The Bossticks - #88: The Morning Breath with Jackie and Claudia Oshry - A new kind of morning show, facebook groups, memes, and the digital age
Episode Date: November 14, 2017On this episode we interview the dynamic duo behind The Morning Breath Show, Jackie and Claudia Oshry to talk about their new show: The Morning Breath. Both women have built huge online platforms incl...uding Claudia's Girlwithnojob account. We cover a gauntlet of topics including what it takes to build a show in the digital age, memes, Facebook groups, beauty hacks and building an online audience. To connect with The Morning Breath click HERE To connect with Claudia click HERE To connect with Jackie click HERE To connect with Lauryn click HERE To connect with Michael click HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Bombshell Body Guide and Meal plan. tired of combating inflammation & bloat? Want to feel lighter and sexier? Check out lauryn's latest 7 day meal plan. In this simple & super effective plan you'll find: + tsc grocery list with every ingredient you need for the 7 days. + what the f*ck to do when you love carbs guide. + quick and delicious recipes: breakfast, snacks, lunch, dinner and dessert. You will also find 28 weeks worth of fat burning, muscle toning, 27 minute long, effective workouts you can do at home with no equipment. USE PROMO CODE: HIMANDHER at Checkout for 20% Off
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The Skinny Confidential.com.
She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
Fantastic.
And he's a serial entrepreneur.
A very smart cookie.
And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride.
Get ready for some major realness.
Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
Hey guys, happy Tuesday.
welcome back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. I want to kind of introduce ourselves
for those of you who are new listeners. So I'm Lauren Everett's Bostick. And seven years ago, I created
the brand The Skinny Confidential, which is a blog, book, YouTube channel, and obviously a podcast.
And The Skinny Confidential is a space on the internet where women can go to be inspired to be the
best version of themselves. So if you read the blog, you know I talk about everything from Botox to
facial massage to moving in with your significant other and even vagina steaming. And to my left is my
lovely, loving husband who gets a lot of points this week. A lot of points. Just got back from our
anniversary. My name is Michael Bostic. I'm an entrepreneur, businessman, product developer,
the boring side. Actually, kind of the fun side now. Sometimes, a lot of the time, with the skinny
confidential, the significant other per se. Yeah. You did such a good job on our
anniversary. Marketer. Oh, marketer. You were marketing in our anniversary. I was marketing myself so that I could get laid.
Oh, my God, Michael. Are you serious? I did a really good job. He recreated our entire wedding, which I don't know where you got that idea, but it was so cute. He basically did like all black calla leaves and a black tablecloth with black candles, all different heights, dimensions. You did a whole dinner under the stars, champagne.
You pulled out every trick in the book. You even brought a speaker.
Yeah. So that's why my mission was complete.
Yeah, you did a little boss of Nova. I was into it. And then we went back to the hotel.
We were staying in Cabo, like I said. And you had happy anniversary written on the bed and rose petals.
I did have some help with that. I wish I could take credit for that. Actually, I had a lot of help this weekend.
Thank you to the Palmia and Del Cabo down there. They helped me a lot.
But definitely had a lot of ideas. But no, I was not laying the rose.
pedals out, I'm sorry to say. That's not my forte. Well, Del Cabo weddings and the Palmia pulled out every
card. So we really appreciated that. The bathtub was full of bubbles. I told you last week that I was
that I was going to be romantic. You were so romantic. I was actually blown away. Yep, you need to step
your game up. All right. Okay. So today we have the girls from the morning breath. And we're going to
talk kind of about everything. We're going to talk about memes. We're going to talk about how to build a
morning show in the digital age,
Facebook watch, Facebook groups,
and we're going to sing.
You're going to sing, that's for sure.
In the middle of the show, they bust into a medley.
I won't ruin it, but...
Don't ruin it.
I won't ruin it.
Okay, let's do the him and her tip real quick
before we get into the show.
After you.
Okay.
All right, honey, you're being so polite.
The her tip of the week is going to bore the fuck out of Michael.
So sorry.
I'm going to tune out, no.
Yeah, tune out.
It's highlighter.
So Highlighter makes such a difference in the makeup routine when it's done, right, you guys?
I wanted to just talk on this since I've gotten so many DMs about the Instagram story I posted about Highlighter today.
So basically, I like to apply it to the inner corners of my eyes because it's going to brighten the whites of your eyes and it's also going to brighten your teeth, which is super ideal.
I always go for ones that are not gold-toned.
I like a more silver-white tone because it's going to bring those whites out, like I said.
I also put it on the bridge of my nose, my browbone, and even on the M of my lip, like right
above my lip, it kind of gives you like a little pout. So the one I like is by Glossier.
Is it Glossier or Glossier or one of those? And then I also like one by Mac.
And I think the color is called Gleam. I'll leave it in a blog post on the Skinny Convincial
for this episode, but it's amazing. It's also really insane if you use it on your collarbone.
I know that sounds really weird.
So weird.
Michael's rolling his eyes.
He has no idea what I'm talking about.
But it really pops the collarbone.
I put it on the right and the left collarbone just along the line of it.
And I apply my highlighter with a dampened beauty blender.
So I like to wet the beauty blender first and then squeeze it out and then put the product on it.
It just does something that gives you this dewy glow.
And then obviously always prime it with an oil or a really good primer.
If you want to go even further, Mimi gave me this tip that all the college girls are doing
and high schoolers. She said to take Mac Fix, and you know this if you follow this Gini Confidential
on YouTube, and open it up, so you have the bottle of Mac Fix, and then take a cheap
highlighter from Rite Aid. I think I used NYX Highlighter and crack it, and then pour the
highlighter in the fix. So you have a highlighter spray. So I've been taking my highlighter spray that I
DIYed and I just spray it on like my chest or my arms and it's really pretty and glowy. And I went
for a more golden tone on that since it's for my skin. So you want to think white, silverish for your
face and then golden tones for your skin. So those are all my highlight tips. Make sure you get your
glow on with that highlighter. All right. You're up.
Well, my tip is going in a completely different direction.
I have to be honest, I zoned out a little during yours, which I usually don't zone out
too much when you're talking, but I was completely lost there.
You could use some highlighter.
But this is something that hopefully applies to everyone, even the men out there.
I know there's still a few of you out there listening.
I see I get the messages once in a while.
I think we're up to 10 men so far.
But this is also for women as well.
It's for everybody.
So during the trip down in Cabo, we read and relaxed a lot.
I went back and forth between a fiction book called The Sisters Brothers, sorry guys,
and another book called The Purple Cow, which a lot of you may have heard about.
It's by Seth Godin, who many consider to be one of the godfathers of internet marketing.
And the Purple Cow is all about creating extraordinary products or services or brands that stand out.
So an example that Seth uses in the book is he was on a trip one time in Europe and they went by,
they were driving on a trip with his family and they went by this big herd of cows on the side of the road.
And at first they were all amazed and everybody was staring out the window and saying,
wow, this is so incredible.
But over time, after 10, 15 miles, it actually became underwhelming, boring.
They kind of stopped paying attention.
They started ignoring it.
And he uses this example to relate to brands and services and products.
and all the things that we do.
And to relate it to a product,
he said, imagine how exciting it would be
if you were the first person to market aspirin, for example.
And he said, if you were the first person to market aspirin,
it was so exciting because it's a product that everyone needed,
everyone wanted, it was going to help everybody.
But now when you go to CVS or a Rite Aid or whatever,
you see aspirin, Aleve, Tylenol, I don't know, whatever,
Motrin, all these things, and it's become very, you know, it's you're not interested in anymore.
It's still a product people use, but it's a product that not a lot of people talk about.
So it's not a purple cow.
It's not a purple cow anymore.
It's not one of those things where, you know, Lauren's going to see it or a new Advil type of,
or aspirin type of medication is going to come out and we're going to go raving about it to our friends.
It's kind of been there, done that.
So the reason I bring this up and relate it to a tip is we get a lot of questions about new bloggers
or, you know, creating an Instagram account,
or creating a personal brand or creating a podcast.
And there's a lot of people that, you know, want to know how to do this or are thinking
about doing this.
And a lot of the time we get these questions like, how do I, how do I do this?
And if you've listened to this podcast for a long time, we've talked all about starting
and how to stand out and how to market yourself and all these things.
But I think one thing that is really important for everyone to think about.
And this could be whether you're creating a company or a brand or a service or you want to
be an influencer or you want to create a podcast or you want to create a YouTube
show or a morning show like we're going to talk about the morning breath you have to have something
that's completely unique that's a wow factor right if if most of the time that occurs when somebody
stands out and does something extraordinary but the problem is when you mimic that person or follow
them according to set in this book and in which i agree is that first person has already done that
extraordinary thing or that amazing thing that's made them stand out so you by the time you get there or
we get there, whoever's mimicking, you've kind of already lost the excitement around people that
are going to talk about it. So I guess my tip here is when you're thinking about marketing a product
or service, you want to think of not really following the herd, but going out on your own. And the only
way to do this is to be original, be yourself, come up with something that is completely unique that's
going to get people talking. If you're just going into a space or a field and kind of copying or
mimicking something that's been done before, you're going to have a really difficult time standing
out and getting traction. So when you think about creating whatever you're creating, whether it's a
service or a business or a product, you're to think what is that factor that's going to make you
that, as Seth calls it, Purple Cow? What's going to be something that's original? What's going to be
something that people want to talk about? They want to share. What is unique about what you're doing?
I think these girls that are doing the Morning Breath are a really good example. They created this show as
like a morning show, you know, they brought it into the digital space, and I think that they have a
really unique spin on it, and they've done a good job, which is why I think they've had the traction.
But when you're thinking about whatever you're doing, what could your Purple Cow moment be?
That's my tip.
Great tip, honey.
Okay, so the morning breath is on the skinny confidential him and her podcast today, which is really
exciting, you guys, because they are just funny AF.
We love mixing it up and meeting other creatives, and these girls are pure comedy.
The Morning Breath is a podcast and live Facebook show that's hosted by two sisters.
Claudia Oshrey, and she's from The Girl with No Job, and Jackie Oshrey, who has a super big social media presence.
They discuss everything from The Bachelor to Lewin's Epic Hangovers to Spencer Pratt's hummingbird obsession, just everything.
They're kind of the pulse on all things TV.
Their show is hysterical and their chemistry is flaky.
Oh, and be sure to listen to our Little Mermaid duet because I feel like it's a winning.
performance. With that, let's welcome the women behind the morning breath.
This is the skinny confidential, him and her. Okay, you guys, introduce yourselves to our audience.
We're just going to hop right in. I'm Jackie Aschay, co-host of the morning breath, sister of Claudia
Asheret slash Girl with No Job, international fashion and lifestyle brand extraordinaire. Some people might call
me. I would. Thank you. And I'm Claudia Ashtray, Girl With No Job, and that's pretty much it. And
sister of Jackie O, fellow morning show host of the morning breath.
Okay, and then there's Theo, too.
This is Pup with No Job.
He has more Instagram followers than the average dog.
Wow.
He's up 55,000.
And average human.
Yes.
He's chewing on your suitcase.
I'm truly sorry.
I will not be covering the cost of the suitcase if he does break it.
Well, Michael brought a suitcase.
He carries it all around New York.
Timmy just sent it to us.
Yeah, but he's been carrying it everywhere, so I've had to chase him around with a suitcase.
It's pretty embarrassing when your husband's walking 200 feet in front of you with a suitcase.
Honestly, I hate carrying suitcase.
is in public.
Yeah, unless it's the airport.
What's I going to do?
Like load all this stuff on like a big, you know, like those big camping backpack.
That's terrible too.
Yeah.
It's all pretty bad.
For those of our audience members who don't know you, tell us about the morning breath.
The morning breath is a daily morning show that is streamed live on Facebook and Instagram.
Then it's also a podcast and available on YouTube.
So we're really available anywhere people want to hear or see us.
And it's basically like the view, but better.
For young people.
For young people who have Instagram.
Instagram.
And for people who don't really care, like not care, but don't really want to talk about politics all the time.
I like it.
So there's no politics, no religion.
No.
Religion because we're like annoyingly Jewish.
Like we want everyone to know.
So we're religious in that sense.
We talk about Scientology as well.
Yes.
We're big.
Scientology debunkers.
Debunkers.
Yeah.
We're about exposing their truths.
Okay.
Leah needs to come on the show.
Leah, I'm in love with her.
She would be so good on your show.
We got to get her on.
I'm sure she would come on.
I can't believe people are still getting, like, drawn into Scientology in 2017.
How's that even happening?
I don't know.
And, you know, sometimes I, like, go on my Snapchat and I go on these crazy rants about
Scientology.
And then I remember that it's, like, technically a religion.
And, like, imagine if someone was saying this about your religion.
How rude is that?
And then I'm like, well, technically there's, like the safe space where you can really
say whatever you want about Scientology because people who are on Scientology, like, don't have
Instagram.
They don't?
No, like, you really can.
And I was asking my followers, I was going on this rant.
And I'm like, wait, are any of you guys Scientologists?
And a bunch of them responded to me and they were like, no, you really can't be on social media.
But I know my friend is a Scientologist and they come into her house every night and like beat up her brother or something, you know.
Wow.
It's crazy.
What other guests have you guys had on the show that are like amazing?
Who's been your favorite guest so far?
We've had some really great housewives.
This week we had Danielle Stab.
Leanne Locken.
You had Danielle?
Yeah.
Tell me everything.
She was honestly really like subdued and nice.
Okay.
I'm just not 100% sure if that's like her authentic self.
but she seemed lovely.
She was such a pleasure to film with.
Yeah.
Did she talk about her book?
No.
She didn't talk about Cop Without a Badge.
But she did talk about like seasons one, two, and three about kind of how she got table
flipped at her.
She was pretty much an open book.
I didn't want to push it though.
Cop Without a Badge is obviously like a hot button issue for her.
People were asking some questions and I was like scared to ask on their behalf.
Like someone asked about her friend Danny from the first season.
I was like I don't want to bring him up.
Because he's definitely dead.
I actually remember him.
That guy Steve who wore the Ed Hardy T-shirts.
No, and someone was like, how did your kids feel about when you were like in the bathroom with that guy?
I was like, I'm not asking you.
Her kid's like a model, right?
Yeah.
Her kid, actually, her kids are really impressive.
And accomplished.
She tried to get her oldest daughter to be a model, but the daughter is just 4.0 GPA, going to Columbia grad school, just graduated to Summa Cum Laude.
Like, really impressive.
Wow.
Yeah.
And what about Leanne?
In love with her.
An angel from God.
I think she's the best housewife we've ever had.
I agree.
She's like a nini in the making.
Yeah.
She's almost better than me.
Of course, because she is like, she's single-handedly really carrying the show in a lot of
senses because they don't have guaranteed seasons.
Like, they were lucky to get a second season and Leanne is making it her job to ensure
they get a third season.
Even if it means going to Mexico with open wounds and getting a flesh-eating bacteria.
I know, but she got the flesh-eating bacteria and she was looking great.
By the man, when she came here, she's so skinny, she looked amazing.
She said she lost 30 pounds.
30-pounds.
Yeah.
So we need to get me one of those.
Huh.
Like licking her cup?
Or just get a breast job.
Yeah.
Go to Mexico.
I've been needing one of those.
Cross your fingers.
I want to talk to you guys about how you content marketed on Instagram before you launch this.
So you have a huge following.
Tell us, like, about that.
Did you know you were going to launch something like this with your sister?
So we actually just came up with the name for the morning breath like years ago.
We thought it would be hilarious, like a morning show called The Morning Breath.
So we've been like sitting on this idea forever.
And then once we find the right partner in Yahoo slash oath, they basically gave us, gave us the resources to do.
do it. So there wasn't a lot of prep, literally our first day, kind of working in partnership
with Oath. We launched it in like the most basic amateur way on an iPhone in some green room.
And then as we started to like acclimated into the company, they started giving us, you know,
studio lighting, cameras, things like that. And we've kind of pulled in our own personal audiences
to form the morning breath audience. But what's cool about is that a lot, there are a lot of people
who care about Bravo and there are a lot of people who care about Real Housewives and The Bachelor.
So we're not limited to our audience. And there's a huge podcast nation of people,
especially when it comes to reality TV.
So we got to really tap into a totally new audience
besides the ones we've already built.
Got it. So did you know when you were launching your Instagram
that you were kind of content marketing for something eventually?
Or was it just you playing around with me?
Maybe even go further back.
Why did you launch your Instagram?
Well, I graduated from college last year.
And when I was in college, I started this blog.
This was like four or five years ago.
blogs weren't as big as they are now.
Like the only notable ones were like Preshilton and like Manapur.
And I started this blog when I got an internship
and I basically used it to talk shit about it.
run like nobody read it it was like so sad it was like made on Tumblr um and i don't know i kind of got fired
from the internship changed the name from girl with a job to girl with no job and that obviously resonated
a little bit more with our generation um i took to social media to kind of drive traffic to the website
but kind of found this trend of like entertainment content memes on social media and the brand kind of
shifted to just being on instagram um so the point of this was never to like have a job it was more just like
being fun in college posting done things on Instagram, but by the time I graduated,
it was like a legitimate enough business that I didn't have to like get a nine to five.
This was my job.
And do you create the memes yourself?
It's a combination.
I would say, depending on how much time I have, it could be 50, 50, it could be 90, 10.
There are certain things that go viral on the internet that you kind of want to piggyback on.
So that kind of content is curated.
But if I'm just like walking around or if I see something really funny that I want to make content into,
then I make it myself.
It just depends.
Okay.
We had the fat Joe on our show.
show Josh and we were like talking about memes and how like he had that he got caught in that whole
like uproar of people getting pissed about me yeah his answer was amazing what he said it's amazing
what do you say he basically was like listen it's like the internet like you know like I don't know if
you guys remember you're a little bit younger but there's a site back in the day called ebom's world
I don't know if you guys remember you remember that it's like it was like almost like one of the
original meme sites and you go there and you see like all this curated content from everybody
basically it's a communal site where everybody uploaded funny content I feel like Instagram and a lot
these platforms are the same.
And to me, what I think is more important is the commentary that the individual puts behind
the meme.
Because, like, anybody could take the same picture with the same commentary.
And then your commentary that you add is what makes it even funny.
I completely agree.
And that's why he's so funny.
His captains are funnier than his meat.
Yeah.
He's fucking hilarious.
I totally agree.
I was very much on his side in the sense that, like, you can't expect, like, you have
no idea kind of where, once a meme gets to you, where it's been, it could start on
Twitter and then turn into a Tumblr post.
It can change visually so much that by the time someone, quote,
unquote submits it to you and takes responsibility for it.
It could not, it necessarily could have been literally made 10 years ago.
You have no idea.
So to expect that every single post is going to be from the originic, literally there are jokes
that have been on the internet for 10 years.
But having said that there is a responsibility once you have a big platform to do your due
due diligence, it's not that hard.
And a lot of the times if you post incorrectly, like the person who created it will just email
you and it's just, just don't be a dick.
That's like the rule.
That's exactly what you said.
Don't be a dick.
And there are dicks.
There are dicks.
That's interesting.
Okay.
I want to talk about you. I found you on Twitter. Did you start Twitter to like do something like the morning breath?
No, not necessarily. I started my Twitter when I was in college because I was just like tweeting about regular college problems. And I guess like my friends were like, oh, you're like extra funny. Like your Twitter account is, you know, better than the rest of us.
It's really funny. So I, my name was just like Jackie Asher. And this was around the time when all those like problems accounts were popping up. And they were all like anonymous or like not real people. And I was like, well, I have a face and I'm a real person. So I like made it.
name and it was actually worked out in my favor because I wanted to make a Jackie O's
problems but that was too long so I made a Jackie O problems which just made it more like
universally attractive for people because you don't really want to follow like some
random girl who goes to Colgate but like oh a girl named Jackie O who's just talking about her
problems that's a little bit more relatable so and you're adorable oh thanks so it used to be a big
on Twitter just like complaining about life boys being hungry being in college like in hindsight
site really basic stuff that's like not what we categorizes basic right um and then just as every other
social platform popped up i just joined it with the same personality that i had on twitter so like
instagram chat even vine uh Pinterest i just would be anywhere where i could be and i did that more so
not even to totally build a brand that i could i could sustain and not have to get a job but i built
up my social platform so that i could get a job in social media and that's what i had been doing up until
we started the morning breath. I was actually working as a social media manager at AOL. And before that,
I did that at IHR Radio and HuffPost. So I was actually using social media to get jobs. And it's
great that it's turned into my actual job. Yeah, that's incredible. What's a day in the life for you guys
now that you're doing your morning show? And I want to hear everything down to when you drink too
much the night before and have to wake up. Yeah. When we were amateurs in the beginning of the show,
we used to like do our regular drinking schedule and then have to wake up and do the show. And what was
What's a regular drinking special?
I want to know more about that.
Honestly, it varies, but like I recently went to the doctor and had like a life
evaluation that I really need to stop drinking.
But usually it's definitely like a Thursday, Friday, Saturday drink, and then maybe one
during the week.
Okay.
I remember the first week of the show.
We started on a Monday.
And then that night, it was when two people were on Watch What Happens Live that we really
wanted to go out with.
And we finally, they texted us where they were going out.
We had our second show the next day.
And it's midnight and we're like, well, we have to go.
Yeah.
So we literally went out when drinking.
And then it showed up to do the show the next day.
And I think we learned the whole.
hard way that we can't always do that sometimes it's like an opportunity we can't right use your better
judgment yeah okay okay you can't have the night of your life it's fine okay so what's a day in the life
that's just normal you like what time do you wake up when do you do the show like give us the whole layout
so the show goes live at 1030 a.m. Eastern time from yawood studios we do our own hair and makeup uh there
we do have touchups available in-house um but typically if we could arrive technically at 1029 sit in the
chair and start the show. And you said you do no prep. We do no prep. Our sister Olivia sends us
the stories around 930, five stories, links, full text. We read them. We do not talk about them
deliberately because we don't want to waste our good jokes and then have to fake laugh when we repeat
them on air. Got it. I want to really react to Claudia's jokes on air and vice versa if I have any jokes.
And yeah, we just, it's totally off the cuff. What about you watch shows though? So that's
prep, right? That is prep because a lot of the time from trying to recap the show the next
day, which is harder than one would think it's like, oh, your job is to watch TV, but there's
so many shows. Monday nights now are completely dedicated to television. There was a time this
summer when it was Bachelor and Paradise was on, well, four hours a week, but just Monday nights
was Bachelor and Paradise, Real House Eyes of Dallas, Real House Eyes of O.C. Ciesta Key. And I think
something else that I can't remember. You would kill me. And our night is, people are like,
what are you doing tonight? It's like, I have to watch TV for work. And then watch what happens
live. So we're home watching TV from 8 to 1130, which isn't as glamorous as it doesn't.
And what if you have a glass of wine too many and then you forget?
No, it's crazy.
Okay, okay, so after the show is done, then you're done for the day?
Well, it depends a lot of the time.
Well, now that I have a dog, I'm like a full-time dog mom.
But usually than that, I have a lot of like girl.
This is morning breath that I would say is like half my day.
And then girl with the job is the other half.
So I do a lot of, I meet with different brands, different clients, different agencies around the city.
I do a lot of traveling.
So it really depends every day.
But I try and devote maybe four or five hours to actually maintaining girls.
Girl with no job.
And that's pretty gnarly that people think that you just post an Instagram and you're done
and there's so much more that goes into that.
For sure, you have to like refresh your picture a hundred times to make sure it's getting
likes.
A hundred percent.
Besides a caption, that's stressful.
Oh, and I always have typos.
And you have a new bio, which I'm sure took a long time.
Okay.
I sat on it for a really long time.
I've had the same bio since day one of Girl With No Job and people love it.
But I felt like I was sort of taking credit for a quote that I did not come up with
and it was my dream job as not needing one, which is still very much true.
But people were associating it with me and I did not create it.
So I felt guilty.
Where is it from?
Like in an e-card, you know, like something on the internet.
Okay.
I wish I made it up.
And then I tried to sell T-shirts with it and, like, I had in trouble because I literally
did not make it up.
I learned the hard way.
So I've been sitting on this for a while and I think I landed on something pretty
premium.
Okay.
I love it.
So what about you?
What about after the podcast is over?
So after we film the morning breath, then goes into like the marketing machine behind
the breath.
So it's optimizing it on Facebook and like tagging everything correctly on YouTube.
We upload the podcast.
podcast and then I manage the morning breath
Instagram account so posting relevant
content throughout the day that either promotes the show we just
did or news as it's breaking and then also
promoting some of our other and newer projects so
most recently we launched
an after show for Riverdale called Afterdale
Did you guys watch Riverdale?
Somebody just told us about we were just at the PR company
and they said that. Wait is it cheesy though? It's so
good. Okay I like CESTA key is it like that's so different
but like similar vibes. Okay it is cheesy
but it's so good and I can understand why people wouldn't like it so I don't recommend it to everyone
but I feel like you would like it okay Michael that's on our list what happens now because I know for a while
Facebook was like really prioritizing Facebook Live which was probably great for you guys what happens
now for you guys with the like with the watch section of Facebook so we technically are not on watch
I don't really know why but it's just not something we've kind of prioritized no one's asked
Our viewership is really strong on Facebook
So I don't think at this moment in time
It's something we're like desperate for
And I think we might even get lost
On the Facebook watch page
Because there is so much content out there
That's not really similar to ours
But it's definitely something we're open to
Honestly, every single time I'm scrolling through Facebook
In the morning I see you guys pop up right away
I don't know if that's because I watch you
That it's prioritizing me
But I see you guys all the time
Well that's good
After Mark Zuckerberg listens to this episode
He'll reach out
And also Mark while we're taking requests
Can we get my dog verified on Instagram
Please.
Oh, he needs one.
I'm annoying.
He's so verifiable.
Look at him.
He's being such a good boy.
He is a good boy.
Oh, God.
He's literally an angel.
He's so tired.
He's super, super sweet.
So you guys also have a secret Facebook group.
Yes.
So do you.
Yeah.
So do I.
And it's definitely like a full-time job.
That's another full time.
It's really, like, intense.
It's really intense.
But it makes me feel so good.
Because it's a community.
It's huge.
It's huge.
And I've had to crack the whip a couple times.
Did you?
Yeah, I've had to crack it.
Because I'm like, this is positive community.
like.
Right.
Yours is really positive and like uplifting.
But see, this is the thing.
I heard rumors about your group that it was like an amazing gossip page and I joined and
everyone was so nice.
Yeah,
they are really nice.
Why is everyone's really nice?
This is not what I'm here for.
I was here for like housewife scoop and everyone's like, what are the best apps for
picture editing?
And I'm like, what?
This is not what I'm here for.
Anyone have any resume tips?
Yeah, no.
Everyone was so sweet and like sending recommendations to each other for like local trips.
Yeah, everyone's very nice.
But you guys still have really nice group.
your group. We love our group. And now it's like my whole Facebook news feed is from our group and I love it. It was better than what it was before, which is like a rogue political opinion from a guy I don't even know. And now it's like these girls are so sweet and guys. And it was one of our brothers that got me into Skindy Confidential. I was like, bitch, friend me I want to get in. Oh my God. I love it. I cut off subscription because I don't want it to get too big where it's like out of control. So I'm trying to make it a little bit more intimate. Don't you think with like things like that originally there's like the people that come because they're there for for you and what you're doing. And then.
like as people learn about it, it's like they kind of tell a friend.
It's like, I'm going to get, and then they kind of, you start to, you start to get people
in there. It's like, yeah, how to hell?
You don't even know it.
Who don't even listen to the breath.
Yeah.
Sometimes it can get negative.
You got to crack the whip.
So you guys also are big on community, which I love.
I think that that's so underrated.
And I think 2018 is all about community instead of like what I ate, what I wore, you know?
Tell me about that.
Like, what's your community like?
I mean, I feel like kind of the reason we started the breath is because like me as like a 23,
girl, chubby Jewish girl. I do not feel represented whatsoever in like mainstream media.
Like I would never turn on a show. I love Ellen. I don't relate to her whatsoever and the same
goes for the view. So I think kind of the impetus behind starting the morning breath was just to
make it like a safe space for people who are really similar to us all over the country just to
like talk about stuff. And so kind of like the core of the morning breath is community,
which is why the community is so strong. I think it's really important to us. The fact that we do
the show live, we get to incorporate all the live Instagram and Facebook comments. So it's really
is like people participate and people give us really good like inside scoop. That's not always correct.
While we're doing the show, yeah, we're able to get people's reactions in real time,
and also sometimes they're able to correct us or like, all the time.
If news breaks, they like write it, oh, my God, do you see what Taylor Swift just Instagram?
And then we're able to incorporate that into the show.
So we're all back in the meeting.
And it's like, we all have the same interest.
Like, if you're watching The Breath or Claudia or Jackie, like, we all like the same stuff.
So it's like, oh, naturally we'll get along.
I love Spencer Pratt.
You guys need to have him back on.
That was my favorite.
I was crying laughing.
Honestly, once we, like, sat down and spoke to him, I was like he's a genius.
Yeah, he's really, really, really smart.
And he plays his character, but he's very much like business-minded.
And what him and Heidi are doing, like revamping their careers, is brilliant.
Yeah, I think it's great.
They might outdo Lauren Conrad.
They're definitely going to.
It shouldn't be hard because she had one of the lowest selling magazine covers of all time.
And he'll never let you forget it.
Ever.
No, I actually went and bought it to support him.
I didn't buy it, but when I saw other people buying it, I was happy for them to do it in my stead because I'm too lazy to get up and go to the news.
Well, what I've learned is that, like, they don't sell magazines everywhere in the city.
I went to three newsstands for a magazine.
For a magazine that Claudia was in, so I was like intentionally going out looking for magazines.
I went to three newsstands and they didn't have any magazine.
What magazine were you?
What?
Life and style.
Cool.
I like it.
I need to look at that.
Yes, I'll send you a copy.
I have literally 100.
Love it.
What challenges have you guys had with podcasting?
Because we've had a few.
Or with the show.
Working together.
Or how's it like working with your sisters?
We love it.
We love working together.
We really don't fight.
I think because we know if we did, it would just ruin the show.
Like 90% of the show is just a lot.
our chemistry. So if we ever fought, we'd be like ruining our own show. And what was your
relationship like before? I think we're like better friends now than we were before we start.
We've always been close. We've always been close. But now we do everything together. Not only do we
work together, but we go out together, which we always have. But so there's no separation now and
it's great that we don't fight. If we, if we were sisters who fought, this wouldn't work.
What about the challenges of being on live? Is there any challenges? What if you mess up?
Well, now that we're like super legit, there are definitely challenges. Like we have to be, you know,
We don't want to say something that's wrong or we don't want to kind of miscommunicate things.
So we have to be really careful about, even though it is like this like gossip like show,
we still have a responsibility to be like sort of truthful.
Yeah.
So there's definitely an, I feel like an obligation to not be so crazy.
Okay.
You can't just spew anything and get away with it anymore.
No, and like we were doing that.
Yeah, a little bit.
More so you.
More me.
Yeah.
I'm there to keep her in check.
Yeah.
No, Jackie's like perfect and I'm always getting in trouble with people.
No, but she makes people laugh.
So it works.
That's why it works.
Yeah, you guys have great chemistry.
I'm sure everyone tells you that.
And I'm sure you get recognized a lot.
It's really fun.
You know, sometimes it's like I will never, ever, ever, ever be one of those persons who says no to taking a picture.
Like, really, you're so grateful that literally anybody knows your name.
So just take the picture.
But definitely some places are more overwhelming than others.
Like kosher restaurants in New York are just like our space.
And sometimes it gets really overwhelming.
But it's not that we don't like taking a picture.
Just sometimes I feel so awkward because I'm like, thank you, thank you.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know what else to say other than thank you.
And there's definitely a lot of pressure when you come from the internet because there are 100% people who don't necessarily transcend the internet to real life thing. And there's like that stigma of people who are just famous on the internet and are losers for a reason. For a reason. I just remembered that I saw you singing on your Instagram story. I think it was Celine Dion. It's always Celine Dion. I was crying, dying, laughing. You guys have to follow you on Instagram stories. Was that on your personal? So I have like so many pages.
Where did I see that?
You probably saw it on my Girl With No Job, Instagram story.
I found, okay, so I found Jackie, like I said, and then I found you.
And then I saw that Celine Dion story, and I was like, I do this Celine Dion bit, like, once a month because I think that song is amazing.
It's really good the way you do that.
And I think the Glee version is even better.
You're actually a really good singer.
Yeah.
Well, see, that's, like, the other thing.
It's like, I'm always joking about singing.
But, like, I have, like, an amazing voice.
Like, I'm not trying to, like, fuck with you.
I'm just, like, you wouldn't think that, like, I'm just always joking around about how I'm the voice of my generation.
but like I have Mariah carry like sensibilities.
But she just needs to be trained.
That's also the fun thing about the morning breath.
It's like a morning show musical because we burst out into a song probably three times per episode.
Do you sing as well?
My voice is atrocious, but I'm getting better.
And when I'm sick, it's much better.
So then I sing more.
I love a good sick song voice.
Right?
Too much friends.
A little mermaid.
Kind of.
Oh my God, I have so many friends references.
And Jackie doesn't watch.
And so I don't have anyone to talk to.
I just got her into watching Seinfeld.
Yeah.
You know, I have like mixed feelings about Seinfeld.
because I don't think it's that funny.
How are you?
That's how I feel about friends.
23.
23, yeah.
So you like kind of miss the boat a little bit.
But I'm 25.
But you watch it.
See, because we,
I think I grew up with it or seeing it.
And so now like,
but I can understand like when you look back on it.
You know why?
Because they didn't have any cell phones back then.
It was just no,
there's no relevant kind of technology.
Yeah, but that's the way I feel about friends.
It's like the show literally was made almost 20 years ago.
And I think it's so funny and relatable.
And that's what's so cool about it is that it literally transcends generation.
Same with like sex in the city.
I don't feel that way about Seinfeld.
What about Kirby enthusiasm?
So I have not into it.
I have plans to get into it, but I know that I will like it.
You will like it.
Yeah.
What was the friend's reference?
Because maybe the audience was.
It is funny.
Phoebe's a singer.
And she has a terrible voice and sings terrible songs, but they let her play at the coffee house.
And she gets really sick.
She gets like pneumonia and she, like her career like takes off because she sounds amazing.
And she sings a song, sticky shoes.
And it's just really funny.
Like you have to be your friends.
It's really good.
I sing The Little Mermaid really well.
Which song?
I want to be where the people are.
Look at this stuff.
Isn't it neat?
Wouldn't you think my collection's complete?
You have such a Disney voice.
Thank you.
This is my life.
Wouldn't you think I'm the girl?
The girl who has everything.
I've got statues and gizmos are plenty.
I've got who's it's and what's it's galore.
You want thingabob's?
I've got 20.
But who cares?
No big deal.
I want more.
We're going to bust out the sound system.
Michael's freaking.
No, no, it's good.
I can't hold it.
I want the period, like the quality to come through.
I think I'm really good at that song.
That was good.
That was really good.
Sorry we co-opted.
Thank you.
No, I love it.
Okay, so do you guys have any beauty or wellness tips that we need to know?
You're both adorable, beautiful.
Give us the juice.
People always asking like what my skin routine is.
And like it's such an annoying answer, but I was literally blessed with amazing skin because I never wash my face.
Your face is great.
Thank you.
That's the first thing I look at his skin.
Neutrogena makeup remover wipes are God's gift to this earth.
Really?
As are, yes.
Yes.
That's all I use as well.
Don't you guys feel like the makeup.
wipes pull the face down. That's like a rumor
people have started these days and I don't believe it.
No, I heard that so then for a while I was
pushing it up but it's just harder so now I just
take it down but when I get tattoos I just
only use dove soap because like that's it
I don't want to hear about tattoos I want to hear about
what do you use on the skin makeup off? I use olive oil
from room service I'm not joking.
It's disgusting. What about weighing your home? It is I use oil
olive oil, grape seed oil. I'm telling you
I swear on my life it gets rid of fine
And it's like, you wake up with perfect.
No, who cares about your bread?
It takes away fine lines.
It takes your makeup off in one swoop.
And you wake up and your skin is like, feels so good.
Try it.
I'm going to try it today.
Try it.
I'm just waiting to get the moment.
Forget the weight.
Okay, but like when Jackie and I were kids, we had lice.
And one of the treatments, we had like a hundred times.
Also, if you didn't have lice, you're lying.
Yeah.
There's no shame in lice.
You lied about lice.
I never lied about lice.
You did lie about lice.
I've never been asked you that before.
I've never been asked about lice.
It's fine.
You lied about lice.
No, and it's just like there's so much shame that comes with lice, and I feel like it's unwarranted.
Like a normal kid gets lice.
It means you have friends and people want to hug you.
Yeah, and like you were cool enough to go to sleep away camp.
So we had lice and one of the treatments that we had a lot of success with was you were supposed to sleep with olive oil in your hair for two weeks.
And now I literally like winced at the smell of olive oil because this traumatic experience it has a child.
Do grape seed.
Okay.
Or rose hip.
I'm telling you it's the like, it's fills in your lines.
It's crazy.
Try it.
You have amazing skin.
You really do.
I do.
I never go in this.
But you guys don't either, I can tell.
Because we're pale.
We just like physically don't like being in the sun.
No, it's un- I get sweaty and it's painful.
I don't like to be in the sun for one second.
I have driving gloves.
Yeah, no, I literally, I literally am always under an umbrella.
I'm just like so unpleasant when I'm in the sun.
That's good.
I have like one wrinkle here that I'm planning on fixing.
And it's because I'm always like squinting at the sun.
I don't see the wrinkle, but I got Botox because we're in the ones.
Yeah.
You did?
Yeah, right here.
Right exactly what you're talking about.
And did you feel like it was not only like it fixed it, but it was also preventative?
It is the most preventative.
preventative thing you could do because I'm doing it for my birthday next week I had a wrinkle that was
deeper when I was 21 than I then I then now right you have to nip it in the bud and what it does is it kind
of opens your face right here just a little bit and it looks nice yeah no it's not even that the wrinkle
bothers me it's like I don't want to be able to make that face yeah that I'm angry when I'm not
exactly and it what it does not only opens it is it just completely paralyzes it I'm telling you
And it also paralyzes up here.
Okay, I'm doing it.
So we're doing it.
I did a blog post on it and just out it myself.
It's great.
And you know what I hate?
It's like there's no shame in like doing things like that.
So people who lie about it, I can't even with them.
No, no, no.
Let me ask you this.
So she's trying to get me to do it like crazy, right?
The cursive line.
We got four beautiful women at the table now.
Okay, you're trying to get points.
Getting points.
Getting points.
30 years old.
I feel like men got to be careful.
You know, I haven't done it yet.
I'll tell you if I did.
But she wants me to do it.
But I feel like as a man, you've got to have some kind of expression.
I say 10 units.
This is the thing.
Men, Mother Nature is sexist and men can pull off wrinkles.
They're almost sexy.
Like, women, you look like a hag.
And men, you look cool and like George Clooney.
I just got to be careful that my forehead doesn't, like, fall over my face.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
See, Lauren, I told you not.
Really?
Yes, but you do have, like, deep eyes.
So if you do get older and your eyebrows begin to fall into your eyes, then you
could do it.
But you look nice.
Don't do it.
I got, like, yeah, my eyes I have difficulty with it.
I feel like I'm going to have to, like, over time,
these are going to fall down.
You're going to need an island.
Drink a lot of water.
Like, anytime I notice that my skin's bad either I've been traveling or just been really busy,
like if I make an conscious effort to drink a couple bottles of water, like, it really, really helps.
I think we both are like less is more.
Like I see some like Instagramers who do their night routine and it literally goes on for two hours.
No, we can't do that.
No, it's just like less is more.
Your skin is not going to be happy with all these different chemicals on it.
I totally agree.
And if you have like a real clinical problem, like see a doctor.
Yeah.
No drugstore thing is going to help you.
Right.
You need Dr.
Dennis Grosspeel.
pods. Those are amazing. After like a long weekend or something every once in a while I'll do a
face mask or something but you don't you can't do that stuff every night. And now that's more as like
like in your head. What about makeup? I'm looking at your eyelashes. My okay actually I did
the extensions. Real. Wait extensions or the temporary um and I love the way that it looked and when I
got them taken off my eyelashes were completely depleted which I've had such strong eyelashes my whole life
I was like so mad at myself for doing it. So this was like maybe six months ago I've started to do
rodent and field's lash boost and my.
Is this an ad for Rodin Fields?
No.
Absolutely love it.
So many of my followers recommended it to me.
And I use castorial too.
Okay.
So, like my eyelashes are so full now.
And I look like I looked when I had those extensions.
Yeah, they look like you have extensions.
No, thank you for saying that.
I'm wearing individuals.
I never do strips.
If I do it, I do individuals.
Have you ever tried Ardell 113 strips?
No.
From the drugstore, you guys.
Your eyelashes are, like, that's a strip.
It is?
Yeah.
She always wears fake, Olivia.
Yeah, they look good.
Oh, my God.
I got to learn how to put them on my.
myself. I had someone put it. It's really hard. It's so hard. Okay, so what is next for you guys with
your podcast? Like, what's the plan? Or your show. Yeah, the show. I want to call it the show. So it's
so it started as a show and turned into a podcast because so many people wanted the audience.
We're asking for it. Like a lot of people listen to it on their way to work, at work. So you want to make it easy
for them to do that. And sometimes a podcast is the best way to do it. But it's called a show if you
were to call it a morning show. Okay. Okay. So what's next? I mean, I think we're really trying to take it
on the road in the sense that like meet a lot of the brothers who live across the country.
So doing like a live show.
We took the show to LA one week and it was, we had amazing guests and it was really successful.
And also doing it on Pacific Time was just so much better.
Come to San Diego.
Okay.
Yeah.
Come to San Diego.
We're doing the show from Nashville next week.
Two weeks for CMA weeks.
So we're going to hopefully get some cool country guests.
Just kind of following wherever pop culture goes.
But also we're just like trying to grow the brand in like a slow and slow and steady wins the race.
Like we're not trying to like catch up to some surge we once had.
It's like every day is a little bit bigger and better.
So it's also just like consistency, patience, hard work pays off.
I call it rinse and repeat.
Yeah.
I don't think with these type of mediums with like shows or podcasts that you can like do that super
fast growth because then it's like you have to live up to that thing all the time.
And it's not organic.
Yeah, it's not organic.
And then you just like have a bunch of assholes that are there for the wrong reason.
I always tell them let's wait five years when we're like Joe Rogan with 900 podcasts.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Okay.
Last question.
Where should we eat and drink in New York?
This is for us selfishly.
Okay.
Right now we're like in general.
Um, in general.
Okay.
My favorite restaurant in the entire city is Gemma.
It's in the Bowery Hotel.
It's annoying because you can't make a reservation, but it's worth the wait.
It's so good and amazing lighting.
It's like darkish.
Is it good for a selfie?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's just really good.
We love bonds.
Do you guys like sushi?
Yes.
Best sushi in the city is Bond Street on Bond Street.
Okay.
And Nobu's downtown.
It's really cool.
Also, like, Tao is such a basic answer, but the food and drinks are so good.
Really?
Yes.
It's more.
Yeah.
And it's in a great area.
like cola house in meat packing.
If you just walk around meat packing and like knock on some door,
it's probably a good restaurant.
Favorite deli.
Okay, so I'm like really not into deli meats,
but my husband Ben,
like would literally eat a piece of deli meat off the floor.
He loves deli.
And he's kosher and there are so many good kosher delis in Europe.
So there's Second Avenue deli,
Pashtrami, queen.
Second Avenue deli is probably my favorite.
Michael thinks it's cats.
Is that a tourist answer?
Well, no, but the thing about cats is like you assume it's a Jewish deli that it's kosher,
but it's not kosher style.
So most people can't eat there.
You're not getting kosher.
No, but I feel like Katz's is perfect for people who like aren't Jewish, but want Jewish food.
What about a drink?
We do a lot of that.
Okay.
We do a lot of that.
We do a little strict.
If you're going to spend a lot of time there, I recommend going somewhere else.
Okay.
Where can everyone find you guys?
Pimp yourself out.
We are the morning breath on Facebook, Instagram, everywhere.
Twitter, actually, we're the morning breath because too many characters.
Okay.
Doesn't that piss you off?
Yes.
Can you write into Twitter?
We were trying to figure out what letter could we cut out.
And we're like, none.
Like, the morning breath.
Which is so stupid, like, the morning brief.
Wait, so what did you guys do on Twitter, spell it out?
The morning.
No G.
The morning breath.
Okay.
So it's more southern.
You could have done morning breath, right?
Without the, yeah.
I think it was taken.
Somebody else has that.
He's doing something.
He's doing something different.
And what are your personal Instagrams?
I'm Jackie O. Problems on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook.
And you have a beautiful Instagram feed.
Thank you.
I work really hard.
And I have to think my sisters because I'm always annoying.
Like, it's so hard to get good pictures.
And anyone who has a good feed, like, thank your family and friends.
Who takes your pictures?
Okay.
He doesn't take one picture.
He's not the kind of guy.
He doesn't follow me around with the camera.
He will take two photos and it's like the worst.
No, it's the worst.
So how do you get all those pictures?
So actually this.
I ended up flying the girl that takes my photos out in San Diego.
But not to take my pictures.
That sounds very narcissistic to actually do a vlog.
So I'm going to actually film stuff for the vlog after this for her.
She just left.
So she just followed us around and we did a vlog.
That's smart.
Normally though, I have to literally hire someone from the hotel to take photos of me
because he will not do it.
But I also don't have a lot of fashion pictures.
I'm not a fashion blogger.
Don't you think it's weird like these, I mean,
I'm going to get in trouble for this, but like the Instagram husband type, right?
Like, imagine if I walk in, I got like the long-ass camera,
some strap around my chest.
You know, that's crazy.
What's worse?
All my pictures that were taken on an iPhone.
So it's like, wherever I am, I just ask someone, like, who I know to take a quick
picture of me.
I physically cannot ask a stranger.
Like, I commend you.
It's so awkward.
It's so awkward. I would rather have no followers.
Yeah, you have to, like, tune out.
Yeah.
So I just bother them.
I'm like one or two pictures.
If I don't get the shot, it wasn't meant to be.
She's not terrible.
There are some people who are terrible.
What?
I'm not terrible either.
I'm not horrible.
I'm a little bad with the flash
taking pictures of my food,
but other than that,
I don't ask you.
I wouldn't mind taking her pictures once in a while.
Yeah, you would.
You hate it.
Because I feel like there's not,
I do the same thing 65 times.
Exactly as she tells me.
Did I take 100 more?
And then she goes,
every single one of these wrong.
I'm like,
did you look at all 65?
Well, I'm lazy eye in one.
One's blurry.
Like, there's pizza grease on the phone.
Like, he just doesn't put any on it.
So now she like literally has to take it and I have to stand there.
So then I see exactly and then I have to recreate it.
That's really smart.
funny. I mean, my really good friend is Danielle Bernstein, and she is like a hardcore high fashion
blogger. And she has like a whole team of people who do her pictures for her. But if we go away for the
weekend or something and we're like with a bunch of friends, like literally when she wipes her phone
out, everyone runs away. And she's like, you guys, will someone take a picture? I'm like, yeah, sure,
I'll take a picture. She's easy though. Like some people are really specific. Like she just needs
the shot to go. She does a really good job of doing it on the go too. Yeah, she's great. She works
really hard. But it was so funny. Like the first time I hung out with her and her close friends, like
literally everyone darted.
We used to go to high school with a girl that's good friends with her.
What's her name?
Ashley.
Do you know her?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My old college roommate dated her.
She's a sweetie.
Yes, she is.
Okay.
Hi, Graver.
I have one more question.
What's your favorite Instagram editing app I need to know?
FaceTune.
Okay.
Me too.
This is so basic, but I use all the tools on Instagram.
Okay.
And I'm looking for a new app because I want to change like the color of my flow.
So I've actually been asking people and I haven't found anything.
I will tell you like all the good apps.
Please tell me.
You need dark room.
Dark room, okay, so you want to like pick your three colors, or four colors that you want your Instagram to be.
So like mine is gray, white, light pink and black.
That's amazing.
Okay, so I want to take the blue out.
I want to take the yellow out.
I want to take the orange out.
And in dark room, you can take out the colors that aren't flattering to the feed.
So you need dark room.
I just, it's downloading right now.
I feel like you would have snug.
Everybody's on their phones.
Snug is like you see the layout.
Snug?
Yeah, you see the layout of that.
It's a dollar worth it.
100% worth it.
I can't even with apps that aren't offering.
You've never spent, like, a dollar is, like, perfect.
So you need dark room, you know,
you can whiten the background on FaceTune.
Yeah, that I do.
I just know that.
I'm, like, a proud face tuner.
I feel like there are people who edit their pictures a lot
and, like, pretend that they look the way that they don't.
It's all about the light.
No, and it's just like, I'm very open.
I read about all the time.
Like, I love editing my pictures.
I look nothing like I do on Instagram.
I just, we live in a world where your Instagram means law,
and I want to look better.
So instead of, like, going to the gym,
I just go to FaceTune.
That's amazing.
Get snug.
I got a doubt.
Okay, so snug, dark room.
And then I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
This is game changing.
I know.
Because I use the same filter on Instagram for all my pictures just at different scale so that I have a good flow, which I do.
But I just, I want to change it up.
I recently rebranded my Instagram.
No, it's looking good.
It's looking amazing.
I changed my avatar for the first time since I downloaded an Instagram.
So what does snug do?
My Gita is so ugly.
Snug lets you lay out the pictures so you can move the pictures around if they don't look good.
Oh my god, and it moves around your Instagram.
No, not if you post.
You have to do it before.
So, like, I can post like and plan what I'm going to post.
You should have this for girl with no job too, so then you can come on.
So like this picture right here, like, okay, wait, so I would move this like this.
You can move it around.
And does it move on Instagram?
That looks good right there.
Once it's posted, it's stuck there.
No, so you plan it out.
Those are all photos you haven't posted yet.
These are photos I haven't posted right here.
So I'm planning my feed.
So I'm like, oh, that's too much white in a row.
Oh, that's too much black.
That's so smart.
But I post in real time.
That's hard.
Yeah, that's hard.
You always post in real time?
Yeah.
I shouldn't have spent that dollar.
Unless it's a sponsored post.
No, but you, the dollar's worth it, I think.
I think.
This is my question.
Wait, I forgot my question.
You know what?
Darkroom, I'm telling you, we'll change your life.
Do you suggest with Darkroom?
Let's just pretend I spent the dollar on Darkroom.
No, I just, no, I just have Dark Room.
I'll show you how to do it.
Okay, anyways.
Okay, so just really one more quick.
What's your Instagram handle for Morning Breath?
At the Morning Breath, I was not asked to share my personal info,
but I will do it even though nobody asked at Girl with No Job,
but I really want to follow me on Claude with No Job
because that's where I feel like I start up.
And what about Theo?
Pop with no job.
Okay, okay.
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Thank you.
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