The Bossticks - #21: Porn, Online Dating, Watermelon Jerky, & The Pressure of Social Media

Episode Date: July 26, 2016

Jordan Bosstick & Taylor O'Conner join Lauryn & Michael, to talk about guys who watch porn, online dating, drunk girls at weddings, the pressure of social media, watermelon jerky, bad lighting, and the biggest sacrifices you make in order to help grow your career. To learn more about The Skinny Confidential visit the site HERE To connect with Lauryn click HERE To connect with Michael click HERE

The following program is a podcast 1.com presentation. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you alone for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

Aha. Hi, everybody. This is the bare naked cucumber coming live. Not coming, but coming at you. Hi, everyone. It's the Skinny Confidential, him and her podcast with Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic coming at you from Podcast 1 in Beverly Hills. Thank you guys so much for subscribing on iTunes and all of the great ratings and reviews. We really appreciate it.

So much so that we even brought the bare naked cucumber up because we appreciate it so much. I'm Lauren Everett's, blogger, author, and lover of watermelon jerky. And I'm always late. Like, I just can't get it together. And I'm Michael Bostic, entrepreneur, Chihuahua Whisperer, Failed In. NBA, NFL, PJ, and MMA athlete, Lauren Sex Slave, Alarm Clock, and Head of Complaints Department. And let me tell you the complaints have been piling in this week. Yes, they have.

Thank you guys for listening. It's been an amazing journey. As you know, we started out in our living room with a couple of hundred bucks. I would actually say it was more like 50 bucks, if we're being honest. And we had this idea to talk. Are you talking about the equipment? That's what I'm talking about it. I don't know how much the equipment was.

That was on your Amazon bill. God. And we just had no experience and we're learning as we go. But most importantly, we're really excited because we have the Bar-Naked cucumber back. He is back. And we also have Jordan. Jordan's my sister. She works with us. Helps us stay organized. Fields the questions that come in from the readership and listenership on a weekly basis. She helps us pick the best ones. And she's also the chief mediator. She's in charge just in case Lauren and I decide to get in a fight during the show. She will jump in the middle and put us down. to it. I am ready to go. So Taylor's here. As you guys know, Taylor works for Michael. We call him

the bare naked cucumber. That's a long story. If you want to hear it, go back a few podcasts. Maybe we'll tell it again today. He was our sound guy, but now we have Kevin. No offense, I'm into Kevin more than you for sound. And yeah, so Taylor drove up today at 538 in the morning. If you were wondering exactly what time, you can check his Instagram at Tails, you die. Is that right? He was the sound guy. He wheezzled his way onto the show. He couldn't. He, he He got 16 Snapchat followers, so he's now Snapchat famous, and he decided that he could not miss the show up here in L.A. So he got on the road at 5.30.

He's got the shakes right now from drinking too much coffee. How are you feeling over there? I feel like a shaky bridge, an old one. A shaky bridge. I've never heard anyone compare themselves to a shaky bridge. Shaky bridge, okay. You decided to wear a matching T-shirt or a shirt with me today, which is... It's cute.

You look like the twin emojis. You guys are totally twinning. It's cute. So yeah, first before we start the show, I would just really like to know where Tales You Die came from. Like, what's the screen name like? Give us a little. Tails you die. Actually, I don't know. I just made it up. Because if you think about flipping a coin, it's heads you lose, tails you die. Neither one are very good options.

But I have a nickname called Tails, and I just added that. Well, now that you're on the dating scene, you may want to consider changing it to something other than Tails you die. Yeah, you're probably right. The other one was May Cause Death, which I don't think is much about it right. Is your username on Bumble Tales You Die? No, I don't think there is. I think it's just the name is what it comes out to as far as the title. So as you guys know, if you listen to a couple episodes back, Taylor broke up with his girlfriend,

but he is ready to be single and ready to mingle. And he is on Bumble and Tinder. No, not Tinder, Bumble. Tinder is 2014. You have something against Tinder? No, I just don't think it's, I think it's fake, actually. You think it's fake? You were just telling me before the show that you like to slide left, right?

No, no, not slide left. Okay, so I did a test, and I just went wild, and I was, you know, watching a TV show and just swiped right on almost every single one and never got a match. So either I'm ugly or it's a fake. Wait, I don't understand how Tinder works. Can you explain it to me? So if you go, or it's Tinder and Bubble, the same thing. So if you go left, you're not interested. And if you go right, that means you're interested in some degree.

but I just think just the rule of, you know, probability. Wait, some degree does that mean like you would have sex with her? You want to date her? You want to take her like to meet your mom? Like, can you be more? What I mean some degree is you're looking at one picture and you're making a snap judgment. So it depends you either go, eh, you know, she's okay. Or, whoa, that's probably both a swipe right.

It's the ones that you go, ugh, that's the left. Okay. So thank God you're not single anymore, Michael. We wouldn't want you sliding right. No. I don't even know how to get back in the dating scene. I've been locked down for eight years. Right now, I haven't been sliding anywhere.

Oh my gosh. And on that note. So girls, if you see them out there, give them a little right. Wait, what's your username so girls can find you? I don't think there is. I think it's like it's anonymous. It's random. It's just, it has to happen.

Like you bump into someone. Did you update that? Because you had a picture of yourself when you were like 18 years old when we were in high school. Did you end up changing that? Yeah, we deleted that one. Okay. We need some new headshots for you. That and I removed the poem about the heart.

Good. I feel like I have to approve your defaults before they go live. Can you send them to me? Send me like a couple, like a couple so I can choose like one, two, or three. I need a couple choices. That's probably why I've got no matches. Oh, okay. Well, anyway, we are up in L.A.

We were up here last weekend. We're podcasting. Very exciting last week because we met Shaq. And not like, the reason that I bring this up is not to, brag. It's just to say that Shaq is the nicest celebrity I've ever met in my life. Like, how humble was he? Yeah, he was super nice. I was so, like, I didn't see him. Then all of a sudden I turned around and there was the biggest human I've ever seen in my entire life in front of me. And he, um, he put his hand out to shake. And I felt like a small boy. Like, I felt like I was three years old. Your hand fit in the

palm of his hand? No, I mean, my hand was enveloped in the palm of his. It was like a baseball glove. You looked like a little tick next to him. Yeah. Um, anyway, so he was. So he was, he was, was so nice. I don't know how other to explain it. And then he was so humble and so nice. He was so starstruck by me, though. I mean, he couldn't get over it. Oh, my God. I can't. So we went back from L.A. to San Diego to go to a wedding and the traffic was atrocious. Michael complained about it for about three, four, five days. He's still complaining about it. I can't stand it anymore. I'm losing it. Like, we were there. We're stuck in traffic all day long. I mean, what's going on with L.A.?

People, like, I feel like people are getting worse. They don't know how to drive up here. Just, I mean, anything, somebody's pulled over to take a leak or something, and everyone has to slow their car down. And then we get back in the pride parade is going on. So all the streets are on lockdown. And the first thing I see is a guy running around in a diaper and nipple clamps. I got in a fight with a cop.

That was Tails You Die. Seriously. Taylor, was that you? No, nipple clamps or the diaper, baby. Seriously, I feel like we need a hashtag never forget for your traffic story. If I hear it one more time. I think I've heard it in every language. I've heard it every day.

I think Nico's here in the studio. Nico's going to pop some champagne for us. And Nico's heard it about 600 times. We get it. You were in traffic. So moving on from that. The wedding was super fun. Jordan was there.

You looked hot. Thank you. I was excited about that. I think the dress was super Kim K. If I'm just going to like pat myself on the back on that one. What brand was that? Ooh, I don't know. You guys, she was wearing the cutest.

dress that was like square sleeves. It was very like militant, but in the best way. Yeah, and it was also kind of masculine, but it was very feminine at the same time, which I love contrast so much. And this dress was just insane. I had to have an alterationist sew the front like a little bit closer because when I first bought it, my boobs were like way too out. And I was like, this is not working for me. So sew that up. And then I asked her to borrow it and asked her if I could undo the part where she sewed it up because I like a super lovey. And Lauren's dress was a low-cut dress that doesn't fit her properly.

It needs to be tailored. And her fun bags were flopping out all over during the wedding party. And there was designer tape everywhere. This is kind of like the traffic store. You've told this and talked about this for about two years. What happens when you put one of those dresses around? Like, yeah, this will look good. The dress where my tits flop out every second will be the best.

That'll be the good choice. They didn't flop out every second. You guys, I was wearing nippies and I was wearing fashion tape. And you were having a full-blown meltdown. But then girls get upset when someone does look like, how dare you? But what's the purpose? My nipple might have been on the tray. Let's not jump in with your perviness right now.

You're getting really pervy lately. We're up back for a minute ago in here. He's popping looks. No, it's one of those scenarios where they go, oh, don't look at that. And the human reaction is to look. It's like when someone says, don't look into the sun. It's going to blind you. And you go, what?

You literally at breakfast mentioned Lauren's buttons popping open like six times. Yeah, you're nervous. You've got to see this thing. It looks like a man's trousers It's going to shoot out and go bouncing around the restaurant. I'm wearing a really cute body suit that's a button up, you guys, and it happens to be white, and Taylor was copying a couple of looks today at Brett Fitts,

and Michael was getting a little pissed. Yeah, how do you feel about that? I was just investigating to make sure it wasn't going to declan. He's not getting enough swipe right, so he can take a look. That's fine. You're such a good friend. Come on, just let him look, man. He deserves a look.

So, yeah, wedding was fun, and there was a drunk girl there. Yes, there was. We always have that one drunk girl. Before we talk about the drunk girl, though, can we talk about my dad and how absurd he's getting? So my dad's at the wedding. It's a family friend that's getting married. And literally the first moment the ceremony is over, he starts complaining to anybody with an ear about how there's not enough bars. I just had a wedding at the house.

We had so many bars. You can't get a drink. I'm like, Dad, you've got to calm down, man. Like, he's getting so bad. And we're just sitting there. And I'm just watching this guy have a full meltdown over not getting a drink. And he's literally, the bride and groom just got married. Everyone's saying congratulations.

He's going up and complaining about the bar. It's unbelievable. He actually was asleep with his eyes open. He's mastered that. And the drunk girl was talking to him, and he was still asleep with his eyes open. The drunk girl was all over the place. She sat on my lap at one moment, I feel. The red wine was literally flying out of her glass and she was swinging it around.

I was like in the splash zone. I was scared. The splash zone. You know, it's fine to be the drunk girl once in a while. Sometimes you just got to let loose. Just keep your shoes on. I can't stand when girls take their shoes off. It's like a pet peeve. Don't take your shoes off. So very Britney Spears 2000 gas station look. But remember that one time I took my shoes off in Spain? It was like five years ago. And I was having a meltdown? You had a meltdown. One time I took my shoes. shoes off and Jordan has not let me live it down. You can't take your shoes off, especially in the

streets of Ibiza. I entirely agree with you, but it was one moment in time, and it was five years ago, and I was having a little too much fun. I'll forgive you. Okay, I'll never do it again. Thank you. Okay, so, yeah, that was our weekend. I would love for the bare naked cucumber to, like, kind of share his weekend, because I feel like there's, like, a lot of stuff going on. Well, there's two things. So I don't know if you guys know this or not, maybe through Lauren or Michael Snapchat, but I'm training for something called the Better Body Contest, 2016. And I've been in the gym a lot trying to... Well, hold on, hold on.

This contest is between you and one other guy in my office, and you guys are literally fighting for last and second to last place in the office. That's because Michael thinks... It's a fake contest. It's between two people, and basically at the end of the month, we're going to snap your bodies up. I'm going to just... The one guy is a really good-looking guy.

So what we're going to do is we're going to put the emojis, and we're going to zoom in. so it covers the faces, and then we're going to show your bodies. And I'm going to let Snapchat be the judge of who wins. You need to tan that thing up, though. I actually think I am going to go get a spray tan. You are as white as paper. I know.

It's horrific. And you're hairy. Or horrendous. Not horrific. You remind me of that movie powder. Ooh, I don't know about that. That's a little too white. If you guys want a good laugh, watch Snapchat while we're at the office,

because we've been doing these like push-up competitions with Taylor and the other guy. Can I say his name? No, no. It's not with the other guy. It's just Taylor doing push-up. ups by himself. The other guy forfeits every time. You said you could get to 50 the other day and you didn't even get past 25. No, it's because you guys are making me laugh. So, your face was so red. I've never seen. You were like a strawberry. Wait, wait. Can we get into this? Because then I started

snapping him and the next day he saw the snaps and he came in and I snapped him again. And he said, if I ever snapped him and zoomed in in his face again, he was going to fucking quit. That's usually I'm going to fucking quit. It's because the way he zoomed in. Yeah, it started out good until the very end. When he zoomed in, I looked like like an obese pack. man. So now every time I come in the office with my phone, he runs into the bathroom and starts combing his hair because he thinks he's going to be on Snapchat. Hey, you just, you never know who's watching. So I like to try to look my best as always. We know you have hair gel in the bathroom at the office with a comb. Yeah, just in case. I mean, you never know.

So I- You never know when an impromptu push-up contest and Snapchat's going to. No, but that wasn't a contest just by myself. Weston was like, oh yeah, you know, maybe I'll do it. So I got down and did it and then he just said, eh, I'm not going to do it. I want to hear about your weekend, though, like with Bumble and Tinder. Like, what's going on? So I went on a date with the girl and it's, she's awesome. She's actually really cool. She listened to the podcast, so shout out.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. She's awesome and really cool and she listens to the podcast. So, like, you have to say she's awesome and cool. No, no, no, she actually is awesome and cool, I guess. Is this why you got up at 530 morning to get on the show? No, no, this is nothing to do. I got it because I want to be an active member of the team. So, actually, no, I woke up at 4.30, set an alarm, went to bed at 9, which is very rare if anybody knows me.

But no, so I went on the date, but the thing is, is this, it was probably as far as, like, Tinder goes or not Tinder, but Bumble, I'm the type of person who, when I, I like meeting someone face to face or I'm very, I've got, what is it, high standards. So the fact of these, these apps where you see one picture and you throw a little excerpt. about themselves. It's kind of hard to really get into that. So I don't really ever take it very seriously in any sense. And this is the first time I've ever actually hung out with someone on it. It's good to talk about this because we've actually had a lot of questions come in about dating apps and how to use it. And it's hard for Lauren and I to give really hands-on advice on this because we're both not in the dating scene, hopefully, unless you have some kind of secret bumble account. I miss this whole like online dating app thing too. No, it's the reason is different.

What do you mean you miss it? No, I missed it. Yeah, because I've, Nico and I've been together for five years. So I feel like it came out after that. So I never, speaking of Nico, Nico's going to pop the champagne like Jeeves right now. So if you guys hear a pop, that's the champagne. My friend Weston, who you guys have seen, if you watch Snapchat, is so absurd. He's like, listen, man, we're going to get you on and Bumble and these. And then if you strike out, you're going to the Asian massage parlor. Is that, is that, is that, is that, that hasn't taken place? It's basically, it's basically borderline, like, forcing me to do it. So it's definitely, he's like, you're going to do it or I'm going to, you know, punch you in the face.

Okay, but I have a burning question that everyone is wanting to know. Yes. Okay, so you're on Bumble, you're on Tinder. No, no, Bumbled, not Tinder. Excuse me, whatever. Tinder's like the, like, a red light district of dating apps. Okay, okay, so you're on, like, what's, how are you hooking these girls? Like, what's your one-liner?

Like, what's your sentence? How's your week going? No, no, no. No, no. No, that's why I'm not very good. Is I'm a very complex person, and the very first, you have to, actually, no, actually, take it back. Bumble, I don't. hook, I don't say anything to them. For Bumble, they have to message you. So that's, it's an

app where the girl has to say the first, so that she has to bridge the connection. Okay, but, but when I say one liner, I mean, what's, you know, on Instagram, you have like a bio. What's your bio? Let me see. Yeah, I would love to hear your bio. We had to, we had to clean it up a little last week. Yeah, we did. He had a sonnet in there. No, I feel like it wasn't on brand. If you had a poem. If you asked this two, a week ago, it would have been much more entertaining, but let's see. So currently, and maybe we can get, I can get some advice from everybody out there. Please, please. Maybe this is why my, uh, we would love it. Please, anything will help us help us help. Please. Bumble, my, my, my hive is low on honey. Wait. No, no, no, I'm just,

because Bumble, it's the symbol is, oh, okay, but like, what's your bio? Okay, so my bio right now is, uh, one second, okay, I feel like you know it. You're just stalling here. No, no, no, I feel like, let me make something up. No, no, no. He's typing something right now for a file. I'm trying, I'm, okay. Read it out. No, no, this is pretty normal. Read it out.

Okay. Read it out. Vinyl. Music, art, and business. World traveler, an active gym user. Co-star on the skinny confidential him and her podcast. You're a co-star now. Oh.

Hey, I've got to use a little embellishment here. The sound man has become the star. I feel like we should. You're a star. You need to include the bare naked cucumber. in your bio. I think you should only just, like, just literally just say bear naked cucumber, period. I think I should just put in my just swipe left and get it out of the way.

I feel like you should write, I shave everything. Because if you guys remember the reason we call him the bear naked cucumber, as he announced on one of our first podcasts, that he shaves everything bare. But hey, but now that your ex is gone and she's out of the picture and she's the one that wanted you to shave bare, are you still going to continue this disgusting habit of shaving yourself to look like a 12-year-old boy? Basically, I mean, I'm conditioned right now to, to, you know, live a specific way. So I would say after the, actually, Lauren did do a, what did she do?

I did a Twitter poll. Yeah, she did Twitter poll, and I lost. So, wait, explain the Twitter poll. Explain the Twitter poll said, what, what, to the girls, I said, what do you prefer? It was like, bear. One was like, like, 70s Afro. One was like, what was it? It was like, clean.

It was like. One was like, ew, what the F? Yeah, one was like, you, what the F? and one was like a, like, you know, charred, like lawn. What was it like? No, half and half. It was like mulch. It was half and half.

I don't think I used that word. Munch? Ladies, I took one for the team and I put a survey on Twitter and I asked girls what they prefer for men because I was, I was shocked that Taylor told me that he was completely bare and he decided to do like a whole episode on it. I think that's like episode five if you guys want to hear. But my burning question is, what kind of razor do you use to go bare? because that's like a big situation going on.

Maybe we can get a razor company to sponsor the show. Yeah. No, I mean, I actually, what is the brand? Is it Bick? Any of the, any of the, the dual, the church, sorry, the three razors, get the nice clean shave. The dollar shave club? No, I feel like it's a purple Venus. You know, there's a saying that I, I quoted for this, and it was, once you go bear, you don't go hair.

Oh, my God. That should be your Bumble, like, profile. Okay. So, girls, if you see. this smooth dolphin of a man on Bumble, hit him up, let him know what's going on. Because you know what's going on down there now. My buddy Wesson's going to force him into the Asian massage parlor, which he is fighting against. We've got to keep the sex drive up, though.

Anyway, okay, so I've had enough of this bare naked talk. Last night we went to Dantanas. Has anyone been? Because it's very good. And it's very good. Were you able to eat at Dantanis with those new watermelon jerky cavities? Yeah, I have cavities. I got two cavities from eating watermelon jerky. That's a true. story, you guys. I literally ate watermelon jerky too much and got cavities, and Michael's been making fun of me. Well, the reason this is so good is because she's been

annoying me with watermelon jerky and saying it's the next best thing since sliced bread for the last five months. And then she went to her dentist and it said, this watermelon jerky is rotting your teeth. I still have not tried the watermelon jerky. I don't know how I dodge that bullet. I don't know. The reason being is because

it tastes like you're eating Twizzlers. So Twizzlers aren't good for your teeth. Watermelon as you are. Outtrial. to lunch, right? No, that's what it tastes like. It tastes like you're eating Twizzlers, but jerky for me. I feel like you should never wake up at 438 again in the morning, because I don't know, it doesn't taste anything like Twizzlers. I don't know, I'm not saying it tastes like, I'm saying the consistency. It's very gelatinous. Is that a word? Yeah. So, yeah, we went to, um, so Lauren's got rotted teeth now because of watermelon jerky. I got it fixed. Um, they should get like gold teeth.

No, no, no. I just wanted, I got my cavities fixed. They numbed me, which wasn't bad because I'm already half numb from jaw surgery. So I'm probably the first person on the planet, though, to get cavities from watermelon jerky. There was something about, like, the hand-to-mouth thing with watermelon jerky where I would pull the strips and just eat it in bed at night. It's so good, Jordan. You can't make that face.

You guys, there's something. This is not a pitch for anything. It's not sponsored. I just love watermelon jerky. It tastes like a sweaty gym sock. You've never tried it. Yes, I have. You have?

So then we went to last night, Jordan Nico came up last night to hang out before the podcast today because it's an early one. It's 930 this morning. We went to Dan Tanas. Every time he says Danes, he does an accent, and I, like, primarily can't go there again because you do the accent every time. I feel like you need to do that one more time. Dantanus.

Ooh, awkward. Dan Tanas reminds me of New York. Gary Busey was there. He was shoving pasta down his throat, going ballistic. Yeah. That was nice to see. Yeah, I ate the most delicious pasta. We had a chopped salad.

We had a little melon and prosciutto. Some Caesar salad. Their Caesar salad is good. Yeah, it's so good. Morning and Jordan ended up drinking and staying up till three in the morning, telling each other they weren't friends. And those girls do. I don't know why you guys do that every time. Nico's trying to mediate. I went to bed. No, Jordan and I were having a come-to-jesus meeting, and we had a little too much to drink. I don't ever party. I never do anything. I'm such a bore. So God forbid I go to Dananas and have like one too many.

We told you. We were coming up here to let loose and relax. Do you know how to let loose, honey? Yeah, I did. Have some carbs, have some pasta. Yeah, little carbs, little bread, a little better. I love it. So that's pretty much all that's been going on, just meeting Shaq, balling up with Taylor's date life, hitting dantanas, filling cavities, doing a little work.

And before we get into the show, Jordan, we got some questions. I think we'll take a quick break and then we'll get into it. We need a champagne refill. Yep. We'll be right back. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. We're back, and when we had a break, we discussed watermelon jerky. Everyone was curious. Kevin was Googling it.

If you want to Google it, it's on the skinny confidential. It shows you how to make it at home. Or you can buy it on Secura Life. What pretty cool is you pop up number one in the Google search for watermelon jerky. I didn't know that until we just did it. Yeah, because I'm obsessed with it. I'm obsessed with watermelon jerky. It's a strange addiction, I know, but there's been weirder.

And every watermelon jerky company should just be paying you now. because literally companies that make watermelon jerky can't even rank themselves. They should just... No one makes it besides one person. Like, it's a new thing, you guys. It's not something that's like around. Well, if they keep giving cavities, it's not going to be around for too much longer. During the break, Taylor said that it tastes like eating the flesh of a wild animal.

No, I mean, the texture is it looks like it. If you look at it, it looks like, you know, a charred animal. I'm just curious, like, where... Like, how does your mind go there of all places? Like, a wild animal's fly? Well, because the watermelon, when it dehydrates, it looks like, you know, burnt remains. I've never really thought of it like that. I've just thought of it as watermelon.

But if you guys haven't tried it, try it. But don't eat too much because you'll get cavities like me. And by the way, there's no sugar added to it. It's just watermelon. So, yes, I got cavities from watermelon. And it's really pink. Like, it's so pink. What are we describing here?

It's, this is... It's so pink. Jesus Christ. Okay, let's get me the question. This shows taking a turn. Babe, can you pour us some more champagne? A little refill. Thank God we have Nico here.

Yep. As our steward. Jeeves. Nico's also my lawyer and champagne pourer today. Yep. You are very talented. Jack of all trades. He's charging you.

Yeah. God. All right. Let's get into the questions, guys. Okay. Anonymous asks, why anonymous? Give your name next time, people. Do you ever get overwhelmed by expectations for your online slash digital slash social media presence?

Um, no. But me and Lauren will probably have different answers on this. I don't, I assume with what Lauren's answer is going to come in, it's going to say yes, because there's a lot to live up to with her platform and what she's putting out there. But for me, it's kind of just become part of my life. I probably could do a better job at getting more social media content out there. But for me, it's just, I don't really get overwhelmed by it. I don't think that's the right word.

What I do is I do think that it's part of our job. It's part of my everyday life now. I have to actually think about putting out content on a daily basis. I'm not so good on Instagram, but I'm working on a lot on Snapchat. So yeah, I mean, it's just part of it. It's just like one of those things you get out of bed and it's like part of the to-do list for the day. I get so overwhelmed by social media. As you know, Jordan.

But you like take days off, which I think is really, really healthy because it's so much. There's just so much to post and it's every single day. So taking a full day and just taking a break, I feel like you love it. of those. Yeah, I do that on a Sunday. I probably do it twice a month on a Sunday where I just don't Snapchat. I don't Instagram. I don't do anything. I just need a break. I need to step away. There's pressure the second you wake up to be constantly posting what you're doing, what you're eating, where you're going. I do try to take even chunks of the day off. Like, I'll take two hours off and then I'll put a lot of work into the next hour. I think that social media in general for

anyone and Michael might not agree with me but if you're a woman there's pressure there just is and it's just kind of part of it and it's part of what I do you know I'm constantly texting like we need new content we need this we need that it's it's pressure yeah I mean now there's this whole thing like basically people say that influencers should be posting a certain amount of times per day and there's this like threshold that you need to meet you know we did like a we did a piece on that though and we said, you know, it's not, there is that pressure, but I think that's a false pressure. I think you need to find what your audience is responding to and then post accordingly. A lot of people go, oh, I see this person posting three times a day. I need to do the same thing. And if they

haven't discovered what their audience likes and what the audience will respond to, sometimes they can come off as like oversaturating their space or, you know, kind of putting out the wrong formula for their success. So I think when I say I don't get overwhelmed, it's because I'm not really paying attention so much to what other people are doing. I'm trying to just produce for myself. What is a little bit, if I was going to use the word overwhelming, when we're doing Snapchat, for example, how interesting is it to see me sitting in my office all day long?

It's not interesting. So you've got to show movement. You've got to show patterns. You've got to show interesting things. And if you're not doing that, that can get a little bit overwhelming. So, yeah, there's a little bit of pressure for that. I will say you get used to it. You get used to it.

Don't you think it kind of overwhelms, like, some of your moments, too? because I remember when we were at the wedding, we were trying to get some pictures, and it's like everyone's hanging out. You know, you want to socialize. But then you got to get a photo. Yeah, but that's what I've signed up for. I've signed up for something that's constantly 24-7 working. And a big part of that is what I'm doing in my life. And so I'm okay with it. I'm not complaining about it. But can it get overwhelming? Yes. But it's also sort of ingrained in me. It's something I just do every day. It's like brushing my teeth. I wake up and I snapchat my coffee. Like, It's just kind of what you do. I think you need to pick and choose the moments. Absolutely. There's a lot of times where I'll put my phone away and just like, you know, turn it off. But a lot of the stuff that I'm doing on a day-to-day basis does need to be Snapchat or Instagramed or blogged about.

So I'm constantly thinking about content. You know what's overwhelming? The lighting. Oh, I hate bad lighting. If anybody sees me with Lauren in an event, I swear to God, we take, we have to take so many photos in the right light. I mean, it's a concept. I'm a constant struggle to find out where the sun is, where it's not.

Is it in front of us? Is it behind us? It drives me insane. I can't do bad light. Lauren, can you give us just an overview, a summary of what good lighting means? I don't know, like, the technicalities of it. I just know what looks good and what doesn't. I would definitely recommend getting a diva light if you're inside.

It's amazing. It's a perfect selfie light. I don't like use it for every single selfie. But if you want great light when you're filming, get a diva light. A ring light. wedding go, hey Lauren, haven't seen you since third grade. Maybe we were best friends. She goes, not now. I got to get some good light. Well, the light was really good. You basically stiff-armed with the girl.

No, I didn't. It was 602. 602. 6-0-2 is like an ideal time. And I had, the light was there. And so we like, enjoy your chicken kebab. I'll be right back. I got to get the good light. Not 6 o'clock. 602 guys. Everyone write that down in your calendars. 602 is a great time. It's prime time. Set an alarm

so that you can take a photo at 602. Here's the other thing. If you're all dressed up and you put a lot of effort into it and you did your hair, washed my hair for once in two weeks. Did my eyebrows, like my mascara is good. I'm wearing a dress with my tits popping out a couple times. But I want to take a picture of that. I didn't get the picture I wanted, though. But to give some value to this answer in terms of answering a question about being overwhelmed with social media, I think the best advice I could give is to stay in your own lane

and worry about what you're doing. Don't get caught in the spiral of looking at what other people are doing, other influencers, other people on social media, friends, family, whoever. Because When you start paying attention to every little detail about what everybody else is doing, it's distracting, and it takes you out of what you should be doing and what you should be focusing on. And I think that's what causes people to get overwhelmed. Absolutely. And I've said this before and I'll say it again. I asked Bethany Frankel when I went and worked for Skinny Girl, what's your biggest tip? And she said, stay in your own lane, be like a swimmer, focus on the end goal. You do you.

And that is what I think ultimately brings followers is when someone's so focused on what they're doing and not so focused on what everyone else. is doing, the comparison game is a losing game. I'm telling you, comparing is a waste of time, a waste of energy, and a waste of space in your head. I agree. Okay, let's get into the second question. Another anonymous asks Michael and Bear Naked Cucumber, what are your thoughts on guys who watch porn? What are my thoughts on guys who watch porn? Take it away, Taylor. Every guy watches porn. And if they say they don't, they're lying. Period. End of story. I was going to say the same thing. But the interesting thing is I'm curious. We got girls here getting pissed. No, no. I mean, well, they shouldn't because you know what? All the girls listening to this, if you say you don't watch

porn, you're probably lying too. But there is a movie called Don Juan, and it has to do with a girl who gets in a relationship with a guy who's a porn fanatic. And it played that the central part of the movie is how much porn he watches. So to the degree... And you identify with this man. No, no, no, no. I don't. I'm just saying,

I think most people watch porn to some degree. I mean, yeah, there's some freaky stuff out there. So I guess it's two-fold. It depends on what porn they're watching. And if, in how much they are watching. I mean, if it's, you know, like, oh... No, listen, listen. You know.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're going down a weird cop here. Taylor needs to change his username to Don Juan immediately. Screw Tales you die. It needs to be Don Juan. No, no, I'm not advocating. I'm trying to play devil's advocate, saying it depends on the situation because porn in itself isn't, yeah, I guess it could be bad, but it depends on the amount of porn that they watch. Taylor is very scientific about this analysis of guys who watch porn.

I'm just going to say, like, listen, sometimes you're, sometimes you're, sometimes you're, sometimes you're, sometimes you're, I actually, I actually adjusted your porn watching, um, routine. I took the coconut Vaseline chemical filled butter and put a big thing of coconut oil. raw and unrefined. Yeah, so thank you for that. You're welcome. I love you so much. But Lauren, it's funny as like, you know, I don't, I don't like get caught watching porn because that's just super awkward.

I don't need Lauren to be bust in if I'm watching porn. But the other day, she like had all these DVDs out. And God, I hope my parents and our God parents and everyone's listening. Wait, you realize I'm your sister and I'm sitting right here. Yeah, that's fine. You can hear it. Let's go PG on this one. I was looking for my book light because at night, Lauren turns off the lights and I was

trying to read. So I have one of those little things that clips to your book, you know, so you can read in the dark. How's seventh grade of you? And I was, like, searching around in the drawer, but this is where Lauren keeps the porn. And so while I was searching, I was like throwing all the porn DVDs all over the place. And backing up, yeah, Lauren got us some porn, so we can watch it together once in a while, which is also cool. So let's fist bump that. Ew, babe.

Okay, she's not fist bumping me, but. That is way too TMI. Anyways. So I was digging around and all the porn DVDs were flying everywhere, but I was looking for my booklight, and she comes in and, like, a flurry with her hair all messed up in a storm. Like, were you watching porn? And I was like, listen, I'm looking for my booklight, and it was super awkward. I had to explain.

Remember that one time I checked your history and screen shot it and sent it to you? Do you know what's creepy, though? Why did you get the Ray J. Kim Kardashian porn? There's history. Okay. My friend, Carly, love you, gave me all the celebrity porn just to like watch for fun. So she gave me Paris Hilton. She gave me Kim Kardashian.

She gave me another one. Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee. No, no, no, no. I need HD. Yeah, we know. We know you need HD. I saw that on your computer when I checked your history. I love checking their history.

Every guy in this office is like shaking their head. You guys are disgusting. Listen, you don't need some grainy thing that you're trying to like figure out and decipher what's what. I actually don't think it's disgusting that all guys watch porn. I actually think it's like something that guys just have to do. I think it's like having a huge pimple on your face, you guys. Like you have to pop the pimple. It's an itch you need to scratch.

Yeah, but do you need to get so into like this HD and all that? Well, listen, I need to make sure that I'm actually looking at a female and not like, a couch or something, you know, like, I need to be able to decipher what's going on. I can't... All the guys in this office, you guys, just to let you know are shaking their heads. So if you think your boyfriend doesn't watch porn or your husband, you're wrong. Yeah, but why... They do that face...

We could do a whole episode on the evolution of porn because it's gotten way better. Well, here's the deal. Why do you... Why do girls care if guys watch porn? I don't care. I mean, I can understand why you would care if it's affecting your sex life and the guys, like, only watching porn and not paying attention to you. Like, that would suck. But what do you care?

I mean, we... There's a lot going on. What's your porn preference? Like, do you like girl on girl or are you more, like, for like the firefighter that comes home and like, like, the cheating wife? Like, what's your prep? No, I switch it up, you know? I don't go too crazy, though. I don't like, I'm not, there's nothing weird, you know?

I feel like Taylor does not weird. I don't like context. I just like, you know, we both know they're both there for something specific. You know, there's, he's not there to fix the light. She's not there to, you know, babysit the kids. They're there to just get straight down to it. The ones that are weird are when it's like the mom and dad come home and they find the, daughter and they punish the daughter and you're like oh she's in trouble and then like the mom and

dad end up hooking up with the daughter like that's a little strange i always wonder about like who's i'm like literally considering like not marrying you what are you talking about like who's coming up with that sick storyline who is watching that well or there's scenario where like the mom comes home and the daughter is you know with a man and the dog and the mom comes in instead of yelling at the daughter joins everybody here's a little confused because it's weird it's like okay like you know i can't imagine me and lorna have a daughter at one point where like listen you've been a bad bad girl. And then they like start hooking up with the daughter. I'm like, this is strange. I'm getting on Bumble. And my bio is going to be amazing and so on brand. I'm so over you.

You're sick. You can take your porn and go over there. We should probably get back to the question on what are our thoughts on point? Wait, I feel like we didn't get a clear answer from Tay. Yeah. Tate, what's your take? What's your porn choice? Like, be honest. Get deep. Real deep. I don't know. That's a difficult question. Well, he just said he went from being an ass man to a tit man. That's recent. That's a new. Yeah, but when it comes to the porn field, tits or ass, you can, you know, actually that's where you can get both. You've been really titty lately, though. I've caught you checking out my tits like 40 times.

You're looking at them right now. No, that was a glance. I have a really funny story, actually, about porn, and then, like, we can move on. Because I guess we've addressed the point that every guy watches porn. And girls, if you don't like it, you better get used to it because you're not going to stop it. And it's just part of being a guy. Wait, really quick, do you check when I'm on Snapchat, when I'm somewhere, before you, you watch it. How do you gauge where I am? I get, I have a lot of people. I got Taylor in the field.

I say, Taylor, get me at 10.20 on where she's at. No, I'm just kidding. No, I don't really get that in depth. But I have a funny story, and then we'll move on. I have a buddy who ended up watching porn, and he was telling me this story. And he probably shouldn't have told me the story because now I tell it to everybody. But he ended up watching porn. And he's like, yeah, I was watching this porn. And then I was going at it. And then I was finishing. And right when I finished, I realized that it was a he-she. And the woman was actually not a woman. It was a he-she.

There's nothing wrong with that, though. Different strokes for different folks. He said that he finished and then the person turned around and it had a big old dick. I'm going to be honest after this conversation. I feel like all of you guys in this room and Nico and Kevin and everyone that's here have done weirder. So maybe don't watch he-she porn. Why? That's your thing.

I guess if that's your thing. Yeah. If that's your thing. I have an embarrassing story that happened to myself and I'm surprised. I'm surprised I'm telling this, but it's not... Everybody's not quiet down. It could be worse. So, when I was in high school, I was watching a porn, and I don't know why I left on the screen, but I paused it.

And, you know, usually with the screen, when you walk away, it goes black. There was a girl that came over that I was dating at the time, and she walks into the bedroom. And this was probably, like, I think it was the second time I'd ever hung out with her. She goes onto the computer, like, oh, hey, like, let me check something on the computer. And she, like, moves the mouse. The screensaver is on. And it goes away. and just some big, titted girl just getting, you know, blasted.

And I had to, she's like, what is this? And my reaction was, of course, I said, I think my sister was down here using my computer. Needless to say, they broke up. How did this show go so far astray? No, no, it's because of the question, not because of the people. Okay. So anyways, yes, that's our answer. Taylor and I think we're both in agreeance, Taylor, that every guy watches porn.

Hopefully it's not too aggressive and it's not ruining your sex life. Hopefully it's enhancing it. It needs to enhance it. It enhances ours. Okay, let's do a total 360 and talk about business. The next question is another anonymous and she or he is asking, what's one of the biggest sacrifices you've had to make in order to help grow your career? That really is a complete 360.

Time, time, time, time, time. Time. Well, I think that's in any business, right? You're going to sacrifice personal time and freedom. But I'd say with this particular business, it's a lot of, it's a lot of stress on a relationship, and it's a lot on privacy because, you know, we're out there. We're on social media. We're on Snapchat. We're on here. As this has gone on, there's been like less and less privacy, which is fine. That's like part of the field. And we like what we're doing. We love what we're doing. But yeah, I'd say privacy and then a strenuous relationship because we have to work together so closely all the time that it's definitely,

it's been difficult to decipher when it's time to switch off work and when it's time to get back into the relationship. Yeah, I think that that's been difficult. I think it's a dance and you learn the dance. When I go right, he goes left and we've had to learn that. Sometimes we were both going right. But definitely time for me, I have to put a lot of time into what I do. It takes a lot of time. I think the more effortless something looks, the more time it takes.

And that's an interesting concept if you think about it. it. The more effortless something looks, the more time it takes. So I try to make everything look very effortless and whimsical and on brand and feminine. And it takes a lot of time. And whether that's editing photos or getting the right light or the right outfit or the right, you know, food for a blog post and writing it and editing it and spell checking it and, and, you know, making sure everything's linked. Like it goes on and on and on and the emails and the behind the scenes, as you know. I love those emails. The emails are like, we don't. We don't know. We probably get 200 to 500 emails a day. Each, each. I've said this before. Like, if you're going to go

into business and you're going to start developing your career, like you're going to have to give things up. Like, maybe you're not going to be out on that Friday night drinking with friends. Maybe you're not going to be out Saturday at the beach. Like, that just comes with the territory if you want to have your own business. I mean, or if you want to develop your own career, it just comes with the territory. I know Nico's here. He's my lawyer and I've seen him start his new law firm, which is Ambassador Law, if you guys are looking for a good lawyer. And I've just seen like the guy is slammed stuck in the office and it just comes to the territory like he's a he's a budding entrepreneur he's just starting his law career and like it just takes time and I think

people that think that when they work for themselves that it buys them freedom or tricking themselves like you have a little bit of financial freedom but you also have the stress of carrying that business on your shoulders and you lose a lot of that personal time that you may have had before you got into that someone asked me the other day they said I'm mentoring this girl and I'm going to do this on the skinny confidential. So I'm picking like two or three girls a year that I'm going to mentor. And her name's Deepa and she's amazing. Hi. So anyways, she asked if I'm overwhelmed. And I said, I'm overwhelmed all day long. And I really am. I'm overwhelmed all day long. And I need to get that under control and that's something that I'm working on. Like I said, I try to wake up and

meditate. But when you are running your own business, I don't care what it is, it's overwhelming. whether you're a lawyer or what Michael's doing or a market or whatever it is. It's overwhelming. It just is. Don't you think it all kind of evens out? Like it pays off. Like would you have it any other way? No, it's, I get off on it. It's funny. I had, I was training with Seth who was on the show last week. I was trained with him yesterday and he said, you know, do you ever have those thoughts where he said maybe just go, quit what you're doing, disappear and go to Bali or something and just stop? And my mind just doesn't think like that. I can picture myself going there for a vacation, having a great time, but I know, like, just being me, I strive on, I thrive on the pressure. I love it. Like, I wouldn't want to be away from this

kind of pressure. I wouldn't want to not be overwhelmed. I like the feeling, like, I think life's very boring if you're just sitting there going through it slowly. Like, I like a fast-paced life. That's why I love New York so much. And so, yeah, you're going to sacrifice time. You're going to sacrifice some privacy with this type of business. You're going to sacrifice some relationship. I know some people, like, think about the dad that doesn't have as much time to spend. with this kids. Like, that comes to that. You've got to decide what you want out of life. And if you if you're not being honest with yourself about that, then yeah, you're going to, those sacrifices are going to hurt. But if you're being like totally honest, like for me, yeah, I like the fast pace.

I don't mind that Nand Lorne's relationship gets put through the test when we're working together. I don't mind sacrificing a little privacy because I love what I'm doing. So you need to make that decision. Yeah, I totally agree with you. I think you need to decide what you want to do and kind of readjust accordingly. It just depends. And I think, As a blogger, like I said, you're blogging about your life. At least I am. And there's a lot of different things that are cons that come with that. Yeah, privacy is a big one.

Privacy is a big one. I'm very, very private in a lot of different ways. People would be shocked, as you know. I'm very protective of my family and my friends. But I will say something that is a pro out of this. What this business has done for me is it's allowed me to put my egg. in the basket that really matters. So friendships that maybe don't matter,

I put all my eggs in the ones that do because I only have a limited amount of time. Yeah, it's made you prioritize for sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, yes, that's probably it. And just one last, like, I'll say one last thing on it. He always likes to say one last thing, thank you guys. There's been so much talk about, like, entrepreneurs

and getting everybody set up to be like a business owner or start their own career, and I'm a big proponent of that. And I really do believe in that. I think everybody should have, like I said, they should have a side thing. They should try to get their own business set up. They should take a stab at life. They should put themselves out there. But I think before any of that can occur, you need to have a really honest conversation with yourself.

And I don't mean to say you need in a way to be off putting. I mean like a person needs to sit down and say, okay, I'm having this conversation with myself. Do I really want this stress? Do I really want this pressure? Do I really want the responsibility of this business? Do I want to be responsible for other people? Do I really have the patience? Do you have the patience? Do you have the persistence?

All these things we've talked about. If you can come out of them and say, yes, I do, and it's an honest answer, then just be ready to make some sacrifices. But if you ask yourself those questions, like, you know what? Nah, not really. Like, there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't do what society is telling you and be like, I have to do that because that's what people. I've read this book or that's what Michael's saying. Like, be honest with yourself, be honest with who you are, and then go from there.

You won't feel overwhelmed. The struggle for me is worth the reward. I feel like we should make a segment of Michael's one last thing. Totally. He always has one last thing. There is. We might as well just add it. It's usually the most valuable thing in the show.

Oh, that's cute that you think that. That was valuable, though. That was good advice. I'm taking that one to heart. Okay, well, you should put that in your Tinder bio if you had one. So bare naked, anything else to say about any plugs for the dating scene? One phrase, help me. Oh, my God.

Help me build it. Not actually like, help me like I need. I don't need help. We're confused. He's taking applications. If you want to see him, you can head over to his social media. It's super creepy because he let you know what time he woke up this morning. No, because I'm a really cool person.

I'm a great guy. I am creative. What kind of porn do you like? You got to get to know me. No, no. I mean, I think once people break down my rugged exterior, they'll find this. I don't know how rugged you can be with that bare naked. I'm a very tender and warm, warming, caring person.

Tender, that's an interesting way to describe you. You went from tender, rugged, to caring and warm. You're all over the place. We need to do, like, we were talking about brand profiles last week. I think I need to do a brand profile for your dating scene. Everyone's wondering if you're going to put that on the skinny confidential, by the way. I'm working on it. All right, you guys.

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