the bossbabe podcast - 159. How to Find Your True Purpose with Sahara Rose

Episode Date: April 13, 2021

Join BossBabe Co-Founder & President, Danielle Canty with special guest Sahara Rose as they talk through the nine Dharma archetypes and unpack how understanding Dharma can help you reach your true purpose. Use code “BOSSBABE20” to save 20% on Soul CBD: https://www.mysoulcbd.com/ 99designs by Vistaprint: https://99designs.com/bossbabe Follow:  BossBabe: @bossbabe.inc Danielle: @daniellecanty Natalie: @iamnatalie Sahara Rose: @iamsahararose

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Their products are 100% organic, zero THC and third-party tested and you can get them at mysoulcbd.com. And whilst I can speak to my personal experiences using Soul CBD, our bodies are all different so please consult a doctor or other medical professional prior to deciding if CBD is right for you. Also worth noting that I live in California where it is legal to purchase and use CBD. So just give it a little check to see if it's legal where you are. The universe wants you to be living your dharma. It's the only way the whole world can come into balance if everyone is living their purpose that they signed up for on this planet. So the universe responds in the only language that we humans can understand, which is pain. Welcome to the Boss Babe podcast, a place where we share with you the real behind the scenes of building successful businesses, achieving peak performance, and learning how to balance it all. I'm Natalie, and I'm joined by Danielle. We are both co-founders of Boss Babe and we are hosting this episode. So this one is all about discovering your purpose,

which I think for a lot of people is a really overwhelming thing. I don't know about you, Danielle, but I still sometimes wonder, do I know what my purpose is? And it changes a lot as I get older, as I grow, as I learn, I feel like it changes. I don't know if you feel like you've got a really set one or if you're the same. No, totally. And I'm so glad you said that because I feel like there's so much pressure on it these days. Like, oh my God, what's your purpose? And you're on purpose. It can be so overwhelming. Like, I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. But I think for me, it's just really been like settling into who I am. And for me, those are different ways that you can define purpose. But for me personally, it's just around doing the things that I love that feel very aligned with myself. And so there

can be so much weight added to this, but it's doing the things that give you energy. And in this interview, Sahar and I go into this a ton because there are so many different ways to look at your purpose or discover what your dharma is. And I mean, to be honest, I didn't even know what dharma was before this episode. And there's loads of ways that you can drill down there. But I think just like you, Natalie, I think it changes. And Sahar actually acknowledges that during this episode as well, that it can change as you go through different stages of your life. And that's okay. Yeah, I know. I think you're right about the pressure side and it's crazy. I think there's so much pressure across the board right now. It's like, especially during COVID, you're expected to be so many different

things and still be showing up. And even though the world is going back to normal, I don't know, I've definitely felt if things don't feel normal yet, it still feels like there's this confusion around getting back to normal and then there's so many people seem to be doing it really effortlessly I think I definitely just feel the pressure all around on social it's nuts yeah it just feels very intense right now there's just like you know when you walk into a room and there's like a little bit of like an atmosphere it kind of feels like that that's what life feels like right now I know I wonder if that's going to change. I wonder how long it's going to change. Like when we start getting back to normal.

This sounds, maybe you relate, but like I am capable of wearing normal clothes. I cannot seem to get my shit together. Like all I do is live in really comfy clothes. Even when I'm going out like in Austin, I think it's probably more normal than in a lot of places in the world. I just can't get my shit together. Natalie, I'm not joking. It literally put me off moving to Miami because they wear normal clothes.

They just wear normal clothes, very high heels. The women there, and if anyone's listening from Miami, wow, you guys are phenomenal. I was like, whoa, I live in yoga pants these days. I put jeans on once a week on a Saturday if I'm really lucky. I don't wear heels anymore. I tend to wear my trainers. So yeah, I'm not going to fit in in Miami and I'm going to stay in LA. I wonder like how long it's going to take us to get back to normal with that. I'm trying to think about what life was like beforehand. For anyone listening,

I feel like we're probably all in the same boat. We're feeling pressure from all sides of things. And if you take anything from this interview, I think it's know that your purpose is gonna change all the time. And if you're feeling pressure to be, do you have something any other than where you are, what you have right now,

just acknowledge that and realize you really are trying your best and take away some prompts and ideas of certain things that feel aligned with you and journal on it, explore it. Don't feel like you need to have everything figured out yesterday. Okay, so Danielle, do you want to tell everyone a bit about Sahara? Yeah, Sahara is amazing. So Sahara is actually a best-selling author of Discover Your Dharma, Eat, Feel Fresh, and An Idiot's Guide to

Ayurveda. She also hosts the Highest Self podcast, which I think is the number one spirituality podcast on iTunes. And her latest book is all about helping you to find your true purpose, which I know, like we've just been discussing, if you're listening to the podcast, you are absolutely going to love. And I share in it my journey around struggling with finding my purpose as well. And just like I've alluded to with Natalie just now, i think it changes a lot so if this is something you're interested in i know you're going to absolutely have so many takeaways from this episode and so how actually goes through her quiz and all the different types of archetypes there are to your dharma and your purpose so it's a jam-packed knowledge-filled episode and for anyone wondering what the hell is a dharma it's really a way of saying soul's purpose it's nothing fancy and fun fact I actually bought Sahara's Ayurveda course before I even knew her now she's a really close friend but I bought her course and I was blown away by the way she approaches and makes things like Ayurveda a lot more approachable I think that's why she's so successful because you're right she literally makes things really not in a basic that takes away from it but in a way that you can really understand and get to

grips with it which i think is really really powerful and you'll hear my opening question i was like what is your dharma tell me everything so if you're coming into this feeling like you have to know all this knowledge you don't we're literally going to be chatting about that in this full episode amazing let's dive in a boss babe is unapologetically ambitious and paves the way for herself and other women to rise, keep going and fighting on. She is on a mission to be her best self in all areas. It's just believing in yourself. Confidently stepping outside her comfort zone to create her own vision of success. Welcome to the Boss Babe podcast, Sahara. I am so excited to have you on here. It's just so amazing to connect. I'm so excited to be here. I love your guys' podcast. Love you guys and

excited to bring that juicy, good, good Dharma wisdom. I know. And that's the thing I love about chatting with you because I always feel like you have such a different take on things to me. I always learn stuff when I'm around you and I'm like, oh, like even like Dharma, I was like, oh my goodness, I am so excited to do this because it's something even I don't know much about. And I feel like so many listeners are actually going to relate to that. And when I'm with you, you just have such beautiful energy and wisdom. So I'm really excited to share that with our audience and all your juiciness and

all the amazing material that you can share. So thank you for coming on, first of all. So you alluded to it just then, and I want to really dive in. We're like, no fluff, no BS. So let's dive in. First of all, I want to talk about Dharma. And I'm going to start right at basics because I know a lot of people are going to be the same as I was. What is your Dharma? What is that? What does it mean? So just give us a bit of a high level summary. Your dharma is your soul's purpose. It's the big reason why you are here. And it's so much more than just one career or one role you play, one project you work on, but it's more like your mission statement. So your dharma may be to bring beauty to this world or to

connect ancient and modern spirituality or to help people connect back to this world or to connect ancient and modern spirituality or to help people connect back to their bodies or to make people feel a type of way. So it's more of this overarching mission statement. And then underneath that mission statement are the services, right? So the services could be careers you have, roles you play, projects you work on, experiences in your life that go underneath your dharma. So for example, someone's dharma may be to bring beauty to this world. And they may have a time in their lives, they're a wedding planner, and then they're a graphic designer, and then they're a florist, and then they're a fashion designer.

And they may be kicking themselves saying, oh my God, I must not have a purpose because I'm not like Sarah Blakely who had this one thing her whole entire life. So something must be wrong with me. But really she was living her Dharma the whole time. She was bringing beauty to this world in all of these different ways. So your Dharma is really your soul's frequency. It's that unique magic sauce that only you can bring to the table. So again, it's not just what you do, but it's also why you do it and how you do it. So there are millions of yoga teachers around the world, but we all have our favorite yoga teachers because of the essence they bring in, the way they sequence, the way they talk, the stories they give. So many business coaches, so many of any career, but it's the unique

interpretation, the filter, the experiences you have that make you doing it so unique. And that's really what your dharma is, integrating also the things that you're the most ashamed about. Oftentimes, we try to keep those things in the corner of maybe you are still depressed, but you're helping people with self-help, or you found your meditation practice when you were in prison, or whatever the story is. For me, I love to DJ, I love to dance, I love to twerk, and I'm a spiritual teacher with three books with forwards by Deepak Chopra. So at first I was like, oh my God, I can't let anyone know about this side of me. But the more I integrated the parts of myself that I had shame about, the more I actually stepped into my dharma to allow my people to find me. So essentially your dharma is your soul's frequency that you carry to

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to all of my clients and students so if you're listening and haven't checked out kajabi yet now is the perfect time to do so because they are offering boss babe listeners a 30-day free trial go to kajabi.com slash boss babe to claim your 30-day free trial. That's kajabi.com slash boss babe. Oh my goodness. There's so many things that I want to touch on this point. And one thing that just saying there is like, it's all of you. And I think sometimes as like, I'm not going to say women, I think I can say women, but just general people, like we sometimes feel like, oh, people only want this good side of me or this certain side of me and we look at it as a good and bad but it's not it's like a whole of us and like you said these different parts of us add to those beautiful parts the shadow side adds to those beauty parts as well

and like how that's all incorporated is just so so interesting and what I love so you kind of related it to a little bit like a mission statement. And for a lot of us who either are in the corporate world or we have our own businesses, like mission statements, like something that gets utilized a lot and you like very much know your company mission statement and where you're going. And so in this context though, because you were talking around like it might be bringing beauty to the world. Is this more like in a overarching sense? What are some other examples, I guess is what I'm asking. What are examples of being in your dharma?

You're sharing beauty with the world. What are some other examples to help people ground this? So the way that each person verbalizes their dharma, how specific they get is really up to them. So I believe we have more overarching, like to bring beauty to this world or to entertain or to make people understand deeply as larger ones. But then throughout our lives, we have different specific missions, soul contracts, as I would say. So underneath that bringing beauty to this world for a period of time,

it could be through bringing beautiful graphic design to social media or to help people have the best day of their lives at their wedding, et cetera. And you can get more specific, but then that more overarching statement is always there. So my dharma is here to raise consciousness. Now, the way that I can do so is my magic sauce is I make it fun. I make it relatable. I also bring a lot of ancient and sacred wisdom to the table. Now I can do it through my books, my podcast, my coaching, all of these different ways. It's up to me to decide how I want to direct this energy, but that dharma is always there. So I have these nine dharma archetypes that are a really great way for people to seek maybe overarching ones if it's hard for them to really be able to label

their own dharma. So for example, the first archetype is the teacher. You definitely have that teacher archetype. So does Natalie, so does myself. And the teacher's dharma is to share knowledge. So if you are a teacher throughout your life, you're going to be learning different experiences and sharing that knowledge with others. So for example, maybe when you were studying for a test as a kid, the way that you learned that information is to help your friend understand it. And that helped you learn it throughout your life. You go through different experiences, you launched a business, you healed yourself, et cetera, and then you share those experiences. So when you have that teacher archetype, no matter what you do in your life, you're always going to find a way to be imparting knowledge. Now, another Dharma archetype, which could also be paired with the teacher, and by the way, we all have all nine of these archetypes, but in various amounts, but another one is the visionary. So the visionary is here to usher in the new paradigm. They are here to allow people to see things from a higher perspective. So for example, Martin Luther King said, I have a dream. He held a vision for a new future, a new way of being and use his gifts of his

charisma and his communication and his inspiration to share that. So if you're someone who is naturally inspiring people all the time, you are bringing people to see a higher perspective and you can feel your gift is your just ability to communicate with people, you probably have some of the visionary archetype. This is actually my highest one. Another one, which I think a lot of your listeners and you and Natalie definitely have is the entrepreneur. So the entrepreneur's dharma is here to create solutions to the world's problems. So the entrepreneur really looks at where are the gaps in society? Where are the holes? And they could be as massive as environmental change or as simple as I want women to feel better in their dresses.

So I'm going to cut off the bottom of these tights and call it snakes. What you're really doing as an entrepreneur is you're creating solutions to different problems. So I know you and Natalie, from the time you were kids, were just very naturally entrepreneurial. That's a lens you're going to see life through. So with the entrepreneur, they still are here to raise consciousness, but their lens of doing so is through a business. For example, Tom's, Tom's Shoes.

He saw that there was this issue that so many children around the world didn't have shoes to wear. So let's create a business that per pair of shoes can offer those shoes to a kid in need. So the entrepreneur is going to look for a sustainable approach to do something because they know if you don't have a revenue model and a team, et cetera, then the solution is not going to be able to be seen through. I love that. This is so interesting.

So we've got the teacher, the visionary, the entrepreneur. Yes. So some of the other ones are the entertainer. Now the entertainer. Now the entertainer is here to make people feel, here to make people laugh, cry, think. So I love Sacha Baron Cohen. He's such a great example of an entertainer because he's really playing all these different roles. He's Ali G and he's Borat and he's Bruno. But really what he's doing by playing these different roles is he's allowing us to see

a new way of looking at our lives, looking at society. Or Jim Carrey, he's morphing into these different characters, but that's the way that he's raising consciousness. So the entertainer is here to make people feel and they're deeply fascinated by understanding the human psyche. When we're watching a film, what we really are understanding is how does someone react to the situation? How would someone feel in this other person's perspective? So the entertainer goes through life, like they're

living on stage and playing these different roles. And they love to be the center of attention. Like if they're at a party, they often have a group of people around them and they're telling a story. Or if they're in a car and they're bored, they're going to start playing games or want to play karaoke. And that's really what their dharma is. They are here to make us feel. And if we don't have entertainment, the world can be really mundane. Even in ancient Greece, we've had entertainers.

So for myself, my entertainer was not one of my highest archetypes, but then I downloaded TikTok and I got on Reels and it brought out this inner child of mine that loved to do skits and perform and all of these things. So it actually brought up my entertainer archetype and that started to show up more in my dharma. So again, these archetypes aren't set in stone throughout your life. Different archetypes could show up. I tend to find that we have two top archetypes that really stay with us throughout our lives. For me, no matter what, I'm going to be a visionary and be a teacher. Those are always going to be mine. However, I may go through a period that my

entrepreneur really goes up because I'm learning or I'm working on my business a lot, my entertainer because I'm on TikTok or my researcher, activist, et cetera. And then we tend to have one archetype that is our hole in the pocket. And that's the one that we are the least, the one that we're like, oh my God, anything but being an entertainer or being a warrior. So for mine, it's my warrior. I don't want to have confrontation. I just don't like that very warrior-like energy. However, because I wasn't able to step into it, it was holding me back from being my visionary and teacher. So I call it your hole in your pocket because that last Dharma archetype of yours is the one that your greatest growth opportunity is.

And if you could make friends with that archetype, step into that warrior if you need to, or be able to be your entertainer self or whatever. I know for you, your journey of, I don't want to be on social media, this is confronting for me. And now every day you're on stories and people are noticing it, that you made friends with your entertainer and it's supporting you in your entrepreneur. Oh my goodness. I am loving this conversation. And I feel like we've gone over, I want to do all nine. I'm just going to put this out there because I'm like, this is fascinating. And I know so many people are going to be listening like, oh yeah, actually, because it's funny you're saying it.

I have always been, I think I, my mom was actually a teacher, but I had always done a lot of teaching. Like I used to teach dance. I used to be the kid that would help the younger kids at school with their homeworks. And I used to babysit and stuff. So now I'm like, oh yeah, I've really led the teacher, but I'm curious to find out what the other ones are as well. So we've got teacher, visionary, entrepreneur, entertainer. You mentioned warrior briefly, which is more around confrontation, et cetera. So what are the last few? Because I know that

everyone's going to want to know. Yes. So the warrior's dharma is here to protect and lead. So the warrior is very in their bodies and they really want to go towards a shared cause. So for example, if you ever have worked out at like a CrossFit or Orange Theory, that's so warrior. It's like, we're on this team together. We're going to get to the goal of like burning as many calories as possible.

But that's what the warrior really loves. They love the camaraderie. They love the teamwork. They love like we're doing this together. So if you look at the politician AOC, she, Alexandria Octavio Cortez, she's such a warrior that she's willing to stand up and be the voice for the voiceless and fight the good fight. So we need warriors in our society.

We need people to have that strong, fiery energy and like stand up. However, in all of these different Dharma archetypes have their shadow side, but for the warrior, it could be fighting for the sake of fighting or not choosing your battles correctly. So for myself, and I know a lot of females especially have a really tough time with their warrior, they're like, well, it's easier for me to say yes, or it's awkward if I set a boundary or I say something or I feel guilty. And because of that, we continuously get taken advantage of or we don't even speak our truth and the other person doesn't know. So in running my business, that has helped me so much in stepping into my warrior of,

okay, I'm going to put out this fire or have this tough conversation, etc. And has allowed me to create a business that I don't have to do that that often. But if the situation shows up, I'm not afraid of it anymore. So I could get it over with and then continue to really be in my main Dharma archetypes. And I have a question at this point. What's nature of nurture with Dharma? Like, are you like born in, do you have essence of all of these within you and then nurture brings certain ones out? Or is it no, you literally are born into some of these? And we can get as spiritual as you want, but you were really born with your dharma. In spirituality, we believe that we are souls having a human experience. So our souls before choosing our bodies and choosing our parents and choosing our lifetime

also chose our Dharma. It said, I'm going to come into this world and show the world it's possible to be a female running this incredible business with these new, more feminine ethics. Or I'm going to show the world it's possible to heal from this certain trauma or to bridge the gap between these two cultures, et cetera. So from a spiritual level, we would say our souls chose our dharma. However, when we were born into our human bodies, we forgot. You have all of this vast knowledge and then you're born as a baby and you start from the ground up. So you have this vast or very small really remembering of your vast self.

And it feels like this, I know I meant for this thing, but I don't really know what it looks like. I don't really know all the steps to get there. But as you're moving closer to it, it feels like coming back home. And that's what your Dharma is. It's your home-based frequency. It feels like being your truest self. It doesn't require motivation because you're naturally being yourself. And I feel like it's so important, especially as female entrepreneurs, people in corporate, et cetera, because we have taken on this masculine hustle mentality of you got to push yourself and dedicate all your time and energy and go the nine yards. And that can be helpful

for periods of time, but your Dharma is actually extremely easy. It's flowing out of you. You don't ever have to force it. So at first it may feel really awkward to step into these different parts of yourself because of your conditioning, your conditioning. For example, let's say you were born an entertainer. And as a kid, you love to do skits and dance for your family, but then they shamed you for it. And they said, what are you doing? Don't do that in front of guests. So then you have created this trauma response of when I entertain, I am shamed. So you stop doing it however a part of you wants to. So the fact that the desire is there means it's meant for you. Your dreams are dreaming you back. The very reason that you have those dreams is because within them lies an ounce of your purpose. So I don't have dreams about new forms of architecture, but an architect does, or someone who is meant to be an architect does. The things that you're daydreaming about are not the same things I'm daydreaming about. So if it feels scary but expansive, it's right for you.

If it feels scary and contractive, then no, you don't have to do it. And I think sometimes I was just chatting to Natalie and the team the other day around this, around the power and the pause and listen to your intuition, particularly as a woman. And I think sometimes a lot of these answers are within us. And I know at the end, we're going to share how I know that you have like a little quiz and that I want to make sure people know that they can go and take. But I think also that it's sitting with yourself and really like feeling like what feels right. What's in your gut? Like what is your, your heart telling you or your soul

telling you? And I definitely went through a period of my life where I stopped leaning into that intuition. I cut it off. I was just very much logical, very much, okay, well, what is the next step? Not because it feels good, but it's like, what is on? Someone said to me, like, I went to a period of my life where I literally just followed the book. I went to college. I took the grades. I was like getting a job. And then I was like, hit this moment that everyone knows about in my life in 2016. I was like, hang on a minute, like, what am I doing here again? I was on that treadmill that I was just running because I put myself on it. No one told me to get on it. I was just like, you end up on it and form environmental factors or circumstances, but I'm really hearing what you're saying. And I think anyone who's starting to come up against that, hang on a minute, like

it feel, what I'm doing doesn't feel expansive. The situation I'm in doesn't feel expansive. I feel contracted. Like even just talking on this, I know we don't have video on, but I, my shoulders, like when I talk about contraction, the words, your body moves with it. And I started for me noticing about things that when I would talk about, I was excited and lit up and my whole posture changed. And it just took me a while to pause in those moments and go, Oh, hang on. I'm recognizing how I'm changing. I'm recognizing how not just my body, but my voice is changing or my passion or my energy around this subject is changing. Or I could talk about this all day, which is how I ultimately felt about Boss Babe.

I was like, oh, this doesn't feel like work. This feels fun. This feels expansive. So I think it's just like being for me anyway, you can share your opinions. For me, it was like listening into that, however you want to describe it, but that intuition for me, it was like, oh, I actually do know some of these answers within me. I love that so much. I want to share with you an analogy. So you've probably heard the word karma before, right? So most of us think karma is what goes around, comes around, like the Justin Timberlake, what goes around, goes around. It's a great song, but it's not the definition of karma. Sorry, JT, you got it twisted. So we were all born on this highway. And at the end of the highway is our dharma, our fullest expression, the you-ness that you were meant to be.

So you were born on this highway, on cruise control, going towards your dharma. Like naturally as a child, you knew what's up. You knew, I want to draw. I want to play outside. I want to play with my Teletubbies. Whatever it is you wanted to do, you were being your most natural self. However, family, society, all of these different forms of conditioning made us forget. So we were born on this highway going down cruise control. And when we're on that highway, we experience what is called Kriya flow. We are meeting the right people at the right time. We're getting excited about things. We're feeling expansive. And before we know it, we are taken 10 steps ahead, even though we took one step forward

because the universe is propelling us in the direction of our dharma. So for example, when I walked up to Deepak Chopra at a conference and shared with him my book, and long story short, he approached me and asked me to write the forward of my book. I was like, wait, what? How could this happen? But because I was in alignment with my dharma, had that not happened at the same time, I was like, once this book comes out, I'm going to have to apply for a job because I don't know how to make money as an author. The universe was pushing me in the direction of my dharma. And that is called Kriya, effortless flow, boundless action by the universe. And that is how life is meant to be lived. You are meant to feel like you are on the same side of the universe. You're in fact,

sometimes in the passenger seat and the universe is taking the wheel and you are fully trusting. That is how life is meant to be lived. However, most of us, all of us have at some point on this highway gone off an exit. What do these exits look like? They look like, hey, go apply to this job. You'll make more money doing this. Or will everyone from your high school does this? Or your parents will only be proud of you if you do that. Or are you crazy? You will never make it doing what you want to do. You got to get off this exit now before it's too late and you waste your 20s or 30s, et cetera. So we see everyone we know get off these exits. We're like, if I don't get off this

exit now, is it going to be too late? Am I going to waste my life? So let me just get off now because it seems the safer thing to do. It seems like what everyone else is doing. So we get off this exit and the universe responds because the universe wants you to be living your dharma. It's the only way the whole world can come into balance if everyone is living their purpose that they signed up for on this planet. So the universe responds in the only language that we humans can understand, which is pain. So at first the universe is like, tap, tap, tap, something's off. You're not going the direction of your dharma anymore. You've gone off this exit. So you feel anxious, really don't want to go to work or something feels off in your relationship. But most of us, we don't listen. Drink more coffee,

drink more wine, get over it, keep going. Everyone feels that way. So we continue to veer off this exit and the universe is like, okay, girl, you are not listening. Okay, I'll get a little louder. So then the universe is like, knock, knock, knock, panic attacks, depressive episodes, really unfortunate events may be happening. So some of us, if you're attuned, you're like, okay, something's off. I need to shift directions and go back on track. But most of us, we look around and we see everyone's living like this. In fact, that's what hashtag adulting is all about, hating your life. So let me just keep going off this exit. Maybe if I motivate myself enough, then it will get better,

but you're motivating yourself to continue to get off the exit. So then the universe gets louder and louder and louder and louder until it becomes a collision, an on your knees moment, something that is so big that you have no choice but to look at your life and decide, am I going to keep going in this direction or am I going to just let my life move ahead of me? So for some people, that could be a breakdown. For other people, that could be a job loss. For a friend of mine, he said he was partying every night and then he stepped on a hot hair straightener and literally couldn't walk for three months. But that was what the universe needed for him.

For someone else, it could be a divorce. For Eckhart Tolle, it was reaching suicidal ideation. So there are many, many different levels and ways. And in fact, that specific breakdown is a reflection of all of the different times that you didn't listen. So not all of us, we have free will. Some people continue to live in breakdown after breakdown after breakdown. I'm sure some of these people, I know some of these people and they say, the world is

out to get me. Everything is unfair instead of looking within. But for a lot of people, and I know for your listeners, they see that as an opportunity to make a shift. So when you first make that shift, it feels like you're going into unknown territory. You've never gone this direction before. You don't know anyone going there. The path is no longer paved for you. It's like you're trudging through a jungle and you only have a machete in hand and you're just trusting that you're going to find

your way back. You're yearning for this place that you didn't even know exists. So I like to think of this as being on the sand. And now your dharma is out in the open waters. But to get to those open waters, you've got to move through the waves. And those waves now represent all of the times you didn't listen to yourself. All of those obstacles, those limiting beliefs, those roadblocks, those times you had a nudge, but you decided to just not listen. And the more off track you've gotten, the bigger those waves are going to be. So again, most of us, we try maybe one time to go through

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how to duck them, how to go back and get tools, get your surfboard, get your breath work, get your emotional intelligence training, get all of these different tools so you can go through those waves, those obstacles, those limiting beliefs. And then finally, you find yourself in these open waters, the path of least resistance that everyone was talking about. But sometimes to get to the path of least resistance, you first must follow the path that you are personally the most resistant to. Ooh, you should say that again. Let's repeat that. Sometimes to get to the path of least resistance, you first must follow the path that you are personally the most resistant to.

That is so powerful. I'd love for you to digest a little bit more on that as well, because I think that is something that comes up for people a lot. And I don't even think they realize sometimes it's them who are resistant to it versus the universe or versus, I feel like a lot of people don't even realize that they're standing in their own way. So there are two types of resistances that I have found. There's universal resistance and personal resistance. So universal resistance may show up as you're feeling anxious or situations are happening or you're feeling out of alignment. And that's because the universe is showing you this is not the right direction for me. So you personally may think in your conscious mind, oh, this is the right move.

I mean, this is what progress looks like, right? But the universe is pushing you in another direction. That's universal resistance. So the difference is you don't feel contractive, but your conscious mind is telling you it's the right thing to do. Personal resistance is all of your shit's coming up. You feel scared. You feel like you're not good enough. You feel like this isn't what I'm supposed to be doing, et cetera. But when you really tune into it, you feel expansive doing it. So let's say you are dreaming about writing a book. You could see this book on the shelves of Barnes and Nobles and the people whose lives you will impact and stepping onto that stage and sharing your mission. You know that that is the highest expression of who you can become. But every time you sit down on your laptop to write, all of the voices show up. You're a shitty writer. You don't even have

a good story. You don't have time for this. Oh my God, did you just do that email? All of the stuff is coming up. Now that is personal resistance. That is not the universe keeping you from doing it because you know you feel expansive moving in this direction, but it's all of your personal resistance that is showing up. So tune into the end goal. Does it make me feel more contractive or expansive? And is this resistance coming from my limiting beliefs, my ego, my shadows, the unhealed aspects of myself, the way I think that life is supposed to be? Or is it coming from something that feels greater than me that's pushing me in another direction that I'm not sure what looks like right now? And maybe my own fears are trying to keep me on this safe path, even though it's keeping me confined. I think that's really powerful. And just to recognize that within ourselves is also very, very empowering. Sometimes it's like part of the battle is actually recognizing when you're standing in your own way as well, right? Going, oh, that's actually a barrier that I'm putting up or that's what I'm seeing. I want to come back to the archetypes as well, because we went through five of them and then we have four left because I think that's just

really powerful to just start seeing why you're relating to each of these as well. So we finished on warrior. So I think you mentioned activist was one. Yes. So the activist is another very powerful one that we, again, all have an inner activist as we have our other ones, but I really believe 2020 showed us our relationship with our inner activist. So the activist's dharma is here to bring about change, societal, political, economical, on all levels. And the activist is really connected to the 3D, our reality. It's saying, how can I manifest whatever if children outside are starving?

So I think of Marianne Williamson as a really good example of an activist of, even though she's this incredible spiritual and meditation teacher, she's very grounded into how can we take action for the world today? So the activist is always looking at important causes to raise awareness of, and at the same time, looking at ways that they can bring about that sustainable solution. So an activist entrepreneur may do something like Tom's Shoes, whereas an activist visionary may do something like Marianne Williamson writing a book. Activist warrior may become a politician. Growing up, I studied human rights and I worked in DC and very much in my activist path.

And what often can happen to activists is that burnout, that feeling that I care so much. In fact, I care more than everyone else and no one seems to give a shit besides me. And I feel like I'm going up this uphill battle that is exhausting me. So activist burnout is a really real thing and a thing that a lot of activists struggle from. And all of these archetypes can even come from your own childhood wounds, but a lot of activists didn't feel safe or didn't feel heard as a child. So they want to be that person who raises awareness, who speaks, who does that thing. But it can also come from this

idea that I have to sacrifice my own life for others. So that was a huge thing for me of for me to help the world, I got to sacrifice my life. And that's how I can be a good person. But really, the way for you to live your Dharma is to align your highest form of joy with your highest form of service. Because if we're just trying to do something being of service, but we don't find joy, we're eventually going to hit that burnout and we're not going to see the solution through. And if we're just seeking joy and not finding the service, eventually that's going to get old and monotonous and we're going to be yearning for something else. I share in the book that there's no such thing as happiness. We always are saying, I want to be happy. I want to be happy. But happiness is actually the byproduct of living your purpose because happiness is a fleeting emotion. You can't hold on to any one

emotion forever. But when you're in alignment with your purpose and you're fueling it through the essence of joy so it feels good, it feels expansive, you're going to create solutions and see things in a more creative way than you would have if you were just hitting against a wall and hitting against a wall. So when you're looking at your dharma, a great tool that one can do is write down all the things that bring me joy. So maybe it's my dancing, speaking, researching, dressing up, whatever it is for you, and all of the ways that you can be of service, and then see how you can integrate the two. That is a very, very powerful exercise. And I love that what you said, you've got to align joy with service. Makes a lot of sense. Okay. So that's activist number seven. Yes. So the next one is the researcher, which I feel

like you have because you're organized with these archetypes, girl. You're like, we got to stay on track. Don't go into your rant visionary. We got to stay on the architect. I'm like, come to Drazes. No, that's my visionary. So the researcher has this childlike curiosity. They're here to understand deeply. So the researcher is like, why is the sky green? Why is the sky green? Why is the sky blue? Why is the grass green? Why is this person talking so much? Why is this? Why is that? They are always wanting to get to the bottom of things. So if you send something to your researcher friend on Instagram, they're not going to just reshare it on their stories. They're going to do the research. They're going to find all the flaws in the argument. They love to be knee deep in a Google search with 300 different tabs open

and books on the side and a podcast playing. Yeah, I definitely have some research. I'm looking at my tabs now. Yep. Yes. And that's beautiful. We need people doing research. We need people getting to the bottom of things because in our society too, we could be so quick to just share. So for example, when I was writing my second book, Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda, I was just so deep in the research of understanding the science of Ayurveda and the why. And there is this gratifying feeling that a researcher gets when they're finding patterns and things. That's really what the researcher loves to do. So for example, Dr. Joe Dispenza, such a researcher that he's here to show people that meditation is real, that we can connect to

heart coherence and heal ourselves through data and analysis and science-based research. So just such a great example of he is raising consciousness in such a beautiful way, but it's through that lens of the researcher. Deepak Chopra is the same way. It's very much through science. And I find there's two types of researchers. There's past and future. Past researchers really like to look at history and why the world is the way it is based on the past. And future researchers love to look at innovation technology, like Elon Musk, for example, is such a researcher. So if you are a researcher, you're here to understand deeply. And the shadow side of the researcher is

sometimes you can feel like you're never ready to take action. I need more research. I'm not ready because the more you know, the more you know that you don't know because you've opened up that Pandora's box. So for that researcher to know that sometimes it's best to just share and start taking action on the research you have. And you can always go dive deeper into it. But I bet you there's like 10 researchers out there that have the cure to world hunger, but like feel like they're not ready yet. So for the researcher to just share that wisdom and know that they're ready. That's so true. And a big thing that I had to overcome in my journey was perfectionism, which I'm really now relating to that research. I was like,

oh, you've never done enough. And I had to literally ingrain myself like 80% is done, like 80% is done and I have to ship it. Like that was my rule in getting my businesses off the ground and taking action because otherwise I would try and aim for perfect and then perfect didn't exist. Because if you do have any of that, or most of you're saying lots of us have lots of elements of this, that researcher in you, it's very's very very easy like you say never to get things out and I see this a lot with entrepreneurs and women in the society as well like oh my goodness I've not done all these things I'm like you don't have to have done all these things or even it's like oh I need to get over to this point z from a to z and I'm like okay yeah

but there's b there's c there's d just keep going one step in front of the other don't worry about having the whole alphabet mapped out in front of you. Just start with the next couple of letters. So yeah, I can really, I think when you start acknowledging these parts of your drama as well, like it's just, it's very enlightening. I'm like, oh, okay, I haven't seen this. Okay, so as I'm going to keep this going, number eight. So the artist is the next one.

The artist is here mentioned to bring beauty. So the artist, you can always tell who they are by how they're showing up, their Instagram feed, their outfits, their home. It has this essence to them. They're always expressing and communicating, especially with different mediums. So the artist is the most energetically sensitive out of all of the different Dharma archetypes. The reason being because they're able to go to a thrift store and find these fabulous outfits or go through a breakup and create poetry out of it. So they're really taking in information from all of these different senses. And that can be very, very overwhelming. So often artists need a lot of alone time, loud sounds and places that have a

lot of stimulation are too much for them. They really need a lot of time to integrate. And then the way that they move through experiences is to create beauty from it. So going through a tough time in life and creating their art. So for example, Frida Kahlo, we could all like from her outfit to her home, to her, whatever we can tell, it's Frida. It has her essence on it. And we also know that she had a very emotional life with a lot of ups and downs. And that's because sometimes the artist can even become addicted to feeling those types of ways because it's from which they create art from. So it's important for the artist to know you don't have to feel pain to create your best art. You can create your best art just from feeling peaceful and joyful and calm and fine. There's also beauty to that too. Sometimes as an artist, you can definitely become addicted to that pain because it's so all-encompassing. And it's like, I mean, tune into the energy of heartbreak. We can all tap into that. Whereas tune into the energy of universal love. We're like, what is that? How do we get there? So that's why a lot of mainstream art, if you notice, most songs are

about breakups and heartache and suffering and you left me and I lost you and this and that, because it's such a universal emotion. However, an artist in its truest form can take that art and actually raise people's vibration by doing that, which so many artists are doing in their own ways. So if you are an artist, know that you are here to bring your unique style to everything that you do things. Maybe it's through a physical product or through your role at a company or even just through the way that you show up on social media. And also know that it's okay to not be perfect. I think sometimes the artist can have that perfectionism too of, I can't put this out, et cetera. But with the artist, I think it's important when we're running a business too,

that sometimes art can triumph business. And sometimes it's more of the practical side. When I was creating my Oracle card deck, it was, I'm like, I want gold foil on it. And all of these things and the publishers, you're really not going to make money doing this. I don't really care because for me, it's about the art. That is my expression of my media. I'm sure you guys in Boss Babe have made decisions that you're like, we're going to do the extra confetti and this and that. We don't really care because it's about the art and the experience. But if you only do that,

that's why we have this conception of the starving artist of always putting the art first and not really looking at the practicality. So if you are an artist, make sure you have that balance of both. Wise words, wise advice there. And then the final one. So the last and certainly not least Dharma archetype is the nurturer. So the nurturer's Dharma is here to care and connect. They are here to really hold space for people to listen. So I love to think of Oprah as such a great example of this. Why do we

love Oprah so much? It's not because she goes on stage and gives a riveting talk. She's not Tony Robbins. He's a warrior. But Oprah has that nurture to her. She just sits on her chair and she's like, honey, how are you really feeling? And she's not afraid of the pause. She leans back, she invites in. And that's really what the nurturer does. They have this ability to hold space and listen and to let people dive deeper into their truth merely with their presence. So a nurturer makes an excellent coach, therapist, nurse, social worker, HR, customer service, anything that they're really connecting with people, that is them in their fullest expressions. And we need that. We need nurturers in the world to make the world sweet like honey. And I think all of us can feel how beautiful it is to be held energetically

by a nurturer. Now, what nurturers often struggle with are boundaries because they know how much their nurturing helps others. They're like, well, I can't not help this person with their problem or turn my back on this person, even though they're calling me for the eighth time about the same situation because we can see how much people need us. So it can be really hard to set boundaries and to also give yourself the same love that you give to others. So for nurturers, it's to know that you can actually help in your best capacity when there are boundaries. I'm sure you guys talk to this all the time, but like when you're coaching, if you're just sure, call me anytime, any problem, like I'm here, just text me. That person is not going to look within themselves to create solutions. Like we

end up holding their hand and enabling them. Whereas if they know, okay, you have this amount of time and space, this is the way that we're going to work together. And you give them back their power. You're actually serving them in a higher way. So for that nurturer to know how powerful and how healing their energy is, and you're not personally responsible for someone else's success. Yeah, so, so true. These have been absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for walking us through all of these. And I want to just like, for a lot of people, it might be the first time that they've heard about Dharma. It might be they've heard about it in lots of different areas. But I want you to share about your book

because you have a book out on this, which as I'm sure everyone can tell, you are so knowledgeable. And I want to make sure that everyone can connect with this book because it really is a beautiful piece. Yes. So the book is called Discover Your Dharma.

It's out everywhere. And in the book, there's actually a really in-depth analysis that you can do that helps you rank each of these archetypes in order. So for example, Danielle, I feel like yours are entrepreneur, teacher, researcher, visionary. I'd say those are your top ones. So you could take it and maybe they would switch a little bit.

So you would be able to see what are all of the different archetypes in order and learn more about them. And so much more than the archetypes, I have this process, a five-step process to help anyone really focus their energy on what their Dharma is guiding them to right now. So it's called the Dharma Blueprint Process, and it's a combination of different factors, such as the mediums that you're best at, your superpowers, obstacles you've overcome, your archetype, et cetera. So it really helps you out of all of the different ways that your Dharma could show up. Because I know for myself on my own journey, I was so confused. I'm a very multi-passionate person,

and I wasn't sure if I was going to take the wrong direction and end up in the wrong place. So it really helps you have a lot of focus. I feel like the biggest thing is we diffuse our energy in so many different directions and we're trying to get all these projects off the ground at the same time and then end up going nowhere and then lose that momentum and not live our dharmas. So it allows you to really figure out who you are, first of all, what your dharma is, and then how you can take action on it. So that book is called Discover Your Dharma. If you go on my website, I am sahararose.com

slash dharma. You can find all the links there. And then you can also submit your receipt number. And I have some bonuses, a Discover Your Dharma meditation, an embodiment practice to dance your dharma with me and a tapping practice as well. Oh my goodness. I love this. We'll put their links under this podcast as well so that they can find that because this has been absolutely phenomenal. Thank you so much, Sahara. I just appreciate appreciate you coming in just sharing such a wealth of knowledge and yeah i know so many people are going to learn so much and be wanting to read the book and all its wisdom within it so thank you so so much oh thank you so much for having me it's a pleasure to be here. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, download a few more, and please leave us a review. I really want to hear what you enjoyed, what your main takeaways were, and I also

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