The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Sixth Sense with Donnie Wahlberg

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

Actor musician Donnie Wahlberg joins Jay in studio to chat about his long career. He gets into the New Kids years and producing his brother Mark. Donnie is promoting the final season of Blue Bloods ...on CBS. Bobby finds Trump hilarious because he worked at McDonalds just for a troll. Christine visits the Trump Store online and makes some purchases. The guys have thoughts on young, dumb voters. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolfSubscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to new episodes ad-free and a whole week early.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now the bonfire with big Jay Okerson and Robert Kelly Back to the bonfire faction talk series xm 103 Great Robert Kelly. I'm big Jay Okerson Trump I mean dude If you don't think that's funny as a comedian or anybody likes comedy that this fucking tub of shit is Working McDonald's Fucking doing fries sticking his head out the window just to troll Kamala Harris is fucking funny dude. I love it. Do me a favor Christine buy this $1,000 signed
Starting point is 00:00:32 Donald J Trump edition and let's get that up somewhere quick. I want that. I want that so bad. Oh I do. The Donald J Trump. I'd say I'd buy all of it. We should give it to Lou so we can get an X-Acto knife and cut out the Constitution from it. I should actually be at the airport this weekend. I should buy a Kamala Harris and a Donald Trump chocolate bar. Oh, did you ever notice that the Donald Trump chocolate bars are all gone and the Kamala Harris bars are all there? Are they really? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. I hope I can find a Trump one. I got, I told you I brought that deck of gold-plated I told you I brought that deck of gold plated
Starting point is 00:01:06 playing cards. Of Trump? It was like a $20 deck of cards at a gas station. They had four of them. I bought like two or three. I bought the Trump sneakers. I got the Trump sneakers. Yeah, I was gonna wear them at Skankfest. When we did the Bonfire Live,
Starting point is 00:01:18 I was gonna wear the Trump sneakers and I was gonna wear one angel wing on the right side. And I forgot the fucking sneakers because Don hid them in a box, and we moved, and I came back. Damn it. There's the cards I got, they're so great. They're so great, the box is so, like, tall.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I just want that back. He's fucking, he's a great. It's a great deck of cards. I want that. He's a lunatic. It's so, so nice. But I'm saying, the whole thing is like, the guy's like a pop culture hero at this point.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yeah, he is a fucking lunatic Wow, look at those. Oh that's sharp. He is such a cheeseball with the gold. He loves gold Look at this store. This is crazy This is all just him Christine. Look at home and spa, please I'd like to see he put on a house that just sold and I think it's connect on Connecticut sound whatever the it was multi million millions of dollars 38 million it sold for But the people that bought it had to renovate the entire thing is all gilded. Yeah He's a fucking cheeseball yeah
Starting point is 00:02:21 He likes like the Roman Empire type shit. Like with the big columns and shit. Joan Rivers' apartment. Yeah. Donald Trump had the same taste. They do. They have that fucking early rich person fucking decor. 90s rich.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah, 90s horse shit rich. Dude, he has the same- It's like when Anthony Cumi's apartment was the fucking soprano's rich. Donald Trump has the same taste as Master P, like the same problems. He goes, I got gold-plated toilets, found out it's where Dukie goes. So, kind of a waste.
Starting point is 00:02:52 You know, I actually, you know how to gold-plated toilets? Saddam Hussein. Did he really? And I took a shit in it. Really? I have a picture of me shitting. In the gold toilet? Yeah, we went, they were calling,
Starting point is 00:03:01 we went to Saddam's palace. Did you find out afterwards there was no plumbing, so he just has to live there now? Like shitting in a Home Depot toilet? No, there with Colin, we went to Saddam's palace. Did you find out afterwards there was no plumbing? So he just has to live there now? Like shitting in a Home Depot toilet? No, there was plumbing, because when they attacked Iraq, they didn't attack any of his palaces, because they were all fortified. So they sent one rocket through his bedroom window
Starting point is 00:03:16 just to let him know, and they fucking ran. So they took over all the 36 palaces and put our bases in the palaces, because it already had walls and floor. If you look. That probably doesn't make the locals upset at all, honestly. A pure occupation,
Starting point is 00:03:31 if another country has come and taken the palaces of your evil leader. I bet they love that. I went by the, it was called the Perfume Palace, the Rape Palace of Uday. Nice. He had a palace that looked like a perfume bottle that he would do all his raping in.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Oh really? Yeah. But it was gold. No, that wasn't gold. Oh that he would do all his raping in. Oh really? Yeah, but it was gold No, that wasn't gold. Oh, you think your rape room would be gold? You think so because it's easier to clean those that's where you chins This is where he chinches the rape room Man I want to buy so much Trump stuff, but I won't wear any of it I do want the packet cards the deck of cards is one of my favorite things that I own I have a little head of a little pen do want the packet cards. The deck of cards is one of my favorite things that I own.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I have a little head of a little pen that you push and it says Trump's things. And I have one that was Hillary, when you could say her things. We saw. Trump's was hilarious dude. We saw a thing in Philly the other day. I think that was the back windshield of someone's car.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's a picture of Trump. And it's on the actual back windshield wiper. It's his arm with a finger out so he's doing like no no no no no I don't care who you I know people hate him for they hate him they think he's a racist but he's fucking hilarious hilarious but as funny as it is to have never I don't know if I've ever seen a politician this universally not you shouldn't say universally the people that hate him
Starting point is 00:04:45 Hate him with such a passion. I equally haven't seen people be this stoked on somebody who's president You know, nobody was like dude Ronald Reagan's the shit you ever see this guy's like fucking a hunting regiment, dude Also this guy the way he wakes up at what I feel like people like Michelle love Ronald Reagan. I have people love Trump I understand but I'm saying I'm not saying people didn't love their politicians. I'm saying it wasn't like everything in life. Do you know what I mean? This guy is like, some people, their identity
Starting point is 00:05:13 is I'm the guy who wears Make America Great. And in my circle of people, I'm the guy who has the thing in the yard that says Trump 2024, Trump for Jesus or whatever the fuck. Trump is Jesus. You know what I mean? So it's like that stuff. I'm surprised. That's what blows me away to him Like why are you guys so into him? Like why can't you go? Oh, well, maybe here's some good things He did in policy and also like what a ridiculous lunatic to say this fucking thing. There's no one between them
Starting point is 00:05:39 No, he's just telling you like it is he goes No, that was like a weird dumb thing to say for for sure, why can't there be any kind of realism? They call him a racist too, but they went back into his life. Before his wife now, he was dating a- He fucked so many blacks. He was dating a black girl, and all these black dudes were talking about,
Starting point is 00:05:56 like they would go to the clubs, the black clubs, and Trump would be there without security when he was just Trump, hanging out at black clubs, banging black chicks. He loved... Black people loved Trump. Loved him.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Fucking loved him. They loved Scarface. And he loved them. He loved them. Oh yeah. I mean, like, whatever capacity. It's just like, the guy is what he is. I'm just so surprised that it's like, it's this.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It's that people are so stoked on him is what blows my mind. I go, why do you think this guy's the greatest thing that happened to the presidency? That's what I'm not getting. What is it you love about him that you're like, this guy's the greatest president? It's weird because we had a lot of- I don't understand what he's accomplished in his time
Starting point is 00:06:37 that you're like, this guy is the shit. I don't think Kamau, who knows? Kamau Harris might be the best or the absolute worst. Because he says shit that you're not supposed to say he's not Presidential and he says he says that kind of scary. It's fucking terrifying and he says that stuff at He says the like he trapped he says these funny fucked up things about Kamala being a liar about McDonald's Then he goes to McDonald's. I've worked here 15 minutes people love that shit about him that he says stuff that The regular douchebag would say hanging out of the fact that he has time to do an act that grand to go be bitchy to somebody
Starting point is 00:07:13 Is fucking lifting where you're like, there's probably better ways dedicate your time. But is there Maybe not not for my entertainment Listen this goes back to Well before you were here on the Bonfire, but one of my favorite things we ever went over on this show was early in the show when Trump got elected. It was when they had the hurricane in Puerto Rico, and he was going to, and the way he was throwing
Starting point is 00:07:36 paper towels to people, like he was shooting baskets, to families smashing each other to pieces to try to get some kind of, and paper towels. For a flooded, a flooded goddamn whole island. He's like, he's like, eh, bounty for you. And there you go, little Kirkland. Little Kirkland big bag over there. Yeah, he's a fucking piece of shit, man. So that's what I'm saying, but it's in the people that love him.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's not policy stuff. They're just like, I fucking it It's you know what it is. Yeah, there it is. It's religion. He goes one over there and One over here. He's throwing them to all hot chicks by the way this symbolic. Oh, yeah, I see it back there mama He's not throwing one to a dude. He's just all smoking chicks in my bang. He goes no not you tits behind you there it is It's a phenomenon. I don't understand. I would never, the people that will transform their entire, their house, their car, and their clothing. Me and Max in New Hampshire all summer played the Trump game. Where you would see a Trump sign. You just go Trump, Trump.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And it was to the point where it was like Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, like certain people's houses had 45 Trump signs. That's what I'm saying, it's a lot of money. It was crazy. And that's your house. At the end of the summer it was 3,000 to 2,500. That's how many Trumps. But to give a shit that much, even like, when I saw that thing on the car, I was like, you
Starting point is 00:09:01 know what's funny, it tells you a Trump, the guy,, person who had like the finger waving Trump on their back thing, Hyundai Santa Fe. And it really immediately took me out of it. I go, you're willing to, it's like you have a Hyundai Santa Fe and you're willing to just make your car this joke forever? You're a loser. It's the same guy who puts antlers on his fucking car during Christmas. Yes. Florida's prolific. You'll see they spend thousands on the entire rap. I remember one guy's truck. This was his business truck.
Starting point is 00:09:30 He was a contractor. And it said Trump from the front of the truck to the back in gigantic, like three foot tall lettering. Yeah. But I mean, that's dedication. I have to tell you about it. That's the thing. They can't. It's really easy. You to't. It's religion. They need you to know. We work with a guy who won't shut the fuck up about it. You know what I'm talking about Jacob. Lou, Lou, Lou. Yeah, yeah. Not you, not you Bob. No Lou. I said Lou. Black Lou? Oh no. God loves Trump.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I've been thinking by the way guys, we have to find a way, I know he's not here this week, we have to find a way to get black Lou into a dress just because I'll get the launching pad To make a black man make it I've been told I've been watching a lot of clips that say that if a black man Holly would put mix and put a dress on but then you're in so if we can just get black glue in a dress for some Reason we'll figure it out There you go a full-wrapped Maga car. God. I mean what a loop that is crazy Well, if that's your business car. You're like, don't you just want...
Starting point is 00:10:27 You're gonna get more business from people that love Trump. Yeah, but then half the people that don't, won't, won't... Not in Florida. Contract you. That's crazy. I mean, that's fucking crazy. I don't get it. I want to write things that are like, I'm gonna get my car wrapped with such crazy things
Starting point is 00:10:40 like welcome home, the guy who shot Reagan. He's out now. Welcome home. Welcome home, John Hinckley. Is he out? shot Reagan he's out now welcome home oh Johnny welcome home John Hinckley I think he's out yeah no I'm almost certain I think possibly is Mark David Chapman possibly he's in no he's not out but I think he's still in I think Hinckley's out because he makes music and people love it oh no has to go in every year saying Oh, no has to go in every year saying
Starting point is 00:11:11 Please I had no idea the tea was twisted nice I would absolutely let me tell you something. I would absolutely wrap my trunk in a picture of Donald Trump giving Dane Cook super fingers And then have really small in the back and then be like Donald Trump. And then be like Bobby Kelly, Jay Davis, Gary Nolan's really small. Huck to a damn thing. Spit on that thing with Trump double middle fingers. Christine, I'm looking at the price of this and I'm telling you, if I end up getting a truck,
Starting point is 00:11:39 I'm really batting around getting it wrapped with something awesome. It's only $49 for a Huck Tour Trump double fingers? That's great. You can spend thousands on wraps. Yeah, yeah. Thousands. To get it done perfectly.
Starting point is 00:11:50 That's great, let me get my shoes after this. My shoes. I'm gonna get my shoes. That's crazy, look at all those. What's that one say? We love Trump. We love Trump people. Stand.
Starting point is 00:12:04 All the people I can't stand. In this car we love Trump. We love Trump people stand all the people I can't stand We love in this car. We love Trump because he pisses off all the people. I can't stand man That's a man. That's an accident waiting to happen reading all that. I think that's it, too I think you're saying why do people love him so much? I think it's because the people they hate the kind of people they hate It pisses them off absolutely and I'm worried that we possibly talked about this, this week on live shows, already because our Terminator timeline's here. But I've been going into these, Christine was watching one with me the other day, these rabbit holes, it's exactly right. I don't
Starting point is 00:12:37 like either people, but the people that the Trump people are like, I love that he pisses off the people I hate. There's these guys, it's a little weak. I've talked to Dave Smith about it too. I'm like, it's a little weak of a thing they do. These like smarmy conservatives go to college camp. Ben Shapiro does a very similar thing. They're entertaining for sure, but it's like, you go and argue with a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds
Starting point is 00:13:01 who are like, because if I say that I'm a man tomorrow, you should respect that I'm a man. And they just sit there and go, you sound like a buffoon. And there's a bunch of people behind them going like, yeah, you sound like a buffoon. But it's like, they just lower these couches, those little microphone on campuses. And they're just like, well, women are gonna get,
Starting point is 00:13:18 you know, coat hanger abortions if it's this, Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk is the guy who does that. That's the one, that's the person and he's sick early he's he's very a religious very American Constitution and he'll go up but he's very he's very smart he dismantles these kids but you're dismantling children yeah dumb chill I know their takes I know they're gonna come out and be like and then you know he's just like well I don't know I guess I'm important enough for you to come up here but the one girl are the reason I even found him and started going deep in his thing
Starting point is 00:13:47 Because they keep saying which by the way I think is hyped up and not true They go this girl wanted his thing to get flagged so bad that while he's talking to her she keeps trying to like show her Like the top of her nipples so the video would get flagged the mic. I don't think that's what she's doing at all I think she is I don't feel bad for her because you're the dummy, dumb bitch who fucking stepped up to a microphone to be like, I'm going to school this guy. And then you got fucking handled because you're a dummy. But like, he's just like, look at you. And just like the, the, the, the piling on like bullying of it is just the thing where it's like, buddy, we all get it. You just talk to this dumb chick who's like, there's
Starting point is 00:14:20 77 genders, like disregard her. You're going to see her and argue that whether she's a dope because the kids colleges are Listen, but they've been they've been their kids. They don't have any experience. They're just going on what they think they they know dependent teller member bullshit They that show they have an episode one of the greatest episodes one of my favorite episodes They went on the college campuses and they had a guy with a clipboard and they went up to everybody, hey, we wanna ban this thing and it's really,
Starting point is 00:14:50 it's in the school, it's in the cafeteria, and they were like, yeah, and they all signed this petition to ban it and it was just another word for water because they don't fucking know. So 30 kids signed a petition to ban water because they don't know what the fuck that name for waters They're just they just want to be part of something. They're tribal They want to they want to do the right thing and be part of something and be on the right side of history
Starting point is 00:15:16 And they don't know what the fuck was afraid about everyone's afraid as being a fucking ant on a goddamn log Waiting to live your life and die. I don't know what that means. No, you do. I'm saying it's a... No, it's not you. It's me. They want to believe they're like part of something greater. They're like, wow, we really stood up for the thing and made like change.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And it's like, just get your education and go get a good job. I just miss... And enjoy your life and go to vacation and have a family and whatever. I miss colleges when they were fucking party places. Yes. When you went there and they went to learn, get an education, get laid... and go to vacation and have a family and whatever. I missed colleges when they were fucking party places. Yes. When you went there and they went to learn, get an education, get laid, and party.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Then collegeinvasion.com would come in and a bunch of porn stars would fuck at your friend's house. I mean, that's a little too far, but yes, I understand what you're saying. Oh, okay. Date rape. I mean, look at, I mean, listen. Forget date rape.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I mean, date rape, I mean, there's levels. Right, Christine? Sounds just drugging girls and fucking them. I don't mean to call it rape. Well, I don't like date rape. I mean... No, college also, it's like these kids, it's the first time they're out of their parents' house, they're all like rebelling against,
Starting point is 00:16:19 they're mostly conservative families. Right. So, you know, it's just a bunch of fucking idiotic children. But they don't know. They're just trying to, yeah. And it sucks because now you put them in a position in the last fucking 10, 15 years to be more grown up than they should have been. They should be having a fucking blast.
Starting point is 00:16:35 They should be partying, getting their schooling in, fucking having fun, and date rape. But these also, it's like people- I wouldn't be disappointed in Isabella if she was like, well, I'm voting for either one. If she was like, I'm voting for Kamala because like, I just, Trump seems like scary. Or if she was like, I'm voting for Trump because blah blah, I go, sure. Whatever your reasons are,
Starting point is 00:16:54 probably aren't even valuable in much anyway. Right. You know what I mean? It's like you're a 22 year old kid. Like you're not really in the workforce like that yet where you're contributing to everything. I'm like, who cares? I had to yell at Max because he was,
Starting point is 00:17:06 he saw like some Trump stuff and heard somebody talking about Trump and he was like, Trump's the guy. I was like, dude, you don't know anything about this. You don't know Biden. You have to, you gotta wait until you're older to learn about Biden, learn about politicians, learn about their things.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You have no idea. And I was like, why is Trump good? He's like, aw, I don't know. I go, you can't just say Trump. You have to say, you have to know what the fuck you're talking about. Half of our family is voting for, most of our family is voting for Biden.
Starting point is 00:17:33 We've come from Boston Democrats, Catholic Democrats. Doesn't matter, they're voting for fucking Biden no matter what. And Harris. I mean Harris now, of course, yes. Back then when he was, when it was, when he said this, it was Biden and Harris. But it's like my Uncle Tommy is the only Trump dude
Starting point is 00:17:50 in the family. And you know, nobody hates him. It's just Tommy, he's fucking Republican Tommy. Everybody else is, who gives a shit? But now it's like this fucking religion that people, like back in the day when Christians hated rock and roll and sex and all that shit, and they would, what was that group that used to stand out in front of people's homes
Starting point is 00:18:13 and like veterans and fags? They hated fags. Oh, Westboro Baptist Church. Westboro Baptist, yeah. Those guys rule. God hates fags. Those guys are wild. What an asshole, man, what a bunch of fucking lunatics.
Starting point is 00:18:24 They did one of the smartest moves I've ever seen somebody do. They fucking, it's such a scumbag move, they front line their own children. So the children go out there, and then they have a thing like, we're just putting our freedom of speech out there, and then this savage came by and threw a drink at us
Starting point is 00:18:41 and got it all over my little boy. And it's like, you brought your little boy out of this hostile environment to say things you told him to say You know I mean Gay people are going to hell and you're an eight-year-old saying like that's such abuse to the kids to put him in that scenario I'm fucking believe those without I mean those people used to they used to make me angry that used to get me I think I think they're pieces of shit but I found the situation so funny because again it's the the peeling back of like man as
Starting point is 00:19:11 I'm an adult I go I guess cuz I never feel like an adult even though I'm almost 47 you know I'm dressed like one I don't dress like one either all I'm saying I don't feel like an adult and then you realize like oh cuz none of us actually are no do you know I'm saying like I don't think it don't it's the same thing that somebody in their 50s like the Westboro Baptist Church You can get a group of adults to think it's not to defend with pride like what we're allowed to go to a soldier's Funeral and and sit outside and say he's going to hell because he's gay in front of his whole family. That's speech Like you're like somebody Near my age thinks that's like a thing
Starting point is 00:19:47 you should do at some point. Without having a personal vendetta hatred against that soldier, you're just going, they're fighting for a gay man's queer war. That's like the people that took religion, religion, any religion is supposed to give you peace. It's supposed to give you a moral compass. And the people that took the religion in front of the abortion clinics, and I remember when
Starting point is 00:20:08 I had to be- Bobby, I don't know if you've ever seen gay sex happen. It's far from peaceful. It's not what I would describe as peaceful. When I took my, my girl Kristen, she had to get an abortion. I had to go with her. It was fucking abusive what they did to her. Because it wasn't your baby.
Starting point is 00:20:25 It was my baby. I think it was. We were walking in and they had all these signs of fucking, and they were screaming at her, calling her a fucking sinner, she's going to hell. She's crying, she's going in here. She doesn't want to do this. She has to fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You forced her to, yeah. I forced her to do it. And I didn't pay it half. We didn't touch. You said, look, the baby dies or both of you die. Yeah. Is what you said I didn't pay paid half. You said you said you said look the baby dies or both You die. Yeah is what you said and I'm paying half and then you 160 and we're even you pull up to the protesters And you've reached across her to open the passenger door and kick their pregnant ass out right in front of the place I said have at her fellas
Starting point is 00:20:58 I just don't understand why you see girls young girls going into something to do something It's already fucking horrific to into something, to do something, it's already fucking horrific to make the decision to do this. Because you can't, you know you're not gonna be a good mom, you can't do it. And you're gonna stand out in front and make them feel worse? That's fucking crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Well there's, listen, I get their other side as they're going like, then just put the baby up for adoption, like somebody can't take care of that baby. Who? Sure, I'm not arguing either direction baby jay I'm not fucking her anymore oh yeah no for sure no I'm kidding gross it is gross I can have a black child yeah you could but thank God you didn't I guess thank God for you you didn't Jay's daughter is that's okay we need we need to get a little color in this
Starting point is 00:21:45 lineage. You really do. The Okersons particularly. Oh no actually don't worry my my girl cousins in Florida are definitely holding up their end of black cock. Everyone's gonna be fine everybody. Nice. Is here to be fine. Guys Florida's gonna be a-okay. As long as my chubby white cousins continue to have vaginas a black cock will have a home In Florida I Just think it's fire. They always have to those are the people that you wind up fucking hating those those extremists They take something that's supposed to be good and make it terrible and they fuck of the rest of us because the rest of us Don't give a shit about this most of us I just live in our lives we don't
Starting point is 00:22:26 care about any of this shit I think Trump is hilarious fucking Harris is a fucking idiot yeah but who I'm gonna be and we get into all this by the way in Cuba when all this shit is going down with Ari smoking cigars watching this fucking place burn down Bobby I don't know what's happened in your early 50s but you've decided to become an adventurer of terrifying places. Me and Bobby, me and Bobby are gonna go try to, we're trying to recover a relic from a mine ruins. I don't know, I'll be back in a week. Buddy, I've always been like this. I went to Guatemala twice.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah, I'm taking Yamanica and Bobby Lee to the woods to go fist fight nature. You guys could cover for a week? Cuba's not dangerous. No, are you going to Guantanamo Bay? No, we're going to Cuba. Oh yeah, sounds terrifying. Havana, that's what you're staying in. Havana's not dangerous. Are you going to Guantanamo Bay? No, we're going to Cuba. Havana's not dangerous. Well, are you going to the part where Havana nights dirty dancing happens? I hope so. It's on the list.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I hope so too. If me and Ari come back dancers? Dancers of the night? You do that. Next summer I'm going to go have original dirty dancing. I'm going to go fuck a 15 year old at the Catskills. At a dried up lake? At a dried up lake. And then I'm gonna get a back alley abortion from my friend. Damn that was a dark movie Derry Dancing. Had a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Fucking underage sex. A father having to deal with his daughter being a slut with some adult. Damn. I mean all those movies were fucking terrible. All of the movies you grew up with, and all the rock stars were pieces of shit too. They all have terrible things in their past. That girl, a couple years back I heard on Stern, one of the famous groupies, and she was like, I was 15 and I got gang banged by the Allman brothers
Starting point is 00:24:00 in the Beacon Theater fucking dressing room. You're like, hmm? But they told that story as a good thing for years. Oh, absolutely. And she's still telling it as a good thing. It just society is not going to be OK with that as they shouldn't be. Was the Red Hot Chili Peppers guy did it and then wrote a song about banging an underage girl. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Dude, he was she was 15 17 if you tell people both Shut your little mouth. How much is this going to cost me? If you tell your parents, I'll kill you. If you tell anyone, I swear to God, I'll find you and I'll kill you. This guy's I think he's got a super young girlfriend now. He always has a super young girlfriend. Now it's funny because he's like 60 something. Yeah, he trades them out like fucking...
Starting point is 00:25:13 It's like Menudo members. Just trade them out. This guy made it through... I mean, whatever he did to make it through Me Too is... I mean, for what Louie did and what this guy did, it's crazy. He didn't get hit once. Did you hear the new thing that Louie actually had his 52nd birthday at P. Diddy's white party? I'm starting convolving people that we don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Did you actually hear, I think Bert Kreischer actually raped three girls. I think, did you hear Bert Kreischer raped Foxy Brown? I heard that happen at a thing. Oh, there she is. She's crazy. That's just nuts. Oh, hey everyone, we made a Dane Cooks game night. I heard that happen that I think oh there she is Hey everyone we made a Dane Cooks game night
Starting point is 00:25:55 Even Dane would be like that's some crazy shit. Yeah, hey guys, it's bring your own teen night to Dane Cooks house It's gonna be so great I know we gotta take it. I know we gotta take a break and we are going to be airing I interviewed Donnie Wahlberg We had a good time. I had a good time bullshitting with him Bobby was out of town Filming comedy camp so I said that I was able to get him in here still and we sat down I was I'll give you a fun fact We walked about a mile to get here because traffic was jammed up and we were gonna be way late And I got out of the car and we walked over to work from the west side highway to get in here in a miserable mood by that point. But we got in here and he was so fucking awesome. We had a great, uh,
Starting point is 00:26:33 Let me compliment you cause you know, I didn't grow up a new kids on the block fan. I never hated the guy, but it's just like you pointed this out. You, you, you you you had to hate him cuz all the girls like them Yeah, but listen to the interview the guys just lived a fascinating life very Yeah, I mean, it's not everyone and you guys have the same teeth. Yeah, I mean the same teeth. Yeah, he's got great teeth I got Wahlberg teeth. That's what I said when I went in Robert Kelly is gonna beat uncle Vinny's in Point Pleasant, New Jersey October 26 and then the biggie comics come home happening at the TD Garden in Boston November 2nd that is always a humongous show. After that Miami for an afternoon show with Ari Shaffir before they I guess inner tube to Cuba?
Starting point is 00:27:18 We're flying. He's joining the Wichita linemen, Arkansas, Bobby's going on his toothless blowjob tour Mars Plains, New Jersey and you can catch Bobby every Tuesday night 7 p.m. To Fat Black Pussycat lounge the Comedy Seller for tickets And all tour dates go to punchup.live slash Robert Kelly where you can get all kinds of content including his newest special kill box Big J is going to be at helium Comedy Club in Buffalo the 25th and 26th Then at Brick Town Comedy Club in Oklahoma City November 1st and 2nd he's doing a nonchalant meet and greet next door at the Black Eyed Peas It's like 10 minutes away. 10 minutes away? It's called the Red Dog.
Starting point is 00:27:55 The Red Dog Salsa Lounge. Nope it's a strip club. Okay it's a strip club yeah he's gonna be doing that after the show and then he's gonna be in Austin Louisville Houston Philly for all tickets and other tour dates Go to big J comedy comm I'm glad to be back Hanging with the crew. Oh, yeah, we'll be uh learn this dance We'll be back live next week for your Friday Monday Monday Jacob back live like normal His life back to normal Monday Life back to normal Monday back full crew full crew back on Monday
Starting point is 00:28:30 Everything's back to normal enjoy the Donnie Wahlberg interview Enjoy the pre-record tomorrow. This is the pre-record. This is a fucking dumb piece of shit I'm gonna spend the whole weekend fucking knowing about this fuck-ups the last thing I did goodbye. Please change your finger All right Goodbye. Please change your finger polish. Alright. We're coming right out of the box. Jesus Christ, Lou. What is this, two on the nose? Lou on the nose. Lou's coming out of the box.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Hey, he's probably only had 30 some years of dealing with that. Hey, welcome to our show. And then here's this annoying thing probably again for you. No, not annoying. It's past. That stage passed. Sure. Yes. No, I can see that for sure. But I mean also it's like, this is the one of all of them.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It seems like you don't know the catalog, Lou, and that's upsetting. I do. It is the Bodfire Faction Talk Series XM103. Big Jay Okerson here. We came in early for a very, very special guest. Very excited to have him in here. My age falls right into this is so cool. So, so cool for me. Not only an amazing music career, but I mean, The Sixth Sense, I mean, Saul 2 and 3, I believe.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah, and 4. And 4? Yeah. Fourteen amazing seasons of a hit show Blue Bloods and its 14th and final season airing the final ten starting this Friday October 18th 10 p.m. it is the legend Donnie Wahlberg in the house. I don't know about throwing that title around my way but I'll take it. I'll take it. I just found today how far I would walk for an interview with Donnie Wahlberg 1.3 miles Traffic was screwed up all down the West Side Highway, and we jumped out of our uber and walked across town
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah, we had to get here when it's like that you could walk 10 miles quicker much faster, and you could drive it Oh, this is the anyway. It ain't moving in this city. It ain't moving. Where is it do you live now? I live an hour outside of Chicago with my wife, Jenny. Nice. Yeah, I don't know. We ended up there. I was going to say, I don't know how we ended up there, but I do know.
Starting point is 00:30:35 She grew up in Chicago. She loved it. She wanted to raise her son out there. And we met. She was working here in New York for a few years. Of course. We know Jenny very well. We used to do crossover stuff with our shows all the time. For sure, and we would travel every other weekend
Starting point is 00:30:48 to Illinois, where she was staying out in the Northwest suburbs. And I fell in love with it. She loved it. My kid fell in love with it. Her son loved it. So we just moved out there. That's what everyone's kind of finding out, I think,
Starting point is 00:30:59 now is that if you live near an airport, it really doesn't matter where you live. Like, if you're touring yeah It doesn't make any difference at all. Do you miss Boston a ton? Um I get back enough so I don't I don't miss it per se because I'm there a lot You know, I go to the a lot of basketball games. No, I've seen you use those fantastic seats Almost Sixers guy, you know, I like your guys this year Yeah, they stay healthy Paul George can keep those pecker legs not broken.
Starting point is 00:31:27 You got to keep a lot of guys healthy on that team. But if they do, scary team, scary team. Absolutely. I've got a I could talk to you, I feel like for five hours, because I'm 47 years old this year and I mean, new kids in the block felt so into my wheelhouse. It's such an interesting time to go because one If you were boy all the girls immediately loved you guys in school, so you had to Hate them and then behind closed doors just you know, please don't go girl. Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:58 Or those daring few kids who would just embrace it. That's what I did with Michael Jackson Yeah, so all the in freshman year in high school, Michael Jackson was, you know, it was, I guess it was 1983. Thriller was the biggest thing in the world. And every girl in school obviously loved Michael Jackson, but very few of the boys were walking around saying, yeah, Michael Jackson. I got a Michael Jackson pin for my birthday
Starting point is 00:32:25 and the Thriller album and I wore the pin to school and every girl in school was like, oh my God, you like Michael? And every girl wanted to talk to me and it was like, oh wow, this is cool. And so when New Kids came out, I saw the same phenomenon happen where all the girls loved us
Starting point is 00:32:42 and the boys were more reluctant. I was like, one of these kids gotta smarten up smart nut man like he the only guy at the whole concert with 15,000 girls did you grew up in a pretty rough town? Would you say in yeah, Dorchester Dorchester for sure? Yeah being Bobby Kelly the co-host of this show is from I don't think some Dorch. I where's Bobby from exactly Bobby Kelly Bobby Kelly sounds like he's from somewhere in Boston. Oh yeah, no doubt. Bobby Kelly! The only thing we agree on is Mike's roast beef.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah, there you go. It is the best. But being in a place like that, when you're coming out, did you have to be talked to in any way or were you seeking out doing like singing and dancing stuff? Because it feels like a place where you'd probably be more drawn into like exclusively like hip hop or something like that and I was we're gonna get tested in the neighborhood for like I was who's this singing and dancing guy I was drawn into hip hop right out of the gate in the in the late 70s when when hip
Starting point is 00:33:34 hop started coming of course in Boston we really only got like rappers delight so we didn't really know a lot of the the other hip hop that was you know probably more, people were more aware of in New York. Like Queens and everything. Yeah, but once I heard the first rap I could ever heard and then I started hearing Curtis Blow and then I started hearing Melly Mel, like I was all in from the get go. And then Run DMC of course,
Starting point is 00:33:59 made my whole life make sense musically because I was hip hop and R&B in school and I was rock and roll at home and then Run DMC came and I was like oh my god this band makes more sense than anything musically that's ever spoken to me in my life. God I'm sorry. Well we're also too I don't think that me and you were too far apart in age to even say like it's a it was a great time, I feel like, to grow up because influence from everywhere. Like that's what I thought was interesting. It's like you knew a little bit of country
Starting point is 00:34:32 from this person in your life, and you kind of took it all in and liked all of it. You weren't like one genre driven. For sure. And that same thing with me. Like I almost, I was the first member of New Kids on the Block with my brother Mark. And he quit after like three months
Starting point is 00:34:46 because he couldn't sing. And he didn't want to be bothered like practicing and learning. I found the studio- Talking about dude, feel my heat, classic. Yeah, right? Well, that's the thing, the Dirk Diggler performance, that's how he really sings.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I got demos from back then. He don't sound any better than that. He didn't have the fake Dirk Diggler singing. He sucked. It was terrible. But he also, you know, he, he, I found salvation in the recording studio, right? So I would, I went, one of the first times I went, the producer didn't even show up, just Mark and I went and there was an 808 drum machine sitting there and I, I found a cord, I plugged it into an amp. I started being like a little engineer on my own and I got that 808 drum machine sitting there. And I found a cord, I plugged it into an amp, I started being like a little engineer on my own and I got that 808 drum machine to work.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And no one was in the guy's house, I was just waiting for him to show up. And I started making beats and it was like, oh my God. Like if I did nothing else when I met this music producer, the guy, Morrie Starr, who discovered New Edition, I would have been happy. Like I got to make beats on an 808 drum machine. The first beat I made, Irie Starr, who discovered new addition, I would have been happy. Like I got to make beats on an A2A drum machine. The first beat I've made, I replicated Planet Rock, right?
Starting point is 00:35:48 So I just, cause it was an A2A drum machine. See if you could. Yeah, but going back to your previous question about music and getting pulled into it, I had so many, like you said, different musical, different music, so much different musical exposure. And when I met Morrie Starr, I didn't really think about being a singer, but I would break
Starting point is 00:36:05 dance and rap. I actually rapped. That's how I won him over. I did like a freestyle rap in the room. And he had to be like a white rapper in 1984. That was that was not very common. Right. And so and then, you know, he gave me notes to sing.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I wasn't tone deaf. I hit all the notes, you know, and he was like, all right, let's do this. And you know, it's there were, all right, let's do this. And you know, it's, there were parts of me that wanted to rap more. Like I always wanted new kids to collaborate with rappers. And you know, at the time that didn't make sense to people. And then years later, you see like Justin Timberlake or whomever does, I was like, guys,
Starting point is 00:36:38 I was telling you that 40 years ago, but, but it doesn't matter. It's not a sob story. Water under the bridge. It's yeah, it's just, interesting thing about the music business though is, as much as I was a fan of hip hop and I was in a boy band doing pop songs
Starting point is 00:36:51 with R&B influence, and I have my own little hip hop energy. No, you were the crew of the crew of the guys, you'd be like, that's fine. Well, I was outspoken about what I liked and I loved Public Enemy, was one of my favorite rap groups of all time and stuff, but what I found is people in the industry, they appreciated my love of hip hop,
Starting point is 00:37:13 and all the guys pretty much loved hip hop anyway, it wasn't just me, but they also appreciated us for who we were. It wasn't like, we didn't like great famous rappers and they'd be like oh that's that corny boy band they'd be like oh you guys we love you man like you know and like that's gonna ask that almost like did you get like respect from people you worried like when you guys would meet like a Method Man? Did he be like these guys? I did multiple episodes of Blue Bloods with Method Man
Starting point is 00:37:42 and we we text all the time. It was a funny story with him and I, because his son's name is spelt like mine, and he pocket dials me all the time, and he hangs up, because he's calling his son, and he always writes back, sorry man, I'm calling my son again. I'm like, I'm so glad you're checking in on him.
Starting point is 00:37:58 It's like, we have this funny thing, but no, I always. But that's as adults also, that's like more, I'm almost saying like in the moment, like being like nervous to meet these these heroes and be like oh man they're gonna think we're like singer-dancer kids I every time I would meet someone it would be another pleasant surprise yeah you know it's like I met we met Public Enemy we were with Flavor Flav a few weeks ago at a show and he came out on stage and we brought him on stage at the American Music Awards
Starting point is 00:38:22 in 1991 he came on stage with us. We did this big protesting the Iraq war performance and like we had 30 dancers. JLo was one of the dancers, she was completely unknown. She got to, she met Keenan Ivory Wayans that night. For a living color, yeah, for the fly girls. And next thing you knew she was a fly girl. So, so yeah, so like the first time we met Flavor Flav, though we were reminiscing with him,
Starting point is 00:38:43 like he literally remembered. He said we were doing a show in San Francisco was new kids salt and pepper public enemy I think digital underground all all hip-hop groups and new kids, which that's how we started We did tours all around the country usually with hip-hop groups when you guys were unknown when we were unknown Yeah, we were just starting to try to find our way like we literally toured with JJ fad We did West Coast tours. We just- Did you guys never go out with new edition?
Starting point is 00:39:07 Never. Never. That's interesting. That's the bucket list. Yeah, I was gonna say, that seems like that would have been the perfect launching. It will happen at the perfect time.
Starting point is 00:39:18 That's the plan, correct? That's the plan of Maurice Star was to make white new edition. Well, yeah. I think his plan was, having grown up in the era he grew up in, he saw the Jackson Five come out, saw how successful they were,
Starting point is 00:39:31 and then he saw the Osmonds come out and saw how successful they were. So I think for him, it was, him in new addition had a falling out, and he was like, what do I do next? And it was like, well, I can't do another new addition. Like, not topping that. It was like, I'll do a new Osmonds.
Starting point is 00:39:48 That was really his mindset. Yeah. Did you know you can dance right away? Or did they have to show you that you can dance? No, no, I came in, that was my audition. Like me and Mark were doing windmills and backspins and Mark was spinning on his head. Maurice Starr told the story of,
Starting point is 00:40:07 as I said, Mark quit. It was Mark and I were the only two members of New Kids on the Block for the first five months and then he quit, right? So he didn't like going to singing lessons. He just wanted to run around with his friends and do dumb stuff. And I wanted to go to the studio and make music. So I remember Maurice used to always say though, when Mark quit, he'd be like, damn. He was like, with every head spin, I was going one million, two million, three million. Like he just, he was like, this little kid's gonna make us a fortune. And Mark quit and it was just me, right?
Starting point is 00:40:35 So yeah, I think, you know, I grew up in the music business, really. I grew up learning in recording studios, learning. And it's still a process that I'm still learning. I'm still growing, I'm still discovering new things. I'm still, I've learned now as an actor has made me a better performer and a better singer, right? All this acting all these years,
Starting point is 00:40:55 I perform songs more now than I did. Back then it was like, yeah, let me just sing the part. Now it's like, no, let me- Stage comfort in general. Let me act the part. Let me sing this song with an intention, right? and give it a purpose instead of just like singing the words as I wrote them Or as someone else wrote them. Are you still loving it this touring? I love it. Yeah, I love it It's you able to bring the family and stuff. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah, as much as we can Jenny and I both work a lot, but it's the whole second incarnation of new kids and I both work a lot, but it's the whole second incarnation of new kids, um, new kids on the block with all the original members. Of course, there's no like replacements or anything. People ask that sometimes, but no. Um, it any wood looks exactly the same, but he always looked 35. So when he was 15, he was 35 and now he's still excited. When all the girls like the boys and the thing, like whenever a girl was into Danny wood, you're like, Oh you got dad issues or something
Starting point is 00:41:47 He was always jacked he's still jacked. Yeah. No, I say he looks the same because he always looked like he always looked 35 I'm in good shape. That guy is in an incredible Hulk shape constantly But you know, it's like being able to do you just said you 47, right? So like every time I walk on stage it's literally like I can't believe they're still screaming they're still supporting us they still I still love doing it and it's really like being able to go back in time with what you know now you know also how from up above lucky that you guys like stopped for the years and then came back right
Starting point is 00:42:26 after P Diddy. How fantastic was that? You got the missed leapfrog that completely. We leapfrogged a lot of things. Not just him. We leapfrogged a lot of things. And yeah, look, it's all been a higher power at work, man. Honestly, it's a, if you think about it, like my,
Starting point is 00:42:46 my childhood was spent in a house with nine kids. My grandmother lived in our basement. My mother and father were fighting all the time. Everybody was running away and getting in trouble and, you know, alcohol and drugs were everywhere. And when my parents split up, my role in the family became to bring everyone together and try to just keep everyone happy.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And I'm talking about when I was 11, right? That just became my role. I was planning the holidays like, all right, Christmas Eve, you be at mom's house at eight o'clock. I'm telling my 21-year-old siblings, no, no, you're not going to the bar with your friends. You're gonna be at dad's at nine o'clock. All right, well, let's go.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And I learned then how to bring people together and have a good time and make us all feel better about in tough times. And I look at what I'm doing right now, that's what I'm doing for a living. I get 15,000 people together with my band. I plan these crazy events with our manager and we put on these shows and these tours and literally people get to put all the pain and struggles in their life aside and go have a phenomenal time for a few hours with us. And for those fans who follow me on social media and stuff, they get to do that every time I do a post.
Starting point is 00:44:00 It's literally like, hey, hope this makes you feel better, hope this makes you laugh. It's really like what I learned to survive in my household as a kid is what? Is what has steered me through my life and it's what I do for a living now. Just and now it's work well, I would ask because I after when like I've asked Joey Fatone about this also is like having a Moment years of life where it's like there's, you guys need tank escorts to get to hotels in Japan. And then there comes a year where it starts like coming
Starting point is 00:44:31 like down, where it's not as big. And then the next thing was the sixth sense, would you say? Like the first acting thing that people were like, holy shit, that's a- Yeah, I'd probably say that was a game changer for sure. So the in between, I don't know how much time there was in between there, but did you have like a Oh shit, like how do you get it back to see now to see like as you're older and you guys are touring and filling Arenas still and it's like that feeling when you don't know that's gonna happen. Mm-hmm 20 years from then
Starting point is 00:44:59 Is there like moments where you're like shit like I may have like maybe should have gone to college No for sure and and you think about college, you know, well, I thought about it I was like, alright, do I keep so just to give some context to it and to still answer the question When we kind of decided to take a break as new kids and just go our separate ways. It was 1994 and So was there no fall really was there no like no. No, there was a dip. No, no, it was 1994. So was there no fall really? Was there no like dip down? No, no, there was a dip.
Starting point is 00:45:27 No, no, it was, no, we were dipping. We were in the dip. And Jonathan had left the band, and Jordan was thinking about doing a solo album. And I was like, I'll keep going or not. Like I had produced my brother Mark's records, I had like a number one record that I wrote and produced and hit album I produced.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Donnie D's on the backup. Donnie D was on the back up. Donnie D was on the back up for sure. So I was like, I got a whole bunch of things to do. I'm good. If you guys wanna take a break, I'm good. Cause I'm gonna go do all these things I wanna do. Just including acting and stuff, I'm sorry. I just wanna sidebar before I forget it that the youth today are doomed.
Starting point is 00:46:01 My friend who goes in a row with me to film me is 26, and recently in a restaurant, found out that Marky Mark is Mark Wahlberg. And I'm like, that's crazy. That's a crazy thing to not know. I was driving with this kid who's, his brother is a roadie for new kids. And so now he's like,
Starting point is 00:46:22 hey, can you help my brother with some odd jobs and stuff? yeah brother he's 18 and I'm like I'm playing I'm listening to Sirius XM I'm think I'm listening to Rock the Bells radio no he said while while West by Kumo D comes on and I'm like you know this is and he was like no I said you ever hear this song and he goes no. I said, you ever hear this song? And he goes, no. And I said, you probably heard Will Smith's version from the movie Wild Wild West. And he goes, what? I was like, you never saw the movie Wild Wild West? I mean, it wasn't a very good movie,
Starting point is 00:46:56 but I was like, you know that movie. He was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I realized even that. He doesn't know the remake. Even that he wasn't born yet. He don't even know the remake. I Don't even know if he knows who will Smith is like these kids. It's so you have kids. I do Did you how old are they? 31 and 23 and my stepson is now 22 Wow
Starting point is 00:47:22 my daughter's 22 and My stepson is now 22. Wow. My daughter's 22 and almost like through osmosis or just thank God it just happened. I didn't think growing up that she was picking up anything I was kinda putting in her like music wise. And then she just like hit like 18, 19 and then it wasn't lame to admit she liked the things
Starting point is 00:47:40 and now she has such a knowledge of music. I'm so appreciative of that. That's a scary thing. How much people have no context of history of anything. It's true, and sometimes it's okay, and sometimes it's a head scratching. But just to answer your Joey Fatone question, sorry, because I go off the rails sometimes.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Oh, me too. Yeah, I like it. Listen, I'm all about it. Just dangle a conversation in front of me and I'm following it. But in 94, when we broke up, I thought I was the new kid most prepared for this. I was like, I'm producing records.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I'm like, I'm on fire right now. You guys, I produced a good portion of the last album we did before the breakup. And the producers were Donnie Wahlberg, Teddy Riley, Nara to Michael Walden. you know, it's like, yeah, I'm in that class, like I'm making records, guys. Not that level of Teddy Riley, forgive me for saying that, I didn't mean it that way, or Nara De Michael Walden.
Starting point is 00:48:34 But like I was doing it. You're working, so you know, you have the net. Yes, but the group was officially broken up. I walked into the bathroom of my house, I looked in the mirror and I realized it was the first time since the age of 14 I wasn't in the band. I wasn't waking up as a member of that band
Starting point is 00:48:52 with that goal to look forward to. Even when I was the only guy in the band, I knew every day I'm like, I'm making records with Morrie Starr. I'm doing this. This is my life. You didn't think it would strike you, but it did. It struck me and I looked in the mirror
Starting point is 00:49:03 and I realized I was literally, since the day we got famous, part of me didn't evolve. So part of me did, I traveled the world, I became successful, I learned about things and experiences and places I never thought I would ever experience or come to know in my lifetime. And at the same time, emotionally, something hadn't evolved.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Like I didn't go through things that people were going through at that age. 18 to 22, college years, that was gone. I missed those. Well, just normal social activity where everyone's in the same playing field. You've been the king in every room since you were 15. I wanted to go to Puerto Rico for the weekend.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I didn't know how to book a ticket. Someone did it for me every time I ever did it. I didn't know what to do. I didn't, like, book a ticket. Someone did it for me every time I ever did it. I didn't know what to do. I didn't, like, there were just so many things I didn't know how to do it. Like, yeah, it was like, shit, man. And so the real point of the question was-
Starting point is 00:49:57 That's what I feel, if Christine ever leaves me, it's like, we have to do an Amazon order, I go, that I don't even know where to begin doing that. Exactly, exactly. We get in these habits of not, some people lose their minds and become entitled and you know, and lose touch with reality. I thought I did a real good job of staying
Starting point is 00:50:16 in touch with reality until there was no more new kids. And I was like, okay, I'm not ready for reality. I had to reenter and and go through a process and Fortunately before we reunited and I think most of my bandmates would say the same I got to grow up I got to struggle I got to worry Am I ever what am I gonna do next? Am I ever gonna if I want to stay in this industry? Is there anything am I good? Can I be successful the way I was? Can I be successful as an actor? I started that process of auditioning
Starting point is 00:50:46 and trying to get in movies and stuff like that. You know, will I end up, you know, I knew a guy who used to produce big records and now he was doing like the background music on Sports Center. I was like, maybe I could do that. You know, maybe I can make beats. Like it's, there's a time when you don't know
Starting point is 00:51:01 what's gonna happen next. And look, I got in touch with reality about, okay, well maybe it doesn't have, I don't have to be famous and successful anymore. Maybe I can go to college and learn other things. Fortunately now I can afford to go to college. I can do certain things, right, that I couldn't do when I was 18 because I'd been successful.
Starting point is 00:51:19 But you batter on the idea of just regular life? Yes, it happened. And even when I was doing movies, I started, I'd get a movie part and then I wouldn't get nothing for like eight months and I'd do something else and it was like, hey man, like, I don't know, maybe I was gonna move to a small town and just live.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Like, and I don't know what career I'm gonna find, but I'll find something that can support, you know, I mean, I had money, it wasn't like I was destitute or anything like that, but that's also like a cloud that hangs over your head too, I'm sure for a lot of people. It's like, cause you don't wanna be that guy that was like really successful and now like you're like on the cover of every newspaper
Starting point is 00:52:00 in the country cause you went bankrupt, right? It was like, it was- For losing your mind or doing crazy shit. Yeah, and I remember, I remember in 1990, I think it was 90 or 91, I was running to the airport. I was going to LA to do something, and I'm running through the Boston airport, and I get to the gate and the gate closed,
Starting point is 00:52:17 and they were like, you missed the flight. I know what I was doing. For the listeners who know New Kids, I'll say exactly what I was going to do. I was going to record my voiceover for the Indiana who know new kids I'll say exactly what I was going to do I was going to record my voice over for the Indiana Jones thing. I did in the new kids Universal studio special it was this big TV special we did and I was running to the airport to go to LA to do my voice Over the door closed they wouldn't let me get on the plane. I was like the plane's still there. They were like, yeah
Starting point is 00:52:40 It's too late. I'm like, but I'm one of the new kids. They're like, yeah too late No, that's the worst. Yeah Work while I'm walking away from the gate And this guy looks at me and holds up the front page of the Boston paper the Boston Herald and he says Why don't you have your own plane and it's me? my face next to Madonna Oprah Winfrey, and somebody else, and it says new kids number one on the Forbes list.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So my face is on top of Oprah at the peak of Oprah, and you know, all these, I mean, it's crazy. You should have been like, because I'm a straight white male, and that's what happens in this country to people like us. No, no, I just, I was like, shit. I didn't assume that's what you said. No, no, it's not, no.
Starting point is 00:53:31 What I thought instantly was, wow. It could be a long fall from that perch. Sure. You know, it was like, why is my face next to them? Like, it was like, got to really manage myself carefully because, you know, also, yeah, we were very successful, but it was also divided by five divided by Maurice Star, who was a part of the equation and managers and agents and lawyers.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And it's like, I'm sure it wasn't all purpose, probably people that fucked you guys over and shit like that. And fortunately, none of those guys in our inner circle, you know, our managers were great. Mori star was great Love him and owe him You know so much so much. Yeah, I mean he believed in me and you know when no one else in the world did Pacing outside early want you to go. No, no, we're good. We're chatting away I'm if you gotta go I gotta go. No I got a male. Well, I was just gonna say it was it didn't like Drive me, but I definitely you know, I remember like VH1 used to always have where are they now?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah rock stars and it was I was like the guy from like Skid Row or something was like putting up billboards like when you roll them like we're like rolling paper I was like, yeah, I can't do that, man. I can't be that. I can't do that. I gotta keep going, keep working, and I will find my way to what I'm supposed to do. It's funny that you were out of the spotlight for a while,
Starting point is 00:54:55 and then when you come back, it's the Sixth Sense part, and everyone's like, what has this motherfucker been through? And you're like, it's a character, man. It's like you're playing like a lunatic with like white lips. Arguably the most important character in the movie. Yeah, I thought it was on paper. When I read the script I was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:14 and when I got the part that I didn't even audition, they just gave it to me. I'm like, no one will hire me in Hollywood. Now you're hiring me, I'm 30. You're hiring me to play a 15 year old junkie who's out of his mind. He was 115 pounds and a- Right, right.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I don't know, Night Shyamalan had the sixth sense when he cast me for sure. But I lost so much weight and was going through this crazy process to prepare for the movie. I hid in a park. I was in a park one night and I said, I'm gonna go out and like, just be the guy. I was in Philadelphia in Rittenhouse Square Park
Starting point is 00:55:42 and I ran and hid under some bushes. Like my friend was with me, we were like rehearsing the lines and he's like, hey, I'll just be your friend and you're Vincent the character. And I'm like, and in my mind I was like, I wouldn't know if I have a friend or if he's a ghost. I ran, right? So I ran and hid under these bushes
Starting point is 00:55:58 and now I'm under the bushes like emaciated, like look like shit, smell like shit. I hadn't showered in a month. Like I was fully immersed in getting ready for this movie. And I'm like, now I can't come out. Because if I come out crawling from this bush, there's a cop, beat cop walking through the park.
Starting point is 00:56:14 If he sees me, he's gonna be like, what in the hell are you doing coming out from under the bush? And then if he realizes who I am, I look like a mess. He's gonna be like, this is what happened to Donnie Wahlberg. The ultimate fall. The ultimate fall. No, it's the character.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Mm-hmm. But you know what? It helped me with the character because it made me more scared. I stayed under the bush for like four hours. And then when it was like four in the morning, I crawled out. And I was so terrified, I actually felt like the character must feel like hiding from ghosts. I love how many people possibly just walked by and had no idea. It goes, hey, in that bush right there,
Starting point is 00:56:45 Donnie Wahlberg emaciated and smelled like shit. Yeah, well after a while I got a little comfortable, like I took off my belt, I said, now let me pretend I'm shooting up heroin and see what it, so I actually went through the act of pretending to shoot up heroin, I didn't have any heroin, of course, and no syringe, I had nothing for those listening.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I don't want this to go the wrong way, but I literally said, let me feel what it would feel like to take my belt, turn a kid, see some veins and pretend this is what I have to do to medicate myself to survive from what it feels like to feel ghosts. And it really got me ready for the movie and it was almost an accident that happened. When you stand across from Bruce Willis
Starting point is 00:57:24 and that you've done so much in music at that point that Probably there's very few people star, you know making you starstruck in music anymore and not even so much starstruck Because I'm sure meeting Bruce Willis isn't that crazy of a thing more like you're in his arena now Like you're acting like up with him. Is that terrifying? That's scared that make you feel like that on stage first time again or first big show jitters? A little bit, I would say more like this. He was really good at making everybody feel at ease.
Starting point is 00:57:53 He was just phenomenal. And so we did like a table read about five weeks before filming. And I was still like walking around 180 pounds, like, you know, working out working out and I we did the read and then they they put us in groups director said you go sit with Bruce and Olivia Williams and we're gonna talk about your scene and so I'm sitting there with Bruce and he was like cool he was excited he was like this is gonna be good you're gonna be great and you know I'm like I got a
Starting point is 00:58:22 lot of work to do but I said but, but Bruce, I have an idea. And this could have went really bad. And he was like, what's your idea? I said, well, I think the character is supposed to be what will happen to the young kid. So my character was Bruce's patient when he was Haley Joel Osmond's age. That's what we learned in the movie.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And this is why Bruce is so dedicated to Hailey Joel Osmond is because he doesn't want Hailey Joel to grow up like my character. He realizes by what my character says to him that he was an old patient and he failed as my doctor and didn't help me stop seeing dead people. So I said, Bruce, it's written like the kids got on like goth clothes and he's, you know, got like just dark,
Starting point is 00:59:06 like a dark rock and roll t-shirt and like tattoos and this and that. A little obvious. Yeah, it just seemed on the nose a little bit. And I was like, if my character's coming to end your life and end his life, why is he hiding behind these clothes and bracelets and you know, all this like stuff? Why don't I just take it all off
Starting point is 00:59:24 and just be naked in the bathroom when you discover me? I was full naked. And he was like, that's crazy. I think that'd be awesome. That makes total sense. And so I was like, okay, wow, well he likes my idea. You should have leaned back and been like, yeah, go tell him for me.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Right, no, well the director came in to the room a few minutes later and Bruce goes, hey, Donnie got a great idea. And I was like, wow, it's nice, it was nice in that moment to know that I wasn't crazy and that I actually had a good idea and he loved the idea. And then the director loved it. So that was part of the reason I went to,
Starting point is 01:00:01 had they not, I ended up not being naked, I wore underwear, because they wanted a PG-13 rating, which they didn't tell me till the day I showed up to film. You would have done it nude. I would have been fully naked. I didn't think that one through, man. I didn't think that went through. You're gonna starve for five weeks and be naked.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Things, your body starts to eliminate functions. That would have made your wiener look even bigger, probably. No, it would have been the worst. It would have been like getting out of cold water. A malnourished wiener? It was freezing on set. My wiener look even bigger probably. No, it would have been the worst. It would have been like getting out of cold water. A malnourished wiener? It was freezing on set. My wiener needs a banana. It was freezing on set.
Starting point is 01:00:30 That would have been malnourished. Yeah, yeah, it was like we were in Philadelphia. It was really cold weather and I would have totally been so malnourished. Like I didn't realize like bodily function stopped working. Your body, when you're, I was starving myself. I would go without food for like 24 days. My body would shut down.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And so, yeah, I don't know what would happen, but fortunately they made me wear underwear and they tried to make me wear the clothes after all. And I said, no, I just lost 41 pounds in five weeks. I'm gonna wear something but be mostly naked. They said you could wear underwear. And that was it. That was the compromise. I wanna talk talk so they're literally like waving outside like
Starting point is 01:01:07 where they're landing planes. There's a traffic window we gotta take it now or you're gonna walk ten miles to your next interview. No, Donnie is I hope you get to come back soon man and come on the show when especially when Bobby's here old Boston guys you guys will have a blast. Bobby Kelly! I'm going to be in, though, I'm doing the Wilbur Theater in December, man. Oh, really? I'm so excited for that Mike's Roast Beef.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I'm going to check it out because I go up and back and forth to Celtics games, so I'll look for you. Oh, please do, man. Yeah, and it's great. Season 14, the final season of Blue Bloods, airing the final 10 episodes starting Friday, October 18th, 10 p.m. Do not miss it. It's such a great show, such a long running show.
Starting point is 01:01:48 That's a dream to get something like that, I bet. That you get to do this that long and enjoy your cast. It's the bonfire.

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