The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Too Astute with Jaleel White

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

He was the a huge child star as Urkel on "Family Matters" and now has a hit game show called "Flip Side." Jaleel White thinks the 90's were an awesome time to grow up in. Jay asks him about young stardom in an astute way, and follows it up with a statement that the room strongly disagrees with. Black Lou read Jaleel's book and has questions about the time he met Magic Johnson in the L.A. Laker locker room. Bobby and Jay bet on whether or not Bert Kreischer would take his shirt off in Jennifer Hudson's spirit tunnel. Bob lost and now has to dress up as a woman for a day. Jaleel White's comedy game show "Flip Side" can be found on The Game Show Network. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolfSubscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early.  Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

And now the bonfire with big Jay Olkerson and Robert Kelly everybody is the bonfire faction talk serious xm 103 and We're uh, we're waiting on Jay. He's coming very shortly Okay, we got a we got a guest coming in right now. He's outside black Lou's sitting in for Jay, it's it's He's outside. Uh, uh, Black Lou's sitting in for Jay. It's uh, it's uh, it's Lou and Bobby's show. Lou and the Bob Show.

We're here. All right, what's up? Lou, we've got a very special guest coming in, Lou. Talk to me, Lou. I'm so pumped. Yeah? This is bigger than Dak Prescott. If you follow the show, this is bigger than Dak Prescott for me.

I am pumped up. You want to say who's coming in? Who's coming in, Lou? Jaleel White, also known as Urkel. Yes, and he's got, well I don't know if he can, he might want to take that back. But can we say that? I don't know if we can call him. Alright, cool.

Yeah, we got him coming in. Jay's running a little late, but that's okay. He'll be hustling in shortly. Yes. What's going on, Christine? What's happening? They need a couple more minutes, and Jay's in the elevator. Jay's in the elevator. They need a couple more minutes and Jay's in the elevator. Jay's in the elevator. They need a couple more minutes and everything happens for a reason, right Lou?

Everything happens for a reason. It's all gonna be perfect. Yeah, we got him coming in today. He's got a brand new game show that's out right now, which is- Flipside. The Flipside. What's that dude today we got we got J man coming in J man shooting in from the side coming in Jaleel Jale. Jaleel. Jaleel. That's it. Jaleel. Yes.

Jaleel. I have a hard time. I'm a mush mouth. We all know that. Jaleel. Coming in today. So you're a big fan of the show. That was like, see, cause I was,

I was too old I think at that time to watch that, right? Yeah, Family Matters was my first consistent dad. Now that's the guy from Die Hard. Die Hard, yes. Reginald Bell Johnson. Who played a cop in that too. He did. Which is pretty wild. And you read his whole book last night, his memoir. Between yesterday and today I've been reading that memoir like crazy man. Yeah. It's a great one. It's a good one? Yeah it's really good. Oh that's fantastic. That's so funny. You read the whole thing? Just about.

Yeah, that's great. You're a reader. Really, that's great. I actually set up a whole room. I have a walk-in closet that we made the other bedroom next to ours. We just put an opening, and we made it a walk-in closet because we always wanted one.

Kristin, you've seen it. And I put a chair in there, and I put a reading lamp. And I made a special book holder. I made out of wood, and I did a chair in there and I put a reading lamp and I made a special book holder. I made, you know, out of wood and I did all the stuff and I've never, I sat in there one day and read for an hour and a half, fell asleep in the chair. I haven't been back since. I literally have a reading room that I was so proud of

where I was gonna go in and start reading all the books like my grandpapa, because my grandfather loved to read. And everybody says reading is how you get smart and how you learn everything. And I read Al Pacino's first two chapters and I passed out. You bailed. Haven't been back since. You didn't get to the acting part. You're still on his childhood. I'm still on his weird childhood, which freaks me out There he is

Everybody the great big Jay Okerson who I watched last night Proving that you're special was one of the funniest. I sent it to the gauntlet last night. Oh, yeah I sent it to the gauntlet. That's why I called you late night What was the gauntlet the gauntlet is in my cigar lounge at late night, there's a bunch of guys that are there and they have a movie room, almost like a theater room. And if you go in there, it's a bunch of dudes and they'll be watching movies,

smoking bats, busting balls. And I said last night, put my friend, they were talking about another comedian, which we remain nameless. Who we all know, who, not that good, not funny. Good on podcasts, special sucked. I was like, okay, I said, okay, let's do this. Let's put my friend's Big Jay special on.

Just came out, them. They. They, which they just came out. Yeah, it's pretty tough. I mean, you really fucked us on the names. I mean, just come up with one and name it one thing. Stop fucking making it weird. They them, what?

Them they. Them they, all right, see, it's just. Well, you're right. Jamil. They them is, they them is Jaleel. Jaleel, Jaleel. They them is, or they them is the actual term for when people go non-binary. And yours is them they.

That's them they. So I put it on last night. Why did you swap? Sorry. Huh? Why did you switch it? Oh, cause it's funny to, it's funny when people get worked up about shit like that to play dumb and be like, oh no, that's different.

Hang on real quick. I'll make it shorter. It's funny. Yeah. It's called humor. I didn't know if there was something else. No, well it's double entendre. Yeah, we have terris. I didn't know if there was something else. Yeah, well, it's double entendre. Yeah, we have the audience, them, they.

We have terrorist face Jacob in studio today. Why would you do that? Hamami al-Raswami. I'm looking at you. Look at them. Ulaka Sujaka. Hamasi al-Sayed Faheed. Hahahaha.

Moses Alaganda. What happened? Where's Jaleel White? So last night, he's coming in. He needed a couple minutes. I mean, dude, buckled over. I mean, almost to the point where I was like, really? Yeah, it got a grip. I mean, it's the crowd. That was a transitional thing. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition.

It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition.

It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was a transition. It was cigar bar. Almost to the point where I was like, really? Yeah, it got a grip. I mean it's a crap. That was a transitional thing.

It was, no dude, here's the funny part. You ended it right when I wanted you to end it. Yeah. A lot of specials is like, all right dude, let's go. Right when I was like, all right, you went, all right guys, and I was like, it's over? I was like, that's perfect. You ended the special perfectly. And then you came back with a little taste, because I was like, it's over? I was like, that's perfect. You ended the special perfectly.

And then you came back with a little taste, because I was like, I could use a little more. And you came back with a little taste at the end of that. It was great. And you know what, you look beautiful. Thank you. You look beautiful. Your eyes were made to be filmed.

Thank you. I know, I thought when I did that special, by the way, I was like, I think I look pretty good. I was like feeling like I lost some weight. And then now I look, I did that special, by the way, I was like, I think I look pretty good. I was like feeling like I lost some weight, and I was doing good, and then now I look, I've lost weight since. Looking at it now, I'm like, damn, still fat as shit. Yeah, yeah, you were.

That fucking special, it was a fat turd. How do you think I felt, dude? I was 360 when I did my special. I can't watch clips. Tough. I can't, buddy, there's a, I was like, I want a side camera so I get the people laughing as they say jokes, because I wanted that.

I wish I just had a one shot of my face that I could slim out or something. The side shot of me knowing that that jacket couldn't button if you gave me $30 million to button it, makes me sick to my stomach. Well that was, for a couple of years, my fluctuation in weight, when I got the Country Western shirt,

our first one ever at Allen's Boots, really nice one that I still have. It's so funny, the different years I've gone, and it's been like, it closes. It's always closed standing up. But there was a couple years where if I sat down in it, it would blast the snaps, it would just go. You see just some lady scream in the front audience,

her eyes taken out. They're snap buttons, Bobby, it's the Country Western shirt. You just killed 14 people, they front audience her eyes taken out their snap buttons Bobby You just killed for people they thought it was a mass shooter You really are going with the sunglasses fat guy for Jaleel killed three people at a comedy club last night city With the we have with fucking projectile buttons just you crying with a shirt with rips in it I didn't do it. I didn't take my oz. I think that shirt now is like baggy on me Yeah, you look fantastic now, but you didn't look I ozepic. That shirt now is like baggy on me. Yeah, you look fantastic now. But you didn't look, I tell you right, you're very charismatic.

You have a good energy, a good face on stage. What's up? Alright, we've got our guest in. Alright, here we go. Very nice. Alright. Exciting. Alright, what's up man?

How are you sir? How you doing brother? What's up man, how you doing? Robert, nice to meet you. Here's your headphones right here. We've got a little water How you doing brother? Good. What's up man, how you doing? Robert, nice to meet you. Here's your headphones right here. We got a little water for you.

Welcome to the show everybody, promoting season 2 of his game show The Flipside. It's the great legend, Jaleel Whitehouse. Legend? You call me a legend? Yeah. Man, I don't know. It's Shazur Sanders slipping in the draft. This ain't the weekend to be calling ourselves legends. Oh, poor Sh poor Sager Sanders. Do not start, do not say poor though. You will not say poor.

Yes, it's true, he is not poor. He's about to learn some adult life lessons, but he ain't poor. It just sucks that he made more in college than he's gonna make in three years. That's wild. That's terrible, I woulda just stayed in college. That's wild though, it's a reality check,

that's what it is. Yeah, Deon Sanders is tough, it's like the, like the Levar Ball, was that the dad? I would have just stayed in college. That's wild, though. It's a reality check. That's what it is. Deon Sanders is tough. It's like the LeVar ball. Was that the dad? When the Ball brothers got drafted. Making themselves like the person. And it's stealing the thunder from, like, what might be a great player. You know, I met him. I know him.

I think Shiloh, by the way, should be a stand-up comedian. He's so damn funny. Shiloh Sanders. But I think it was- He looked at my face and went, he doesn't know where he is. Yeah, no, I can tell, I can tell. I can tell. He was actually the first Sanders I started following.

I thought Shiloh was just funny. I don't know, they had a little reality thing. I was like, oh, this kid is hilarious. He's a good big brother. But I think it was inadvertent what happened. And sometimes you can just be really proud of your kid. And you know, you, but I don't think they even realize what a protective cocoon they've put him in.

So now that he's out in the wild and you have to answer to other people, some of those sound bites seem to be coming back. You know, we're gonna do this to Eli way and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't even know if it was Shadura's fault. He's supposed to be confident, damn it. As a quarterback. But then if your dad says, we're going to do this to Eli Way, but nobody even has you

as number one on their draft board, your dad's got to know that before he said that, and I think that's just an inadvertent mistake that a loving father made. But now it's up to him, though. It's like, you know, Tom Brady came in sixth. Yeah. So he was terrible. Nobody even counted him in.

He became the goat. But you know what? I can't stand about this situation now, man. Like, we got a chance to work and hump in secrecy man in the 90s and 2000s. Now you got a spotlight on you before you did any damn thing. So I mean he's coming in fourth on the depth chart and the camera's gonna be on him though. It's not even gonna be on the three people in front of him on the depth chart.

So I like, I don't know, I look at the way like Arch Manning is coming up right now and I could tell after he kinda got smoked by Quinn Ewers in the spring ball, that I could tell whoever was behind him, his team, they said, get him off social. We not going back out there until he throws for, you know, he plays in the big games the way he's supposed to play in the big games.

It's funny that you say that about the social media and how everything's out there now. I'm from Philadelphia, so Alan Iverson would have played one year of basketball if there was social media. Oh my gosh, are you a fool? That's a hot take. Every year in the off season, every year it was, and you were able to, because there was no social media

or cameras everywhere, so it would be like Alan Iverson you know gunning drugs in the car okay it was his friend like they always just passed it off on a friend like his his wife outside naked because he's got a gun one day running in the neighbor's house so we think that's all it is like they just like we heard that happen but no one really knew Larry Bird would be fine no he wouldn't have. Larry was a gangster, too. Larry's out there having babies and doing all kind of wild stuff,

cussing out fast. Yeah, but he gave, he gave. You know who's really disappointing? Because Belichick was that guy, didn't give interviews, didn't know anything about his life. And now he's out there with that 21-year-old that's just uncomfortable. I don't know.

He's talking, and she's in the background saying, he's not answering that. It's like, what happened? Oh really? Yeah. She's jumping in on the interviews? He was in interviews yesterday. Yeah, she jumped in on the interviews.

She called the interview, she's like, we're leaving. And it's like, you have Bill Belichick, man. Bill, we're getting out of here. Let's go. That's so funny. So you got this show, man, this game show, the flip side. Season two. Season two.

Season two, and I tell you, the reason why I like it is because anybody can play it. Yeah, it's apple pie. My friend will every day watch the stupid thing that's on at 730, what's the big game show? Jeopardy. Jeopardy. I hate it, because I can't answer a question.

I'll sit there and I'll be like, and then I get one and I scream it out I can't answer a question. I can't I'll sit there and I'd be like And then I get one and I scream it out and it's it's like Bobby what all you have to be is better at it Than your wife whoever you're sitting next to that's it in my household Yeah, I think jeopardy is fine because I dominate Christine and it constantly. All right, she has no chance. Great Can I say something? I married my wife, because she can fill out forms. That was part of it. No, no, listen. I don't know how to spell Massachusetts.

And you're from there. Yeah, I don't know a lot of things. That's true. And I get stuck, so she's smarter than me. I will say that my wife played a heavy hand in my daughter's middle school applications. How great is that, right? There's a big stack of forms, you're like,

I push it over to her, I go, here you go, I'm out. I wrote the first drafts. I get to just pop in once a year to the school and be like, Julia White here. But you got this show and I love it because it's just what you think. And it's pretty interesting that you go back and forth. It's just anybody can play it.

Yeah, no, it's not more complicated than... Did you come up with it? Were you part of the creativity of creating it? I'm a producer on the show. It was in development for probably about three years before we finally made it to air. I didn't even think much of it, to be quite honest, but I love the producer that I'm working with, Ken Ross.

He produced Space Jam, and he produced the soundtrack for Space Jam. So Ken and I go so far back. I'd almost given up any hope of working with Ken. I just, he was gonna be a lifelong friend no matter what. I literally picked him up from the Beverly Hills Hotel when I was like 18 years old, and he pops in a tape in my car,

and was like, thinking about putting this on the soundtrack. What do you think of this dog? It's, I believe I can fly. And you said that day, this guy can do no wrong. I don't know who this is singing, but this guy's great. Even at the time I thought nothing. I was like, Oh, that's pretty good. You got R on the track. Oh, that's cool, man. But he just has a real natural sensibility for what audiences want at the popcorn level of life.

And I like it. Hit him high. I mean, that was one of the best, what do you call that? Like not a compilation, but like a featuring where it was a bunch of comics, a bunch of rappers on it. It was B-Real, Method Man, right?

Oh, he's got a great story. Biggie had to get pulled off the soundtrack. He had Biggie. Why? Biggie had dunked. He couldn't dunk. No, because Biggie had gotten himself in some trouble, and Warner Brothers was like, ah, we can't have it.

Was it a Biggie party? Uh. Again, consider back in the day, though. Those parties would have just been food. It would have been food., consider back in the day though. Those parties would have just been food. But consider back in the day again, no social media or anything, that he was not lit on the soundtrack for something, but we can't even guess what it was that he did. I wish we could go back, man. You could just make mistakes a little more easy.

They didn't need to be held over your head for the rest of your damn life. Well, you were also a child star where they could like I mean what they do today to a child star Before they're a child like the celebrities babies get scrutinized and called ugly and all kinds of crazy shit Well, that's just the island boys That baby's kind of Yeah He had a big one of them had a baby in the sky I forget who he was he was a hip- guy, a podcast dude, and he was like,

yeah man, that baby's ugly. And he got mad. But then they showed the picture of the baby, you're like, listen dude, it's gonna grow into that face. The baby's like the baby. An ugly baby is an ugly baby. I know that's always the worst when someone, what did they get, was it Perez Hilton years ago,

like got shit for going into Adam Sandler's baby, being like, that's an ugly baby? And him of all people. And right away you're like, I know. But you're like, that is so fucked up to say about someone's baby. Then you look and you go, I mean, look, we can't sue him for slander.

But for sure, you shouldn't say the baby's ugly. I'm gonna double down on that. And him of all people. Perez Hilton? Yes. Oh yeah, freaky looking. Another baby haver. And if he does have one, that's gonna be an ugly baby.

But that could, I mean, the pressure already of being a young actor like that, if you had every move you made, scrutinized, and seen, and see the first time you got drunk or tried weed or just any mistake you make as a teenager. In this era, I wouldn't have gone to college. I wouldn't have. I wouldn't be, come on, what, Zendaya's gonna go to college?

Zendaya's gonna go to college? Like, why? You know, why? So she can have a bunch of people on the campus doing like this to her everywhere she friggin' walks. Did you ever see, there was a great documentary on Hulu called Kid 90? Yeah.

That you saw before, yeah, with Suleiman and Thrive. Yeah, Suleiman, she's a good friend of mine. She produced it, I'm so proud of her. That was such a good, because for once it was like a love note to the time versus just everything being terrible. And they did get to explore that. They got to go, she documented, they all went

and tried mushrooms for the first time out in the field and just being kids and it wasn't all just like TMZ everywhere you go. That's crazy. Yeah, that's my dream. You watched it happen on your career. I wrote a book growing up Urkel that came out in November and that's really my dream actually is to make

The 90s version of my childhood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is Lou over here He uh, he's so excited you read the book last night. What absolutely loved the book get out of fantastic Give me one thing you like from it. Come on The story of you going into the Lakers locker room page two page two? To shit you've been buying your time over here But I do have two questions based on that experience. I just want to say this really quick. I have a reading room I am gonna read it You do not have to lie to kick it

The lie was the lie was he's gonna read it. He does have a reading room though. I do have a reading room. I made a reading room. You're gonna be my second book right after Al Pacino. Do you still have the sneakers that he signed and gifted to you? Yes I do. I still have. You know what's funny about the sneakers that Magic Johnson gifted to me is my favorite part isn't the sneakers. It's the ticket stubs that I kept, Lakers versus San Antonio, 1992. How much do you think courtside those two tickets cost?

Back then or today? Back then. It's gonna break my heart. I have them inside the shoe. I just kept them naturally inside the shoe. Are we playing the game right now? I'm gonna say. This or that from the game, right?

I'm gonna say $55. Oh, I was gonna say 300. No, I'm 50. I'm 250. 220, what about you Oveo? 350. 350, all right. 450 each, courtside, 1992.

I was so off. I mean, that's such a wild thing to see on a ticket now. If you go to the thing and just plug you don't go to Seakeak right now and put front row it's like $6,000. Oh you're not getting it for that number by the way. Yeah it's crazy how much they charge. What's the next question? What you got? But yeah you were in the gym during that time period and I was reading in the book which made my mind explode but as a young man they brought you in there with all these dudes like changing and showering and and Magic Johnson had a loose towel on. The women was in there everybody it was different

what are you talking about a different time period. Yo Dr. Julius Irving got busy back in the day and I don't mean to say that it didn't great in the nearby grades, life was just different back then. When you say different, you're saying better. Different, just say different. It was very open in the locker rooms. And you could tell, and there was nothing weird about the culture either.

If there were lines being crossed They were being crossed consensually and they were being crossed discreetly because there was no holds barred There were women in there. It was everything and James Worthy sitting over here magic sitting over here And the child barely covered anything. I was like, you know, this is wild Yeah well I said there's it's funny when you hear the stories of like the groupies of like the 70s and stuff from like these bands when you hear the stories of the groupies of the 70s and stuff from these bands,

they're telling these stories that you think they're almost giving a confession of sadness of something they went through, and they're so happy. They're like, oh, it's like, I had sex with a security guy and I got back to meet the band and then I ended up hooking up with two guys in the band. And they're like, it was the best summer ever. It was the best night of my life.

That was my mom's memoir. That was. I read that. Yeah. Miss Mama Kelly, a life examined. She hooked up with the whole Van Halen band. Not Hager. Yeah, when it was David Lee Roth.

But it's funny, I was in the, I went to- She got to the van and she didn't stop his security. She was just- I went to the Patriots locker room thinking, it was just a bunch of naked guys and reporters. There's no hijinks or anything going on. I thought it was gonna be all kinds of hijinks. What kind of hijinks were you looking for?

I didn't think that it would be like girls and hanging out and there's nothing. There was actually a woman reporter and Wes Welker just walked by with just a jockstrap on and everything hanging out. Kickstand, by the way. Guys, five two, my lord. I literally went.

It's Kevin Hart numbers. I went holy moly. That's why Wes is so fast. Yeah, that's what slows him down, he'd be faster. If he had mine, he'd, no, man, it was, yeah. He's running with three legs. He's running. Those are Kevin Hart stats.

When you're that short with that big of a wiener, you're gonna succeed. Must be nice. You're gonna succeed, no doubt for sure. Did you have a chance when you were growing up, especially playing a character that was noted for being nerdy, when you were getting to the age where you were getting interested in girls, was that something to overcome?

To overcome it? Are they thinking you're the character from TV? Because people are dumb. Oh yeah, no. I mean, it's astute of you to point that out. I felt like my image always entered a room before I did. And that was definitely something to overcome. I mean, even as an adult, you would have even moments

where it was like, I wonder how I'm saved in her phone. You know? You know? It would hurt. It would hurt. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they're just a reality too, what it is, man.

It's a reality. You have Jay hooked up with a girl and he was, fat Jay was in his. Oh, I'm certain of it. I'm certain of it. I'm certain I got those things, yeah. You know they have tits Kelly in St. Louis, probably. Jay, meal on Wednesdays.

I'm so mad right now. You called, we're never gonna live, hits Kelly and say, Jay meal on meal on Wednesdays. I'm so mad right now. You call we're never going to live. You calling him astute. That's going to want us forever. It's going to be in the back of my next special. It's going to say astute and close to Julia white. And you rubbed your chin when you did very astute. Oh God.

Well, Bobby, we always, we always get told we're terrible interviewers, so trying to get better. Trying to get better at it. I know he's got some tats, but he hit me with some smart shit. Some astute shit. Well I mean, I'm 47.

How are you? I'm 48. 48, so we're right in the wheel. We grew up together essentially. So it's such an interesting time that I said that I feel like, especially the 90s, they're looked back on with such negativity. I thought it was great it was fan

freaking testing we were saying this yesterday I keep saying they keep trying to put a narrative in the 90s of like a racism that I thought didn't exist I think it was I don't know. He's not so astute now, is he? It's very astute. Hey, he's astute. It's astute, for sure. He's astupid right now. I'm not saying- You had that whole Rodney King thing?

No, it's different. Was that racism? I feel like I was speeding. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He went from astute to stupid. Bobby, you're going to bite those words. Listen, you can eat those words, Bobby. In 1990, I don't think racism was around.

That's not what I said. I hung out with Kevin Hart and Keith Robinson. Nope. Shut up. That's not what I said. I hung out with Kevin Hart and Keith Robinson. Nope. Shut up.

It's not what I said at all. You were doing black comedy clubs. Racism still was around. Racism's always been around. I'm not arguing that. I'm saying the interconnections of the day-to-day basis I don't think was there. I think relations were not as tense as they were. Now you're getting too astute of me.

I don't even understand what you meant. Say it again. Maybe because I grew up in West Philadelphia, I just didn were not like Maybe I grew up in West Philadelphia, I just didn't feel there was a racial tension when I was younger that exists I think much more now. It's like pointed out constantly. I don't think it existed as much back then There's a lot more race baiting now because of social media sure but back then You know if if you didn't know what you didn't know, if you didn't know about that neighborhood, you didn't know about that neighborhood. I was the only, and I talk about it in my book,

I was the only black kid in my entire school. And I knew there were the Asians here and there was the whites here and nobody is inviting me to bar mitzvahs. That was my reality, right? And then also when I went to the all black school where that was more like a version of Lean On Me Light with Joe Clark at the helm,

I also ran into a level of bullying that I didn't expect for being on TV and being the image of that character where it was just like, oh, we definitely picking on you. And yeah, it was like, we definitely picking on you. And yeah, it was just, there's a very poignant chapter that I wrote about in my book that involved my dad that I'll let you speak about if you want to. But it was just like, my dad basically ran up on the school and he ran down on a young man that was really eye to eye with him.

Fucking arriving. down on a young man that was really eye to eye with him. And it'd be really, really eye to eye with him. If that had happened today, oh my gosh. Globally, globally viral. The number of phones that it captured. I'm talking trash cans with drones. Lunatic, attacking kids, everybody would be debating it. People would be talking about my father. Everybody would be debating it. People would be talking about my father.

And it was, I feel fortunate to have lived in an era where that situation worked out the way it did work out. It was a horrific story at the time, but it was like, oh, I hate to say it, but some people were made better back then, man, from being punched in the nose. And you can't say that for this generation. So I don't want anybody to think I'm advocating that.

I thought it was part of growing up. But it was part of growing up. I think it's how you learn how not to take it a certain, you know, I'm gonna walk away. Last time I did this, I woke up in the hospital. So I'm not gonna do this. Yeah, straight up. You learn to chill out with your words.

You learn the lines of roasting, especially you. Come on, back in school. All right, you know you was roasting fools. I had no choice. You had no choice. He wore a karate shirt. I was here. To school.

Not the black ones with the brown bottoms. No, he's not even. Not even, let him explain. Tell him what it was, Jay. Well, in the film Road House, in the final scenes, Patrick Swayze wore, Christine, you can bring up a picture, a karate gi as a shirt,

just pulled over itself and tucked in. It's a little pulled out there, that was after a fight. But it was tucked in. But so I, from my Jewish community center, a karate class I took, one day I go, oh I'm gonna wear my karate gi. I only went to a few classes, but I got the gi. And I was like, I'm gonna wear the gi,

and I tucked it in, so I'm a fat kid, tucking in a gi, and as soon as I move it all, the gi of course starts coming loose, so then I just have like little boobs like hanging out. I mean, it was the most unflattering looking, I thought I was going to school at Roadhouse. And everyone laughed at me til I went home. You were going to school at his house.

It was one of my few days of going home early from school without asking, I was just like, I'm getting out of here, I can't deal with this anymore. I'm looking at this picture of Swayze you have with this guillon though, and the only thing that's making that picture cool is his hair. Oh yeah. His hair is just overpowering the whole fit.

It was perfect at the time. Yeah. God. Thank God there was no racisming the whole fit. It was perfect at the time. Yeah. God. Thank God there was no racism in the 90s. Bobby? No, I'm just saying. There was definitely racism. Because if there was, it would have been worse for him.

Right? Yeah. When did racism start? What about 2001? I think it was, it took a break. It started way back in the day. Then I think in 1982. Donald Sterling. 82 took a break during disco,

and then it came back around 2014. Maybe, again, where did you grow up, Julio? I grew up in Pasadena. In Pasadena, California. So I grew up in Philadelphia and I think it may have been situationally where you were at. It was just, especially at the time,

all the white kids in my neighborhood thought the black kids were the cool, did you say it was like a lookup thing? It was like a switch? I grew up with them. But it might have been regionally, where I was at. But did you see the black kids were the cool, did you say it was like a lookup thing? It was like a switch? But it might have been regionally, where I was at. But did you see the black kids at their birthday parties? Of course, yeah. You did?

You were really, really young? Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I grew up in Boston. Racism hasn't taken a break. I was like, where's he going with that? Still going strong. It's right in those freckles when you're born.

It's right in there. I had to move to New York so my son could have black friends. They're telling us we gotta wrap up. I just throw one more question in there before we wrap up. Yeah, just one in there, man. Come on. Family Matters was obviously the soundtrack to a lot of the people growing up during my time. You should have watched it. It was great. Don't just listen to it. But to piggyback off of what Jay said, one of the questions I wanted to absolutely get out there before you left is at 17 you wrote one of the first Family Matters episodes

by yourself and that is the time that Larry Johnson came on the show, Grandma Ma, and basically, you know, putting a black man in a dress at the time was a huge deal and then later on you did it as Myrtle. Yeah. And I never saw a problem with it. What kind of hate and backlash did you receive after doing it? Or not maybe just you, but the show itself. The only backlash that I received

was internal and self-doubting that came from some of our adult actors at the time. Everybody loved it. Larry Johnson is 6'5 of steel, pure man steel. If he wanted to put on a dress for the sake of a Converse commercial and dunkle and guise because it was funny. Life was just different back then.

People didn't take themselves quite seriously. When it came to that issue, I mean some of the greatest performances I've ever seen by the most masculine dudes that have ever existed on screen from Jean Hackman to Wesley Snipes to You know, they've the Tom Hanks have have all done it I actually my dad Went and told the producers that I would not be playing Myrtle anymore because of all the tension around that first week.

Because I broke down in tears and I cried after the first episode and my dad found me in my dressing room and I really thought all my friends were going to make fun of me at school. And instead everybody just loved it. So it really wasn't, if you'll notice there's a giant, if you check IMDB there's a giant break between Myrtle episodes where I did that one and I didn't do another Myrtle episode for three seasons I was just bored and

Literally just walked into the writers room one day and was just like I was drilling my basketball and I was like if you guys Ever want to do Myrtle again, like I'll do it I knew I was at an age where I could make that call myself and they just roar and they scream You know, it sucks that everything has to be politicized and polarized. What's up with say, do you think there's a vindictive nature when people are writing that concept? No, it's just an agenda. It's just an agenda.

If you can create controversial discourse over anything, you get people to click and argue and fuss and fight. And it's a huge, the whole wearing a dress thing, I mean, I was watching Mrs. Doubtfire the other day. Oh my gosh, you're just triggering me there. I was watching Mrs. Doubtfire, it's like one of the greatest performances in the history of comedy,

to think that today, that would not get made. Like that wouldn't even get made. I won't watch a white man in a dress. I'm done with you, Jay, that a dress. I'm done with you. That was my cue to shut the hell up. I'm done with you. Flipside. Flipside is out right now. It's number four after all, Jeopardy. I mean it's a great show. Syndicated across the country. Game show network. 180 episodes are already out there for season one, correct we do we start the next hundred and eighty in three weeks, and it's it's a great show Atlanta If you're in Atlanta come on down. We want the best

Contestants my joy in the show is actually rocking with the contestants man. I love to see people win I love giving away the $10,000. It ain't my money. I want to give it away Amazing Julia white thank you so much man. We hope to have you again soon. Y'all some players man I appreciate take care. Make sure you check out the flip side right now I'm gonna say it. I'm just gonna say it We're probably the best interviewers on serious. Maybe the best interviewers. I'm gonna say it I mean these these people in the press corps,

what is it called here? The talent department. The talent department. You guys, they don't hate us. They don't know what they have. They're scared. They're scared of the past radio things on here have frightened them.

They don't understand that. Jaleo White just complimented the show itself before he left. What did he say, Jay? He said you guys got a great chemistry going on here. Yeah, I love being here, I'd love to come back more. Yeah. I mean, I added the last part.

You did. I was gonna say, did he say that? But I was gonna blindly agree with you, which is awesome of me. Yeah. Absolutely. It was great, I mean. I don't, hey guys, since we left yesterday,

did you and Jacob both get sponsored by somebody? What's going? Is this like sponsorship? I'm unaware of this is a This is a Mike Altah's son started a clothing line Right here. Is it called Vita? It's not Vita Vita. Yeah Vita. It's Italian Okay, it's Italian it means Love I believe right looked it up Christine. I. It's Italian, it means love, I believe, right? Look that up, Christine, I don't know. I think it means life. Life, life, that's what it means, yeah.

Vita, life. Remember you just told me that it was Italian and I told you what it meant? Listen, I'm doing Duolingo in Spanish, okay? Not party a town, no molto bene. You love a Duolingo. But he started this company and I bought a bunch of his stuff when he did it.

I like it, I actually like the line, it's cool. I like Jacob's jacket too, it's pretty hot. You know what's interesting, we just had this conversation about people having to dress like a woman. It is strange, right? Like, Jaleel had to dress like a woman, we said Robin Williams, and isn't it crazy that next is gonna be the great Robert Kelly?

pulling duty as a woman for a full day because I don't know did anybody happen to catch the The Burke Chrysler what happened going through the j-hud tunnel what happens? Well, we had a little bit last week about whether he took his shirt takes his shirt off or not What we had a bet last week, I'm sorry, hang on one second. Does Burt Kreischer take his shirt off in the J-Hut tunnel? I gotta turn my headphones up. Go on.

I'm not hearing, I'm not hearing things. Is it, what did you say? We made a bet last week. Loser, we said next bet we do, loser has to dress full woman. Not to be like a drag queen, like a beautiful girl. Makeup done properly, a beautiful dress.

But listen, I don't know, you said you haven't seen it. Let's see what Burt Kreischer does. This is the one time where you were like, he's probably not gonna take his shirt off. He's gonna... I can't dress like a full woman. I'm gonna look like a cancer woman. Well, maybe you don't have to.

Maybe I'll have to. I don't know, I didn't watch the episode. I did. Roberta, look at the screen. I, don't call me that. Oh, he's wearing a episode. I did Roberta look at the screen. I Don't call me that. Oh, he's wearing a shirt. He's wearing a shirt. He's a la atta. Oh, wait a second Yeah, but he's his hands are on I mean they're loaded on the guns right on the buttons Mmm, maybe maybe huh God?

I Was open By the way He's gonna make a meal out of this I'll argue he might do the longest one ever. Oh It gets crazy He made a man he made a male worker uncomfortable Yeah, and then he takes his takes out. Now he's making all the black workers uncomfortable. Thank you, Christine. The black people stop clapping.

Oh, oh, he's coming at you. Daddy's coming at you hard. All fours. Shirt is not... Shirt didn't even make it into the tunnel. Shirts at the beginning of the tunnel, belts in the tunnel belts in the middle I think we're three minutes so far oh god I hope I get he's a hot grab her chest right now by the way he's killing and a little bit of ha ha and a little bit ah ah he's got it though huh yeah he's gonna exhaust he's got high blood pressure if you're talking that's what he's got Bobby you were gonna be ravishing as a lady.

I'm gonna need to come to your house first and Christine's gonna have to help me. No, no, no, no. I can't ask Don. No, no, I thought the idea was it'll all happen here. Oh, do it here? You'll be made into a beautiful woman in the duration of the show.

That's fine. Right? But what am I gonna... You want it to come from the parking lot because he specifically didn't want the guys in the parking lot this year No, let's do it. Let's do it here. I think he said you know, I think you're right No, I think you're absolutely right. You have to park and then we have to walk over. Yes We have to walk over buddy. I can't fuck up that deal that parking deal. The parking lot deal is the best

I don't know. Oh, you think you're gonna think you're a dumb woman in charge of more You get to pick out your hair. I don't want to. Oh, can I pick up good hair for Bobby? No, no. Maybe a little, that's like the Rachel from the 90s. That's a good one. I don't want the Rachel.

Oh, you want like a messy, corny love one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's too guyish. I want to be short. No, no, no. Oh, maybe that, yeah, maybe get Bobby a fucking, like a Katie Couric, like a bitchy woman. First of all, bitch, I'll pick my own hair. Oh, can you be, maybe get Bobby a fucking like a Katie Couric like a like a bitchy woman first of all bitch I'll pick my own hair

Can you be a frigid bitch with short hair guys? What you're gonna be so beautiful? We do double or nothing on something. What's the double? Do you have to have sex with a man you have to dress like a woman then have sex with a man also or nothing? Bert taking his shirt. I don't I, I thought maybe he had a moment, a watershed moment in life. Yeah, he was like, you know what, there's a lot of black people here. I don't wanna be that person in front of black people.

But he didn't care. You can tell everything about a person by how they go through the gauntlet, the Jennifer Hudson gauntlet. Because I watched Christina Ricci the week before, she looked like panicked. Yeah, she's panicked. Like fear and...

Christine, look up African American wigs. You saw that big forehead frown. If you could find some African American wigs, maybe. No, no, no. Oh, how about that, Bobby? How about a strong, independent woman haircut like that right there? You want to be like a MILF? Yeah.

You want me to be a gray-haired MILF? I'll do that. Absolutely, dude. First of all, that would actually look good You can't look up I can't that's cultural inappropriate. What is it called cultural appropriation? I can't do that. I'll get fucking fired go up to the wigs, please I can't walk in with no I can't do that. I'd like you to maybe have that curly one on the end I can't do that. You know what that's just Indian woman hair, so I can do it I can't do that. No, I one from Bobby. I can't do that.

No, I'm looking like Giannis. You're beautiful. Oh yeah, you don't wanna be a Mauricio. You wanna be your own thing. Yeah, I don't wanna ask pussy. I apologize, go back. See, do they have wigs that do like salt and pepper haircuts, like Gumby's with half gold?

Do you see yourself as more glamorous or a Tom girl? What's your style? He's gonna be alluring, is what I'm gonna say. It's evening, like dress to kill, going out on the town. Maybe a slit up the dress. Yeah, I think he asked me what type of woman I would be. Apologies. Why don't you back off, you sissy.

Jay wants to be a woman so bad. Bobby, no, I wanna make you a woman so bad. Here's the thing though, Jay, we don't have to do two things. The wig and the dress. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Everything else is already done. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

Ha-ha. Ha-ha. Ha-ha, Jay. That was a good one. I wasn't listening. I was producing the show. I was, uh, Bobby. But do you have a style of, like, nails and stuff like that? Yeah. I can't. I and stuff like that? Yeah. I gotta do nails? Yeah.

Yes. Come on. We'll do some press-ons. They'll come off. All right. I'm thinking about giving you Anita Baker hair. Can we? Like an independent black woman.

I would say this. Why don't we order all this stuff, get it to studio, and as the show goes on, Christine makes me into the woman that I'm supposed to be. So by the end of the show, I am the woman. Bobby, inspire yourself with this song right here. This is what I want you to feel when you walk. Elegant, you're controlling the room.

Maybe your hands are up when you walk a little bit. Maybe some finger play. I use Christine's AOC hands when I talk. Are you gonna shave your beard and let us do your eyebrows? No, you don't shave your beard. I wouldn't do that to you. What's wrong with my eyebrows, first of all? Your eyebrows are perfect.

You're not very feminine. I don't want, you can't alter my face. No, maybe sharpen up your eyebrows a little bit. No, I don't want no. I'll just color them in. Yeah, you can color them in. God, my eyebrows would be so good for a lady. Your eyebrows? Yeah. I want that to be an intense woman. Yeah, you can color them in. You're not all that. My eyebrows would be so good for a lady. Your eyebrows?

Yeah. I want that to be an intense woman. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? A Russian woman? I play volleyball. Her eyebrows are shaped so nice. Buddy, you don't have woman eyebrows.

You have fucking Sasquatch eyebrows that are trimmed up. Listen, Jay. I want to make a proposal. If you don't mind. Does it involve you dressing like Anita Baker? Please. I want you to be an adult contemporary black woman. I say we do it here.

Right, we do it here. On a Tuesday it here on a to hang on on a Tuesday You have a show afterwards hang on. Oh shit I say we do it here, but I have to go outside You're saying between shows we'll go outside go outside in between shows rip cigars smoke a cigar in Beautiful lady dress like a beautiful lady. Just like a beautiful lady. I'd really love these garage guys to see you. Yes. What?

I'd really like the parking lot guys to see you. Buddy, please, I can't, because they'll never ever be able to undo that. They'll never say a word about it. Buddy, they will say it. They'll try to fucking hook up with me. Not in today's world. Their eyes will speak volumes, for sure.

But initially they're gonna be like they're gonna say oh Hey, no normal time. They're not gonna cuz they're gonna say they're insulting you if they challenge that you've discovered something about yourself You wanted to change I did I did I can't I can't please It's called Marecón. Marecón. Bobby, you are gonna just be a head-turner. You're gonna walk in, it's... I want you to saunter down the stairs in the lobby.

I'm not going out in the... No, no, no, no. Can I have one of those dresses that connects to your middle finger? So you can like saunter. Alright, here's the deal. I will take a jaunt around SiriusXM to the snack room. I will go upstairs and come down the stairs if I don't have to go to the parking lot. I want you to walk in shade 45 during Sway in the morning and go, and go, sorry, wrong studio.

Just walk right back out. No. Just go, oh, sorry guys, wrong studio. No. wrong studio just walk right back out now just go oh sorry guys wrong studio no yeah oh you're not getting me an elegant dress I'm gonna get you a beautiful dress dress like one of the Supremes I'm gonna get you a beautiful dress Christine's gonna buy a dress that she can fit into after I use it dress that she can fit into after I use it. Baby. I'm not dressing like a ball.

No, come on, two glands. No, that's too, that would make me feel shitty about myself, Christine. No, I'm thinking more like a... I'm not gonna fit in that. That's crazy, what are you doing? Buy me something a little airy, like sundress. Like this? No, like a...

We're watching White Lotus, like a Jennifer Coolidge. Oh, okay. Yeah, like a sundress. Yeah, like an old, like a hefty mom. But... Whoa. What? That hurt.

No, no, no, but we're gonna... She's gonna be a hefty mom? You be a hefty mom, if you will. All right, well we don't have to say it out loud. I'm gonna make you stunning. What I'm gonna do is you're gonna look like a hefty mom, but on the night where you come down and you go, all right, I think I'm ready, does this look good?

And the husband looks up like this. The husband looks up and goes, yeah, look, we have to get, wow. And you're gonna go, what? You're gonna go, beautiful. No, it's just something I threw on. It's from Footloose, Jacob got it. I got it.

Beautiful. I'm not wearing a fucking curtain. No, that's just something I threw on. It's from Footloose. Jacob got it. I got it. Beautiful. I'm not wearing a fucking curtain. No, that's ugly. Get that shit out of here. This... Christine got mad, like she has that dress. Yeah, Jennifer Coolidge clothes, though. What is that? Um, she's a, uh...

She was a former hot, now portly woman. No, I was saying what was that on the screen. Okay, now here, this is what I'm talking about. Oh God. I'm thinking about something like that. It's beautiful. What, a Puerto Rican grandma dress? Yeah, that's...

Okay, listen. That's too much. It's how you work it. All right, now that I don't mind. Not that one, go back up. The captain. I like a captain. Weird, we have to have a body and a captain.

I'm a Kefken girl. Say no more. I'm gonna exclusivelyfton. Weird, we have a body in a Kefton. I'm a Kefton girl. Say no more. I'm gonna exclusively look for these. No. No. I like a Kefton, I like the way it hangs on your shoulders. Do I have to wear the shoes? I don't have high heels, dude.

We'll get you something. Can Jimmy choose? I'm not gonna put you in high heels. It ruins the day. What do you mean the day? Some flats maybe I'll get you nice like yeah some flats Like a butterfly on them. Can I say yes that Bobby has to take a meeting with Jim McClure? I mean we're at work. We're throwing a lot on top of this

He's already got to be humiliated through it. I'd like Jim to happen upon him would be nice I'll schedule something that needs to be discussed. Oh, yeah. Yes. I just so fucking Bobby. Oh, oh Bobby No, she's that's to mrs. Roper. I'm not mrs. Roper Yeah, dude, I'm not doing that. That's how you rock it, dude Oh, I don't want to rock. I can't rock that. Here's the thing If we get you a nice dress like this, you could wear cowboy boots and look sexy. Ooh. I don't have cowboy boots.

We'll figure that out, dude. Are your ears pierced? They were in the 80s. Should we get you some clip-ons? I'll get you some clip-ons. I'm not piercing my ears again. No, get you some clip-ons. 54.

I'm not going to hold on to it. I'll go with you. Are your ears pierced? I'm not piercing my ears. I told you I'm not altering my body. Bobby, let's go get our ears pierced together No, I don't want my ears pierced. I think it's gay Excuse me. I think it's gay

For a 50 year old man. I'm fine with it when a younger guys like 20s 47 48 I mean you cut and there's a point where you're gonna have to make a choice Jay. Am I 47? Yeah Yeah, there's a point where you're gonna have to go. Hey, man. Am I 47? Yeah. Yeah. There's a point where you're gonna have to go, hey man, I'm 60 and I have three nose rings. I mean, it's coming. Yeah, the crazy thing is, the crazy thing is, in the time that I've been 47, I only had two nose rings and then got the third. Yeah, I know.

You gotta stop. You gotta find another hobby. You can do it. Let's get your ears pierced and I'll get my eyebrow. You should start using those tools, that tool shed and start woodworking You start putting junk in your face. No, I'll do I'll put junk in my face. I'm gonna make my own. I'm gonna make my own body jewelry Go back go back go back go back. Oh Over the right. These are like moomoo's. they're not form figures. You're a fucking moomo.

Hey, I'm wearing it, why don't you back off? Because I wanted you to show off your figure. Now that is okay. I like that, that's not bad. I like that. That's the one he likes. I do like that. That one's really expensive. How much is it?

Well, it was $7.49, now it's $5.99. No, listen, you gotta go to a fucking thrift store. Thrift store. That's why it's on Amazon. Yeah, you gotta go to an Amazon thing and just get me a $39 moomo the idea Christine go to Amazon type in slutty dress no slutty dress for larger man I don't want to be slut why do I have to be a slut why can't it be a beautiful girl that someone might want elegant dress

for mid-sized male why do you got to make women all into sluts I don't why don't you make me into a beautiful girl that is respectable, that I'm gonna wanna be with. Buddy, I'm gonna make you so alluring. My favorite look? You're gonna command the room when you walk in. Yes, Jacob? The cowgirl look, mini skirt and boots.

All right, I'm gonna make you. Cowboy boots. I have a deal, I'm sorry to cut you off, Jake. I have a deal. Here's a great deal. So I don't have to go out of the building. We do it on a Tuesday. We started on the pre-show Making me up right making me up into the woman by the end of the show. I am full woman Hear you hear me. We're right and then for the next show. I have to stay woman for the first hour

But if and I have to stay woman for the first hour. But if, and I have to go outside as the woman for the break, come back up, and anytime somebody wants a snack or a drink, I have to go get it. So if at any point you're like, you know, I'm a little thirsty. I'll have to go get the, hey, but you can call me by my woman name.

Which is now, I believe, Creo Bobby Marmalade. Creo Bobby Marmalade. Hahaha! Creo Bobby Marmalade! So is that a deal? Maybe two shows instead of one. Shhh! I'm worried about the timelines. I'm worried about the timelines. At the end of the week they're going to hear you getting ready

and they're going to have you in your full thing on the live. Yeah. Well... Well, they'll have me in my full thing on the thing, but you'll have the footage of me maybe walking around. Yeah. Listen, I'm not being a hard ass about this. Jacob would like you to see the men you have to face every day at the garage. He would like that.

Jacob, why don't you stop being such a jerk face? This isn't your bet. This is your bet first away by the way, Jacob I'd like to say maybe Jacob shouldn't have saying this. Oh, he shouldn't Jacob shouldn't have saying why well I'll tell you why I'll bet it's our bet. What's not just that it's that Bobby wouldn't have bet against it Bobby has come. I don't I'm not saying that but Bobby is completely Come into the idea that he will have to be a woman here one day at work, and that's fine. Jacob won't even live with DJ Lou and Black Lou for three days.

Yeah. For three days. He won't even wear a shirt that says Jacob likes guys. Jacob loves guys. Jacob loves guys. Jacob loves guys. One, two. Jacob loves guys. Jacob loves guys. Jacob loves guys. One, two. Jacob loves guys.

I sure do. I think this is it. Coming right after Flip This. What's the show? Bobby. Bobby, that's beautiful. What was the other one? The other one I liked too.

I don't like purple. I look like my sister. I'm not wearing purple. No, not that one. There's more different colors. Okay. There was another one. There was another one. No purple. My sister loves purple and I feel like yes, I will look like my sister Bobby

Maybe that one no purple. No purple. This is what I would like Bobby to wear this cowgirl Jacob wants to fuck love me He's looking much easier It'd be much easier if he can make you the kind of hot he wants to know you know Do you know why Jacob wants me in that cowl? Cause Jacob. Jacob loves guys. Jacob loves guys. I just think he's gonna have an easier time with us. I'm Japanese.

How dare you talk over your theme song. I'm a cowboy. There's a strong black woman in a dress. Yeah, I'm gonna have a hard time with that. But I do. Can I dress like Gale King? That I don't mind. I do like that.

Better, this is, that's too fat. That's too fat. Oh, I probably, I look like I love having your shoulders out like that. That would be nice. A royal purple? Can we do something a little, I mean, a little subtle? I'm going to have to walk around the studio and get stuff. With your big, with your big, flowy arms?

I don't know. I'm just, they're going to think, it's funny if they start seeing if I'm somebody famous. Can you see if there is there one with the finger hole by any chance? I've been looking. What's that? I'm not finding. Where the tail there is there one with the finger hole by any chance? I've been looking. What's that? I'm not finding. Where the tail of your dress connects to your finger

so you're always elegantly swinging it around. It's so funny that you know so much about women's fashion. Oh yeah, for sure. Is there the finger hole? Is that chiffon? I would love flats just so I can be comfortable. We'll get you some kind of a flat for sure. I would like a comfy flat. Maybe some jellies Yeah, and I I'm not any more jellies. I'm not saying and you're off. Maybe the

cow Girl outfit might be alright. Yeah, this is what I'm thinking about. He's just formal, dude I'm not fucking I didn't get bit by a fucking Dracula. It is gorgeous. I didn't think about that one. What the fuck are we doing, dude? You're not the heirs to Nosferatu. Yeah, I'm about to count to Monte Cristo's bitch. Yeah, dude, that's the fuck is that?

The Phantom of the Bonfire? Yeah, yeah, dude, I'm not wearing that. It's not like- Bobby, that is nice. Dude, it's Studio 54, I'm not wearing that. Bobby, that is nice. Dude, it's Studio 54. I'm not sucking off John Lennon. You look like Elvira there. That would be awesome. I think these have, it's called a wrist loop. I think these might have them. Okay, okay.

I don't want a cape. You have to have a cape. Why? You look like Princess Leia. Bobby, you only get to be a girl for one day. Don't you want to experience, like, live it up? Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're the only one who could help us. You know what, Christine, thanks for the pep talk, girl.

Appreciate that. You have luscious hair, a beautiful gown. All right, here's the deal. Christine, you get to pick all the stuff with the help of Jay. But I want Christine to be there. But I do not want elegant but I do not want elegant. I do not want formal. Well then you're a cat-

Then you're back to slut. I'm what? Then you're back to slut. Now you're a cowgirl slut. You could definitely be a Nashville cowgirl slut if that's what you're feeling. I just wanna make sure it's cut off. Bobby, I can make you a sexy ass girl.

I could have a button down shirt that you tie in the front. No. No, it'll be low, it doesn't have to leave, like you don't have to wear a handie. I'm not letting my stomach show. Don't, I'm saying I understand that. I wouldn't put that on you. You can still do it with a low tie. Such a good look.

A low tie. Maybe some short shorts and cowboy boots. Will you type in fat girl dress, please? Yes. See what comes up. I did plus size. Type in fat girl. Fat girl dress.

I want fat girl. Type in fat girl dress. I want fat girl Type in fat girl dress actually fat woman. There you go. There's a pig Bitch looks like a mushroom Perfect, dude. I'm not wearing that that's Jacob doll clothes Woman can swap squat 700 pounds Bobby I mean that you know,. You look like Chicago in that. I don't mind. Not that. That's a fat curtain.

And all that jazz. That's a fat curtain. I don't want that. What is that? That doesn't look bad. It's a black sequin dress for blacks. Those look something. All right, go to another one. It's too expensive. Okay.

What is this? There you go, dude. No, I'm not wearing something that's tight around the waist. No, I can get you a corset though first. I don't want a corset. I'll put you in it. I'll pass out. No.

What if it's like tight here at the smallest part of your waist and then. Oh my god. Do you want to be the ugliest girl going to prom? Oh my god. Oh my god. Are these models for these clothes? Poor gals.

It could just be fat girls in dresses. Can you go to images? Let's go to images. I say go to shopping. Go to images, though, I just wanna see something. Images sometimes, all right, here we go. Scroll down. Ooh. No.

What, it's pants. Oh, Bobby, that might be it, dude. That's Kelly Clarkson. That might, Bobby? All right. Come on, dude. That's a pants suit. Buddy, you're gonna look like Ziggy Stardust. But you need tits.

I don't have boobs. We can get you a bra. I don't want a bra. Listen, do you need a bra? Do I have to go that far? I'm wearing a bra. You need a padded bra. What are you going to put in the bra?

It'll be padded itself. Wouldn't it be funny if you said your own tits? I can't put too much. Bobby, I think you let. You know, Jay was thinking of it. I want to tell you, I don't know why I'm thinking about Yamanika while we're looking at this. Because I know we're too much. Bobby, I think you let... You know, Jay was thinking that... I wanna tell you, I don't know why I'm thinking about Yamanika while we're looking at this. Cause I know we're looking if, okay.

Yeah. Sorry. I did know why. I know. Yamanika, I'm surprised you didn't come on the show and rehash this because this is so, she said something so funny. We had Naeem Ali and Drew Montana on the show.

And you had Drew on with Yamanika and Karen Fiehan. Drew's a great kid. I love Drew. Awesome, from Philadelphia, very funny. But his teeth are like chippy. And Yamanika said his teeth, she goes, I guess she was answering a question, she stopped the show to go, whoa, no,

your teeth look like moth wings, which is maybe one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Also, I was looking right at his teeth when he said it, and I go, oh my god, they do look like moth wings. When she said that, I fucking lost my shit. He's laughing about it, it's his teeth. But he literally had, the thing he laughed to, which he couldn't cover his stupid teeth,

he went, and I was like, what the fuck? He's a big laugher, Drew laughs, but it's great. God damn cover his stupid teeth. He went, huh, and I was like, what the? Oh yeah, he's a big laugher. Drew laughs a bit, it's great. God damn, his teeth stink. Him and him, do ragged with the ear tag, they killed it on Skanks last night. So, poor, Mothwings is a great title. Great name for what they look like.

Yamanique is funny, man. Hell yeah. I mean, she's bipolar as shit, but she makes me laugh. That was Mothwings? Yeah. She is, that made me laugh. Moth wings? Yeah. That made me jealous. When you hear somebody say something, it makes you jealous of like, damn, dude, that's really fucking funny as hell.