The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Smallville w/Mike Finoia & Josh Adam Meyers

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

Best known for her role on Smallville and becoming a sex slave wrangler for cult leader Keith Raniere, Alison Mack is now free to become a podcaster. Mike Finoia and Josh Adam Meyers are on hand to d...iscuss cults and the NEXIVM story. | Mike is co-hosting for Bobby who calls in from court to let everyone know the verdict in his case from the 1990's. | Jesus has become hip again and Jay tries to understand why. For Mike's news and dates go to @mikefinoia on all socials. For all the latest on Josh- @joshadammeyers. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early.  Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now, the Bonfire with Big J. O'Kerson and Robert Kelly. I have a new studio role, but Christine's not back to hear it. You want to tell us first? I think we're going to have to have some sort of a demerit system if you're not back from the bathrooms when the show comes back on. Like a tardy bell? Like in school? Just something. I feel like it's very lax over here at the bonfire. I think we've been taken for pushovers. What do you think? What is it? Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:00:30 A lack of respect for me Is that what it is? Over here at the bonfire, a.k.a. at you personally. Dude, I'm so excited to see Onyx tonight. Oh, Christine's here. She's coming in with water. We're just going to try to make it seem like it's a thing, but...
Starting point is 00:00:49 Thank you so much for the coffee, Christine. Thank you, Don. What I do? Appreciate it. Thank you. Got to have... Commercial breaks have to... Everything's got to be done in the... Commercial breaks.
Starting point is 00:01:01 It's distracting to the show and people are coming in and out while the show is going. How many you take, though, now? How many, how much? Thank you. Out of the two hours of the block, how much. We take a break in an hour in? You take a break for what, five minutes?
Starting point is 00:01:13 What's that first one, though? Four. Four minutes. Then there's another one? Well, that's the end of the show. So you end early, right? Forty five, 40 minutes later, so. Maybe come back and say thanks, and that's it, right?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Maybe come back? Nope. Every so often. Not anymore? Nope. we go as far as we can go before we don't have to take any more commercials because it's stupid I'd rather do two big chunks than keep breaking it up you consider yourself a benevolent dictator or do you like to try to make a nice like you know give everybody rope and then I feel like I
Starting point is 00:01:44 read like a poon or something you ain't a poon I don't think anybody thinks you're gonna even complain I go hey this doesn't this makes the show not as good and then everyone's kind of like tough shit it's more like a mook than a poon he's really like a mook that's a good mood not A poon. Poon's too, too harsh. I'm a mook. It's my fault. You think you're a moot?
Starting point is 00:02:03 I'm a fucking mook. Should I start dressing for power more? Maybe I just start dressing up for work. Dude, if you wear a Rob Zombie hoodie over a shirt and tie? That's the problem. I was going to say like a quarter zip with a bonfire logo and maybe like some nice collar coming out. It is my own fault in that regard.
Starting point is 00:02:19 It's hard to be a boss wearing like fucking funny hoodies every day. Do you own power khakis? No. I don't even own a pair of power khakis. Have you designated? a pair of like house shoes now that you have the house like are you wearing like uh you got yourself some slippers or like some easy phone outside sneakers for like walking the pup no no no always the same shit i've had a pair of flip flops or slides and uh that's it slippers some ugg slippers all right so
Starting point is 00:02:50 fireline slippers yeah but i've always had these things you don't wear them outside though no not really i'll throw on some old shitty sneakers to go outside let's get back Back to you being a mook. Too much sand. Huh? I don't think you're a mook. I think we got to... Hey, thanks, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I don't think you're a mook there, Jay. Hey, I don't think you know mook. Anywho, to go back to the original thing we were talking about, Allison Mack, the Nexium cult, she is out of jail now. She was in jail for a while. And then... She's not ugly. 18 months of a three-year sentence?
Starting point is 00:03:23 She did 18 months of a three-year sentence? I think so. She's going to start a podcast, and I think... I think probably start trying to do. She's probably a long, like a lifelong cunt. I don't think you're going to unfix. You're not going to fix that. Wants a cunt.
Starting point is 00:03:36 You're not going to undo this girl's dumb twatness. And she was also like one of the ringleaders, keep in mind. Yeah, I think she's. Now she'll play that she's going to play victim for sure, I think more. My guess would be. Maybe she's going to be like, yo, I was a fucking piece of shit. But I don't think. She's probably going to say those things.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But I'm telling you, she's going to be like, well, I was used to do these things. things but she was like part of the thing that people would get like burned into them branded how did you feel when I branded your pussy yeah yeah yeah it was like her pussy branding yeah but I'm saying it would be it's part
Starting point is 00:04:14 her brand it was like A.M and R and K R his initials and her initials how big of a brand are you putting on a pussy not a pussy like you know like where you get like cherries next to your snacks talking like certified angus beef like a nice like lip stamp there you go see you see it's
Starting point is 00:04:32 alison mac and keith reneery what a great logo though they gotta give it up for it i mean that's like that's merch right there dude i disagree i disagree too much going on it's like sleep token i i but it's too much it's like it's too much going on and who's that that's that's one of the stupid that's the lady yeah that's the that's the dumb ass i think is she the one who had the, isn't she the one who had the husband? The stupid husband? He had like a dumb name? And the dumb husband was, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I think so. It's a different couple, though. It was two couples. And I don't think this is the couple where the husband, like, sat there idly while he fucked his wife. I don't believe in anything enough to be branded. You don't have to join the black fraternity?
Starting point is 00:05:13 You do think of somebody fuck your wife, though. I could be talked into that. I could be talked into that. She was cute. But I ain't burning. No, she was an actress back in the day, too, but in nowhere. She wanted to be like the girl
Starting point is 00:05:25 from smallville you know that was how they bring them in they get they get quasi celebrity imagine they would have gotten like judith light god wanting to be a fucking actor the best people go through to be an actor is so gross no one does that to become like you know the best plumber
Starting point is 00:05:40 no absolutely to be the highest plate plumber you just don't start fucking sucking in fucking old gross men they're like what's that what's that brand oh that's bob johnson he was he's my plumbing teacher teddy uh teddy zettouzaka
Starting point is 00:05:54 that's TV here's my sales trainer what is that he goes that's uh oh teddy busakis branded me part of a sex cult thing you see but uh since then like my social numbers have been up though I get weird packages
Starting point is 00:06:10 yeah cult leader's initials but go back to herst thing that's what she's going to do so alice and max out and she's saying what she's going to do Jacob before I read I just pitterpagged through all this I don't remember but if she's expressing remorse about it. But is she expressing remorse?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Or is she doing like a I believe so? Oh, we were railroaded kind of thing. Did she get released like just because they were like, all right, it's going to be three years but you only have to serve 16? Or is it like she got paroled? Well, no. It said that she's cooperating with Oh, to bring him down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Can me tell you something. That's how she cut her sentence. She's 43 and it says she just got married after being released from jail. She's married already. And I'll tell you this. Someone for everyone. No, no, no. ask for every seat listen this guy's playing it right I know we're all going like one he's probably a weirdo because he wants to be with a woman who's involved in something like
Starting point is 00:07:04 this he's a star fucker he's maybe we're all assuming gross and ugly and she needs somebody in her life to like help her at this point so she'll take whatever um really what it is is he just got himself a fucking dog because this girl you can be like hey I'm getting bored of your pussy find six or seven chicks to come over here and fucking eat your pussy while I jerk off and then I'll jerk off on them and then they can suck my balls a little bit hey listen you're down for anything
Starting point is 00:07:30 so if you don't want to do it and she'll be like sure so should we just order dinner then or also too he's getting in on Bitcoin early here because she's going to be like she's going to take them down she's going to do this that there's going to be a podcast a book it's down it's already down
Starting point is 00:07:48 but he's going to be like he's there to kind of like probably reap some of those benefits she's not going to get much of those she could do she has one maybe six figure offer interview in-depth interview in her you think that's it no one cares this podcast but i i wouldn't listen to her first full episode i'm getting the cliff notes on whatever the fuck this chick does who cares you were dummies out in the woods you let a guy fucking who looked like i mean what a dildo this guy was wearing short shorts and a headband playing fucking volleyball in the middle of the night he looked like my art teacher in high school how long till she's doing porn i hope quickly they fought to be on his team what that's the guy yeah
Starting point is 00:08:29 keith reneery i think i thought bob ballaban i think i bought ecstasy off of him at fucking jones beach he sure did oh captain morgan over here a pan food yeah fucking rex brown holy shit dude he looks like a kyle mooney character doesn't he look just like well the one was was robbie hoffman playing him yeah that's funny um but no the guy's a fucking dildo but he just here's what you do you get people out in the woods you give him some sense i think one thing you do too is also you don't have to worry that's a big thing you take off people's plate too you know we have this what is it they have like come up to albany we own basically an apartment complex right complex well that was like the oregon yeah yeah it's like we have we have we have this complex not even like food i think
Starting point is 00:09:16 you start, but no, I guess it was sort of communal, in the sense. It's all inclusive. It's the whole thing. It's like a commune. It's like you don't really have to worry about anything at all. Come to all of me. We got coupons for discounts on chicken tenders. It's like playing a casino gig. You know what I mean? You got everything you need. You got everything you need in there, dude.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I know, it's the creepiest thing about a casino gig? You know what cult, I feel like is back in a big way? Is the Jesus cult? Christianity? Aren't you, Christine? Jesus is back. People are loving Jesus. Jesus. Jesus is trending jay yeah i don't think he's ever really gone it's just like now the now the well maybe not
Starting point is 00:09:51 in your heart i mean the charlie kirk thing though like really like hyped all that shit up with the lady coming out and everything's like a mission from christ himself yeah but even before that lately it's just a lot of these young kids dude a lot of these fucking and charlie kirk died and now he's got to sit back while everything he hated a stupid bitch running a company is doing i thought he wouldn't have to stay home ladies are supposed to stay home and take care of the kids and no blacks I don't see any of this happening. It's ridiculous. Do you guys have Jesus in your life?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Are you Jesus people? Are you religious? Do you go to church? None of that. Does your family go to church? And are they throwing it at you? Not at this point. I've seen a few friends recently that I've been like, yeah, every Sunday I'm going to church now.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And it's just like, really? Like, I've done coke with you. Very weird. Jesus is back. There's a church. Rogan's going to church, but that's just getting the fucking carbs with the wafer. There's a, there's a, there's a good carbs. There's a good carbs.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He doesn't nearly plan. There's a church in Los Angeles called Mosaic. It's on LaBrayan. It's like a young person's like hip church, the one that like Bieber and all of them would go to. And you would just see it. You'd drive by and they'd have these signs all over Los Angeles around it. But they would do things outside. Like you can see like gorgeous Christian girls and like hip young guys.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And they would try to like bring. And they would, I mean, I wouldn't know how big it would get. But it was like, I was like, look at these fucking homos like praising Jesus. and this fucking, it's enormous now in Los Angeles. Well, I think what's been sold right now is like, oh, you can, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. And I think the hard sell is, you go in the heaven. As long as you say you care about Jesus and apologize for anything you do or know that it's wrong, you're fine. So it's easy now to be like, I, it's like an identity.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I'm super stoked on Jesus. No, I still go to clubs every night and just try to fuck random pigs. But like, it doesn't matter. As long as at Sunday morning. Sunday morning, though, I'm going to go to... Unless I get really good pussy, then I'll probably skip church then. But I am going to wear this gold cross. I am going to wear that.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Mullets, mustaches, dip, and Jesus. That's what these kids are into these days. All these young bros, they're all Jesus-y. And they're like, they're very... Well, I think that's just the young kids. It's like the conservative movement. It's like in fashion, the trad wife things in fashion. And that just goes hand in hand with Christianity.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It's like the same. like conservative may as well you may as well say a conservative christian if you're talking about it's so fucking funny that like jesus is like a fucking he's back he's back in pog form but you want to know what's funny is that like if jesus came back you wouldn't even know there's like a i jesus all over the place and shit oh really yeah yeah always white though my dad got deep into a uh a little like a chapter of a thing where it was all about like you're that stoked on jesus the visions oh Oh, he's super stoked on Jesus. But, like, the visions of, like, Mary would appear to, like, people in, like, Fatima and Medjugoria.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And it was only, like, four or five, like, kids could see Jesus, could see the Virgin Mary, like, in this field. And the Virgin Mary told these kids. I assume she was fat and ugly. She was a virgin, you see. She told these kids when the world was going to end, but, like, they weren't allowed to, like... Tell anybody? Tell anybody, unless you, you know... Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Subscribe to the Patreon. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean... I'm the feeling that you smash that like button. Spacked that like button if you want to know when the world's going to end. Black Lou? Yes, we have a wonderful call from a Robert Kelly on line one. Bobby?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Oh, Bobby from prison? Yeah. Bobby? Bobby? This is my one phone call, and I'm calling Black Lou. Do you know anybody in here that can protect me? I'll pay some money on your commissary. I will. I'll come there and put my dick against the glass
Starting point is 00:13:45 so you can feel the heat. How did it go? Are you out of prison? I didn't go to prison. Nice. I supposedly had a hookup. My friend who's a cop was like, you're all taking care of, don't say anything, everything's taken care of. And I showed up, it was a $250 fine.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So it was not taken care of at all. It was just exactly what would have happened if you didn't tell this guy at all. I probably had $260 $5 You already went Oh, this Tuesday It was $250 Well we're glad
Starting point is 00:14:21 You're not in the clink I was very worried about you Yeah And then Because Max's football game was tonight Which I was excited for weeks to see Nice See my son play football
Starting point is 00:14:31 This is the time to watch And play football Because I don't know if you know If you know this when he goes to college He will be fucked by the team doctor I've watched Eight documentaries on this happening now Pick a school.
Starting point is 00:14:41 The doctor's fucking the male students. Yeah, they're going to learn somehow. True that. Bobby, how cool that Max gets to go. Yeah, my dad's coming from court to watch our football game today. That's a cool. That's a badass moment for a kid. Well, Mike, it would have been cool if the football game was tonight.
Starting point is 00:15:01 The football game's tomorrow night. When you can now, can't go. Well, my wife, we went to the field and we're sitting there and they're like, Oh, it's a game's tomorrow night, tonight's practice. You went to the field. I went to the field with my wife. Ready to watch a game. Ready to watch the game with my coffee and my little pad I put on the cold bench.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You can't get mad at him. Dude, he thought he's going to be going away for at least five years. Well, hang on. Who are you mad at here? Who made this whiff? Was this a dawn whiff or a max whiff? It's a dawn whiff. It's always a dawn whiff.
Starting point is 00:15:37 He's 12. Ooh. she was sitting with you let me ask you this and then talk to me shoot me from the hip here Bobby really really really would she say something
Starting point is 00:15:49 or go to the cops if you just popped her one no don't would take it and fight back nice okay you know what I like that I like that by her it does it would suck if she wins decisively well you did not if she wins if she gets me and I fall
Starting point is 00:16:05 and hurt my ankle and then she crawls up on top of me and I'm in pain and she's like I got you now really i think the worst thing would be is if you hurt yourself she sort of hurt you but you hurt yourself and go down and then she leaves you alone like she takes mercy on you like she goes like oh my god she goes oh my god get up
Starting point is 00:16:21 what are you doing and she just walks away she just walks away and she goes here fucking here's some neo sporn put this on your knees you fucking lady boy if he whacked her around at practice and they called the cops on him he would have spent the night in jail then he gets to go to max's game
Starting point is 00:16:39 tomorrow from jail, which makes it even cooler for Max. My dad got let out. I don't know if you hear Mike, but there's a quick pivot. It's a smart move. Go right now. If you're still at the field, hit dawn. Go to jail tonight. So tomorrow you come out of jail.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I'm going to hit it tonight. And if this doesn't work out, one of you guys will get me, right? Absolutely. One of us will get you for sure. But Bobby, I'm thinking you better popper pretty soon. So here's the thing. It's change of shift times. What you're going to catch is you're not going to end up getting out tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:17:09 and you're going to be having a ride an extra day or so you're going to get out too late for Max's game. You're going to be at early tomorrow, so I'd say just slugger now. Yeah, there's a fine line between being the cool dad that got out of jail or the dad that missed the game because he's in jail. Sure. Make sure the cops see you, by the way, because here's what you don't want to be. The guy who got away with punching his wife in the face in front of all the kids
Starting point is 00:17:30 and then showing up the next day. Everyone's talking about that. I am going to miss dinner in jail, so I'm going to be hungry all my. This is a pattern with Don. She did this with the Louis C.K. assistant wedding also. Oh, my. Bobby. This is not the first time.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I think she hears dates like one day wrong, always. I think you should cut a finger off. Have you thought about that? Yakuza. Have you thought about small but long-term punishments that whenever she sees them, she'll remember the mistakes she's made? Like half a pinky toe. Yeah, you know what makes people see a lot clearer sometimes?
Starting point is 00:18:06 A glass eye. take a pencil to one of those fresh ones she has fresh one take a pencil to one of them functioning peeper she has and then take it out I'm going to go apply some type of
Starting point is 00:18:19 punishment to Dawn's face I like that and if you don't see me tomorrow night you know you'll know why I understand but I love you guys and hey Mike yes sir Josh did you guys work that concert thing out
Starting point is 00:18:33 when Josh left you by your time oh God Jesus Jesus Christ Christ No, we didn't. Oh, Christ. What are you talking about? Dude, I talked about like a heart-to-heart. I didn't know I was coming to the other concert.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I meant it. There was 15 minutes left in the show. Did he hang up? Is he going? He hung up. He already made the joke at the beginning, too. Good for him. Bobby.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And they just leaves. Hilarious. He hung up. Mother fuck. That's funny. That is funny. When does Allison Mack's podcast start? Ow.
Starting point is 00:19:07 November 10th, I mean, who, did they say who her first guest is or anything? Carrot Top. Yeah, the other, the cast of Smallville. What if it's just a Smallville rewatch-along podcast and nothing to do and sit off? It's nothing to do. She goes, and everyone
Starting point is 00:19:22 keeps calling in, the Discord is asking me questions again about the sex cult. Guys, this is about Smallville. She goes, it's Jake Paul. He's going to be on the first one. I wanted to be the woman that she branded that hot actress, the older actress now. I like that. You call her.
Starting point is 00:19:37 hot than older. Let her know that you're not as interested anymore. Yeah. What's up? No, I was just thinking. I wonder how easy it would be to like just make a cult, like just AI a fucking cult, like right now, just as a test. Just to see, what if we just came up with one really right now and we like AI'd our
Starting point is 00:19:57 leader, right? It wasn't any of us. It was just a dude. And we were able to go. This is like Todd, our leader. Somebody will. This is a time to do it because a lot of people are going through. through shit.
Starting point is 00:20:08 So that's like, this is when you want to get people. That's why Scientology works so well in Hollywood because actors are fucking hearing no all the time and they're a place like we can get them to say yes.
Starting point is 00:20:17 This has been done like in tests before. That was the guy, you know, did you watch that documentary honest liar ever? By the Amazing Randy? Yes, yes. Great documentary.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And, but his big lie he always said because he hated lying and he hated when people used magic to steal money from people by making them think it's, like we're just talking earlier. That was fucking great.
Starting point is 00:20:36 The guy doing, Facebook, like reading your Facebook and then telling you he knows your son died because it's magic. That pisses me off. Right. Well, he was always against that, but his thing, he was like, oh, I was never honest about the fact that I'm gay and I'm dating this guy. But the guy he was dating forever was a guy
Starting point is 00:20:51 he did a social experiment with the years before and did that. Yeah. He just made a thing, he just made an announcement, he just paid for news time and was like this miracle boy who sees Christ and everything is coming and he's got two million followers and he's coming to America and people came to like
Starting point is 00:21:07 see the spectacle of this kid and it was just a kid he was dating like he's like an old queen and it was like a young guy he was dating and he just goes hey will you be this thing? If you found me if I called you one day and was like yeah there's this kid coming and I think he might be like the savior
Starting point is 00:21:22 would you be like you all right dude like do you step in have you had to step in with anybody and go like you're being weird about this fucking thing. Yeah Christine I you're nuts No, but I've had, listen, now, I've had people in my life, like, change from going, like, not religious to, like, religious.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Or vice versa. Black Lou, I think you were, like, sort of, not religious, but you were, like, a God, like, believing person years ago, right? Years ago. Yeah, yeah. For sure. Well, come on. A couple of family deaths. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Some early ones. And then, you know, but I've asked some people go, like, the other way. like nothing and then get like religious and go like the other way too but like Dave Smith's a good example of that Dave Smith's like religious now oh and again by the way you talk about the flip side of like life on things like a couple like deaths that make you feel like that doesn't make sense and then it'll make you get out of it I think Dave because he had like a sick child at one point probably looked and then when his son ended up being okay now you're like well now I oh you know I mean I get that both directions of it like people would have something
Starting point is 00:22:32 but I it's never struck me however lying if I say anytime I pray if you call it praying several times a year but it's pure crisis yeah yeah but you're not praying to Jesus you're just praying you're praying like please don't have cancer please don't no but there's deals if this then I just let me get past this time that I want to get to in life and then I'll take cancer but I mean it's things like just I just need to get from two weeks from now and then and I will willingly accept cancer. Like, let me just get through these two weeks with things being okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And then cancer. Um, so that's praying to something. But it's not one, it's not Jesus. Well, it's not, Chinese Christ. Chinese Christ. When I did birthright, uh, because that's basically, it's not like a, that's not like a cold at all going to, go to Israel, but, but, but. Josh's on birthright.
Starting point is 00:23:25 What the hell? My sister, my sister signed me up for it. Oh, birthright. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't. Habing the gila,
Starting point is 00:23:34 homies. I can just speak gibberish language all throughout here. It sounds like that. And the roll? This lake is salty. But I came back, because I was never bar mitzsche.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I never believed in organized religion, but then I went for birthright, and it was just so much fun being around all these, like, Jewish kids and where I was drinking. Never been bar mitzvahed. I still don't, I even got asked to do an aliyah,
Starting point is 00:23:56 my niece's bat mitzvah, which would have then made me bar mitzvah, but I was like, I don't want to do it, because I just don't. What is that? at me. I would do that. It's like a groupon. I'm not yet. It's a, it's a cut. It's the same thing
Starting point is 00:24:05 with like, if your mom's Jewish, if your mom's Jewish, then you're Jewish. It's like Jews have a lot of like you know, I goes, yeah, no, you makes it, wait a second, is it Tuesday? Oh, if it's Tuesday, yeah, you'll also, you'll also be bar mitzvah. It's two for Tuesday. But I came back. What a Jewish thing. I came back
Starting point is 00:24:21 and was like, Bogo bar mitzvah. Bogobitza. But I came back and was very like into it for a moment and then my buddies were like, you know, because I was like, I think I'm going to join a synagogue and then you just see what the oh but dude that's Sunday's football you're like oh yeah fuck that like I'm not gonna
Starting point is 00:24:37 it's just too much work you know what I mean yeah well I just to me it was just never never pushed on me hard thank God never that's why I said I also don't have like I hate organized religion thing because I didn't do you know I mean like Kurt I do like somebody like Kurt would have like anger towards you have anger
Starting point is 00:24:53 because it's like it caused things in your life it was just not around in my life it all for anyone to give a shit it was never beaten down my name said bar mitzvah i went to two sunday school classes and i was like uh and then when i said i found out that a bar mitzvah everyone was like you should do it because my friends you're going to get lots of money and i was like there's nobody's going to give me lots of money it doesn't exist my party might be embarrassing actually like i'm from south jersey no this is philly it's still
Starting point is 00:25:20 west philly at this point and i'm like it's just not my family's not money people we're going to do this in a house or something or a really cheap kind of haul i'm like so I go, if it's all about that, I don't want to give away my Sundays for something it's not going to really do anything like. You're the only kid that has a barmeister at Roller Haven? Yeah, I would have. Literally, it's like hot dogs and putty cups. Radnor Rolls.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Radner Rolls. Jacob, would you still have sex with Allison Mack? The answer is yes, you would, unquestionably, even though she's done. Would you brand right above your dick for her? No. Yes. No. Jacob.
Starting point is 00:25:58 If it's cleaned immediately with like a. disinfectant and like an alcohol swab so it doesn't get infected. But just you know, that's because A.M. That's her dick. And then K.R. No, no. Just just, just, just
Starting point is 00:26:09 Keith Robinson. Just you. Just you. Just Allison Mack I mean, just the AM. No. You could grow pubs over it. You could grow hair over it. But I like to keep it tidy. Well, then, but then it'll also be a cool little mark right there.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And you go, oh, I got. And then you have a story. You go, oh, listen, I would do it the fucker because I would just be like, oh, isn't that fucking hilarious. Like, you know, I got the brand. I got the nexium brand you get. Well, you know what, too? And if then you grow your hair around it, it would look like a haunted maze from like way above, like a drone shot. The shining. Yeah, the corn maze. I belong to this dingbat. Dingbat. What a great word. I'll tell you what. I'm batting around the ideas I think right
Starting point is 00:26:49 now at Skangfest is getting the Keith Renierian, Allison Mack, tattoos on either side of my dick. Do it. Because it's so fucking funny. Do that. Please, God. It's so fucking hilarious to get that. And he goes, oh, I got mixed up in a little cult thing at one point. Have you gotten Isabella yet? No. You're going to get them before her.
Starting point is 00:27:08 He's getting a little late for Isabella. She's 23. Now it looks like I'm getting her like she's my girlfriend or something. Jay, this, just for the podcast, this actually says that the host is Natalie. Portman. No, I don't know how to say anything. That's a hard name to say.
Starting point is 00:27:23 She's an investigative journalist and it's offering exclusive access to Mac. So the podcast is somebody, I guess. I guess deep diving on her and then also bringing in other people. Ooh, I can see that getting good numbers. Can you roll up a tad? The series promises to dive into the gray zones of influence, accountability, and redemption. So what was your pitch to get these girls to fuck them? Listen.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And do you feel bad about it? There's nothing. There's nothing I love more than, like I said, where people start getting religious and weird after stuff. Yeah. Like, if she comes out and starts laying all that stuff, it's uninteresting immediately. I've always cared about the stories of former junkies and stuff who go, damn, I had a good time with heroin. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Whenever the story's just like, it was evil. Well, because I let the devil into my life. And when you open your mind to devils, devils will come in and take over. Dude, Rick Shapiro, I always said, I remember the hook? My Uncle Mark. Two people who, I assume when got off heroin, whether they had do methadone or whatever, like it was off of it, both of them are people when you talk to them about it. It's not just fucking gloom and doom stories.
Starting point is 00:28:27 My Uncle Mark would be like, you know, you'd say a other thing like, hey, well, did you have to have, like, a gift so fucked up at a party, there was a fight almost, even though it's like something like that, he'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, yeah, yeah, he's like, a bunch of these bikers came, and I was just at my, you know, and he tells it with like, what a neat wild night, huh? Yeah, because it was. And I'm like, good, I believe you're going to stay off it now, because you're not just doing
Starting point is 00:28:50 this phony, like, Satan comes and poisons you in life, and then you are, and your job to turn Satan down. Like, get the fuck out of here. fucking cop out, dumb card you throw, there you go. No, it's Jesus now. I gave my life to Jesus. Dude, if I would have done opiates the night I did
Starting point is 00:29:07 because I stole opiates for my mom because she was there for when I did new faces, if I would have taken those opiates and not give them back to her when she's shamed me in the morning, I would have gotten SNL that year. I would have murdered. I would have been... What a wonderful, wonderful. Such good things happen in my life from opiates. You have in there inside
Starting point is 00:29:25 your brain. That was fantastic. I love that. Dude, dude, I got most of the shit in my career. I'll say this, dude. That's why I'm not getting shit now. If my dad would have fucking picked me up the weekends he said he was going to pick me up, dude, I'd be Pete Davidson. Unprovable. And yet you have to take my word for it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I like it. I would have gotten more than a commercial agent out of fucking new faces. I'll tell you what. I did new faces. I just wore the wrong clothes I thought. And I got MTV's two. What were they wearing? No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah. That's the episode. I got to do, like, I did a talking hit on an MTV2 episode, but I, man, that's the little Josh, that's the little bit of Josh I need me right there, is that it goes, man, if I would have done this, no doubt, I'd be a mega's movie star right now, I don't have any of that in me. Say what you want, opiates made me better. Yeah, I agree, try again. I can't. Let's do them tonight. At onics?
Starting point is 00:30:21 Yeah. Opiates and onics and my daughter? It's going to be so great, dude. And biolizer? fucking him and maybe Tara Patrick's there What if you get weird They're not together anymore
Starting point is 00:30:31 They've been way broken out What opiates would you want to do Me? Yeah Would you want to snort it Shoot it, boot it No, I'll just take it Pop it
Starting point is 00:30:39 Snort it Then snort it's Per 30 snort Yeah but then you're fucking dripping blue goo out your nose I don't know Any of these things We're talking about
Starting point is 00:30:47 How they approach The numbers or what Just taking an oxycontin That's fine sure It's great Now if you were like Zero rep, if you were like, it could be administered to you, and somebody was like, you're dying anyway, so
Starting point is 00:31:00 do you want to try heroin? I'd go, oh, no, give me the good stuff and put it right into the vein. Well, that's Kurt's joke that's hilarious. That's like, fucking, but you want to know what freaks me out? I'll tell you what always got me was an interview, John Farshanti interview, the Peppers. When he's, like, quit the band,
Starting point is 00:31:17 and he's, like, in some hotel room, and he's being interviewed, and he's opening a pack of cigarettes with his weird bony heroin hands and his face is all fucking. Do you remember that interview? that was like I don't ever want to be that to me was like oh see I do see it different I know they I see that I'm scared I know I get I get too I'm scared it's gross what I do what I feel first and
Starting point is 00:31:37 foremost which is bad it's probably a bad thing is that I go he's thin and uh but jettie I go he's thin and it must feel amazing fucking great because this guy knows he was sitting at the fucking table with kings and now he knows he's in a fucking bathtub fully dressed while people are watching him like try not to drop crumbs of crack or heroin out of his fucking tinfoil that he has with like you know teeth missing and broken right delante west when i see those things the player from the NBA who's now like a homeless junkie on the streets same thing i see him and i go damn dude that stuff's going to be so great when i try it yeah i go when i try whatever the fuck they're taking it must be oh look at what you give up everything in your life for it so
Starting point is 00:32:23 i'm not ready for it yet but when i get there Well, just no, boys. When you see me, covered in sores and teeth and I'm wearing one shoe and whatever, no, feels great. Are you covered in other people's teeth? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever's happening. Do you just have a necklace of teeth? I promise you. And I'm going to go like this, like just like the Narcan people.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I'm going to go, don't fucking wake me. That's it. Let me nod, bro. Let me nod. Yeah, I'm supposed to be standing hunched over. You should take a good, deep look at Jerry Garcia. that's a guy who will make you not want to do it. Why?
Starting point is 00:32:57 53 years old, he looked like Santa Claus. He's on stage wearing Haynes Beefy Tea with cigarette burns and hot dog mustard on shit and sweatpants and zip sneakers. I'm going to talk about... I'm talking about when they come inevitably in the next handful years and go, you have fucking stage...
Starting point is 00:33:15 Metathiliaoma. Something higher than stage two, blah, blah, blah. And it's not going to look good and you're not going to get to taking care of the way you're supposed to and insurance, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to go, all right, I'm going to sort all that out tomorrow. I'm going to go try heroin real quick, though. Hold that thought.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Wait a second. Because let me see. If heroin's awesome, I might go, it's already stage three. What are the odds that's coming back down? Not great? I'm just going to ride this part out then, I think. I'm just going to do the H until we're all fucking wrapped. It's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And I'm telling you, I'm leaving it to you guys. make sure the song that I write gets out there. Whatever the lyrics you find next to me written, make sure it's out there. And you find a suitable artist. He wrote, feel, feel, feel, feel my heat. He goes, yeah, he goes, preferably get this to a Sabrina Carpenter type.
Starting point is 00:34:13 What? Jay wrote a song real quick. A long, long time ago, I could still remember how the music used to make me smile. Oh my God, this is Don McLean's American Pop. I think he just rewrote Hotel California But he One of this chorus is he changed it to Hotel Philadelphia
Starting point is 00:34:32 And I don't know if that was a mistake Or he was just There's also a lot of tear blops on the fucking paper He broke guitar solo in parentheses And then he just writes B-A-N-N-A-N-N-N-H-H-H-H-N-N-A Solo B-A-N-N-N-A
Starting point is 00:34:53 and weedly wing. This part always gets me. Whammy bar. Swang and a bang. Oh, is it time to wrap this bitch up? Dead. Have fun tonight, boys. Head. Two gun.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Three gun. Four. Your, mine. It's all about crime. Oh. We're bringing this a bell. It's going to stop me from punching a stranger. Ooh, I want to get down an ox.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Ha, ha. I'm so excited to listen to the angriest black music ever. I only know Slam. Do you? What? What? Damn, dude. I know 15 songs.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Where's Onyx going to go in this lineup, you think? Second and the last. Biohazard's going to close? Yeah, of course. It's their thing. Who else is it? Sworn Enemy is there tonight and two other bands I've never heard of. Oh.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Your mom, brother. Have fun. Word up. Raise it up. Mikey Finoa is on tour opening for Wrong White. all winter with stops in Virginia Las Vegas, California, much more. Check him out on those.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Check him out on his own dates where you can get tickets and tour dates at Mike Fanoia.com, F-I-N-O-I-A. And of course, he'll be with me this whole weekend. And then, yeah, in fucking Austin. Mothership. Yay, Mothership.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And you can follow him at Mike Fanoia on all socials and his podcast at Are We All with Charles McB. Josh Edomier's at the House of Comedy in Phoenix, November 6th, the Horseshoe. Horseshoe Casino. in Baltimore. She's doing great. Horseshoe Casino in Baltimore, November 22nd, and Charlotte, North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:36:28 December 4th of the 6th. For tickets and all tour dates, go to Josh Hedomeyers.com. The Bonfire podcast releases new episodes Tuesday through Friday on all major platforms. BigJComedy.com. We'll be back tomorrow with Bobby. Dude.

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