The Bossticks - #70: The Fat Jew aka Josh Ostrovsky - Wild Stories, Lunch with Kanye West, and Paris Hilton

Episode Date: July 11, 2017

The Fat Jew (@thefatjewish) aka Josh Ostrovsky is a social media content commentator,  television personality, actor, Author, musician, fashion designer, vintner, the first male plus sized model, and entrepreneur.  On this episode we get into an assortment of topics. We dive into the crazy/wild stories and experiences The Fat Jew has had throughout his career, a lunch with Kanye West, and his relationship with Paris Hilton and Cat Marnell.  We discuss building a wine brand and the controversy surrounding internet content ownership.  We Brought Wine (White Girl Rose, Babe Rose, and Family Time is Hard Pino Grigio) can be found here Follow Lauryn  Follow Michael  This Episode is brought to you by Canna-Pet.  Canna-Pet is an organic CBD supplement made from industrial hemp that is non-psychoactive, safe, legal and produced specifically for animals/pets. Canna-Pet is a holistic alternative to pharmaceuticals. It helps with things like arthritis, anxiety, inflammation, pain, allergies, seizures, vomiting, cancer and more. For healthy animals, it's a healthy supplement for longevity like eating your vegetables. We used Canna-Pet to help our dog Pixy recover from temporary paralysis and we continue to use it to help with her arthritis. USE PROMO CODE: PIXY at checkout for 50% all purchases

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She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you alone for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. Aha.

Welcome back. Welcome back, everybody. We are back. We are back actually from Vegas. We just landed from Vegas at 11 o'clock. San Diego time, 11 o'clock at night, after a quick 24 hour turnaround in Vegas, had to get over there to do a beauty convention. And as our guest today, the fat Jew would say, we are mangled. Yeah, we're kind of mangled. I mean, it's 1136 p.m. I'm fucking tired of shit. Michael has

thrown me around the airport. He decided instead of getting an Uber that he would get a taxi cab, which was quite interesting. My God, guys, we almost missed the flight. I almost had a meltdown. but I have good reason. They just opened, actually, I don't know how recent it was, but they opened a carbone in Vegas in the Ario Hotel. For those of you guys who don't know about Carbone, I'm sure if you're from New York, you do. It is Italian food that is game-changing. I had to go there. I was with Weston and Lorne, and I had to show them the ropes.

I had to let them know what was up. And now Lorne is a convert. Yeah, I love Carbone. I'm kind of obsessed. I love the prosciutto and melon. The melon is perfectly cut out. I'm really obsessed with it. Well, we're there.

The waiter is probably looking at me like I was a psychopath because I was just screaming orders at him. I said, we need the melon, the prosciutto. We needed the Dover's soul. We needed the veal. We needed the rigatoni postics. I was trying to get everybody in assortment. But also, I told this guy, he needed to get it all to me within 45 minutes because I needed to jump out.

So literally, I was shoving veal down my throat and paying the bill at the same time and jumping out of the restaurant. It was pretty annoying, if you can imagine. This is a place where you're supposed to enjoy, like, a long, leisurely, like, meal. And I probably slammed three or four martinis in 45 minutes, a whole veal chop, a whole bowl of pasta. It was a sight to be seen. But we made the flight. We did make the flight.

And we were there way early, so we could have had more bread. So we don't want to keep you guys waiting too long. We have a great guest today that we recorded it earlier this week. It was hilarious. He's pretty funny. Like honestly, I think he is the funniest guest I've ever heard on a podcast. He just gets it. And I want to say that, like, what I like about him is that he's 100% authentically himself

and he doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks about him. And I'm sure he would have liked Carbone tonight. He would have liked Carbone. I feel like he would have had 10 more martinis than you and maybe extra capers. But what I like about him is he just is really himself. Yes. And I bet he could slam a good deal chop real quick with me. I feel like he could.

All right, guys. With that, we are going to hit the sack and crash because, as the fat Jew would say, we are mangled, but we hope you enjoy this interview. Enjoy. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. The Fat Jew, aka Josh Ostrowski, is a social media god. Television, personality, actor, author, musician, fashion designer, Vinter, the first male, size model and entrepreneur. Is there anything you are not? Oh wait, I forgot about your

cameo on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Most of you guys know him from Instagram from his memes and social commentary. He boosts an impressive 10 million followers. And if you haven't been living under a rock, you've also probably seen his wine company, which produces white girl rosé, Babe Rosei and Family Time is Hard Pino Grigio. Hi, Josh. What is up? One thing I'm not, who said like, what am I not? I'm not handy because I'm Jewish. Like, I can't hang a fucking shelf. That's for sure. Nothing. That's good to know. That's good to know. But your brand on Instagram is insane between the fat Jew and your wine company. I mean, Michael and I are constantly laughing and like sending each other your memes. I mean, regardless of the memes, which I

always get a good laugh out of, I literally, I think I spent two hours last night going over all the commentary on the on the wine brand i was just i was dying laughing i was looking at your billboards and all your slogans is hilarious my particular favorite is the gin tastes like dirt it really does gin taste hurt gin jill jill jill jill jill tastes horrible and it'll like break up your family it's bad don't drink that just drink rosé it'll make you happy i agree so tell us for anyone who doesn't know you a little bit about how you got into the whole instagram scene and how you're into the wine scene now. I was like,

I used to be a rapper. I was in a group called Team Facelift. We were kind of ahead of our time. Like, we played a show once with DMX where I came out in a, seriously, where I came out in like a bulletproof vest and a thong with Timberlinds on and people were like, no, I hate it.

Absolutely not. This is horrendous. So we were like kind of, we were kind of a little bit ahead of our time. We were into all kinds of crazy shit. Oh my God. Hold on. Mom.

enough. How many times a day can this woman call me? So, I should have said that was a celebrity. Wait, hold on, can we do that again? Tofer Grease is calling me. Hold on. Hold on. Tofer, I'll call you back.

So, yeah, so I did like the rap thing for a while. We were like a crazy... We were actually one of the only artists who was on Myspace Records, the short-lived MySpace records. Shout out to Tom from Myspace. After that, I got into, like, TV stuff. I was on the E-Channel for a while.

I interviewed like shitty celebrities. I would like, you know, I'd interview like the Real Housewives of Phoenix or just like whoever nobody wanted to talk to. And I sort of, you know, developed a reputation as like a sort of a great American idiot. You know, I did, you know, I was doing crazy shit, you know, way before kind of social media was even around. Like I was, you know, it was all that stuff before it was, you know, minute to minute shareable. So by the time Instagram came around, it was basically just a tool for me to like just be a

moron. I was just trying to make people laugh. I used to work with Vice a lot. I used to write for Vice, and I did a couple of their shows. And I was just known for, you know, having STDs and being ridiculous. And then Instagram came and I was just kind of, it just kind of happened. Like, I was just kind of posting to make people that I know laugh and like, you know, kind of like Jewish girls who were like threes and fours with rough hands that I want to sleep with. I was trying to make them laugh. And like, it was really just for my people. And then it kind of just started growing and, you know, growing and growing. I mean, the coolest thing about Instagram is, like, how much it's kind of, like, given me kind of range on, like, the ages of people who are into me. Because when I was doing

more stuff with vice and the rap stuff and, like, you know, the more ridiculous shit, um, you know, it was mostly, like, people, like in there, it was mostly like, you know, people from 18 to, like, 29 who were, like, you know, taking bong hits and, like, were, you know, college morons. But, like, Instagram, just because it's so widely used, I now have people, you know, who are, like, eight years old. I had like an eight year old Puerto Rican girl come to me on the street not long ago and be like, yo, you're not even that fat, yo. And I was like, damn, that's fucked up. But like, and then like an 80 year old woman will come up to me and be like, you know, like, sloshing around like white wine and be like, I love your stuff so much. So Instagram is really

like kind of widen the range of people that I can connect with, which is really fucking killer. Was there any kind of strategy when you were doing this? Or you were like, I just want to do this for fun. Like did you, did you go into us thinking that you were going to have a platform like this and be able to launch different brands and business through it or you're just you're just having fun at the time? I mean at the time I was pretty much just having fun like obviously like I knew that like with the numbers would come like kind of you know a kind of soapbox to have a platform with and like obviously you know you know an audience with which I could you know one day you know leverage into something but at the you know at the time for most of it like I don't have like a social media team I know like I know people

like I know there are like influencers who hire like social media like branding companies you know, like, who like use buzzwords and are like talking about like snackable content and like synergenistic cloud iterated, like social media trends. But I'm not really into any of that shit. Like I basically just find funny stuff and I put it up and I say the things that I would, I would normally say. I'm not like, you know, I don't have like a team of like social media guys named like Jeff and Dave like telling me like what the best posting times are on a Tuesday.

Like if I've done, if I've like, you know, put some coke in my butt and it's four o'clock in the morning and I see something funny, I'm going to put it up at 4 o'clock in the morning. Like, I don't, this isn't, I don't, I don't run it like it's a business. As it, as it got bigger and as the audience grew, you know, obviously there were some, there were some ways to, you know, to use that audience to talk about all kinds of shit that I want to talk about. But I've never, like, I've never approached like a business. It's really just funny shit for, you know, I mean, I obviously now there's pressure because

also, like, you know, I always say, like, once you find out who's following you, you know, you start to feel some pressure because I used to just like put shit up and be like, this is funny. Like I'll write some ridiculous stuff about it. But now that I know that like, you know, some of my heroes are following me. Who's like some of your biggest heroes following? Like Rob Lowe. I'll be pretty pumped on that too. That guy's

shit. Yeah, like, Brooke Shields. Like, one, Brooke Shield was like, I love your stuff. I was like, now every time, like, I get a little stoned and I post something and I'm like, is Brooke going to think this is funny? What if Brooke unfollow me? You know, so it's like, you got to like not think about the fact that like all 10 million into those people or like real people.

And I don't know if Stanley too, she follows me, but that would be a hero. Stanley, I don't know if you listen to this podcast, but please fucking follow me. Oh yeah, he tunes in every week. Right, right, the toch. The toch is a big, he's a big podcast guy. So, yeah, like, you know, now, but, you know,

I try not to think about, like, you know, even though I'm obsessed with Brooke Shields and I would, like, pick corn out of her poop, and I love her and I'm obsessed with her. Like, I try not to, like, get too caught up in, like, what people like, and really just do kind of what I want to do and what I think is funny

and I think that's really resonating with people. What's like the weirdest shit that happens to you on Instagram? Like do girls send you naked photos? Like I want to hear like the weirdness that goes on behind the scenes. Well, like what's the weirdest request? I get a, well, nudity-wise,

I get a lot of dicks, which is really killer. And I think what mostly it's like, it's less sexual and it's more like, you know, people make offers to me to go and have really weird experiences, you know, like, just invite me to things that are really crazy, like, whether, and it's not about money, it's not about business. It's just, like, I'm, I try to say yes to as many of them as possible. I've been to, I've been to two proms as people's dates. I went to a, like, a Mexican kinsenera. I had some, like, Saudi

guys invite me to come on their boat, like in, uh, to come on their boat. And, uh, they had, like, a live ostrich on the boat, like, in the south of France. So, like, I get these, like, crazy fucking offers of people. They're just like, come to this thing. And I'm like, okay, I think that I will. I've officiated six weddings. Two of them were like tasteful and gay. And I just like pretty much anything that people like asked me to do, I try to say yes,

like just for the fucking experience. I mean, literally these Saudi Arabian dudes were like, come to the, come to fucking the south of France. We have a yacht. They flew me to the south of France. I went on the yacht. They were like, we need. They were like, you know, they're kind of party animals.

These guys are like fucking billionaires. They're like, we need to show you something. They take me down below the deck of the thing. I'm assuming they're going to show me like fucking grenades or like gold bullion or whatever Saudi billionaires are into. And it turns out they have a room, a giant room with like a hundred inch flat screen TV and just a live ostrich. And he's just chilling.

It was just sitting there? Was it standing or was it sitting? I think that makes a difference. And like, no, it was standing and looking kind of actually when I came in, it was kind of sitting, but then it like rose up because, you know, ostriches are. fucking like, they're wild. Like, you don't want to fuck with them. So they were like, do not go near him.

Do not touch him. Like, they had an ostrich they can't even play with because it'll fuck you up and like poke your eye out. The best part about it was that the ostrich's name was Bradley Cooper because they were like obsessed with Bradley Cooper, the actor, which is really weird also. And I just remember like thinking to myself in that moment. I was like, how did I literally get here? And the answer is that they slid into my DMs, honestly.

Is there anything like, I mean, these are all like just such absurd experiences. Is there anything that you've said no to, like something that's just too far over the line? Yeah, there were like these like finance dudes, like some real fucking high octane like hedge fund guys. They were like, dude, they were like, bro, come on our, we're taking a private jet to Vegas, like host our private flight. And I was like, I don't even know what that means. But I'm not getting stuck at 30,000 feet with like a bunch of hedge fund white guys on Coke. Like that's a nightmare. That is way too far with like no way to escape.

I'd literally have to parachute out of the plane in order to escape. But I got, I got a matching, I mean, I honestly, I barely said no to almost anything. I've got, I got matching, I got matching tattoo with a, with like, a 19-year-old girl in Portland, like, just because she asked me to. Like, we got matching tattoos. So, like, I'm pretty much down for, like, almost whatever. The flight with the hedge fund guys was, like, a little too far, but, like, there's very little fucking, there's very little no in my vocabulary. Okay, so tell me how your tattoo with Peres-Hil. comes about though. I want to hear that story.

Paris is like, Paris is like, she's like one of the greatest American treasures that we honestly have. Like, I'm not even, we went to high school together for a little while and then she got kicked out, but like, you got to remember that Paris like invented the modern day influencer. Like, Kim Kardashian literally was her

fucking intern and like organized her closet. Like this, she invented the, for better or for worse, the modern day like culture that we have of just like fucking rampant selfies, influencers, getting paid to party, getting paid, like all the shit. Paris literally invented that game.

She was like the Magellan of the internet, literally. She was like the Magellan of modern day celebrity and modern day social media. So I've always been like obsessed with her. We knew each other in high school. We were at some like weird. We were at some parties together, but we never like hung. And then we now we like, now we hang. And she is like so fucking smart.

Like obviously she's, you know, she's much smarter. Like she'll never admit that she's so much smarter than she. You know, her old thing is like she's on some like, yes. killing it, yas, killing it. Like, she literally says 10 words, but when you really get to know her and she opens up, like, she's super fucking smart. And, like, people don't really know, like,

how much of a fucking queen she is. Like, she has sold a billion dollars worth of fragrance in the Middle East. Like, she is so fucking popular in, like, Jordan, Oman, Qatar. Like, people see her in Asia and they literally weep and barf and pass out. Like, she's not even that popular in the United States anymore.

So I, like, started hanging out with her, and she's just unbelievably fun to hang out and she's like obsessed with virtual reality she's like getting stoned and like showing me crazy VR like it's really fucking next so I was like look I want you to give me I want you to give me I want you to autograph my body

I just give me an autograph my arm and I'll get a tattoo and then she was like told me she draws this like raver kitten character so I had her draw it on me and I was down I would let Paris Hilda design every one of my tattoos I'm so down like she is a literal fucking she's an actual queen

Speaking of crazy celebrity experiences, you've had a lot of really out of this world experiences. I was reading something, you were doing some memes in Kanye West and then you hung out with him, but he seemed to be okay with it or didn't notice. And is it true you had Wendy Williams name your daughter? Like there's just so many crazy experiences. Yeah. My kid is like about to be born. And a bunch of months ago when my girlfriend was like, I don't know, maybe three months pregnant. Like right after we told people, I was like, I yeah, I let her, I let her pick.

the name. Some of the names were wild. She also could have chose her own name. It was like... Are you really gonna name? Are you gonna really name? Yes. 100%. I'm like, I take this shit way too far. Like, basically my entire life is basically performance art. Like, a lot of these people are doing it for the camera. They're doing it for the snap. They're

doing it for the fucking vine. Rest in peace. But I'm like doing this shit. Like, I'm doing this shit for real, for real. Like, if I, yeah, I let her name the baby and I'm definitely going to name the baby that. Like, I don't, I don't just do it. I don't just do it for the episode. Like, I'm not gonna I'm going to let Paris Hilton, like, draw shit all over me and I'll get a tattooed. Like, it's not just for the snap.

So I also went out to lunch. I went out to lunch. I went out to lunch with Kanye West. Well, that's what I heard something about it, but it's funny because I've seen you do some content on him before. Was he like pissed or did he care? No, no, no. He wasn't like pissed.

He was just insane. He basically was like, yo, like, he's just screaming the entire time. And then he like, he at the meeting, he like tried a wasabi. pee for the first time in his whole life. He had never tried a wasabi pee. And like in the middle of everyone else talking at lunch, he was like, yo, and I watched him. I watched him eat it and like kind of like recognize that he liked it. First of all, so weird that he never had a wasabi pee.

But he started like screaming and was like, I love this shit. I love wasabi peas. Like I want to fill my house with wasabi peas. And then he had this like Russian guy who was at the lunch who never talked. He was kind of a bodyguard. I don't know what his deal was. But right when Kanye started saying he wanted to fill his house with Asabi peas, the guy got up and left the lunch and didn't come back. And I'm assuming that he went to go fill Kanye's house with wasabi peas.

So that guy's insane. Like he's like, he's another one. Like he's like, that is not when the camera's on. Like he's at lunch in the middle of a crowded restaurant, like literally screaming, being like, yo, I'm going to buy an alpaca. And people just like looking at him being like Kanye West is literally screaming in the middle of this restaurant. So he's like kind of awesome and kind of unbearable. Okay, I just finished the book How to Murder Your Life, and I am in love with Cat Marnell. I, like, love the book.

And she talks a lot about you in her book. All nice. Are you still friends with her? What's your relationship with her like now? I am, yeah, we are still friends. She, um, she's another one. She's a fucking, she's a great American. Salute to Cat Marnell.

She, um, she's another one like me, you know, she, she, she wouldn't just write about it. She really does this shit. Like, she's like, she's so over the top and so ridiculously smart. Like, that's, like, she's another. she's a Paris type honestly like as as as as dumb as she is and as much dumb shit as she does like she knows exactly what she's doing and like she's fucking brilliant she's a great writer um yeah we like we don't hang as much as we used to but like we've had some really really like wild times we actually live together we live together in san francisco in like this giant house like this beautiful house that somebody rented like 13 of us live there and just like it was absolute fucking insanity she has seen me do like some of the crazy craziest shit. Like she's, you know, she's watching me like smoke a joint. Oh, wait, was it her? Oh, no, it wasn't her pubes. I smoked a joint of her friend's pubs. Well, you know, there's like a, there's a common theme here, right? We're like Kat Marnell, like you said,

she's very smart, Paris Hilton smart. Like you don't build brands and content and you as well. You don't, you don't build the type of businesses and the content that you guys have all built without having some intelligence. I want to make sure that people understand that you, you know, It's great to be yourself and put yourself out there, but you've got to have some kind of wits about you, or else you're just another dumb son of a bitch on the road. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, I think that, I think time will, I think time will separate a lot of people who actually kind of know what they're doing with all this with people who kind of have no vision whatsoever.

Because I think the influencer wave is kind of crashing. Like there's no, there's not like this entire economy of like a Filipino thought with a bubble butt, like holding up like a fit tea or like a, you know, like some kind of like weird nut snack. for money it can't go on forever so you know there and there are some people out there who want to like build real things and do real shit which is why I started the rosé because I wasn't just kind of like hot product for somebody else like I wanted to I you know I wanted to do my own marketing and my own shit and like I'm not mad at anyone who's just like grabbing it checks because they have a lot of followers and like want to promote a product but like I wanted to build something

bigger and like those those two those two women in in particular they know exactly what the fuck they're doing so you know I'm not mad at like some hoes or like some dude with dick lines in a six-pack, like getting paid to like hold up some product. But that shit can't go on forever. But some, there are some people like using social media to build like actual real killer shit.

So how do you start to build this rosé company? Obviously you content marketed. You know, I think you've had your Instagram account for like a couple years. How does this wine come about? I mean, like once I, you know, I had a lot of followers. And again, I was like, oh, I'm not trying to like,

you know, hold up a Pepsi and like hot product for Pepsi. Fuck that. So I was just like, what do, like, what do, you know, like, who am I connecting with, like, on my social media? Like, who do I love? Who loves me? And, like, what do they want? And, like, I fucking love rosé. It's delicious.

And then, you know, a couple of years ago, right around the time when I was thinking about doing this, there was a rosé shortage in the Hamptons. And it was like, it was in the post. Like, the New York Post was like fear mongering being like rosay shortage in the Hamptons, like white women like white women are running through the streets, like hoarding bottles into underground silos. um like people fearing for their lives and you know i didn't want my children to grow up in a world where there's not a fucking rosé god you know yeah because god forbid because you know not and not all heroes wear capes you know so i was like let me you know not on my watch so combination of the fact that it's fucking delicious and that rosé is like it's not like wine rosé is different it's like you know wine is like there's like notes and tech flavors and all

this like nerdy shit rosé is like if it's cold and it's taste good, it's delicious, like you can pour it, you know, drink it or pour it in the fucking hot tub. It doesn't really matter. It's not like, it's not so fucking highfalutin. So, I just wanted to make something that people would drink to turn the fuck up, um, have a good time. Also, everybody loves rosé, like a 22 year old girl named Ali loves rosé and like a 67 year old man loves rosé. So like everyone can fucking party on it. So I was like, let's just like, you know, I didn't know shit about wine. We literally like took a little money, bought some fucking wine, like tasted a million different wines, found the perfect one and, like, bought a bunch

of wine and then just started selling it. Like, honestly, it was completely ridiculous. Like, I don't know shit about wine, but it doesn't matter because, you know, like, it's just about, it tastes good and it's just about having a good time. And, like, don't be a dick about it and tell me about, like, the leathery finish and, like, the notes of, like, apricot and honeysuckle. Like, it's fucking rosé. It's a good time.

So how involved are you now in the day-to-day of that operation? Are you on the brand side? Are you on the logistics side? Like how heavily involved do you have to be with that business? I'm on pretty much all sides. I do like, it's like four of us. I do like, I pretty much do like all the marketing with these guys. Like every billboard you see, every Instagram post, like the packaging, like absolutely fucking everything.

And then we, I mean, you know, we're like, we're the bad boys of wine because there were no bad boys of wine, obviously. It was the easiest title ever to get. So we, I pretty much am like a part of everything. Like especially now, now that the thing is like, I mean, we're nationally fucking. It's a huge thing now. So, you know, a lot of his, like, planning events. We're literally, we have a part. Where are you guys located?

We go back and forth between San Diego and Los Angeles. Oh, you're in L.A. right now. You're in one of those two. Yeah. Because we're having the fucking most Mondo. Like, tomorrow we're having the most Mondo party. Because, like, what are wine parties? They're like wine and cheese and, like, fucking, you know, like turtle net?

I don't know. Or d'oeuvs. So we're throwing, every year we throw, like, an absolutely psycho fucking blowout. Last year was at, like, this huge fucking mansion in the Hamptons. and this year it's actually tomorrow it's called the Pink Party and it's on a boat it's like 700 maniacs

Diplo is DJing and like we have fucking Rose A Slip and Slip and Slip and Slide Rosey Hot Tubbs like a puppy petting area for like anyone who's on Molly who like wants to pet a puppy people like we have live tattoo artist so people get tattoos that just say like Rosea or our brand name or whatever the fuck they want

or Rob Lo's face if you're me and so like I plan a lot of that stuff and so I'm involved in like a whole I'm involved in almost every aspect of it. Okay, so we're going to get on a plane to the Hamptons right now. Is that where the party is? No, no, the party leaves from, it's in the city.

We take off on the boat tomorrow. We're out for like three hours and it's just like complete fucking mayhem. Is someone going to die? Probably. Like, I'm glad this is on record because like most likely somebody will. Because these things get really crazy and like you walk on the boat and somebody hands you a bottle with a long

straw in it and now you're just drinking an entire bottle of wine immediately. to start. So like people are mangled. Definitely they're going to people are going to get UTIs. It's going to be there are going to be a lot of questionable decisions. I always get a UTI after too much rosé in a wet bikini. I mean UTIs are miserable. I mean I don't know because I don't get them but I have to hear about it. Oh yeah they're miserable. You know a lot about it. Okay. So you're a lot of people probably going to get yeasties because like the way you're in a bathing suit and then you like go home and you pass out drunk and then you're like

hung over now you've been in a wet bathing suit for like 17 hours and like you might get a yeastie. It'll be a medley. It'll be a medley. So obviously you're killing it, you're crushing it, but we want to hear about some of your mistakes. Like, is there anything along the way that's been a hurdle? Um, I don't, not necessarily. I mean, you know, like the internet is fucking confusing. I mean, everything that I do in real life. I mean, I do so much real life shit that I think some people like really only know me for the internet stuff.

But I do so much real life shit. I throw like a huge music festival every year called IRL which is sponsored by four loco and like every like I have huge fucking DJs I like Dylan Francis R. O'Grime like crazy DJs and everything is free you come to like a fucking 5,000 person rave in an airport hanger and like everything's free from the booze to the fucking to the tickets you know again another UTI all free and like I try to do as much you know and I think that all the real life stuff I've done is probably been complete um an utter hot fire lava I think the internet sometimes can be confused in that like, you know, memes are weird and, you know, you never know who the fuck you're really dealing with. You know, like there was this whole like fucking fracas about fucking memes, you know, like two years ago.

And it was like, I kind of got caught in the middle of it. And it was like, you know, you just got a lot of different people. You know, it's like, you know, you're like memes are like, everyone looking at my Instagram is different. There's a 16 year old Korean blogger looking at my Instagram who doesn't give a shit about memes or intellectual property or like who owns what. Then you've got like a 40 year old writer and he feels totally different than a 16 year old. Korean blogger does. So a lot of conflicting viewpoints and, you know, I kind of got thrust into the middle of that. I wouldn't necessarily consider it a mistake, but it was, you know, kind of fucking, it was kind of unfortunate, although I did like get chased by TMZ, like in my

Uber and they like ran after me through a supermarket and that was fire. I felt like Matt Damon for like 10 seconds. So maybe it was all worth it. I mean, there's a lot of people that wanted us to ask you about that. My stance on it is that like I look at memes from a multitude of accounts and You see these memes pop up, like, if you post something or somebody else post it. You see them pop up on multiple accounts. So, like, I always thought that it kind of got blown out of proportion. But, you know, it's how do you know where any of this stuff originates on the internet? It's almost impossible, in my opinion, when it comes to.

A lot of times is impossible. And you know what? I think that the internet as much as like, look, I'm a child of the internet. Like, I literally love the internet more than I love my actual biological family. Like, fuck you, mom and dad, like, internet for life. And, like, I was down for there to be a debate about this shit so that I can be figured out. But honestly, everybody like fucking freaked out about it and like called for my head over it. And then nobody does it.

Like no one's crediting anything. Nobody is doing shit. So like we all had this debate at my expense. And everybody's like screaming and yelling and like all these nerds are like freaking out. And so I basically went on record and was like, yeah, I'll credit it because I always would have if I knew where to fucking, if I knew where the shit came from. And I tried to set a standard and then and nobody fucking does it. Look, go on the internet right now. Nobody's crediting memes.

Nobody gave a shit. So like, you know, I don't know. At this point, it's like, if you still care about that, you're probably kind of a nerd, but like I also feel you. And like, I tried to do my part. I credit the photos whenever I can. I'm the only person who's ever gone on record and said, I will go ahead and do this. No one else ever did that.

Well, in my opinion, like, you know, I laugh at memes a lot. I find a lot of my day being wasted on that stuff, which is sad. But what I think is the funnier part, or the comment, that people say. Your comments are spot on. I think, like, you could have a good meme, but it's the social commentary that you add to that meme, which really makes it.

That's what separates the grates from the regulars. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of it was about the fact that, like, most of these meme accounts, like, they're hide behind some kind of, like, character or, like, some kind of persona, you know? The original memes was, like,

remember, like, Ebalms world back in the day? Of course. I loved Ebalms world. There was some fucked up shit on there. I love early internet shit. Look, it's like, I just look at the internet. is like this big giant sharing community. Anyone who ever hits me up and is like, credit my shit,

if I didn't know where it's from, I credit your shit. Not only do I credit their shit, I'll talk to them. In fact, the girl who I went to the Kinsenera with was like a 16-year-old who was like, yo, this was my friend's, my friend's picture or something. I gave credit to her friend and then went to a Kinsenera with her. Like, I'm hanging out with these people. So, you know, it's like, there's so much shit on the internet, and it's like it's impossible to know.

But anyone who's ever asked me, I've never been a dick about it. I'm never like, nah, because I want everybody to get their shine, but I don't know. Everybody just, like, needs to be so pissed off. Yeah, they're always looking for reasons. Yeah, everybody just needs to be so furious on the internet. Like, everyone's just saying such extreme shit to me. Like, DMs, besides, like, Saudi Arabian guys offering to bring me on boats and, like, DMs, like, weird DMs from Amanda Bines.

Like, besides that, it's mostly just like people screaming at me one way or another. They're either like, you fucking chew. I'll put you in an oven like a de journo pizza. And I'm like, that seems like it's. too much. Or they're like, I love you. Like, I want to like, I want to like rip your dick off and wear it as a necklace because I'm in love with you, like jizz on me. And I'm like, that's too much also. Like everyone's just so extreme. Like no one can ever just DM me and be like, hey, man, I think your stuff's funny. Or like, hey man, you're not so great. You know what I mean?

It's like, everyone's like got to be so, so extreme. So look, white people are outraged about something on the internet every day. I happen to be like three of those days. And I was, and I was, totally down with it, but like memes rule, and like, if you hit me up and ask me, like, I will not only give you credit, but probably go to a Kinsenera with you if that's what you invite me to. That's amazing. I love it. I want to hear really quick before we go about your mom's belly button ring. Okay, actually, it's kind of a two-part story. One, all right, so my parents basically lived in New York. My parents are both doctors. They moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico. And I don't know if you know this, but like a lot of Jews moved to New Mexico now. And, like,

if you're not old enough to move to Boca and start eating dinner at 4.30 in the afternoon, a lot of them move to Boca, so they're only like in their early 60s. So a lot of these Jews who are moving out there from New York, they kind of like still got it. You know what I mean? Like they're kind of horny. Like they're retired. They're in their early 60s. So I had always kind of heard that about Santa Fe.

And then my parents moved out there and it was 1,000 percent true. My parents all of a sudden, like, they were wearing like khakis. My dad was wearing like khakis and like sensible loafers. now they're wearing like denim cowboy boots that have like rips in them that you buy with the rips in them and like dream catcher earrings and like bolo ties and they're definitely

fucking swinging and they're super horny and my um a girlfriend of mine went out to went out to New Mexico with me and went to a spa with my mom like my parents are completely reinventing themselves it's insane so they're like Jews from the up like from Manhattan who like on it again like literally

we're very sensible and normal and now they're just like letting fucking loose. They're like smoking dubies. So my girlfriend goes to a spa with my mom and I guess it's like there's a nude option. So she doesn't get nude, my girlfriend. But she gets in a hot tub with my mom who gets nude. I guess my mom goes there all the time. And so she comes back to the house. They get back from the spa and my girlfriend like literally looks like she saw a fucking ghost. And I'm like, are you okay? And she's like, I need to talk to you right now. So she pulls me like into a bedroom and I'm like, what is going on? Like what happened at the spa? She's like two things. One, your mom has a navel ring and I was like are you fucking kidding me like she's it no with like a chunky

bedat like literally with a chunky emerald I'm not fucking around and like so that blew my mind and then this is like definitely TMI but like actually this is max TMI but she also told me that my mom has a fully shaved vagina oh my god I'm like honestly like here's the thing I like here's the thing I feel kind of mixed on it because like on the one hand like you go girl like find yourself like you are 60 whatever and you are fucking like you are feeling yourself go for it on the other hand i'm like you're my mom and you're in your 60s aren't you supposed to have like a huge overgrown disgusting bush like what are you a freshman at san diego state like you have a totally shaved vagina that's crazy and a belly ring like what are you a like literally like you're a ho that's a lot to take in for

you know what i was i was just thinking here as you were telling her the story Lauren just came out of nowhere with like hey what's up with your mom's navel and for those people listening they they either think a we have a really really good research team or b that were just like psychics that's funny because when we were trying to connect in the beginning of this podcast that's like literally the first thing you said to us was my mom has a navel ring I mean you asked me if anything was off limits and like as I've now told you that my mom is a fully shaved bush nothing is off limit I wish I could chalk that up to our research team if we could just like hit you with a pal out of nowhere be like what's up with your mom's navel.

All right. So before you go, tell us what's next. Tell us your social handles. Not like anyone, everyone already knows, but just give us all the deets on that. And also send us some invitations to these exclusive parties that we have not been getting invited to. Yeah. It's really too bad.

You're not coming to this one tomorrow because it's going to be like absolutely moronic. If any of our team's listening, get us a red eye flight immediately. Yeah. Seriously, this man needs a UTI. Like, let's go. Like, there's going to be like, there's going to be real housewives there. There's like, honestly, the number of Z-list. celebrities that are going to be at this party is literally shocking. Like, everywhere you look,

you're going to be like, I thought that guy died. Like, every person you see there is going to be a celebrity you thought was dead, but isn't dead. So it's going to be, it's going to be a really good time. What do I have coming up? Nothing. We just have like a, you know, I don't know, get drunk on the rosé, like, DM me, DM me and ask me to go to your proms or like to like, you know, officiate your weddings. I'm 100% down. I'm doing a lot of plus size modeling. So like, You're going to see some of that coming out doing some underwear ads. And just generally just being one of our,

legendary American idiot. My social security number is 101-770050. You can steal my identity. I really don't give a fuck. And I think that that is everything that's popping. And for all those hedge fund guys, you better take it easy. Yeah, seriously enough.

These guys are like, these guys are on Coke, like eating silverware, being like, Yeah, like let's rip. Oh, God. It's insane. Thanks for me on the podcast. You're incredible. You're so fucking funny.

We loved it. Love you. Meena. Okay, guys, thank you so much for listening. That was a really fun, funny episode. I hope that you will rate, subscribe, tell your friends, leave us a review. If you have any constructive feedback,

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