The Bossticks - #54: LadyGang w/ Keltie Knight & Becca Tobin

Episode Date: March 14, 2017

Keltie Knight (@keltiknight) & Becca Tobin (@becca) hosts of the "LadyGang" podcast, join Lauryn & Michael for a very juicy conversation about marriage, getting your nipples waxed, spray tanning, laser hair removal, hustling in Hollywood, beauty tips, the realness of child birth and botox..... Michael, is scarred for life! To Listen to LadyGang Podcast click HERE To connect with Lauryn click HERE To connect with Michael click HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Bombshell Body Guide and Meal plan.  tired of combating inflammation & bloat? Want to feel lighter and sexier? Check out lauryn's latest 7 day meal plan. In this simple & super effective plan you'll find: + tsc grocery list with every ingredient you need for the 7 days. + what the f*ck to do when you love carbs guide. + quick and delicious recipes: breakfast, snacks, lunch, dinner and dessert. You will also find 28 weeks worth of fat burning, muscle toning, 27 minute long, effective workouts you can do at home with no equipment. USE PROMO CODE: HIMANDHER at Checkout for 20% Off

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This is the skinny confidential, him and her. We have two-thirds of the Lady Gang with us today, you guys. You guys have asked so many times if they could come on our show, so here they are. We have Becca Tobin. She's an actress and blogger, and Kelty Night, a television host. The Lady Gang's third member, Jack Vianick, isn't with us today. but if you're wondering, she's also a badass and runs her own company, jackvannock.com.

Hi. Sorry Jack couldn't be here. She has a yeast infection. She's at an eight. She's really at that like really goopy milky part where it's just like comes out but it looks like cottage cheese and it smells. Right now she's sticking all different varieties of things up there

to try to heal it. Like Greek yogurt. So look over Instagram. What is it at Jack Vannick? Yeah. Go ask her about it. She's doing her best. So we were talking before.

and we were going to see how uncomfortable I could get from a scale one to ten. And really, I think right now I'm at an eight. Right off the bat. What are you at, Kevin?

I'm at about 11. Kevin's a little uncomfortable. He said that when he first recorded with the lady gang, he had to leave the room. Yeah, we were talking about pooping, which we do a lot of. I actually don't.

No, it's mostly me. Poopie pants, Becca Tobin over here. I like how you guys talk about pooping, though. You guys are so honest. I listen to, your show every week. It's definitely one of the only ones I listen to every week. And you're

funny as shit. Thanks. I feel like a lot of people tell you. Today I told my agent I was like, can you make sure that you're telling other people that I'm a comedian as well? Are you serious? Yeah, because I was like, every time I try to go in for a TV job, they're like, they're only seeing comedians. And I was like, do I have to go do stand up for an hour at the comedy store? Like, I'll just

start calling myself a comedian. I'm funny. I think you could be a comedian. Thank you. Just tack that on to the resume. Yeah. And what we've found about the comedians that have come on our podcast. They're not funny. They're not funny. At all. Zero percent funny.

They have to have like their act, their stand up. And like that's the only time or venue that they're actually funny. Otherwise they're like very odd and they actually don't laugh at anything. They're not. They don't think it's like I think they have to work on their jokes and have their lines like, chicken cross the road. Cause and that's when they're funny. But when you just are talking about stuff, they can't like ramble a funny. It's weird.

It makes sense though. You know who is funny though that has come on your podcast and she's come on ours? She's funny as fuck. Jackie Schimel. Oh, she's really... But I don't consider her a stand-up comedian. Neither do I. She's just a funny woman.

She's just funny. And on Snapchat, she is so funny how she makes fun of her husband. Oh, wait, I need to follow that. I mean, I need to follow her. It's worth it. You can say fuck on here? You can say fuck whatever we want. Oh, my God!

This is exciting. On the lady game, we don't say fuck. Why? Our sponsors don't like it. They're not thrilled. Well, sponsors. Hopefully you don't abandon us. Hopefully ours don't listen.

Yours are probably just cooler. Hopefully they don't give a fuck. we actually interviewed Mark Manson who wrote the book The Stubelard of Not Giving a Fuck Oh yeah Ooh So you have that on my Kind of my Kind of my Kindal for my vacation What are you drinking by the way? This is...

No, no, no, it's not Kool-Aid. Gin and juice It's basically like kind of an energy powder But it's all natural with no sugar It's pretty boring They always say that, but All natural? Just to like keep you going?

It's a crack of the week I haven't had one sip of coffee in four weeks Wow So that's because I've been drinking this. Are you doing a detox? I'm not. That's a good thing to do, though, when we're having a client. I really am not.

It is weird. I haven't. Sorry. Are you there? Michael is really excited for me to get pregnant a little more than me. Oh. Yeah. So there's a lot of pressure.

Yeah. He holds the baby and peers at me out of his peripheral all the time. We're going to go watch a baby tonight. Her sister just had a baby. Very excited. I'm good with babies. Now I feel bad about talking about how gross childbirth is to witness. It's okay.

No, no, no. We're not there yet. Yeah. So you just got married. I did. And how's that going so far? It's good. It's like the same.

I mean, I want to say it's more exciting, but it's kind of just the same. We had already, like, bought a house together. That, to me, was, like, way scarier than walking down the aisle when you do that. You're more stressed about, like, signing the mortgage together. Oh, yeah. What happens if it ends and what happens to the house than you were at all about the wedding. I mean, I felt like the buying of the house before the what. wedding was really our marriage.

And he's not in Hollywood. No. That's nice. I bet that's really nice. Yeah. It's like a breath of fresh air, I feel like. Yes. Because you're immersed in like all that stuff all the time to have your husband not be in it. It's probably really, really nice. It's very nice. Yeah. And you're married, Kelty. Yeah, but I forget my wedding ring today. She does that a lot. All the time. I have a unicorn ring holder that I put my like jewelry on at night. And then in the morning, I just forget. You don't sleep in it? I can't sleep in jewelry. It's two of

Weird. I can I. I can. I'm like, I could sleep in diamonds covering my body. Maybe I could sleep in that. My dog has like a non-going period right now.

Like, I don't know what it is. So like she's just bleeding all over the sheets. So I'm trying to keep my diamonds away from her vagina. That's my. And I had to inspect her vagina really close. I'm just honestly, the only reason I told that story to see what rating I could get. Before we came on air,

we were talking about waxing and I was saying that I'm not a big waxer. And apparently I need to get on board. Have you had any lasering? No, I've had nothing. I shave. I know. People are like shocked that I shave.

If you've lasered six times. I'm from San Diego, though. I'm not in Hollywood. I told her that I would fully, like, I've done all sorts of investments, some good, some bad. A lot of them didn't turn out. I feel like I would fully invest in the lasering and it would be like a really good investment. Like investing in your own studio or investing in her vagina getting lasered? Yeah, the vagina lasering.

I feel like that's a good. Like on her or on everyone? No, on me. No, on her. He wants me to have your laser. Fucking throw in everyone. Will you do ours? I need a top-up. There's a place on Melrose

who apparently, like, for $20, you can get a, like, a laser session, and I kind of want to try it out. A girl I know who is, like, a little bit darker skin, I don't exactly know her ethnicity, she went and it burned her vagina permanently. Because you can't, it works on people like us,

like fake blondes, because it's like if you have naturally dark hair, but you're a white girl, that that's what it works best on. But if you have any sort of like Latina or black or anything that just burns your skin. Okay, well he just sent it he wants me to do it. So now I know.

I'm doing it. Doesn't it hurt? It does hurt. It does hurt a lot. Especially when they do in inner labia and your butt hole. But it hurts, right? Interlavia?

Inner labia. Like inside the lips. Well, thanks for coming on the show. So like, okay, so I almost grow no hair in my bikini line at all. but I do have some labia hairs because it hurt so bad I couldn't go back. Like you have to like go multiple times. Put in the show notes that we're calling the show the labia show.

And then they do your butthole. Your butthole is surprisingly sensitive, which is why I think it's like a actual. When I waxed my butt hole, I feel nothing. Did you do laser? You did laser? Yeah. You didn't do butthole laser? I don't remember.

I don't have a ton of hair like around my butt. You're learning new stuff. Have you ever shaved your butt? And then you're like, whoa, didn't realize I was back there. Have you? Whoops. Oh, yeah. I'm like,

whoa, really let that go a minute. These are the dreams I don't have intercourse in broad daylight, like with natural light flooding the bedroom. No, no, no, you got to be a dark. I do a dimmer. I love a dimmer.

A dimmer is good, a lot of darkness. But don't you remember, like, when you were young, you could have sex like at noon on a grass field. You weren't self-conscious at all about what was happening. When you're 17? Yeah. Yeah, that of those days are over. And I didn't even know you were supposed to wax your nipples then.

Like a full bush nip. Tell us about. Tell us about waxing your nipples because I didn't know that was a thing. People wax their nipples. Okay. It's available. Do I need to do that? I'm not the only one.

It's not a special sauce. I don't know. Are your nipples hairy? I'm going to go look after this. Pull it out. We'll decide right now. Are they hairy? Not at all. You don't have to do you.

Kevin, don't look. He's never seen a boob before. It's so weird. I have a couple blonde hairs, though. The blonde hair is fine. I mean, I used to get that like, Jolene bleach and like bleach my nipple hairs. But then you end up with like the spray tan the place. It's like a bull's eye. It's too much. Too much. The spray tune.

You just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, take it out. The spray tan, you, you have to get strategic when you spray tan. Oh my God. Oh, yeah. I'm doing it tonight. I'm scared. Yeah, I do it all the time. I retired it for a while because I was like, I don't look good. I look crazy, but like for certain things, it's more for like pictures,

not real life. Yes, and you got ask for no red tone. That's the biggest mistake. The red tone, oh, I go in, I go, I don't want any red tone. No red tone. No red tone. You have a good color. I just got a spray tan. What? I do light. I do light. Light, no red tone Because they put red tone in it

And that's what pulls the oranges from the hair And like I want my eyes to look white And my teeth to look white And with the red tone it pulls that out Does that make sense? Yeah, it sounds like I'm going to say that tonight When they come. Makes a lot of sense.

No red tone You got a spray tan with me a couple of times Did you like it? No, I don't think you told him to take out the red tone I didn't, I forgot to And your penis looked like a huge orange coat Wait, you got your penis done? You didn't leave anything on?

I think, yeah, I went like, I just went full for it. No, he didn't, he didn't have someone do it. He, we went to, like, mystic tan. Hold on. So what is your man vagina situation? Because when you get the spray tan on hair, it can be, like, troublesome. I don't. Are you at a ten yet?

I think I probably just didn't pay attention to it. So, like, maybe that was unfortunate for you. I paid attention to. How could you miss it? I just, I went in and I just said, okay, this is, but I guess this is what you're supposed to do. I mean, I don't. The spray tan thing went down and up, and then you came out. maybe you were supposed to put something over it.

Oh, you know what? Now that I think, I think maybe they make you wear like a little like sock thing. Yeah. They do? Or maybe that was your feet. I'm not sure. That's for your feet. Oh, that's for your feet.

Okay. Did you wear it for your feet? I don't think I did. I think I just, I think I just went full in. Good for you. It was this color. Really? Yeah.

But obviously I haven't been keeping it up because now I look like a, you know, a sheet of paper. Do you guys live in San Diego full time? Yeah, we live in San Diego, and we come up here like once a month, and we were coming up so much. so we got a one-bedroom condo. We're not going to come back to that condo anymore because we were telling you earlier. Please. Oh, my God, tell me.

So I think we had carbon monoxide poisoning last night. Really? You know, Kevin's looking at me like, what? So I woke up in the middle of the night, and I saw her go to the bathroom, and I felt, usually I'd sleep right through it, and I felt weird. I was like, why? I had a weird feeling. Like, describe weird.

Like, I just had a weird feeling in my stomach. He said he's connected to me. Like something was going to happen to her. I swear to God, this is weird. That's weird. And I heard a huge bang. and I went into the bathroom. What the fuck was that?

And she's completely unconscious on the ground, knocked out, cold. And like, you know when someone gets like, have you seen like a boxing match when someone gets hit and they're like breathing hard and they're like knocked out? It was like that. And so I'd pick her up. And she came to like 20 seconds later. I know. That was freaking out.

I was like. Did you call 911? No. The whole night, the rest of the night, I was like cold, hot sweat. And it wasn't sick. I wasn't sick. It was like. It lasted like 15, 20 seconds.

Can you just say that you felt it too? So I'm not crazy? No, so I thought the place we have, they just redid this pool in this condo area, and they were like doing all this plumbing and all this crazy construction. And I just thought that it was really dry in the room. And so we got this humidifier in there. What the hell's going on? The humidifier that's blowing carbon dioxide in my face, by the way, with the wet, moist humidifier.

Who has a humidifier, by the way? That's out. Well, it's there. And so, yes, apparently we're blowing carbon dioxide or monoxide in our mouth. So we turned the alarm off. and it went crazy, so we think that's what it is. So you were asking if I had the alarm, and plugged it because it was annoying. Oh, great.

So it started going off. Because we're not here all the time, right? Went crazy when we plugged it in. So did you get out of the apartment? Well, we had to do something in our home today. Well, she's, of all days, she scheduled some photo shoot for a magazine. And so we're in there, and everyone's breathing the monoxide. And I'm like, you guys feeling good?

Like everything away? You guys want to water? And so, we're probably going to get soon now. Yeah, wait. But did it stop going off the alarm? He took the alarm out. I plugged it again. We're not staying now.

Do you guys know people die from this? Yeah. Yeah, but we got to get out of the house. So now I got to like take the steps to figure it out. But no, it was scary. She was completely unconscious, knocked out. We don't know if that's... You did not call 911 ever.

You did not go to the hospital. So I read about this. I was up super late now after the tap and it was freaked out. My adrenaline was going. And I read about it. And they said if it was a minute you got to go to the hospital or call somebody. But if it's just a quick bout, because I got there pretty. quick. I'm not going back to that house

until he gets every single test that he can possibly get. That is crazy. That's how people die. When they want to commit suicide, they go in their car. But if it's in your house and you have windows open? Maybe the windows being open is why you didn't die. Yeah.

We opened them, yeah. It's really serious. Everyone we keep telling is like... That's why you shouldn't use space heaters, right? Because they say space heaters are like the number one cause of carbon dioxide. Great. You have that all all over you're off of. Math. Carbon monoxide.

I don't know. So that's why I didn't. Taylor, if you're listening, throw your space heater. Get rid of the space heat. They're like the most dangerous thing in the world. Okay, let's talk about you guys. Okay, first. We're fine. I'm glad you guys are here because I definitely blocked off this hour and I would have been pissed if you canceled. No.

If you were dead. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I mean, we're seeing like three review, but we're fine. Good. We're good. So, okay, walk us through how you guys met, because I don't feel like I've heard that on your podcast. How did you guys get together and create this idea for the lady gang? Well, you usually tell this story. I'll tell it. Okay. Or you want to tell you want to give it a go?

I'll tell how I met Kelty and then Kelty can tell you how she meant Jack because that's interesting, more interesting. Kelty and I were both living in New York working as professional dancers, not strippers. She was a rockette and I was on Broadway and we would like bump into each other. We had mutual friends like nothing too exciting. We didn't we weren't super close and then we were both out in L.A. for our, you know, respected jobs, and we would bump and do each other. And, like, when you're from New York, since people in L.A. are so weird.

Assholes. No offense. You're not from L.A. send you. Yeah. So we really, like, kind of gravitated towards each other. Because we're real. Yeah. We also, like, didn't have, like, rich parents who, like, produced our first movie. So, like, we could understand that we both hustled our asses off. That's what I get from both of you is hustlers.

She hustles harder. My hustle's so deep. And Becca, her nickname in the lady gang is clutch. Because whenever my hustle has failed me and I'm just like, this is not working. This is what are we going to do? This is disaster. I call back and I'm like, we need this, this, this. And she's like, hang on one second.

And she like texts someone and then it comes through. Like clutch. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Every time. When Michael asked me to describe you and like tell you guys what you guys are all about and they're hustlers, you guys are funny, but you're also hustlers.

It's called Desperation. Thank you. Well, it's also called, like, being over 30 in Hollywood. You either die, not literally, but your career either dies or you have to get, like, really crazy and a little, like, borderline psychotic to, like, claw your way back in or to stay there. The new thing I heard today is people are looking for nostalgic talent. So not only, like, do they want all the fresh faces on TV, you know, like, oh, she's so fresh. Like, you're not fresh anymore because you've already been on a hit TV show.

They want fresh or they want like Luke Perry from 90-200-0, who's now coming back to TV in every week or whatever. Yeah, it's like nostalgic talent. So we're fucked on two parts now. Yeah. Because we're not nostalgic, nor are we fresh. That's gnarly. But you will be nostalgic in like 20 years.

Thank God. Anyway, so we're in New York. So then we run into each other here. And then we just sort of were like, let's, we're so sick of the Hollywood thing. And she'd be interviewing me on red carpets. And I would be like, saying, saying like the craziest dumbest, like basic bitch things, not really being myself at all, because I just sort of felt like you have to fit like a prototype when you become a Hollywood

actress. And then I just got really bored of that very quickly. And she was getting bored. And we were like, let's just like create something where we can't get fired. We can't get told to like be prettier or better. Like it's ours. It was kind of around the time at my job where I had gotten a note that my eyebrow, the space between my eyebrows that went when I was standing on like and they were looking in the monitor, the space between my middle

eyebrow by my nose that goes up and the eyebrows that go sideways was too much of a triangle like right here and they wanted someone to fill that in. And I was like, this is a ridiculous business. I have got to get out of here. Like, this is insane. I'm getting an eyebrow note. Like, it was so crazy.

So you really got a note about your eyebrow. Yeah, eyebrow note. I hope you saved that and framed it. No, no, no. Like a note, like the producers in your ear being like, can we get some makeup, kill these eyebrows? And 75 people are involved. It's not just a personal note.

It's a note that everyone hears. The director, we need makeup, makeup, make me. Like, it's crazy. It's got to make you guys really, really confident, though, too. Because it's like you almost, you've heard every single thing you can possibly hear about yourself. I mean, at some point, you got to, like, have tough skin. I feel like both of you guys are like that. Well, you get tough skin, and then you also get, like, really low self-esteem.

Yeah. Like, my mom, always growing up, like, she really fooled me because she was, like, a great mom, and she never pointed out my flaws, and she was always like, you can do anything you want. You're so beautiful. Like she was trying to really like, you know, everyone gets a trophy,

my like self-confidence. And then even as a dancer and a performer, you know, the auditions, like you never got to find out what was wrong with you. If you didn't get a job, it was just like on to the next. So when I started working in TV is when I really started hating myself

because you see yourself on the TV all the time and then everyone can comment. And that's also like coincides with social media. So it's like, that Kelty girl on the insider's face looks like a horse. And you're like, how do I not internalize that? Like, it's horrible and people are so cruel.

And it's just nasty. And how people have gotten worse, I feel like, with social media, they think it's the worst. It's insane. Yeah. That's why podcasting is an ideal business for us because it's like no one can see our faces right now, even though we are hot. We can wear sweatpants and no one can fire us. Yeah, that's cool. We can say whatever we want.

We can say the F word. There's no person going to sue us for that. And it's more about substance than just looks. Thank you. Are you funny? Do you have something to say? Oh, anyway, so Beck and I met. And then we were like, we need a third girl.

And she's like, I have this friend, Jack Vanek. And I was like, I know Jack Fanick as like a fashion lover. She has this clothing line. And she's like the ultimate, like, cool girl. Like she's just like, she's just cool without trying to be cool. It's super annoying. She's chill. She's super chill.

Kind of like a dude. She's like a bro. Yeah. She doesn't try to be cool, but she's always like, now that I've spent so much time with her, I'm like, you don't try at all. Like, she's never like, what jean she? I get? What shoes I wear? She just comes out. Like, today in our Lady Gang Facebook group,

we have, like, a secret Facebook group. She was planning her Coachella outfits, and she's like, I need a bra top that's made out of chain metal. Where can I get it? What did you say? She's like, where can I find this chain mail bra top for Coachella? And I said, nowhere, because you should not wear it. I mean, some of the things are a little crazy, but she's like, she's a total, like, Cali girl.

Yeah, she's real crazy. But they, Kelty and Jack, have a mutual ex-boyfriend. And that's who was like a 90s rock star. Early 2000s emo rock star. Okay. And she dated him first, didn't sleep with him. I think she's lying.

She's a horror. And then I dated him and slept with him. And then... He was so horrible that they bonded. Yeah, he was so nasty that after it was like, we're like this, like, punch up. Like, I got you. We both made it through. So you thought you should bring her as a third person into the lady gang?

And then how did you guys get to podcast one? Like, how does that transpire? We took a lot of meetings. and we just sort of felt like this was the right fit. And a year later, we're still here, so they haven't, like, really messed up. Yeah. And I've kind of now figured out who the culprits are

that leave all the lipstick all over the mics. Oh, my God, it's me. It's her. I was wondering who it was, because I come in and I see it every day. But what day do you guys record normally? Randomly. We record from our closet, too. Oh.

Yeah, we're, like, not fancy. We're, like, in the closet, like, with our chihuahuas, Sometimes we'll do Skype recordings and it drives camera nuts. Oh, those are the worst. It sounds so bad. Yeah, I know. Sometimes our sound isn't 100%. How do you guys not kill each other working together?

We don't. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. I'm very, very abused. No, you're not abused. You look like it. How did you guys meet? When we were 12?

Excuse me? She's been chasing me a long time. No. You were 12? We were 12 years old in sixth grade. But have you had sex with other people and other than each other? Oh, yeah. That's all that.

We weren't together. No, no, no, no. No, I'm not one of those. Okay. Not that there's. anything wrong with that, but we met when we were 12. Been a lot of people. For him.

No, there's not a couple for me. Not a lot. You're not joking, though. You went to you of A. So get real. What's you of A? Arizona. Yeah, the harbor to the desert.

You haven't heard of it? Wait, is that the number one party school in America? Yeah, that's that. Wait, I have an ex-boyfriend who played baseball there. What, how old is he? 31? He's probably around. I'm 30.

Oh. You'll have to ask his name. What's his name? Not on air. Chris? Maybe. We all heard you. Yeah, we all heard you.

Oh, shit. Maybe you listen. Did you go to U of A? What's the other Arizona school? ASU. When you're in college at a university like that, do your friends care if you're,

like, say you go and sleep with a girl and then like two weeks later, you're like, well, actually like her friend and sleep with her. Like, is that, do people care? I bet it's just one incestuous. Like, do people care when it's like their roommates? We'll rephrase.

Do people care? Or do like my friends? care or do the women care? Do the women care? Or was it, like, was it just one big like fuck buddies's orgy? Like maybe if you were dating someone and you like screwed their roommate when they were in the other room like would they care? Let's not make this.

This sounds very specific. What happened with Taylor? I think it depends on the person probably. Now we're at a 10. Cut, cut. You think it depends on the person? Cut. No, you think it depends on the person? I mean, some girls don't care and some do, right?

I think all girls care. Or maybe they all care. I just trying to act like cool girls. Like they don't care. Oh, Becca's, no, Becca doesn't care. Beck is a boy, though. Beck has never been dumped. I don't think I have either.

What? Oh, look at that. See? When she always says that, I'm like, oh, neither. I haven't dated a lot of people, though. I've only dated, like, probably like, four people, so that's not a lot. So when did you guys get together? Sorry, I had to take my hair extension out.

That's fine. Are you out of ten? No, he's not. These are all over his house all the time. We got together when we were 12. He was like my first kiss, first, kind of everything. Where did the first kiss happen?

On her vagina. No, no. Your giant 12-year-old bush. Yeah, yeah. It was funny because we were a little bit ahead of the times. And there was a... You don't say. We would go to the movie theater.

You know, back in the day, you go to the movie theater and you make out. Yeah. There was a mother. I'm not going to name her. because we all know, but there was a mother at our school that would follow us to the movie theater and sit in the back and then report to all the other parents. She would literally sit through the whole movie and just, which now I'm thinking it's pretty creepy because you're watching like two 12 year old kids make out. We aren't just making out.

Yeah. You were getting fingered. One or two. I hope your dad's not listening to this one. Oh, God, sorry. We will tell them not to listen. Yeah. So aren't you guys married?

We're married. Dad, she gets fingered. Oh. And she likes it. I guarantee she doesn't currently get fingered because who really gets fingered anymore. I don't have time for that. No, you don't have time to get fingered anymore.

You got to move along. No, no, no, no, way too busy to get fingered. I know. I got to post an Instagram. So we dated. You're so uncomfortable. It's amazing. He's wishing he'd called him sick today.

I love it. I think that monoxide poisoning is kicking in. Someone's... Call the ambulance. You're fine. I'm fine. No, I'm fine. I feel like I talk about way more.

If you can stick your fingers up it, you can talk about it. That's true. I love how you're playing. And she's playing with her hair extension, which is so short. Yeah, how is that so short? Because my hair's short. Mine's like, mine's like a rat tall. So we went our separate ways and then we came back after.

What age? At what age? 14. We went our separate ways at 14 and got back together at 21. 22. Oh, excuse me. I don't have like to like, wow. Dating year.

We got back together. And then I took forever to get married because I didn't care. Neither did he. Like, I liked being engaged. I loved being engaged. Everyone leaves you alone. Yeah. It's amazing.

No one asked when you have a kid. And I would have stayed engaged longer, but we had a deposit down. We were engaged for like four and a half years. And now we're married. And like, like you said, I don't feel like a lot has changed. Yeah. Well, if you've known each other since your fetuses, really. A long time.

Yeah. Yeah. I know everything about you. Oh. It's a little scary. So we are going to talk to Kelty about how she met her husband, but first I want to tell you guys

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He always tells everyone like when, Chris, we were working together in some capacity, and we had become Facebook friends, and he was like, hey, can I grab your number? And I thought it was about work. And so I gave my number, and he called me. And he was like, I was trying to ask you out. And we were like making small talk. And then you're like, okay, I got to go. I got to print something. So me, right? It's like I was working on my to do list. So how long did it take for him to like get with you? He met me three times. He says, I have no recollect. of meeting him whatsoever. He says he met me at the office and he's like, I came to your floor because one of your producers is like, there's a hot girl you should meet. I don't remember that.

Then I was in Austin at South by Southwest and I met him then again, don't remember at all. And then I was trying to hook up with this. She doesn't even really drink. No. And I was trying to meet up this hot photographer and someone was like, oh, are you going to, you know, this guy's birthday party? And

I was like, it's hot photo going to be there. And they were like, yeah. I was like, cool, I'll go. And so I went to the party at it was my husband's birthday party. And that's like the first time I met him. But she was there to see a hot photographer. Yeah. And how long did you guys stay engaged before you got married?

Oh, we were engaged a long time too. I think we're engaged like almost three years, two and a half years. I think that's like... I don't know why people have to rush that. I mean, not that there's anything wrong with it, but I just... I think everyone's different. Everyone's different. I feel like you should do whatever is good for you.

You got to, I mean... But the moving in part's the hardest part by far. For sure. Yeah. Like, it wasn't... Yeah, it's the same. It's the same. Yeah.

Moving in together. Our cousin got engaged on the same day as us, and so this is a really, I don't think you know this story. So we go to Christmas dinner and we got engaged on Christmas Eve or something, like one of those basic bitches that gets engaged on Christmas. And we go to Christmas and literally like we hadn't said anything to anyone yet. And we're sitting in the living room and like the other cousin comes in. She's like, we have news. We're engaged. And I literally like turned my ring around and was like.

looked at Chris and was like, do not take this moment from her. I would have taken that fucking moment. Are you kidding me? Yeah. I'm engaged too with this extra, extra big diamond. You want your own moment too. You wanted your own moment?

I don't care about my moment. I felt so guilty because Chris and I were assholes. Like we have this really kitsch, cool life. And like, these people, this is the biggest thing that was ever going to happen to them. You know what I mean? So you gave her her moment. Yeah, we have an exciting Hollywood life with like, you know. And what does your husband do?

Is he in Hollywood? Yeah. He's a music manager. Okay. And so is that nice to come home to at the end of the night that he's not in front of the camera? No, because a lot of times pop starlets are calling my house at 3 o'clock in the morning. Are you serious? It's bullshit.

Whoa. I do not want my husband hanging around with some of these girls. I don't blame you, especially at 3 in the morning. He might be a closet ass man. And I don't have the ass to keep up with that. I have a flat mom ass. No matter how many squats I do. You're doing BBG.

Yeah. Everyone wanted to know about that. Really? Yeah, a lot of people asked about that. Do you do it? What do you do? I just do... You keep that toned in tight.

Ton it tan it? I just... I do a lot of strength training and Pilates and yoga and eating health. I mean, it's nothing... No magic. Die from carbon monoxide once in a while. Yeah, that helps. And no pizza in podcast one.

I mean, you know. Fucking pizza out there. Tell me. A lot of people are interested in your weight loss journey. I don't know if you want to call it weight loss, but toning up. Yeah, I was skinny fat. So I was on, when I was like 22, I went through my, a lot of people have this. I think when they go to college, right?

You like gain some weight. And then I lost it all and I was real fit and cute. And then I had all these years of dancing and I was like really, real cute. And then when I stopped dancing and I started being on TV and like different schedules, stress, like it all just like kind of like 20 pounds. It kind of creeped up on me. And I'm someone that, I'm a pair. And so my weight was like in my stomach. and in my butt and in my thighs, but, like, you could never see it because I always wear tent dresses

and stuff. It's like, you wouldn't really be able to tell my face a little bit, I think. And then I just decided that I was going to, I'm going to Tahiti next week. And I was like, booked the trip in August, and I was like, I'm going to get so fit. And so that I started looking at all those Instagram bitches with their, like, six-packs in their bikini, like a fitness model. And I was like, I'm so inspired. I also hate you.

And so I started doing the BGB, and I do it, like, five days a week with my makeup artist. And it's been awesome. I will say this, but you do berries. I'm going to say this. I spent a lot of my life trying to lose weight by doing a ton of cardio, whether it be like cycling or, you know, treadmill or whatever. And I think for someone in their 30s, if they're not already seriously doing some weight training,

they should add that in. Because I think since I started, and Beres' weights, right? Just doing cardio doesn't work. Yeah, it's like I do 38 minutes of kind of intense, like, squatting, lifting with like 10 or 20 pounds, you know? That's exactly what I do. And then, and that's all I do. Like, I don't have to do cardio.

I don't have to spend two hours at the gym. Like, I was doing Tracy Anderson for a while, which is, like, a two-hour class of, like, dancing around in the fucking hot weather, and you're so hot. And I was, like, I'm not losing the weight. And the minute I started doing, like, waiting squats, my butt was like, you know. Yeah, that's exactly what I do. I do quick strength training, like, 26 minutes, like, so quick. And then who has time for, like, an hour of cardio?

If I can, I'll do intervals for 20 minutes, but I don't have time to, like. Yeah. Plus, I feel like, I feel like running makes your face sag. and I feel like it makes her food sad. Yeah, and I just don't, like, I don't know why anyone would want to do that when you can do other things. And the other thing I'll say is my makeup artist Rebecca, she's quite curvy and like she had two kids. And so people were like, I mean, you were fine before. Like, everyone has their own personal, like what's fine and what's not.

Like, we have very different body types. It's worked for her in a different way that it's worked for me. The most important thing, if anyone wants to know what was like really the clutch for that program, A, having a workout buddy. I know you and Zach go to Barry's a lot together. It's like having someone that's like get up. going today, don't let me down. And then secondly, the progress photos. Yeah, the progress photos are good. I took a, I took a, um, photo, and then every week I take a new photo, and it's really motivating. And how long have you been working out like this? 34 weeks. Wow. Yeah. That's

dedication, especially, because you've sat on the lady gain, I don't know, this is still true, that you wake up at like four or five in the morning. Yeah, I get up pretty early. She says it every day. Yeah, it's very annoying. I don't know if you know this, but I guess. She's a real martyr. How do you wake up at five in the morning? TV. You just do. I mean, it's. I mean, you guys would start early, right? Yeah, you just get on like another... What time you go to bed? It depends.

I think that's why I'm so tired. If I don't have a night, like a shoot at night, I try to be in bed by 9.15. Wow. Yeah. That's intense. That's discipline. Yeah, it's discipline.

If I put makeup on at 5 in the morning, it's like putting makeup on a pig. I know. But I don't have to put on my own makeup. That's the different. You go in. Like, I go in, yeah, sure, really early. But for the first hour, I just sit there

and someone, like, blow-drys my hair and applies, like, makeup to my face. And do you sit on your phone or you sit on your computer? We just listen to music and chat and like visit. I'm close with my team. That's amazing to have hair and makeup in the morning. I feel like. Have you ever tried an ice roller? That's the first thing I would do if I had to wake up at 5 in the morning.

Oh, just like for the anti-influen. It works so good in the morning if you roll it on your face before makeup. It's like $12 on Amazon. I should get that. That's a great idea. I'm obsessed with it. I cannot wake up without rolling it over my eyes. I mean, I look like this in the morning if I like to use it.

So do I. Like, like, I look horrendous if I don't use an ice roller. I also have to use, like, I have to do a lot of things. I have to do the iPads. Like, I got to use, like, before I put makeup on. I mean, for someone like me, like, I just feel like it just doesn't look good in the morning. There was, like, the other day on Thursday, I went to work, and my makeup artist was like, whoa, you have two black eyes. Like, sometimes I'll be so purple, but there's nothing makeup can't fix in good lighting.

That's true. That's the truth about all the Hollywood girls. Oh, yeah. Girls are ugly in Hollywood. They're not as cute as you think. Oh, yeah. It's the lighting, guys. What?

Yeah. Wait, someone told me that Gwen Stefani walks around with lighting. Like a lighting team. That's not true. Mariah Carey does. I don't know about Gwen Stefani. That would be, I don't know. Gwen Stefani loves a lot of light, but she doesn't walk around with a team.

I love a lighting team. But she also has a lot of wrinkles. Yeah. Gwen Stefani is wrinkly. What? Yeah. Allegedly. Allegedly. Just kidding.

I mean, I feel strongly that I can report that. She looked great the other night on the voice. She's her fate. She's stunning, but like girls got a crow's feed. Like she's not... Good for her. When they blast her out with Photoshop, it looks like she's like perfect porcelain skin. I can't even believe how some of these girls look.

They look perfect. Yeah. It's all lighting. Okay, so before the girls give us a Hollywood beauty tip, I'm going to talk to you guys about Zola. So while I was planning my wedding, I had no time. As you guys know, if you read the Skinny Confidential, I needed something quick and efficient for our registry. which is why we used Zola. And Michael even liked it.

Well, it's great that you call it our registry because you have locked me out and not giving me the password. Yeah, it's really efficient. If you want to do that for your husband or your fiancé, you can just lock them out and steal the password. Basically, Zola is the wedding registry that will do anything for love. Couples can register for the brands they want on an easy-to-use platform with the ability to personalize everything. I love it. I love a good personalization moment. It's a one-stop register, you guys.

So you guys can go on with your husband or your fiancé, and you can just register for whatever you want. You can find sheets. You got a wine subscription on there. We did a honeymoon fund, and we also did a charity. We picked the colon cancer charity and a dog charity so people could choose to donate to those two charities instead of giving us a gift, which I thought was kind of a different way to do gifts. Well, they make it really awesome because you can pretty much customize anything. Yeah.

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Visit zola.com slash skinny for details. That's zola.com slash skinny. You guys give everyone who's listening, because they love beauty secrets, some Hollywood inside beauty tips. Fake hair. I mean, we talk about this all the time. Like, there really isn't one person that you watch on TV or in movies who's wearing their real hair.

Not one. Not one. Whether it's a clip in or an extension or like whatever, like nobody has their own hair. Even if their hair is up to their shoulder. like underneath too. Even if it's a short haircut, they still have pieces in there to like make it full and beautiful. And a lot of wigs. Like a lot of white girls wearing wigs?

Yeah, a lot of wigs. A lot of wigs. The Kardashians are almost exclusively just wearing wigs at this point, all of them. Is Kim's long straight hair? That's a wig. I want a wig. Back in my younger years, it kind of, it used to, I didn't know what it was at the time when you'd like reach your hand up a girl's head and then you'd pull out like a whole bunch of

stuff. I still love that happened to you every night at you obey, though. I mean, I just didn't know what I was dealing with back then. It's a little, that was like, girls were starting early then. But that was also the bad extensions, like the big tracks of like, yes. Yeah, you know, you like, you reach up. A halo. And then you just, you're like, you're like, you're like hands stuck.

And you're like, what? There's glue in your head. It's pretty sexy. Besides hair, like, do you think they're, I mean, obviously we all know plastic surgery filler. Oh, yeah. But like, is there anything that they do that, like, these girls that are listening can do at home? Is there anything easier? or is at all expensive, complex stuff.

I do think that eyebrow tinting can be a very powerful change to the face. First of all, finding somebody who is good at brows, but also tints them. Because like when you have lighter hair, your eyebrows really, they look like they might be like, you know, thinner or like kind of like scarce. But then when you go in and you dye all those hairs dark, you're like, oh, my God, I have this huge amazing brow that I never knew that I had. Like, I'll go in and tint my eyebrows like every couple weeks because it's, and it's like gives me a new face. I 100% agree.

Yeah. That is definitely probably one of my biggest beauty tips. I ask for a double tint. I'm so addicted. Yeah, I know me too. Because it also wears off pretty quickly. It's so annoying. I'll go back.

She's like, you're back again. Yeah. I feel you. I did it to you. I made Michael get a facial and I went in on his facial while he was getting it and getting a massage. I was like, can you throw a tint on me? She's in there. I'm like, you know, I'm trying to relax.

You know, it kind of hurts sometimes. For five days after his facial, too, he's like, how good does my skin look? It does look amazing. I looked like an old saddlebag before this facial. Wow. You really come up. I love that you're a believer. Yeah, I came up.

No, I was not doing too hot, for sure. Okay, so double brow tint. Yeah. A spray tan. A spray tan is good. I think... Yes and no with the spray tan. It depends what kind.

Yeah. We've covered that. I think my two things are preventative Botox. I think there's this nastiness that people are like, I don't want to get Botox until I'm old or whatever. Like, I started getting Botox when I was like 25, 26. And like the earlier you start, we just had Kate Somerville on one of it.

And so if you haven't listened to our Lady Gang podcast, listen to the Kate Somerville episode if you only listen to one. Because she's like the skin guru who basically made Becca look like the prettiest bride of all time. And like she was talking about preventative things that you should start doing in your like mid-20s. And it's so tox. And it's obsessed with the men's weird. on my face.

Shaving your face is amazing. Yeah. A hundred percent. I try to tell people that and they look at me like I'm crazy. No. I love to shave my face. See? When I steal your razor to shave my face, don't give me shit.

No. You could get your own though. Yeah. No, I get worried when you use your... I got a little mad when I was... I get worried when I catch you using my razor to shave other things. Your vagina? And then I have to shave my face or I, or I shave my face and then I look what she's

I didn't have anything else. What can I do? What she doesn't tell me. I'm resourceful. I don't have time. I understand. She's got no time. The other thing that's really good that people can do in a lot of like smaller towns and stuff have it now is the photo facial. Have you done one? The IPL?

Yeah. I didn't. It didn't. You didn't have it. If you're someone like me who's like Polish mixed of some sort and you are someone that gets freckles or like age spots, I think you're a little more fair than me. Like those like it looks like you have freckles but you actually just look dirty. You can go get an IPL photo facial. I actually photofacialed my entire body before my wedding. And it brings them to the surface and then they come off and you have like baby porcel. skin again. It's really magical. And they're not expensive. They're like $250. I need that. I have a sun mustache. Really bad sun mustache. Yeah. That's from waxing your mustache. I know. And I used to wax it when I was younger and it's still here. I know. It won't go away. It'll really come out when you're pregnant. Oh, I can't wait. Wow. Can't wait to have that. Wonderful. I can't wait for it to come out. I was like, so I'm going to see your butthole stretch to an incredible side and you'll have a mustache. Are you sure? You, you know,

Are you sure you still have baby fever? That's what you should do to him when he talks about you getting pregnant. I must have. Just send him a YouTube video of like the hemorrhoid grapes coming out of your ass while you push her baby. My sister like called me after our first couple podcasts. She's out of ten. Well, this will put you over the edge. I'm going to have a meltdown.

She calls me and she's like, really? After like our third podcast, we were talking about me being in the room and coming into the hospital room after the fact, like after the baby, they're cleaning him up. I thought I was like safe. And they go to like change her like diaper because that's another thing. Women put on diapers after the baby. You have to wear them for weeks. And I am at the wrong place in the room where I see like straight up her hoo-ha. And then there's like a bundle of grapes coming out of her ass.

What do you mean? Looks like a bundle of grapes. Kevin's traumatized. Wait, what do you mean about? It's hemorrhoids. It's like these angry marbles coming out of your butthole. I have to Google. this. Yeah. Like a marble? Marbles. Like it's clear? Like a whole like purple. Do you know what's funny

too? Not only am I at a 10 and above, but there's some, I just figured out that there are some men that listen to this show. They come here for some marketing and business things and they're probably sitting there right now. Shit. They need to know what they're getting into with the marbles. Oh my God. I'm sorry guys. Yeah. We feel really bad. Don't you feel better guys that someone's told you now so you can be a good supportive husband? It's true. Because you want to be like, like now you know what's coming. I had to worry. I had to Walk into the hallway and fell down, like slid down the hall in the hospital because I fainted from seeing it. You seriously fainted?

I fainted. Like full, like, knocked out. Fainted. Like, I am stupid. I cannot handle like blood, guts, whatever. And I like go out in the hallway and I like lean against the wall. And my dad's like, are you okay? And I'm like, don't go in there.

And like slide down like a horror movie. Oh my God. Yeah. I feel like you would do that if you saw marbles on me. I don't know what I would do. Also, girls poop. 50% of women who give birth poop right there on the table. What happens if you have a...

C-section? We could always do what Michael's dad did when he was born. What did he do? What did he do? He went and got a suite of the hotel across the street and waited for the doctor to say, like, yo, he's here. But my mom wanted him to do it. No, she was like, go out.

I feel like I get that. I understand that. She wanted him out, and then he did that, and he had a couple drinks, and then they said I was here, and he shot over and said, hey. That's kind of amazing. I mean, but if you think about it, like, they've been married now for 30-something years, so you're not going to get out of that easy. Maybe that's the trick.

Maybe I just got to go across the street to the bar and just wait for it to be finished. You need a marble moment. You know, they called us up to go, they called us up to go see her sister's birth. Uh-huh. Well, no, we were not in the room. Oh, I was like, but they jumped the gun and we were there for like forever. Yeah. 25 hours waiting.

Yeah. That's what you're going to have to do with me. So get scared. Get ready. That was irritating. It's a long time. Okay, so you guys were talking about Botox, so I have a story, and I'd love to hear both of your opinions. I can't believe that this happened before I was going to interview you.

I'm excited. Okay, so the other day I was talking on the phone to a brand about a partnership where basically I would put a couple links on the skinny confidential. It's a media property. A media property. A woman's media property. Women's. I was talking to them on International Women's Day, too. Oh, good for you.

P.S. Thank you. So it's just like a link show. It's like not a big deal. Like they put a couple links on their site. I put a couple links on mine. Like you scratch your back. I scratch mine.

Or other way around. Anyway, so I was talking to them. The guy was kind of like making me feel like they were way bigger than me, which they are. And I was like down here. Like, you know, we're up here. You're down here type of thing. So I get off the phone. Tom, I'm going to send a proposal over.

So two seconds later, the phone rings back. And I pick up. And for five minutes straight, I hear them. bashing me. Like the worst things you can say about a person like this. Ew, she is so disgusting. What a stupid bitch.

She's full of Botox. She is so nasty. She talks about plastic surgery. She is not coming on our platform. That is so funny that she's going to send over the proposal. What a waste of time for her. But like, it was like for five minutes straight. And it wasn't like, oh, she's stupid.

It was like, ew. I can't believe we were talking to her. I didn't know that was her. And keep in mind, he was in the room with two women. Well, keep this in mind, too. They strung this conversation along for three months. They would have just come and said, hey, it's not a fit. They approached me.

They approached me. They approached me. If they would have said, it's not a fit, okay, cool, bye, you know? Or no problem. Don't you want to say who it is? Like, I mean, I would, like, blow their shit up. You can kind of, if you read the blog post, I just write. Okay, okay.

Read between the line. That's so shitty. Yeah. Her readers have kind of figured out who it is, and they're kind of blasting the brand right now. Good. You know, here's the thing that's my problem. It's like, What you see is what you get.

And so when I have a conversation with someone and they tell me, send the proposal over, that's what I'm going to go do. I don't understand why it's necessary to hang up the phone and talk about someone so disgustingly for five minutes straight. So I told them, I was like, I'm on the phone, you guys, I'm on the phone, you guys, I'm on the phone, you guys, and they couldn't hear me. So I heard for like five minutes and saying all these nasty things. So I get off the phone and I sent an email and I said, you know, I just wanted to let you know that I just called you back to let you know that I was on the phone for the full five minutes that you were bashing me,

and I won't bother sending the proposal over because you said how disgusting I am and how you don't want to work with the skinny confidential. And they hate the podcast, apparently. They hate the podcast. Broke my heart. Broke my heart. I love how you make it about you. It's about me.

They have horrible taste. Just really rude. So anyway, the guy wrote back the gnarliest apology because he was so awful. And the girl wrote back a half-hearted apology. The point is, is like, I just, I feel like, in this town especially, and New York a little bit. It's so many people you encounter like that. Oh, yeah.

What do you, like, what do you do? I'm, like, I'm from San Diego, and that's not the way a lot of people that I'm friends with operate. That is, like, Los Angeles in a nutshell. This actually happened to an actress friend of mine who was supposed to do a movie with this really famous director. And she got the script, and they were talking about it. and then she wasn't comfortable with something happening in the movie. And so she had a phone call with this director to, like, discuss it.

And he was so accommodating and, like, so nice. And then he drunk dialed her later and left a voicemail, not knowing. He was, like, out with his friends. And it was a conversation about her in the same kind of, like, situation. Like, who does she think she is? She's terrible, like, horrible, horrible things. She dropped out of the movie and was like, fuck you. But I feel like that happens so much in Hollywood because I think two things.

One thing is everybody knows the best way to feel good about yourself is to like tear somebody else down who's doing well. And the other thing is like we're all so deeply insecure that it just like it's become this like habit to go there. And I became very aware of that. And I started like kind of, I talked about this on our podcast that I started like slipping back into that like mean girls thing from high school. and my husband was like, what is this?

Like, this is like the grossest behavior. And it's, but it's like, it's everywhere. And it's hard to, like, not participate in it. And it's hard to deal with it when it's. I will say, I think there's this whole, like, I don't want to say, dove beauty campaign because they're not paying for sponsorship. But you know the whole, like, everyone be yourself and be authentic. But there's actually, when people are saying that,

there's only one kind of authentic they're okay with. It's true. And so when you're authentic about like, hey girls, you know why I look like this? Because I've been getting Botox since I was 25 and it's a spray tan and this is not my real hair. They're like, she's so gross. Like, well, that's like, I actually think you're doing a disservice to women everywhere. If you don't talk about that stuff.

Because they're looking at you being like, your eyelashes are so long. Why don't I have eyelashes like that? They're fake, you know? It's like there's not one kind of way to be authentic. If it makes you happy, great. We had a guest, Cheryl Burke, come on. And she said, you do you. That's my advice to everyone.

That is totally. The funniest thing is I'm in the marketing field, and I went back in and checked all their back links, and they've talked about Botox so many times on that side. So it's just, I don't like the hypocrisy of all of it. Yeah. By the way, Michael emailed them and quoted their Instagram bio, which is all about women empowerment. Shut up. He just sent the bio. That's amazing.

It's like one of the last things that's like something, it says like something about empowering women, this and that. I'm all for that great. But at the end, it says expressive. And I just quoted their bio and then did the like laughing emoji face. I said expressive for sure. It's just like it's unbelievable. No, it's fine. You know what?

It gave, it gave me fuel to write this blog post about this issue because I'm, I like am so candid on my blog. I talk about my boob job. We talk about Botox, jaw surgery, death, like everything. And so to be bashed for being candid and authentic, like I don't, I just don't understand. Like, should I hide stuff? I think it would have been cool if they were just like, listen. and we don't like Botox and we don't like what your brand's about.

Cool. Yeah. Say later. But the fact that, the thing that made me upset is they were stringing us along for months and we have other things to do. They have other things to do. And then they say, okay, get this proposal. And then they're on the phone saying, ha, ha, she's going to do all this work just in the proposal. We're not even going to look at it.

It's like, damn. It is very Hollywood, though. I feel like that's a very, like, I feel like that happens all the time. Oh, yeah. In you guys's industry, there's a lot of, like, pushing other people out of the way to make yourself look better. And I just, I'm a believer. in collaborating, not competing. And I just, it just seems like that's not like the case with a lot of things.

Well, I think the reason Hollywood really like grasped on to this whole women's movement and like the whole women empowerment is I think we all sort of felt like we had been doing such like dirty work the last couple years. And then you hear like, you know, these people talking about collaborating instead of competing. And all of a sudden this like light bulb goes off in your head and you're like, all this this time I've been tearing other women down and we've been like clawing at

each other to like get jobs and it's like it's so much easier to do that and I think that that was like for Hollywood right now it's like it's amazing but it's also we're the people reacting the strongest because we're the guilty like the guiltiest of it that makes sense and your interview with

Ryan Murphy on your show was like one of my favorites that you guys have done. He's awesome he's incredible and how he's bringing the show feud. How appropriate free is that. Amazing. Yeah. It's, it's, I always say, you know, like, it's really hard, even in what I do, like, I know with Becca and actresses, like, it's very competitive, but there's legitimately, like,

six girls in America doing my job. I know. There's no one, you know? And so when I go to audition, it's, like, the same 15 people every time, and you feel like you want to, like, get at each other and prove why you're better than the other person. But the truth is, is, like, you're going to get the thing that you're meant to get. And, you know, and you're going to get the guy you're meant to get. you're going to, you know, get the life you're meant to get. If you work hard, try to be nice to people. But then there also is this double-edged sword because I know on the lady gang we struggle with this.

We love to shit talk a little bit, too, about certain things. Like, it's fun. It's a weird, like, how do we be empowering and be, like, a gang of women that want to, you know, help each other and not tear each other down? But we also want to, like, read us weekly and be like, that dress is fucking ugly. You know what I mean? There's, like, a hard middle balance of, like, where... I think we're, like, Robin Hood, though.

because I feel like we really don't go in on someone unless they've gone in on other women. That's true. Do you know what I mean? Like I do feel like we're kind of the spokespeople for the underdogs and like we're not going to pretend every woman is amazing and great and like empowering and beautiful. If you're not, we're going to say you're not. And I think it's like if it's terrible that we're like patrolling Hollywood like this, whatever. I mean, don't act badly. I think there's a way to be funny and have a sense of humor and then there's just mean.

mean, cruel. There's that Warren Buffett's partner, Charlie Munger, is one of my favorite old men. And he says, to get what you want, you have to deserve what you want. Oh, I like that. I call that a mere message. Oh, he has so many. You do?

Hold on, I got to write that down. Can I, hold on, I'm going to shit. I might be misquoting it a little bit, but it's basically to get what you want. You just opened Pandora's box. Tell me all your mirror messages. Oh, he has so, you, a mirror message? Email me. To get what you want, you have to.

Deserve what you want. Deserve what you want. Deserve what you want. Yeah, that's not for me, though. That's Charlie Munger. Actually, he's got a lot of really good things. Michael has, like, all these quotes like that. He even has, like, stoicism on his background of his computer. Yeah, I like quotes.

My dad's a big quote guy. Big quote guy, so. I mean, I could hug you right now. If you weren't married, I'd divorce my husband and marry you. You want to just sit... I'm going to steal that man right from underneath you. We could email each other quotes back and forth. Oh, my God.

That sounds really sexy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not the biggest mere message person as you are. No, I need... I send these quotes along and she's like... She's like, I'm busy right now. It's like all day long. This is so deep.

I'm so inspired. There's so many questions all day long. All day long. He calls me from the store. I'm like, figure it out, you know? He needs you. Today I had to get these candles. And so, which she'd think, okay, you think getting candles is easy, right?

Get the white candles. This is like a completely, now we're going like a complete size area. I have nothing to do with anything. But the only candles that were available were the really long ones. And then Jewish. pair candles. There was only ones in white. And so I'm trying to tell him, like, I really don't know what to do here. I thought he meant the Jesus white tall candles.

So I was like, just get the Jesus white tall candle. It's 45 minutes back and forth. She's like, how hard could it be to get the candles? So I just got both of them. And they both didn't work. You didn't take, like, a photo and send it? No, because she was getting her hair done and she was ignoring me. So she'll ignore it, you know?

Yeah, I ignore. Everything I ignore. I turned my notifications off for everything. And at this time, I still was a little delirious from the carbon monoxide. Yeah, see. He was just, he's going to blame it on that. for the next 20 days. Why did you need white candles?

I just wanted white candles for our house. It was being shot. We needed candles. He has ugly, disgusting lavender purple candles all over the house. We have a buddy of ours that stays there, and he bought the lavender candle. I'm not a lavender candle guy. Not that I have anything against lavender candles, but just, you know. Okay, so tell us, before you go, we want to hear about Jack, too, because she couldn't make it.

Oh, yeah. Jack's a whore. Actually, Jack was called a whore, like, her whole entire, like, just, because, beginning of her career. So she used to, she's a huge music fan, huge, like, emo, whatever. And she's like, very, like, undercover emo. And she went on the warp tour and was like, like, a little Penny Lane moment for her, like a groupie moment. And then she started making these rubber bracelets and they just had, like, cool things written on them. And they started, like, flying out of the place. And I think it took a really long time for her to be taken seriously as, like, a vendor

and a designer. And anytime, like, she wanted to get, like, in with the tours, a lot of the other women would be, like, we're not fucking letting her in. She, like, is a groupie. She, like, blows all the artists. Meanwhile, she's, like, a virgin. She was a virgin until she was, like, today. 55.

So she, you know, so it's just, it's so funny because she's just been hustling ever since. Yeah. There's no one I've ever met in my life who has a more, a keener eye for branding than Jack. And that's what's really incredible. She's created her entire clothing line that's sold in, you know, like top shop and Zumi's and it was sold at NastyGow. All these, and she designs everything.

And when we came together for Lady Gang, I was like, well, I know I can produce a show because that's what I do every day. And like, but Jack was like, we have to use this color of pink. And like these is what the photo, when we went to the photo shoot, she had made like four separate Pinterest boards

with like makeup inspiration and wardrobe and like what the branding should look like. And she runs our social channels. And so like everything is cohesive and it's Jack. Like, she's just so good at being like, this is on our brand. Like, this is not something as our brand.

And it's really cool. She's very smart. Yeah. She's funny, too. Her saying is on her stuff is really funny and really clever. And everything she does, she knows people, I mean, from what I see, she knows people are going to comment and share it because it's something that you want to comment and share on.

We launched a subscription box this year. I saw that. Tell us about that. And it's sold out now. So we'll send you the next one. And she, we made a little makeup. bag in it, you know, and so this time the makeup bag says,

life's a bitch, but so am I. I love it. So good, right? I love it. So what's in the upcoming lady box? So the one that's about to ship is an exclusive Jack Vanek pouch that Kelty just mentioned. This Kate Somerville product that we cannot live without, it's, it's, look at me,

exfolicate. You're so beautiful. Oh, I heard her talk about that. Yeah, it's insane. It's like her magic product. Yeah. We have a bandana because at Coachella last year we had these bandanas made with like the lady gang embroidered on it and girls were like where can we get one we want one so we had

them made and then we got like this cheek and lip tint she has it it's like pure 100% pure it's like this all natural vegan cruelty free like yada we're so L.A. right now well I love it you can put on your lips too lips and cheek yeah

what else oh the earrings oh yeah and like a crawler so we just sort of do things that like we love people It's kind of just like pieces of us and like our favorite things. Like you know how Oprah used to do like Christmas like her favorite things? Yeah. But they were like cars and refrigerators.

Ours are like ear crawlers and lipstick. And the box is branded. So cute. I don't know if Jack did that or yeah. She did everything. Very, very cute. Yeah. The whole thing is super cheesy.

We sold out our first one in 40 minutes and like crash the website. That's insane. And also tell us about your secret Facebook group because I know you guys. Are you in the Facebook? No, should I be in it? You need to be in it. Please come in it and then we'll share your newest blog entry in the first. I would love it.

I would love it. I will come in the secret Facebook group. But you cannot come because the only men who are allowed in have to show themselves sucking a penis or making the guy. It's going to be tough, but I'm going to have to live with that. You'll be missed. Kevin, pull it out. We're like, you have to prove that you're gay. I'm pretty sure we're going to get sued.

But, like, sorry. We just talk about too many personal things to have heterosexual men in there. And so is it like a thousand girls? It is 100 girls. This conversation is going to hold me over for a really long time. We have like just over 8,000 girls, but we get like hundreds of requests every day, but I personally go through and look at people's profiles. Like, not everyone gets approved.

Like, I go through your profile and I see what kind of girl you are. Like, what are you posting? What do you post about? And you have to be like, like-minded. And then you get approved. And in it, we post all the time, which I think is the coolest part. But we share everything from like, how do I find this dress? I'm getting married.

I'm having problems with my husband. I'm applying for a job. Everyone, like, you know, cheer for me today. It's, you know. Also, like, girls that are like, I'm moving to San Francisco and I don't know anything. And there's girls that are like, we live here. Like, meet us for coffee. We'll tell you all about the city.

Like, it's a super cool. That's such a good idea. Some of the girls just. Yeah. I love that idea. We have Australian lady gang and they just posted a picture. Like, they all went and met up, like, all the Australian girls in Sydney, like, went and had, like, a date together.

That's cute. It's really neat the way that it works. And I think it's, the moment I knew we had created something special is when Jack got a raging yeast infection. And she posted it in the group. And the rule of the lady gang Facebook group is like, it's like Fight Club. Whatever happens in the Facebook group stays the Facebook group. And if you post, if you screenshot or post anything, you're kicked out. So she posted, guys, I've had this raging yeast infection for a week.

What the F do I do? I've taken the drugs. I've done whatever. And we had hundreds and hundreds of girls being like, take an apple cider vinegar back. stick or whatever. So the secret sauce, and I tried it last week when I had a raging yeast infection, is to coat a tampon in coconut oil, and then you put the tampon up, and that's what makes your yeast infection stop itching. I am really pissed that I'm not let in. He's at 12. Don't worry. Don't worry. She can tell you the highlights like those.

That is a great tip. Yeah, but it's that kind of stuff that you like, where else can you talk about that stuff? Wait, that just like made the entire podcast that tip. That tip's incredible. It's really good. It stops itching right away. Okay, but the reason yeast infections normally is because you don't know I'm probiotic right I don't know too much about it or you have a nasty edge I get a million UTIs but I like every second every second

I pee after sex did I look at a penis I have a UTI yeah yeah yeah I did I stay in my wet bathing suit for 20 minutes after the pool and not changed I have a UTIS did I wear jeans today no like my initials are UTI so I totally get the UTI wait thank you well thanks for listening

So the yeast infection, you take a tampon, you put coconut oil on it, and you stick it in. And you stick it up there and leave it in there for like two hours. Okay. That is a tip. I think we're going to end on that. I think we should. But before we go, tell everyone where they can find you, I know that you guys are big on Instagram, like, pimp yourself out.

Please follow me on Instagram. I need so many followers. I'm the lowest followed lady game member at Kelty Night. It's Becca Tobin and definitely go to the lady. gang. Yeah, and the ladygang.com. And you can find them on iTunes. You can listen to their podcast. When does your podcast come out? This one? Yeah. Tuesday. Every Tuesday. So after

you finish listening to Skinning Confidential, come on over and listen to Lady Gang because we come out on Tuesdays too. Unless we've terrified you and then you're just really not our people. No, you guys want to be in the secret Facebook group. I love how you honk when you laugh. All right, well, we've completely grossed out, Michael. Michael's going to go take a bath.

I'm going to take a cold bath. He's going to be like in the fetal position in the shower. I'm going to go lock you back in the carbon dioxide apartment. You know that, what is that, what's that movie with Jared Leto where the girl, like, really gets taken advantage and then, like, she's just in the shower.

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. That's, like, too deep. Like, that was not the right, that was not the right example. I think she had been raped. Is that how you feel? Requiem for a dream. Yeah. All right.

Well, Kevin and Michael are traumatized. Thank you guys for coming on. Thank you for having us. Find them at the Lady Gang, you guys. All right. Thank you guys for listening to that super juicy episode. And we will be back next. Tuesday. And I will keep working on my intro.

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