The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly - Yungblud & Lou Diamond Phillips

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

For a show that doesn't book many guests that aren't comedians, the Bonfire scored a young rocker and a former young gun in one live show. Lou Diamond Phillips has an impressive body of movie and tel...evision work. Yungblud has an impressive body that Bobby can't get enough of. Lou is promoting his new movie in theaters "Casa Grande" and he doesn't shy away from talking about the classics that made him famous like "Young Guns." Yungblud talks about having to prove himself to the metal crowd when singing at Ozzy Osbourne's final concert. "Yungblud Radio" is a weekly one-hour show on SiriusXM's Alt Nation (Channel 36), launching Monday, April 27, 2026, at 10 p.m. ET. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early.  Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 And now, the Bonfire with Big J. O'Kerson and Robert Kelly. We have our guests joining us in the studio right now. He's coming in. Very, very big deal. Hey, what's up, man? Right over here, buddy. How are you, sir? It's a pleasure to meet you.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Yeah. Thanks for having me. The great, the legend. I mean, legend. You're a legend. Phillips. Come on, you're a legend. In the house.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Welcome to the show, sir. My pleasure, thank you. Are these mine? No, is yours. excellent it is you said oh when i say legend but i uh if i had to give one main reason why i'd say you're a legend in movies is because uh i said very few people have done this when you play somebody in a biopic and make it so much like you become the character so much that when people picture if someone said richy valence i picture you i picture your face singing the song it's
Starting point is 00:00:55 it's iconic well i i had the benefit of the uh the fact that um Richie and no disrespectment whatsoever because he was 17 years old was not as, you know, easily identifiable as say Elvis, you know, or little Richard or, you know, somebody who, you know, even Buddy Holly, Buddy Holly was iconic with the glasses and everything. And so people have a certain expectation of what that person is going to look like. When I portrayed Richie, you know, his face wasn't as well known, you know. And what I love about it is that, you know, I think it, I think it prompted a lot of people to go back and discover him, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And I think, you know, the family was always really, really grateful that we brought Richie's legacy back, you know, and that he was no longer just an asterisk in, you know, Buddy Holly's story. Yeah, yeah. And whenever I've been on a small plane, we always pick which one we are. Are you? Unfortunately, unfortunately one time we got on it and we were all big boppers. That was the scariest one. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We're all big boppers. Did you ever get like a Jim Crocey in there, you know, or Stevie Ray, you know? No. Just mix it up. You remember my theory about famous people don't die in big planes. It's only small planes. Yeah. Look it up.
Starting point is 00:02:18 There's not a lot of big plane disasters. If you're on a plane and it's going through a tournament, if you have somebody famous on it, you're fine. Yeah. If you're on a small plane and somebody's famous on it, you might be fucked. We, it's so funny, we were, when we were doing young guns and they, uh, there, there was a big, you know, party that Fox was throwing and they wanted to sort of introduce it. And, and we were filming and it was on a day where myself, Kiefer and Dermit were not, you know, a part of the filming that day. So they put us on a, on a, on a lear jet. And, you know, we're flying us from Santa Fe to, uh, to, uh, to, L.A. And it was, first time I was ever on a small plane. So I'll suddenly like, ooh, ooh, ooh. you know, I'm something. And Scotch was involved. And we hit some turbulence and must have dropped a thousand feet or something.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah. It was, and Kiefer kind of rolled his eyes and, you know, went in his best, you know, lost boy's face looked at me and went, la la la la, la, bumba. That's eerie. Well, it's funny. You've made 50 movies, 60 movies. A hundred and seventy. 170.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I said 50 plus 60 and then add 30. Yeah. I didn't let me finish the math. Lou, let me finish. Well, standing the liver has, you know, pre, you know, 50 or 60. I'm conditioned to, you know, do the math.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Do the math. But you've also made some of my favorite television. Yeah, now that's 170 all in, you know, with TV and the films and everything else. I was going to add the TV after. You didn't let me finish. But Longmire. You got out the guy's show is working.
Starting point is 00:03:59 is how he operates. Longmeyer, for me, it was one of the first television shows that really tackled the West, like that cowboy, you know, the American Indian and how they live together now, contemporary type thing.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I mean, before Yellowstone, before all the stuff, now it's the hottest thing ever. And that show, for me, was like, I couldn't believe how edgy it was, just the way they took care justice and your role in that it was good it was like when you came back to you came to tv it was like you're a movie star all of a sudden i saw you on tv i was like oh my god and you're so good in that
Starting point is 00:04:38 oh thank you man yeah it was such a great show it is a beautiful day at the red pony and continual swore right he was the bar he owned the bar the red pony yeah and but it was the first i mean that was probably one of the first shows now every show kind of has this uh montana wyoming it's it's so i feel like i'm ahead of the curve so many times yeah you know i mean i mean I mean, the Wolf Lake was, you know, preceded all the twilight stuff. And, you know, it got pulled after nine episodes. Nobody was, well, it was 2001, so nobody was ready for a, you know, a werewolf, you know, drama. You know, the big hit, you know, was like, you know, Chinese Hong Kong action before, you know, Crouching Tiger.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Plus, it was like, you know, Hong Kong action plus hip hop plus, you know, just this weird hybrid. Nobody was quite ready for that. And I do think that, you know, we teed up the success of, you know, Yellowstone. Justified. Justified. Justified Yellowstone. All these shows. We were kind of out of the gate first.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Right, with like kind of authentic. It was very authentic is what it was. A lot of that stuff is kind of procedural. And it gets a little bit. That show to me was very authentic and very, you know, it wasn't the acting it. It was the best. That's what I love when they get great actors on TV to do shows is when it hits for me, you know. Sometimes, like I was just watching, like Madison.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And it's just like, oh my God. And then he has the other show, Marshalls, and it's like, it's a little procedural. This is what I've heard. Yeah. Yeah, I've not looked at the whole milieu. A lot of face acting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 You know, a lot of, I'm sad now. Oh, yeah. I'm mad now. Yeah. I always, it's like whenever I've taught acting, whatever, I say, you know, you really don't have to act thinking. You know, you don't have to put on, I'm thinking face, you know. It's like, just think, think something.
Starting point is 00:06:23 It'll look, you know, it'll look like you're thinking. Thank you. I needed that. Oh yeah, that really is the what do you do when you're not when someone's talking? Do I just nod the whole time? Yeah. Oh, it's the worst when the camera's on them and they have one on you and you just have to listen. Am I listening right? That's the hardest. It was one of the best compliments I ever got was from Soderberg. Oh, really? Yeah, I was in Che with Benicio and you know, and he legendarily only does a couple of takes. You know, and that's and all you know, if you're an insubleness, secure actor like me you're like what I think I could be better you prefer you prefer more takes no I just you know two is you know a little yeah I actually filled a movie with him where he shot it on an iPhone yeah and I and he had the iPhone he goes okay go action and then he did it and he goes
Starting point is 00:07:12 got it and I was like I didn't know he was doing it on an iPhone yeah I thought he was just winding up the shop nobody told me it was an iPhone movie yeah I was like what are we doing I don't understand it's crazy yeah but no he told me after the He goes, no, no, no, it's great. You listen really well. I went, oh, that's great. Thank you. Yeah, that is a good, it is a high compliment. Oh, it's so hard to listen to somebody and actually listen because there's so much stuff around it. I think I have a permanent raised eyebrow. They tell me when I get my eyebrows done, because whenever I've had to listen on camera, I go, yeah, raise the eyebrow. And my one eyebrow is permanently higher than my other, I think, from raising eyebrow to listen.
Starting point is 00:07:51 That's how few lines I have. It's how few lines I've had an average. acting roles is that most of it just going, I'll do that. I said, mm. You also were in Prodical Son, which was such an interesting show. Yeah, I love that show. I love that cast. It's why I live in New York now.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Right. You know, I came out here in 19 to do that. Great timing. Right? I feel like, you know, I ran the gauntlet and now I am a New Yorker because I made it through the pandemic, man. I was there at 7 o'clock beating my pots out the window.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I was doing all that stuff. But what a strange change. I said, I lived in the East Village at the time. And I said that was the crazy, going out on a Saturday night and just seeing like a piece of newspaper flying in the street. It was like, what was the, I am legend. It was so creepy. We're both stand-ups.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And they were still doing shows, but behind Plexiglass. Wow. So you can actually see you doing the set, which is the most distra. I'm like, I suck. Scratches. I suck. Someone came up and fogs it up and roads stop But in most of your films
Starting point is 00:09:03 You've been the good guy You're always You're such a I would say Good with bad in you if you need it, right? Are you talking about me personally? I'm talking about you personally, Lou? I've heard things about it.
Starting point is 00:09:16 You were bad with good. Since you moved to New York With good, yeah. But there was good to be pulled out of me. Yeah, well, you know, I got edgier, you know, All of a sudden, I got gritty. I'm not all Hollywood precious anymore. But yeah, no, in Casa Grande, I'm the big bad.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah, you're a bad guy in this. Yeah, I'm a bad guy. Yeah, but you're a bad guy that the worst type of bad guy because you come off is nice. Exactly. You're very charming and very nice, and you, you know, almost like you could be friends with anybody. Right, and I dress like I should be on a yacht, you know, or, you know, a ski lodge.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah, you're very fancy. you got money and then but you're a real you're a bad guy there's that there's you'll be happy to know though i mean there were a couple of physical scenes right and and at my age now i really i should have stretched i should have warmed up you know but yeah i got you know i beat the crap out of somebody and in like the next time i'm going why i'm so goddamn sore i'm my knees out of whack my hips my lower back it's you know the karma was instant do you do your own stunts did you do your own stunts in like young bugs did you You ride the horse and you learned all that. Yeah, no, I got the crap kicked out of me a lot back in the day.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You know, I've broken bones on, you know, shows and got scars and whatnot. You know, even today, I still do some stuff and I really should just go, you know what, let's just let the stunt guys do it, you know. Tom Cruise, I'm not, I promise you. It's got to be interesting we were saying outside, like you're, I mean, since LaBomba, I mean, like your work is so consistent and you keep going that, like, aging through that. And, like, everything's on film and seeing it. Do you feel like, like, the years where it was, like, things went from, like, these kind of roles to these kind of rolls? Like, is there, was it, or was it slow rolled out? It was kind of a slow roll, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:00 It's, you know, I'm the young leading man and, you know, I sometimes get the girl. Although I noticed, you know, like, early on, it's like they, I almost never got the girl. I've never been in a rom-com. They'd rather put me in the desert with a horse than a leading, you know. You know. Just feel better if they'd rather. rather just put us in the desert and if I do have a girl
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm gonna die you know they're gonna kill me you know so so but it's interesting because then you know I go from being the young rebel to suddenly now I'm
Starting point is 00:11:34 I'm an authority figure you know played a lot of cops and whatnot and and then you know dads and dad figures and stuff like that so it was this you know sort of slow evolution but I'm thrilled I mean it's like
Starting point is 00:11:47 you know to still be kind of a virile bad guy I am this. And I'm a good guy in a movie called, it's called Keep Quiet, but it's going to be changed to gangland. It's basically a training day on the res. I play a res cop. And that's coming out in July in theaters as well. The chair company, I'm the boss with Tim Robinson.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah. And I'm currently, this is announced so I can talk about it. I'm currently shooting a miniseries with Shalene Woodley and Lindsay Lohan, Kit Harrington, Catherine Lanasa. And I get to be the boyfriend. Nice. I'm a love interest. I'm still a retired cop, but, you know, I get to smooch a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:28 How old is she? With Shailene Woodley? I'll be honest with you. She says she uses natural deodorant. It's not with Shane. It's with the woman playing her mother. So you get to make out with? With Catherine La Nassas.
Starting point is 00:12:37 She's lovely. She's pretty, yeah. She just won the Emmy last year for the pit. Is this something that brings you, like, draws you to these, like, you know, this type of Western type of movie? Because I always pitched you That you had like some ranch somewhere And you had like a you know Like a Henry Repeater and you went out and you
Starting point is 00:12:54 Isn't that funny? My wife shot back This is one of my wife's Anything you've seen in a movie? This is one of my wife's biggest pet peeves She goes, hey, they Everybody thinks you wear boots and wear flannel You know and ride a horse or have a motorcycle
Starting point is 00:13:08 You know you read Shakespeare You owned a restaurant you cooked Did you marry Joan Rivers? Right Oh, oh, oh, oh. For a minute. So you don't do any of it? No, man.
Starting point is 00:13:21 It's all image. What do you say? You live in New York now. You're a New Yorker. I'm a New Yorker. You can have two houses. He made 170 movies. Nobody moves to New York for COVID if they have a ranch also.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That's not true. But I did grow up in Texas. That is true. So I did grow up in Texas. So, I mean, there is that. And that's obviously a part of my, I don't know, DNA, whatever. But I think. think, you know, you know, things like, you know, Casa Grande or, you know, even some of the other stuff I've got coming out where I'm one of the leads. It's, or even, you know, Longmeyer. It's, it's this sort of, you know, morality tale. I mean, you know, Westerns, even if they're contemporary, you know, are our fables. They are, you know, and science fiction is, you know, a Western with hardware for the most part. And it's, you know, these are stories that allow us to, to examine the human condition and, you know, questions of honor and dignity.
Starting point is 00:14:14 and, you know, loyalty and all of this other stuff. And, you know, that's very much what, you know, Casa Grande is. Like, it's got the Yellowstone DNA as well in the respect that it's about family. It's about the land. It's about, you know, they haves and they have nots. And my character's probably such a bastard because he had to, you know, scrape and claw his way to the top and now nobody's going to take anything from him, you know. And so there's something there to reflect upon.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And I, you know, I don't think I've ever played a guy who was just 100% evil. something other than like Richard Ramirez But yeah I mean there's that I mean that guy's troubled He was He was talking about the nice He really troubled
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yeah the nice talker Yeah I did that movie Even even one of me Like reading the book and playing the role You know I'm like he's like the Beavis and butthead Of serial killers He really is
Starting point is 00:15:03 You know But he did he had the look though Of serial killer Yeah Yeah like Jeffrey Dahmage just looked like a regular guy It was a hand The hand The pentagram right
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah he's he had He had the look of, oh, man, that's what a serial killer should look like. Yeah. How was it playing that? Was it was, did you have to, you had all the research? You had to know stuff that maybe we don't know? I went deep on that one. First of all, the book The Night Stalker by, is it Philip Carlow or Philip Caputo? It's very good. It's, it's, it, you see this guy was destined from, you know, age five to end up where he did. Maybe even, you know, in utero because his mom worked in the Nocona Boot Factory in El Paso.
Starting point is 00:15:39 So, you know, there might have been some, you know, toxic stuff going on there. And so the book was amazing. I got to, you know, watch obviously the videos and things like that. What's also wonderful, though, that character, by the way, was sort of the inspiration for Patrick Channing and the First Power. So for that movie, I wrote around with Detective Bob Grogan, who helped catch the Hillside Strangler. And then for the Nightstalker, I got to hang out with Detective Gilcarrio,
Starting point is 00:16:10 who was one of the guys that, you know, caught him. caught Ramirez and then interviewed him five times, you know. And he was there on the first day of, you know, shooting, and I was actually really proud because after I finished my first take, he went, oh, my God, you nailed it. You know, and I dropped a lot of weight because at the end of his life, Ramirez, he died of lymphoma, you know, in prison. So this is a fictionalized version of, you know, what went on.
Starting point is 00:16:37 But one night, I thought, okay, here's what I'm going to do. Because he used to just, like, you know, Rome, neighbor. that he didn't, you know, didn't know about, right? And he would just randomly pick the houses. And they were, they were so trying to figure out, you know, his victimology. Why did he pick who he picked? It was all just, you know, you know, whatever the whim caught him, right? So I thought, okay, I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I'm going to walk around her neighborhood that, you know, that I don't, you know, that I don't belong in, you know. As we know, we're alive on air. Yeah. Before you tell, this is a kid, you killed a family to. Oh, okay. All right. Oh, okay. Just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:09 This has a happy handy. It doesn't have a happy ending. So I put the, you know, a hoodie on and I think, okay, I'm just going to, you know, kind of, you know, method it, you know, walk, you know, so I drive, I park, I walk about a block and a dude, you know, and I'm looking at the houses, and a dude walking his dog walks past me and he goes, hey, Lou Diamond, love your work. God, this isn't going to work. When you play a role like that, do you have to find, especially because it's a real person, again, is it a, do you have to find a sympathy for them? sympathy is wrong word and I've said that you know I've taught acting a time or two
Starting point is 00:17:45 you know you can't judge you can't judge your characters if you're holding them at arm's length and you know trying to wink at the audience and go hey this isn't really me then you failed you know you have to at least while you're playing that role embrace their worldview
Starting point is 00:18:00 commit to it you know commit to the bit and and you know as much as possible be that without you know people I say oh, was the wife scared when you came home? No, no, because I'm not a psychopath. You know, but I've often told, you know, young actors,
Starting point is 00:18:17 it's like, listen, take the word no out of your vocabulary because you as a human being have the capability of doing anything. You could sit on a mountain for a year and meditate and, you know, try and, you know, be your best self or whatever. Or under the right circumstances, you could kill somebody. You just have to, you know, you literally just have to put yourself in those shoes and figure out under what, circumstances would I be similar to this character?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah. How do you... My wife yells at me for buying stuff off Amazon. You don't need it. That's it. That'll do it. Let me ask you quite... I'm sorry, go ahead. I was going to use the term method before.
Starting point is 00:18:54 How do you feel about that, like, where people go... I just watched the thing on American History X, and they were like, Fyruzibu wouldn't talk to or associate with any non-white members of the crew. I think eventually they go, after like a week of that, they had to come over and be like, hey, you're really making everybody uncomfortable. I know you're trying to do your thing here, but it's just making the actual ethnic people here a little uncomfortable. And they're trying to, like, do your hair and stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:21 You know, it's certainly something you studied in college and things like that. And people have made a whole career out of it. It's, you know, if that's what it takes. I mean, Daniel DeLuas sort of famously said, I have to do it this way because I'm not that good. I thought was, wow, wow, okay. But, you know, then it's so funny because I can't remember the actor that he was, but when he was doing Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Daniel DeLewis. Yes, when Daniel D. Lewis was doing Lincoln, though, he was working with another actor who was off camera and went and took off the, you know, the period shoes because they were uncomfortable and put on his tennis shoes. And Daniel's like, no, I'm the, please, you know, you must go put the shoes back home because it's taking me right after the scene. Yeah, that would mess me up, too, I looked over and I saw her pair of new balance.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? We said that as time went on. I'm curious what someone of the accomplished actors yourself would say. The Christian bail flip out. Do you remember that years ago? Yeah. It's funny, as I've gotten perspective on that, I've been like, sure, he's going a little hot, but I mean, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:20:28 We're supposed to be doing their job here. No, no, 100%. And, you know, it's funny because you take that tape out of context. I think he had every right to see what he had to say. It was in the middle of a freaking tape. and the DPs, you know, coming around and, you know, just, just doing it. But it was also a very intense and emotional take. And as an actor, man, it's, it's, it's, you don't flip that stuff on and off like a light switch.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You know, you, you know, you, you, you spend, you've spent a long time and, and you become very facile at going to that emotional place, you know, take after take and this and that. And it's, it's, it's not, your body doesn't know you're acting. When you're, when you're crying tears, you're crying in real tears, you know. And, and so, you know, if, if, if, if, if he is that. that deep into it in the middle of these takes and doing the job that's going to get him the kind of attention that he's gotten his entire career, some dude does not need to be tweaking the lights in his eye line. Yeah, some guy with a Napoleon dynamite shirt on. He's trying to be Batman.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Have you ever, like you've done so many movies, done so many iconic movies and TV, have you ever taken stuff? Do you have, do you, have you ever had, like, do you have stuff that you, yeah? Yeah, no, I don't, I don't have as much anymore. And most recently, I gave, I gave, that green guitar from La Vamba. I had it for 37 years, and I just donated it two years ago to the Academy Museum in Los Angeles. So it's theirs now? It's theirs, yeah. I gave it to them, and they're going to display it.
Starting point is 00:21:53 There's a wonderful, you know, coffee table book coming out about the donations, and I just wrote a little blurb about the guitar itself and whatnot. You know, I'm proud that it's going to be, you know, a part of cinema history, as it should be. Do you have any stuff from Young Guns? I had, oh, you know what, I still have? But I have the full costume of when I got shot up at the end of the first one. Really? Oh, wow. Blood stains and all.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I got that in plastic somewhere. Isn't it funny, though? You have it. You're like, I'm going to keep this. And it's just in a closet and it keeps moving places over the years. Exactly. That movie, those movies, both of them, especially from my age, I'm 48 now.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Like, that proceeds even, like, Tombstone is just like something that made, like, Westerns. Because Westerns to me were growing up, like, my grandfather, like, John Wayne. movies but I would see those on the TV and be like they didn't catch me. I still love them. Everything about... I love them. I know. I've just watched one last week. But like those, something about, you know, even when it says why it's hard to watch black and white when you're a kid
Starting point is 00:22:48 in the color world. It's like, somebody's just throwing you off about it. And I just never caught it. And those were the first where they're like, oh, it's a cool, you know, which was it proceeds like Tombstone Deadwoods. Always like cool, Western, with young people doing like the stuff. Well, it's true to because that movie had the music. You know, like most of the John Wayne thing. It was like, you know, the opening credits
Starting point is 00:23:05 were long. You have to have patience. watch those old westerns. And the acting... It just goes on forever. At the beginning. Yeah, it was a crazy... They make it from St. Louis all the way to the Great Devac. Real time.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Right there, yeah. But, you know, once again, you know, something that was ahead of his time. The Western was dead, according to Hollywood, and then Young Guns comes along and, you know, and makes money. And, you know, I really do think opens an door for some of those that came after, including Unforgiven, you know, which is brilliant. It's such a movie where it's like sometimes they don't realize how much the cast is part of it, especially in hindsight.
Starting point is 00:23:38 When they've remade, I used to use the examples, point break, flatliners. Or two movies where it's like, I don't know if it's the most amazing scripts. It's like you have these cast that brought it to life in like the right way, so you can't just put any actors in there and remake it. I think it was such a strange move when they did that. Like, oh, a successful movie.
Starting point is 00:23:55 We'll remake it with no one's anyone's ever heard of before. Were you part of that? You know, they had the brat pack. Were you part of that? Yeah, it was brat pack adjacent. You know, I'm, I'm the only brown brat packer. Right. You know, and the Sammy Davis. That's exactly right, babe.
Starting point is 00:24:11 You know, I was a cool cat on the fringes. But, yeah, man, it was, you know, because I hung out with all those cats, you know. Were you partying like them? Were you, like, crazy like that back then? No, no. I came to realize, especially after you hear, you know, stuff, you know, some of the stuff that Charlie did. And then, you know, like the ditty parties. And they go, man, I was the most boring guy in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I really was. That's good, though. I'm still here. Yeah, thank God. I fancy myself the same way we're just going to walk through the rain. It's just too naive to even get involved in it. Yeah. I just wasn't around the things that were happening.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Like, everyone's doing Coke. Like, where? Did I leave? Did I leave early, I guess? I guess I'll never try it then. You do leave early. You do leave early. You live early.
Starting point is 00:24:56 It's the Irish goodbye. He's just there for an hour. He takes a bite of a food and he's out. So this new movie, Yeah. Lou Diamond Phillips' new movie, Casa Grande, is in theaters on May... How does it feel to be in theaters, dude?
Starting point is 00:25:12 It's wonderful. Right? Because it's hard. I mean, I love going to the movies. I love going to the theater. And it's, you know, it seems like good movies are hard to find. It's all, like, weird stuff, blah, blah. Like, I saw the trailer for this as I can't wait to go see it.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah, so this one's fantastic. I do have to say, though, they keep seeing it's Lou Diamond Phillips' new film. You know, I'm the bad guy. You know, I'm not... I'm not the lead. This all came about because, you know, everybody else in the cast was in this series, and they gave him a fabulous send-off. You know, they wrapped it all up in a nice little bow, and then, you know, I came in to help out.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You're so humble. But it's the truth. You know what I'm saying? Do you go watch with the audience ever still? Yes. I missed the premiere of this one. I was just at the Dallas International Film Festival and finally got to see another movie. like I said, keep quiet slash gangland with an audience and people, they loved it.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And those reviews have been unreal. But yeah, to have this one and then that one, you know, coming out in theaters in July, it's quite an accomplishment. You know, if you don't have a $200 million budget and, you know, a cape, you know, you're not getting in. And a thousand streaming services that scoop things up now, too. Yeah, there's that. I mean, at least there's, you know, it will find its audience eventually. And, you know, it'll end up being on, you know, multiple platforms. I think it's a perfect movie.
Starting point is 00:26:35 It's what people are into on TV, and it's good to actually see a movie with, you know, this type of, tackling this type of topic. And you're a bad guy, and it's my favorite type of bad guy, just a smiling evil dude with a purpose, you know? Seems all charming and classy at first, you know. The mask comes off eventually. Yeah, it's great, man.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And you look fantastic. Why, thank you. I moisturize. Oh, yeah. I have told my 82-year-old mom. Right before the first. show that I was we were having you on and she said it disturbingly amount of time he's very sexy oh oh so Lou let your wife know you have options I was it brought it back to high school
Starting point is 00:27:17 you got a you'll keep her in line you get an 85 year old Jewish woman in Florida yeah if things don't work out no you know it's funny though man because uh we were talking about the stages of your career and it's like oh I had a crush you know and so now I get the middle-aged woman saying oh I have a crush on you, but I also get, you know, the younger people going, my mother loves you. It's the worst, you know. The girls in high school refer to young guns as young buns. Well, yes, indeed.
Starting point is 00:27:40 As well they should. So you got me. As well they should have. Costa Grande hits theaters May 1st. Make sure you check it out. Lou Diamond Phillips. Thank you so much for joining us. And check out, Pradical son is actually he's rejoining. That's coming back on very shortly.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I can't really see she's moving. Proto. Prontical daughter. Oh, that's the thing. Check out the prodigal son His TV show that's out is fantastic Check that out too It's uh It's don't watch me fail I thought that was up there too
Starting point is 00:28:10 It's on Netflix It's on Netflix right now It's one of my favorite shows Love it Stranger Things Tales from 85 I'm a voice in that as well Oh nice That's great
Starting point is 00:28:18 It's now on Netflix too Thank you so much We'll be right back It's the bonfire Thank you buddy All right There he is What's up buddy
Starting point is 00:28:28 How are you Thank you for having I don't have you go It's good Good to be here. Nice to meet you, everybody. Thank you for having me, man. Thank you for coming in, man.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I'm so excited. Riding the tiger, baby. Let's do it. Let's ride the tiger, man. I might ride the tiger, man. I might ride an elephant. I'm a little old to ride a tiger. Nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:28:46 All right. First of all... It's happening. You guys are bonding. First of all... I'll be on a tag. You'll be on an elephant. What are you going to be on?
Starting point is 00:28:54 I'll come. Fucking monkey or something. How do I say no to this? Everybody right now, we have young blood. Hello! Man, honor to be here. He's got a new episode of Youngblood radio premiering on Alt Nation, SiriusXM, Channel 36,
Starting point is 00:29:11 Mondays at 10, PM Eastern, also available on SiriusXM app by searching Youngblood. I slag you $20 later. That was a good talk, man, thank you. Just slag me, dude. I got to tell you, first of all, I've been a fan for so long. I've wanted you on the show for so long.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I know it's weird. for a 50-year-old man with a gray beard to be talking to you like this? 55. No, no. All right, dude. Oh, he's fucking stabging her right back down he. Wow. Why did you lie to him?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Because it's Youngblood. He's not casting you in a porn movie. Young is in the name, bro. All right? If he looked out in the crowd and saw me there, he'd be like, what's this guy doing there? Do you know what? Actually, it's been a beautiful to see, like, cross-generational people coming into the gigs at a minute. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:59 I think, like, Youngblood, I think initially. at first people are, I can't go to that because it's got young in the name. But like now, it's like we've got the old bloods, we've got the baby bloods, we've got the granny bloods, we've got everything, man. Do you have the diabetes bloods? Yeah, but I'll show up.
Starting point is 00:30:13 A little bit of diabetes, loads of blood types, those of it, man. Every blood site, welcome. Did you see a particular flip in that happening with something? Because, again, being young, and your name's Youngblood, old, especially like metalheads and rock guys are going to disregard young right away. So having crossed over, do you think there was a moment,
Starting point is 00:30:31 like somebody, Whether it was somebody endorsing you? Yeah, it's funny in it, because when you make a name, like my name's Dominic Addison, I couldn't fucking call myself that because it's too polite. I think it's great. You know what I mean? So I was like, when you, when I was like 18 and I started this thing,
Starting point is 00:30:47 I didn't expect for it to get big, so you just kind of like, yeah, that'll do. Like young blood, like whatever. And I love, you know what I mean? I grew up at a guitar shop and I love playing rock music, but I wanted people to be like, is that a fucking rapper? Or whatever. I mean, I kind of wanted to, I think, like, in my, Um, you fucking mic's crackling here.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Let me just, there we go, there we go, I got sort of, dodgy cable. Um, I was like, you know what I mean? I thought to myself, I want to fuck with people a little bit and, you know what I mean? Double the you, double the flavor. Right. Um, but then I think people, as it started to get bigger, a lot of people were like, oh, I don't think I can like this because the name's Youngblood. And I was, I was thinking to myself when I ate like 24, how am I going to do this thing forever?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yeah. So I thought I might have to do like a David Bowie Ziggy. He started us thinking, end that chapter. Right. But then we started our own festival, and I think I was like, I want to see what, it was coming to the gigs. You know what I mean? I want to see everyone in front of me.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And we started Bloodfest our own festival, and I saw, I saw, and mothers, brothers, families, cousins, granny, everyone. It kind of became... You crossed over, too, because you started out with Machine Gun Kelly's when I first saw you. Oh, really? Yeah, but I knew right when they popped onto you, I'm like, this kid's...
Starting point is 00:32:02 Got it. Oh, fun man. That one line and that, it was just like, this kid's got it. It almost reminded me of like, you know, like a lead front man. Like, I feel like we don't have, we were talking about this the other day, like rock and roll, the front man. I love that vibe, man. I grew up on Jagger and I grew up on Iggy and I grew up on Freddie Mercury and I grew up on those guys, you know. And I think, I think really I'm kind of trying to fight for that level of theater and performance in rock music.
Starting point is 00:32:31 You know, I think kind of... It's lost. It's lost a lot. After New Metal, everyone kind of put their head down and started looking at the fucking shoes. Yeah. And I'm like, nah, man, I'm going to put my chaps on and shake me ass.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah. But it takes something. That takes something. Because the first time you do it, like, it's interesting. It's me and Bobby are both comedians. So it's almost like the idea is to be played down more a little bit and kind of like take a shit on theatrical kind of things.
Starting point is 00:32:59 But if me and him both love comedy, and you go to concerts, I want to see the frontman. Yeah, you want to fucking like that. Posturing and doing all the things. But is it a thing when you start doing it, is there the first, like, is everyone going to buy this when I turn around and do a scantily clad dance? I think, I think that my own gigs people like it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:17 The more ass the better. Right. I mean, more, more. I say that. The peacocking and all that shit. You know what I mean? That's actually my merch. The more ass the better.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah. Good man, man. I fucking like that. Can I ask you a question about that? How does it feel to be able to wear leather pants and and a skirt and look good in both. It's a vibe, I like it. It just depends on a fucking day, don't it?
Starting point is 00:33:39 I mean, you, I've always my life, my whole life I've wanted to wear leather pants, but I've been fluctuating and weight so much, I would just look like just a real cow. Can I tell you, I'll tell you what crazy. Basically, me leather pants that I wear now are actually Biggie Pops' original Chrome Arts lovers.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Right, and it's a, so my girlfriend's father started a clothing company with a mother in the 80s called Chrome Arts. And I remember looking at these pants and it was sized 28 ways. And I loved a lager. You know what I mean? I drink a lot of fucking beer. Yeah. So at the time, I was a bit bigger than I am now.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I'd like, I had tits and everything, you know what I mean? You lost a little weight. I'm going to tell you, you gained a little during the pandemic with your food show you were doing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying? I was like, fucking. It was in the pandemic. You know what I mean? I was literally eating like fucking David.
Starting point is 00:34:31 like chicken raising canes and like you're really showing him though that you were a fan i remember what i heard about you the first time um you still had longer hair and was bobby showing me he's like you got to check out this guy in this uh machine gun Kelly video and i didn't even get to drink the song in it first because just the bright colors and a uh a pile of women or while you guys are on top of a car like sing i'm like what caught you about this i'm young blood at heart You know, as we spent a lot of time in cars alone So Dogging
Starting point is 00:35:07 The behind closed doors singing along It can go, you can get weird sometimes Yeah, yeah, yeah Well, I think it was cool too Because you always see an artist you like And you did come up in that little alternative punk stuff Yeah But then your evolution when you
Starting point is 00:35:22 When you hooked up with Ozzy I mean, I think that was It was always kind of I think When I look back on it It's been such a crazy journey because I, my old man had a guitar shop, so I grew up in a northern guitar shop, so I grew up on bands like, Zeppelin, ACDC, T-Rex, you know what I mean, that's what I grew up on,
Starting point is 00:35:43 and then you kind of hit 16, 17, 18, and you start getting into the punk stuff and you start getting into all that. And I think, um, always a constant in my life was, was Ozzy, you know, and Sabbath. I think, I think there's such a staple of British rock music, you know, I mean, they kind of invented it, really, you know what I mean? In terms of, in terms of, I think, an artist that started 16 different subcultures was really Sabbath, you know, and the Beatles before that. But I loved kind of, I felt really lucky because I think kind of almost like when you're young, you write music that might pigeonhole you into, oh, pop, pop, and kind of juvenile stuff, you know, I mean, which you do at 19, because you're just like singing about what you're feeling.
Starting point is 00:36:37 But I always loved proper fucking rock and roll music, and I felt so lucky and blessed that I got to kind of have someone put their arm around me like that and almost prepare me for the world I was about to enter, and prepare the world to be like, oh, rock music in its truest form and it's fucking madness and it's, leather and its theater is going to kind of rear its head again and I felt really
Starting point is 00:37:06 I felt like it was like that when you went out and sang that song changes I mean that's if you fucked that up if you fuck that up dude it's a rap you gotta go call machine gun Kelly up I didn't sleep I didn't sleep a fucking wink the night before I was like
Starting point is 00:37:23 I was like I remember we were in Birmingham and I think kind of I was obviously to probably the only artist on a bill under 35. Under fucking 50, really, I think. And I was like, I just knew the next day. And like, I knew that a lot of people were like,
Starting point is 00:37:42 who the fucks this kid. Oh, you're going to get the, oh, here we go. And it's a metal crowd. You know what I mean? It's not like a fucking, I'm not walking out to a fucking radio, happy-dappy fucking cheese show. I'm walking out to badass motherfuckers who've flown all over the world. Because your fan base is very supportive.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Yeah. And that starts surviving. Like metal audience, but I think what really kind of kept me grounded was I was just like, forget everything. Say thank you to the boss. Say thank you to Ozzy, singing for him. I remember the morning I was in the hotel and had me levers and a fucking vest or a black suit. And I was like stood there like, which one? What do I wear?
Starting point is 00:38:19 And I picked a black suit. And I think kind of when I put that on, I was like, oh, it kind of, it made, I wanted to feel respectful. You know what I mean? It was like that it was there. It was, it was Sabbath's funeral, really. It was the last, it was the last gig,
Starting point is 00:38:34 so I was like, I'm going to go there. But the rough thing about that is everyone's like, you know what I mean? Before me, you had like sweet leaf and NIB and fucking like, and then it's like, all right, here's the fucking young Spunker
Starting point is 00:38:46 going to come and sing a ballad. You know what I mean? Me and a piano, 50,000 metal fans. I think like James Etfield and Robert Trulio side stage going, all right, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Let's see what you got. It surprised me even as young as you are that it would keep you up the night before because like do you push your voice like every time you sing or is like I feel like it's something like if you sing it in like your key which you have like a great voice
Starting point is 00:39:12 like you could like just do it like it would be almost not thought That's a high fucking song You know I mean people don't realize how high Ozzy Osbourne's voice is You know I mean if you listen to like no more tears or you listen to fucking high singing It's so unique too
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah so unique So you kind of like you've got a go on and you've got to really make it your own no matter what but I think we'd done the sound check the night before and it was kind of like sick as fucks like Frank Bello from Amfrax's playing like Adam Wakeman's
Starting point is 00:39:41 playing I'm like this is fucking cool as fucking like you know I mean every motherfucker that was on my wall as a kid like oh there's Kirk Hammett oh shit that's fucking that's literally Billy Corgan oh you know I mean I'm like what the fuck that's Jake Ely and that's crazy shit did anybody give you cold shoulder at all
Starting point is 00:39:57 No, everybody. It was actually the nicest. It's like the most, the backstage with the least ego I've ever fucking been at. And I'm like, how many records is here? There's like a billion records in this room.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You know what I mean? And it was so amazing. I think for the first time, for six generations, seven generations, a rock musician to come together in the name of them, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:21 and the name of that band. And I think it's just cool when you see Giza, Bill, Tony and Oz. like together at Villa Park, which is their stadium. And after like 60 years of playing together, they finally got. Was that your first stadium? That was the first stadium.
Starting point is 00:40:38 But the artist thing about that day was the reason why I was fucking didn't sleep at Wink because I was shitting myself because I had to play the gig at half three in the afternoon at the Aussie thing. They had to get on a jet and fucking headliner festival in Belgium. Right. Oh, Jesus. That night. So I was like, I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So I was like rattle. in bed. Imagine the kid working at his dad's guitar shop saying that sentence. Buddy, I was fucked up. I had to jump on a lear jet and go to my own fucking stadium tour. So we all got problems. After performing for, you know, those old guys. I think that was what was the most beautiful thing about it really was like, I think if you
Starting point is 00:41:20 kind of, you know, a lot of people still don't get me or believe me or don't fucking think. You know what I mean? I don't want to believe it for various different reasons. But I think when you kind of, the one thing that makes you calm, you shut your eyes and just go like, what the fuck, bro, like if I was eight years old getting told that I would get to go and sing this song for Ozzy right now, I think that moment I thought about all the lads bringing me up in the guitar shop
Starting point is 00:41:48 and all that shit, that's kind of what allows you to not let the pressure get to you. Because, you know, I think if you're grateful, and you're real and you're thankful, how the fuck can people hate that? Buddy, if you told me when I was 54 that I'd be sitting in the studio at Youngblood at 55, I would have thought. Go on, man.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I lost my shit, dude. I'm so grateful right now. Damn, he's at a time machine to go back and tell him, it's going to be okay, man. It's going to be all right, bro. It's so funny, but, like, after you, I want to know, like, because we all, we've had big gigs that we've done arenas
Starting point is 00:42:24 and stuff on these shows where it's like you're sitting, backstage you're like if you know as a comic if you bomb they let you know quick oh yeah fucking yeah it's just you know to say a joke but at the end of that when you knew you fucking nailed it the place is going nuts it's generations of rock and roll yeah and you're there and then you with Aussie and all that stuff how did you how like how how how what did you do it how much energy did you have after that i mean i think i think the first the ending bit where everyone sang together
Starting point is 00:42:57 was not planned. I think, because I knew that Oz was getting there at 3.30. Yeah. And we were on at like 3.45. So I knew he just got there. And I knew he was nervous
Starting point is 00:43:08 because obviously he was in a chair. You know what I mean? He couldn't get up. So in my head, I'm kind of on and the first verse and chorus has gone well. And I can see people literally starting like this. And everyone's kind of being like,
Starting point is 00:43:21 oh, fuck. And it was almost like a moment where I was like, I feel so grateful to him and Sharon because they almost like gave me that David and Goliath moment because you can't bullshit that song. No. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:34 If it's like if there's fucking metal riffs and guitar and you stood next to Jake E. Lee and you stood next to Chad Smith and they're ripping the instruments, you can kind of hide underneath it. But with that, I had a piano and fucking... So after I kind of got through the first verse and the first chorus, I was like, oh, people are... I think I'm getting...
Starting point is 00:43:53 I think I'm getting to me. I'm getting to me. And then the solo went by, and at the end I was like, all right, motherfuckers. I'm a really fucking get you right now. Because in my head, I wanted Oz to hear 55,000 people screaming so much love. So he had not, like, I knew he was nervous. We had nothing to worry about. I knew it was all love.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I knew it was all the vibe, which it was anyway. But in my head, I was like, I really want him to hear that, and I really want him to feel it. And I remember getting off stage. And I don't, you don't know how it's gone. You know what I mean? Because you're so fucking in it And I'm like, look at me, best mate It was my manager
Starting point is 00:44:28 I'm like, was that all right? And he was like, bro, What the fuck? How excited. His 10% just got real big. I'm not like, and it literally like, the nightmare
Starting point is 00:44:42 you see Sharon Osborne doing this. Yeah, brother. Ozzy's like this. Yeah, in your head, yeah, the nightmare like you're getting pissed thrown at you fucking like. James Etfield fucking sucker
Starting point is 00:44:53 She's on the way off the stage. You know what I mean? Your manager's not there. I mean, managers run off. That's what you should have done. He's got fucking flayed at the top of the fucking... He's talking to Tommy Lee. Literally, literally.
Starting point is 00:45:04 As soon as you finish your song, you should have nut-checked all Metallica. Hey, nice to meet you guys. I've been young blood. That would have been fucking hard. But then you get off stage and everyone's like, what the fuck? And we all did a shot in the dressing room.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And then I was... It was crazy. And I kid you not, we landed in Belgium. We went on stage at 10 p.m. And I was like full of fucking beans. Yeah. Like full of spunk, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I was like, let's go. I was just like, what the... You know what I mean? I was like, got on a jet, kept drinking, uh, landed at like seven. I had some fucking chicken or some shit. And then it was like... That's what I do love about you.
Starting point is 00:45:44 You are thin as shit. You lead singer fucking smoking vest on a shirt. And you got to do it. But you eat shit. You don't give a fuck. You eat like an Englishman Yeah, man I'm going to do it
Starting point is 00:45:57 Man That's the way I get away with it My missus always said She's like, got to have a beer tub on you man Like you know what I mean Like chocolate biscuits And fucking
Starting point is 00:46:05 Pizza or chips Fishing chips Lager Tea Shepherds Pie What's up with the tea Can we talk about the tea? Fucking what's wrong
Starting point is 00:46:14 What's wrong What's wrong What's wrong I'm American You just fucked up Bobga You just fucked up big You fucks up
Starting point is 00:46:19 Right now I love a good tea I'm a chai guy That's not English tea. But I have a British store near my house and they have all this tea and I don't know what fucking tea. I'm going to send you with some right fucking tea.
Starting point is 00:46:32 You're going to send me tea? Because PG tips is a crime. I'm going to slide off my chair right now. Liptons or PGTips is a load of bollocks. What is it? Lipton's? Garbage. Leptens? Garbage. Gertley's garbage. Gertley's garbage. There's one tea in the world and it's where I'm from. It's called Yorkshire tea. Yorkshire fucking tea. You're going to say it like that.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah. You're going to sound like an asshole. No. Jay, you don't know what you're fucking talking about. I'll leave a fucking twist. That's my China. That's my China. That's me China. You don't even know what that means, do you?
Starting point is 00:47:02 Fine China. Plate, mate, China. What's up? Yeah, I've been practicing. All my favorite things is the British slang. Do you know, British slang? Like, I'm going up the apples and pears. Yeah, I just bought a book on it.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I know some from when I worked with Jim Jeffries. It was, he was giving me, because he lived there for a while. I was calling your girl your bird. Yeah, me bird. because I thought he was talking about his own dick to me. He goes, I can't wait for me to meet my bird. I go, I'm not fucking you, dude. I love that.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Jim, I don't know what you think this is. But there's all these old cockney slang where we rhyme everything. So up the apples and pears means stares. Or if I say, let's have a butchers. What do you think that means? Let's have a fucking butcher's. Let's have some steak. No, nowhere near.
Starting point is 00:47:49 All right, ready? Let's have some butchers. Let's have a butcher. Let's have a butcher. Let's have a butcher. So what it means is let's have a look. Let's have a butcher's hook. Let's have a look.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Fuck, I love this goddamn language. It's a load of bollocks, really. I don't know why to say. Let's have a fucking batches. But yeah, at York's your tea, I'll send you some. You can get like 200 tea bags. Now, are you going to send? Do you need my address?
Starting point is 00:48:12 I'll send it here, don't we? Trying to take me. You can have some guys send me? Yeah. I told my wife, I'm going to meet young blood. She goes, relax. I'm going to have. You're going to be walking down fifth family
Starting point is 00:48:23 Some cunt in a bowl of that's gonna throw two hundred tea bags at you Me'll be like that's from Youngblood motherfucker Tea time So now you got you You're at this next level of Performing your It's kind of like on your shoulders Because you know I came up with Arrowsmith
Starting point is 00:48:44 And you know the Molly crew And you know all these lead singers Pearl Jam I had to say that for Lou because that's his Man, Eddie. But there's a lead... You sang with him. Yeah, crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Oh, were you sang with Eddie? Yeah, that was amazing. Did he give a speech in the middle of a song? Did you know what? No, he didn't. We were very, we were very quiet. Oh, yeah. We just got the fucking business done.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Is he cool? Fucking legend. Legend. Absolute legend. The Veds, man. That wasn't my question. Is he cool? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 He's nice. Yeah, fucking lovely. Who's been kind of shitty to you? That's what I were now. Do you know what, man? It's never really rock. It's always fucking, it's always like rappers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I remember once... That's Black Lou laughing. You saw it coming. I remember I did a... I remember I did a music video for one of my mates and it was like... Like, this guy called, like,
Starting point is 00:49:36 a rapper called Polo G. Didn't even look at me. Really? And we're like on set together. Really? I mean, you kind of like... You stood next to each other like doing a fucking scene
Starting point is 00:49:45 and it's like, don't even look at you. I was like, ah, that's not cool. That sucks. Did the song go? go anywhere no dog shit oh good but that's all right man in the rap days but i was like everyone in rock and roll i think there's something about it where i don't know man it's just like good dudes you know i mean like every when i like you always shit yourself because you never want to meet
Starting point is 00:50:08 your heroes but every time i've met my heroes everyone's been really nice well you got i mean it is a little on your shoulders as bobby said in some way to like i mean the lack of representation of rock music in grammies and MTV Award, it's gone. It's funny weird. When I was young, like, you look forward. I said the famous, like, the Marilyn Manson closing out the MTV Awards with his ass cheeks. It was like, huge.
Starting point is 00:50:30 All these, like, Metallica had. All these moments. And then they've got, they're gone. Yeah. It's pretty fucking crazy. But I feel like, I feel like you're, like, when I saw you do that changes, I was like, oh, he's, he's the next one. He's the guy who's going to, he's going to be able to bring rock and roll back,
Starting point is 00:50:45 the lead singer, the clothes, the coolness. It's all on you. Me and Jay. We're depending on a movie. I think it's a real, it's pretty crazy. A lot of people have said that. But in my head, I'm still a nine-year-old in the guitar shop who just loves this genre.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Right. You know, that's all I've got. You know what I mean? I learned, first songs I learned on guitar were like, Trooper Ryan Maiden and Deep Purple, all that stuff, you know. It's kind of what I grew up with. And again, I feel really lucky because I think in this day and age, there's so much option to do so many different genres of music.
Starting point is 00:51:25 You know, you try it and you try it, but to kind of, I feel like I'm backing me, dad's, well, it's fine. I always say it's to kind of the, say what you will about kid rock, but like when I was young, the effect of that was like, someone who kept telling you, like, it's what hit me about it, he was like, yeah, I'm rap. I'd listen to country, heavy metal, you know, and like, you know, classic rock, and he was influenced by all that. Because there was a time where it was, especially when I was like a young kid,
Starting point is 00:51:48 when rap was like even coming out and getting big it was like you liked rap or you liked rock you know what they didn't know it didn't cross over at all you just wouldn't even give the other genre a chance why almost no one up north listened to country music because you're like why might even give it a chance it's not my music
Starting point is 00:52:03 yeah yeah it was so segregated and I think I think what's what is exciting about rock music and I mean is I think like it's like spherical like Amel and the Sniffers are doing sick shit in punk music and turnstile are great and hard
Starting point is 00:52:18 core and but for me what I really want to do is I loved theater and I love fucking I loved estrogen in frontman Scott Weil and fucking Jagger shaking the hips you know what I mean and I think like that kind of got beaten out of us in like the 90s you know what I mean it was all about like where the fuck did the hips go the hips got fucking you know what I mean broken didn't uh like like you're looking at two guys with no hips that's right he's even like a band like turnstile who are They're great. I just watched their Coachella set. And they were fantastic.
Starting point is 00:52:52 But it is, it's just guys. It's like there's, there's nothing like where you're like, oh, this guy just knocked loose. Yeah, knocked loose. I love not loose.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Great, like, bam, but it's like, it's just, like, there's not like a front man energy to that. Yeah, I love, I love, that's the thing for me. What I,
Starting point is 00:53:08 in my head, rock lost the role. Oh, wow. That's what I think. And it's not a bad thing. I don't give a, I love all types of rock music. I love metal. I love new metal. I love fucking hardcore. I love punk. I love glam. I love it all.
Starting point is 00:53:23 But to me, when I make, like, people question me because I want to put the role into it. So that's not rock music. I'm like, to me, the fucking Rolling Stones are rock music. To me, Little Richard is rock music. Like, Freddie Mercury is rock music. You know what I mean? I think, like, that's what I listen to. That's what I listen to the most. You know what I mean? go see a front man do his thing and be crazy and come out and something nuts that's what you want you want to and i enjoyed i enjoy pissing people off yeah so i think that's why i'm all right with it i don't give a fuck if you ate me i mean i'm inspiring some kind of um emotion you know also you're also your you know it's young blood is the act so when they come to see you
Starting point is 00:54:08 the whole show falls on you it's not like your guns and roses so everyone's like yeah that slash and that stuff. And I love it. It's like you have to do, you have to like make them keep your eyes on you the whole time. Performance, performance is my favorite thing.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Like if you have a fucking issue with me, you don't believe me or you don't fucking think I'm worth my soul. Come watch me. I'll blow you fucking away. I swear. Yeah, you do. I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:31 that's the vibe. If like, there's anyone out there who thinks I'm a cheeky little cunt. I am. Are you going to, I know you're going to wrap it up. We've got to get you to another show,
Starting point is 00:54:40 but are you going to do because you have such a cool look, you're so badass. And you're such, are you going to do any acting? Is there any acting? Because I know you get acting. I get, I got asked a couple times. I went to him, I went with my mate to a fucking Oscars party in, in L.A. And everyone's like, you got to be in a movie, man.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And I was so fucking drunk. I remember I kept taking people's number, but I never saved anyone's name. So I'm like, what? I'm like, hello, it's fucking this. You've got to be in this movie, so I have no idea. He's got a number. It's this guy Richie's number. Literally.
Starting point is 00:55:14 just comes through it's Texas no number is I just a second he's fucking hello who is this it's Tim Tim Tim who's fucking
Starting point is 00:55:20 Burton I'll be like that's sick young blood Spielberg a great hang last night I was like were you there
Starting point is 00:55:27 Steven anyway grum's and three it's a go yeah I'll do it bro all right well listen man thank you so much for coming
Starting point is 00:55:35 thank you so much I hope you come back in if you're ever in town I'm fucking down man let's have a couple of beers you're on Radio City yeah radio city if you all want to come
Starting point is 00:55:43 I'll get you tickets will get pissed up man because i've got a day off after it so we can be out yeah i'll be sober but i never had problems so i can drink with you i use better help it's online therapy it's all right man you can just have a couple of croys or fucking like no i do blow just because just that when you know that my boy over here is hardcore the problem was he had to go to rehab when he was like 13 i was 15 i got sober when i was 15 yeah i respect that thank you buddy he was younger blood 40 years so he was 40 years, 40 years, that's gangster.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Fucking great at math too. Yeah, 40 years sober. 55 minus 15 is 40. I couldn't have done it. He's just trying to find out how inappropriate your relationship is. All right, well, listen, check it out. Thank you for having me, man. Yeah, new episodes of Youngblood Radio premieres on All Nation,
Starting point is 00:56:34 SiriusXM, Channel 36 Mondays at 10 p.m. Eastern, also available on this SiriusXM app by searching Youngblood. Yeah, Youngblood is on tour right now. Dates coming up in Michigan, Toronto, Columbus, Cincinnati and Annapolis, and more for the tickets and all of the tour dates. Visit youngblood Official.com. Thank you. You're as cool and nice as I thought you. Lots of love, man. I'll see you all later.
Starting point is 00:56:57 If you can't be good, be fucking careful.

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