The Bossticks - #73: Kim Kelly - Consistent Fitness, Positive Self Talk, Motivation, and How To Conquer Stress with Training

Episode Date: August 1, 2017

On this episode we sit down with Kim Kelly (@kimkellyfit). Kim is a personal trainer and fitness expert. She has been training us for a long time in San Diego now and we have both seen amazing results. On this show we talk about being consistent in the gym or with your training, the partners you choose to work out with, diets, motivating yourself with positive self talk and motivating your partner. We also discuss how to work out from home, working out and dieting while pregnant, essential supplements and how to incorporate alcohol into your diet without going overboard. Kim is an amazing trainer and one of the most positive people we know. Once you listen to this episode you will understand why we hold her in such high regard.  To find out more about Kim Kelly go HERE Connect with Lauryn Connect with Michael This Episode is brought to you by Canna-Pet Canna-Pet is an organic CBD supplement made from industrial hemp that is non-psychoactive, safe, legal and produced specifically for animals/pets. Canna-Pet is a holistic alternative to pharmaceuticals. It helps with things like arthritis, anxiety, inflammation, pain, allergies, seizures, vomiting, cancer and more. For healthy animals it can help with longevity like eating your vegetables. We use Canna-Pet with our chihuahua Pixy and it has helped her to recover from temporary paralysis and anxiety. We continue to use it to help with her arthritis and keep her calm.  USE PROMO CODE: PIXY at checkout for 50% off all purchases  

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She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show.

You have me, Lauren Everett's, and my lovely husband, Michael Bostick. Howdy, howdy, howdy? And on this episode, we interview one of our all-time faves, Kim Kelly, who is Lauren and I's trainer. We interviewed her a couple weeks back. We're in France right now. And I think the interview is a very valuable interview for anyone that's interested in health and fitness, working out, motivating yourself, getting after it, getting it done.

I will say I've had a lot of trainers in my life. and Kim kicks my ass. I am huffing and puffing to keep up with her. Yeah, you're always crying. Just to give you guys context on this, so we interviewed Seth before. He has trained us in L.A. And we live halftime in San Diego and a couple days a month in L.A.

So you've heard from Seth, who we work with in L.A. And now this is Kim, who we work out with in San Diego. I have the skinny confidential bombshell body guide, as you guys know. and in that guide, I have hired a trainer to work with me to do the best workout moves for you guys to make sure that the moves I do are legit. So Kim and I are working out a lot lately because she is going to be a major contributor in my guide, which is going to be released later this year. You guys know I already have a guide, but we're working on more workouts for you right now. So that's a little bit of context, a little behind the scenes story for you. So we're going to jump right into the interview.

It's a long interview. It's a valuable interview. I think you guys will really like it and leave feedback after the podcast or email us at podcast at the skinny confidential.com to let us know what you think. Also, I want to note that Kim has a worksheet for you guys that has a couple of her super secret fitness and health tips. And that worksheet will be on the skinny confidential tonight. So make sure to look out for it.

you can print it or just pull it up on your mobile phone when you're grocery shopping or when you're trying to get in a workout at home. And as always, everything will be linked in the show notes. So with that, I will introduce you to one of my favorite people in the world. She has the best energy ever, Kim Kelly. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. All right, you guys, we're going to get into it with Kim. So Kim, tell the audience all about you and your fitness experience. Okay, well, I'm a fitness instructor, personal trainer. I've been doing it for a little over 10 years.

Just super passionate about it. It's what I live, breathe, and think about day, morning, night. And I just love to help people, motivate people, and just help them with their goals. Their health goals, the fitness goals, just get happier, healthier, lean, or stronger, whatever they're looking for. So we kind of got into it a little bit before this, but give us what you need to be successful in fitness because I know that you have like a whole thing and I really want the audience to hear the breakdown of kind of your mantra. So I think it's important to have these four facts in your, you know, fitness regimen just to have

time, effort, preparation, and consistency. So I'll explain a little bit about each. Time is basically you make the time for your fitness. It can be 20 minutes. It can be 30 minutes. It can be 40 minutes. But it's best if you book that in your calendar. in your schedule, like Lauren does, for instance.

So I know you book all your fitness into your week, into your phone, and you show up for that hour. Sometimes 15 minutes. No, she's... Pretty much every time she's late. So make it as an appointment would be, whether it's your hair, nails, skin, so this is your fitness appointment. So you book it into your phone, schedule it, and that's when you show up.

And when you show up, that's the time you've made for it. There's the effort part. So you need to make the effort. Don't just show up. You really want to be 100% focused. So that probably means no phones, no extra things around you. You and either your class that you're attending, listening to your instructor or your personal trainer. But stay present and push and try your hardest during that time.

Preparation, I always say this is probably the easiest of the fore because it literally just means making sure you have your gym bag with you. Make sure you have your running shoes, your athletic shoes, your clothes. your clothes, your yoga pants, whatever your workout is that day that you'll need. Pack it the night before I always do. I bring several changes with me. That's just because of the industry I'm in. You can do one or two changes depending on what you're going to do that day. But just have it in your bag the night before, ready to go.

Don't you have like a bag that you, don't you bring a bag that you have everything and you also have like a lunch box? Yeah, totally. So preparation and everything. So along with my clothes, I have my running or athletic shoes. choose, my clothes, the shorts and tank top I'm going to wear. If I'm going to go yoga, I'll have my pants in tank top. I bring my towel. And then in my backpack in the car is my protein shakes, my almonds, my electrolytes, my BCAAs, which we'll get into later. So I definitely have that

bag packed. I pack that bag in the morning and I pack my fitness bag at night, but I make sure I have the time in the morning to prep all my shakes that I'm going to be taking or my powders. I don't live off those. Those are my in-between drinks, in-between workouts. I stop for my, you know, food or lunch on the way. But those, you definitely need to get those. You need to have your snacks ready. You need to have your electrolytes ready. You just need to be prepared in that.

Well, I feel like if you prepare like that, it's going to force you to be a little bit more consistent, right? Like if you take all that time to prepare a bag and set up your snacks, then you're not going to let it all go to waste. Yeah, absolutely. And I can't tell you how many times someone will come to class or come to a session and be like, oh, I forgot to eat. That's me.

No, sometimes you have it with you and you're drinking it, which is fine. But the thing is you don't want to do is you don't want to go to that class or that training session because what will happen is maximum 15 to 20 minutes in, you're depleting. You're like seeing stars or you're just not able to perform. So like again, back to if you're going to show up and make the effort, you need to make the effort. In order to make that effort, you need to have the right nutrition in you ahead of time. So that's, it all kind of circles back together, you know, prepared, make the time, make the effort, be prepared.

And the last thing I was going to touch on is consistency. So if you were to do a great workout once a week, that's fantastic. But it's really not going to get you results or any kind of long-term fitness goals or changes. Let's go into that a little bit because I think a lot of people think they need to do these extremely hard workouts all the time. And then that becomes daunting and overwhelming. I think the first time I worked out with you, I went. home and almost like went in the fetal position and like started crying. And so, you know, but then again, we, you know, I've improved a little bit. But a lot. I think a lot of people, you know,

they go to these really hard classes or these hard workouts and then it like defeats them. Totally. And they stop going. So what would you recommend if someone's starting out? Yeah. I totally hear that 100% because I do tend to teach more hit, more high intensity interval training and more circuits. But I love when my in a class or in an environment when I see someone, in the room that's doing their, I can usually gauge, someone's trying their hardest, their best. That might not be what the person next to you is doing and it doesn't matter. You're working at your maximum capacity for, just give it your all. And if you, I'd rather have you come to that class, take breaks. Or I use the word pace yourself. When I'm in a race, if I'm running a 10K or a

half marathon, I know when to pace and when to push. So you kind of have to train yourself, your pace push set. Okay. So I'm going to hold back here because I know. know she's going for a minute of burpees in the last 15 seconds I'm going to go all out that's your push rate so how many times would you suggest somebody gets active I know you like to be active every day but if you're somebody you have a nine to five job you're busy with your career you have kids you have a family what would you suggest to that person great point so I know I'm in a totally different industry my husband's at a desk job he's a graphic designer so he's behind a computer all day long it is harder for him but

I say any movement, try to get a little bit of daily movement in. So if you can't do that killer workout, not many people can, let's face it, every day. And I don't think that's great to do it every day. But if you can move in some way, you know, count your steps, I say minimum 10,000, 15,000 would be great. But just move, go out for a walk, take your dog, get some fresh air, go for a hike, maybe a quick run, maybe it's a two or three mile run. Or go in your backyard, do a set of like squat jumps to plank to pushups back to like if you just keep that 15 20 minutes that you might have available no stopping maybe a 10 second break so there's different you know intervals and tabata and hit you can do 20 on with 10 off 30 on with 20 off kind of find what

works for you but I think if you can get some kind of movement in you know five to six days a week that's great and you've told me once that you cannot walk by a bench without looking at it and thinking, what could I be doing on that bench? 100%. I see this a lot too, because I'm a mom. I have two boys. They play a lot of sports. So it's between soccer, baseball, flag, football.

I mean, even if you don't have kids, you're at a park, you're an activity. There's so many, and I don't take offense to this, little ladies and the moms and dads out there, that will sit there the whole game and even through the practice. It's like, I find that I was out in Santi and it was hot, but I knew there's a trail.

So I was like, okay, I'm going to go on that trail because I know my son has a 20-minute break in between games. felt great. So I look at the environment around what can I use. Yeah, there's a bench there. I'm going to do some push-ups, some tricep dips. Maybe I'll do some, you know, box jumps. I'm not saying everyone wants to do that, but don't be afraid to move. People actually, I think we talked about this recently. They're envious. When we work out and we're sweating and we're like working hard, people be walking by us like, oh, what are they doing? You're like, they want that. People crave that. They want that. I know when I'm not working out, let's say about a restaurant, people are running by in the

beach driving. I'm like, oh man, that looks fun. So just once you start doing it and like it, make sure it's something you like, you're going to want to do more of it. And you're going to become, I mean, you tell me, you guys, how do you feel about it? Like when you go, when you're just about to start your workout, or you're driving to your workout. I'm a little scared

when I work out with you. I'm not going to lie, because you are so intense. You're the most intense person I've ever worked out with. So I get a little scared. But then when I get there and I get through the warm up, the warm up is like, the warm up is basically hell. The warm up is, I mean, I've never seen a warm up like this in my life.

What the fuck kind of warm up is this? But you know, no, the way I feel, I mean, I love working out with you and I've had a lot of trainers and we've talked about that on the show. But I like that you do the workouts with us and my goal now has been to keep up with you. And so like I feel like. And you have. I'm getting closer. No, I'm not.

You crushed me on that hill the other day. I know you did. I'm not there yet. But I'm getting closer. And so like I think it's motivating to see somebody, you know, especially like when you're such good shape. It's motivating to see somebody that you're working. out with doing it with you and then you're like okay I'm going to try to keep up with this person

I think but there's two people there's two ways to look at it some people get defeated by that and like oh I'm never going to get there my mentality is that I get motivated I'm like I want to get to that same level I think I do that with everything in life but yes it's important to set good examples I think I think you do that thank you I appreciate that I totally hear you on that because I've been on the other so I've been the trainee yeah the trainee in the room and I like when the you know, when the teachers involved in their passion and their movement, I don't do when I'm teaching a class the whole thing, but I really do do most of it because I find that it is motivating. I stop, they stop. That's how it goes. That's just the rule of them. I stop, they stop.

I've seen you sometimes when you're, when I'm doing squats and you stop and I'll, I'll stop, and then you'll look at me and say, okay, five more. Like, you do kind of subconsciously follow the trainer. Exactly, exactly, which is great, but it's also like sometimes when the trainer's just sitting there, you're not as motivated. And don't be, well, Michael made a really good point. So don't be into, if you're like, oh, my God, I'll never look like that. How does she or he do that? They can jump so high. They have so much energy.

There's so much trying. So those will talk about that. I think the words that are going into your head and you're thinking, you're not me, I'm not you. It doesn't matter. You'll get there. I'm just there to motivate you and help you and coach you and all inspire you. inspire you, you just do the work and just stay consistent. Put the effort in, make the time, stay consistent, prepare. You do that and I'll do the other part. For you to have gotten to a place

where you can have that mindset and be motivating to other people, were you always like that? Were you always into fitness? Like, when did you start? We're kind of going back now. I don't think I've ever asked you this. Yeah. Where did you start with all of this? Like, I mean, did you, have you always been in this good a shape? Because that's really going to be defeating to me. Well, I've had two babies, and my first baby, I gained 40 pounds of it. That's a decent amount of weight for pregnancy. Second, I was better. I was always into fitness.

I always enjoyed working out. I used to be tortured by running, to tell you truth, though. I remember John would run, and I'd be like, out of breath. I was so defeated. That was probably my turning point. That was 20-something years ago. We'd go for a run, and he would always beat me. I'm like, I'd have to walk part.

It was just I couldn't breathe. I'm like, okay, I'm going to run a little bit more tomorrow. So then I'd do another quarter mile or maybe, you know, not even. Each time I went out, I'd do a little bit more. Each time I went out, I did a little bit more. Seriously, that was 21 years ago. I've run a marathon now. I've run half marathons.

I can run. But what I'm saying is I didn't happen overnight, you know, so I built up to that. But you just have to be consistent with something. But let me go back to what you're at really out. So I can remember being in classes that I took and listening to the instructor and doing what she asked and thinking, oh, but I would do it this way. But I would do it this way. And then I kind of started to do my own thing in class. And of course, that's not very fair to the instructor.

They didn't like it. So I just always knew that I had a different idea. I would put this angle on it. You're creative. It's creativity. It is. And I, that's where some people do it in, you know, health, beauty, you know, fashion. my creativity just like that's why I can see something and think how can we use that fitness wise

or you know so that's just where the passion first started and then I would say about 10 years ago I really started with teaching bar we went out to go we met by the way we met at peer bar we were both well Kim was a teacher and I took her class and I was drawn to her immediately I thought where'd she get that shirt where'd she get those pants where'd she get that bracelet I want the headband you know the headband I'm talking about she's wearing where did you get that that. And she, we'll put pictures on the blog, but she really does have this presence and this, this brand of fitness when she walks around. I mean, I'll be working out with her and people will come up to us and really stop the workout and say, I've seen you running around town.

I mean, she is her own brand. She lives, eats, breathe, sleeps, fitness, and health. And so, so I ended up teaching Pure Bar with you. I was a different kind of teacher. Let's just say that, You know, no, Kim was like so good. I kind of like made things up as I went. And then we both ended up teaching reformer Pilates at the same place. That's right. That's right. That's right. And then one day I just reached out and I was like, hey, I'm in San Diego. Can you train me?

And I mean, I like love working out with you now. I was, I can remember the day. I think that you, I don't know if you text or email. I was like super excited to hear from you. And it's, yeah, that was awesome. And then we manipulated Michael into coming to the workhouse. Yes. And then we.

And Taylor and Nico and Weston and Dante and Mimi. Some have fallen off. Taylor. Taylor. But no, I mean, I'm a lot of like Dante and Weston. I'm proud of those guys. They're showing up and I feel better. I feel like I'm getting in better shape.

I want to say something that you mentioned. I want to go back for one second for anyone that's listening that can't have a trainer. Or maybe doesn't have time to have a trainer or whatever it is. I think one of the great things about Kim that that I've gotten out of working out with you is I used to think that you had to work out in a gym and it had to be an hour and it had to be really almost clinical. Like it had to be like in the gym or taking a yoga class or doing class pass, whatever that is. And that's all great. But what I've learned from you is that you can really kind of do anything anywhere. Yeah. So can you elaborate on that for people that don't have a trainer? Sure. I mean,

there are, I think you just mentioned maybe class pass is for a minimal monthly fee. It allows you to try a lot of different studios in your town or in your area. I think they limit how many visits you can make per, you know, studio. But it's a great way to try different workouts,

but back to what you're saying, yeah, I personally don't go to a gym. I haven't been in years. I personally don't do machines. I haven't in years. That doesn't mean, you know, what works for me might work for you. but I love free weights.

I love resistance training. I love, like we've talked to before, I look at a tree. I'll put my TRX up on there. You can do like, as you guys know, like 15 minutes of TRX and you are like dead. Dead. Yeah.

Sometimes I'll literally have 30 minutes or so in between clients, but I know there's a set of stairs in Salana Beach, and I know if I run up and down the stairs and at the bottom, I'll do some squat jumps. At the top, I'll do pushups, back down, back up. So I just do a round of five, and I feel awesome. So you just have to kind of be aware of where you are.

And again, back to that preparation. Hopefully you have those clothes and the shoes in the car with you. And just fine. Maybe it's a set of stairs. Maybe it's a dry sand run, which we've done. Those are hard. You know, take your shoes off and run the beach. What's funny is, I think if you go back and listen to earlier podcasts, you'll hear me

talk about that. I have consistently, we've talked about it. I've consistently worked out my whole life, which I think has been good because it's kept me in somewhat good of shape. but I've gotten so bored with all the workouts and I think the reason is that I was consistently going to a gym around the same machines, around the same things

and since working out with you, I'm all fired up again because all these things are different and it's stuff that I've never done before and I think what happens also when you get bored or you get kind of complacent in a gym, your motivation level goes down and then you start to plateau. So I think it's important for people to understand

that you need to switch it up. Totally, absolutely. And another thing you can do, is maybe find, if you can't afford a personal trainer, understandable, totally, find a small group of, you know, your friends. Maybe there's four of you that want to hire, because I'm betting that any local personal trainer

will take on a small group for maybe a slightly increased rate, but you're splitting it amongst four of your girlfriends, right? And so you get the benefit of kind of a personal training session, but you get also the added benefit of a group setting, which can be motivating. When you're with other people in a workout, you're motivated, you kind of might be looking. It's that inner competitor that might come out in you. And plus, you're just more fired up.

Not to say one-on-ones aren't great. I love them. But that's another way to get a great workout in outside a gym and, you know, get the benefit of personal training. Outside of when, I mean, you and Lauren motivate me, but outside of that, whenever I invite my friends, I always have to go and crush them, right? Like, that's my main thing when they get them. Like, okay. You really have to big dick them. Yeah, I go in there and I'm like, I had demoralize them.

And I think like, you know, these guys, I just got to like, I got to show them. Yeah. But I think something to touch on like outside of joking around, I think instead of just working out with big groups, I think it's important to find people that are in better shape than you. Yeah. That's kind of been like my little hack this whole, my whole life is that I find people that are stronger than me or faster to me or better than me. Because when you work out with people that may not be in as good as shape as you or on the same

level, it slows you down. And I know that's kind of me. you're like, oh, maybe my friend is, you know, it's your good friend. But at the same time, like, it's just like in business or anything else. Like, you want to find people that are on the next level and then work to that level. Exactly. Exactly. Same applies. That's a great. I love that because same applies in a race. So if I'm at the starting, you know, lineup of the race is ready to start, you always find someone that's faster than you.

And you, obviously you see their number or their shirt or what they're wearing. And you try to pace with them. And it's hard, you know, but that's, and it's still stranger. I don't know this person, but I'm like, okay, he or she is where I want to be, so I'm not going to lose sight of them. How do you know who's faster than you when you're in a race? Can you just tell? You can tell. They're in front of you. They're pacing. Oh, so you don't pick it before you start the race. Right. No, I'm sorry. Yeah. The race has started. And I'm talking about running now. But Michael's right in a workout. Oh, there's girls. And I don't mean to say girls, girls, girls and guys that will be in the front row of my class.

and I really prefer it. There's some that'll just crush it. They're crushing me. They just don't stop. They won't stop. They don't take breaks. They do the purpose. They're push it.

They're just go, go, go, go. And it's good to have them in the front road because guess what everyone's like, man, she is killing it or he is killing it. I want to be like them. And again, it's not comparing yourself to that person. It's like, I want to work up to that. So separate that, guys.

That's really important. I can't do that. I suck too. That's awesome. I want to be that. So speaking, that's like self-talk stuff. And I know we wanted to touch about, like, how important is, I know being motivated, but how important is what you tell yourself when you're working out?

Oh, my God, so important. I mean, if you ask any, I'll talk about workouts. If you ask any professional athlete, I mean, it's all, you know, especially, I know, some sports are more mine like baseball. You just have to, like, it's mindset. You have to go in. And I just think, even when I'm like, I can feel my legs, like, jello or I'm like, might be a little shaking.

or I'm like, oh my God, I'm dying. It's like just push, just drive, just go. Or I say, you know, get it, girl, or, you know, push, drive. You can do anything for 30 seconds. Or I say, you know, you've done harder things in your life. Get it. Come on. You know, just keep going with positive words.

So I'm saying that to you. But if you're not with me, put in your head, just everything positive, like you've got this. You do do that. You're always, always yourself talk and your talk to me is always positive. Yeah. Nothing negative ever. Oh, yeah. I should never say the word I can't.

I can only do five. Just tell yourself, you know, just as many positive. Find what resonates with you and just repeat it in your head. And then I like to also have a goal in mind. So I don't like to think, and I'll separate the two here. When you're in a workout, I've got to go home and do some emails. I get to grocery store. What am I going to eat?

Oh, you have to make that. You don't have time to think like that. Yeah, I don't usually let you have time to think about it. The only thing I can think about when I'm working out with you is if my heart's going to explode out of my chest and if I'm going to throw up. Okay, so there you go. you don't even have time to think about other stuff. But it is a good thing maybe like 10 or 15 minutes before.

Do you guys ever think, okay, like when I'm, I know I'm about to finish class. I'm like, I'm going to go straight and get that warrior smoothie loaded with like protein and hemp and almond butter and green, whatever it is that sounds good to you. And let that be your reward. Put a reward in your head and you're like, yeah, so I'm going to like nail out this last set of burpees or this last hit or tabot around, whatever you're doing. But just, you know, have that reward. Or maybe you're going out, maybe it's an evening class and you're going to sushi with your

girlfriend's after. Well, work a little harder. Maybe it's a glass of rosé. And maybe it's a glass of rosé. Okay, so I want to get really specific here. What is a workout that someone could do after listening to this podcast outside in their backyard? Oh, gosh. Okay. Well, I... What if they don't have a backyard? Or in the street? In the street. In the city or wherever. Like, no excuses. In your living room. Give us a no bullshit like exercise. Yeah. So I would take, I would combine. strength, cardio, and abs. So in your head, you're saying I'm going to do, and whether it's 20 seconds or 30 seconds, I would go for minimum 30 seconds, 30 seconds, 30 seconds of jump squats. And you know how to make that harder. You can go higher, you can add a butt kick, a knee tuck, whatever version of jump squats. Then go right into push-ups. So that's your strength. And then turn it around, line your back, go right into V-ups or bicycles or like that. And I just circle that. So the next time around, maybe I'm doing jumping jacks or I'm doing burpees for. my cardio pick a cardio pick a strength pick an app how many sets of each and how many times uh i like to do i mean so that's a three sets if you're doing a strength cardio ab i would repeat it a minimum four

times well here's one thing i want to touch on though these are like amazing suggestions and i agree but i find that when i'm with you in the group doing these workouts like burpees and jump squats and pushers those are hard right so like what do you what would you tell somebody that starts doing in the living room as soon as it starts to get harder and then they give up like it's like oh that's too hard i don't want to do that yeah so there's definitely variation so like i say high knees instead of burpees jumping jacks pretty much everyone could do and if you're having trouble if you're you know you could just stand in place and then drive your knee to elbow opposite knee opposite elbow if your heart rate's elevating if you're wearing one of those devices that tells you you know if

you're working harder so you don't have to do the burpee with a knee tuck you know that's level three. But I'm more talking like even if they have to do like let's say they have to do the burpee with the knee tuck, but they're giving up because it's like oh that got hard. I'm in my living room. Nobody's looking. I think it's like go watch TV or go to work or jump in the shower. What would you tell that person? Well, I'd go back to, you know, consistency and effort. You're just going to, it's going to be. Like think about me when I told you when I was running and I'd have to start walking and then I'd get frustrated because I was out of breath. I couldn't do it. And I was was literally about to give up. Now it's one of my favorite activities in my whole entire life.

I look forward to that all week. So, but if you asked me 20 years ago, I'd been like, no, this sucks. This is awful. I can't do it. And I had those negative voices. But each time I did it, I went a little for, I made myself go one more block or two more blocks. So next time when you go back to it, try to get that two or three more burpees. And I swear if you do that, you will. There's no doubt in my mind. If you stay consistent and try a little bit harder each time, I have no doubt that you're soon I'm going to be, you know, making that 20 second mark. It really is practice. But don't give it. The give up is the death.

With anything, it takes practice. Anyone that's an expert, it's just practice. What did they say? It's 10,000 hours, Michael. Michael knows the quote. Yeah, 10,000 hours to be an expert in something. Okay, see? I think, I don't know.

It might be misquoting, but still. I want to get in, really into it, food. Because you've given me some amazing suggestions. You've given me the suggestion of the chocolate quinoa. Oh, I know. I love that. I love that. You told me about cilantro lime hummus.

Love that one. The dip. Yes. And what did you tell me to dip in it again? Oh, I usually use hickama or cell or some kind of crunchy vegetable. Hickama, you guys. Great tip instead of chips. Oh, yeah.

And then the other recommendation you told me about was something called Fitness Bread. And we'll link this in the show notes. Tell us about fitness bread. You know, I found it, I believe at Jimbo's, but I love it. It's kind of a rectangular, but very thin. And so it toasts well. Sometimes if I'm super lazy, I'll just like put in the microwave. And then I put literally any spread you want on it.

Sometimes I do that hummus. And I think that the one you're referring to the cilantro lime is actually made from chickpeas. It's made from something else, but we'll have to look at that. Anyway, sometimes I put like some kind of spread and nutritional yeast on it and sliced tomatoes. Sometimes it's locks. Like literally you can do anything with it. and it's nice to have, you have to have some carbohydrates in your life. You really do.

So that's the big thing out there. What's a good carb? What's a bad carb? When you should you have your carbs? But you definitely want carbs in your life. So good carbs would be something like that. You know, you want brown, not white, nothing white, no white rice, white bread, white flour, white tortillas.

If it's white, it's sugar. And I loved the combo that we did. You told me to do fitness bread toasted. And then on top, you had me do office. avocado. And then you said slice a tomato, lemon. And then this was a really good tip that I just want to call out. You told me for protein to put hemp seed on top. And I thought for the longest time that hemp seed was fiber, which it is, but it's also a great protein. Ten grams, I think, in my scoop. So I use it quite a bit. Yeah, absolutely. Trying to manipulate Michael into that hemp seed

protein. Yeah, stir it up. Hey, listen, we've talked about this too. I'm the type of person if you give me the options and present them to me, I usually take advantage, right? Like, I've been consistent with the workouts. I'll take the proteins. I'll eat, right? But I don't, I probably should. I don't do as good a job researching this kind of stuff when it comes to my health. But if you, like, if you give me something, me something for my skin, something to eat. Just for the record, the hemp seeds are in my perfectly organized pantry next to the chia seeds. So I feel like now you know where they are. We're all clear on it. Listen, Christopher Columbus couldn't find anything in that pantry. Like it is, there's no way. I mean, I know it's so organized that it's, I can't find anything.

I don't know how to explain it. Like, you got to be Magellan to get in there. Can you alphabetize your pantry? You should see it. It's really, really, really nuts. So another thing that I want to talk about is shakes and smoothies, because you're a fan, and so am I. Tell us, like, everything there is to know, like, give us a shake smoothie 101.

Okay, well, I love in my, it has to have protein, guys. At the end of the day, here is the deal. And I know there's this thing, oh, protein, protein. Well, listen, protein. Feats muscles. Okay, so when your muscles are happy, your body's not using it for energy. So it's just going to feed your muscles. Anyway, so make sure you have, I like about two scoops, which was about 25 to 30 grams of protein in your smoothie.

Then I do ice, and I do unsweetened almond or coconut or cashew milk. And then I like to add some kind of healthy fat. So it's usually almond butter. And I'll do hemp seed as well. What about coconut oil? Yeah, you could do coconut oil. I know. You know what? I have a habit of going to the almond butter, but yes, coconut oil is a great addition for the healthy fat. So either one? I would do either. I would do either. Yeah. And then if you, and then I add some greens. So it'll be like kale and spinach, kind of whatever I have going on in the fridge or whatever I can grab. So I like to put the greens in. I like the healthy fat. I like hemp. I mean, some people like chia. I prefer the hemp. And also has fiber in it as well. And then the protein. So you didn't need. hear me say fruit really. I'll do a half a frozen banana. I do like that's that would be my choice. You don't seem like you really like would do it every day though. Yeah, no. It's not my thing. And also a lot of,

as we talked about earlier in the, you know, backpack I bring in my car with all my shakes in it. Is this like a cooler backpack? It's like a cooler backpack. Okay, you got to send me the link for this because I want this. It's great. I love it. I love it. So it's because it's in my car all day long. I go from client to studios so I have to travel. So with that being said, I don't really blend my, obviously I don't have a blender in my car. So I pre-mix. This is where the powdered PB comes in. I get the organic powder PB and my protein and then I'll throw some hemp in it and then I just need ice water. So that's not as nourishing and awesome tasting as if I was home blending it, but that's a quick on-the-go solution. I always have almonds with me. I get those little snack bags.

I pre-fill them up throughout the week I grab a couple So those are in my bag at all times No matter what I just found out that cashews are super They're inflammatory So I'm going for the almonds now Oh okay

Yeah Good to know that Yeah someone just told me that the other day I kind of been switching up to walnut pieces too Oh that's a good one For the healthy fat as well That's a good one Yeah I love the walnuts

I kind of I've been doing cashews I think should I stop that now I guess I'm going to almost I wanted to ask you Now we're going like a kind of another direction. Maybe I always do this and Lauren gets mad. I want to kind of get into relationships and you have multiple relationships. You know, you have your kids and you have your husband.

Lauren and I are, you know, married now. We're thinking about maybe having kids. What can you do? If you're pregnant, can you work out like you do? What do you got to eat? How can you train? What did you do because you, my friend Weston saw you and was like, you would never know that you had a kid ever. Like pregnancy is on your mind. Yeah. Michael. Oh my God. Well, I was wonder because I'm going to get in trouble. I know I'm going to get in trouble. I see a lot of women they get pregnant and they just, they stop working out completely and they like eat whatever they want.

And I can't pass judgment obviously because I'm a man. But I wanted to get your thoughts because you're a woman, you're in shape, and you've had two children. Yeah. Here's my feeling on that. Whatever you're currently doing, you should pretty much be able to continue doing. You know, talk to you. I'm certainly not a doctor.

I'm not a big fan. When I was having my kids, the hot yoga craze wasn't like it is now. So I'm not sure I would advise heated yoga, heated boot camps or heated anything for that matter. Light heat, perhaps, but I would say whatever you're currently doing, you're fine doing until it becomes uncomfortable. I mean, I ran through my pregnancy. With my first one, I had to stop, and then I took spinning classes, cycling, indoor cycling. And that felt fine.

So you might have to modify your cardio or maybe you're on the, you know, whatever it is you're doing, I would say don't. stop and don't use it as an excuse. And if you're not doing enough, I would just start, you know, power walking, get something in because, you know, yes, you're having a baby and you're eating for two, but not really. I mean, I forget how many extra, I think it's like 300 calories a day. It's not even that much. And I'm not a calorie counter. I'm not trying to go that row. But just be mindful, because my first, I will say, I took, you know, some luxuries and paid for it with the 40 pounds. Some people are, oh, that's not that much. I have a smaller frame.

Yeah, Kim's small, you guys. She's like super tight and small. How tall are you? Five, six and a halfish. Okay. So we're about the same height. So then what about... Now I know how much I'm supposed to gain.

What about like post-pregnancy? So post-pregnancy, again, depends on, you know, your delivery at C-section versus not and all that. But I didn't have a C-section in either of my kids. But it was harder to come back from my first pregnancy. Then my second one was like, boom, no problem. I was working out with, I think, within a week easily.

And my first was a little bit harder, probably because of the extra weight game. The delivery was harder. There was a little bit more things going on there. But yeah, so that's another reason you want to keep the weight gain in check. And your doctor will tell you, I think the average is probably 25 to 30 pounds, which was more like my second one. And I'll tell you, I pop back like that. The delivery was easy, and it was, boom. But everyone's different.

I don't want to take that away from anyone. So just talk to your doctor. A lot of questions now because I think people see. Lauren and I working out with you on the snaps and so they see it a lot. And so there's been a lot of women and men reaching out where maybe one of the two in the relationship is super into working out

or super into being healthy. And they're trying to figure out how to motivate their partner. And I'll speak to a girl and she said it's leading to fights and she thinks that she was like, do you have any tips on how to motivate your partner to stay in shape?

But without making them feel put down or bad? Like how do you set an example? to your partner? That's a really good question, actually, because I have a very different lifestyle than my husband does because of the line of work. But I will be honest, I try to stay out of a little bit. He obviously sees what I do day in and day out,

and I'm like, oh, you should do this, but I'm very careful with how I say it. He has seen friends, neighbors recently have some good successes, and he's kind of like, wow, did you see so-and-so? And I mean, they go, yeah, don't they look? look great. I'm super, you know,

so I pipe in that way as kind of a roundabout, you know, third party thing. The other thing that has helped, I don't want to like, I'm not here to promote a product, but he got an Apple watch. And I'm like,

how many steps should take today? And then the kids are interested, like, let me see your watch. So then you're like, oh, I kind of have to be accountable. You like,

if you could pick, you like 15,000 a day, you said. Yeah. And, you know, there was, you know,

way, not too long ago, they were staying, 11,000 be great. And then I heard recently 15. I mean, 15 might be high for some people. I'm going to be honest. It's not for me, but that's because of what I do.

So don't go from 3,000 and go, God, she said I have to do 15,000. Get to 10. So you think it's more lead by example and show other examples as opposed to saying like you need to get in the gym. You need to do this. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, if you don't have an Apple watch, you guys, there is an app on everyone's

phone that's the heart app. and you can it's the heart or is it the health app excuse me it's the health app everyone has it on their iPhone and it will count how many steps you take but the only thing is is when I'm working out I don't hold my phone so that's hard to take into account but I definitely think that everyone should be just checking out their steps whether it's on your phone or on that watch okay so you always talk about your four critical elements to leading a balanced life and I want you to share that with the audience. Okay. Yes, there are definitely four things that, well, I call it your foundation.

So think of a house of the foundation. You know, you want to have that stable. So obviously nutrition. And I call it 80, 20. I'll explain that in a second. So 80% of the time you're on, 20% of the time we have barbecues and trips and parties and whatnot. So there is life to be led. Don't worry. It's not all strict. The second, some, whatever your fitness or activity level is. So hopefully some level of movement like we've talked about. The third stress is a huge factor in everyone's life. And listen, there can be good stress and bad stress. So stress is stress, good and bad. We all have it. We want to try to reduce that as much as possible. And by the way, endorphins help do that. Endorphins is what releases when you work out. To touch on that,

I don't know if you knew this, but when you first met me, I was like just super, super stress. I was very, we had the fat to you last week, I was very high octane, right? And I don't know, like, you haven't known me long enough, but since I've been working out so much with you, like my stress level has gone down by, I'd say probably like 75%. That's awesome. That's incredible. It's incredible. See, so right there.

So don't underestimate. And again, we'll circle back to some other ideas I have for fitness for you. Not you, Michael, but the audience. So when you reduce your stress, likely is you will sleep better. So I kind of chunk that in the same category. Reducing stress, sleeping better. Sleep is critical. Maybe you're not getting eight hours, but you're aiming, like seven to eight hours a night.

Anything less you're starting, you're really just, your metabolism will go to hell. You'll just, everything's harder. You're craving sugar. No matter what, and you start to reach for carbohydrates would turn into sugar, which you think are helping you with energy through the day. It's just a bad cycle to get involved with. So I know when I don't get good sleep, I am, I was just call it a, day in a way. I can do it once during the week, but any more than that, and I'm definitely off. So that's a critical part. And number four is supplements. So I definitely believe in

supplementation. That's your vitamins, your branch chain amino acids, your healthy fish oil. Yes, I do probiotics. If you had to recommend three essential, like three essential supplements to somebody, somebody on a budget or somebody that just, that all they can afford is to get three critical things, what would those be? Specifically to woman, I think. Or men. I said woman. Sorry.

Let me tell you if I have to name three. If you were to tell me you can only take these three supplements with you. Probiotic, fish oil, branch chain amino acids. Okay. And where's the best place? What's the best brand? You know, everyone's got a different feeling. I use Advocare.

I love that long. I've been using it for four years. It's all tested, clean product you don't need to worry about. It's in all the professional sports, so professional athletes use it. That was one of the reasons that I was turned on to the line, but the science and the medical research behind it is extensive. You can certainly look that up. That's what I use.

So I use a product that is called Catalyst. I use it pre-workout. I use it post-workout, and I usually use it again later in the day. So I have steady doses of branched chain amino acids in me. And this is what you've recommended to me. I've been using it for the last six months. And I really, really like it. But I think it needs like a really good explanation because I've just been learning about it over the last six months.

I'm still learning about it. Right. So, yeah, it's a bit confusing. What is a branch chain amino acid? You also hear I'm called BCAAs. So BCAAs, what they do is it's an amino acids that will feed into lean muscle. So your body will naturally bring. burn muscle before it will burn fat. So that's a bummer. You're working out and you're burning muscle.

Well, that's not why you went to work out. I'm not saying you're, and we all, why not utilize fat for energy throughout your day, whatever you're doing, whether you're working out or running errands or going to the store, your body needs energy to perform to get up off that chair, to go out to the car, to go to the store, whatever. So it works especially well in your workouts, but it's going to work for you all day long. That's why I like those steady doses, morning, afternoon, night, or pre-workout post workout later in the day. So it is a, it's a muscle protector and it helps the body utilize fat for energy. And just to be honest, what everyone calls that I love when you say this. They call it liposection in a bottle. It's not, it's not like a diet pill though. It's just let's be clear,

you guys, it's an amino acid. No, no, no, no, heck no. Amino acids are amazing. I love them. I love lysine. I love all of them. Absolutely. Get to know them. It'll make it. So I hear this so much, so much in classes and clients and all I can't lose that extra layer I can't see my abs how do you get your arms I'm just I'm answering the questions I hear so often

and what works for I'm telling you guys if you want to see that difference have your body working at an optimal level which means it's burning fat protecting muscle feeling better you know when you hold on to your lean muscle I'm not saying bulk I think these to both agree I'm not bulked up I just have lean muscle mass

so your metabolic rate is higher. You burn more calories throughout the day. You're stronger. So there's just so, and I'm after 40 here. So that's huge to have to be able to hold. Which is insane because I'm 30 and I'm running up the hill trying to catch you in you're 40. You beat me though. One time.

One time. You beat her? You know, it was like that. Yeah the other day. Have you guys ever seen Rocky 3 when he gets trained by Apollo Creed? Oh God, Rocky 3. No, I missed that one, Michael. Apollo Creed keeps beating him every time on the beach

And then in the end He beats him one time And they like jump in the air And like hug and high five It was like that kind of moment Can we touch on your pliometric ability though Crazy right? What's my oh my

Oh you were so excited for her to mention this on the podcast Don't lie Michael I always I get confused What plyometrics are You're talking about the frog leaves Frogs jumps any kind of you know Push off the ground Yeah Michael Michael excels at that

Quite a bit I got some good hops So you own that You know us. Kim said you could have been an Olympian. Should have. Well, shit. Maybe it's not too late.

Basketball isn't your strong suit. I don't know, man. With these hops, I might be able to. I'm telling you. Some of those NBA contracts are getting pretty big. I might have to look into that. So is there, my question is, and I don't know the answer to this, is there different kinds of BCAAs?

Like, is there only one kind? No. I mean, you, what scares me is you probably can find a ton of, you know, BCAA. products, I don't know if you go to Amazon or anything on the internet, please be careful in what you're purchasing or ordering. And you want to ask about how it's tested and who uses it and what, know a little bit about the science and research behind it. And I go back to Advocare because they use a company called Inform Choice, which is the worldwide anti-doping agency. And you might go, oh, I'm not an athlete. Don't need to worry about that. Well, you want to know what's going in

your body and long-term effects. So yes, you do. I'm going to just say that my catalyst is next to me right now. It says that it supports muscle tone and enhances strength and energy. That's another thing. So when you take a pre-workout, not only are you utilizing fat for energy, but your muscles are getting energy through amino acids, that's feed, and that's protein for your muscles, right? So when your muscles are fed through your workout, you're like, why were those 15 burpees easier today than before? Because your muscles are going to fit. So I learned something recently about Catalyst, which is the BCAA product we're talking about. So a girlfriend of mine was running a half marathon and she took it pre along with, you know, her electrolytes and whatever

and her goo with her. And then about halfway through, she took another three catalyst. I thought, I've never thought of that. Why'd you do that? Because you're, you know, halfway through the marathon, you're getting tacks and your muscles aren't feeling as great as they were. So she took, and again, it won't do anything funky to your stomach or anything weird. And she just pushed and it drove her through the end of the marathon. So, or the half marathon. So again, it's a longer workouts. You might want to do that. But, just for, you know, the sake of everyday working out, one, you know, you're set pre and then post is fine.

Okay. Let's kind of switch it up. We've been talking about so much healthy stuff. Let's talk about rosé and vodka sodas. Yay. I'm just kidding. So Kim has told me to focus more on vodka sodas and a little rosé as opposed to anything sugary, which I wasn't huge on sugary anything, but I feel like you've really been an advocate

of the vodka soda. Talk to me about the girl that likes to have a drink, but she also like. likes to eat kale. Yes, hello. Are you talking about yourself? Maybe. Maybe this is a selfish question. Okay, so here's my, you know, like I, let's go back to that nutrition rule when we touched on 80-20. So I'm betting 20, you know, maybe it's 15% for you, but there's, you might attend parties. You might have girlfriends want you to go out. You anniversaries, getaways, barbecues, fourth of July we just had. So think about life. You're not going to sit there and just watch everyone else have fun. I mean, if you don't drink, that's fine. I'm totally with that. However, if you

drink, just choose wisely. So I use vodka sodas and I just put a bunch of lemon or lime or whatever. I'll even, like, cut up a couple strawberries and throw them in there. Whatever fresh fruit, the sugar from the fruit's not going to make a big difference in the drink for you. So it just gives it a little bit of flavor. It doesn't have the added sugar that a lot of the, I mean, there's so many craft cocktails out there. What do you stay away from? Like, what's a big, like, It's a big no. I don't get into the craft cocktails because every time I take a sip of someone's in I'm like, first thing I taste is sugar.

I'm like, no, thanks. So I stay away from that. I'm not a beer drinker, but I am a rosé drinker. I realize there's sugar and wine. But I like a nice chilled glass of rosé. I'm not going to lie. I love it. Who doesn't?

Right? Thank you. God. Michael loves rosé. I love that. Yeah, I have a good. Jose all the time. Okay.

Maybe a little too much. Rosé, I'll say all day. But then I'll switch. I told Lauren, I usually have one nice class and if I'm going to have a second drink, then I'll usually go to the vodka soda. Okay. So you can still get to your fitness goals and have a couple vodka sodas a couple times a week. Absolutely.

Absolutely. I feel like when people say, oh, I'm never going to do this again, or I'm just not going to have any sugar and I'm going to drink only. When you say never and you cut out anything like on a semi-year, my permanent to permanent basis, I think you're kind of me, I'm setting myself up for failure. So I'm just telling you what works for me. I need to have balance. So balance is you've got to have some fun.

You've got to have a social life. You've got to be able to go out and not be watching everyone else have a drink and be bitter about it or just not having fun. So have fun, but do know the difference, like I was saying earlier. So if it's your sisters, neighbors, daughters' birthday party on a Thursday night, do you need to go to that? I mean, is that critical? Is that your third or fourth night out that week? Choose wisely.

Just choose wisely. Say yes to the important stuff. Learn to say no. No feels good sometimes. A polite no, a polite decline. Because guess what, we work. We want to get up for that class in the morning. We want to work out and not suffer.

We want to feel good. And I will say this. You know, we have a lot of younger listeners. maybe like 18 to 25, I didn't start noticing how taxing things were on my body until 25 and on. And I think, you know, for a lot of young people, like, oh, that's not me. I can drink. I can party. I can go out.

Trust me. It catches up. Quickly. It really does. 100%. Before we go, I want to play a game. And I told you that I actually have not told you that we're going to do this. So this is like off the cup.

I don't know about the game either. Yeah. He doesn't know either. And the reason I want to do this is because I'm so big. big on modifications. That's how the skinny confidential came about was I wanted to share my modifications with people around the world. Okay. So I'm in a name like five things that everyone loves that maybe aren't that good for you. And I want you to tell us what you would do to substitute. So the first one is cheese because there's a lot of cheese lovers. Nutritional yeast. 100%. That's it. No doubt about it.

That's it. No doubt about it. What is nutritional yeast? We have it, Michael. It's in the pantry. You got to use it. And did you get the cayenne one that I sent you a picture of? No, tell us about that. So you can get nutritional yeast in bulk at like a health food store, whole foods, jimbos, whatever. And I just buy it in bulk and then I put it in a container in my fridge. And then I spring, I swear it's awesome, has great benefits. I think there's a lot of vitamin Bs in it.

And it's kind of a cheesy flavor. You can sprinkle it on quinoa and salads on our fitness bread. It's the best. Lentel pasta, maybe a cheesy lentil pasta, like mac and cheese. When the team goes back in to do the show notes, I'm going to have them link this yeast so that I can go back to my own show notes and find. It's in the pantry. It's in the pantry.

Kim, one day I'm going to have you come over and look at this pantry. And I'm going to say, okay, find these five things. That's the game. That's the game. That's the game right there. Find the five things in the house. If you played the game, it's like find these five things and you're not allowed to come out until you find them,

you would open the door 10 years later and just find my skeleton laying there. All right, Michael. well, I'm sorry that I have a clean pantry. Like, it could be worse. Okay, the next one is my personal favorite. Sourdough. Bread? Yes.

Whole wheat sourdough. Where do I get that? Vons. They have whole wheat sourdough. Okay, let's take it a step further. Let's say, like, what's something that's maybe not exactly like sourdough, but something that will kind of help with that craving? Would you say, like, fitness bread?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because at the end of the day, it's a car. But sourdough does have a specific taste. I'm with you there. I'm into the game now. What about cheese burgers? In and out.

You're taking over my name? Big Macs, McDonald's, and In-N-Out burgers. Always bunless. Take the cheese off. Add a healthy fat. Do they have that there? Avocado. Avocado.

I don't think McDonald's is doing well in the avocado department, but maybe in and out. I'm not sure. Okay. My next one is a margarita. Skinny. And how do they do that at home? Dequila. Club soda, lots of lime.

I sometimes, I do put a little quantro in. I like my little. I like quantro too. Coffee. Spark. I know. Spark got me off coffee, guys. I love it.

So that's another. And again, they have a spark is loaded amino acids, vitamins, tons of vitamin B. A little bit of caffeine. So you do have a lot, but it's really just a mental focus alert drink. And you don't love coffee because it's acidic. No. coffee's very dehydrating, highly acidic, disruptive for the digestive tract. So there's many reasons. And I always tell my clients, well, last time I check your coffee didn't have vitamin B369 amino acids running through it unless I'm wrong.

So no, I used to be a coffee drinker, but, you know, I've found. Like crazy coffee drinker. Crazy. Like once or twice a day to those little coffee shops on the corner. Okay. Last one. Chocolate cake. Dark chocolate anything. I keep dark chocolate morsels on my fridge. And I keep dark chocolate morsels on my fridge. just open it up and like sprinkle like a little small handful so good and that like subsides the that does yeah and I love that chocolate quinoa crunchy I know that cereal it's by one degree you guys we'll put it in the show no yes love it is there anything before we go that you can just give like

a couple tips of things that you have in your fridge that's something that they can go buy a trader jo's you know what I really like um the farm how and not that it's something that's like overly tasty but I love it for what it does for my digestive health, and I actually do like the taste of it. Some people think it's weird, but the farmhouse sauerkraut kind of. Yeah, it's like kimchi, kind of. Yeah, kind of kimchi, but you can put it on anything,

and then you get the benefits of the probiotics, prebiotics. So that's always in my fridge, farmhouse. You tell me you put that on your fitness bread a lot, too. I do, I do. And I do eat meat. I eat organic chicken and turkey, I eat fish. So I'll put that, you know, on my bread with my breakfast. protein. It just has, I don't know, I like it. Yeah, it has a good little taste, like a zing. Yes. Okay,

I always have some type of spread. So usually that cilantro lime one, I like majestic as far as hummus goes. It's a sprouted almond. I just love it. I love majestic. Yeah. I know Lauren wanted to make that the last thing, but there was one question that I had. And then I want to maybe end on a high note. It's kind of a two-parter. You've trained a lot of people for a long time. You've seen a lot of different people come in and out of your fitness programs. What would you say, I don't want to call it a failure because maybe that's the wrong way I say, but what would you say the main reason for clients to drop off? It's the main reason for some of these people not to hit their fitness goals.

Like what is, is there something they're doing or is it a lack of motivation? And then the part two of that is what have you seen for your clients that have stayed motivated and have improved a lot? Like what are the contrast there that you see between these two people? So what makes someone drop off? Or like what make, I don't want to say like drop off. What makes somebody, somebody, it's not fail, but not hit their fitness goals. Like, where they like, maybe they get demoralize and they quit or they stop showing up or they start working out.

And then, you know, you see them a little later and they're not in such great shape. Yeah. Compared to somebody who you've seen kind of skyrocket and really hit goals and really get in good shape. Yeah. What is the, what are the two comparative differences there? I think the main thing is want. They want the change. They, like, almost desperately like.

so when you want something so badly, when you want to change, when you want to get healthier, or when it's important to it, when you put it at the top of your list, you'll work your week around it or you'll work your appointments around it. People that are kind of half in from the beginning, I find just, you know, I'll try to motivate them as much as I can, but it's in their mind, so it's their mindset. And it's perplexing to me because I feel like when you do get going on a rhythm, it always blows my mind when people don't start because of the endorphins and because of how you feel in the results that you're seeing and the energy. I feel like when I'm with you guys or clients,

like you give me energy, I give you energy and there's this ball of energy and then we leave with it and we go on throughout our day and do our lives, but that energy is still there with us and we feel so good. So I feel like it might be something personally happening in their life that's stopping them and whether it's in their mind or, you know, and family issues, business issues, I don't know, but I feel like if you can just stay consistent and put that effort in and find a group or find a trainer or find a class that you're like, this person's so great. They should make you feel rock star awesome at the end of the day. Whoever it is. They should make you feel like Apollo Creed made Rockabout.

Boom. You need to feel like you've left that workout, left that room, and you are on top of the world and you can do anything. And if you're going to a workout that you're leaving going, change, change it up, find something different, you know, try a new instructor, go to another studio, do an at-home workout. I, like I'm going to go back to, I think some type of small group environment would be good. Sometimes the individual stuff's okay, but the small group is more motivating, especially if you're struggling with that in your head or showing up or, you know,

getting those results. Put yourself around people that make you feel. good and you want to be around. I think that is an amazing way to end. Kim, thank you so much for being on the podcast. Where can everyone find you or email you if they want to contact you with questions? But be wary because if you train with her, you are in for some tough time. I feel sorry for you in a good way. When people come up to us on the beach, when we're working on, they say, hey, do you have a card? I'm like, oh man, you don't know what you're getting into. But no, in the best way, though. Thank you. You can sign up. I have an email list. If you go to Kim Kelly.

Okay. And if someone wants to email you, where can they find you? Through that as well. Okay, they can find you on your site. And what's your Instagram handle? Kim Kelly Fit. Kim Kelly Fit. And we'll include all this in the show notes, guys.

Thank you so much for being here. We're going to have you on again, definitely, and get even more niche down. I love it. Thank you guys so much. And I'll be frog leaping until you need next time. Now go hold a plank. Thanks, Kim. Thanks, guys.

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