The Bossticks - #105: Stephen Pasterino - Founder of P.volve, Elongate Your Shape, Eliminate Bulk, Victoria's Secret Routines, & Fitness Misconceptions

Episode Date: March 12, 2018

On this episode we are joined by Stephen Pasterino the creator and founder of P.volve On this episode we discuss how to elongate your shape and eliminate bulk. What the Victoria's Secret angels do to prep for their shows, the importance of your hips in your fitness routine, and Diet/Fitness Misconceptions To try P.volve for free for 30 days go to https://my.pvolve.com/VIPaccess   and use Code: TSC30 The Code is Active until 4/16/18 To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE This episode is brought to you by Liquid I.V.  Liquid I.V. is the great-tasting, portable powder drink mix that is changing the way the world hydrates. The hydration multiplier uses the breakthrough science of Cellular Transport Technology (CTT) to deliver hydration to the bloodstream faster and more efficiently than water alone. Available in Lemon Lime and Acai Berry, Liquid I.V. contains three times the electrolytes of leading sports drinks and is free from preservatives, artificial sweeteners or colors. One stick can provide the same hydration as drinking two to three bottles of water. The benefits of proper hydration include improved athletic performance, fighting jet lag, burning calories, decreased signs of aging, and boosted mental clarity. go to www.liquid-iv.com and ENTER PROMO CODE SKINNY20 AT CHECKOUT TO RECEIVE 20% OFF YOUR ORDER This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis. They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices.  Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinny to receive $60 of FREE organic groceries from Thrive Market + free shipping and a 30 day trial!" Keep in mind that Thrive Market's  prices are already 25- 50% below retail because they cut out the middleman. And now they are offering $60 off free organic groceries!  

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And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. Aha. Welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her show. This week we have Stephen Paserino on the show. We talk all things fitness. The Victoria's Secret pre-show regimen,

how to implement physical therapy in your workout routine and nutrition. Hey guys, it's Lauren. And obviously it's Michael. Hi, Michael. Hi, Lauren. I thought it would be fun if before we got into the show, since this is so fitness heavy, if we talked about what we're doing for our fitness routines right now. So I've been doing a lot of heavy weights right now.

We know you talk about it every five seconds. Really, really strong. Probably one of the strongest guys around right now. I'm just kidding. I, you know, we've been doing a lot of aerobic workouts and cardio workouts, and I feel like I need to put on some more mass right now. So I'm doing, I switch it up and I'm doing a lot of heavy weight. a lot of low repetitions, a lot of days off, right?

When you're trying to build muscle mass, you need to take days off because you're breaking down your muscles and you need time to let them build and recover. And then when you're trying to lose weight, you want to hit it more frequently and, you know, not do such heavy weights for mass bulking. So give us an example of what a week of fitness is for you. Right now, I like this type of fitness a lot because, in my opinion, it's the easiest, at least for me, because... What's this type of fitness?

Well, for me, it's trying to put on muscle. I think I can put on muscle luckily pretty easily. But the reason I like it the most, and that sounds arrogant, but the reason I like it the most right now is because I'm pretty much eating, not whatever I want, but I'm eating a lot. I've never seen you eat so much. You are stuffing your face. Normally you're not attached to food. That's true.

And I'm not so concerned with like healthy carbs or fat. I'm just basically eating to gain weight. That must be nice. So it's nice. It's nice right now. That's what I'm saying it's easiest. And yeah, and the workouts, you know, while they're tiring and they break down the muscle, they're not, is high intensity. So I can just do a couple of weights, slam them around here and there and then gain some biceps, you know? Love it. So for my workout routine, for the last year, I have been doing three things that I think

are really working for my body type. I've been doing workouts with Kim Kelly, who were launching the body guide revamped in like the next month. And we've been doing that probably three times a week. And we just do that at the beach. Or we'll go to my home gym. And we'll just work out together for probably about an hour. Sometimes we'll only do 30 minutes if we don't have time. And that's a lot of kind of circuit training, a lot of butt.

Has my butt gotten tighter? Butts looking good. But it's looking good. Okay. Almost a bite because I was just want to take a bite out of it. So yeah, a lot of butt. We're doing a lot of arms, but we also stretch during the workout

and we're going to bring all those workouts to the body guide. Another workout I've been doing, if you guys follow me on Instagram, is I've been doing a lot of reformer Pilates. I just feel like it works really well for my body. It stretches you out and lengthens you while you're building like lean muscle. So that's been really interesting.

And then also, of course, yoga. I do that more for mental clarity. I just feel like I go into yoga with files everywhere in my head. And then I take a yoga class and all the files are organized. I did that this morning. And I just have so much clarity after I leave. I've tried to think of that not as a workout, but more as something that just helps me mentally.

But I want to say this. I did take Stevens workout. We did a class together. And what I really like about his workout is that he teaches you the mind-body connection of work. where to put it. So I noticed that I was putting a lot of my workouts in my quads. And after working out with Stephen, I learned how to really put it in my ass. And he talks about this during the podcast, he talks about why it's so important to use the glute because it's the biggest muscle.

And I've been noticing looking back that I haven't been using the glute as much. I'd been using my quad. So with his workouts, I just really, really learned where to put it and to tell my brain to kind of put it in the glute instead of the quad. As I've gotten older with fitness, I realize how important form is because a lot of people have really bad form. Steven's really great with that. Yeah. And I think it's much more important to get form down and go slow and make sure that that's right

as opposed to speeding through your workout and getting it done. Like slower, less weight or less repetitions with good form and the long run is much better. Yeah. And next time you guys are working out, notice where you're putting all your work. And if it's in your quad, try to switch it to your ass because the assmen told me. He's known as the Asman in GQ. Okay, so tonight we will be on the red carpet. Actually, we probably won't because you're not going to be ready in time.

We are going to the premiere of Tomb Raider, and we're going to see Laura Croft. Do you know who Lowercroft is on? No, honey, you got to give me all the deeds before we go. You hate when I see movies and I haven't seen the, like, prequel. You never grew up playing Tomb Raider, the PlayStation? I missed that part. Angelina Jolie was in it for a while. Now it's a new one.

Nope. Okay, so you're in for a surprise, rating some tombs. We're going to have a little champagne. I am known to fall asleep in the movie theater, though. We went to, remember we went to the Cannes Film Festival and you were asleep the whole time, snoring? I was tired. I'm sure the, I'm sure the film, the team that put that film together really appreciated you

being asleep in their movie. I needed some electrolytes. That's true. You needed some electrolytes. And if you would have had some liquid IV, you might have been hydrated enough to get through the event. That's true. Okay, guys. So we've talked about it before.

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He has a purse, you guys. Why do you call it a man bag? I don't know. It's a backpack for children. You call it whatever you want to call it. And we're getting ready to travel in the next 10 days. We'll be bringing them on every flight because high altitude, it's really easy to get dehydrated. Especially when you're on the plane. Yeah, it's suck. So just throw some in your bag, bring it, put in your water. Your purse. Yeah, your man purse.

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I just think that staying hydrated is one of the most important things that you can do for your body, especially when you're hung over. So you'll hear on this interview how important it is for your skin and your fitness and your nutrition. Pretty much every skin and health expert that we've had on the podcast says their biggest tip is to stay hydrated. It sounds simple, but I feel like you forget. So with these mini packets that they're to go, you just throw them in your bag, it's easy to remember. Yeah, and there's no preservatives, artificial sweeteners and colors. Liquid IV is dairy-free, gluten-free, soy-free, and vegan. So, like we said, we've been taking the lemon and lime, but it comes in two flavors.

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Get all your electrolytes in. Just go to Liquid dash iv.com and enter code Skinny 15 at checkout to try this product. Enjoy. All right, Michael. Let's get into the him and her tip of the. the week. Okay, my hem tip this week, since we're talking to fitness and we're talking to Stephen, is about switching it up, right? Switching your fitness regimen up. We're talking a lot about working out on this episode. My tip is to not get complacent and not do the same things all the time,

be open new things. What happens if you've been doing the same workout for a long time is you start to not, you start to feel yourself not getting the same results, right? You start to plateau. and that's because your body has probably gotten used to that workout in those exercises. And so you hit a point where doing the same thing repetitively over and over and over again stops getting you the results if you were to, you know, try something different or switch it up, which is why, you know, I was doing a lot of aerobics, a lot of cardio, and now I'm switching to weights. So it's shocked my body.

So I'm getting results really, really quick. I notice a lot of people start working out and then they get discouraged because they're no longer getting the results they got in the beginning. And that's because your body has gotten used to doing the same thing too many times. You ever seen those guys in the gym? They never do leg day. And they go in there and they do the bench press over and over and they do biceps over and over and they just stay the same.

Well, that's because they do the same thing over and over again. So guys and girls, it's important to switch it up. My entire life, I've gone and done different workouts, switch things up, tried new things, weights, aerobics, stretching, whatever it is, activities. So if you're having a hard time, you're like, okay, where do I start? I would recommend maybe going outside the box, trying a different class, maybe take up boxing, maybe take up yoga, maybe take up weights. I'm not a big fan of CrossFit, but if that's your cup of tea, then try that.

The point is, is maybe try to switch it up every two to three months. I'm sure some trainers would come in and say sooner or later. I'm not an expert, but all I know is that throughout my life, switching it up and shocking my body has gotten me a ton of results. So switch it up. I like it. Good tip. Speaking of switching it up, I'm actually not going to give a tip.

I'm going to ask the audience for their health. This is like a major thing that I need help on. It's a public service announcement. I think you're going to be really happy about this. I don't know shit about deodorant. You don't say. The other day we were podcasting with Jackie Schimel and I was like, even I was like, whoa, dude. Okay, yeah, I got to put on some deodorant.

Like this is like a thing. I know. It's time. We have to repaint the walls of the new deal. It's not that bad, you guys. Okay. So I don't wear deodorant. There's something about putting deodorant underneath my armpits that just grosses me out.

I just don't like it near my boobs. It's too much going on, you know? So basically, I am asking you guys, do you guys have a deodorant that works? Because I have tried every kind. I've tried the la vanilla. I've tried a primal pit. I've tried everything and it doesn't work for me. So my tip of the week is actually an ask of the week.

can you go to my Instagram, please, on any picture and recommend a deodorant that works. Now, I have a couple specifics. I don't want aluminum in it. There's something about aluminum by my armpit that I'm just not into. We all know Michael uses Old Spice, which is... Old Spice is nice. Babe, Old Spice is aluminum in me. I'm going to go down smelling spicy.

You do that. So I just really, really need your advice if you have any... you recommend, you can tag the brand, you can tell me why you like it. Probably coconut oil based, if you can find one. Again, the aluminum next to my boobs and my lymph nodes just doesn't work for me. Please, please, please help, like anything. Okay, so that's my her tip. Let me reinforce that ask.

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And again, that's thrive market.com slash skinny. It's not a coupon, guys. It's an actual link. Happy shopping. Stephen Pasterino was dubbed The Ass Man by GQ Magazine. His method is called P-Volve and helps to help people transform their bodies through sustainable methods that create incredible tone and definition without straining, damaging, or bulking muscles. Perfect for us, The P-Volve approach to fitness is very much about creating confidence and building a strength. Stephen's been obsessed with fitness for about 15 years and is very much focused on the functional science. Stephen incorporates physical therapy and rehabilitation movements into exercise to help clients

develop long, lean muscle tone to eliminate bulk. He's worked with thousands of women to achieve real visible results. He also happens to train a bunch of celebrities and Victoria's Secret models so he knows his shit guys. He's a fitness disruptor, which is why we wanted him on the show. And today, he's going to talk about why it's important for women to examine their approach to fitness and create long-term results. With that, let's welcome the ass man to the show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. Stephen Pastorino. That's right. Here live in the studio. First, you know, this is the first time we've ever recorded in the studio? Really? I swear to God, we just got this whole thing set up,

just started Deer Media Studio. And you are the first. You are the first time. You are the first time. You are the first ever guest in the studio for your first ever podcast that's amazing we have a beautiful view i mean the weather out here is just amazing it's insane and we just got done with your workout you trained me for an hour and it was insane we're going to get into it okay first i'll let michael hop right into it so yeah i mean give us a little bit of background to start we were talking a little bit before like yeah for the for those of you for the people out there that haven't um then i'm not familiar with your work give us a little background uh all right so i'm gonna go back about 15 years i mean i've always been obsessed with fitness, you know, playing sports growing up. I was a swimmer. I played football.

I was always running, biking, and just always obsessed with the body, how to make it better, how to look better, how to feel better, you know, proportions and getting the ratios right and how I could change muscle, maybe make one bigger or smaller, and basically became an expert like most men are in just, you know, developing muscle, getting bigger, lifting weights, running sprints, pushing sleds, all that stuff. And I actually, you know, before I even moved to New York, I had like an epiphany at about 25, right before I moved there. I was breaking down my body so bad. I was starting to get joint pain after about 10 years of working out. Just too big? You got too big? I wasn't too big. But just the wear and tear of exercise kind of took me to a place

where I thought, I think I'm actually doing more harm than good. And then everyone I knew who also was working out also wasn't feeling that great either a lot of injuries you know arthritis in their elbows just just crazy stuff and anyway moving on from that and i'll touch back on that later um but i moved to new york five years ago started training i was in you know working in soho and there was a lot of women in soho working out doing deadlifts doing squats just doing like NFL football workouts you know some workout that you might see online that was like a Navy SEAL workout, you know, you have these young girls doing it. And I just felt like it was counterintuitive to what they wanted. And I spent a lot of time listening to what they were looking for. And I just met a lot of different women,

had a lot of conversations, and people were frustrated. They just were working out so much, working out six days a week, and weren't getting the results they were looking for. So from that point on, I knew there had to be something different. So how did you create this method. Like, tell us about exactly how you went from A to B. You're talking with these girls, they're telling you all these issues. How did you have that aha moment? Well, it started with, you know, going back to my background. I knew that just about 98% of the exercises they were doing were going to make them more swollen and bigger. So that was out. And I was still meeting a lot of women who were doing bar, Pilates, yoga. And, you know, those things are great. They're great workout.

but it still wasn't bringing them to where they wanted to go. And I just knew I had to reinvent this whole thing and find a different way. And I got really lucky. I came upon this school called the Gray Institute. And it's basically a group of physical therapists who have their own method of physical therapy. And they have a one-year program. I got in, was in school with all these doctors, and just learned all about bone and joint motions. you know, understanding the body as a whole, how it works, and not how it works when you're

lifting a weight, but how it works when you're walking down a hill or up the stairs or, you know, just taking a step and rotating to pick something up. Our bodies are so complex. They're so dynamic, and there really is so much to understand. And it goes so much deeper than what we're all really used to. So that really opened up a whole new world for me. And it just changed the way I look at the body, changed the way I look at fitness. And from there, I started using this methodology and I was turning it into exercise.

And I spent years just testing it. And I opened a studio in New York, small studio. And it was really just my science lab. I had the clients. And I was just testing this stuff out, trying to do these new exercises, you know, figuring things out, you know, how to get a reaction out of one muscle versus another. And, you know, fast forward three years. I was just having unbelievable results.

and here I am now, and now we have P-Volve, which is, you know, we've got this workout down so good, and I want to share it with just everybody. So fundamentally, what is the, what are the cornerstones or the keystones of P-Volve? So I'm focused, like, on the hips, and I'm focused on the joints. The biggest complaints, I think, are, for number one, we talked about this is the inner thighs. Women have such a hard time toning their inner thighs. Oh, it's such a pain in the ass. It's such a pain.

And a lot of women, I mean, thighs is the number. one thing that I've gotten. It's definitely the hardest part of the body to change and tone up. And I mean, nobody was doing it in New York. And all these women were ending up in my gym. And the number one thing that produces the results are focusing on the hips. So explain, because I feel like in my life I have bad hips. And I like other stuff is pretty rounded out maybe. I don't have problems lower back maybe, but hips are bad. So what specifically can you do for the hips? Because I don't think a lot of people, especially me, think about the hips in the workout regimen. Yeah. So, you know, it's the crossroads, your body. I mean, your butts

attached to it. Your thighs are attached to it. Your lower stomach runs through it. And usually when the hips are off, the whole body gets thrown off. It's a very complex biomechanical system. And, you know, getting all these different hip motions, creating the mobility, turns on muscles, and then in turn yields results. So when we were working out today, I'm so using. I'm so using, to putting all the work in my thighs. That's where I put the work. But you had me doing all these exercises that it wasn't like CrossFit, but it was exercises that you had to engage the hips.

And how you did that was you flexed the butt. Yeah. So number one thing, everyone walking in that I've noticed, everyone's quad dominant. They're more active in their quads versus their butt. And the reason why is because the body takes the path of least resistance always. So it doesn't matter what workout you're doing. nobody's focusing on what they're doing.

They're just running through it. They're focusing on sweating, getting that burn, and they're becoming quad-dominant. Your thighs aren't as strong as your butt. I always say this. The glutes are the biggest, strongest muscle in the body. They propel you, they take you in every direction. They're dead center, and they control everything that goes on. So, you know, step one, what is that?

Let's get them more butt-dominate. Let's get them out of the thighs. Let's get the hips open. And let's get their butt bigger, stronger, and, well, not bigger, but more lifted. and let's get that pressure out of the legs. That's step one. And as soon as you do that, you see the swelling go away almost instantly. Why?

It's just, when you take it out of the hips and you take it to the butt, you can see inflammation go away? Literally. So, you know, inflammation, it doesn't matter if it's in the ankles, the calves, the back, the shoulders. You can always follow inflammation and link it to a joint, a joint restriction. And anytime a joint gets bound up, usually hips, because we're all sitting and sitting in cars, and we're sitting all day long, so we get stuck in flexion. You can always trace inflammation back to a locked up joint. So release those joints, the inflammation is going to start to go away.

You know, activate the butt, and you're getting all that pressure out of the thighs. Downward pressure, to me, is like the number one enemy. You want your butt to do the work. You don't want your thighs to do the work. The thighs are more for stability and just transferring that energy from the glutes to the ground and back up. So if someone's sitting at home right now and they want to do something that transfers the energy from their quads to their butt, what can they do? The simplest thing, and you'll see if you do my streaming or you work out with me, I say it nonstop. Keep your knees back.

So you can. Like not over the foot when you're squatting or whatever? Just don't keep the knee over the foot. Just keep it back. I always say put the weight in your heels. Like you're sitting in a chair. Like you're sitting in chair. And then the other thing that I do, so I don't do squats in my workout.

I'm anti-squat and I'm anti-lunge. And the reason for that is because as soon as you go down in that position, where is that pressure go? It goes right into your quad. It goes right into your knees. So basically, I took the squat and I cut maybe 80% of it off. So I have the girls drop down into what I call a sit. And basically all they're doing is they're just dropping down low enough where it's just keeping the pressure in the glutes. And you're stopping right before that point where the pressure goes to the legs.

And then reverse the motion and come back up. And that's training their brain to use their butt. more than their thighs. So let me ask you this. Why women? Let me listen. Good looking guy. I'm sure they're not complaining. But why, you know, we're talking about football and all sorts of sports. How did you get involved training women as opposed to men? And Victoria's Secret models. Well, let's, yeah. But I'm curious because, you know, with your background, you'd think you'd train more men. Well, men are easy. And, you know, I'm a huge, I grew up as a huge Arnold Schwarzenegger fan. You're a huge fan of Arnold Schwarzenegger. And, and, and, and, you're a huge fan of Arnold.

And he wrote the guideline to getting a perfect male physique. I mean, he wrote it all out. And it's the same workout you've been seeing for 40 years. You go into any gym in America. What's everyone doing? They're doing that same workout, the crunches and the shoulder press. And that produces muscle development. You put on weight, you put on size.

And for women, I don't think anyone came up with a way to really tone up and just really accentuate the natural curves of a woman's body or a man's body. I mean, this is the only, this is the workout I do now. And it just brings me back to my natural shape. And I don't think any workout was doing that. And some of them might get close, but. No, well, listen, I mean, when Lauren would train, she would train with some of my trainers, and it was a lot of the workouts you're talking about. And she would complain. And I, and I would ask the guys and say, you know, like, these are workouts that we do to try to bulk me up, bulk my legs up and you know there's the typical trainer thing was like oh you got to build the muscle

to burn the fat but i think that if you're there's no there's no way around bulking right if that's if those are the workouts you're doing heavy squats and leg lifts and all the things you're going to bulk so i think it's smart i think it's extremely smart yeah and when i started it was like how do i create a workout for an hour that will not bulk you at all and that was the number one complaint from women it was i'm working out and i'm just bulking up and you know some people that's what you want if you want to develop that type of body, but for the majority, for all the conversations I was having, it was how do I just get tighter and, you know, more contoured? And this workout that I have, it's a strength and conditioning program, but it doesn't build you up and bulk you up. It just

takes you to a natural shape that, you know, fits your physique. Makes sense. I mean, I notice when I do spin and super gnarly crossfit, I'm starving. And I totally feel inflamed. Now, today, after working out with you, I don't feel that same way at all. Can you talk to me about the difference between, you know, something like CrossFit and what you do and what the differences are before and after the workout? Absolutely. So another big goal with P-Volv and what I've tried to do is, you know, I never want to break anybody's body down. I don't want to break the muscle tissue down. Because that, when you want to get bigger, when you want to build up the muscle, what do you do? You break it down. You get a ton of food. It gets bigger. Same thing. And you repeat that over and over again.

I want the opposite. So let's work the muscles. Let's get them very active. Let's condition them. But let's not take it so far that we're breaking up that muscle tissue. And, you know, when you do that, your body's starving. It's craving those calories and it makes you hungry. And then everything you put in your body, it holds on to.

I also think we talked a little bit about stress and cortisol. Can you kind of speak on that? Absolutely. Another thing, you know, we have enough stress in our lives. Stress is like, it kills you. It's the worst thing. And it causes weight gain, causes inflammation. So, you know, you want to work out five, six days a week. That's great. But how can I deliver that and not put any stress on the body? So, you know, you got to watch your cortisol levels that equals weight gain. And one of the biggest things I see from women coming into my gym is, you know, they just work. They do so much. They're just work themselves down. You know, they're super stressed out and actually end up gaining weight. That is so nuts. I've seen that from a lot of women. You were telling me earlier, they work out seven days a week and it's almost too much. It's way too much. And, you know, when I was getting ready for the Victoria Secret Show, I had a couple of girls and, you know, we weren't doing more than five days a week and we were doing an hour a day. And we were breaking it up. So, you know, two days on, one day off, always given the body a rest, always giving it a chance to recover. And you'll actually find that you can work out X amount of days and then you'll start. start to swell. You've got to give your body arrest, let it recover, and it actually

tightens up. So let's rewind a little bit because this is intriguing to me. How did you get involved with the Victoria's Secret women? My wife's looking at me with death and stuff. But I think a lot of people would be interested because to just casually, do you want to walk as an angel in the show? Like, I don't get it. Listen, I think a lot of people out there, you know, when I was doing the Victoria's Secret show sounds very casual, but I mean, that's obviously a milestone. Yeah. How did you get involved? You don't meet the height requirement. I don't know. I'm going to get a few tips here and then maybe that'll be my secondary job after this podcast over.

Yeah, you know, for me, it didn't start with Victoria's Secret Models or actresses or celebrities. It started with just everyday women. And, you know, all ages, backgrounds, lifestyles, body types, all coming to me saying, hey, I heard about you have this new workout. Let me see if it works. I heard about it out from a friend. And, you know, I spent years in the gym with just everyday women getting them into phenomenal shape better than anyone else was doing. And, you know, they might not be six foot tall,

but their bodies really weren't any different than the VS models. I mean, the proportions, the contours in their thighs, the shape of their glutes, the perfect posture, you know, the toneness of the arms, they might have a different bone structure, but our anatomy is virtually all the same. And you get little differences, but I truly believe that if you can take any woman and just give her her natural body and get her, you know, accentuate her natural curves. Everyone looks amazing. Are you seeing that you have to also change the diet along with the workout? Are you seeing this workout just give really, really great results quickly?

I mean, you absolutely have to eat well. Okay. And, you know, even if you're not, it's still going to give you the strength. It's still going to start to move, get rid of the inflammation. It's going to, you know, accentuate your curves. But if you want to lose weight and really tighten up and bring out some crazy definition, you've got to get on a diet and you got to hit the workout consistently. So how do you prepare these Victoria's Secret models for the show?

Like give us all the tips. I want all the juice, like everything. Well, step one with them is they got to have strength. They got to have a strong, they have to have perfect posture. They have to have a strong butt and they have to have very strong hips. And without that, without establishing that foundation, you're never going to get into the best shape of your life. And that's what we're going after here. You know, we're creating healthy bodies, but we're also, you know, getting that unrealized potential and taking it as far, you know, as far as you can.

And, you know, step one is you have to have balanced muscles. You can't be overdeveloped anywhere or unbalanced. You have to have all the joints working perfectly. And you've got to have the strength in your glutes. You've got to have the strength in your hips. Because once you fix that, everything else follows. And now you're set up for just amazing success. you know, leading up to the show, that's all I'm doing. I'm establishing that strength.

I'm establishing balance muscles and then getting closer to the show. Now we're starting do more toning exercises. But you always got to hit the functional workouts first, the stepping patterns. I do, you know, most of what I do was on two feet, all different movements that really just mimic what we're doing in real life every day. Whether you're just playing tennis or you're picking up your kids out of a crib or, you know, walking in heels. I'm trying to create an authentic environment so that when you leave the gym, those muscles are still working throughout the day. That's so interesting. You're almost retraining us to flex our ass, not our glutes, or not our quads. Exactly. I love it. So let's go in a little bit of a different direction

and kind of get specific here. What are some of the biggest mistakes you see women and men making in the gym? Like if you could, if you could, if you could dial it in and say, okay, Like to give somebody some real value out there that's in that, you know, they're working out consistently. They think they're in good shape. Maybe they're, they are in good shape. But they're doing something that in the long run is going to hurt them, whether it's going to not elongate their muscles or it's going to ruin their hips or their legs or whatever. What do you see as a common mistake? I think the biggest mistake is, you know, the majority of us live our day sitting down or, you know, sitting, whether it's on a couch, a car or an office.

So this position we're in right here. This is just, this is flexion. you have flexion of your hips, your kind of your posture's down. And you live your whole, you spend your whole day in this position. And then when you go to the gym, what are you doing? You're doing crunches and deadlifts and squats. So all you're doing is you're still working out in that same position you've been all day. So that's what, you know, no wonder everyone's posture is bad. Everyone's hips are tight. So you have to reverse what you've been doing all day. So I primarily work out in extension through the spine, through the hips, and constantly

elongating because we're, you know, we're hunched over all day. Now we're looking at our phones, so you need to open everybody up, get their, you know, open up the shoulders, open up the stomach and, you know, that's step one. And then after that, it's just working in the positions that we're probably stuck in all day. And you talked a little bit about high heels, and there's a lot of women listening. Can you give us some tips for someone that's a high heel lover. So yeah. So for the Victoria Secure Show going back to that, you know, they're walking in very high heels with 50 pound wings on their back. It's, it's how much those fucking wings wear? They're crazy. And, you know, it's basically you got a force coming down and you have a force

coming up and, you know, you have to strengthen the core. And when I say strength in the core, it's not doing sit-ups and push-ups. That doesn't translate into real life. You have to do it all standing up. So it's rotation, it's extension, flexion of the torso. Everything I do is mostly it's standing up and you have to strengthen the core in a position that's going to translate into real life that's going to translate onto the runway because going back to what I said before if you're just trying to get abs by doing crunches and planks you're just staying stuck in that position now I'm wondering what the hell those wings are made of right I know that's like complete side tangent but Jesus Christ those things are heavy yeah and and going back to that too I use a slam board like religiously and the

slampboard all it does is it lifts up to heel maybe four or five inches so um there are in that heel up position and I'm training them to be strong in the position that they would be in their heels. Is this, so what happens? And Lauren, maybe you can answer me this. You know, let's see those videos online and it's the girls and they're walking on the run when they start wobbling in their heels and they like fall off the runway or they fall under a pool. Oh yeah. We were just talking about this earlier. Is that just like a lack of coordination? Is that the shoe or is that a lack of strength? It's a lack of strength. Wow. I mean, that's, that's extremely hard to come back from. But that is a length of strength, you know, through the

ankle and through the calf and through the knee all the way up to the hip if you can establish a very you know and what this workout does is I'm trying to get all the muscles fired up strengthen up you got 600 muscles running through your body how can you make them all work and it's a lot of balance and stability and it goes back to that same thing you see that wobble well you want to have the strength through your ankle and your calf to pull that back stabilize it and where is it start it's going to start in the butt the more you have that thing fired up the more stable you're going to be and it's interesting There was a girl who fell in the Victoria's Secret Show this year. And what I went back to in the studio was, you know, I watched her falling in slow-mo,

figured out exactly what happened, and then I recreated it through exercise. So when the girls came back to the gym, just, I mean, right now they're all at Fashion Week. So, you know, she took a step forward. She didn't have the strength in her butt, and she slid forward and she fell. And you just break it down in slow motion. So how can I prevent my clients from ever getting to that position where they step in that high heel, slide forward. How do I create the strength to pull them back from that motion? And it all comes from your butt in your hips, or that's where it starts. It's all, the more, I'm telling you,

the more strength you have in your butt, the more stable you're going to be. And you look amazing. Okay, so say someone's at home right now and they can't go to New York and work out with you. What can they do at home with their butt to just like lift it and make that smile that we all want? Throw that 50 pound backpack on. Yeah, no, no. So, I don't know. So, I mean, I have, walking down the neighborhood. So the exact workouts that I was doing with my clients in Shanghai, it's on my streaming program. And I have it labeled like runway ready. You know, everything's on there. You know, I was training Blanca for seven months leading up to the show. You know, that whole- Blanca is a Victoria's secret model. Blanca Padilla, yeah. And she looked incredible. And she, I mean, she went through a

transformation over that course of that seven months, which, you know, got her the casting. You know, we got ready for that. And then she got the show. And it was, it was something that wasn't on their radar and she is, I mean, she's killing it. And, you know, it all started seven months ago, getting her ready, building the foundation, giving her that confidence to walk, and, you know, building the glutes, contouring out the thighs and, you know, keeping her healthy throughout the whole time. And, you know, a lot of people ask about like Victoria's Secret diets and, you know, what crazy things are they doing? But, you know, we weren't doing anything crazy. We had a very sustainable plan. I mean, the night before she had fish, rice, juice, some spinach. We didn't

do anything dramatic. And I know we were talking about this earlier. You know, out there, there's so much, there's so many crazy diets. There's trainers that have you doing these insane workouts and quick fixes. And at the end of the day, they really don't work. They just make you really unhealthy. So with P.Volve, I really wanted to get everyone to that best shape possible. But let's do it in a very healthy, sustainable way. And there is a way to do it. There's a way to, you know, lose weight without starving yourself. You don't have to cut carbs.

You don't have to, you know, go run 10 miles and do crazy cardio. There's a more healthy way to get in the shape. So what was a butt workout that she was doing? Is there anything they can do at home, like to lift the butt? You're doing one with me, I think, where I was kicking my leg to the side. Yeah. So, no, I have some really good exercises that are super simple that can get your butt lifted. I mean in no time and it's not a squat, it's not a lunge.

I do steps. So it's a step, you know, we did it too. You step straight back, heel up, engage the butt, pull it back in. And people need to understand that your glutes are so complex. They're such big muscles. It takes a lot of different exercises to make that whole thing work. Like you can't just do a squat and a deadlift and a lunge straight, you know, forward and back. You need to hit all different angles, different foot positions, different pieces of equipment.

It's really endless and in a single workout I'll hit like 60, 70 different butt workouts, all working your glutes. And that's how you get the perfect shape. You know, you're working the top, you're working the bottom, the outside, the inside, the inside bottom. And that's why, you know, GQ called me the ass master. I was going to ask you about that. Yeah, they came to my class and they were like, holy shit.

Everyone in this class is ass is insane. I'm going to work out with you every time I'm in New York because I want to get like tips from the ass master. Yeah. You know, come to my class. You look at the girls that work out. I mean, they look unbelievable. If you watch the girls in the Victoria Secret Show that worked out, I mean, they look unreal.

And, you know, I've done it without doing any squats, any lunges, or deadlifts. And it's all through what I was talking about earlier, this physical therapy. And, you know, the same strategies they do to rehab someone from a hip surgery or, you know, a torn ACL. I took the same strategies and turned it into exercise. exercise and it is that's why the workout is so different that's how I've set myself apart and you know it started out as a way to keep people really healthy and the results have just been unbelievable and that's kind of how you know it's progressed and we've been perfecting it now I have it on the streaming so everyone can do it

ass master yeah that's amazing it's hilarious to call me no I never called you that so is they also describe you as pre-hab what what is that term so just so pre-house have that's what I've studied. It's all injury prevention. So there's a lot of people with torn ACLs, you know, slip discs, you know, twisted ankles, broken ankles, and all of that is preventable. And they do it a lot in sports training and a lot of people that I went to school with. Like sports medicine type training? Yeah, they work with like athletes in soccer and football and tennis. But basically when you get an injury, especially in ACL tears, a great example. It comes comes from a restriction in usually the foot and they don't have that motion in their knee

to internally rotate and they always tear it every time. So what I would do is I will work in that threshold, get the body conditioned for the motion that, you know, tears the ACL and you're strong. So we're working in different ranges of motion, different thresholds and, you know, going through the joints to make sure you have all that mobility, all that motion. So when you get, you're playing a sport and you get into that motion where the ACL is going to tear it, you've already worked out in that. position. Does that make sense? It makes sense. So say where say there's somebody, okay, we've been

talking a lot about like athletes. And I think, you know, all of us, I don't want to say, well, you're an expert, but I don't say like we're experts, but we're in, we're in decent physical shape. For somebody that's starting out and they're thinking about getting in the gym, where would you recommend that they start? Or maybe not if they're starting out, but somebody that's been, you know, getting serious about working out. They're dipping their toe in. No, they're not just dipping their toe in, but they're like, you know, they're, they're serious about it now. Like they've made the commitment of life that they want to get in shape. What would the first piece of advice be? I always say you got to start slow, start with

sustainable, you know, don't start off by doing a bunch of crazy shit. You got to build a solid foundation. And the more work you can put into building that foundation, the easier it is it's going to be to get in the shape, to stay in shape, and to stay healthy throughout the whole journey. And one thing I always say, and everyone wants to start doing cardio and running, I always say you have to get in shape to run. You don't run to get in the shape. I also feel like running and people might get mad at me for saying this for me. I feel like it makes everything sag. And I don't want my tits on the ground and I don't want my face on the ground.

Like I'm trying to lift everything up. So I don't, for me, like I don't like that constant repetitive motion running, running, running. Like that's just something I just feel is very aging and I'm all about anti-aging. Yeah. So I would rather walk. Yeah. Let's keep those tits up. So I don't do any running with my clients.

It's like the one thing I cut out. immediately. And walking's way better. You know, running is so propelled by momentum and cortisol, and you're jacking up that cortisol. You're pushing into your knees, your thighs, you're pounding on your ankles. So, you know, I get rid of it completely. My partner, Weston, actually our partner, Weston, is also one of my best friends. Every time, it's funny, he goes in and out of wanting to get in shape. And every time he once again in shape, he just runs on the treadmill. But it's like, you know, he gets to the point where you can run and run and run and run. And he's not seeing the results. I'm like, man, you're just kind of like staying in one motion for ever.

So it's interesting. My workout, I don't do more than eight reps. I don't repeat exercises. So it's a continuous hour of movement and motion. I am so against repetitive working out because that's what leads to imbalance in the muscles. That's what leads to bulking overdevelopment in your thighs like so many people have. So I'm constantly changing. And there's so many ways to work your body. I do eight reps and I move on. Eight reps move on. You say move on like your next exercise. Next exercise. You're not taking long breaks. There's no sense.

It really was a really different kind of workout. I mean, I was really impressed by it. It's something that I've never done, but it makes so much sense when you break it down. I want to talk to you a little bit about, you know, there's so many fad diets out there. There's women that are taking, you know, pills to lose weight. I want to talk about how that spikes women's cortisol and fucks up their metabolism. I mean, I think that's something that a lot of girls are trying to just do a quick fix. what are your recommendations there?

Well, I hate the quick fix. The quick fix is just going to bring you way back down. The way I always explain it to people is, you know, think of your body as a pendulum, and that pendulum swinging from left to right. And the farther you bring it one direction, nothing is going to come swinging back the other, and you're going to get it way worse. Like a lot of girls love to take water pills, and, yeah, you're going to be ripped up for 24 hours, but then your body is going to retain even more water and you're going to look worse.

So what I try to explain to people is you want to do it sustainably and you want to slowly move that pendulum, you want to control the swing and you want to move it into the direction that you want to be. That way you're not getting these drastic changes. I just see so many different people taking, you know, pills or I've even seen ADHD medication. People just try to, you know, I just think it fucks up your metabolism so bad. You're really asking for trouble when you start messing with that. You know, you got to create a lifestyle that's healthy. And, you know, you'll never reach your peak by using, you know, artificial drugs.

You're just selling yourself short and then you're going to bounce back and look worse. So, you know, when it comes to diet, you know, don't jump into some crazy diet. You're just setting yourself up for failure. So what I always do with my clients, I say, you know, write out a full diet, everything you eat, the exact time you eat it. and let me get a sense of what your schedule is and what you're eating. And I don't, if they have a list of 10 things that are shit on there, I don't cross them all out. I might cross one or two out and, you know, add this, add some vegetables. And then next week, I cross two more things out.

So it's slowly weaning them off all the garbage they're eating, which a lot of them don't even realize it's bad for you. And then I'm slowly implementing more vegetables because you've got to kind of change the way your brain responds to these things. You have to change your taste butts. and you know by doing it that way slow and sustainable after six you know four or five six months you're not even thinking about it anymore you want to eat healthy and when you put that garbage into your body it just tastes bad you know i just lord gets mad at me saying because and this is obnoxious i admit it is obnoxious but i just had my first sip of alcohol on saturday for this whole year i haven't had any alcohol which is incredible it's pretty crazy for me

volume 88 because he's told this story like five million times i wanted to say it because it's not that I did it more for focus, not for her fitness. But it was interesting. The first month was difficult. And then I got to the point where my body was like, it did not want it. It was like, I was not craving. You retrained your taste buds. Repelling it.

And I think, you know, when people think, oh, my God, I got to do this diet or I got to cut this out of my life, it's going to be so difficult. It was almost like my body, once it got rid of the alcohol, like, don't put that back in here. It knows. Like, it doesn't, it didn't want it. Now I'm off the wagon again. I'm fucked. Well, it's that 30 days to create a new habit. But you know, that shit never goes at it.

What is something that you see? You said that there's a lot of people that will list things that they think are healthy, but you're just like, no, that's not healthy. What's something that you keep seeing people? I mean, I think people will have smoothies a lot with a ton of different stuff in it and not realize that it's really too much. I completely agree with that. The number one thing that I see that everyone eats is nuts and nut butters.

I mean, you want to gain weight. That's, yeah, start eating nuts. I mean, it's good for you. It's healthy fats. you know who's eating four almonds nobody i'm eating like the whole jar of almond butter 100% you know tanya zucker brought a F factor said that too she said we're in this day where everyone's like healthy fat healthy fat healthy fat but it's almost too much healthy fat exactly and um you know cutting carbs i think is one of the worst things your body needs carbs uh all my clients eat carbs we just keep

it clean we don't put butter on it you know we'll have a sweet potato but we'll put a little bit of olive oil or turmeric on it you know quinoa's great but But we're, you know, my favorite recipe is got turmeric quinoa. My wife makes it for me, like, every night. That sounds good. It's amazing. What the fuck, man? I don't get any turmeric quinoa.

You get other things. And you met your wife when you guys were working out. Yeah, so, you know, she worked out with me for seven months and just didn't leave me alone. I just didn't pay any attention to her. And then finally one day I saw her, you know, not in the studio. And I was like, oh, wow. And we've been together ever since.

And, you know, we got married here. Yeah. Just this one, you know. But she's, you know, she's, you know, she's, you know, she's, you know, she's, you know, She's in phenomenal shape. She's die-hard about the program and, you know, she transformed her body and she got into such amazing shape. And when I met her, she was training with another VS trainer doing like intense boxing workouts.

She had, she had scoliosis. And when she finally made her way to me, she like couldn't move. Her back was completely fucked. And she couldn't sleep at night. She had serious back pain because she was training like a fighter. This little girl was training like, you know. doing these crazy workouts, training like a fighter. And we know when I met her, she wasn't, she was, I mean, I wish doesn't mind me saying this, but she wasn't even eating that much.

She was trying to lose weight by, you know, drinking green tea all day. Right. And I had to completely retrain her. I had to fix her back, get her, you know, scoliosis alleviated, which is something I spent a lot of time studying when I was in school. And, you know, getting the inflammation out of her body, get her moving again, get her mobile, and then get her on like a very healthy, sustainable diet and she's lost, you know, she's gotten, she's transformed in about two, three years, but her diet every night is, you know, eating vegetables, eating, she's a lot of carbs, but, you know, we burn it off every day and it's super clean. And that's really the idea with it all. You know, keeping it clean, keeping it, not overburdening yourself. I love it. What's something that

the audience can buy? Like, is there anything that they could buy that would help with workout like is there like a ball they could use or something to help with their posture and their hips yeah so you know on my website I actually invented a ball that is for the inner thighs I used it today it's so gnarly it is it is unbelievable and I mean it transforms your midsection so it works everything from the belly button to the mid thigh and the way this came about was you know going back years just having the same conversation over you know women coming to me hey I want to get in the shape my big

problems my inner thigh nothing works I've been to every workout method I've tried every product that is true and it's hard it is it is extremely hard and I mean I was like on a die-hard mission to like how do I tone this muscle there's got to be a way it's not there's there's muscle there how do I make it work and you know I figured that out through you know using physical therapy tactics but also I created this ball that sits at the very top of your thighs it pushes right against the muscle that we're everyone's having a hard time with and it activates it and you go through the workout and you feel that muscle working. And after you take the ball off, that muscle is still active. So that's how you start to train it.

You start to get it active. You start conditioning it and you can really tone your inner thighs. A secondary thing that came with this ball was it really works your butt. And this is one way I became, you know, the ass master. So what a great thing to be known for, the ass master. That's like every guy's dream. Yeah. And you, well, I take it very seriously. And it, I, I've taken a very scientific approach to working your butt and the biggest game changer that I've seen and if you want to change the way someone's butt appears and really lift it up is you have to get the muscles that are at the very bottom inside of the glutes.

It is so it's almost impossible to get to it and it runs right into the inner thigh and what the ball does, the P-ball as I call it, it activates that muscle. It puts the pressure right on it, works the inner thigh, works the inner glute and once you fire that muscle up, everything pushes you. up. The inner thighs tighten up. The butt lifts and it's, it's a game changer. And it's my client's favorite piece of equipment. It's their favorite workout. And I've been testing it like crazy. I really liked it. I did it today. I was squeezing that ball as hard as I could to get those inner thighs going. Good. Great. Hey, guys can use it too. I could throw it on you after this.

How do you do that with your balls? It is very uncomfortable. Yeah. I just have to have to So I know you have a link for the listeners and we're going to get to, but if you could leave one final message, the last message for the show to give to the listeners, just a takeaway. What would be the main takeaway that you want to leave them with? Yeah. For all the women out there who are trying to really just get in the shape and understand what's happening with their body, you know, think differently about the exercises you're doing. You know, why are you doing it?

What is the cost, you know, and what's the benefit? And, you know, if you don't know why you're doing a bunch of exercises and your trainer can't explain that to you, then get out and figure something out. And you have to, you know, everything you have to do is slow down, understand your body, understand how this machine works. It's really a complex machine. And the more you learn about it and the more you can tune in to your own body, the better shape that you're going to get into.

And I have a whole program online to help you do that. And it doesn't matter what you're into. If you still like, you know, love doing cardio or you love playing. sports, it's awesome. This will enhance whatever it is you do and it will correct those balances, you know, create mobility in your joints and the healthier you can be, the better shape you're going to get into. I hope all of you guys are flexing your ass through this entire interview and you're taking it out of the hips. Where can everyone find you, pimp yourself out? So I'm on pvov.com and my handle on Instagram is peeve off. And I know you have a unique code for

our listeners, yo. It's a 30-day free trial and it's a mom. My My.pevolve.com slash BIP access. Is that correct? That's correct, yeah. Okay. So you can work out with me. You could do those VS workouts. You can get the ball on Amazon and you can really, you know, fire this up and start changing

your body. Summer is about, what, four or five months away? You got to start planning your summer body in the winter. You have to, 100%. So important. I have a trip in September and I was like, I better get on it now because. Yeah, you need to get that ball. Okay.

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