the bossbabe podcast - 464: Erin Claire Jones on Launching a Book Postpartum + Creating Life Operating Systems with Human Design

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

Erin Claire Jones is one of the world’s leading experts in Human Design and she’s back on the podcast for a conversation that goes way beyond the chart. Natalie and Erin dive deep into what it really looks like to birth a book and a baby at the same time, navigating business launches with limited time, and learning how to work with (not against) your natural energy. Whether you’re a Generator trying to find balance, a Manifesting Generator embracing your multi-passionate nature, or just curious about how Human Design can support your parenting, this episode is packed with powerful insights. Erin also breaks down how each type - Generator, MG, Projector, Manifestor + Reflector - can approach launches, decisions, and daily life in a more aligned way. If you’re ready to confidently make decisions that align with your goals, in both business and life, this episode is a must-listen. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 The story behind Erin’s new book (and how it came to life postpartum) 02:00 What launching a book with a baby + toddler actually looks like 04:30 When to go hard, and when to scale back in a launch season 06:10 How Erin’s Human Design as a Projector impacts her work style 10:15 A breakdown of the 5 Human Design types and how each launches differently 13:00 Why parenting and business both require constant recalibration 14:00 A powerful tip for Generators: community = opportunity 16:20 What it means to be “invited” as a Projector (and how to still pitch) 19:00 How Natalie + Erin parent through the lens of Human Design 23:00 How to use the book as a real-time guide for decisions and relationships 25:00 What’s next for Erin post-launch (and what rest really looks like) RESOURCES + LINKS Erin’s Book, How Do You Choose: A Human Design Guide To What’s Best For You At Work, In Love, And In Life, Is Available Now! Get It Here. Get Your Personalized Human Design Blueprint Here. (Use Code BOSSBABE For A Discount) Become Human Design Coaching Certified With Erin Here. (Use Code BOSSBABE For A Discount) Sign Up For Our Free Weekly Newsletter & Get Insights From Natalie Every Single Week On All Things Strategy, Motherhood, Business Growth + More.  Drop Us A Review On The Podcast + Send Us A Screenshot & We’ll Send You Natalie’s 7-Figure Operating System Completely FREE (value $1,997).

Welcome to the Boss Play podcast. So this episode is with Erin Claire Jones. She is a leading expert in human design. I was actually introduced to her when she joined us CEO Mama Mastermind and through getting to know her and learning about the work that she does it's honestly brought so much awareness to me about my own human design and how I can navigate my way through the world, but also to my relationship and also to my team dynamics. We actually asked Erin if she'd come in and lead a session with the BossWhip team, which was incredible because she helped everyone to identify their human design and how we all work together best and how we can all fulfil our own potential using human design. It was phenomenal. So she came back on the podcast

for the second time, this time to talk all about her brand new book which is How Do You Choose? A Human Design Guide for What's Best for You at Work, in Love and in Life. I love it, it's such a good practical book and we also just dive into the practicalities of actually launching a book while you're postpartum and you have a baby and a toddler and all the things that I'm going to find out first hand next year. So I selfishly also wanted to ask her a lot of those real questions. So with that, I hope you enjoy this episode. Erin, welcome back.

Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here. Give me a quick life update since the last time you were here. Was it a year and a half ago? Probably if not more, but yeah, probably a year and a half ago. Well, let's see. I had another baby who is now seven months old, another girl, and I wrote a book and now the book is out in the world. So it's been a lot of birthing and a lot of behind the scenes figuring things out, you know, and this is the year where it's like, oh, the baby's out, the scenes figuring things out, you know, and

this is the year where it's like, oh, the baby's out, the book is coming out, but it's been a time. I feel like we're on such similar timelines because I think our second baby will be around seven months when I'm fully in the book launch cycle because I pushed everything back. So just tell me everything. Wait, will you remind me when is the due date of the baby? Well, in the fall, and then the book comes out in May. So I'll probably be six, seven months, I think, when the book comes out.

Wow, yeah, so Brooklyn was born, sorry, on September 24th. Oh, so yeah, we're really similar time and date. We're really similar, yeah. So is she a Virgo or Libra? She is a Libra, and a manifesto in human design. Right, so if she was early, she would she a Virgo or a Libra? She is a Libra and a manifesto in human design. Right on the crossbow, right? So she's early, she would be a Virgo? Yes. Oh, yeah, I think our baby's going to be a Libra too.

Oh my gosh, yeah. I mean, I will be honest that like, I'm obsessed, you know, I think that like, she is, we have such a, I feel like a little bit maybe similar to your oldest. Our oldest is just like a wild woman, you know, and like just like, you know, was cackling at two months old, like life is so hilarious to her and like our seven month old is just like so peaceful and like innocent in a way that our toddler is very much not, you know? So it's been, but what I would say in terms of being, it's a lot, you know, doing a book and a baby at once. My youngest has been so integrated in my book process. You know, I turned in my book two weeks before she was born and they sent me back the edits two weeks after she was born. So basically all the edits, I know I wouldn't do that part again, but all the edits were

done with her sleeping on me. And then I remember a final edit, she was only two months old. I'm just reading the book aloud to her as we were working through it together. So I don't know about you. I feel like in my life, things tend to be all happened at once. And so it's hard for me to be like, would I rather done each independently? Like, I don't know. Like it's been like a really full season, but I also think that it's been an amazing one. And I'm really excited to kind of be on the other side

and have it be full in different ways that are a little bit less work and book focused. I love that. Has it been part of your thought process? Cause it's definitely part of mine just deciding, okay, how full on am I gonna go with this launch? What am I gonna commit to? What am I not gonna commit to?

Cause I feel like if I was writing and publishing a book before I had kids, I mean, I would be like 10 out of 10 effort going all the way with launching. Whereas the way I'm gonna be thinking about it this time is how can I maximize what I get out of the minimal time that I have? Yeah, I think that's wise. I think I have kind of the minimal time that I have. Yeah, I think that's wise. I think I have kind of gone a little bit too hard.

You know, I think that I have friends that are like, are you okay? Like, are we like, we just like need to relax together. So I would say that, you know, there are so many ways to do a book launch. This is my first book and I just wanted to kind of do as it will be for you. I wanted to kind of do whatever I could to make it,

just as get it in front of as many people as possible and then kind of let it do its own thing. You know, I've booked 77 podcasts. Like I like have like it's just I know. I know, Natalie. I know. Mainly virtual. Have you been traveling? I've been traveling. Well, here's the thing. I live outside of New York City. So I've been able to travel and for the day for a lot of New York City, I was just in LA last week to record eight while I was there. So it's just been like, it's been a wild time. So like, I don't know that I would recommend going quite as hard as I've gotten in that way. Like I think you'll be a little bit better around like, what are the ones that are going to have the most impact? And I've been discerning, but still it's been a lot. But also like,

I will just say, and I don't know how you navigate this, like I haven't really wanted it to take away from time with my girls, you know? And so like for me, it's like my time with them is so sacred. So it looks like, you know, working during nap time or working after they go to bed. And so like, I would say other things in my life have suffered because I've gone so hard, but it doesn't feel like it's been about them. But I think that like, this is actually one of the perpetual lessons in my human design is like not going so hard, you know, and really allowing myself to slow down. So I think that one thing I really had to say no to or chose to say no to is kind of doing a book tour right now because it just like, it already feels like so much.

And I'm like, I just don't think I can keep going. And so I've also had to really be like, is this really gonna move a needle in ways that feel meaningful? And even like this LA trip, I had, I don't know, 11 podcasts booked and it was gonna be an eight day trip. And like, I was gonna bring my youngest and my mom. And it was like this whole thing.

And then at a certain point I was like, it's just too long to be gone. And so I ended up canceling podcasts I was really excited to be on and be like, it's going to be a four day trip. I'm going to go without my youngest because it's going to be so chaotic going to four podcasts a day. And it was really better that way, but it sucked. I was like, I can't do all the things, but I think there's like, I really had to compromise in a lot of ways. And I think that this experience of having things be so full has really taught me that lesson. Because I am so the kind of person that's like, I can do it all. And then things erupt and it doesn't go well. What is your human design? I'm a projector, which is basically around the fact

that I'm not meant to do all the doing and I can be a little bit overzealous. And I really need to build in moments of pause and space and rest. And so I think that this has been such a lesson of like, okay, I can't take rest in the way that I used to, but can I take five minutes here? Can I take an hour here? Can I like have a moment here? And it's also different obviously with two children. Yeah. And I appreciate you saying too, some things have taken a backseat in your life. And I think that's just the realness of it because yeah, most of us, whenever you go all in on one project, we don't really want time with our kids to suffer,

which means something has to give. And to think that you can be 10 out of 10 in all areas all the time is so unrealistic. But I think the minute you admit that and you acknowledge the areas of your life that probably aren't going to get as much attention in that season, the guilt of that seems to go away because you're like, you know what I mean? Intentionally letting those areas of my life have less attention. Totally. And also like to know at the same time that it's a season, that I'm like, this is a season. And also like, I'm so excited for the book to be out. I'm also like, so looking forward to be on the other side of it. Cause I'm just like, there are other things

I want to do with my life, you know? And like, I don't know what the journey has been like for you. But I had this belief early on that I could easily like run a business and write my book. And honestly, like my last 18 months, I have spent 85% of my energy on the book, you know. And so like, that's a big thing. Like the business has the business has done fine. And like, thank God for my partner and team. But like, I also like miss being able to to nurture the business in ways that I have not really been able to with the book. What does that look like for you? Well, yeah, I mean, I'm thinking through it all.

Luckily, I've paced my book out quite a lot and it was meant to be coming out the exact same month that my baby's due. So pushing it back, I know, has given me a lot of time. But I say all of that, I don't know what the, like I've got my first manuscript in the edits process. I already know it's going to be a lot and it's going to require a lot. So I don't really know. But one thing I do know is I don't really want it to impact my business financially in a significant way. I know it's going to like, you don't make a lot of money from your actual book. You get the revenue from your book seal. So I'm really trying to think about how do I integrate

my book into my business model? Can I? And of course, some things are going to drop. That's going to be how it works. But I'm trying to think through it. And I don't know that I haven't answered yet. Well, I think it's also I feel like if anyone's going to figure out it will be you. And like, I will just say that for a lot of authors, you know, it's like their book is kind of their own thing. And it's disconnected from our business. a lot of authors, their book is kind of their own thing and it's disconnected from their business. For us, the book is the best top of funnel thing ever

because it's very much like, if you want to use human design in your life, whether or not you're into it at all, this is the most practical way to do it. And so I don't know all the details of your book, but it feels like it could be integrated in so beautifully. And it is such an amazing marketing tool, but for us, the book is very much like part of the ecosystem.

It's not a thing that exists on its own. So it's also been really important to kind of have the people that we're working with really understand that. I really, really love that. But yeah, I think it's just such a real conversation to have of like, yeah, when you are a mother, you really don't go as hard as you used to. Like there was 11 interviews and an eight day trip, I'm sure five years ago, you're like, I'm going to let's make it 10.

Let's make it fun. Like you just don't think about it. Whereas I do think it forces you to just get so much smarter with your time. You're like, let me look at how much leverage I can have with my time and let me just get smarter about it. So it's not even necessarily downside. It's just, we're going to do this very differently in the past. I'm like, well, how do I even spend my time?

I would just give my time so freely to anyone and everything. I know, I know. I do love that about motherhood. It just feels like I'm so much more thoughtful about my time because also it's like time doing other things is like time away from my girls. So it's like it better be freaking worth it, you know? And so like I think it's allowed me to be just a lot more intentional. But yeah, it is hard those moments. And I just think I appreciate the opportunity motherhood

has afforded in terms of being like, you've got to say no, you know, and it doesn't mean you won't go back and do it in the future, but not now. Yeah. You know? So speaking of human design and launches, I think a book launch is just the perfect example of any kind of big business launch, a big project that you're working on. You mentioned you're a projector. I know I'm a generator. Will you give me a rundown of the human design types and how they might consider approaching a book launch or a big project differently based on their design? Yeah, I love that.

So if you guys don't yet know your human design, you can look it up at humandesignblueprint.com. It's gonna be a wire looking chart, so don't worry about that, but look at what's listed under type. So let's talk about you as a generator. So generators are so boundless in their energy when they feel genuinely excited about what they're doing.

And they're also people that really enjoy the process. You know, they're people that can like really master things. I'm going to have this like very steady step by step energy. There's like a depth to them. You know, I opened the book with the story of LeBron James, who's like such an amazing example of a generator, like look at the mastery he's achieved and also kind of the passion that's really going to fuel that. And so, you know, I would say one big lesson for generators, both as mothers and in book

launches is the more lit up you are, the more energy you have and the more magnetic you are. And so like, I would consider like, what are the aspects of the book launch that feel the most exciting to you? Like is it being on podcasts? Is it like thinking of a really cool strategy where the book can really benefit your business? Like whatever the thing is, so you can like focus most of your energy on that. And maybe other things just like take a back seat, maybe you hire a PR firm, maybe you hire things for the other roles. But like again, I would just

like trust that like the more fulfilled you are on a day-to-day basis, the more magic is going to come your way. I know that sounds like a little bit fluffy, but it's so true. You know? You know that resonates because I literally cannot get the energy together for something I'm not excited about. Like I just can't fake it. I'm like 100% energy for something I'm excited about or 0% energy for something I don't want to do. Yeah.

And so like I would just, you know, I think with book launches, it's really easy to be like, okay, this is the way to do it. This is like, but like nobody, everyone's figuring it out and like there's no one way. And so like I would be like, what is the way that feels really true to you? I actually have a quick mothering question. And then I'll move on to the other ones for you as a generator. You know, I work with a lot of generator parents who feel really guilty for working or creating kind of time for passions on their side on the side. And yet such a big lesson for generators is the more you know, you being lit up by what you're

doing is not a selfish choice. It's like the most generous thing you can do because it lifts everyone around you, your husband, your daughter, your next daughter. And so how have you navigated that? Has there been guilt around kind of stepping away to create space for things you enjoy? Have you noticed how impactful that is in a positive way? I'll say I've noticed that it's impactful, but what I've really struggled with and continue to struggle with,

and I know this will probably extend into when I have the next baby is I haven't figured out exactly what quote unquote balance feels right to me. Like we've talked about it before like I'm still figuring out how much child care do I want? How much do I want to work? Like I feel like I don't fully know and I'm weaving I feel like for the last three years I've just been trying different things on to see what feels good. When I'm weaving, I feel like for the last three years, I've just been trying different things on to see what feels good. When I'm in seasons where I feel like I've got that balance right, I feel really energized. But when it goes off just slightly, I feel depleted.

So it's been a learning journey. It's not been black and white for me. And I'd also say one thing that I've learned in the journey is that like it's always changing. Like there are just some seasons where it's like, I need more support and some seasons I want like no support. So it's kind of a thing that you like I have found that like I have to keep asking myself because like I've had moments where I'm like I need people to leave my house. Like I just like I can't have them here and the moments where it's like I

really need help. So it's interesting how much it keeps evolving. Yeah, yeah and probably I'm assuming after your book launch season you're probably going to want something completely different to what you've needed the last three three months. It's just going to change. Exactly. I have one more little nugget to share with you on your design, and then we'll talk about the other types. You have something called a four in your profile. Don't worry about this if you're like, what are you talking about, Erin? But I think what it means is that so many of your opportunities are meant to come through your community and the people that you know. You're somebody who's really meant to kind of work with people that you

really enjoy, that you want to be friends with. And I've seen that with your team, like you guys like, like our little family, you know, like you're not meant to kind of work with people that feel like strangers or like we're just working together. Like there's just like this community element. So like, I would think about that in the book Lanz too, is like, it's not about like connecting with all these strangers, but like, how can you really just like tap into your people and like let them create all the opportunities for you? Oh, that's really good.

Yeah, I think you're going to do it already. But it's just like a really good reminder because I think going into something like that, you I mean, for me, I have I'm a very introverted person like, oh my God, do I need to go network with all these people? Like, I don't want to do that. No, it's like just having your existing people. I will say one really hard thing for me in this book launch is that like, I've had to ask for so much help. Oh, that's like just having your existing people. I will say one really hard thing for me in this book, Lawrence, is that I've had to ask for so much help. Oh, that's hard. It's really hard asking you, just asking people that I know.

And I think what I've been amazed by in the most positive way is people want to help. You know what I mean? They're just like, I want to help you. How can I? I'm just like, god, it makes me want to help people so much because I'm like, this is amazing. So OK, the other types, manifesting generators.

These people are also very boundless in their energy when they're excited, but very multi-passionate, multi-dimensional, kind of move fast. And so I would say when it comes to the book launch, I have a dear friend, Amber Bray, who's about to launch her book, who's a manifesting generator. And for her, it's a similar thing to you, what are the parts of the process that feel the most exciting? But also allowing herself to keep pivoting and changing direction and evolving. It's not choosing one strategy and sticking to it, but kind of allowing constant evolution.

I would say for projectors, a big part of our strategy for creating opportunities is just one, being invited into things, but also making ourselves visible. I would say that's been my biggest journey is how can I really let myself be seen and put myself out there as much as possible? I think one thing I have found is projectors are here to be invited in, but also I have found that I'm weirdly good at pitching people. So I've really had to learn how to pitch people as a projector. I really considered hiring a PR firm, but every firm I talked to was like, you're booking yourself on so many podcasts, I don't think you should hire me. But it's been so exhausting, and yet I have really learned how to just be like, how can I just like, let people know I exist and like see whether it

resonates with them. That's tricky though, to know that part of your design is to be invited in because that's such a unknown, isn't it? Like, am I going to be invited? Like that's really challenging to navigate. It is challenging to navigate. And I think that like, for me, it's an energetic thing. You know what I mean? In terms of being like, I know when I'm sitting with somebody, I'm like, oh, they clearly get it, versus this person just doesn't get it. And so I think for me, it's like, I'm like, how can I let people know that I exist

and then see if they get it? And when it does happen that way, it's just amazing. It's like magic. It's just like everything's happening at the perfect time. But when I'm trying to be seen by people that are not ready to see me, it does not work. And so that's been a big lesson as a projector, is there are some people that I really wanted to be seen by in this are not ready to see me, it does not work. And so that's been a big lesson as a projector is like, there are some people that I really wanted

to be seen by in this moment that just like don't see me. And then there's some people that like have come out of the woodwork that I'm like, Oh my God, like this is real, this can happen. And so it's just like allowing that to unfold more organically. That makes sense. Manifesters are just like initiators, like they're just here to follow like the sparks, the urges they feel within them. So I would say like when it comes to a book launch, like one of, they're just like urges that arise within you, like go pitch that person, make that thing happen. But also manifestors like do things unlike anybody else.

So that's going to be true of every part of your life, including the book launch. So like you're just going to be somebody who's probably like, this is my strategy. Nobody else is doing it that way. I don't care. That's my strategy. So like I would also say manifestors do well when they feel free. And so building a strategy that allows your freedom to stay put and doesn't feel like you've got to feel more boxed in or told what to do.

That makes total sense. And then we've got the last type, which is a reflector. And honestly for reflectors, these people are so fluid, they're so wise, and their opportunities emerge best when they're in the right spaces. So actually the thing I would consider in this moment of launching a book is like, what are the spaces that I feel the most drawn to? Like maybe it's like the CEO of a membership, maybe it's like a physical cafe, maybe it's like a city, like spending time in the right spaces just like creates magic. And so like making it your job to kind of be in energy, love being around and just seeing what emerges from

there. Oh, that's so good. For people that are wanting to know their human design, that don't know the exact time they were born, can you still find out? I would say like use the closest approximate you know, but if you don't, if you're like an entire day is the possibility, I would just look up a few different times within that range, like 7am and 9am and 12am and like just see how much it changes. Like sometimes a lot changes and sometimes it stays pretty consistent for a while. So like it's likely that the type will stay consistent for a bit.

That makes sense. Yeah. And then with human design, I'm curious, have you brought that into parenting? Like I mean, I know the answer to this, but like looking up your kids' charts and thinking about how you navigate things with them differently? I have, wait, do we, what is your daughter's design? Do you remember? It's funny because I'm a generator, my husband's a manifesto, and she's a manifesting generator.

Oh my gosh, this is hilarious because I'm a projector, my husband's a generator, my toddler is a manifesting generator, and my seven-month-old is a manifesto. We have four of the five types represented. You have three of the five, which makes me feel like your fourth is also going to be another type. Maybe a little projector. It has entirely shaped the way that I parent. And, you know, honestly, I'll just say like one of my biggest dreams for

my book is that people don't only read the chapters about themselves, but they read the chapters about their partners and their kids and their colleagues because it just brings us so much compassion. I would say like just to make it really practical, it's shaped the way I parent as a projector because I'm somebody who's just not meant to be on all the time. Like I need a lot of space and rest. So, you know, giving myself that permission wherever I can find it and knowing it makes me so much better. I would say with my daughters, like it's not a thing where I'm just like, oh, I'm going to do this for you because you're manifesting generator.

I would say I'm more like in a moment of observation of just kind of like seeing how it's unfolding naturally and seeing how I can support them. I'll talk about my manifesting generator daughter first. And I'm really curious about yours. Like, I mean, she's got so much energy. It is just like, and especially now at two and a half, she just runs circles around me. And she's so funny and she's so charismatic and she's just hilarious. And so there's such a bigness to her when she really feels free to express that I just love. And she's somebody who's very gut driven. And so it's been really fun to kind of like, one of the strategies for supporting generators and manifesting

generators is to give them options, which I think is probably helpful for all kids. But like, you want to do this or this? Is this option better or this one? So it's been really fun to kind of just see what her body responds to because she's just like, she really does respond in such a beautiful way. But one of the stories that I tell in my book is of a father who came to me and his daughter was a manifesting generator and she was in high school. And he was like, Erin, I'm really struggling with my daughter. He was a generator and he was like, she's doing everything. She's playing softball, she's playing volleyball, she's playing lacrosse, she's running across country. Like, why can't she just choose a thing and stick to it? And I was like, well, she's not meant to, like, she's meant to try all the things on and let them go. So like what he

perceived as flakiness was her need for variety. And so like, I think I'm just kind of like witnessing my girls, you know, multi-dimensional nature and figuring out ways that I can continue to support that. I'm curious before I talk about my youngest, like what have you noticed that in your Elvis? Oh yeah, she has so much energy. I can't even. It's crazy. It just, it does, the energy doesn't end. I would say I still struggle with giving her options because she knows her own mind and there's no convincing her otherwise. Even if I give her two options, black or white,

and she wants pink, it's pink all the way. And then yeah, really interesting around just like, she'll play with something and 15 minutes later, she's done and onto the next and onto the next and onto the next and just, it's a whirlwind. It's a total whirlwind, you know? And like, and I think a lot of manifesting generators have been made to feel like they're too much. Like they should like, you know, like dampen it and like dim their light and just be like a little bit less big. But like manifesting dinners are like so big and

so buzzy and so enthusiastic and like being on a lit up manifesting generator is like the best, you know? So I think it's more like as a mother, I think what's so cool about human design is it basically gives us tools to kind of support our kids and being who they are from day one. Because they express their design so purely and often they kind of get conditioned out of it because I think they should be something else. And it's just a reminder of like that's their inner workings, that's their magic. My other one, the manifestor, I'm curious if you observe any of this in your husband, but manifestors need freedom, you know? Like they're not really here to be told what to do or manager guided in any way. And something I found that was so interesting is at two months

old, my youngest started flipping over and started sleeping on her belly and broke out of her swaddle, which it's just a little bit early for that. And the internet's like, don't let them sleep on the belly. And I was trying to flip her over. And I was calling my pediatrician, I was like, what do I do if she's flipping over? And she's like, you let her flip over, you let her sleep on the belly, you take the freaking swaddle off. And like, it was just a really powerful reminder early on that I was like, this girl knows exactly what she wants to do. And like, as much as I wanna try to stop her,

like, it's not gonna work. And she's so willful. And like, what I observe in her, she's incredibly specific. She just like, knows exactly what she wants, you know? And like, and she's so peaceful too. So it's just been fun because like, my kids are so different and like their designs are also so different. I love that so much. So jumping into the book, one thing I really love about how you have done this is that you can go and find the

section that's meant for you and then you can go read about your partners. You can read about your kids. Give me a little TLDR of what someone can use this book to navigate. If they know that type, what can they jump in and learn how to navigate? Yeah, great question. I would say why I read the book that I did is like, this is not a textbook on human design. This is not like a book where you're like, I want to learn human design. The book is focused on how you can practically apply this system in your life and it can be a real time decision making guide. So that looks like you don't know what to do next in your career. So you go kind of read about your type as it relates to career. Like you're

struggling in a friendship. So you go read around like kind of projectors and relationships. I had a friend call me recently and she's like, Erin, I like, don't know whether I should move to this like Brownstone in Fort Greene in Brooklyn. And I was like, she had an advanced copy of the book. I was like, turn to this chapter on your authority. And like five minutes later, she's like, I know exactly what to do. And so it's meant to be this resource that you keep going back to it any crossroads in your life, big or small, I know exactly what to do. And so it's meant to be this resource that you keep going back to at any crossroads in your life, big or small. It's something I've been actually amazed by

is like, I'm using it. I struggle with a thing and I read a chapter, I'm like, oh, I see why this is not working. And so it's very much meant to be a practical exploration of how your human design can be used, you move kind of out of stuckness into flow in the realm of work in relationships and parenting. I love that.

And it's different too, like you can keep it on your desk and you can, like you say, you can pick it up when you feel like you need it. It's not that you need to sit and read it cover to cover. It's so funny that you'd mentioned manifestors need freedom. I'm like, Oh my God, that's my husband. But I'll sometimes go to sections because I obviously got an advanced copy. I'll sometimes go to sections of him. I'm like, help me understand my husband right now. And just reading that, it gives me a different level of acceptance. Oh, my God. It makes me so happy to hear. There's a level of compassion when you're just like, they're not wrong for being them. They're not wrong for being different. They're

just different. I would say manifestors especially, they're like eight to nine percent of the population. They're just like, they kind of do things their own way. So I really think human design is so cool in that way. I feel like people so often experience friction with colleagues, with kids, with parents, with partners, simply because they don't understand each other. And I think human design is such a cool tool to be like, oh, you're just different. One of the stories I tell in the book is at the end, and it's about a couple that's trying to decide whether or not to move to New York City.

And a woman, she, her, basically her authority was like yours. She was meant to make decisions in the moment based on her gut feeling. So when she came to me, she was like, Erin, I know exactly that we're meant to move to the New York City. Like, I'm so annoyed by my husband. And I was like, what's going on?

She's like, he's waffling. Every day he feels something different. And when I looked at his authority, I was like, he's meant to give himself a full month before he chooses. So what she perceived as waffling was just his way of reaching clarity. And like she was kind of interpreting his in the moment reflections as his truth, when it was just like part of the process. And so decision making had felt so hard and it became so much

better when they're like, oh, we just choose differently. Ladies, to yourself a favor, grab the manual. Just get to know them. I know. Well, listen, I know we have so many women listening who are super interested in the book and also really love to support other women in business. So can you let them know where they can grab your book? And then also, can you talk a little bit about the blueprint? Because I feel like that actually will pair really well with the book for someone that wants to go a little bit deeper. Yeah.

So the book is called, How Do You Choose a Human Design Guide to What's Best for You at Work in Love and in Life? It's available anywhere books are sold. And then we also have an offering called the Blueprint Guide, which is basically a hyper-personalized guide all about your unique design. It's totally custom to you. There are 400,000 possible variations of that.

That can be found at humandesignblueprint.com and the discount code for that is BOSBED. Amazing. I think it's so genius because choosing and knowing sometimes what the right thing for us is, is one of the hardest things. So I just think you have just nailed it with this. I cannot wait to see fully how this launch unfolds for you, but you're just such an inspiration to me.

The way that you're navigating all of this. I'm so excited for you. As we wrap up, I want to know what's REST going to look like for you in this next season when the book is out, it's launched. What are you excited for? Oh my God. Honestly, what I'm excited for, which I think you'll appreciate, is I'm excited to read a lot more fiction. I'm just too tired when I go to bed at this moment. You know what I mean? I just go and I'm like, oh, I'm so excited and I get two pages in and I'm asleep. And so I'm just really excited to do that. I'm also excited to really not work during nap times, you know, like to have the weekend

where I can really just like read and be with my husband. So I feel like really allowing the moments where the girls are asleep to also be a restful period for me. I love that. Well, thank you so much for coming on and doing this. This was amazing. How do you choose book is available anywhere?

And then if you want to grab the blueprint, I'll put the link in the show notes. I really recommend it. I feel like it's just a manual to you, like your own operating system and BossFeed will get you a discount on that. So I'll leave all the links. But thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. Wait, wait, wait, before you go, I would love to send you my seven-figure CEO operating system completely free as a gift. All you've got to do is leave us a review on this podcast because it really supports

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