's all really fucked up, but I don't think it didn't happen.
Well, I think he was also, I said, a major drug addict.
Yeah.
Like alcoholic for a long time.
He's a fucking mad.
It's like you're going to treat your partner like shit.
Well, don't forget too, his ego was out of control at that time.
Well, at that point is probably even a weirder place.
Ego may have been out of control and also career is fucking dwindling.
Was it dwindling then?
Oh, yeah.
He was the biggest thing in the world from 97 to like probably 2006 maybe even.
He was like humongous.
He was so huge.
I met him at the L.A. studio.
He was lovely.
He didn't try to rape you?
No, he was coming out of an interview.
I said, hey, Marilyn, you killed in the Sons of Anarchy.
And he said, I did kill in Sons of Anarchy.
2006 to 2010.
Is when they were together?
Yeah.
Four years, yeah.
And by the way, maybe he's a raging piece of shit.
He's got himself clean now, but that doesn't mean anything.
No, that doesn't mean anything.
Theoretically.
He probably got clean because he did all that crazy shit.
Oh, that's when he did it.
ever again.
Usually people do crazy shit on the
downward spiral because they can't deal
with the coming down off the mountain.
That's what I'm saying. I think he was like, this guy
will never have a hit song again.
He's not going to get no
song he'll put out. He knows. Now,
he's an age he knows that. He's got
an album coming out in a couple weeks and it's just like
it's out, go listen to it, I'll tour.
You know what I mean? But there's no, like,
he doesn't expect now, but that's still a time where he's like,
he puts out an album and can't believe his last two albums are
like this isn't on the charts
there's no there's no song being picked for radio
and there's no song but you know what I mean
that was over and no one
and now his tours are going to be at like
the well Mont Theater and Montclair
and where this is the guy that was like you know MSG
and fucking you know one point probably could have done the
like baseball stadiums and shit
and it was kind of short lived
at the end of the day yeah under 10 years
under 10 years yeah yeah she was she was
born September 7th 87 so in 2006
she was 18 19 years old
so it's like I
I mean, if you're just...
Nice.
18-year-old child actress and you're mixed up with this one.
Yeah.
And you're mixed up on the downward spot.
Yeah.
You can, you know, you can feel it.
But it's sex to see, you know, it's like a young girl.
It's like, at the end of the day, it's like she wasn't trapped.
He wasn't holding her hostage.
But it's just like a really young girl in a really fucked up situation.
She thought she could match his evil.
Maybe.
But she said threatening and all kinds of stuff.
So in there.
Yeah, who knows what he, you know.
These are things where it's like probably had videos of her fucking probably threatened to release him.
You know, it's like there are probably like a bunch of little things he did to control her.
Come over here.
I want to give you a kiss with my fists.
If you leave, you want to get fat.
Don't leave.
You're the only thing holding me on to the thing.
thin. I'm gonna eat a wopper and a quarter pound with cheese.
And then he turned 50 something. He was like, I don't need bitches to be thin.
And this is, so Dita Vantis, who was married to him, he said, she said, please note that
the details made public do not match my experience during our seven years together as a couple.
And she said she left because of his drug abuse and infidelity.
Is that when he got fat?
She was with him when he got fat?
No.
No, she, Dita Vontese was way before.
Oh, she was before the, this one.
And Richard would.
She dumped him, he was gone through that.
And then he was with Evan Richard Wood.
And by the way, he was so fucked up from her.
Because here's the other thing, too, the other person who anybody was going to say,
the fact that his ex-girlfriend is Rose McGowan.
If somebody was going to fucking come out and be like,
yo, this guy tortured.
She was like the number one whistleblower on Harvey Weinstein.
She was the Me Too spokesperson for a while.
Huge.
Yeah.
She came out and said, like, I believe these.
She said, he goes, I believe the women.
I'm not going to say they're lying.
I'm not saying, I just telling you I didn't have an experience like that with him.
I mean, she wouldn't wait to jump out and do that.
I think it really is like an easy.
It's like, okay, if he was a wild alcoholic drug addict,
it's like that can do crazy things to a person.
Well, I was going to say,
that's the thing too.
But he was also so fucked up, apparently,
from the D. Devontese, like thing.
Apparently, like, he was fucked up from that breakup
because he made it a big thing.
That he, um, I'm looking at this picture,
Rose McGowan's tits and lose my train of thought.
Yeah, I am too.
I wasn't even hearing what you were saying.
Bitch.
I forgot we were in studio.
Now she has short silver fox hair.
After Zedavantis, though, he could have been a different person when he was divorced and going through the drugs and all that stuff and drinking like that.
He became like an absinth addict.
Yeah.
It's like hallucinogenic alcohol.
You can't even get absinth.
He makes it.
I have a bottle of it.
I have a bottle of it.
I love it.
How do you get from...
I mean, I don't know what it tastes like.
I love having the bottle of it.
How do you get from Rose McGowan with him wearing nothing on the red carpet to...
I do psychic readings and make my own jewelry face.
Oh, her?
Yeah.
Oh, because...
It's Harvey Weinstein.
Harvey Weinstein.
Yeah, I mean, it's a mental snap.
When someone's, like, just not there...
You think all that's still under there, or you think it fell apart?
Her body?
Yeah.
Oh, no, her body just fell apart.
Her body actually wasn't that fucking unreal here.
She just went for it.
It was just crazy that she would address.
She's like a very...
I mean, she has a nice body.
I'm just saying, but she doesn't have, like, an unbelievable ass or anything like that.
It's all, fine.
But nobody did it.
anything. Tits are great, but you're seeing her naked. That was the whole thing. Yeah, it is the whole thing.
Maybe, I'm sure she has a nice vagina. And she seemed like she was fun. Yeah, for a minute.
You know, she was probably in this moment. She's willing to show up naked. She was probably
pretty fun. Yeah, she was fun for a minute. But yeah, she's crazy looking now. What a loopy loop.
But she said Marilyn Manson, she didn't have experience like that. So again, but I think, you know,
he may have been like a different, again, when you become a major addict at that point and you're not
young and handling it and it's kind of sad and they were like i mean we had friends out in
l.A. that told us like they you know the music scene people that were like oh did he just
eats cheeseburgers and lives in an apartment above the fucking liquor store and just fat and does
coke and eats cheeseburgers all day and like how do you fucking eat cheeseburgers and doing coke like those don't
go together it sounds so fun i mean i wish oh my god i don't know what coke feels like so but maybe
you eat more cheeseburgers jay oh yeah faster faster faster
Big or stronger, faster cheeseburgers.
Yeah, it's a weird, you know,
because usually when it's a bunch of girls,
it's a bunch of, you know, fan girls.
And when it's a bunch of fan girls,
it's kind of like, you know, what's up?
You're going to see Marilynnexon finally soon.
When?
We're going to take off whatever that date is in August,
and we're going to go,
we're going to like handheld Zoom pre-tape a show.
Oh, that's great.
From the thing.
I always wanted to see him.
And it's him and Rob Zombie.
Is it going to be, is it going to be, you know, like the cure?
Is there going to be like Mallor, Marronman, Manson?
Is he's going to be awesome?
Is he going to be like back in the day?
He's awesome.
The last show is.
It's going to be great.
I just saw him at Sick New World.
He was fucking fantastic.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he sounds like, it's a day, they have him coming out in the daytime, but it'll be at a night with my show.
Can he come out in the daytime?
Well, will he burn up in the sun?
Is he going to have to wear a sunblock?
He's opening for Rob Zom, not the other way around?
It's probably a flip night to night.
It's probably night to night, flip.
The Freaks on Parade Tour, they're doing it again.
Same thing. It's like they flip-flop.
That's got to be great.
Well, now, again, they're older, so they're not fighting on the tour either.
Last time they did it, too.
It's like, now they're like...
No, but as you said, daytime evil doesn't work.
Oh, well, it's a PNC.
So it's like borderline indoors.
Do you know what I mean?
It's outside but it's inside.
Yeah, but I hope he comes on at dusk.
I don't know what I mean?
I don't see his pale body in Sun-sun-sun.
You won't.
You won't.
Again, it's also a bunch.
It's the who was on that tour, the Who, the Who, H-U.
And, um, fuck, it's someone else that's actually kind of alright.
What is it a Who cover band?
Oh, is it somebody I hate?
Is that a different band?
No, no, it's a different band.
The Who, what are they called?
H-U.
with an umlaught over the U.
I don't know their music at all.
If I see that's who's on it,
I thought Christine's going to bring up the thing, yeah.
Can we show up after them?
There's a list of who else was on it.
Are we showing up just from him and Rob Zombie?
Oh, we should go.
We're taking the day off, so we should go.
Tailgate, kick it.
I don't have to care about watching the who.
Who else are the bands?
An orgy, that's right.
Oh, wow.
Orgy's fun.
What do they do?
How does it feel to treat me like you do?
You just saw Orgy Grammarcy.
I thought I want to take it.
And they go, guilty by desire.
She's nothing more than fiction.
But she dreams in digital, because it's better than nothing.
Are they faking the English accent or are they?
Yes.
Oh, they are?
I'm in.
Put on that, but he really does a full bridge.
She goes, yeah.
What the fuck is happening?
It's not Orgy.
I knew you loved it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Put that pink fingernail down.
Now I know why you're Christina in love together.
She sings those songs to you when she gets home.
Frozen.
But she dreams in digital.
Digit tall.
Because it's better than nothing.
It's my favorite.
Digital.
It seems unreal.
She's dreaming in digital.
I don't know why I love that so much
And then the other one
You can put out the Blue Monday now
Because you know this one
They remade it
It made it almost more popular
Than who was it in New World Order did it at first?
They look very British
Dude you'll get hyped when he comes out into the audience for this
It looks like a bunch of variations of Billy Idol
I'm not gonna lie
I bought in when he came into the audience
I was definitely around him
I was like
A friend of mine was playing bass
In the band opening for them
I do like this song
This is a good song
thought I was mistaken.
So this is going to be a night of fucking chubby people in leather.
Tell me how does it feel?
There's going to be a nut of fat people going, hey, Big Jay, big fan, can you take a picture
of us?
And I'm like, sure.
It's going to be a lot.
I want to let everybody know that when I take a picture of you and Big Jay and I do offer
it and I have no problem, you do get a picture of me too.
Bobby, that's going to be a lot of people that are recognizing both of us, but that is,
I mean, going to Maryland Manson, Ron.
Rob Zombie. It's going to be...
A lot. It's going to be my thing.
I might actually get a fake Mohawk.
Maybe. You should.
Just so they'll think of somebody else.
Just, yeah.
Yeah, like, Jamar.
I'll be like, I'll go, this is Bobby.
He's my tech.
I'm going to dress evil.
Are you?
We should all dress a little evil.
We should all dress a little evil.
Guyliner.
I'm going to dress a little evil.
Can we all put on guyliner?
Oh, please.
Let's all put on guyliner.
Listen, first of all, if we're going to put
guy liner on, I'm doing it at the venue.
I'm not asking Don to do it.
She'll leave me.
I'll do the guy liner.
I'll even bring my sharpener so it's sterile.
What if I look fantastic in it?
If I get addicted to it.
Do you wear all the time?
Yeah.
I stop wearing glasses and I just start wearing guyline.
I'm going to put on black lipstick for sure.
What?
I want to do black lipstick.
I can't.
My lips are too juicy.
I might do some smoky eye also.
I want to do black tears and I want to do lip gloss.
I'd love for you to have running mascara.
Yes.
Bobby, we have to have somebody come do this.
There's somebody who knows how to do this good for us.
A real makeup artist person.
What about Christine?
He's not a makeup artist.
Can you?
Can you?
Yeah, what would you do?
How would you do that?
I take it.
She'd actually put it on my eyes and then kick me in the nuts.
Pull it down, so I'd kind of like smudge it down.
It's not how it's supposed to look smudged.
It's supposed to like it's running.
And a makeup person could do that.
This is the gayest conversation ever.
Running makeup looks smudged.
You don't know how to do it.
runny eyeliner, bitch.
Look up a YouTube video.
How do you make eyeliner run down your face for a runny
eyeliner look?
Type all of that.
All you got to do is put it on and then put water on it, let it run.
Yes.
All right, smart ass.
For a runny eyeliner look?
Don't be a fucking twat.
I love that you guys are fighting over an eyeliner application.
I'm pretty sure Christine could do it.
Crying eyeliner tutorial.
Let's see what she does.
She just wipes it down.
Oh, what does she do?
She takes it and she smears it down and she smudges it.
Oh, wet tissue.
Oh, my God.
That's not what you said.
She kind of said that.
You were.
She said smudge it down and then blend it in.
How don't you guys have fun of this concert without me?
No.
I don't want to go now.
No.
I told you exactly how it was.
I don't know why you think I can't do makeup.
You think I'm going to go to a concert with Jacob with eyeliner?
Jay.
You have to be like this.
You're going to look positively evil.
You're going to look evil and beautiful at the same time, Jay.
Sorry.
Jay.
Jay, you're the lead vampire.
We need you.
I'll go.
If they kill you, we all die.
Oh, Bobby, that's a great idea.
I do want to wear fangs.
Yeah, you should.
I forgot.
Evil fangs.
I forgot.
I have my contact lenses.
You have contact lenses?
I could actually do Marilyn Mansonize.
You should.
No, we got to get you new ones.
They expire.
They did?
Yeah.
But they're never opened.
I know, but they still expire.
My fucking Christ.
I'm going to have to have the plant the fasciitis little slippings from my boots
because I have those black high-heel punk boots that I bought at the flea market.
I'm going to wear those, but I'm going to get comfortable soles so I can wear them all night long.
Got out some motherfuckers.
Okay.
It's another girl smudging it down.
Okay.
I'm going to do contact lenses, but you do all that.
I'm going to do smudge tier eyeliner with lip gloss on these juicy lips.
Nice.
And then I'm going to frame my beard in like Tony Stark.
I'm going to wear a black lipstick and maybe something leather on my top.
I can't wait to see DJ lose evil look.
I look great with eyeliner.
Guy liner.
No, but you have to wear an outfit and evil outfit.
I say just chaps.
Well, it's August, so let's not go crazy.
It's going to be hot.
Just chaps.
He can have his little tuss out.
I'll go shirtless.
I'll be in shape by then.
Yeah.
I'm going to do like that.
I'm going to do maybe some like the omegas around my eyes or something.
something Marilyn Antony. I'm going full
fan ship. Jay, Jacob wants to crank both
of us out real quick. I'm going to also do
some tears. Oh, look at that. Oh, look at
her doing it with nothing, her finger at all.
You really are a deplorable son of a bitch.
All right, we got to wrap it up. Just admit, I know
things about hair and makeup. You didn't know what I was
trying to do. All right, guys, can you take this off air, please? We got to go.
We got to go. We're going to be here tomorrow.
We're going to be here tomorrow. I'm at Long Island this weekend,
Governor's. One show and night, I'm going to be a flow helium.
helium, biflo, two shows
a night.
I'm going to be practicing makeup on myself at home.
Christine's going to be solely unraveling in the house with trippy makeup.
We'll get you guys tomorrow.
