The Bossticks - #147: Heather McMahan - Comedic Relief, Laughing Through Hard Times, The Life of a Comic, & Building a Comedy Career

Episode Date: November 2, 2018

On this episode we sit down with one of the funniest person we have ever met Heather McMahon. Heather is a rising star in the comedy world and this episode does not fail to deliver laughs. We discuss Heather's comedy career and the process of finding laughter during some of the hardest times. Get ready to laugh your ass off! To connect with Heather McMahon click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) For Detailed Show Notes click HERE This episode is brought to you by FOUR SIGMATIC We have been drinking this company's mushroom-infused elixirs and coffees for over a year now. When we need a break from coffee but still need that extra morning jolt and focus the Mushroom Coffee with Lion's Mane and Chaga is the way to go. Lauryn also drinks the Mushroom Matcha which is a green tea designed as a coffee alternative for those of you who want to cut back on caffeine without losing focus and cognitive boosts. This stuff doesn't actually taste like mushrooms, it's delicious. All of these blends have a ton of nutrients and amino acids to give you balanced energy without the jitters. To try FOUR SIGMATIC products go to foursigmatic.com/skinny and use promo code SKINNY for 15% off all products.  This episode is brought to you by Pure Romance, Pure romance helps women love their lives through bath, beauty and bedroom accessories. Pure Romance's dedication to women's sexual health sets them apart. To try Pure Romance visit pureromance.com and use code SKINNY for 10% off your purchase.    

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Working in the lab late one night, when my eyes beheld an eerie sight. For my monster from his lab began to rise. And suddenly, to my surprise. He did the monster man. You know those giant Crystal Springs, five-gallon jugs? Like, I was the one who always had to carry it upstairs to my parents. He'd in the room. He's like, God damn, Heather, grab two of those things.

I'm like, Dad, I'm like, 11 years old. I can't carry these giant jugs. But when my dad was dying, he lost a lot of weight, and he was such a big dude, and he pulled me aside in the hospital. He was like, hey, listen, you know you're built like me, right? I was like, you're right, Daddy. He goes, if you start getting skinny, you're probably dying, okay, honey, so don't lose any weight. It's a bad sign. And so literally, I'm always like, oh, I don't want to get too thin because I'm probably dying.

Like, you have to laugh at this shit. You cannot control what happens to you, right? Spooked you. Well, this episode's going to go live a little bit after Halloween, but we're recording this intro on Halloween. So, Boo, Spooky. Taylor, maybe you can add a little bit of spooky music to this. No, Taylor, add the monster mash. Maybe, yeah, maybe the little monster mash.

Instead of our normal intro. Yeah, Taylor, have some fun with it. If we can mesh that in somewhere. Maybe like a bat noise. Welcome back. Welcome back, everybody, the Skinny Competential, him and her show. If you are new to the show, thank you for joining. That clip was from our guests of the show today.

Heather McMahon, this episode is a fun one. We go all over the place. We dive into some funny topics, funny details. What else do we dive into? A lot of stuff. You know, it's very lighthearted. Michael and I are always trying to mix up the guests. We want like serious.

We want some business. We want some funny. We want some lightheartedness. We never want you guys to expect something. We always want to throw you a curveball. So this episode is actually inspired by Instagram. I was really hung over on a Sunday eating a veggie delight sandwich in bed with extra avocados, extra sprouts, and extra pepperosinis from the deli across the street that I postmated.

That's one minute away. Which always embarrasses me. And I was like going through this Instagram deep dive. One of you guys actually told me to check out her Britney Spears breakdown. I don't know who it was. So if it was you, DM me. Anyway, so I went and did this deep dive into Heather's Instagram on her highlight. And she talks about Britney Spears like over the course of three highlights.

It's amazing. You have to check it out. And then I got Michael so on board with Heather when I showed him her Halloween costume. Heather is the next rising star. She already is a star when she's rising. 100%. I think she's going to be a huge star. She is a huge star.

I was fucking dying when you showed me that when she dressed up like the guy from my pillow. The my pillow guy. God, she's fucking funny. Guys, you know, do yourself a favor. Actually, just like turn off this episode and go to her Instagram and go watch some of this stuff and then come back because it's, it had me like hysterically laughing. She was showing me when I was driving the car. It's probably not the most responsible thing. And I almost swerved off the road.

Yeah, she is a real hoot, you guys. I feel like, With my profession, it's really important that I'm always on the pulse of everything and watching where things are going. I always tell Michael, if I wasn't a podcaster and a blogger, I would be a talent spotter. I didn't mean to brag. And I am telling you with Heather, she is going to be major and huge. Not that she already isn't. She's already huge, but I feel like she's like the next Amy Schumer.

She's great. And I also like, I didn't know who that, who the, who is the person you show me she dressed up as for Halloween? Um, wait, barefoot contessa. Yeah. Is that her name? I don't know, but it was funny, whatever it was. You guys go look at her Instagram. Do yourself in favor.

Just shut this podcast off. You've already heard it from us. Go take a look. Then come back and hear her again because she really was amazing and we really liked doing the interview. Sometimes you just need a little comedic relief. We're in the middle of a fucking move that's killing me. It's pissing me off. We have three places right now.

We have one in San Diego. That's basically an overpriced storage locker. We have one here in L.A. That's the condo we have. And now we got another condo. I've never, and we can only be in one place at one time. Lauren, you need to consolidate it. you need to do your job as a wife and get me organized.

No, you guys have no idea. If you follow along on Instagram story, it's been pure chaos in our life. Basically, we've been commuting from San Diego to L.A. for the last eight months. And when I say commuting, I mean back and forth twice a week in traffic. The other day I calculated how long I was in the car and it was like eight hours, which was pretty bleak. So basically our stuff is everywhere.

The clothes I'm wearing are three days old. I'm wearing stuff out of the hamper. I don't know where anything is. it's bleak right now. So we're trying to take everything from San Diego and get it into L.A. this week. But a lot of you guys are asking me, are we moving out of San Diego? We are moving to L.A. basically full time. But we think we're going to get a tiny studio or one bedroom apartment in Del Mar.

To all our family and friends that have been wondering if you're still going to be part of our lives, probably not. It's time to go, guys. Listen, it's been the last 30 years with me has been cool, parents, friends, family, but It's time for me to move on. Do you have to talk like Mr. Rogers when you say that? Time to move on. All right. So, no, Michael's just saying that.

We're going to be in L.A., but we're also going to be in San Diego a little bit here and there. We have a lot of family and friends in San Diego, so we're not abandoned here. Not anymore, we don't. Michael. I'm just kidding. We'll still be around. God, I'm going to get so many messages.

Don't worry. I'm not going anywhere. You're not being in the spirit of Thanksgiving. It's November now. I'm thankful that we had that time together, friends and family. Michael. go read your book. All right, let's talk about pure romance before we get into Heather's interview. Let's talk about pure romance. So the brand pure romance is more than a party, guys. It's more than a

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All you have to do is go to www.pureromance.com and inner promo code skinny for 10% off. That's pureromance.com. Use promo code skinny for 10% off. And have fun with this one. Heather McMahon is the next thing, guys. If you don't follow her on Instagram, you're missing out on so many laughs. And if you don't believe me here, check out her Halloween costume. Like, she won Halloween, I'm telling you.

Anyway, Heather is a well-known comedian, and she describes herself as a friend of anyone who owns a deli. I fell in love with her via Insta on a hungover Sunday. Just check out her highlights. You will not be disappointed, and your screen time will double. With that, let's welcome Heather, one of the funniest chicks I've ever met to the show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. So I almost think it's better to like keep telling people I'm going to launch a podcast and then it never comes out. Oh, I love a cock tease.

Just build a tour around a podcast that may launch. Yes, exactly. Let's call it the cocktees tour. Yes. That's what you need. And you can drive around when the tour actually comes in a huge cock. Yes. You know?

I do it. I love phallic things. I love phallic foods. Like this would be great. And Jeff, my boyfriend, the Italian style can just drive the cocktee's bus. So on brand. The Italian. Yeah.

He's literally driving around his Lexus right now around town. You're dating. No, literally. Honestly, kind of. Yes. Yes.

Okay. He's like a meaty Italian guy from New York, went to Ben State, but he's like a frat daddy from the south. Like it's just, it's a lot of things.

Frat daddy, what's that? Like he just wears a lot, he has like a chest here always popping out of his like button downs. He like thinks he's Southern, but he's very tight. Yeah, he is. Full beard,

like Wolverine beard, you know what I mean? Yeah. Okay, so I discovered you through Instagram story. One of my readers, I don't know who it was. So I apologize. DM me on.

on Instagram if it was you. Told me to go look at your Britney Spears breakdown. Yes. Britney 911. Yeah, I actually don't mean Britney's breakdown. I mean your breakdown of Britney Spears. But my breakdown of her breakdown, essentially. Yes.

So I started to become obsessed when I saw that there was tiny furniture in her house. Okay, so the tiny furniture thing I have really dissected. Now, do I think it could be for her tiny dogs? Yes. Could it also be for fairies? Yes, you know, she has a big thing with fairies. It could also, though, be for Jamie Lynn's daughter's American Girl dolls. That's the one I really want to go with.

I think that seems more grounded, but probably it's for the fairies. For people that don't know what the tiny furniture is, give us context. She has tiny furniture in her all over her house, like little baby beds, like literally like doll beds, little couches, and she always has them in the background of all the videos that she puts up. So she'll be like doing her crazy exercises in her gym, and then you can see the tiny baby bed in the background. Okay, so back up. So you, you are a comedian. Yes. You come on Instagram story and everyone falls in love with you because you have a great personality. Talk to me about how you went from comedian to now, I mean, you're also still a comedian, but to like Instagram stories standout star. You know what's funny? I'm so grateful that Instagram has given me this platform because I've really like been organically doing this for years. I mean, I'm a character actor and a comedian, so I've been like wearing wigs and doing crazy videos on the internet forever. But this, for some reason, the story. format, like the way I write jokes now is in 15 seconds. Like, just getting that like little, like that button, that punch at the end is just kind of how

my brain works now. So I just kind of mastered that art. But I just love that people can, you know, kind of get a look into my everyday life. And it's been such a great way for me to just kind of like share my story. You know, the last two years have been really wild. I've moved back home with my parents or my mom after my dad died. I was living in L.A., doing the comedy thing, like Thryry. driving, like hustling, and then life

kind of hit, and I said, fuck it, I got to go back and, you know, live at home for a little bit and help my mom. And it's really kind of where, like, my comedy even grew. You know, sometimes, like, when you're going through dark shit, the funniest stuff comes out. So I just, people are, like, obsessed with my mom now, and I'm just telling my stories.

So the fact that people tune in I'm so grateful for, honestly. What type of stand-up were you doing before? I mean, I guess that's broad, but, like, what was your act based on? Because now a lot of it has a social component, so you're fitting into that context and those mediums, what was the act before? Well, I was a big, like, a big advocate for, like, I did a lot of improv,

and so I did stuff at, like, UCB here in New York and in L.A. And my stand-up's really storytelling. Like, I just kind of, I do a lot of impressions. What's your best impression? Well, I personally like doing male impressions. Like, I love, I'm obsessed with Pitbull. Like, just, you know, how he talks like this. He's like, Dolly, like, you never understand what he's saying.

Ha-ha! He, like, giggles through everything. Like he could literally be like, you know. Mr. Worldwide? Yeah, Mr. Worldwide. Mr. 305. Mr. In your face. Like everything about him I'm obsessed with.

So I really enjoy doing men. And like the uglier I am, the uglier the wig. If I have a neck brace on, like the grosser and just the funnier it is to me. How did you get into comedy in the first place? Have you always been funny? Yeah, I was a funny kid. I was a funny kid. My family was just so were all type A alphas that I had to be like three steps ahead of the game

to compete even to like sit down at dinner. I keep up with my family, so I've just always had a funny kid. Where do you think that comes from? Probably my parents. My parents both had like a sick sense of humor, and it's funny. People ask me, like, where do you get your confidence? I just always live my life overly confident because I had to, you know? And it's funny.

What do you mean? Like, I just, I don't know. I get up and I like who I am, and I feel like so many people in this day and age compare themselves to everybody else on Instagram, where I think one of the reasons why my brand, or I hate even saying like my brand, but why people connect and engaged with me so much is because I'm all about like being honest and like being truthful. Like, you know, and nowadays everyone's like, oh, look at what I have. Look at what I'm doing. But I've always been like, what's good? I had to move back home with my mom. I'm 31. You know, hashtag thriving.

Okay, we have to talk about confidence because I feel like this is, this is kind of a hot topic on our podcast. How, I love how you say I like who I am. I'm not sitting on Instagram comparing myself to everyone else. It seems like you really stay in your own lane. Can you give someone who's maybe struggling with confidence some tips? You know, I have young women all the time to me messages, how do you do with confidence? And I'm like, listen, I really think I had a good relationship with my dad. I'm so

grateful for that. And he always told me, he was like, Heather, you're a McMahon, you can do anything. But you really just have to like who you are. At some point, you're like, fuck it. I can't be anybody else but me. So I got to get up every day and look myself in the mirror and be like, you got this, you can do it. I mean, look, I could compare myself being in the business.

Oh, my God, being a female actress in the business. Can't tell you how many times I've gone on auditions where literally the breakdown has said something like morbidly obese but beautiful. You know, if I took what everybody's, I know, and I'm like a normal size human, but that, in the entertainment business, I'm considered morbidly obese. And if I let that get to me. Morvedly obese. Oh, honey, that is like.

Anyone that's listening, go Google, Heather. She's stunning. You're not morbidly obese. But in the business, that's what it's considered. So there's so many times where, you know, being in this business and constantly getting rejected could affect me. But at the end of the day, I don't know if I'm just like a narcissist or what, but I'm like, I'm fucking fantastic.

So if you're not going to hire me, that's on you. And also, my parents were so savage. Like, again, because we're all type A and my sister's an attorney. My dad was a ballbuster. My mom's for Boston. Like, no director or producer could ever say anything to me

that my own parents haven't said to my face. You know, I didn't grow up with parents who were like, oh, honey, here's a participation. Oh, my God, Michael's going to have a tangent with this. Okay, I'm just going to step back from the eye. I think we're doing children a disservice. Oh, 100%. I'm in trouble all the time for saying that.

I think, like, there's no eighth, How do you say, eighth place? Eighth place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's bullshit. 10th place. You don't know. No, no, no, no, no.

Either win or you don't. And if you don't, it's like, hey, try harder next time and you might win the next time. Or figure out what you're good at. Like, my dad was like, Heather, you're too chunky for soccer. Like, you're huffing it up and down the field, you know? And I mean, I was like that junkie kid. He was just like trying to do the most. And so he was like, what do you love?

I'm like, I love to dance and I love theater. He's like, all right, let's focus on that. That's the smart dad, though, to take your strengths and zone in on that. I love the guitar. I love music, but I don't have an ounce of musical ability in there. It's like, I'm not going to get out there and be like, you know, my dad said I might be one day. And it's like, you know. And then my dad really wanted me to play professional golf because I was a good golfer going up.

But then my coach, you know, when I hit like my high school coach, I think I was junior year, I finally got like big boobs. And he had literally pulled my dad aside. And he was like, I don't know how to tell you this, but your daughter got tits over the summer. So I don't know if golf's going to be your thing because we got to readjust her swing. And my dad was like, all right. we're going on the next thing. You have to be realistic with what God gives you.

And I think that's a thing. Everybody's trying to like live outside their lane. And I'm like, okay, what am I good at? I'm good at being self-deprecating and funny. And I enjoy who I am. And I like making people feel good about themselves. And I like giggling. Like we have to, you know, you can't control what happens to you in your life.

You can only control your attitude. So if I can take that approach and make people laugh and, like, entertain people, then that's what I was put on this earth to do. I know that's cheesy. I always say it's all funny. People are like, God, you're mean to your husband. I'm like, it's all. jokes. It's all funny. It's all lighthearted. We don't take anything too seriously ever.

I want to know about, I feel like the comedy industry is so male-dominated. It really is. Yeah. So how do you come into that industry as a woman and I feel like you have masculine energy? I have masculine energy too. I love masculine energy and a woman. How do you come in with that energy and not ruffle feathers or are you ruffling feathers? It's interesting. I actually work really well with dudes because I am such a straight shooter. So you can tell me to my face, no, I don't like that. Let's do it again. You know, if you were on set. Like I don't, I really know how to compartmentalize that. But, you know, you also have to take everything. A lot of these, like, egotistical guys say with a grain of salt, you know, and you just have to play the game a little bit.

You know, and I'm not saying I'm a feminist and all those things, but I really think that sometimes you just got to be smart. As women, we have to think three steps ahead. And I don't get intimidated men in the comedy world. I really think there's space for everybody. You just got to be honest and truthful to what your brand is and what your point of view is. Everybody's gone through something different, especially as a comedian.

We're all telling our story from our point of view. So there's room for everybody. There really is. I am on mushy's. Mushrooms. I am deep in the mushrooms. Yeah, I like to call them mushies. I got that from Tara.

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And I think that they are held to a different standard because they can say whatever they want. And I'm hoping that I can use my voice to kind of like say what I want to say. You know? I want you to say whatever you want. Say whatever you want always. I think as women, we do have to be so careful sometimes. And it's bullshit. It is bullshit.

For me, like my, I kind of got to apprentice a little bit with Joan Rivers and she was like my end-all be-all. And yeah, she told me years ago when I first moved to L.A., I went up to her at a restaurant. Remember Dominic's? It was in Beverly Hills. So before it closed, I went in there, I was sitting, I just moved to L.A. I was eating at the bar, and she came in, and I knew her a little bit from the stand-up circuit in New York, really just as a fan. And I went up to her at her table, and I was like, Miss Rivers, I just want you to know, you're the reason why I do this. I'm obsessed with you, and thank you so much for being a pioneer.

She was so gracious, and it's always been so nice to comics. And she came up to me afterwards, and she said, I just want you to know you have hoods, but nobody else has the balls to do what you're doing, and I feel your energy, and you have great energy, and you're going to make it. And I got in my car, and I wept like a baby. And I called my dad. I was like, Joan said I'm going to make it. And that was like that pivotal moment in my life where I was like, you got to just be ballsy and steamroll ahead and do what you want to do. What do you think Joan did differently than other comics?

She didn't take no for an answer. And she was one of the, she was the pioneer for women saying all those things that we didn't think we could say. I mean, yeah, she was making, you know, she was talking about abortion and all those things that you shouldn't talk about, quote, unquote, back in the day. And she's some of the just. most sarcastic, hysterical, witty, just out of the box humor. And if you go back and, like, listen to some of her old stand-up, it's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant. Michael and I always talk on the show about how important it is to carve out your niche and ride

the niche. And I feel like she did that. You do that, too, on your Instagram stories. Do you have a strategy? Is there, like, or do you just wake up in the morning and say, this is what I'm in a post? Or I feel like posting about Brittany, like, what's that? There is no strategy.

Honestly, it's very organic for me. you know, because I have such a big background and improv, like that's literally how my brain thinks. It's always, you know, on my feet. Actually, I have a hard time when I have to sit down and write a script. Like, when I do my characters, it's always just out. I mean, I might have a concept or like an arc of the story for the day,

but I just kind of go with it. When you're formulating an act, like, do you see something that's funny and right away know there's a joke, or do you have to take time and process and then write it out? Like, how does that process look? Yeah, I mean, I think I'm so observant. I'm always watching what's going,

on always. So, I mean, I write things down, and I'm not just a stand-up. You know, I haven't done stand-up in a hot second. I'm going to get back into the market now, which is, you know, I took some time off, so that's going to be a very humbling grind again. But yeah, when you see something funny, you just kind of make note of it, and then it's, you know, writing a joke is basically, the punchline is always something that people don't expect. Okay. So that's how you write comedy, you know, you just, what do you see and then twist it? What, you know, if you tell something that somebody's going to expect, then that's not funny. But if you, throwing a zinger, you know, they're like, oh, I didn't see that coming.

I never thought of it like that. Yeah. So every time you want to go for something that they wouldn't think that they were going to laugh at. Or just like how you write punchlines and the button to a joke. It's just you never see. Whatever you're finishing with, like the punchline is just not what they thought, what they expected. Got it. Okay.

I hope I'm doing that justice. Did you learn to do that or was it something that again just came natural? I think it's just you. It's just natural. It's natural. Okay. Well, what if there's someone out there that's listening and they want to get into comedy. Do they have to be naturally

funny? No, but I think you have to be observant and you have to like love you have to love comedy. You know, you have to be one of those people who's always trying to find the quirkiness or the awkwardness in situations. So you have to be observant, like I said. And if you're wanting into comedy, I'd say take a

stand-up comedy class, take an improv class, go to UCB, go to Second City. You know, in every city they have a major comedy, you know, the comedy store, the punchline or any of those places. Just take a class and just try it. And really, you know, I don't know, If you're naturally funny, you know if you're naturally funny. But I'm the kind of person like, I make myself laugh.

You know what I mean? I don't know. Like, I literally can sit around and like, I don't mind hanging by myself. And I'm like, I can just make myself laugh all day, you know? Just, I don't know. It's that inner monologue with myself. What I love about comedy is you could take the darkest things or the hardest moments and you could turn it into laughter, which there's an art to that.

But, you know, they say laughter is the best medicine. And I feel like comics do such a good job of taking things that are traumatic and turning them on their head. I mean, listen, they always say there's two types of comics. There's people who come from really dark place and then just genuinely joyful people. I do think I'm a genuinely joyful person. But listen, I mean, I watched my dad die of cancer almost three years ago. And I had kind of lived a picture perfect life, right?

Never really had any struggles growing up. And coming out of that darkness came the funniest shit I think I've ever written in my life. And even just like, I mean, I'm writing, hopefully writing a TV show right now about, you know, watching somebody die of cancer. Like, it was just the funniest shit. Even my dad had a sense of humor in the hospital while he's dying. Like, what's an example of how you can take something dark like that and make it into something funny? Well, my dad was a big guy, and I'd take after him, like, brought shoulders as a son he never had.

And when my dad got cancer, I mean, literally my dad was like, you know, if we needed to, you know, those giant Crystal Springs, five-gallon jugs. Like, I was the one who always had to carry it upstairs to my parents. He's in a room. He's like, God damn, Heather, grabbed two of those things. I'm like, Dad, I'm like, 11 years old. I can't carry these giant jugs. But when my dad was dying, he lost a lot of weight,

and he was such a big dude, and he pulled me aside in the hospital. He was like, hey, listen, you know you're built like me, right? I was like, you're right, Daddy goes, if you start getting skinny, you're probably dying, okay, honey, so don't lose any weight. It's a bad sign. So literally, I'm always like, oh, I don't want to get too thin because I'm probably dying.

You have to laugh at this shit. You cannot control what happens to you, right? And just, even the stuff after my dad died, oh, my God, like, going through grief, grief is so funny if you, like, take a step back. It was almost like an outer body experience for me. Like the funeral dynamics and everything. My dad's funeral was like the funniest thing I've ever been to in my life.

One of his friends from high school came up and he was so stoned. And we had like 600 people at the funeral. This guy was so high. He was a popular dude. Yeah, he was a popular dude. And so we cremated my dad because when he died, he was so distent. Like he had put on so much fluid from the cancer. And he died in Texas.

Okay, here's another thing. Try to get a body from Texas back to Atlanta. Forget it. It was a shit show. What do you do with that? Oh, it's like a whole thing. And my sister's an attorney, thank God, she took care of it. So my dad had already bought his burial plot for, like, our whole family, right?

Because that's what you do in the South. You're like, buy a plot of land where you're going to bury your family. And the lady at the funeral home is like, you know, I don't know how to tell you this, but we're going to need an extra large casket for your dad and your part. That's going to encrouch on your mom's burial plot. My mom's like, so you're telling me that my extra large husband needs a big and tall casket. She's like, over my dead body and his. She's like, what can we do?

We're cremating him. She's like, your father would come back and haunt us if we gave you, you know, a plus-sized casket, basically. So we ended up cremating him and his friends were so high at the funeral that one of his buddies came up and he's like, how do I say bye to your dad? I was like, hey, Mike, he's in that urn. He's like, wait, I don't understand. Where's the body? I'm like, he was torched two days ago. He's there.

So if you want to say goodbye, just, I don't know, hug the urn. I don't know what to tell you. You know, it's just like such an outer body experience. So you have to really, in the darkest times, I think it's actually you find the most laughter and the brightest light, if that makes sense. You said you're writing a show on, it's on death. Well, I want to write a show about grief

because I think a lot of people don't talk about, especially in your 30s. You don't know how to approach it, right? Yeah, like, I mean, how? Everybody's like, oh, I have my life together, have my life together. Or when you've dealt with grief, it's when you were young

or, you know, when you're older and you expect your parents die. My dad died at like 57, pretty young. From cancer, we didn't even know he had. I mean, from the day of diagnosed to the day of death, it was a week. So I'm writing a show. So I'm writing a show really.

Yeah. So when people, that's even another thing when people are like, oh, we relate because your dad died of cancer. I'm like, I don't even feel like we had a fighting chance. You know, I feel bad because I can't really relate to people who went through chemo and went through all those things. You know, I basically am. That's a grueling process watching that.

Oh, for sure. And I'm grateful that my dad passed quickly, but it's also just this weird thing where, like, where do you fit in when you talk about grief? So the show that I really want to write, though, is about the process of me coming home. And, like, here I was, like, you know, hustling in L.A.

and then to come home back to Atlanta, literally at 30, moving back in with my mom just to figure shit out. You know, and I joined, like, a bridge club at my mom's country club, because I was like, well, if I'm going to, like, party with these 65-year-olds, I'm going to do it right, you know? And, like, I drink Chardonnay, every day of four.

Like, I'm kind of thriving at home, you know? It's been hard, but I also think that I want just a female-driven show about, like, what it's like to be, you know, in this situation. I love that idea. I think that is, like, genius. And it's not just about sad shit. It's just about how you readjust your life, right?

So right now at this moment, are you in New York for fun or do you live here? Well, I'm moving back to New York. Okay. Yeah, the Italian Stallion lives here. We want to hear about the Italian Stallions. Yes, yes. I mean, he's just the cutest. So we, I'm probably either moving at the end of the year or first thing in January.

Okay, is the Italian stallion funny? Oh, he's so funny. Does he let you have center stage or is it like a fighting? 100%. And if he didn't, this wouldn't work. Okay. So funny. We met years ago when I was doing improv and stand-up.

Jeff, you know, he just finished grad school, but he was working a corporate job at the time, and he would show up to, like, my comedy shows and a suit, and he'd be on the front row and laugh at everything because he just, he's like my number one fan, and that's the way every relationship should be. And people always thought he was my manager, and they're like, your manager's so young and handsome. I'm like, that's my boyfriend, but, you know, he would just always be front row, like, just cheering me on. Talk to me about that.

You just said that's how every relationship should be. I totally agree with you. I think that it's so important to marry a teammate. and someone that you actually like. Yes. That's important. People don't say that. It is.

It seems like a pretty simple concept, but there's a lot of misfires out there. A lot of misfires. I know so many women that want to get away from their husband. And I'm like, we have to leave each other for a week. And we're both like, what do we're so used to be. We love to be around each other. 100%. And I feel, I mean, I had a great example because my parents were madly in love with each other.

And my mom was the original cougar. My mom was 11 years older than my dad. Ooh, I like it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Mom. Oh, yeah. Mom was, like, thriving in Miami, like, looking for the young guys. Whoa, Mom.

Yes. And so when I met Jeff, honestly and truly, I'm, like, basically marrying my father, which is great because I had a great relationship with him. But, like, even down to, like, what Jeff eats for breakfast, I'm like, oh, shit, this is what my dad does. But, yeah, I think that your partner has to be your fan. Like, if you're not rooting for each other, what are you doing? And we've been together seven, it'll be eight years in February, and we've been long

distance. And Jeff has always been my cheerleader. Like, I was living in a year. New York and I was like, listen, baby, I got to go to L.A. And he's like, I want you to get that out of your system and I want you to do that because I don't want you to ever think that I held you back, you know? And so now he's here and you're moving in together? Yes.

Oh, for sure. Have you ever lived together? No, we haven't lived together. And his mom seems to think that that's going to be like, you know, like that's going to break it. Okay, let me ask the dynamics. Are you moving into his house or you guys finding a house together? No, we're finding a place together. Okay, everyone that's listening.

That's the way to do it. I think that's the way to do it and I'll tell you why. I had a beautiful place. Lauren kicked me out of it. I said, nope, we're going somewhere else. He had the most beautiful penthouse, like, gorgeous situation. And he goes, well, you're going to move in here, right? And I go, fuck no.

Good for you. We're moving into our own house. I don't care if it's smaller. All I care about is light and no carpet. Right. Like, light and no carpet. I need to take a selfie on no carpet. Yeah.

And I'm good. Right. And so I wanted to move in a space with him because I felt like if I moved into his space, it would have been like, hey, yo, your towels on my floor. Exactly. And I just couldn't do that. I think everyone that's listening, even if you have to downgrade, move in together and make it an equal situation. Absolutely.

In my opinion. In New York, though, where are you looking? I don't think there's any such thing as me having any equal kind of say in any of this. But it's basically like, we're moving out and you're doing what I'm saying. I said, okay, well. But it's sweet that you think it's equal. Our walk-in pantry is a museum. This is why I miss L.A. so much.

We're looking at apartments now. And, like, you know, when you move in New York, you literally have to show up like the day before you want to get the keys. Why? Because that's how quickly things move in New York. It just go quick. It just goes so quick. It's similar in L.A., not as bad as here, but...

Yeah, and you have to show with, like, you know, a DNA sample, your W-2 is, like, everything to the point where they're like... A bag of money. Yeah, a bag of money, you know, gifts for the children of the landlord. Like, it's so aggressive, it's unbelievable. So you can't really get your heart, you know, set on anything. But it's so sad. Like, we have a very healthy budget, and I'm just like my one qualification is I just want to be able to get a king-sized bed in a room. You know, even into these luxury buildings, like, that's actually a luxury.

You need good light, though, for your Instagram stories, too. Exactly. You love good light. Good light is all that matters nowadays. Nothing else matters. You can live in a shoe. Yeah. But I'm like, he and I can not fit in a smaller bed than a king-sized bed together.

So I'm like, Jeff, we just need a king-sized bed. But that's New York. So for me, it's very claustrophobic going back from, like, L.A. and Atlanta, back to New York, where, you know, man, you are living the good life if you're in, like, 800 square feet. So. I want to know about. the tips that you have for writing because I know as a blogger it's sitting down to actually write is for me it's like I put it to the absolute last fucking second right and then I'll write at 1130 at night and all day I'll be thinking about it but I can't like and that's probably not

I'm a procrastinator too okay so you procrastinate yes do you write at night oh I've fully come alive at 1130 okay my best most creative hours are from probably yeah 1130 to about 4 a.m If you get me up at eight, I could have seven ice coffees. That's not how my brain thinks. But my dad was the same way. I am my father's daughter, but literally, like, that is just when I come alive. What's the process when you're sitting down to write? Because usually I get in bed, and then I'm flooded with all these ideas,

and then I just have to get up, and I just have to go for it. Are any of them based off your Instagram stories? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they always say, write what you know, right? You have to write from experience. You have to write from truth. So yeah What were you like in high school?

I'm curious Honestly, I was student body president I was one of those You know what I mean? I went to the same school A very intense Christian school From like kindergarten through 12th grade So I knew everyone

But I was like in theater But also like cool you know And like did cheerleading and shit like that I was pretty well rounded I want to bring this full circle And just talk about your breakdown Of Britney's breakdown Can you like just explain how you did that on your highlights

for anyone that wants to go watch this? Because it was insane. What was the motivation behind this? Yeah, what's go? I need like more info on this. Okay, basically real talk. I was super hungover on a Sunday and I was just scrolling through Britney's Instagram

and I got like so much anxiety looking at all these celebrities commenting on her acting like her behavior was normal. I'm like, why are we going to actually sit down and address this? So I casually made a comment on Instagram like, are you guys seeing what I'm saying? and everybody just flooded in. They were like, we've been thinking this for years.

We totally agree. So it was finally like, I think I just kind of had to say it. You know, I was a whistleblower for the fact that all these, like, herself and Lindsay Lohan and all these people are clearly giving cries for help on the internet. So when you say cries for help, what are some ways that you think that she's crying for help? Because you got so specific in this breakdown of her. Okay, specifically, she was doing these runway fashion videos in her house. and it's like she's got her bad extensions hanging out, like three-day-old makeup,

and she's in these tight bandaged dresses. It's clearly, it's clear that she is the one recording it and setting it to like really shitty music. And I'm thinking, where's her PR people? You know? So, and by the way, I just want to like tell everyone out there, you're not coming from a hateful space. No, I'm obsessed with Britney.

She's not making fun of her. You're like, you're actually wondering what's going on if there's something behind the scenes we're not seeing. Yeah, it was just kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are we all acting like this is totally normal? behavior when she's clearly like speedballing out of her mind right now. You know what I mean? For somebody who is such a professional performer with the crazy makeup and like, you know, looking like she just rolled out of T.J. Max. I'm like,

what's going on? So, I mean, I'm a huge Britney fan. Always have been. So it really was just kind of like, ooh, what's happening here? Honestly, you look like Britney when Britney was like slave for you. I'm dying. That's like the nicest thing. Do people say, tell you that? No, I get a lot of people. It's a range of people. I really mostly get Stiffler. mom, Jennifer Coolidge. Yes. I often get her. I get a Blair from the facts of life. Okay. Yeah.

You do. You resemble Brittany a little bit. I mean, I can see it. I really appreciate that. We're both from the South, so I think I give up that, like, Southern Hospitality vibe. Do you ever do an impression of Britney? No, I haven't, but I need to start working on it. Yeah, we need you to break down Britney with your impression of Britney. I could absolutely do that. And the thing is, she really has, like, a deep register. Her vocal range is very deep. And so the more I started delving in to, to like what's actually going on with Brittany,

the more I realize how her brand is essentially manipulated her and changed her over the years. And I really think she, like her normal speaking voice is probably down here like mine. Paris Hultons is the same way. Oh, Paris. Well, Paris is, I think, is the one who started stirring the pot. Oh, so we're going back to like 2001.

Okay, let's really break this down. Okay. What's the two things that Lindsay and Brittany have in common? They used to be besties with Paris. Wow. That's true. Yeah. And when Brittany started getting a little crazy, she was partying with Paris.

Yeah. Paris seems like she's doing just fine, though. Paris is doing just fine. I have to, like, just shout this out. Paris pulled me in the bathroom when I was 21 and tried to make out with me. This is a true story. I know I've never told it on the podcast. She pulled me in the bathroom.

I'll never forget this. I was such a big Paris Hilton fan. I was wearing one of those fake Dior Bags with Dior, Dior, Dior, Dior. Absolutely. Go on. I was wearing a pink latex mini skirt. Good for you. The blondeest of blonde hair.

Like thinking I was Paraselton. Right. And I ran into her in L.A. club, and I was in L.A. just for the night. I lived in San Diego. So this was, like, a major deal. Right. And she pulled me in the big stall with her. And we peed together, and all she said was, you're hot.

That's hot. That's hot. That's hot. Kind of went in for a kiss and then pulled me to her table. Okay. And then I have another Parasolent story that I just remembered. What? I smoked weed with her at her house.

Did she drink? Did she drink? Did she remember that? No, she didn't try to kiss me this time. This, another time, I can't. What's going on here? How many stories you got? I've never heard of any of these stories.

Maybe I'm going to have a Britney Lindsay breakdown. Wait, I just remember, okay, so. It's all coming back. It's happening now. Harrison Ford had a son, hey Malcolm, and he brought my friend and I to her house, and she was smoking a huge blunt eating in and out, and we smoked a blunt together. And that was when I was 19.

So maybe that's why, like, she pulled me in the bathroom. I don't know. Yeah, I just remember that. Well, I've heard that apparently there was a little love triangle between Brittany and Lindsay. Sorry, Brittany, Lindsay and Paris. And apparently Paris went for Brittany. Who are you going for? I think I'm terrified at Paris, honestly.

I'm going for Brittany out of all three. Yeah, I'm going for Britney. Yeah, oh, who I'd want to make out with? Oh, for sure, Brittany. Yeah, I'm going for Britney. Yeah, she's got like just, you know, I think it's sweet. Who are you going for, babe? I think I'm going for Britney, too.

You're going for Britney? Yeah, what the hell? Why are you going for anyone? Well, you know. You can go for Brittany. In this scenario. That was a trick question. You can go for someone.

Yeah, I'm going for it. It's too late now. Yeah. But apparently there was a trist between, like, Paris and Lindsay were fighting over Britney is what I've allegedly heard, okay? And then that's why Paris and Lindsay still hate each other. Oh. Because Paris got Brittany and Lindsay didn't get ready.

But Lindsay got Sam Ronston? Yes, but I mean, are you going to fight for Sam? I'm not. No, no, no, I'm fighting for Britney. I'm fighting for Britney. Okay. But that is interesting that that's the. common denominator.

It's Brittany, bitch. It's Britney bitch. It really is. God, I want women fighting for me, you know? I've never dipped in the Lady Pond, but I feel like I need more power lesbians trying to like, you know, beat down my door. Michael and I just had a podcaster, or

not a podcaster, a writer on, that writes about how... Wednesday, Martin, have you heard of her? I haven't. She wrote this book called Primates, Park Avenue Primates. Okay. And she writes about how a lot of women are actually having more affairs than men.

Really? And they're having affairs with women. She backs it up with scientific studies. So, like, a lot of women are late in life lesbians. So I'm thinking if Michael's doing something weird, you never know. She calls them pussy whispers. A plot twist. That was our first question, or we said, what is a pussy whisperer?

She writes all about it. You never know. Honestly, I love that. I want to get that on a T-shirt, just pussy whisper. Lead with fear. I've had at least three of my girlfriends in their, you know, we're in our early 30s come out. Really? And it's not necessarily, and I know.

this is like writing a fine line, but they're like dating women now. And they say like, oh, I'd go back to men, or I, but I'm really in love with a woman right now. So I don't necessarily know if they're full on lesbian. I don't know, because I hate to like categorize someone, but I don't know how that works, but I have two girlfriends who are now dating women. I think

women have become turned off because of men's behavior on dating apps. That's my theory. Like, we don't need to see your abs in the mirror with like, with your protein powder in the corner and like... I'm actually not attracted and it's not throwing Jeff under the bus, but I've never been attracted to like super ripped ab dudes.

Because I'm like, okay, the amount of time that you could spend in the gym, you could also spend at work making more money. Is Jeff Barry ripped? He's, we're both top-heavy. You know what I mean? He's got broad shoulders. He's got the best legs and ass you've ever seen. But, you know, he's a little tender in the middle, you know?

And that's why I like him. Okay. He in the gay world would be considered a bear, I believe. We had a whole podcast about this as well, bears and the otters. You might be an otter or a seal. No, he's not, actually. Really? It was between an otter and a dad.

Yeah, I've still, there's a lot that I don't understand. Like a daddy daddy, like a, like a, like a, I didn't, I don't know what a zaddy daddy is. Yeah, what's a zaddy daddy? It isn't, well, a sugar daddy. I just feel like everyone says zaddy now. It's not a sugar daddy. But listen, all these things, pussy whispers, daddy's otters. I'm learning as I go.

Right, right. You're whatever we say you are. Heather, what is a book, a resource, a podcast that you recommend to our audience? It could be something inspirational, self-care, something funny, anything that you would recommend that they can go pick up and read or watch or listen to. Okay, well, one of my favorite comedians, his name's Theo Vaughn.

Oh, my God. I'm obsessed with Theo. He's the best. Do you know him? He's Michael's favorite. We went to see a friend of ours at a stand-up, and Theo, we didn't know about Theo at the time,

and he came and performed. Shout out to Dana and Annabelle. Yeah. And he was formed like 30 people, and immediately I went home and watched his Netflix special and I started to listen to his podcast. For some reason, I knew you were going to say that was one of the favorite.

And I'm trying to get him to come on this show. Oh my God, well, let me be a fly on the wall for that. I am obsessed with him in the way. He is fucking hilarious. And I just love that his podcast, so his podcast is called This Past Weekend, but he just has such a stream of consciousness. And he just has a, like a giggly, goofy personality.

But he also talks about serious shit. And as a comedian, I enjoy breaking down serious stuff, but also, like, bringing a positive spin on it, too. I find him hysterical and really entertaining. I feel like he's really, like, blowing up right now, too. totally blowing up. Yeah, I think he's going to be the next huge comic. Absolutely. You actually remind me

it's really funny that you said him because I was thinking right when we started, you remind me of him but a woman. Like you guys have similarities. You do. Well, and the thing is, he is such a good representation for the South too, and he talks about it a lot on his podcast, like, especially being in this industry, we're so sick and tired of people portraying the South

as we're a bunch of, like, Trump supporter idiots, you know? And just he always talks about that, like being in Hollywood and how we're trying as Southerners trying to tell those honest stories about people from the South and we're not a bunch of, you know, ignorant idiots. I'm going to listen to his podcast. Everyone says it's so good.

It's amazing. I got to listen to it. Yeah, he's incredible. Okay, Heather, we'll be waiting for your podcast that's breaking down Brittany. I hope it's coming soon. It will be coming out. Don't worry. If not your show, I agree. It's coming. Where can everyone find you pimp yourself out? On Instagram at Heather K. McMahon. It's okay for like Kardashian. And if someone's new and they want to like watch the highlights, where should they start with Brittany?

There's part one, two, three, four. Yeah, start at the beginning, right? Let's not miss anything. And then, um... You break it all down. I break it all down. Yeah, and then get really deep. I love when people get deep into that feed.

I got deep. It was Sunday. I was hung over and someone told me to watch. I thought I was going to watch like a couple stories. I was like, oh my God, this girl is so good. I couldn't look away. Listen, I'm just honored and flattered that people are tuning in. I'm literally recording this live from my mom's basement kind of situation.

Stay humble in the meantime. And I love when I get a like, like, 62 weeks. You know, prior, I'm like, oh, yeah, they're in it. Those memes, you've got to be careful, like, not to accidentally like 62 weeks back. But I'll follow them right back. Like, if somebody's that deep, I'm like, oh, they're in it, I'll follow you back. You know what I mean? I want to show you love to.

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