The Bossticks - #37: Steve Houck - Married... Finally! Locked Down, Game Over.

Episode Date: November 15, 2016

Fresh off tying the knot, Lauryn & Michael are joined by Steve Houck to talk a little bit of wedding shenanigans and transformational consulting. Steve Houck specializes in personal & professional coa...ching, transformation, and time management. He shares the amusing story of how he met Lauryn and the impact he has had on her life goals. The trio, also highlight Lauryn & Michael's special day, an intimate - Gothic themed & drama infused Wedding! From Michael's blackout hairdo to everyone winding up in the pool with their clothes on, this installment of "The Skinny Confidential Him & Her," is nothing short of eventful! To connect with Lauryn click HERE To connect with Michael click HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Bombshell Body Guide and Meal plan.  tired of combating inflammation & bloat? Want to feel lighter and sexier? Check out lauryn's latest 7 day meal plan. In this simple & super effective plan you'll find: + tsc grocery list with every ingredient you need for the 7 days. + what the f*ck to do when you love carbs guide. + quick and delicious recipes: breakfast, snacks, lunch, dinner and dessert. You will also find 28 weeks worth of fat burning, muscle toning, 27 minute long, effective workouts you can do at home with no equipment. USE PROMO CODE: HIMANDHER at Checkout for 20% Off

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Starting point is 00:01:13 Let's get the show rolling. The following program is a podcast.1.com presentation. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cooking. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you alone for the ride. Get ready for some major realness.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, him and her. Welcome back, guys. For those of you who don't know me, I'm Lauren Everts, creator of the blog and brand The Skinny Confidential. Are you Lauren Bostic now? Oh, shit. You might be. Ooh, I just... I am Michael Bostic.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I don't love signing a B. Newly married man. Game over. Game over. You're dead. Life is over. Your introduction should just be like, I'm Michael Bostic and I'm dead.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I'm dead. So as always, we want to thank you guys for subscribing, listening and rating our podcast. Your Snapchat messages have been unbelievable. We really appreciate the reviews and the messages on social media. If you guys have not rated or reviewed the show,
Starting point is 00:02:19 please do so. Even if it's just a one star, drop us the line and let us know how we can continue to improve. And of course, if you like the show, let your friends, boyfriends, dogs, sisters, brothers know so we can continue to grow this amazing community. The amazing community. Yeah. Michael's a little hungover.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I'm a little hungover. Be honest with how hungover you are. Very hungover. Today's going to be a very hungover, very interesting show, newly married. Your voice is sounding like really rough too because I'm like you're screaming. And we're here with our good friend, Steve. Hello, Steve. Hello.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So Steve is one of my best friends. He's become one of Michael's best friends. And we decided to make Steve... Well, actually, I manipulated him and forced him over here to be on our podcast today. Because a lot of you guys have met him through my blog, but you've never met him through the podcast. And we're so hungover that we needed to take the pressure of ourselves
Starting point is 00:03:11 and have somebody else step into... Really diabolical of me. I asked. They were really stretching for content today. Really stretching. It's a stretch today. I mean, we're basically been on a bender for five or six days down here partying for this wedding.
Starting point is 00:03:24 A lot of alcohol. A lot of alcohol. Steve actually said that there was tequila tables on the table and they were gone in two minutes. Less than two minutes. My group of friends, our group of friends, they like to party. I watched what 60 people devour two cases of karma tequila within about a minute and a half. We love karma. Karma is our favorite tequila.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It was all down the table. We had a super gothic wedding. I'm going to show you guys all the details on the blog. Think drama, drama, drama, drama. I feel like I've said the word drama six million times this week, but I had to, like, explain what I was wanting. I think the hotel is, was excited to have us, but I think they're even more excited to have us leave. What did they say to you about the tequila? He said, we've done a lot of wedding parties down here, and I've never seen anyone drink this much tequila in my life.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Well? It was a sight. It was a sight. We love our karma. All right, so before we get into the show, I want Steve to, like, introduce himself. so you guys can have a little context. So I'm Steve, Steve Hallop. Good friends to Michael and Lauren,
Starting point is 00:04:32 but a lot of people have asked what I do. Aside from being in high technology and enterprise software for years, I also work a lot with personal and professional coaching. And aside from being friends, I've worked with Lauren and others, both in personal and professional coaching. And that's why we're doing.
Starting point is 00:04:54 what I do. A lot of calendaring. Calendaring. Steve is actually, he's, you've helped us. You've done a big coaching session with us earlier this year. Relationship coaching. No, but all on the skinny confidential as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:07 The strategic future by design. Yeah. We did a compelling strategic future by design as it was called. Yes. Okay. And how would you describe what you do? You kind of basically help us get a framework for what we're trying to accomplish. Well, at its base, it's, you know, called transformational consulting.
Starting point is 00:05:23 So whether you're a couple, a person, or a business, we're always striving for a constant state of transformation and growth. And so the genesis of what I do is transformational consulting. And we worked, as you said, on the strategic future by design. That was looking at how you transform the skinny confidential. We've done some work with Lauren and you about transforming your lives and a strategic future as you get married. and the basis of it is transformation. Is there an accelerator class for Lauren on the transformation now that she's a married woman? So we're working on that.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I thought we had moved a little bit faster. Well, the calendaring's taken me a little long to get my head wrapped around it. So it's one thing we work on is Lauren calls it calendaring, but it's probably the most fundamental aspect of transformation is time management. I think most people who are struggling with transformation struggle with the fundamental management of time and where they spend their time. And more importantly, that time is burned up by conversation. So what we worked on with Lauren is first get a budget on your time, being on time, spending time in the right areas. You told me time is currency.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Time is currency. It's just like a check. If you book two things at the same time or you try to make two commitments at the same time, you're going to bounce that check. You're going to bounce that conversation. And in the end, what you're doing is compromising your integrity. Then you lose credibility. And you lose credibility.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And you're certainly not going to transform. What's funny is during the wedding, we did our vows. And I wrote them all out, and I had them in this book to read at the altar. And my first vow, my first thing I said before the vows was I was setting out to thank Lauren for being on time for our wedding. but if you remember, I had to actually scratch that one out because you were not on time for our wedding. I would have never been on time for our wedding. In fact, I was sitting in the room completely ready to go. I couldn't be on time for our wedding because it wasn't unbranded.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Well, we're going to talk about that because... All standing up there for a while when we were all standing and waiting. I needed to like have a dramatic entrance. Oh, you did. Yes, you did. I thought that was good. You told me in my vows you'd promise to lie about the time. Yeah. Well, it was great, but I was standing up there for a long time in a suit with a bow tie in the hot combo sun melting.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Well, I got my drama. I had my dramatic entrance. I needed it. So you can see time and calendaring is fundamental we're still working on. We're working on it. But I have gotten a lot better. In fact, I was waiting for you at the bar the other day at the peninsula at 440, no, 458. We were supposed to meet at five and you got there at 5.08. So I'm feeling you made a lot of coaching. No, I was there at 5. I was just on the other side of the bar. No, you were not.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yes, I was. You were. Yeah. You were hiding on the other side. Yeah. Okay. You and Jordan were sitting at the bar on the other side. We were ready to go.
Starting point is 00:08:33 But you were on, you were actually early and that's, you know, one of the other things is, you know, if you're not 10 minutes early, you're late. I was 10 minutes early. So I want to take a second to tell you guys about a. company that I've blogged about before called Soul Society. So it's spelled S-O-L-E, like the soul of a shoe. The company is based in L.A., and it's a shopping destination for head-to-to-to-loks that are on trend, but not tragically trendy. So it's kind of perfect. They carry their own brand of shoes, handbags, and accessories, as well as shoes and apparel by brands such as Vince, Lucky brand, and Dolce Vida. Yeah, if all you girls needed more shoes. Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Quality pieces made to last more than one season at prices that won't break the bank, just how I like it. So there's shoes, handbags, accessories, apparel, everything. It's kind of heaven. Free shipping on all orders, $50 or more at sole society.com. Make sure you guys use the promo code Skinny for 15% off your first purchase only at soulsociety.com. That's skinny for 15% off. Do you know what's funny though? Steve has known Lauren and me since the beginning of Skinny Competential.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah. Of the skinny confidential. We have to tell them about the PowerPoint. You have to like get into like the story and set it up of how we met. You guys should tell the story how you guys met because I think it's one of the funniest stories of all time. I'll let Steve tell you loves to tell it. It's his favorite story ever. So as part of what I do in technology,
Starting point is 00:10:09 uh, I was working with a technology company in in San Diego. that was raising money at the time. And I'd spend time in San Diego on business, but this was going to be a longer assignment. So I would be in town every two weeks, for two weeks at a time, and took up residents at the inn in Rancho Santa Fe.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And my first night in, as some of you may know, Rancho was pretty quiet after 7.30 p.m., I walked down to the only bar that seemed open at that time was delicious. And this was only about 8 p.m. And I see the door open. And I walk in and there's a blonde girl with a sweatshirt on. I think was eating off someone's plate. I'm pretty sure you were.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And looked at me and asked me what I wanted. She goes, what do you want? I think she was ready to be out the door. And I said, well, you know, can I get some food? Are you closed? Like, what time do you close? Or it's like 10. So she yells back to the kitchen, hey, can we get him some food?
Starting point is 00:11:18 About service. It says, I'm serving. So I was immediately intrigued, right? And I figured this is someone that would keep me entertained on my assignments. So I sat down to have dinner at the bar that I didn't got to know, Lauren, and was incredibly entertaining. But there were, what, three, four other guys at the bar. that night. And it quickly became evident to me that Lauren knew these people and they had grown up together.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And they were all talking, I think, about why they didn't sleep with a certain girl. It was all the same girl. And I leaned over and asked Lauren if this was a gay bar because these guys were, you know, arguing about why they didn't sleep with this girl. Anyway, the place became so intriguing. Lauren became my source of entertainment, but we became fast friends. And I, what, ate dinner there every night? We ate every night. Surprising you lived to tell the tale considering how much bar chemicals she put in those
Starting point is 00:12:23 glasses. So I start getting this horrific sore throat. And anyone who's familiar with bar chemicals, the three-step process for washing the glasses, Lauren put chemicals in every process. Every process. Yeah, I'm not a good bar gender. What can I say? Almost killed me, though. I mean, my martini's had head on it. They had, like, phone.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But you kept coming back. I did. This is my problem with you and Michael. You guys complained about me, but I can't cut you out. Like, I can't quit you. You guys keep coming. Glutton's for punishment. You're like herpes. It was, it was, I don't know if I want to be described as herpes, but. No, it was fun. And I really got a sense of the community in Rancho Santa Fe. And, you know, about the third time in, Lauren asked me what I did for a living. and, you know, people who know me, I don't often talk about me. I like to turn the tables. So I told Lauren I as a reality TV producer, and she immediately, you know, went on stage. 100%. There was a fucking runway behind the bar after he told me that.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I was making moves. I was doing dances. I all of a sudden went to the back and put mascara and lip gloss on. I was like, enough about me. What do you think about me? Like the WB frog. The WB frog. That was me.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And so as my strategy goes, she knows very little about me and about a weekend. I know a lot about Lauren. And I know a lot about the town of Rancho Santa Fe. And I hear a lot about Michael. Unbeknownst to me, Lauren is going home and telling Michael that there's a new guy in town hitting on you. Yeah, I was like, there's this new guy in town. He won't leave me alone. He keeps coming in.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I think he's obsessed. I like to stir the pot a little bit with Michael. I don't get too raw up about that, though. I'm like, okay. Yeah, you were fine. I tried to make you jealous. Another one of my wedding vows was that I will always do my best to believe your many exaggerations. And you do that well. Thank you. I love drama.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So as we got to know each other, you know, Lawrence, like, oh, you've got to meet Michael. I think she was trying to make me jealous and compete more. Ultimately, her tips were going higher. They were. I don't know. I was getting good tips. But it all came to a crashing close for him. And I, eight months later.
Starting point is 00:14:40 When, I guess what, I was arguing over a text message or something. You were arguing over a text message and I said, what's wrong? Yeah. And what did I say? You said, oh, my significant other. Just jealous. And I said, tell her to be quiet. Like, she needs to get over it.
Starting point is 00:14:56 We're just friends. And I, at that point, because I don't hide anything until I let her know that there was my boyfriend. And her face just went. I mean, her whole strategy with Michael and the tips and everything else just went out the door. I had this whole strategy and this whole plan and you said that and I had to go to the back and collect myself. So then I met Steve and I said, Lauren, I don't think he's hitting on you. I think he's hitting on me. And Mike and I became fast friends.
Starting point is 00:15:31 We did. And met both families. And at that time, Lauren was beginning the blog. And she began to tell me about her focus for the blog. And I was really impressed. I mean, not only was Lauren incredibly creative, but she had an extreme focus and strategy for the blog. You know what's funny, though, at the time,
Starting point is 00:15:57 there's a lot of people who are like, what are you doing? I don't think so. And, you know, I was always in support of what Lauren was doing. And I think you were one of the only like maybe three to four other people that like clearly saw the vision and clearly thought, hey, this is a good idea and helped her execute. And you put together a PowerPoint for her and you kind of gave her some framework to how to get started and like how to look at the brand and what to do. And I think you were one of the first people too to tell her to look at it as a brand. No, and she ran. So it wasn't, you know, I like, I'm fascinated by people who had drive vision and can execute.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And so when I saw what Lauren was up to, and it took me a while a few days when she kept talking about her blog, even me, I was like blog, but then when she finally said, no, listen to what I'm doing. And I sat down and listened to her. I said, then I realized she was on to something. And just put together a simple framework is three slides. But I'll tell you what, the two of you working together and where it is now, I look back at those slides. I mean, you guys have executed flawlessly on building this brand. building an engagement level with a community that is, you know, fully engaged with you. And it made me really happy.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I forget where we were. I think it was in Malibu, so we went to Malibu Farms. Love Malibu Farms. And that was the first time that I actually got an idea of how big the brand had come. And Lauren had told me that, you know, this is getting big. In fact, we are sitting for lunch and what two girls came up and said, oh, you're Lauren from the skinny confidential and you know they expressed how much not only do they love the the brand and the platform but how much they're involved with it yeah i think creating that community is really important
Starting point is 00:17:44 i don't want to be like a blogger that has like kind of a wall up i want to be able to converse and talk with the community but you made me this beautiful PowerPoint you're totally underestimating what you did it was a beautiful PowerPoint with a timeline of what i should hit and when so for instance So he said, you write a book in a year. You create a product line. You all over time. So you kind of were doing a creative strategic future by design for the skinny confidential without telling me you were doing it. This is what I'm interested in jumping in here.
Starting point is 00:18:19 You've seen a lot of different businesses start. You've seen some succeed, some fail. For people out there that are thinking about starting a brand or business, what do you think the biggest mistake is that they can make in the beginning? I think the big, where I don't know if it's a mistake or a misconception, but where I see the biggest failures are when people enter whatever business it is purely for making money. And so I see a lot of people now that I know wanting to start to blog because of the story I relay about Lauren. But Lauren wasn't in it to make money. Obviously, she wanted to make money.
Starting point is 00:18:59 But I think her first priority and was in your mission statement. was to be an authentic voice. And at that time, it was a focus on North County, San Diego. So she had this passion for blogging, and she wanted to be an authentic voice for lifestyle choices. And for this generation. Like, I want to be like a Martha Stewart, but cool that cusses and is edgy and fun for this generation.
Starting point is 00:19:23 So there was a clarity around. There's a clarity. So you think when people get started, if their main priorities to make money, that usually ends up? Yeah, I mean, if you're not a stockbroker, or hedge fund, but if you're in most businesses, if you're not focused on creating value, right? If it's just how do I make money on this,
Starting point is 00:19:41 that's the biggest fall. There's a number of execution errors after that. But I see a lot of wealthy people, a lot of smart people look at whether it be blogging or they see someone be successful with a product, that they're like, oh, I can just go build another one and compete with them and be successful and make all this money. it usually doesn't work out if that's the driving in for us.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's really funny that you just said that because today I screenshotted this quote because it really spoke to me and it feels like the more success that I get, I have a long way to go. I haven't reached the potential I want to reach at all. But Oprah said, the reason I've been able to be so financially successful is my focus has never ever for one minute been money. And I think that what you just said is 100% true. if you're so fixated on money, I feel like it takes so much energy and space that you can't really thrive. Flourish is the word I want to use. Well, there's not the authenticity. But I'll tell you the second mistake is for creative people that do have that authenticity and create a brand that becomes a point at scale, which kind of this lack of acknowledgement of what it takes to finance things can be,
Starting point is 00:21:01 You can underestimate that. And I think between you and Michael, both creative people, both smart business people, you've got this balance of authenticity of the brand, a commitment to your base, and a business acumen that's really making it work. We're trying. No, I think, you know, it's, I think we're both creative in our own ways. Lauren's much more, like, artsy creative. I don't know if that's the right word to describe it, but I think. I would like to be called a visionary every second.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Okay. My wife's a visionary. I think what's important is when you're partnered with somebody that is that has a lot of that creativity, you need to figure a way to help them channel it and still execute on a business. I don't know the best way to do that. Michael's been amazing for me and so has Steve because both of them, I feel like both of them really get me. And they just were saying before we started the podcast that I don't sometimes. know how to communicate what's in my head. But both of them, they both give me the ability to be a better version of myself.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I feel like without both of you. You'd be screwed. Yeah. And, you know, there's people in my life, like my dad and Mike and Jen and Julie. Like, there's, I have a lot of good people around me to keep me on a straight path. I want to tell you guys about an awesome sponsor, Koppari. So this holiday season, I've got a lot to be thankful for, glowing skin, luscious locks, and the fact that my rough, dry spots are now quenched to perfection.
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Starting point is 00:23:38 We've engaged for a long time, been together. How do you work together? And we've answered this a few times. But for people that you've coached, couples you've coached, what is usually the biggest, as you'd like to say, breakdown when it comes to, you know, having a relationship and also running a business together? And with finances, too. Like, how do you juggle it all?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Well, whether it's a personal relationship, business relationship, I mean, we're human beings so we don't separate them. So fundamentally, you know, the failures in business or the breakdowns in business or the breakdowns in relationship are somewhat similar. So if there's first not an authentic commitment to the relationship, right, oftentimes couples in a relationship really don't slow down and get a line on what you're committed to in life, right? You commit to the big things, like we're going to get married and we're going to have kids, but you don't commit to, you know, what are your priorities? You know, what are your priorities around work-life balance? You know, really talking to the details of what you're okay with and what you're not okay with. So, and it's easy to be in a relationship and get caught up and being married, get caught up and having kids.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Those are all institutional type things and go 10 years without ever talking about, well, We didn't really get to what we're committed to as individuals in this relationship. And, you know, we're doing some of that work now. And I think when you do it, you begin to realize we never really talk. What are my core values? What are my principles? You know, what am I going to compromise on and what am I not willing to compromise on? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And, you know, I've said this in the last episode that I fully believe that in a relationship or marriage, love is not enough. Absolutely. You need to, you know, even Lauren and I, you know, we've been together a long time, but we're committed with Steve to constantly work on ourselves, to be able to communicate with ourselves between each other so that we can get on the same page, figure out what our common goals are. And like Steve said, not just, oh, get married and have kids, but, you know, let's talk about this issue or let's talk about what this podcast looks like. Or let's talk about what it means for Michael to be involved in Lauren's business or vice versa. And so I think that, you know, in a relationship, if you just think you're going to get in and be in love and that's going to carry you through. life, that's almost impossible.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You need to get on the same page. I hate a fairy tale too. I mean, there's no fairy tale. Like, you have to work it. Let's get real. There's no fairy tale. You have to work it every single day. You have to work on yourself.
Starting point is 00:26:10 You always say you have to have accountability. Accountability to me is, I think, really important. And you have to be self-aware and call yourself on your own shit. Really? Yeah, Michael Boston. This is a new wife thing. This is a new wife thing. This is a new wife.
Starting point is 00:26:24 thing? I think you're also touching on what, you know, when you're struggling, Lauren, in particular, with the work and the relationship, and I say in particular because we've been working specifically on, on this, is, you know, people aren't conscious of what they choose every day. And, you know, for example, Lauren will be in a frenzy because she's, you know, running late or there may be a conflict somewhere in work. And I can tell she's really choosing to be flustered, you know, angry and getting people really present to on any moment of the day and in your life, what choices are you making? And I think most times if you slow down and really say, okay, with this behavior, with this conversation I'm having, what choice am I really making? And I think most people aren't conscious of it. And most people are honest when there's a breakdown. What they're really choosing is to be right, make other people wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:20 They're choosing to be insecure. They're choosing to be fearful, but it's just as easy to choose to be happy, confident, accountable. And so getting present to what you choose is really important. No, and I think that you've obviously helped Lauren and I both tremendously, not just in our relationship and our business, but both of ourselves personally. You know, me and Steve have private conversations, Lauren see if have private conversations. And just getting in the right mindset, I think it's important to kind of get like a mentor or coach in your life that can, help you, like, you know, figure out what your choices are, figure out what your thought pattern for the day is going to be. I mean, it's just, we talk about all the time, and I talked
Starting point is 00:27:58 about it. I don't want to get too deep in the election. A lot of people were snapping us about that. But I think whether you're for the current president of elect or not, it's all about mindset and how you choose to react to something. People were snapping saying, oh, you know, the world is over. Oh, this is going to be the worst thing ever. And I said, I choose to believe that this is going to be a good thing. And I think if you choose to be unhappy about something, you're going to be unhappy. And if you choose to look at things in a brighter light and you choose to be happy, then you'll be happy. It's all about perspective. Choice creates how the world occurs to you, right? Like you said, if you choose to be mad or upset or fearful about something, that's how the
Starting point is 00:28:40 world's going to occur to you. And that's what's going to manifest in your relationships. I 100% agree. And your other point about coach or mentor. So, you know, I'm working with both of you, but I also work with that. And so it's, it's, it's really important if people are committed to transformation in their business or their personal life that they do get a third party. Because I have my own issues. And what do you all say to me? Because this is what I, I was trying to get this point across in previous podcasts. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:08 That, you know, I can give advice or Lauren can give advice. But you also need to go in like, figure, figure some other things out outside of what we're saying because, you know, Lauren and I work with you. You work with somebody else. And I think you need to take these things and take these different perspectives from different people with a grain of salt and just, and not know, like, and know that there's more of one way to skin a cat, right? Well, you're pointing to it to the, so Lauren kind of leans to the fix me, right? Give me tools where I'm immediately fixed. I know. I like a quick fix. We all know that. But transformation is not about that.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It is more about what you're talking about, Michael, where, okay, I've gotten coaching, I've gotten context, and it's given me a new way to evaluate things. But then use those tools to create the right conversations for yourself. Super important. So how we worked together with Steve was that we both had to turn in pre-work, which still waiting on yours. I had to get through the wedding. Okay, Michael. I barely made it through that. He's acting like Bride Zilla.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I did everything. Like, you just literally stood at the altar. So we both had to do pre-work. And pre-work is, like, all these questions about... Sure, those were the questions about... Communication. Communication. What you're committed to, what you're fearful of, what you're willing to compromise on.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Think about your principles. And one of the reasons Michael told me that he hadn't done it yet is those questions are... They're... Nothing tricky about him, but they are... not normal conversations that you have with anyone. And so, you know, one of the responses was, from Michael, he wasn't just ready yet to commit to have that conversation, which is fair game.
Starting point is 00:30:55 It's, if you have to get in a, in the conversation with me, not you, Lord. But if you're not authentically ready to have that conversation, don't commit to having it. And so I recently, although he hasn't done the pre-work. TikTok. No, but I am committed to doing the pre-work. I just wanted to get through this wedding and sit down and actually have the time to really sit down and think and be able to write down clearly what my thoughts were. And I think the wedding shed some new light on things and will help you in the pre-war.
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Starting point is 00:32:56 This is the skinny confidential, him and her. Well, let's talk about the wedding a little bit. Let's change gears. The wedding was phenomenal. 55 people, not one person there that I didn't absolutely love, or that Michael didn't absolutely love. Every single person, there are our best friends, our family members,
Starting point is 00:33:16 came together, and it was so special and so intimate and so gothic. Honestly, it was basically a three-day party. Yeah, we just partied. And like I said earlier, our friends really like to party, so it happened really fast. I didn't know how I was going to feel about the wedding,
Starting point is 00:33:34 not in terms of marrying you, but in terms of like, if it would be fun, if it would be worth spending the money, if it would be worth doing. and I don't regret spending anything on this way. I thought it was so much fun. That's awesome. Yeah, we had an amazing time.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Gall ended up in the pool with our clothes on. My phone's gone. Your phone's gone, you can't Snapchat. Were you nervous? I was not nervous. I swear. I actually told Steve in the beginning. He asked me, he was there.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Steve was our ring bearer. He also gave a speech at a rehearsal. Which I got noticed last minute. Of course. I completely. Sorry, I didn't calendar. But it's funny because everyone kept, I had a few, I had two of my friends come up to me and say, oh, you're nervous. No, they're both married.
Starting point is 00:34:09 They both told me they threw up before their wedding because they were so nervous. Steve asked me if I was nervous. I said no. Everyone asked me if I was nervous. I was not nervous for a second. I think I mean I committed to this a long time ago, right? And it's something I wanted to do. So I didn't have any nervousness.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Both of you, I could tell, we're, I was saying this early, I haven't been to a ton of weddings, but I've been to some big ones. And oftentimes the bride and groom don't get a chance to enjoy the wedding. And, you know, even while we were standing there, talking and I was asking if you're nervous because Warren was late, you were still enjoying the wedding. And when I saw you three hours later, you were still enjoying it. Yeah, we enjoyed it. Maybe I enjoyed it a little too much. So I had my blockout diva moment Friday night, and Michael had his blackout diva moment Saturday night. And when Michael gets drunk, God forbid,
Starting point is 00:35:00 I have a couple drinks at my wedding. You didn't, you had more than a couple drinks, buddy. When Michael gets drunk, I'm going to go here a little bit. His hair pops out. His hair pops out. His hair pops out like a huge boner off his head. So erect. You, all your hair, I call it the one hair when he's drunk. I'm like, oh, the one hair's out. You had 40 hairs out. Your hair was going in all different directions, which is really rare for you.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Our first dance is to Metallica. I tried to dip you and you were like, absolutely not. Probably better. I would have, I don't think I was. You were grabbing my ass the entire first dance. Yep. Like you were like, I think you ejaculated on my white skirt. No, I didn't ejaculate.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I missed all that I know you missed that that's rude well I said no we were there for a good length of time Taylor the bare naked cucumber as he's known on the show is on timeout for a very long time
Starting point is 00:35:50 Taylor's on time you guys aren't going to see him for a long time yeah I heard about that he lost his mind he lost his mind he's on timeout I'm building an annex in the office
Starting point is 00:36:00 and he will be working there for the next six months yeah Taylor's Taylor's done but everyone else was incredible and it was so nice to like be
Starting point is 00:36:09 around all these people and not have to like go glad hand everyone and have like conversations and feel rushed. It was like I'd already been with these people for three days and there was only 55 of them. Granted, 75% were men. Yeah. And honestly, like if I could give one piece of advice for anybody that is planning a wedding guy, girl, honestly make it more about having a good time than a production. I think there's so many couples that get married and it's like it turns into. work. No one cares about a fucking filet. And honestly, yeah, like, everybody there.
Starting point is 00:36:43 We had impanadas and, like, street tacos. It's so excited just to party. We had bottles of tequila all over the table, like Steve said. I mean, they didn't last very long, but... Karma was down the whole entire table. They were there. So instead of doing, like, round tables, and I'm going to talk about this on the blog, I did one long, huge Gothic table with all different heights and candles, and I wanted
Starting point is 00:37:03 wax dripping down the candles. And I just wanted, like, black, dark, eggplant drama. I feel like I captured it, do you know? Well, in my, in my, you did capture. We definitely, you were definitely dramatic. Thank you. Especially on Friday night. I had a Sharon Stone Casino, gold dress pony.
Starting point is 00:37:21 In my, in my opinion, people want to come down. People, a lot of times people feel burdened after go to weddings. We're being honest, right? And it's like, oh, great, we got to go to a wedding. You're going to spend money to go here. I got to deal with this. I got to get dressed up in a suit or a dress. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:37:35 No one wants to go. And so knowing that and being like somewhat self-aware, We said, listen, we want to make this a vacation for everybody. We want them to have so much fun. What did you say earlier where I got goosebumps? You said something. We wanted to make everyone else feel special, not us. So the people that were down here, we wanted them to feel like they were special to us.
Starting point is 00:37:56 It was more about them than it was about us. I know we were the ones even married. It was like acknowledging the people and putting a boundary in our lives of who is like so special to us and like who's our ride or die people. and that's why it was such a small wedding. And some people asked if they could bring plus ones. And the reason that we said no to some people is because we only wanted people that we really, really, really, really knew.
Starting point is 00:38:21 You know what I mean? Well, and we wanted to have those experiences with those people where they didn't feel obligated to take care of somebody that didn't know. Because I think everybody, I mean, you're a little bit of a newcomer to our group of friends. But everybody... Six years ago.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah, but everybody knows. Our friends have been friends since 12. Yeah, everybody knows everybody. And the person that married us, we're going to talk about all this on the blog, but the person that married us, Chris Beaton, was insane. He's been our friend since we were 10. I've known Chris since second grade. You've known him since second grade.
Starting point is 00:38:49 And he was just incredible. Didn't you do a good job? He was on brand. You were loving it. He did a great job. It happened to be on ground. There was a whale that jumped across where we were getting married, an altar. Yeah, I had that flown in.
Starting point is 00:39:06 The Michael City had fun. It wasn't cheap. Yeah, that was cute that you did that. He's back in SeaWorld now. And then afterwards we had this beautiful fun wedding, and then we went to the office and fucking sat on the beach and ate chips and salsa and drank margaritas and just listened to Mariachi's play Pretty Woman
Starting point is 00:39:23 and get shots from Rambo. Yep. I'd say it was a success. It was a success. You're both still standing and breathing. Barely. Congratulations. How bad was your hangover today?
Starting point is 00:39:35 It's still going. Are you hungover? No. I haven't been hungover all four or five days. That's a bit disappointing. Yeah. No, I don't like that. That's not enough drama for me.
Starting point is 00:39:45 We have it tonight. Okay. All right. We got to step it up tonight. We're going to go to the Thompson Hotel. All right, you guys. That's Steve. He will 100% be back.
Starting point is 00:39:54 We got to have Steve back in the studio so we can do like proper. We can get some questions from the audience. We can, uh... Steve has a lot of value. One of the reasons he's my best friend is because he has so much different depth and dimension and a lot of layers. So I want you guys to get to know him. Yeah, we're back in the studio next week.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, back at it next week. I'm not, that's going to go well. Back to reality. All right. Remember to send in your questions to Twitter, Instagram, using the hashtag Ask Him and Her. We're also going to be doing call in soon. So if you want to be a part of that, email podcast at the skinny confidential.com.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Ask us anything and anything, anything, anything and everything. And we will do our best to answer or just drop us a line. let's talk. If you guys like Steve, let us know, because he'll be back. And send us questions to our snapshots as well. Yes. Once I get my phone back. Hey, your phone doesn't work. Congratulations, Mr. Mrs. Bostick. Thanks. Should I do a hyphen or just Bostic? I can't decide. Bostick. Bostick. All right. All right. Bye, guys. Thanks for listening to the skinny confidential him and her with Lauren Everts and Michael Bostick. Download new episodes every Tuesday at podcast.1.com or subscribe now on the podcast.
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