the bossbabe podcast - 471: Why 99% of Online Businesses Will Die by 2030 (And How to Survive)
Episode Date: July 10, 2025The online business landscape is shifting, and fast. What worked even three years ago is now dangerously outdated, and most entrepreneurs haven’t caught up. In this episode, Natalie unpacks five non...-obvious shifts that founders must make to survive (and thrive) in a rapidly evolving market. You’ll learn why visibility and volume are no longer enough, how AI is commoditizing surface-level content, and what it really takes to build a business that lasts through 2030 and beyond. This episode is your roadmap to the next era of online business: one built on infrastructure, IP, thought leadership, and CEO-level clarity. If you want to stop surviving and start architecting a business designed for longevity, this is a must-listen. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Why the old online business playbook is collapsing (and no one’s talking about it) 01:04 - The rise of the Architect Founder + why clarity beats charisma 02:47 - AI, audience evolution + the death of surface-level offers 04:38 - Why your launches are getting flatter, even if you’re doing everything “right” 05:25 - The new goal: sustainability, structure + long-term trust 06:17 - Shift 1: From growth to infrastructure - what actually makes a business scalable 10:08 - Shift 2: From funnels to brand experiences - how to make your funnel unforgettable 15:17 - Shift 3: From content to thought leadership - what will actually cut through the noise 19:00 - Shift 4: From personal brand to proprietary IP - why visibility isn’t enough 22:36 - Shift 5: From doer to architect - how to build a business that runs without you 28:55 - The founder who thrives in 2030 will be the clearest, not the loudest RESOURCES + LINKS Follow Along On Instagram For More Content Specific To The 2030 Founder: @bossbabe.inc @iamnatalie + Subscribe On YouTube Build Your Freedom-Based Business Operating System™ This Summer At Our First-Ever Freedom High Summer School: A Live Challenge Designed To Help You Grow Your Audience, Make More Sales + Use AI Without Losing Your Voice. Save Your Seat Here. Sign Up For Our Free Weekly Newsletter & Get Insights From Natalie Every Single Week On All Things Strategy, Motherhood, Business Growth + More. Drop Us A Review On The Podcast + Send Us A Screenshot & We’ll Send You Natalie’s 7-Figure Operating System Completely FREE (value $1,997).
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Let's start here. The business advice that worked even three years ago is dangerously outdated now.
We are living through the collapse of an era where online success was driven by visibility,
volume and velocity. If you allowed fast and early you won. You didn't need depth,
you didn't need systems, you didn't even need results. You just needed a funnel and a canvot
template. But now the internet is growing up and the game is completely different. We are seeing
a mass extinction event in online
business but it feels like no one is naming it yet so coaches, creators, consultants quietly burning
out, quietly disappearing, quietly pivoting to agency work because they can't sell anymore.
Why? Because the middle of the market is collapsing. AI is commoditizing surface level content.
Audiences are way savvier now and personal brand isn't enough to build trust anymore because it feels like now
everyone looks like an expert. So if you've been building your business on
charisma, visibility or momentum alone I think that it's only a matter of time
before that well will run dry. But here's the next opportunity. The next era of
founders, they won't be the loudest,
they will be the clearest. They will be the ones, in my opinion, who build intellectual
property instead of just content. The ones who design systems that actually run their
businesses. The ones who protect their energy, think in decades and operate like CEOs, not
just creators. And that's exactly what this episode is about. I'm going to walk you through
five non-obvious
shifts that I believe every single founder needs to make now. If you want to stay relevant,
respected and richly compensated in 2030 and beyond, this is not a trend forecast, it is a
strategic recalibration for high performing women who aren't interested in short-term hype. If you
are building something with weight, with value, with longevity, let's get into it.
Here is what is happening right now
that I feel like no one is talking about.
The business models that built seven-figure brands
in the 2018 to 2021 window, they are breaking.
What used to be cutting edge,
the freebie nurture course funnel,
the personal brand growth hack playbook, the $2000 course with a pop-up community, you all know what
I'm talking about, the group program that has weekly calls and no backend delivery structure,
they are just not working the way that they used to.
And yet, most people are still trying to scale those same systems.
Still hiring based on outdated org charts,
still building content strategy for an attention economy that no longer exists.
Here's why I believe that is failing. One, AI just commoditized 80% of the
industry. Surface level information is now free. Execution level services are
now automated and vibe based offers can be mimicked in three prompts
or less. So if your differentiation lives in your templates, your content volume or
your ability to write a good hook, you're now competing with machines. And if your delivery
model hasn't evolved to actually deliver discernment, depth or transformation, it is only a matter
of time before your conversion
rates start shrinking. Two, audience behavior has matured. Your audience is
not dumb. Listen, they've bought the course, they've joined the membership,
they've seen the funnel so many times and now they're starting to ask better
questions. They are not just asking what does it cost and when's the deadline?
They are asking is this really worth it? Will I actually follow
through on my purchase? Will this one get me any further than the last one? So if your marketing
is just repackaged hype, if your testimonials are feeling really vague, if your program still
teaches what's already free now on YouTube or Chatupiti, that is a really short runway.
Three, the algorithm does not care how long you've been here. We have that is a really short runway. 3. The algorithm does not care how
long you've been here. We have moved from a merit-based game to a machine-optimized
one so your content isn't being shown because you've earned credibility. It's being shown
because the first three seconds hit an engagement metric, which means creators who don't even
have an offer are pulling more reach than founders who've built million-dollar businesses
solving real problems. So the solution isn't just to play louder, it is
to get smarter about how you use content. So building signal not just
visibility, building vaults not just a real or a short film video, building
trust over time not just trying to get more reach overnight. Really thinking
about those details. Four, launches, let's
be honest, are getting noisier. Attention is getting way more expensive. So here's
the part people don't say publicly. Even if you're doing everything right, maybe
the live launches are starting to feel flatter than before. You might notice
that your open rates are dipping. You might be feeling like your audience is
actually slower to convert. They're opting for the longer payment plans. You
are spending way more to get less traction. And it's not because you're
failing or you suck. It's because the model itself is noisier. Everyone's
launching, everyone's selling, everyone's optimized. And when everything is urgent
and everyone's the best at everything, nothing is. That's why I really believe
you need an ecosystem not just a funnel. So you need recurring value, not just recurring revenue. You need to design a business that isn't dependent
on your energy or your calendar to stay alive. So what is the point? I really
think the founder who will thrive in 2030 isn't the one who adapts the
fastest. It is the one who designs for what doesn't need to be constantly
adapted. Really think about that. It means building with more depth,
more structure, more clarity and more discernment because growth isn't the goal anymore. Just having
those quick bursts, sustainability is, longevity is. The game is no longer how fast can I get there,
the new game is how do I build something so durable, so valuable and so distinctive that I'm actually still the one that people trust five years from now. And I
really think that starts with the five shifts I want to walk you through. These
are the things that I'd be betting on right now if I was rebuilding from zero
and there are things that I'm thinking about as a multiple eight-figure founder.
So let's get into it. The first shift, the one that separates future-proof
founders from high-income freel freelancers is going from growth
to infrastructure.
Because what we're seeing right now is a generation
of business owners waking up with big numbers
and brittle businesses.
So let me tell you what I mean by that.
Cause I think we've probably all seen them on Instagram.
So they hit the revenue goals,
they had the $100,000 a month,
they've got the testimonials, they've built the audience but behind the scenes their team is over complicated, their systems are
feeling Frankensteined and duct taped together, their energy is completely shot and so is
our nervous system and it feels like everything still really depends on them. So what they've
done is they've scaled the top line but they've built a machine that needs this constant feeding and it feels
like the moment they stop moving it all slows down. That is not a sustainable company. That
is an energy drain. So let's just get really honest here. Growth
now is very cheap. You can buy it. You can fake it. Let's be honest. You can brute force
it through launches, through ads or appearances. You can say whatever you want
to say online. But infrastructure, that does take discernment. That does take real leadership
because it's not sexy. It's not Instagramable. It's not the shiny thing. It's that deep quiet
work, right? It's building systems, it's documenting processes, it's managing your team with real
leadership, it's mapping delivery flows, redesigning your
back-end logic. No one's clapping for it but it's the reason that you can take a month off and your
business doesn't flinch or, God forbid, fall apart. And here's another uncomfortable truth that I
think no one's talking about in the coaching world. Most scalable businesses are not scalable.
They are just bigger. They have more people, more offers, more platforms, more overhead,
but they don't have more margin. They don't really have more clarity. They don't have more peace.
Scale. Let's talk about what scale actually is. Consistency without the chaos, delivery without
that decision fatigue, revenue without all that reactivity and growth without the tight grip of
the founder. And you only get that by investing in the infrastructure
that most people skip over because it's boring,
it's unsexy and it doesn't get immediate results.
So then what do you actually build if that's the case?
Let me just give you some specifics here.
The first thing is a delivery engine, not a delivery mess.
So a very clear promise, clear milestones, clear rhythm.
You should be able to describe your entire client journey
in one sentence and hand it off. You really want a system that collects
and improves feedback. So your clients are telling you what to fix. Most people
just aren't actually listening at scale and paying attention to it so use forms,
looms, AI summaries, whatever it takes. Turn all of that insight into something
you can iterate on. You also really want centralized operations. I talked about this a lot but if you have
five different tools that don't talk to each other, it's just leaking energy and
time and resources and money. So choose like a central operating system, Notion,
Airtable, ClickUp and run your business there from the inside out. You also want
to have a hiring filter that is based on systems. Most people hire help instead of building a system. Then what they'll do is burn out
managing that team and I don't think your next hire should replace you. I
think it should replace a workflow or you can put AI in charge of doing that so
that you're just automating more and more and more. So the reframe here would
be instead of how do I make this bigger,
it's how do I make this hold its own weight without me?
The infrastructure, the sustainability,
and I think that's how you go from being in the business
to owning the business.
And then in the next five to 10 years,
I think that's the kind of business
that will survive the noise
and survive all of the changes that are happening.
Then let's move into shift number two. I think we need to be thinking about moving from static funnels to high converting brand experiences.
Now let me say this very clearly, I still teach funnels, I have programs teaching funnels,
I still use funnels, they are absolutely essential. But what I am telling my clients right now is if
your funnel looks like it was pulled from a 2020 template and it's not fun, valuable,
or distinctly you, I'm gonna guess it's probably not converting as well as it could be and
it's probably causing you a headache. But the funnel isn't necessarily the problem.
I really think it's the flatness of how most people build them. So I think you know exactly
what I'm talking about, right? You opt into a PDF that tells you everything you already
know. You might get dropped into a five email sequence full of generic
social proof and fake urgency. You might get pitched on a course without ever
feeling something real or like someone cares about you or someone
really understands you and I really think in a world where people are more
distracted, more skeptical and more tuned into energy than ever before that doesn't convert. It gets archived, people are unsubscribing, people are not
paying attention, they're certainly not clicking. So what I'm working on with my
own clients and inside my own business is how do we make this funnel so
different and so elevated? How do we make the process of buying feel like part of
the transformation? How do we give people more value before the sale than some people even given the paid programs?
Because the truth is people are already watching you.
They're probably already pre-qualified.
And so then the question is, are you guiding them through a sales experience that actually builds trust or breaks trust?
And that's a lot of what I'm hearing right now.
Those really hard pitches about anyone feeling cared about is breaking trust. So I think a
2025 ready funnel probably looks like something that's not louder, not more
complicated but actually is a lot smarter. It is warmer. Believe it or not in
this age of AI it is more human. So again here's what I'm telling my clients to do
and to focus on. I want you to have one clear offer but multiple access points. Everyone talks about simplifying but then
they go create seven different low-ticker products trying to build the top of their
funnel. You don't need more products. You need more intentional entry points that lead
to the same highly refined transformation. So an example might be a belief-shifting email
sequence. It might be a short quiz with really tailored personalised copy. example might be a belief shifting email sequence. It might be a short quiz
with really tailored personalised copy. It might be a 15 minute video that acts as a pattern
interrupt. It might be a paid workshop that leads to the main offer. So it's the same destination
but different doors based on how someone actually likes to engage. So you're giving them different
options. I also think you want to be designing for engagement not just attention and this is really big like I'm actively thinking
about this in my own business and thinking about how we can apply this but how do we make every
step of the funnel really irresistible to engage with? Not just come and watch the webinar but
feel really seen by it, want to share it, take screenshots, tell friends, not just read
the emails but open the third one because the first two were so good, forward it, save
it, highlight it, give it to their chat GPT as something they can think about. So layering
voice notes, screenshots of real coaching, value bombs that double as lead qualification,
really smart use of storytelling and pattern interrupt inside the sequence because engagement drives conversion, not pressure. And again, in this age of AI,
people aren't telling stories anymore. They're just copy and pasting copy. I also think that
you could treat the funnel like a mini version of your program. So here's what I tell every client,
the funnel is the product until they buy. So if someone doesn't feel the
clarity, conviction and emotional safety in the sales process, listen, they are not going to trust
you with that transformation, right? So we really have to ask, what does my ideal buyer need to
believe to say yes? What emotional blocks can we be preempting? How do we build trust in motion,
not just after the cart opens? Because a lot of people save the best for the sale.
So yes, I'm talking about removing friction, but I'm talking about layering value, storytelling,
and belief building right inside the funnel.
And that's what builds a buying experience that people remember and feel really good
about being part of.
And if they don't feel good about being part of it, they're going to just churn from your list or churn from your audience. Like I've said I don't think the funnel needs to
be louder, I think it needs to be clearer. I don't think it needs to be fancier but it needs to feel
more like you the human. They don't need to be high pressure, they really need to work with how
your ideal client makes decisions and I really think that is the future especially when it comes to
digital marketing. And so the reframe that I really want you to think about is you are not just setting
up a funnel, you are designing a branded sales experience that delivers real insight before they
buy. It qualifies buyers with resonance not just scarcity and tactics. It moves people quickly because it feels safe to move. They feel like they
are going to be really taken care of. And I think in this world flooded with sales pages that all
sound the same, this is what cuts through. Okay let's move into shift three. Moving from content
creation to thought leadership. Now listen this is not groundbreaking and I'm not here to
knock content creation, we still need it, it matters, but let's double down. Here's
what I'm telling my clients right now and what I'm also working on in my own
business because I'm paying attention to all the stuff that I'm sharing with you.
If you are posting every day but no one remembers what you stand for, I don't
think you have like a content problem, I think you have a leadership problem and that is not solved with volume. That really is about clarity,
right? And that's where a lot of people get stuck so they will band-aid clarity with volume.
The truth is, content is no longer scarce. It is everywhere. AI is flooding every single platform
with pretty decent writing. Creators are publishing more than ever before but attention is shrinking. People do not want more content. They want a
source that they can really trust. They want someone whose perspective actually
makes them pause and think. They want someone who helps them make sense of
what they're feeling but haven't actually named yet. Someone who says the
thing that they've been circling around but
they and their chat-chipity can't quite articulate it, that's not just content. I really believe that
is what makes up thought leadership and if you're wanting to build a personal brand this is something
that I want you to have top of mind. Let's just talk about the difference. I think content creation
can be quite reactive. It's you know what should I post today, this week, what's trending? Whereas thought leadership is really rooted. It's your lens,
it's your frameworks, it's your body of work, and it's less about how often you post and more about
what people associate with you when you do. So what I'm really encouraging my clients to get really,
really clear on is what do you want to be known for in five years? Like if you could pick one word what's the word or what truth are you planting your
flag in over and over and over again? What is your proprietary lens that
reshapes how people think not just what they do? What's your point of view?
Because I think in 2030 the most in-demand brands will not be the ones
with the most reach. They will be the ones who've built recognizable resonance. They are not the ones just
chasing reach for the sake of it. So inside my own business here's what I'm
building and what I'm really thinking about. I am currently auditing my own
content against three criteria. So is it helping people make a decision? Does this
deepen trust or does it just perform well? Would someone quote this back to me a year from now? So I am really really thinking
about quality over quantity. I'm thinking about resonance over reach and we are
building a content vault, not a content treadmill. What I feel like that means
is evergreen core pieces of content that define our belief system as a business.
Sharp original IP that shows how we think and what our point of view is. Case studies
and story-based teaching that anchors credibility in emotion that people can
really see themselves in and relate to. And then we've also really started to
shift how we're measuring success. So it's not just likes or comments, it's are
we creating buying behaviour?
Are we shortening the sales cycle with our content? Are we pre-qualifying people through the
perspectives that we're sharing that they can either relate to or repel from? Because I would
rather post three times a month and convert leaders than post daily and stay stuck chasing
engagement with no conversion or just getting followers for the sake of it. And so if you are stuck in that cycle of content, content, content, maybe
the reframe that you need is now content doesn't build businesses, clarity builds businesses,
content just delivers it. And if you want to become the voice your people come back
to when they're ready to move, you do not need to be saying more. You need to say what only you can say and say it so clearly that they remember it when they are scrolling so quickly
past a hundred other people. And then let's move into shift four, moving beyond personal brand to
proprietary intellectual property. And again, why not throwing out the personal brand? It is still
one of the fastest ways to build trust and I I think it's only gonna continue to grow.
But the problem that I see
with a lot of personal brand businesses right now
is they are built around personality and not assets.
They generally will be working
as long as the founder is posting.
They sell as long as the founder is on.
They convert as long as the founder is doing the convincing.
That's not freedom. That creates a business that is dependent on visibility instead of
driven by assets. And I think this becomes even more dangerous as AI levels the playing
field because if your product looks like someone else's and your delivery sounds like everyone
else's and the only difference is you, that is not scalable.
That is a high cost business with no valuation.
So what I'm working on with my clients right now
is asking, what do you own that no one else can replicate?
What would still work in your business
if you took a month off social media?
If someone else was to teach your method,
would the transformation still hold?
Because those are IP questions.
And I think the future, it's not about having a brand that's visible, it's about having
assets that are really defensible, that are really really valuable, that really differentiate
you. So let's talk about what counts as proprietary IP. And let's define it because I think this
gets confused really often. It is not just a framework with a cute acronym, it is not a diagram in Canva, it is not the vibe
you give in your Instagram captions, right? Although listen, love all of those
things. Real IP is a repeatable documented method for getting results.
It's a visual or a verbal model that simplifies decision-making, a lens that
your industry starts using even if they don't credit you, a concept that gets adopted inside and outside of
your ecosystem, right? So hopefully that's starting to get your wheels turning
maybe about other IP you recognize. If someone can't describe how your process
is any different from a competitor's then you don't have proprietary IP, you
have brand familiarity and I just don't have proprietary IP, you have brand familiarity
and I just don't think that is enough in a market that is compressing.
So inside my own business, again bringing it back here's what I'm focused on, we are pressure testing
all of our signature methods. Are they documented? Are they teachable without me in the room? Can
they be licensed, certified or embedded into other platforms. Because the more you can transfer your insight into systems, frameworks and deliverables that don't require your personality
to carry them, the more scalable and sellable your business becomes. And I think that's how you
increase margin and valuation. That's how you can start to think like a company and not just a
content creator. So I'm really working with people on letting them know your ability to get people results isn't enough. I do think you need to codify how
you do it. If you want to train a team, license your content or scale delivery
IP is probably the precondition and the earlier you build your intellectual
infrastructure the easier it becomes to build leverage which is beyond your time
and your energy because a founder without that intellectual property is probably a founder who will eventually plateau no matter how
strong their brand is just because of how fast moving everything is right now and how
much things are changing. So I think the shift is personal brand creates visibility. Great.
Proprietary IP creates value and in 2030, the founders with value,
they'll have options.
Maybe they're able to license, to exit scale or step back
because their business isn't just tied
to their face or their feed.
It's built on thinking that has been packaged,
proven and productized.
And that's the difference between being the brand
and building one.
You know, we are licensing our brand now nationwide.
And then the final shift is one
that determines how long you'll last from CEO and doer to CEO and architect. Because let's be real,
a lot of people calling themselves CEOs right now, they're not leading companies. They are
managing to-do lists with much better branding. They've built teams, yes. They've hit revenue
goals, yes. But they are still the decision-maker and bottleneck for absolutely everything. Still delivering everything, still the system in the system, which means they
are operating like an employee with way more stress and I just don't think that is sustainable.
What I am seeing in a lot of high-income businesses behind the scenes that I get a chance to look
at is CEOs running million-dollar businesses with no documented delivery process or every new
hire is being trained directly by the founder because they have the belief that no one else
can do it like them or projects are getting done but only when the founder is pushing them forward.
Maybe the founder goes on vacation and the Slack channel goes completely dead and I just don't
think that's leverage. I think that's dependence and I think dependence is really fragile. So here's the real distinction. A doer solves problems. An architect builds systems that
prevent the problem from happening again and the longer you stay in doer mode, even if you're amazing
at it, the more you stunt the actual scalability of your business because doing gets you growth.
But architecture is what gives you margin, resilience,
and eventually freedom.
And I know that's why you're here.
So what does architecture look like?
Let's make it really tangible.
So you stop hiring for capacity
and you start hiring for ownership.
Most founders bring people in to take tasks off their plate.
Architects are doing that,
but also bringing people in to own the outcome
of those tasks.
And they define success clearly enough that it can be repeated without them being involved. You would
also be building a business that runs on rhythm not reaction. So doers are living
in urgency. Architects are living in cadence. So that's weekly reviews, it's
documented SOPs, it's having decision-making protocols, roles that are
clearly defined and don't overlap with one
under there, time blocks that protect strategy time. And I get it, none of this is sexy but it
is what turns chaos into machine that runs with or without you and I think that's important.
And then another change is I think you shift from driving growth to managing energy and I don't mean
that in the fluffy sense because when you're the architect your job isn't to do all the work It is to design the environment that makes the high-level execution possible
You set the vision you define the constraints you protect the quality and you create the structure that keeps people moving without your presence
Being required in all of the details. So again based on this what I'm talking to you about is here's what I'm doing in my own
Business right now. So we're simplifying roles so that there's no gray space between who owns what.
We are documenting a lot of delivery logic so anyone on the team could run a cohort without
me if need be.
We are pressure testing delegation not just by offloading tasks but by measuring output
without my involvement.
We are building a machine that amplifies my leadership but it doesn't just
depend on it and that's been really important for me as I am planning to take a maternity leave.
And I will be honest, this requires a deeper level of self-trust. I think you really have to learn how
to let go of being needed. You have to shift from proving your value to designing systems that
actually deliver value. You have to step into the identity of the person
who doesn't just create results,
but who builds the infrastructure
that creates results at scale.
What I tell a lot of my clients is,
if your business still needs you for absolutely everything,
it is not ready to grow.
It is barely surviving.
You probably don't want growth in this kind of arena.
And I don't think the real win
is like a quick $100,000 a month. I think it's being able to step out for three
weeks and come back to revenue results and retention that didn't dip once. That
is not luck. That is architecture and that's the difference. So the final final
shift that I want to leave you with is you are not here to scale chaos. You are
here to design leverage and so I think your new job is not to do more,
but to really think about building better.
I think the founder who still needs to show up
for absolutely everything will always be a freelancer,
no matter how much money they're making.
But the founder who is building with clarity,
constraint and systems that create value
without their constant presence,
that's the founder who I think is gonna thrive
in 2030 and
beyond. So just zooming out for a moment, you know we've walked through the five shifts that I really
believe will define the founders who not only survive the next era but lead it. So let's just
recap those really quickly. So going from growth to infrastructure because revenue without rhythm
is just a really expensive chaos. Going from funnels to high converting brand experiences because I just don't think people want
to be pushed through a system anymore. They want to feel seen and they want to
feel moved to act. It's going from content creation to thought leadership
because being remembered for something real is infinitely more valuable than
just being seen all the time. It's going from personal brand to proprietary IP
because your ideas need to work when you're not time. It's going from personal brand to proprietary IP because your
ideas need to work when you're not in the room and going from doer to architect because the real flex
in my opinion is stepping out without the business completely falling apart and the truth that I
really want to land you do not need to burn it all down. You do not need to scrap your funnels,
your team, your content, your systems but you do need to elevate the way that you think. Because the founders who are still operating off 5
year old advice, I think they're already seeing the cracks. I think their launches aren't
converting the way they used to, the audience isn't engaging the way they used to, the
model just isn't holding up, and their nervous systems are really maxed out. And if that's
you, it is not your fault. But it is our responsibility
as founders to evolve. So I really think that the founders in 2030, the ones who will thrive,
they aren't the loudest, they are the clearest. They are the ones who simplify by design,
who build systems with precision, who scale results, not just revenue. They are not playing
the short game, they are not building for applause, they are building infrastructure, assets and identity
driven ecosystems that create margin, trust and time and they're asking better
questions. What becomes easier as we grow? How do we build for depth not just
distribution? What will make this still feel aligned and alive for me five years
from now? Because we are not here to scale noise. Like
I said, we're not here to scale more chaos. We are really here to scale signal and that
signal will last. So here is my invitation to you. If you are building for what's next,
build like you mean it. Build like you want to stay here. Refine your model, really own
your message, protect your energy, lead like the
CEO of something that deserves to exist for the long haul. And if you want help doing that, stick
around. Everything that I'm going to be sharing moving forward on this podcast, in my programmes,
behind the paywall is really designed for the founder in 2030. I want to be really thinking
ahead. The founders who aren't afraid to be thinking deeply, to be building differently, to be leading
better and to create something that actually earns the word legacy in a way
that is freedom based because you do not have to give your entire life to build a
business that supports your life. So if you're in please make sure you're
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