The Bossticks - #127: Dr. Dennis Gross Pt. 2 - Anti-Aging Techniques, Thinning Skin, Acne & Acne Causes, Skincare Myths, Filler & Fats, & Baby Botox

Episode Date: July 31, 2018

On this episode we are joined by one of our favorites, Dr. Dennis Gross. This is Dr. Dennis's second appearance on the show (1st appearance Ep. 91). This episode goes into great detail around the topic of skin and skincare. We discuss anti-aging techniques, thinning skin, baby botox, acne, and what causes acne, myths surrounding skincare, & what to be cautious of when doing procedures with filler and fats. We Also finally convinced Michael to do some baby botox and recorded the whole process in this interview, so stay tuned.  To connect with Dr. Dennis Gross click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) Be sure to take advantage of the www.drdennisgross.com offer by visiting his site and using offer code: SKINNY10 WOO FOR PLAY is the all natural and organic coconut love oil that is changing the way we have sex. With only 4 all natural ingredients WOO is the perfect personal lubricant to spice up your sex life.  All Him & Her Listeners will receive 20% off your entire order plus free shipping when when visiting www.wooforplay.com & using promo code HIMANDHER at checkout. This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis. They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices.  Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinny to receive 25% off your first order + free shipping and a 30 day trial. This episode is brought to you by RITUAL Forget everything you thought you knew about vitamins. Ritual is the brand that's reinventing the experience with 9 essential nutrients women lack the most. If you're ready to invest in your health, do what I did and go to www.ritual.com/skinny  Your future self will thank you for taking Ritual: Consider it your 'Lifelong-Health-401k'. Why put anything but clean ingredients (backed by real science) in your body?     

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Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major real Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. People are photographing themselves and seeing images of themselves more than ever before. My patients are coming in and they're seeing themselves on posts from other people's Facebook page or Instagrams. Social media is just another way to make yourself more visible and the inspection that's going on with people's skin is increased. So you're seeing your skin with more lines and wrinkles. Get that wrong angle. Your dark circles look worse.

your upper lip wrinkles, of course. Your hyperpigmentation mustache is shining out. Correct. All that stuff. So when you see yourself more often, so now everyone comes in and they're just, they want to know, what am I going to do? Why am I getting this? How do I fix it?

And they also want a reality check. They want to know, is this real, you know, or is it just bad lighting? That's a huge question. And the bottom line is bad lighting, unfortunately, just shows the flaws that you otherwise won't see. It's not like it's not there. No, but have you ever done this before? Recorded while doing this?

Oh, no, no. I've been recorded by like patients' friends for their video. But you've never actually been. No, no, not on like a podcast. I'm doing this. No. After today's episode, Lorne, nothing will ever be the same. That's true. Thank God. So that clip was from our guest of the show today. One of our favorites with his second appearance on the skinny confidential, him and her show, Dr. Dennis Gross.

On this episode, we discuss preventative beauty, anti-aging techniques, thinning skin, baby Botox acne, what causes acne, miss surrounding skin care, and what to be cautious of when you're doing procedures with fillers and fats. I also, and Dr. Dennis, together, convinced Michael to do some baby Botox. So don't mean to brag. We recorded the whole thing for you guys, so you were right in the room with us, really. And that's why nothing will ever be the same. For those of you who are new to the show, I am Michael Bostic. I'm an entrepreneur and businessman. I have been involved in business in the digital space, direct-to-consumer product space, and manufacturing space for the last 10 years.

Most recently, the co-founder and CEO of Dear Media, which is a female-focused podcast network. And I'm Lauren Everett's wife. I'm the creator of the Skinny Confidential. And I'm excited for this episode, Michael. Finally, got some Botox. This is true. I'm looking beautiful. Is that a way to describing?

Handsome. Great. Radiant. Glowing. I actually have been said I'm glowing. I'm smooth. Yeah. I see.

I don't know. the terms, but I like how you can't frown. Looking a lot better. No, I cannot frown. Okay, guys, so I want to remind everybody that there were two episodes last week, episode number 125 called Boob Job Recovery with Lori Harder and number 126 with Cumulie, the CEO of Activate, which was formerly blog-loving. So be sure to check both of those out and remember that every other Thursday, we have a full-length episode bringing this show to six per month. Just want to remind everybody out so that everybody knows and doesn't miss any episodes. All right, guys, let's talk about something exciting. As many of you know, Thrive Market is a partner of the show, and we have just taken

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We had Dr. Dennis on on episode 91. Is that right, Michael? Yep, episode 91 back in December. So it's been almost seven months. Okay. And we wanted to go even deeper with him on another episode. I feel like skincare is such an important part of this podcast and the brand that having him come on again and even get more specific was important. He's obviously huge on sunscreen, which, you know, I'm huge on sunscreen. I mean, I'm basically naming our firstborn Dr. Dennis Grossbostic.

Michael's developed a skincare routine that is full of Dr. Dennis products. Do you want to share your 10-step routine with everyone? It is. We share them in the episodes so people can listen so I don't get redundant. Are you going to come on my YouTube channel eventually? Maybe you're going to have to pay my fee and you have to talk to my manager. I don't know if you can afford me. All right. Okay. My manager is Boone P.

Okay. And he's a chihuahua. He's just turned five today. Side note. Shout out to Boone P. Yeah. It's his birthday. Chinks, buy me a Coke.

But yeah, so we wanted to have Dr. Dennis back to get even more detail into different subjects. And also, I've been listening to Howard Stern lately. I've listened to him on and offer forever. And I always like how he does segments and bits and his show. And so I had this bright idea that maybe we would go on. And I would, you know, people have been beating me up for so long to get baby Botox. And I've heard from so many different skin experts. I'm like, okay, now is the time. My forehead is literally falling down to my knees. And so, lo and behold, we did it. We filmed the whole process. We recorded it. And it's in this episode.

So I'm going to put the footage up on my Instagram story of him getting it. And I want to say that I'm really proud of Michael for taking one for the team here. I feel like a lot of men would shy away from getting Botox because they think it's girly. And I think it's pretty ballsy. You have some big balls to get Botox on this podcast. You would know, Lauren, you would know. Yeah. No, so, yeah, I know, I'm happy to be the guinea pig.

And also, you know, side note, Dr. Dennis is just an awesome person. I love them. Processed. Dr. D, if you're listening, you're a solid person. Love hanging with you. Wouldn't trust anyone else with my saggy forehead. Thanks for cleaning it up and making it look good. With that, let's introduce a Dr. Dennis.

Dr. Dennis gross is a. board certified dermatologist and a dermologic surgeon. He's the founder of Dr. Dennis Gross Dermatology, a specialized dermatology practice on Fifth Avenue across from Central Park in Manhattan, NBD. He is nationally recognized and sought after for his experience in skin cancer research and keeping skin healthy, natural looking and radiant by utilizing state-of-the-art cosmetic treatments and technology. His philosophy is my favorite. It's to prevent, correct, and protect patient's skin by creating a personalized treatment plan specifically for each individual patient's needs and desires. And Dr. Dennis is also the founder of the award-winning skincare line and one of my favorites,

Dr. Dennis Gross Skin Care. I'm personally the biggest Dr. Dennis fan, like I said. I get Getty even talking about him. I use his products all the time, so does Michael. I'm obsessed with his peel pads. Anyway, meet my celebrity crush, my spirit animal. The only guy I'd leave Michael for, I mean, can you imagine our dinner conversations about SPF, Dr. Dennis Gross. All right, let's talk about vitamins for a hot second. The thing for me is that

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post and said that they absolutely loved ritual and they were having amazing results. Anyways, I'm doing it for the long term. It's next to my toothbrush, next to my toothpaste, so I grab it first thing in the morning. I'll keep you guys updated along the way. So what you could expect is ritual is subscription based. It's $30 a month and delivered straight to your door. We want to get as much as we can deliver to our door, okay? So if you're ready to invest in your health, do what I did and go to ritual.com slash skinny. Consider it your lifelong health 401K. Why put anything but clean ingredients backed by real science in your body? Go to ritual.com slash skinny and get your vitamins to put by your toothbrush.

This is the skinny confidential, him and her. And, you know, everyone's on it taking a shot for Instagram or Facebook and they're just seeing themselves in different lighting. Yes, you're so right. And that is flipping people out. It fucks with you. Totally. And I think that there's, and this is really an emotional thing. You know, people are, they're scared, they're confused, they don't want to look old.

And it just sets them off. It's a lot of anxiety. We got to talk about this. You guys on the podcast. It's recording. Oh. I already just jumped it right in. There we go.

So, yeah, the thinning skin is crazy, important. Okay. Well, just really quick. You should leave that clip, I think. I'm going to leave it all in. I think we just riff. Leave it all in. Reintroduce yourself.

Hi. Okay. Dennis Gross, dermatologist in New York City. Born and Bread, did my research and my skin cancer research and dermatology training at NYU Medical Center. I'm here on Fifth Avenue and 71st in Manhattan. And I love to teach. I love to see people. And I think that podcasts like these are just the way to go.

because learning can really help you look younger. And your products are insane. Thank you. Guys, I've been using his products all the time. The peel pads, my best friend. Michael is now a huge fan. I've been using your products ever since we did the interview. And the reason I was on my phone right now,

I'm looking back. We did that on December 5th, 2017. So that's too long ago. I think he wants you to tell him that he's glowing. Dr. Dennis, please tell me I'm glowing. I'm going to tell you honest truth. Okay. This is no bull.

The minute you walk, walked in the room, right? I saw you know what? I saw a difference. I totally see a difference. I mean, good. It looked like you're just relaxed, younger, smoother. Maybe you are more relaxed, but you told me you're also a little bit stressed. His what your wife told me. Well, that's a pretty normal occasion for me. Right. But you know, no, I was saying I, every day I used the, it's the collagen with the brightening and firm serum. Yeah, you stole mine. And then I use the eye cream, the bright because last time we spoke, you said I need vitamin C. So I've been doing that. And I feel like just those things alone are not even. I'm having a real moment with the alpha beta cream. Is that a

moisturizer? Yeah, it is. That's the one I really like right now. Right. Brand new concept. The key thing there is, you know, listen, there's a lot of new research. And even though you think everything is the same, it's not because we're learning new things every day. That's what I do. I research and create skincare products. What's key to people to know about, that has alpha and beta hydroxy acids in it. And people care of the word acid and they freak out a little bit and they're worried. It's going to dry them out, make them flaky. The skin is naturally acidic. It has a pH of 5.5. If you give your skin the right environment by putting a little acids into your cleanser, into your moisturizer your skin, right? That's what your skin wants. It's like a nutrient.

It's how it sets up to look its best. It regenerates best, heals itself, builds more collagen, pores look better. So that's the concept to that product. It's a breakthrough there with just a little acid every day is exfoliation and collagen building. I hope you're still taking notes. I was listening to you guys talk earlier and you said, if you have a little bit more oily skin, you should not use a moisturizer. So I'm wondering if I should.

No, no. No, you said that wrong. You should. Yeah, that's a myth. That's a myth. One of the key, okay. Right, because people, you know, well, first of all, look, talk about balance.

What is balance? Balance is when your skin is happy. Like, when you do a workout, the ideal thing you know is going to happen is you feel tired, you really exhausted your body, and then you can't wait to sit down and lie down, and the next day you wake up and you feel good and you're ready to go out again.

That's because that workout was balanced. If you overdo it and you feel sore, you can't stand up straight, you over did it, you're out of balance, you're not going to work out that day, or the next day you're just going to feel like you can't and it's not going to work as well. The skin's the same way, right? You want to just feed it and treat it so that stays in balance.

So, moisturizing is a really important thing. And so people with oily skin still need their skin in balance. But you want to keep your skin hydrated with oil-free moisturizer, right? So adding oil to oily skin, that's not good. But the myth is you should still moisturize. That's the key thing. You were talking a little bit about social media when Michael is setting everything up. Can you talk a little bit about how you've seen a shift with your patients with social media?

Yeah. People are photographing themselves and seeing images of themselves. more than ever before, right? When I grew up, right, the only time you saw yourself was when you looked in the mirror or you passed a mirror, you saw yourself in a reflection of some store. Now, my patients are coming in and they're seeing themselves on posts from other people's Facebook page or Instagrams and people are doing selfies. They're in different, they're out at night. They're taking shots in the dark or taking shots with flash or they're taking shots outside. Social media is just another way to make yourself more visible. And so the inspecting

that's going on with people's skin is increased. So you're seeing your skin with more lines and wrinkles. Get that wrong angle. Your dark circles look worse. Your upper lip wrinkles look worse. Your hyperpigmentation mustache is shining out. Correct. All that stuff. So when you see yourself more often and you really can like this with your pinch the pinch the screen and enlarge it. You're zooming in. Zoom it in is like a built-in like magnifying mirror. We're going down a tunnel. Yeah. Exactly. It's a tunnel. When you start So now everyone comes in and they're just, they want to know, what am I going to do? Why am I getting this? How do I fix it? And the question and they also want a reality check. They want to know, am I, is this real? You know, or is it just bad lighting? That's a huge question. And the bottom line is, bad lighting unfortunately just shows the flaws that you otherwise won't see. It's not like it's not there. Right. So, but the, so people younger and younger are getting involved in taking care of their skin. And that is a good thing. This generation now, I think, out there can look young forever because the technology,

the concepts that we know, you need to exercise when you're younger in terms of starting devices or starting ingredients or doing little treatments or doing baby Botox, all that stuff, all good. So preventative beauty is key. Correct. And we don't want to be reactive. Right. So what do you say to the generation that's maybe 50 or 60 that wasn't preventative like us? Yeah.

Well, those guys do like heavier lifting stuff. You know, they do deep wrinkle, deep laser. They do deeper peels. And they know, they know. They were like, they fucked up. Yeah, sun bunnies, you know. They burnt the copper tone generation where they wore SPF2 and got super brown. SPF2.

Yeah. I would never. It's condom. And they spray the oil all over them, you know. Yeah. So what are going to do? You know, but these guys, your people, listen to this right now. They have the power to know like, hey, you know what?

Maybe your skin's thinning out. You don't know it. You've got to get on it because that is the root of all evil. Thinning skin, what's the best tip? Well, first thing is to catch it early and to know it's happening. That's number one. So when you see a line or a wrinkle in a bad photo, well, what you want to do is you want to listen to that and take action, right?

So the question is like, are you, are you too young to start when you're 22, 23? Hell no. That is in fact the time to do it. It's like saying, when's a good time to start eating right? You know, as soon as possible yesterday. I'm going to bring my newborn to you. Okay. And don't mean to brag, but I got Botox at 21 and everyone made fun of me.

And so I think my lucky start. I wish I got it at 18. You know, it's interesting because I mean, I think it's just having conversations like this and hearing them because before we spoke a lot and now it's easier for me to do these things because I've had this information, but I just never looked. I was like, okay, like, this is normal. There's nothing to do about it. It's aging. Right. Just whatever. And now, now I'm kind of a freak about it and I have to do something. But also, as a man, I feel good doing it. Like, I like when I have stuff on my face, it's part of like, you know, I wake up and wakes me out more.

Yeah. Right. How can a, how can a wife or a girlfriend help educate their husband or boyfriend? Yeah. First, partner with them and make them feel like you're doing it together and it's okay. Women grew up with reading beauty magazines and Vogue magazine or Lour magazine. You name it. You know, they were all out there. Men didn't read that. Okay. So they, women, since they were, and mothers were wearing makeup and mothers were using their

Pons Coal cream and that they were, you know, teaching their daughters. But you don't really hear mothers teaching their sons or fathers teaching their sons. So women. I never was told once. Right. Well, so, but your wife is going to do that. And that's what, but that's what happens. Partners teach the other.

So it's just helping them feel like it's okay, that looking good is the right idea. You feel better when you do. And you're just teaching them to break that mold. I like a hair of manipulation too. So standing in front of the mirror and saying, oh, this vitamin C serum feels so good. My skin has never been tighter and then looking over at Michael. I don't think you were that subtle about it. I think you looked over and said, whoa, you look like shit.

You need to do something about this. Don't pretend you were subtle. No, but I think also she introduced me one or two things to start. It wasn't like five things. I think people overwhelm other people that don't know. If you gave me every single one of these products and said, this is how you start. I would, now I'm like, okay, I could use that and that. I didn't start you off on a Korean 10 step.

No. Right. And that's a, and I got to tell you, I formulate your products that way. First of all, I formulate for men. I know men don't want something too complicated. They also don't want to feel any residue. You know, women don't mind having, like, heavier moisturizers on. They know what makeup feels like.

Men don't like that stuff. So the stuff you like, no, no, as light, right? And by the way, women like that because now they can layer makeup over that, right? And that's a key thing in formulating products is you got to make everything work in a system so that you can just add one. The way you layer is you add the lightest thing first, right? So something that's a gel or a liquid based. then you put on a light lotion, then you put on a heavier cream, then you put on your makeup.

When is your oil in this? Because I'm having a fight with my sister about this. Where does the oil go in there if you put oil on your skin? Last. She's right. I'll tell you why. Here's why. It's simple. If you put it on first, it's going to block anything lighter getting through it. Oh, what, Mimi? You're right. Makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. Right. So, Mimi's going to cut that clip and just play it over and over. Right. So that's why you have to use stuff. And when you do, you will see a huge difference. And I cannot emphasize enough how super important prompt treatment prevention and prompt intervention is.

When you start to see a line or a wrinkle, you know, when you start to see a little bit of looseness in skin, that's all about collagen, right? It's all about how your skin has lost those fibers that makes the skin firm, that gives it thickness. And, you know, that starts to happen in your early 20s. You may not see it, but it's actually inside your body. your skin and then boom one day my motto is every wrinkle has a birthday so oh my god that's my new and that's when so people come in because they you know they want to get it fixed and that really is what and so that collagen story is what's really going on when you start to get thinning skin okay and so thinning skin is what i'm my whole new campaign is teaching about that so let's get really

niche with you right now. I have a secret Facebook group and it's a bunch of women. There's 35,000 women in there and I'm constantly watching and reading and observing about, you know, just issues that they have with their skin and acne is a big one. Right. You said it's happening more than ever. I want to know why and then I want to know what you would do if someone came to see you with severe acne. Right. Okay. Why? That's exactly the right question because it's for real. There are more people with complexion problems than ever before. My practice is a representation of society. And maybe there's more stress, right?

Maybe there are more people coming off birth control pills because there's more hormonal acne. They got to know which type of acne talking about. There's hormonal acne. There's T-zone acne, adult acne. But I think the new player that's really causing this issue is something I call product acne. There are ingredients that are. in products that are known to cause acne.

What's an example? There are words that you mean, the oil is a big one, right? So people know, they should know that if they have acne or they're afraid of getting acne using oil-free product and they're just as good now. But there's ingredients that are like so complicated and technical. They're like mirror state. You'd never know that, right? So actually what I did, I just actually from my website on my blog, I created a video.

And so it's called the acne epidemic and how to tell what's causing your acne. I actually created a list of ingredients that are scientifically known, medically known to cause acne. And what I'm telling people to do is you just go to that list and you've got to look on your label. And if one of those ingredients is in the top 10 ingredients of your product, you can't use that product if you have acne. And if you're concerned, buy another one, right? And it's just got a little detective work. It takes two minutes to learn about it. There are a lot of ingredients to do this, and this is not just opinion, this is medical fact.

So the answer to your question is, there's probably two dozen ingredients that a person who is prone to acne should really know about and just be a smarter consumer. Yeah, because if you don't know, you could just be, you're doing all these other things while you're prolonging the problem. And I am convinced now people are buying more products, using more products, people are more concerned than ever to look good. And I think it's backfiring. You know, their products contain ingredients that are actually causing breakouts and acne. That's the big one. And makeup, too? Sometimes, absolutely.

So you've got to check your ingredients. It's not as hard as it seems, right? The list I'm talking about just puts them in alphabetical order, just look through them one by one and just check it off if it's there, pass and wonder about it. And I can tell you that when I talk about this acne epidemic on that video, I teach people in my practice to, like, read their label. and I can't, I'm 50% of the time, people come into my office, I want them to bring everything they're using. They put it on this counter and we look at the label, right? And we say, good, no good,

good, no good. And we go through the entire, just by switching up your products and having that education and learning, eliminating the culprit, the cause, it bakes a big difference. And I think that's what's going on. That's product acne. That's so interesting because you're right with social media. We're trying everything and anything. And if the bottle's cute, we wanted on our humanity. So that makes a lot of sense. So if someone's out there, they're listening and they're going to look through their products, is there anything else they can do? Is there foods they can eat? Is there like a way that they should maybe add a peel pad? Like what do you recommend? Right. So first of all, this is this is the key thing to know. It doesn't matter whether you're talking about hormonal acne,

you're talking about T-zone acne. The bottom line is a blocked pore that causes acne, right? And a pore is nothing more than like a little opening from deeper parts of the skin that release oil, right? If that gets blocked, or if another ingredient comes in and blocks it up for you, that's going to cause your breakout. So what do you do to make a pour unblocked or prevent it from blocking, things like exfoliation, alpha beta peel? That product itself and peels its two steps that's key to helping people is a great way to normalize oil chemistry.

That means that people who have breakouts. The problem is that their own oils are a little too heavy for their own good. So instead of flowing like water, it's a little heavy, a little thick like honey. So you've got to like normalize that. You can help the skin start to make a thinner type of oil. And this happens in people, by the way, who even don't have oily skin. Even dry skin people can have blockages. So you've got to start to normalize it.

So things to do, exfoliate. I love alpha and beta hydroxy ingredients in the cleansers, right? That new product you talked about. that's a great way to exfoliate. The other thing you want to start to do is you start to use ingredients that we know actually start to work on that pore to either prevent the oil from being made or from preventing that oil from getting stuck in that pore. So salisilc acid, great ingredient.

Retinal, great ingredient. And you want to then maybe need a prescription of some sort. But a lot of times you don't. If you just know what products not to use and what products, to use, check that list, and maybe start to use certain products that we know have ingredients that work, you can look so much better because the number one thing people don't know is that the number one treatment for acne is prevention of it in the first place. The pimple you see now, it actually started a week or two ago when it was invisible.

So using the right ingredients today will help prevent your acne later. Hmm. Okay. You want to solve it before it happens. Exactly. I'm going to throw you a curveball here, and this is another thing I've seen in the group. But me. Yeah.

Girls are getting acne on their butt. Michael, relax. I'm not part of the group, so. A lot of girls have acne on their butt. Yeah. So, like, should we whip out peel pads and start, like, peel padding our ass? Why not? Okay.

Number one, right? That's a great idea. Starting a new movement, once again. Yeah, she goes again. I can't help it. Trailblazers. Okay, but let me tell you, I see that in my practice. Okay.

So who are those ladies, right? Who are those guys? Spinning, huge issue, right? There's just, there's just, we're really getting deep here. I love this stuff. That's okay. I love to get deep. Okay, let's go for it.

I would have never thought that spinning, but here we go. Let's talk, okay, there's this thing. Just another reason I'm not going to start spinning. Exactly. There's this thing called mechanical acne. When you are sitting on your butt, right, you are actually blocking your pores right it can't release the the oil so they get backed up okay so when you sit on a hard seat that's a big issue add sweat to that right whenever there's more sweat there's

more oil trust me they're two different types of glands but they go together okay so but acne is from sitting sweating and blocking your pores at the same time so I think that you should be like I really recommend getting a natural sponge, putting on a really good cleanser on that sponge, and spend 30 seconds in the shower cleaning that area, right? Disinfecting it. It's a really good idea. And then if every, like I said, the cause of all forms of acne is a block pour even on your butt. So the same ingredients that work on your face, that work on your back, that work on your chest,

going to work on your butt. Michael, are you using a sponge? Yep. And I am not sitting for too long and I'll be sitting even less. I'm going to inspect your ass tonight. Oh, great. Can't wait. I can't get my magnifying glass out.

I'm sure you'll do a full detailed report. Okay, so acne, look at our products. Yeah. Don't, maybe don't spin. I'm not a big, I'm not the biggest spinner in the world. Yeah. And maybe prescription. Maybe prescription.

But first and foremost, like, just take care of the area and know what's why you're at risk for that. Okay. You know, you can do a lot of stuff. So that's, and. And the worst thing, for example, working out with a moisturizer on, lots of people put on a moisturizer before they go to sleep, right? They love that. You work out with that moisturizer still on your body, still on your face. Is it blocking? It's blocking. Exactly. Because now you're

trying to sweat and you're trying to make secrete oil and you still have that coat of moisturizer. I do that. I have to not do that. You got to not do that. So I got to wake up and wash my face Correct. With nothing on it? With nothing on it. Here's the problem, no, Dr. Dennis. What if I'm outside being good with my sunscreen on? Yeah.

What do I do? So when you're out, you're saying... If you're working out outside. If you're working out outside. Then you got to wear a sunscreen, try to get an oil-free one on. Okay. And a hat. Yeah.

But no moisturizer. Definitely no moisturizer when you work out. Okay. Just that. That's a myth. You can't do that. Okay. So moisturizing all the time, not true.

The exception is working out. Okay. Your skin needs to breathe. Since we're talking about things that aren't true, let's talk about MythBusters. Sure. I know you have a list for us and I want to go in depth. Okay. Well, listen, here's some stuff to do.

Okay. So I'm just going to be outside for a few minutes. I don't need sunscreen. That's a myth. Right? I'll tell you why. So if you or I go outside now for like 10 minutes, right? We're going just to get into our car, going down the street, blah, blah, coming back in.

Then an hour later we go back out again and we just, and we don't have a sunscreen on every time we go outside. I did the math, right? If you are just, if you don't wear a sunscreen for those little 10-minute episodes, right, and you do that a couple times a day, by the end of a 365-day year, that would be the equivalent of having sat in the sun on a beach for three straight days. When you, I think you told me that once before. I always tried to like repeat it, but I can't. So now I'm going to remember it.

It's so important. So the point is you don't need, you should be wearing a sunscreen, even if you're not actually actively sunbatting. And I'm telling you guys, this is how you're going to look younger in years to come. What body sunscreen should we use on our hands and our chest? Yeah. A good one with an SPF of 30 or higher. Can we use the one that you have that you use for the face on the body too?

Yeah, of course you can. Vice versa, though, not true, right? Body sunscreens can be a little bit too heavy. Okay. For the face. For the face and can block pores. So sun exposure, you should definitely be careful. I have driving gloves.

Right. And that's another really important thing. Here's what I'm seeing in my office. Okay. I don't know if this is how this factors into a myth. I'm seeing more lines and wrinkles on one side of the face on people. Driving. Driving side.

The window on the driving side. No question. You got to know that even if you think you're not, you're just driving and things are fine. People in their 40s, you come in, you can literally see more crow's feet. and more sagging. And even larger pores is a part of aging because you lose collagen, the skin thins out. Boom, the pore looks bigger. And so the driver's side exposure is really important.

I have to send you that. The right side of my face better. That picture, there's a picture that's going around the internet of a truck driver, like an 18-wheel truck driver drove all over the country, the side of his face compared to the other. It's crazy. I got to remind me to send it to you. Important. Sunglasses, you know, again, just pearls and tips and myths and stuff.

A big issue is sunglasses should really cover your eyes well, and what happens is like the nicest, chicest sunglasses still allows sun through the top, right? That's not a big deal that the sun gets through the top of your eyeglasses, your sunglasses. But what happens is that there's a little bit of glare that forms like right between your eye and the lens itself. You start squinting behind your sunglasses because there's more sun getting through the tops of your sunglasses. that chronic squinting is essentially wear and tear. Because when you squint, you start to compress the muscle there,

the skin starts to thin out a little bit more, and you start to see lines and wrinkles. So sunglasses should, if you're noticing that you're like this behind your sunglasses, definitely. Think about getting sunglasses that wrap up a little bit more. So they're great, but you have to really make them better. Let me see yours. Let's see here.

Those are damn good. Okay. Here's the next product line. for you guys orange sunglasses that actually cover the top. I would wear them everywhere that's basically covering my whole face. Like make a thing. Yeah. I love big sunglasses.

Are those in now? Like what's the, the three blind mice look is in right now, those really thin ones. Not for me. I look like a freak wearing those. But I'm still wearing my big sunglasses because I'm a sunnut. These ones because I got a small head.

So this one, but Mimi, your sister always tells me she can't stand them because they cover my eyebrows and stuff. But I, so you maybe Dr. Dr. Dennis said they're good. That is, I'm telling you, those are brilliant. That's the way to go.

Those little guys, I don't know. They just going to, you know, they may look good now, but man, you're going to kick yourself later. So that's really, you know, small sunglasses are not as good as big sunglasses. All the hipsters. Get rid of those hipster glasses. Here's another issue. I can tell you that people sleeping on one side of the face, you start to see more lines and wrinkles

there too. Silk pillowcase? Silk pillowcase. Good. Satin pillowcase good. Try to sleep on your back. you know, it's possible. Do you guys sleep on your backs?

I am a medley. Let me ask you this. I wear an eye mask, but it's one of those ones that has like fly eyes so that they don't touch my eyes. Because I always think that's weird when you're trying to. What about those? I think those are good. I'll tell you why. I like this.

Because the reason that the way it works is that when you're pressing your skin against a pillow, right? Because you're sleeping on one side of your face. You are inevitably doing two things. You're scrunching up the skin, right? And so when you bunch up the skin, that causes lines and wrinkles where you bunch it up. It's the same exact reason when your shoes get a crease across them when you start to wear them. Right out of the box is nothing. As soon as you start to wear them, they'll drive me nuts.

Right? But that's a fact of life. It's a biological material, right? Skin is, and so is leather. So that scrunching up causes it. And the other thing is, back to the pressure concept, by putting pressure on your pillow, on a regular basis, on one side of your face every single day, you lose bone. Bone starts to diminish.

So you start to see people. And this is way, I mean, I know your audience and maybe a little young person is. No, no, no. I'm obsessed with this. Tell me every secret. Okay. Okay. The deal is, is that you can start to lose bone from too much chronic pressure,

too much constant pressure on one side of your face versus another. Okay. So when Michael is sleeping on one side tonight, I'm going to wake him up so dramatically and be like, get on your back. I'm sure all the listeners are going to sleep like babies tonight, especially those side sleepers. You know, I'm going to be sleeping on my back all the time. If you can. Here's the thing.

You sleep a huge part of your life. And so when I tell people I have a silk pillowcase, they're like, that's a little extra. It's not extra. You're sleeping so much of your life, right? So sleeping on the back is better. We got to do what we got to do. Right. I think that's true.

I really do. So I think that's another great thing to think about. How about this, you know, shaving against the grain, right? Like, you know, that's how people always do it. Men do that, women, shaving their legs and yada, yada. That hurts. That's a myth, right?

I'll tell you why. It's a 50% myth because only 50% of hair is going one direction. The grain, quote unquote, is for half the hair. So when you start to move against the grain with your razor, right, great. You get them. But if you look closely under like high power of magnification, Not all hairs just go in one direction. They start to go left and right and up and down.

So you got to always shave a few times against the grain, but then forget about that rule. The matter of way to shave is then just go left, right, right, left, up, down, down, up, diagonal, back and forth. Go in all different directions because that's going to give you a lot of more cleaner shave. And the problem with that is you start to see like ingrown hairs, because you're pressing too hard on a razor, right? Wow.

So when you fail to really go and get all those hairs, you know, you start to feel and you start to feel more hairs because you're going against the grain, going against the grain, you still feel more and more. What are you going to do? You're going to press harder, right? It's natural human nature just to go grind against it. That's what's causing you're grown hairs.

So if you realize that your hair is grow in different directions and half of it go in one direction, which is the grain, the other half isn't, right? So it's going to allow you to be more gentle in your shaving. I'll tell you a secret, Lauren, I bet you didn't know this. Maybe everyone in this room does it. I refuse to pet dogs against the grain. What?

My whole wife, I would only, if I see a dog and I pet it and I see someone petting up, I'm like, that might hurt his hair, so I only go down the hair. What a kind man. My husband only pets dogs one way is because he doesn't want to hurt their hair. Because it looks like... Thanks for that tidbit. It looks like it would rip their hairs out. your whole life story.

You go down, you get a smooth, you get a smooth pet, you know. See, she does the same. Humanitarian that he is. The dog whisper. It's a smooth pet. Thanks for letting me know that. Anyways, side thing. So, pet the dog down.

So those are some of the myths I was thinking about. That grain thing drives me nuts because I can't tell you. I see so many people within grown hairs like in their groins and then they get, then they get infected, you know, and then they start to work out, you know, everyone works out. And then they heat and humidity and the, build up on top of that. And then maybe they just like moisturize. I mean, it's just like the perfect storm. So you can prevent a lot of stuff just by knowing some simple rules of thumb like that. And what about we talked a little bit earlier, but I really want to go in depth here.

I have heard that people are taking fat out of their ass and putting it in their lips. Right. People are taking fat out of their ass and putting it everywhere, right? That's just a, fats, fats is just something you can use as a filler. Could I go get my boobs read out and ask for fat in my boobs or is that not a thing? That's not done yet, right? And it probably now that you mention it, someone's going to think to start to do it. How is that not done yet? Well, here's a thing. Okay. Look, first of all, let's talk about fat injections. Okay. And then we'll talk about the boobs. Fat is something that is a permanent filler, right? Restolin, you know, harmonic acid or all these other things are temporary. Silicon is not temporary, but never do silicone. Folks, don't go there.

And I have silicone implants right now just to take a side note and I have to get them redone in a month. She got them when she was 19. When I was 19. Yeah. And I'm going to get, wait, I'm going to get silica. Wait, I have saline and I'm going to get silicone. Is that right? That's a medical device though.

You see, that's been food drug administration tested. That's not what I'm talking about. Got it. Sorry. Oh, no, no, no, no. That's that, no. I'm talking about silicone in a bottle that take, you put in a needle and you shoot it into someone's skin that's being done out there. It's illegal.

And it's completely unpredictable and it leads to lumps and then you're stuck with it forever. You can't get it out. You can't, unless you surgically remove it with stitches. Which is what Lisa Renna got done. She wrote about it in her book. I just read her book and she says, do not do that. Yeah. So now back to fat, right?

The thing with fat is injecting fat is, and I do a lot of fillers, right? I don't do fat because it's unpredictable, right? When you put a filler in, you can put it in a certain depth, certain place, certain amount. Technique is perfect. You get, what you get is what the person leaves. what they can look like in a month or in two months down the road is exactly how they look when you leave. Fat is unpredictable. It moves around and it causes lumps.

And then people are stuck in this vicious cycle either needing more fat or needing fillers to try to get it to look even. Right? And so let's say you get your cheeks done. And that's a huge thing. You can now, now you have one cheek higher than another. Okay. So now what are you going to do? You can't take it out of the cheek that's too high.

now you're forced to put it into the cheek that's too low and you get two cheeks that are too big, right? So this is that slippery slope that people end up getting on when they do fat. So I personally think that look, you always stick to the stuff that we know is safe and improved and temporary stuff is good because, you know, if you don't like it, it wears away. If you don't like it as an enzyme, you can get rid of it. That's unpredictable. You know, and so back, but your point about the lip, I think, is really the most important thing because the lip is a closed space, right? And it's really, I do a lot of lips, and it's the number one thing where I think involves most artistry as a doctor to get it right. If you start to inject fat, you can't predict that it's going to turn out fine, and then people are really stuck with lips they don't like, and it's tragic.

you know um i can't tell i have i have a patient who it's so sad i mean she literally says i just wish i'm waiting she's hoping it goes down the doctor keeps telling her it's going to get better and better i know it's not but you know she said to me and i didn't burst her bubble by telling her it's not going to be the case but she said i just can't wait for two years to pass so my lips look better i just wish i could just i wish i could just go to sleep for two years and wake up you're saying it's never going to church wishing why can't you get like lipo and is there anything you could do or no no because You know, it's, think about it, sticking something in your lip to try to suck out fat. It's mixed in with your regular tissue.

It's just, it's in there. You can't. So you're stuck with it. You are stuck with it. Oh, my God. What is, what is something that you see a lot of people coming to you that needs to be fixed? A lot of, I see a lot of bad Botox. I see a lot of bad filler, you know.

That's it. What is bad Botox? Bad Botox droops. on asymmetry. One half of the face does not look like the other, right? So one brows up, the other brows down. Or they're just, you know, one eye is bigger than another, you know. That's a huge thing.

So lots of times you can fix bad Botox if the fix it involves giving more Botox. You can't fix bad Botox by taking it out. Got it. He's got to wait for it. So I fix a lot. of that. Fillers, the most important thing in beauty, number one rule, right, is you want the left side and the right side of the face to look perfectly equal. That's, that's symmetry. That's, that's beauty, right? You have great symmetry. I'm going to tell the truth. Your cheekbones are even,

your eyes are even. If you took a mirror and put it right down the middle of your face, and you took a shot of your left and you put it over your right, they would overlap. That's going to be my new compilom. Great symmetry. But that's, but that was like the classic Cleopatra thing. If you're a lot, you looked at her, you know, back in the day, the symmetry was the key and it still is. All models are perfectly symmetrical, right? It's pretty symmetrical, too, dude. No, don't.

Just give it to me. I got one. On my gravestone, it's going to say she had good symmetry. What is not symmetrical? What is like, do you know what? I broke my nose a long time ago? That's because, and they like, they never fixed it properly. They just did that whole thing where they put the cast and smashed it back together.

He's changing his mind about you and he's just looking at me now. He's like, eh, you're good. You're good. You're both good. honestly but symmetry can be fixed that's the thing don't sit I hope someone's out there looking in the mirror right now hearing this podcast and saying run into the mirror oh my god I'm asymmetrical don't worry you can fix that that is the beauty of filler right you can give a cheek but you can make a cheekbone higher and

and get it equal you can you can give a person a more rounded chin right so but there's just there's a difference between restoring and in other words making a person look like the way they used to look years ago or giving them a face, right? So some, and, and sometimes when the person is just naturally not symmetrical, you can, you can fix that. You can give them a quote new face. You can just, and that's just a tweak, you know? You know what I'm seeing a lot of, and I wanted to talk to you about this is, and I'm seeing a lot of it on like real housewives and stuff is, is there's too much filler underneath the eye and it's pressing the eye to make it smaller. Yep, big problem. Do you see that

everywhere? I do. And I do a lot. That's called tear troughs. I do that. You can fill. But the key thing is, yes, the answer is, yes, I do. Right. And it's not just injected under the eye. It's injected into the cheek so much so that actually it's so puffy in the middle of the face and the central cheek that when they smile and they talk, it starts to like encroach up into the eye area so the eye look smaller. And it's really bad when one side's worse than another, you know. So then they start to look a little cock-eyed and it's just unusual, right? But you can inject. And you can inject filler under the eyes in the right situation. And this is another thing I do, which is, you know, you got to just pick your people. And sometimes, and a lot of times you say, no,

it's just not good for you. You're not a candidate. This is not going to, this is not good, right? So people with puffy eyes, you know, and there's people with, with a lot of fluid under their eyes, or big fat pads. You can help them, but sometimes you can't, and you got to just be honest with them and tell them that's not going to fly. You need a doctor like that, not a Groupon. Yeah. I also am noticing too with filler, and this could just be, I don't know because it's the industry I'm in, but I'm noticing that people will fill certain areas,

and like you said, it pushes up and then they'll have to, they almost have to fill other areas to even it out. That's right. What am I trying? You're, that's what you call a slippery slope, a vicious cycle, and that's why you just got to do it right from the start, because, That's what happens. One bad procedure causes you to get another bad procedure.

You start to chase one. It's called chasing your tail, right? So they had something injected, and then they weren't happy, and you got to fix it by trying to give more. So this is a common thing, right? So fillers are great, but there's a lot of bad filler. Okay, we're going to change it to Botox because, drum roll please. Yeah. Michael has decided.

Well, wait, we're going to have a conversation. You have decided a lot of things, which is a- happens a lot of my life. This is thinking me so excited to do this on air. Okay. And I thought it would be, well, actually, this was my idea to do this on air because I figured. Okay, you're going to edit as your ideas. I grew up watching Stern, you know, and he would do all these weird segments, and I thought,

this is not a weird segment, but I thought it would be interesting to talk. So, everyone has been pushing me to, not everyone. I think the audience is split. Do I do Botox? Do I not do Botox? Right. Lauren is probably in the camp four. I said, let me talk to somebody who knows what the hell they're talking about.

And so let's talk. Sure. About you. Give him the whole thing. Pretend like you're consulting him. Okay. So live consultation. Okay.

So, okay. The examination starts right now we're sitting six feet apart. And this is where the examination starts, right? So right now, off the top of my head, I can look at you. I need to sit a certain way. You're there. You're there. I'm examining you right the second.

Okay. So right here, I am seeing that you have lines on your forehead. Yes. And that is because those lines that you see, the skin is thinning right there. You have a certain facial expression where you raise your brow, right? And you talked about this to me before, right? When you're tense, when you're thinking, when you're reading, right? So always.

Always. When you're, you're interrupting my exam. I'm a doctor here. Lauren, be quiet. This is a medical, this is a medical examination. So you're raising your brow and you're thinning out your skin, right? Okay. So what Botox will do for you is it's going to soften that vigorous upward movement of your brow so that you can't do it anymore.

and it's going to allow your skin in those lines that you see to relax and actually start to regenerate, right? Because that constant wear and tear by raising your brow is causing thinning of the skin. I just did this video on my website, right? There's a blog where you can look at how to tell whether or not your skin is thinning. You're an example of forehead thinning, right? And what you want to do is be able to predict what you need. Some people thin out in the crows feet. Some people thin at upper lip, right? You can start to see laxity here. It's all about collagen loss. And so for you, a little bit of Botox, a little bit of Botox is going to soften. What is baby Botox and Botox? It's the same thing or just administer differently? It's actually lower concentration and administer

a little differently. Okay. So you ask, I'm going to tell you more because you guys love details. I love a detail. Okay. So it's not just, baby Botox is not just a little bit less in the syringe, right? For you, it's also about knowing that you have a bit of hooding. Your brows are down a little bit, right? That's natural. This is natural. Too much Botox in your forehead is going to cause your brows to come down. We don't want that. Right. So now, not only do we need to put in less in the needle in the syringe, right? But you need to be injected higher up in the forehead, right? Because the closer to the brow you inject, the more likely that brow is going to come down from the Botox, right? Since you don't want that, the whole goal of Botox is to open the eyes.

In fact, when you create a program for somebody, the idea is to pick your priorities, open the eyes and then decide how much Botox you can give someone without compromising that. You know what I don't like, though, and I'm not trying to interrupt you, but when the eyes, you know, when someone gets in, their eyes are like, like they look like an owl. That's bad Botox. Yeah. That's bad Botox. That's too much Botox, actually. Too much Botox in through here, into the lines that the muscles that cause the 11s here. You put in too much here, the brows come flying up, right?

So there's that with the brows coming up too high and the brows coming down too much. So for you, a little Botox, baby Botox means not too much in that syringe, but injected in a certain way in an arc. How many units? Favoring up. You know what? I will. I'm going to tell you, since I would just start with like five units. Okay. Is that a lot of units? No, no, no, no. No.

But what I would do is I'd put it in a large volume. In other words, I'd dilute it so that I could put shots in through the forehead and really spread it around. So ultimately, all I'm doing is five units. But I'm also putting it into a lot of fluid, right, so that I can spread it around. And that's how you get this really natural look. soften the lines, and especially a person for the first time, sometimes people are super responsive to it. They're really sensitive to it. So you always are better off putting it in. This is my advice,

sitting with it for a week, and if you need more, get more, right? Rather than taking a chance, you can't take it back once it's in, but you can always add to it. So wait a week. If you need more, you do more, right? But this is what we'll do a little bit. Well, it's a good thing because we're going to look natural and nobody will know. And we're going to do it. Everybody listening. We're going to do it on the podcast you guys so I'm going to kind of walk you through it um and you you'll you guys will have to take your audio equipment off but we can why were you feeling when my consultation still going oh okay sorry why were you feeling around my temples why first yeah like what does that because because I could do a shot and raise your brow I can give you a shot not your temples I was I was

really playing with the tip of your brow there's a thing called a Botox brow lift right where you can actually inject in a certain way and get the brow to come up, right? So I got to tell you, it's probably a good idea for me to do that for you too, right? Because it's a safety measure so that if the brow comes down a little bit from the Botox in the forehead, a little Botox right here, right here gives you a little bit of a lift. I know you're worried about that crazy eye. It doesn't give you a crazy eye. And this is all super, super conservative stuff. I'm not going to be crazy in terms of how much. But it's a delicate balance you're trying to strike, right?

The brow's like a seesaw, right? It can either shoot up or it can come down, right? And you've got to know, and that's really the art of Botox injections. You've got to know how every individual sort of needs to have their own customized treatment plan laid out for them. If you start something like this and then you, like, do you have to keep coming and doing it? Right. You don't.

And people always ask me, you know, am I going to become addicted to it? It's a myth too, by the way. It's like, you know, oh, I started Botox, I'm going to look worse if I don't decide. Decide not to do it anymore. Am I going to look worse? My lines can get deeper. It's not true. You know, it's not.

You go back to the way you were, you know. The Frankenstein that I am. Yeah. Frankenstein's monster. But thinning skin, you got to just, this is an example of when should you start, right? Right. Right. The answer is, like, whenever you start to see thinning skin, like if you start to see here,

those lines are really thinned out skin, start treatment, you know? And you start to see it right here. use things like vitamin C, if you start talking about the crow's feet in their eye area. Vitamin C is great. You know, LED spectralite stuff that you develop. That, there's science there. You should not wait, you know. And that's why it's so important to know, like, is your skin thinning?

That's the key, which is what I'm teaching in this video, because you want to know and then take action. Because you guys, younger people can really look young, really young for your entire life, as long as you intervene early, right? You can always, once something is over the, when something starts to look really lined and saggy, very hard to climb that uphill battle and reverse it, but to prevent it from getting bad in the first place, that's the real ticket.

This is why I, as a wife, want him to do this with you. And I think that, I think that I told Michael today, I'm like, it's cool that you're doing this on audio because not a lot of men would do something like this. I mean, it takes sort of balls to show this. Are you saying this to make me cut out? I get what you're doing. I get the manipulation.

But yes, listen, this is my idea. We'll try. Listen, obviously, I'm not scared of needles here. Okay, but I don't want to hear one complaint because I had double jaw surgery. And you getting a couple needles is, it's just. Can you drink alcohol after this? Yeah. Because we're going to go to dinner.

The only thing you can't do is, and I feel. feel like you can explain this is like drop your head right well i'm pretty strict about this yes you can't lie down for three hours afterwards and you can't exercise that day we aren't going to do that those are those are those are and and that's something that anyone listening to this should really know because that is not emphasized and botox is about precision injections right so if you go and you start to run right or jog or bike or or do yoga and, you know, you know, downward dog and all that stuff after you get your shots, it could move a millimeter here and there. It's not going to, I'm not going to say it's going to ruin it, but it can help to just leave it

alone by not exercise. A millimeter makes a big difference, huh? Totally. Yeah. How long does this stay in there? Mine stays like nine months. Yeah. I think you're probably going to get, I'm going to guess like four months because we're going to do so

little, you know, but maybe longer. And, you know, again, you got to get to know your patients and your clients and see how they respond and then have a conversation on follow visits and maybe change it. But to start, got to be super careful. And just a quick story, I had a friend that got Botox in his forehead and you don't know, Jen's friend. And he went to Nordstrom's to try on shoes. Well, when you're trying on shoes, you're bending over, tying your shoe and completely got a lace. I'm trying on shoes. So it's really important. Okay. Great. Yeah, great thing to mention right before. He's right. It's important to say that your head needs to be kept up. It's like it's not a joke. Yeah. At least for like three hours.

It really is important. Don't lie down. Don't bend down. Don't try to have sex with me. What about in the shower? Don't touch it or don't? I wouldn't. I wouldn't. You know, I just don't touch it. Just don't touch it. Just don't touch it. It leaves little bumps for a couple hours, you know, that you can still feel the Bumps to really go down on 20 minutes, but if you, let's have people play with it and see it. No, no, no, no, no, no. They press on it to see if the bumps are still there. Or people put a hat on afterwards. Yeah, I wouldn't do that either. Right.

It looks like once in 20 minutes, the shot after shot, those bumps are gone. Don't feel around to see if they're underneath your skin. How come some people have the bumps for like a day? Well, that because maybe they're a little bruised. That could happen, you know, if you got to know that. That's really number one is bruising. It's not common, but it can happen. Votox 80 million times, you're going to be fine. You're acting as if you're going to war.

Like, it's going to be fine. It's five units. Here we go. Are you guys ready? So we'll take a break and then film it. But I think we can also record it too. I just got to take a break on it. Yeah, I want to do both. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. Just close your eyes. It's like a little pinch. What is this in comparison to the pain level of like a tattoo? Oh, doctor, you're going to put the, you're going to be in the headset too? Okay. We're ready to fly here. Have you ever done this before?

I'm going to get out of your way. I've done that one time before, that one patient. Yeah. No, I'm all kidding. I've done it. No, but I mean, have you ever done this before? Recorded while I'm doing this? Oh, no, no, no.

I've been recorded by like patients' friends for their like video, which you've never actually been. No, no, not on like a podcast as I'm doing this. No. Okay. So what are you going to feel? You're going to feel like a little pinches, maybe like a little mosquito bite kind of thing or you'll see. So if I start crying on camera later, I'm just getting the talk about it. So the first thing I'm going to do is I'm just going to look at you.

Raise your brow super high. Okay. So I'm seeing the thinning all through here. Now turn to me a little bit more. Okay. Now relax your brow. So when you start to, you still see the lines even after you've relaxed. Those are the enemy.

Okay. We hate the enemy. We hate the enemy. Okay, so turn this way. Raise your brow one more time and come on down. First shot. That's one. You okay?

I didn't feel that. Yeah. You are no longer a Botox Virgin. You know what? I didn't feel that. Number two. Number two. You good?

Yeah, I don't even feel it, to be honest. Wow. I am such a good wife. I'd give myself an A if I'm being honest. Beautiful. See the little bumps he's getting? This is normal. I can show him at the end.

Raise your brow again. Come on down. I'm just watching where your lines are when you raise. That's where you need it. Okay, come on up again. Okay, come on down. So now I like to, I personally love lines by the, by the hair line to go away because I hate people showing lines. How you doing there?

I honestly haven't even felt one thing. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. You see, it's a little tiny fine needle. Super fine. You couldn't get finer than that. Okay.

One more time up and down. Now I develop just a little less tiny shot. between my big shot. This is so cutting edge. I'm obsessed with this moment. This is like the most amazing thing ever. Okay. So that's the bulk of it. Now, what I'm going to do is I'm going to just put a little bit in. Bring your brow down really hard. Okay. Want to see something really cool, Lauren? Yes. Take look at this. Watch. Bring your brow down. So you can actually see where the brow comes down, but right here where the brow stops coming down, this is where you put your shot. Relax it. There we go.

tiny shot there. Boom. Turn this way. Bring your brow down again. Really hard. Now relax it. Another shot. This is how we raise the brow.

I'm going to see your eyes for the first time. I've been closed for so long. He reminds me of the peanuts when they're dancing with their eyes closed. Do you know what I'm talking about? How's your commentary, Lauren? I love it. Drop here. Oh, my commentary.

So he's putting a drop of. Botox. On the right side, there's a very, very minimal residual of bumps. It's very small. Those two, I felt. Those are done. Right. And we're done.

And we're done. Totally, totally. So Dr. Dennis, when I get Botox, I see it right away. Is that the same for everyone? You know what? It's different for different people. Lauren, I'm a new man. Right away.

I don't know if you're going to be able to hold on to me anymore. You look so good. I'm going to be in demand now. I think it's such a good. good idea to get it early like this. Yeah, you're looking so good. Now, these little bumps here, this is what, what a turn on. 30 minutes to go down. Okay. Don't lay down. Don't exercise. Have a great martini with dinner. Or a few. A few. You know what? Honestly, like, I didn't feel that, but I don't know if that's, like, the normal experience or if it just... Yeah, people over-worry

about this. Well, he's also a really good injector. That, yeah. Dr. Dennis. Yeah, ma'am. That was amazing. Really quick, before we go, you guys, we have a code for my favorite peel pads on the planet. I am obsessed with them. I talk about them all the time. What's the code? It's Skinny 10, right? Skinny 10.

And we'll leave all the, the, it's just Dr. Dennis.com or is it their skin? It's Dr. Dennisgross.com. You can send me pictures of yourself, and I can answer questions. I can, I'll send you some, you know, just ask questions. Send me a photo. If your skin's thinning or you want me to look at your accent. me, I can get back to you and give you some personal advice. How did they send it to the Instagram? Just go to my blog on Dr. Dennisgross.com, you know, send me a photo, ask a question. I'll get back

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And thank you for fixing me and making me youthful again. Yeah, he's looking great. Now I'm going, Lauren, you better watch out. I'm going to, might get stopped in the street now. Yeah. I'm going to take credit for his second way. You should. It's going to look great. Thank you for coming on. That was so much. I love it doing it. Pleasure. Hey guys, I know that that offer with Dr. Dennis was quick. So in case you missed it, go to www.com. Dr. Dennisgross.com and use promo code Skinny10 at checkout. Make sure you get the peel pads. You will thank me later.

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