The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Phishing For Kids (feat. Andy Fiori)

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

A caller alerts the Bonfire about a troubling incident a member of Phish had in his past. Andy Fiori defends his band!

I'm Big J. Ocarson. And I'm Dan Soder. You can listen to a full two hour long episode of the Bonfire on Series XM or with the SXM app. It's easy. Go to SeriesXM.com slash Bonfire for a special offer. And now the Bonfire with Big J. Ocarson and Dan Soder. Breaking news.

Yeah, Black Lugis gave us during the break here. Caroline's comedy club legendary comedy club in New York City closing January 1st Owner Caroline Hirst told the post you did not renew the lease they're gonna get more for the More for the space. I like it always sounds nefarious to go the tower 50th Street is owned by Kuwaiti Well Fund. But she said that she the landlord, she was quoted as saying my landlord felt they can get a lot more for the space.

So legendary comedy club carolines, which listen, it did move before from the South street, South South street seaport up to Times Square. So it might move somewhere else, you know, that happened sometimes clubs. Well, she says this is hard stabbing for me. I love my staff. I love my comedians. I'm on this something new. So maybe not. But they run New York comedy festival. So I wonder what's going to happen with that. Means David Tellers their last show. David Tellers their last show. Well, he doesn't do a year's eat. 30th. So he'll be right before the final show.

Like their final headliner and then they probably do a New Year's Eve showcase. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm going to tell Arias until he's just hanging out. There's so much as a young comic. Oh, me too. It was one of the first clubs I got into. Um, it is funny though. She goes, it's ever changing talent roster, include Richard Bells or Jerry Seinfeld, Billy

Crystal, John Stewart, Joy Bayhara, Jimmy Fallon, Michael Che. I'm in the middle of all that Michael Che. And then it goes back Robin Williams, Conan O'Brien. Yeah. Michael Che, so in the middle of all that Michael Che, and then it goes back Robin Williams Conan O'Brien Yeah, they Joy Bay are as weird Well, no, I'm just saying no, I think they all make just make sense like there's just chase so out of place just in like Youth and newness Yeah, it's like all 80s and 90s people and then Michael Che

It's literally 80s 90s people. Yeah 80s 90s white people and then Michael Chey. It's literally 80s, 90s people. Yeah, 80s, 90s white, the whitest of white comics. And then Chey, here for him. Like the show everyone's performed there ever. The place had an anything can happen atmosphere that was part of its charm. I don't feel like this case. Did you have an anything can happen there? I don't know.

I never got the headline a week in there. Yeah, but I mean, any time you hung out there, could anything happen? No, it's actually pretty controlled the whole time. Pretty controlled environment for sure. Well, fucking sad news. Sad news in the world of comedy. You never like to see these places go down. Yeah, you don't want to see places. But it's a Times Square comedy club. It's so expensive. One cool thing about that place, though, was to be as a performer just to be performing on Broadway.

I thought I always thought was a cool thing. Dan, didn't you do a new year's performance? That doesn't impress Lou. Lou likes his performance off Broadway. Just off. Just off. Yeah, I did two new year's eaves there. I did I won their I won their goofy tournaments

But they never had lined me So great saying you want a goot. It's funny trivializing the tournament. Oh it meant so much for it It was so much for all the people that's for all the people that lost and it meant so much to them It meant so much to me. It was I won this stupid little contest my genuine feelings of his I'm very bummed out because I I loved Caroline's and I loved working there and they had the best Christmas party in the game for a long time. Their Christmas parties were legendary very fun. I just kind of sucked because I did Gotham because I didn't think I could sell that many tickets years ago like

eight years ago I did Gotham for a weekend. And I think that was held against me when I asked Caroline's about working there. And they were like, well, he doesn't sell tickets. So I don't think so. We had him on a Wednesday and it wasn't that good of a show. And then I'll sell tickets to keep asking me to do it. And then, and then I talk, and then I talked some shit about it. And then at Nate's town hall show Lewis the booker was like I

Was there he's like I didn't say that I didn't say that It's like ain't you hear that? Yeah, and I gave him all the agents that told me that and he was like Whenever you give them the actual truth and they're just like, oh, that's crazy. I don't know how you would say that But yeah, it was a very and they're just like, oh, that's crazy. I don't know how you would say that. But it was a very, Caroline's a wacky history of Caroline's for sure. I've definitely, I've boned in the green room

more than one size thing. I, yeah, man, it was a bummer because I used to do their prom shows. I was, you know, I fucking, I remember seeing you at, you won the competition. I had the booker from my first club I ever worked at the comedy magical happened to me in town for the New York comedy festival This was years ago and he was like who's gonna who do you think is gonna win?

I was like dance soda absolutely gonna take it and you did and it just made me look really cool to him That was fun dude One of my favorite memories of comedy was doing that competition. It was so like New York's fun. It was great. I fucking loved it. And it's sad. I am sad it's closing even though I haven't had a relationship with that club in a long time. But yeah, it's it's a you know, Jay, you said you had a complicated history with it. I didn't have too much of a complicated. It was just like it was one of the first clubs I got into. Yeah

For sure and then Lewis Frano was great. He loved my Philly accent so much when I moved here Yeah, then he did he just used me a lot let me host and ship, but I've had like yeah, I have a lot of weird stories there That's the place where I told you I knew the strip club owner and the bar tender who brought the strippers to Brian Yeah, that was in the front and the stripppers punched an old lady in the front row. Yeah. After talking the entire show. Yeah.

Oh, my God. You just invite vagrants. Yes. When I was 23, a girl came in the bathroom and said she'd take through pussy at me, and then we fucked and she goes, she's, you know, old damn and I'll say, huh? She goes 18 and I was like, well, I mean, it's weird to say afterwards, but I don't think it was illegal. I don't think post not you should ever go do you know how old I am?

45-year-old bitch, I don't know Did she said she was like, oh, think she like said she was older at first, but either way It's like it was still legal, but it's a weird thing like she said it like like like Gotcha, yeah, I think you just said illegal age I will say man like Curtis the waiter and there was a lot of people that worked out that I really fucking liked and they would let me they would let me you know like Sneak in like Ray Goots would let me sneak in to watch Burr and Louis. I was fucking, it was very fun. Coming up and going to Caroline's was awesome.

Me and the Rosa last show ever there. I don't know. That's not sure if it was me and, uh, me and the Rosa would both should all the time with there was a bartender named Louis. Yeah. Who was a wild dude Like older to like a spanic guy. Yeah good bartender is when you could even smoke a Caroline still He was like the first guy ever saw like he always had to light her out for anyone cigarette, you know and Just through the bottles around and he was just a good like good bartender great vibe for it

just through the bottles around and he was just a good like good bartender great vibe for it. But one night like late night we ended up hanging out with these three girls came and hung out and they invited me to Rose and him back to their hotel room and me and Joe I don't know what was going with Joe I was definitely like striking out with the girl I was talking to I think. Yeah. And you know we're just not doing anything and then Louis went in the bathroom with a girl It's like you forget how like his panic he is until he goes he goes I'll eat that Cho Cha mama. I don't give a fuck Like a good memory and the rose would be really just so young me and the rose like We're in over our heads

Dude, I remember doing New Year's with the Rose's on the lineup and there's this guy in this girl that like Comics had talked to in the audience like oh how long he has been dating or whatever and they're like our friends And then I was like wow well and it turns out they drove up from Tampa to just spend New Year's Eve in New York and at Caroline's and we're there and I'm still drinking, the Rosa's still drinking, as the night goes on, the Rosa is working this lady. He's like flirting with her, she's with it, she likes Joe and the guy's getting angry or an angry and Joe's like, I don't know what to do about this guy

and I go, Joe, you know exactly what you're doing. You're hitting on this girl and then one of your friends is gonna have to fight this guy. He was just so mad. He was like watching Joe hit honor and I just remember Lee, I was like, did I'm getting out of here? Fuck this. Good luck. And then the next day he's like, I don't know what I was doing. That girl drove up with that guy. That guy was a psycho. And you're like, yeah, Joe, you just had blinders on because you're going after pussy. You still about Caroline's the legendary Christmasmas parties like every christmas party there was always someone like there was always a a a big scene of somebody being

around like a hunter over a toilet oh my god going up what I want to talk more about those christmas parties but first I want to let you know that I hate Stephen singer yeah those christmas parties were. I remember watching rich boss kick Canter and the fucking ribs at one. Yeah, that's one of the most legendary Christmas party stories. It was crazy Rich Vos for it said as long as I've known Richard so weird that I've known three fights He's been in really kicking up. He's throwing a kick in every one of them damn dude. He's a karate master Rich Vos things legs first which is such an interesting thing for short.

I didn't know Rich Voss had Jean-Claude Van Dambrane. Is this phone called real? Black Lou, line one. It seems, it seems real. He doesn't seem like he's being ridiculous. What is it? He just said it. Steven in Georgia wants to say that he loves DJ Lou,

and he has a crush on him. Steven Singer? I hate Steven Singer. No, but I like Steven this guy. I love this. Steven from Georgia is cool with me. Especially if you're from Georgia. Especially if you love our Lou. Can you guys hear me?

Yeah. We have tickets open to a show. Hey, come on. First off, shout out to Steve. Yeah. Hey. Yup. And Dan, congratulations. Thank Steve. Yeah. Hey. Yup. And Dan, congratulations.

Thank you. Love is real. Rest in peace, Caroline. Rest in RIP, Caroline's. And then Lou, you're exactly about two silks as away from being gay already. If those two had gotten those in you, it would have been over.

And also Pearl, Dan Pearl Jam Eddie veteran knew that I stood for man goo I don't believe a gay man would talk like this really why you are I'm talking you want to talk all like hey mr. sister and with a Lisbon shit that'd be a gay guy you're racist anyways Lou I think you my friends and I have a bet that you would be a super big power bottom. Yeah, I mean away from me. I Don't tell you right now. I think you're right. Steve. I'm gonna tell you right now Being in the room with that bedonk it absolutely has got pushback on it. Oh Yeah, and I bet you guys have to get a special chair for him. No, but it's we're close to it

No, but I'm telling you if you pound into it, dude, it's gonna kick back like a 12 gauge. Yeah, No, but it's we're close to it. No, but I'm telling you, if you pound into it, dude, it's going to kick back like a 12 gauge. Yeah, that's got, his ass has got recoil. He's talking about off Broadway stuff. Just dude, it's okay. Louis, it's okay. Just like come out now. You can go be with your Southern bell down in Georgia, dude.

Maybe you are a guy. Yeah. Hey, Louis, let's get that asshole from an alto to a baritone. You know what I mean? I'll play you like a glue. Oh look at that, dude. Pleasure from a gay guy. Blue. That's got to be top notch. Yeah. Would your girlfriend think it's cheating if you did gay stuff? I think yeah, I think she thinks I'm gay too. Well, DJ Lewis, you've a placeholder just come over to the dark side. Yeah, I mean, if I it's a nice offer if I like cock, I would.

But I get you get about six poppers, you get those two guys from Queens, you get a couple of shelters. If they would have had booze that night, what would have happened? Oh, fucking prison rape. That's what I have here. That's what he calls it. it yeah now he says prison rape what he knows is it would have been a musky good time you ever see shoshank redemption the the sisters got to me uh... you know so much movie trivia to god you're so good you know so much he knows and he knows all the uh... the but fox scenes of movie yeah he actually is like mister skin but for fucking anal rape and movies. I just like Greece and Josh

I'm fucking guys. You just that's all you watch the bed from he goes to bed to compilation rape scenes from sleepers all the history X He goes through all animal factory well Stephen in Georgia if Lou ever does crack open and turn out that he is gay We are going to point i support them and it's gonna happen eventually we all know it and we are the support that your thoughts on just in silver what we have in the line could go over all friends that we think of gay

just in silver just in silver i know about just a can i comment on that record yes all right so the whole himbo stuff that happened like i don't think they're gay but i do think they would be on cocaine well yeah yeah yeah yeah we can but what about uh... what about silver no that's not just over that's what i would i i mean who wouldn't know what

yeah right i mean that he's no j-luke he's no dj-luke no DJ Lou or he's no Jacob. If you put Jacob on the right outfit, I think he would just crush. You're not wrong. Yeah. Jacob. He's right. He's not wrong. But Justin. Yeah, Justin just he kind of tries too hard. Yeah right. Abs. Right. Put a dickhead. No, like it's just in general. He seems like he would try and hard with girls around. Oh, yeah, very possible. Yeah, but as we have those abs, you show them off. It peel off. That is the intrinsic difference between Justin and Josh really is that they both care about their bodies the same, but Justin likes to show it and Josh likes to show it in clothes. But he's not a big like take a shirt off guy Josh is almost like red bear guy He's the thread bear guy. Oh, yeah, he likes it. He likes a shirt that you can almost kind of see through. Yeah

He always says oh go a work. You know, he's like oh, it's Korean roll denim And it's like they're just jeans dude stop calling it. This is octopus denim. It's like, they're just jeans, dude. Stop calling it that. This is octopus denim. It's crazy. You can't find it. This is made out of moldful heads. He lives in a mechanics overall jumpsuit without any shirt underneath or at the live shows. Or underwear.

Yeah. This is weener curl up like a pig tail. It's weird. Steve, thanks so much for the call we'll send Lou down to Georgia when he finally comes to terms with it Can I get a crackle crackle crackle crackle crackle? Look how you feel like maybe not threatens at all You feel loose and ready to accept and push back into a quarter field turned on Well, he's not trying to lure me up to a trap dude. I don't know who did this today, but nobody Lord you Lou

You won the last one you can't make me gay now. Yeah, he's right. It's because you lost the girl you won the fight now I'm straight. Bye by i know you are but i'm just saying nobody though how you know shut up jay you love to take for the i know i've seen you stare at them you know i definitely look at them for sure

i've seen you stare at them for sure i don't even know if you've seen me, but I can't argue that. I will take the chance with Dicks for sure. I'm intrigued by the whole situation blows my mind. We have another call here that says what, I don't think we take the call necessarily, but Chase says we should ask Andy about fish pedophilia accusations. Is that a thing happening? No. Oh no.

Like in the audience perhaps that wouldn't be a mind blow but the band itself. The bands a bunch of petta's? I mean, I mean what child are you going to lure them with that long boring music? Fair point. So we take out a few things. I'm finding an article from 2003. No. That can't be it.

Is it that old? Can we take it because we really are this shows against pedophilia we got to follow up on this Yeah, no for sure we are against pedophilia good call Lou Ever since that Megan's law list you got on you really are good Crossed your teeth you really stood up to it Good hunter he's by the book by the book Lou right now What's the name chase? I don't know. See it's so funny. I don't know, but these people chase. Yeah, what's going on? Crackle Crackle. What's up, buddy? What are these allegations you're speaking of? So I've been trying to get hold of you guys

for a few months. Every time Fiori's on him, I'm like, what did you talk to you guys about it because it's a write-up Jay's Allie. Back in 2003, their basis was caught basically kidnapping a nine-year-old from the leader, hold on from the leader of the Hells Angels. Where do you stole a kid from the Hells Angels? And took him to a boat house and started taking pictures of her. Okay. What was she doing with the hell's angels? Was she? Well, they were at a dead show. They were at a grateful dead show.

hilarious. He did it. He was sending it up so it looks like there's kid nettings happening at grateful dead shows and then he goes like that would never happen in a fish show it were too busy lost in the crunchy groove we never steal kids and he goes but did you hear that uh... somebody kidnapped the hell's angels kid at the grateful dead show that's pretty not just so i can get clear on this this was a child of the hell's angels yes the leader of the hell jangels they found my gourd in the bases for fish they found in the beach of shit out of it

oh yeah here we go so it's not all peace and love at the dead's concerts at a dead show last week at Jones Beach damn long island uh... what a thing what it is a place with brought us together with he we Lewis and Jimmy Buffett in this situation. A nine-year-old girl went missing. Her parents found their backstage and deserted boat house. Damn. The fish-basist Mike Gordon, the Associated Press and Rudy's report. Gordon was arrested and charged with child endangerment and trespassing, the Wires Services report. Before the police

came to arrest him for child endangerment, the girl's father reportedly a leader of the local hell's angels chapter Reportedly has some fellow bikers administer some rough justice the bikers were not gentle with sensitive areas of the rock stars body However, so course sources close to fish tell MTV news that Gordon was not seriously injured What was he doing with this girl at 1 a.m. 9 years old? Yeah, was she doing it with a 9 year old at why was a 9 year old girl at the concert? Well her dad's a hells angels. Yeah, oh yes, he plays by his own rules. Yeah. He said he wanted to take art photos of the victim. Oh, I may have shown bad judgment, but I'm not a pedophile. She said she was found fully closed. If you knew Mike at all, you know he doesn't live on planet earth. A rope of dope records president Andy Herwoods told the post he's been making movies since

he was a kid. He's always taking photographs. He's an artist, the whole things are misunderstanding. So is he like sort of retarded or something? Yeah, like a space case. I don't know, man, taking a nine year old that's not yours into a deserted boat house to take pictures. There's a nine year old you find anywhere you should find somebody else to return them back to the parents, you shouldn't take them somewhere secluded. Yeah, it does. It does.

Oh you wanted to go back to your parents? I thought you wanted to take some pictures next to this boat. Nothing happened. If you wanted to come to a deserted boat house with a stranger and take pictures. Well you don't want to hold this old ore while I take photos of you? This whole thing's a misunderstanding. Well they stomp as nuts, which is pretty fun. Yeah.

But this article is the one it's an entertainment weekly article from 2003. Damn. Yeah, really? So it's like, is he still in the band? Yeah. Mike Gordon. What's he doing now? He's still in the band. He's still in the bassist.

Someone call Fury. He's getting to get Fury on the horn. Call Fury. Get Fury on the phone. Mergement on the call. I want to know what's going on. I want to know if Andy Fury's been protecting a petafile this whole time Yeah, we got to call Fury and Fenoy to the carpet on this one. Yeah, cuz it happened to have fucking dead show in Fenoia

You know he's having a dead show from from a member of fish Come on. Those two worlds would collide over pedophilia. I never thought it. Tasty snacks and fucking groovy tunes. Sure. Female armpit hair that touches their pussy hair. People with fucking hacky sacks and bags that aren't. Really that strong. Yeah. Yeah, their hemp bags ripping under the weight

of their water bottles. Vans that you sleep in? Get him on the horn. Who's reaching out to Andy? Black Lou. We got Black Lou trying to contact Andy. Yeah, because someone's got an answer for this. He's still in there. We got him on the phone.

He's going to call in. Nice. Find out. Make him answer for his favorite bands pedophilia Yeah, this is how we find out fury super in the pedophilia I know it's only matter time for one of you He's still in the building fury still in the building is gonna come down nice. Okay. Thank you Even better

By the way real quick side note. I don't know who did this, but Shane announced his theater tour today and someone hacked his website. So when you go to ShaneGillis.com, it redirects to dancoder.com. I don't know who did it. I was taking a dump and looked at Twitter and someone was like, look what someone did. I have no idea who it was, but holy shit. I have a Texas Shane, I'm like, dude, I don't know. So I feel bad. I'm like, dude, you're announcing your theater tour today.

That's so funny. Yes, that's great huh? Yeah, it's awesome, that's awesome. But yeah, as of now it goes to dancer.com and I was just at our mutual manager's office and I was like, I don't know what's going on and his manager's trying to figure it out. Heh heh heh.

Heh heh heh. Uh, hackers, God, they're funny. Please don't fuck with me. They just the best. Aren't they just the bees knees? Oh, something nice and fun, like changing a website to his friends website or I don't know, taking America's biggest celebrities and showing pictures that come all over their face.

We're shutting down electrical grids. Just fun stuff. Yeah. Oh, dude, they really get in there and have some fun. I love his hacking into Sony and getting everyone's info. Andy Fury in the hot sea sitting down, Mert face him. We're not drawing, dude.

Today in a drawing day. Today we're drawing on a little thing called the law. That's misled. Can Andy sit next to you so I could see him? Oh yeah, Andy. Uh, get this mic. Is this mic work? Hi.

Hi. Andy, come over here. All right. He's on. Thank you. Oh, you got him. OK. He's on like this.

Oh nice. Perfect. There he is. Damn, back to my mic. Hi, friends. friends hey what up dog fewer we just found out some very disparaging news and we were feeling we were aware of 2003 ring a bell to you uh in fish's history

oh boy Jones Beach uh no they weren't twerring oh no three no they certainly weren't twerring 2003 what about any grateful we were going to see we were going to see grateful dead concerts it turns out at Jones Beach. Jones, Jones Beach. Who's the basis of fish? Mike Gordon. Mike Gordon. You say Mike Gordon. He's a photographer. Yeah. Yeah, he's a part of photographs. He sure is. Very artistic. You know, so like you can. Maybe you could take you get lost in his own thoughts. Yeah, yeah You know, and I don't think when you're talking about art age doesn't matter

Sure Come on, you can see a video. Can we see a video of Mike Gordon? It doesn't help his case. Play a video of Mike Gordon. Because hang on, while we're looking for that, let me say that when I watch the pedophile hunts, I do the reason I've even dialed back on them so much on watching them, I don't really see them that much anymore is because every like 10th one is someone where you're like wow They're stopping like a villain here, you know, I mean this is a person

It's a horrible angle and the rest of them Seemed to be like mentally challenged people who like they would have been excited if it was a nine-year-old or a 90-year-old reaching out to them, you know I mean they kind of just go with the flow of that thing So I'm wondering if this guy is borderline retarded and didn't see how crazy what he did was or if he's a bad person. Let's see. That's him on the architectural salvage from all over everywhere from

India to that's just try No, all farms and Vermont. So all the windows and doors and the whole place is completely piece together. It's kind of an improvisational project. But... Ha! Silly. And interesting sort of...

Her body was... It was interesting to see how that art just kind of transformed into a new one. Yeah, the original painting was completely covered over by the end So there you go. That explains it That's definitely the best The panel are being at this little uh from what do they call? Um, um the odds are some beautiful little angels

God of all it. I've only heard a couple of interviews with him for our website. I interview him to ask him how he made the painting and uh... he said kidnapsed that was a lot of that about the creatures in his paint so he said that was the one that covered and he said he more things of it in terms of how they think of him uh...

that he was pretty concerned about how to the pod uh... out of him Yeah, he was pretty concerned about how to pod Out of him. I don't know what the fuck they're talking about but yeah Christine were you controlling that? Well either way you got to just leave it weird dude. He's absolutely weirdo I am it got this was also in a time where there's zero social media. So it like got so swept under the rug. But I think what it was was that

he had some questionable photographs. Yeah, well he got caught with a nine year old girl backstage at Jones Beach and her boat house at one o'clock in the morning. Yeah, one o'clock in the morning with her. But it made him go to the house. Yeah, one o'clock in the morning with it. But it made a blow to us. And what else? The girl's dad was a Hell's Angels chapter leader.

And ended up stomping his nuts. Which is the other merc face. Yeah, the Hell's Angels kicked his ass that night. But I love his things like, okay. And then sure. Your point. You go, your point out checks out. I don't know.

You're pretty much telling on yourself that you've never listened to a fish song. Yeah, the Hell's Angels are their grateful dead guys, too. They were like grateful dead security. But, uh, but I mean, like, uh, the fish. This guy's a bad fella, huh? Listen, I have no defense for what he did. You got a question. The judgment of taking someone, I forget, I have no defense for what he did. Did they ever get a fry?

You got a question, the judgment of taking someone, I forget a hell's angels, a biker's kid or anything. First of all, I have some questions about a biker's, bringing their nine year old with a bunch of bikers to a great kid that showed weird already. I know, good James. But that said, okay, and then she goes missing and they find her, a stranger has walked a strange child

It's just I don't know all story. Yeah, it's not good Obviously, and he's one of it's funny when one of the other Hell's Angels guys goes oh man, that's Gordon. I'm a big fan of my Gordon. I'm a fish guy I'll tell you what though in the fish universe. Nobody gives a shit. No one cares about like that story got forgotten. Yeah, really? Oh, yeah, like no one gives a shit. No one You think for no way it would have the same level of defense. I Know I think Mike likes to hate a little more than I do, but there's no excuse He loves fish. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying like Like he'll still go. It's not like he would have a moral, you know,

issue with it where it's like, I will never support that band because of what he did. People don't give a shit. Also that little girl's 29 now. Yeah. I wonder if she would talk about it. Like I would like to be like, what did it see? So what was the name?

I was kidnapped by that dumb hippie. You know what it was too, is like, I almost played ignorance to the whole thing. I was like, I'm not even like he was taking photographs of her like backstage or something. Well, he said this what he was going to do. Right. When they found them, she was still fully clothed because I guess his powers of seduction and not a good looking guy.

It doesn't matter, she was nine. I don't think he was like, he goes, listen, he goes, I'll be honest with you, she is nine, but she was very receptive to my game. He was really hit it off. We just were there. She did not get to do it by his funky based tones.

I'm so we'll call Fanoi, he's gonna go, what was she wearing? Did it say that in the article? Did she say, maybe she said she wanted to go to that abandoned boat house. Yeah. Yeah. She said she was abandoned boat houses.

Not great. Not great. Now, bad look. Bad look. But that's what I'm saying. It's like... But listen, you're talking to two guys that are, you know, fans of Marilyn Manson and Queen of the Stone Age.

We've all got our... Yeah. I've got a couple. All our musical band, boys have skeleton. But I'm saying, if that story broke now, forget musical band boys have skeleton but I'm saying if that story broke now Forget's over that's what I'm saying 2003 over yeah, that's that's within a small community of people who Would would rather brush on under rug for the enjoyment of going since it's their favorite band is like well If this gonna screw the fish concert then I you know look the other way

But that story breaks now with in 2020. Yeah, forget it. That's they're done. I'll throw them a kid. Oh, it's not the kids. Throw it at a figure free tickets. Yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't gotten brought up actually. Well, just did. Thanks for just did. There is G shows get canceled. Yeah, you want to be just Indiana chase for Indiana call the two guys again. Yeah, city reaches out every time you're on the show, we never get a hold of them to say that. City reaches out every time you're on the show, we never get a hold of them to say that.

Oh, man, I would love if the New York Post article was fish, fish or fried. And as he has he never has he never said anything about it. Is there any article where he answered? I don't know. I don't know. It always seems like he's a special needs kid.

Like they keep talking for him. They go, it's always interviewing other people in the band. They go, oh, Mike's like a weird guy, but this is a totally he's definitely the weirdest guy. He's the bass player is the shyest and most quiet guy in the group. At least, it looks like this story didn't really have legs. There's a couple are from 2003 and then there's a Reddit thread from 2020 that says I just remembered Mike Gordon is a pedophile, but this did not have any sort of like rebirth where it went around again

where people are like, wait, why the fuck was this guy alone with a nine year old? Binds. That is how much people don't give a shit about jam music. It's made no waves in the world. Really not popular. So it's like people don't know who he is at all. They don't care. Yeah.

Do you guys know the lead singer of OAR is Hitler's grandson? But I don't care. That was a crazy game of poker. And they go, they're actually talking about the night that Hitler took his life. The string cheese incident is all Mussolini's grandchildren. This went out. All jam bands are comprised of terrible, terrible people. Damn dude, I love everyone's excuse about this is like yeah, those back in the three things are different. Well, I will say everybody turned a blind eye to it and it just went away. The story went away. So well, hell's angels just kicked his ass so that's all they stopped there. She was fully cloned and they found so I don't think he got to any molesting. But he said she said it's insane behavior. Of course, to bring it to bring a lost child or

someone a child that's not yours that young into an abandoned boat house. At one point, at one point, he did the serious. No, the booklight is just right. That's right. He was like at one point, he did the stereotypical typical pedophile thing we went right this way. I think the way the moonlight hit the water at Jones Beach. He has a good eye for photography. I have to photo a child. Yeah, it's not her. Somebody else. I find this child. Let's go. Should we go hold signs up? Says you can have my daughter Mike at fish concerts. Dude, what where are the photos? Don't start making those posters.

Where's the photos? Show me the photos, Mike. Where's the emails? They got rid of the emails. Yeah, he really did though. That's smart. He did. He only caught it like, you know, less than a decade into internet pop. And so didn't really get them any legs. Yeah, you had to read like, you know,

yeah, they would have to have papers, newspapers printed on hemp. Yeah, back then it was like, it was funny that Arkelli was pissing on teenage girls. Everyone's like, that's the same thing, yeah. Where, no, it's literally, ask a question. It's funny you say that because that is true. Like the Arkelli pissing tape was sold on the streets,

like right next to bootleg copies of the air of the air and shit. But it's it is if the diehard fish fans if you ask them about it they just go. Ah that was just this whole crazy thing crazy. Crazy. Oh, it's a mix up. That was all thing. Wow.

So what he took a child into an abandoned boat house. Oh kisses and hugs and candy and toys Yeah, they will find they go she was close and it was for photography She was close is it your funny thing oh? Yeah, it's yeah really really not cool. Yeah, you don't take your clothes off to do mouth stuff Andy. Yeah, all right You just know he goes don't worry guys are closer on I only skullfucker my oh my key cordo well I appreciate Andy we appreciate you coming by and that I can

help and clear I can set some light and chase an Indiana thanks for bringing this up I'm glad hope I'm sorry we we never could get to that before chase yeah but we did okay we got it seems like Chase's form of gotcha journalism oh I'm sorry we we never could get to that before chase. Yeah, but we did Okay, we got it. It seems like Chase's form of gotcha journalism. Oh Andy Fury Pedophile Apology Cassia see you guys an MSG spend spin tails for other perverts see you guys the bakers does All right, I get a run. We love you guys. It is the bonfire.

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