The Bossticks - Amanda Jo 'The Organic Bunny' On The Rise Of Infertility, Forever Chemicals, Toxic Homes & Products, & Healthier Choices To Make

Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

Starting point is 00:00:22 This episode is for someone who wants to really inspect every area of their life. from a non-toxic aspect. I found this really interesting because I'm constantly looking to just edit my life, like I'm obsessed with it. And I love hearing from someone who's really embraced such a non-toxic organic lifestyle. Amanda Jo, you know her as the organic bunny. She's the leading voice in the world of organic and non-toxic living. And in this, we're going to talk harmful chemicals, parabins that play a major role in the beauty space. She also gives us options on what to switch. What I like about this episode is she gives us easy quick swaps. So I'll be like, what do we need to have our pets eating? And she'll tell us. She's done all the research. And she really exposes

Starting point is 00:01:17 the industry and all the hidden toxics that are in our everyday products. I geeked out with her on this episode. I also went to her site and bought so many. products. Like I can't even tell you I got some shampoo. I got my dog's products. I got them the spray for their paws that is non-toxic. And I also got some makeup and skincare. So they have really great things for pregnancy on their site too. And there's a code for you at the end that you can use on her site. I think I used my own code. Let's welcome the organic bunny Amanda to the him and her show. This is the skinny confidential him and her. Okay, Amanda, let's expose some shit.

Starting point is 00:02:00 Oh, let's do it. Yep, this is going to be an episode that's going to... Is this episode going to just stress me out the whole time? Probably. Probably. Probably everyone. Just stop listening now. I feel like you're one of the only people that will understand this. Oh, yeah. So we had to repaint our house.

Starting point is 00:02:17 Like, what is it? Like we had to get some fix-ups. Just needed a paint job. It was like just needed touch up. Yeah. Yeah. And so I, I, I, DM'd, I should have DM'd you too, I DM'd Ryan from Test My Home, and I was like, send me

Starting point is 00:02:31 which paints are acceptable because paint is fucking disgusting. And if you're pregnant and you have a two-year-old and a five-year-old, like, I just didn't want to be crazy. So he sent me the four acceptable brands, which I think would pass the organic bunny test. Probably. And I sent it to the person painting my house. And so yesterday I'm like at my house, they're painting, which I don't know why you booked it. It was a touch-up job, like in one bathroom after the car. corner. So then I looked at the paint and it wasn't on the list. I can't. What would you do? Burn the house.

Starting point is 00:03:05 Burned the house. See, my reaction was tame compared to her. Please don't burn the house down. No, I can't say. You would freak out, right? Oh, yeah. We're in an app. Like, if you even heard my life, you would just, your life would be a breeze. I am going to hear your life right now. We're going to do it. The renovation project we're in is like three years. We don't have a whole front of the house because of the stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:03:26 every step of the way. You're just like micromanaging adult babies that don't care. Well, it's not even a, it's the pushback of people just being like, it's not a big deal. Yeah, exactly. And you're like, but it is to me. Yeah. Yeah. No. What's the renovation process with you guys like? That is scary to try to build a home for you guys. I would be scary. Well, we're not building home. We, you know, we are from San Diego. Okay. We do dog rescue in China, so I knew COVID was going to be bad. We knew how bad it was. It was shutting everything down. I'm like, they're talking about, like, vaccinating everyone, locking things down.

Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm like, we got to go somewhere where we can just be left alone. So we literally found a house on the internet, bought it, and moved to Washington. We'd never been there. I don't like Washington. I really don't want to live in Washington. But it was a huge house. We have six dogs. So it was a couple acres.

Starting point is 00:04:17 Leave us alone. We just kind of went and just in our own bubble until COVID was over. And you're still there? Yes. But you're renovating a house. Well, now we're trying. trap there because the house we bought was from this guy who built it himself. And apparently in Washington, that's legal to do. So if you wanted to just build a house, you can just go build a house,

Starting point is 00:04:36 literally with Go to Home Depot and buy supplies and build a house. So it's completely different than California. So we've learned painful lessons. So yeah, I have Lyme disease. Well, California, you can't build anything until by the time you get permitted, you'll take, it'll be five. You have Lyme's disease. Yes. So I have Lyme disease. So everything had to be even more extreme because mold makes me even more sick. So, yeah, the whole outside of the house had to be demoed off because the stucco, who builds a house in Washington was stucco, first of all. Like, that's so dumb.

Starting point is 00:05:06 Why? I don't know about it. I don't know anything about that. Well, stucco is like porous. It's just thin stucco. So apparently, you're not supposed to use that material. Okay. Okay. Great. Demo off the whole side of the house.

Starting point is 00:05:16 I'm trying to think of a short version and not waste everyone's earballs. Demo the whole house. Contractor's a nightmare, same thing as you. It just doesn't care. Almost ran our dogs over. three, you know, three different times, driving while they're outside, wrong materials, put in the wrong windows, I mean, literally anything you could think of that what wrong has. So we're in a complete stop because we're in a dispute with them.

Starting point is 00:05:36 This is what happens. He was saying he wants to build a house. You've got to, it's a lot of work. Oh, you'll be at least five years. Well, we're in Texas. Yeah. I mean, if you can find a contractor you trust, maybe, but I don't know. Listen, I lived, I came from California.

Starting point is 00:05:50 We actually built a medical building one time in Escondido. How long did it take? It took five years for the fucking permit. Exactly. And the tenant was the partner. Yeah. I had led that project. And I just like, I mean, that was the last, I mean, not to shit all over California all the time, but I was like, why, like, who the hell gets anything done over here?

Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah, no. I think in Texas you can apply for permits in 30 days. And if 30 days they haven't gotten back to, you can start building. After everything with your background. Yeah. Amanda, which we're going to get into. Yeah. What has been the most shocking thing that you have discovered that blew your mind?

Starting point is 00:06:22 I think how bad bow top. really is. So I don't know if most people know it, but it's the most toxic substance on Earth. So that's just kind of crazy that over the years we've been conditioned to think it's okay. They actually, I don't know if you know, but when they first discovered, what is it, botulinum, main ingredient of Botox that's so toxic, they actually used it for war. So I don't know if you knew that. So it kills. So they just in aerosol form, just, well, they never actually used it, but they were studying to use it. So, There is conflicting reports. Some say they did start using it.

Starting point is 00:06:57 To injure or to kill? To kill. And so you inhale it and it paralyzes your lungs. You can't breathe. You die. And people, women are dying. Women and men are dying from it literally stopping their breathing. So I think just, I knew Botox was bad. I'm 41. You know, you're starting to age and you want to get those things, you know. And then I just, with my Lyme disease, especially when you're immune compromise, you really, it's like kind of hard know. So I had to accept that I wasn't getting it and kind of make peace with it. But then you find out things like that. And you're just like, wow, I had no idea.

Starting point is 00:07:30 It was used for a war. And even if you go to the CDC website right now, it's a category A, bioterrorism risk or something insane. When you decide to be a bloodhound and investigate something, how does that work? It's really just curiosity. It's not that I'm like afraid of the ingredients. I feel like I'm kind of similar to you. like, I just want to know the truth, and then I'm going to decide, you know, is this worth it or not? Because I do plenty of things that aren't good for me, you know.

Starting point is 00:07:58 So it's really just a curiosity. I want to know what it is. I want to know the truth. I want to know both sides. This is the bad. This is the good. And I'll make my decision. So it's really just a strong curiosity.

Starting point is 00:08:08 And I feel like we never get the truth of anything. So I really just always am like looking for the truth. When did you realize you could build a brand around looking into these toxins and chemicals and ingredients and products? When I first started, it was, honestly just, again, I wanted to share information. I've been like a true teller since I was a kid. I got kicked out of Girl Scouts for telling some girl that her mom was a smoker. So I've always just been like, oh, do you know this? It was just a big loud mouth just telling everyone the truth. So I've always, it's always just been my personality. So I started the Organic Bunny page because

Starting point is 00:08:41 I was learning about organic food and like how organic had a number on a sticker at the grocery store and like the other ones weren't organic. And I was like, what do you mean? mean. So I just felt like I had to just share the truth. And I went through a period of where I would literally go to everyone's page and be like, do you know, but that? And then I was like, hey, that doesn't work. These people don't care. They don't want to hear from me. So I was like, I'm going to start sharing my tips on my own page and people that want them can have them. And so yeah, it really just started as I was working for a footwear company at the time. So I was doing marketing for a footwear company in San Diego, doing that on the side. And it was really just, I had no clue that it was going to

Starting point is 00:09:18 become a business at all. What are some products that you think our audience would think are healthy that are just not? God, I was looking at Sephora Clean just to kind of prep for this because I just hired a new photographer and she was telling me her favorite product is the pharmacy brand. That's a convenient name too because it's spelled F-A-R-M. Yeah. No, like literally go to the Sephora website and it's, first of all, it's under Clean. So automatically the consumer thinks this product is good for me. But if you look at the way they advertise, it's so alarming. There's green leaves everywhere, papaya, the name pharmacy. The product's name is, what was it, like clean green bomb? Clean, green cleansing bomb. So there again, they're training your brain that this is a clean, green, natural

Starting point is 00:10:06 cleansing bomb. Okay, then you go down, and if you literally go to the Sephora website right now, you'll see it, and it goes 100%. And it was like the dumbest fact ever. It was like 100% no poor. clog or like something, but that's to trick your brain to thinking it's 100% natural when they flash the 100%. So yeah, I looked at the ingredients. It was like plastic, all this petroleum. So it's, I mean, I hate to see everything, but it's literally really bad. And that's why I created my business just to people can come and they know that I'm not letting it through the doors. And if I do, I will tell them like, you know, the nail polish I carry. It's not clean. It's cleaner. And I'm very transparent about that. And I think people appreciate that because then you can decide.

Starting point is 00:10:52 So you just want to be able to give people the information so they can make the decision in an informed way. Yes. I think that's like the biggest thing. You know, I've been outspoken about being excited about Bobby Kennedy coming in because I think it's one of the first times people are starting to really like pay attention to health and ingredients and what we ingest and what's in our food and all sorts of. We're not going to go down around at all. But, you know, I think like the frustration and even doing this show and talking to people like yourself, when we get, a ton of information and even we're still confused all the time. So I imagine if somebody's not informed and they're just walking up and down the stores or they're going on a website, like,

Starting point is 00:11:26 how are you supposed to know? There is no way. And I feel like I've always thought like, do I make like a little course for how to learn ingredients? Like no, no one has time for that. No one wants to do that. No one wants to look up what a, what's Demethico? What is the risk? It's so exhausting. And then you have sites that are trying to do better for you and you still can't trust those either. So like, what about the EWG? I was just going to say the EWG. scores last time I checked polyethylene which is plastic they scored a one I don't want plastic in anything so I don't agree with that score so the consumer should be a zero no it should be higher sorry they they score I mean not a 10 I'd have to like

Starting point is 00:12:01 really you know but you think it should be so you feel like the score is not as severe as it should be in that case no and the problem with those sites is it is a business and I I don't I don't want to like trash the EWG because they're still doing good to work but it is a business so if you have a brand you can pay for your brand to be assessed by them. And say you contain titanium dioxide, but another brand hasn't been reviewed, they get a worse score.

Starting point is 00:12:25 So you can kind of pay to provide your source. And so now the customer sees, it's just very confusing. And like, I don't know how anyone has time for that. So I do it for you. What's the truth about perfume and cologne? Oh.

Starting point is 00:12:39 Let it rip. Well, I mean, you know, I feel like you guys have talked about it a little bit on the show, but it's a hormone disruptor. So it's also, if you want to know the number one most toxic ingredient in your home for your pets, is fragrance. And what's bad is our dog's noses are 10,000 to up to 100,000 times more sensitive. So you're poor, and you have little tiny dogs and, you know, they're sniffing these,

Starting point is 00:13:04 even if you have like a hair gel or something with fragrance, or maybe you just took a shower with a body wash that has fragrance. Well, now the room is full of fragrance. So fragrance is probably the worst ingredient, I think, because it's everywhere. We're just living in a cloud of fragrance. So if people can do one thing, it's just, it's hard because it's like every product. I find it insulting when you can smell someone from across the room. It's almost like you're in my space. Do you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:13:31 Like, it feels invasive. It's, it's, I don't need to smell you from across the room. It's too much. I just got a new shirt the other day and, you know, they spray the clothing with perfume too, right? Do you ever buy something and you smell it? And it's just like, it was just from Revolve. It was like a little lacy top. It just reeked like perfume.

Starting point is 00:13:50 And I used to think someone tried it on and returned it. But no, what they do is they have to spray the clothing with all these insecticides and herbicide or whatever. All this material to like cover the formaldehyde type of stuff to preserve them when they ship it. So they'll stink. So to cover the stink, they cover it in perfumes and fragrances. So what do you do when that happens? You send it back? I went on the chat and I was like, if I wash this and it doesn't come out, like can I just return?

Starting point is 00:14:16 And they were like, sure, it didn't come out, but I'm probably too lazy to return it. Is there a perfume or a fragrance that you like that is approved by organic bunny? Yeah, I brought you some samples today. Which is what? There's a couple brands. So in my story, only allow 100% natural. So there's problems with even clean perfume brands because they still use synthetics, but that doesn't mean, even when they say it's a clean synthetic, that's not always the case.

Starting point is 00:14:40 So I only allow 100% natural. So then you know, it's the entire formula is natural. So Hair tick is a brand, but their whole line's not natural. So I go through and I pick. Yeah, this is why I like her, this is why I like her page. It's like she's not going to be like your brand is great if there's not specific things. So it's called the perfume you like is called heretic. The brand is called heretic, yes, but only their natural ones. And what does it smell like?

Starting point is 00:15:04 I brought you guys some. Okay, and he can wear it too? Yep. Okay, because it's funny when you cut it out, you're really sensitive. Oh, yeah. And why does that happen? I don't know. I mean, just like you said, you don't have it in your system and then you have it.

Starting point is 00:15:17 It's even the shirt, I like, went to him and I was like, He was like, you're like a bloodhound. It turns you into like a bloodhound. You're like, I'm like, what's that? What it is is I think like, so we had our friend Cherveen who, I don't know if you're familiar with him. So he ran symbiotica with his partners. And he said something on the show years ago that just like opened my eyes.

Starting point is 00:15:35 Like, you know, if your body is giving off a poor scent, it's your body signaling to you that something is going on that shouldn't be going on in your body. And what we do is we mask those sense and ignore those signals. We do the same thing in the house. And our bodies are really good at getting. used to ignoring signals like bad sense. If you have bad breath, there's a reason. If you have bad B.O., there's a reason.

Starting point is 00:15:56 Not to put anybody on the spot. But I think, like, if you're living in a clean way and you're eating the right foods and right ingredients, like a lot of that stuff just goes away. Like, I haven't worn deodorant in probably 10 years. I feel like one of you said you don't wear deodorant. No, I never, like 10 years. Maybe both of you.

Starting point is 00:16:10 Both of us don't work. I sometimes like, I like Agent Nator's deodorant sometimes. And listen, if I go crazy and I'm like doing something like where I'm sweating a ton or I'm not sure. I don't mind it. I've never minded your mind. But the point is, is like, I don't have, because I live in a clean way, like, that's not a huge issue for me. And I think, like, if you're needing a lot of that all the time, it's likely because your body's trying to signal, like, hey, maybe you need to make a change. But we do need to have an intervention on him.

Starting point is 00:16:33 What is he? I brought him hair paste. Oh, good. Fuck. Thank you. This guy, the only toxic thing in my house is underneath his cabinet. It is 20 bottles of this hair paste. And then he has the work.

Starting point is 00:16:49 worst hair spray ever on the planet and he sprays it like this a porcupine in my bathroom it's going everywhere i've literally watched people show up with a paint gun that i would use on an automobile to give you a spray tan okay i don't want to hear outside i have an organic formula for you what kind of makeup are you wearing yeah well the makeup we need i'm not saying i'm perfect no no we can we're just talking about you right now i have to have a couple Listen, this hair is wild. It's a main to team. What's the hair paste you brought him?

Starting point is 00:17:22 If you got good hair paste, I'll try. Have you heard of Jack Henry? No. Is it like a clay kind of thing? Is it like on a black top of the orange? No, that's volcano. I use a super clean product for our son's hair. But not for yours.

Starting point is 00:17:35 And then he gets in bed. I don't know if you'll like it. He gets in bed, Amanda. He doesn't take a shower. The other day I go, are you going to take a shower? Do you know what I started doing? In the morning, I wake up, take the pillowcases off and wash them and put him back on. Wow.

Starting point is 00:17:48 I've literally seen you. lay in our sheets with the spray tan and it looks like somebody sprayed caramel all over the sheets. Don't, I will call you out. We can't all be perfect. I will call you out. You look like you went through a paint booth in a fucking, you know, in a sedan. Amanda's going to give me a new new attitude. Somebody shows up with a giant tent and they're like, you know. Yeah, yeah. I know. I used to work for a spray tan company, so I inhaled all that. They go, oh, it's the clean one. I'm like, I don't think that's clean. It smells. It's probably not. They all lie. So what, tell us about the hair paste. It's moving on pretty quick now. Oh. Well, we can bust it out. I don't know if

Starting point is 00:18:19 you're going to like it. Let's see it. Listen, if it works, I will switch. Because Kyle doesn't have any hair. He's been bald for about 10 years now. I was going to say, I was going to ask your husband, but. He's so jealous of your hair. Oh my God. Oh, yeah. Even he talks about your hair.

Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah, but listen, man, you've got a good bald head. Yeah, you do got a good bald head. Like, you can pull it off. If I did that, oh, I would look like up. If he was bald, I'd be like, ooh. I got a small head. I think my mom trying to squeeze me through the both can now. He has no choice. That's just his bald head. No, but you got a good bald head.

Starting point is 00:18:47 Some guys can rock it. about paste though. No. No. Okay, this is the paste. Give it to them. Okay, let me see. It's called hair clay.

Starting point is 00:18:56 Jack Henry. Oh, somebody mentioned, did maybe Allison mention this to me. From Branch Basics, maybe. Oh, maybe, yeah. This is great ingredients. Yes. I mean, maybe very, very clean. See, though, like, I need like a, like, I'll try this, but I need like a paste, you know,

Starting point is 00:19:08 because this is like. It's a paste. This is like a clay. Well, they also make a paste. That one is a heavier one, so I picked that one for more hold. I think you need to say thank you and switch it up. Thank you very much. I will try this and I'll look into the brand and if you like it. Listen, if it works, I'll make the switch tomorrow. I just haven't found anything that's worth.

Starting point is 00:19:23 Try it. I don't know if it will work. They also have a paste though, too. Okay, I'm going to buy the paste. It's a whole men's line. So I made it. I'm going to try it. They have it really cool. I think they have like studios in maybe Orange County. It's really cool. It's like a men's hair club. So you can go get all the pampering. So if you're ever in Orange County, check it out. Haircuts. And it's non-toxic.

Starting point is 00:19:41 Oh, yeah. They're fragrances. They're new ones. I don't carry them because those do have safe synthetics. So again, pick and choose. Their line, for the most part, is clean. In relation to beauty, hair products, things that we're using every day, like, what has been the number one or two ingredients that you've found that's common across most of these products that you're like, these are just terrible for you. Well, it's definitely the fragrance again.

Starting point is 00:20:03 I, like, thought about this because I knew you guys would ask me this. And I was like, fragrance is just such a boring answer, but it's really just in everything. Okay. Every product in your house. Like, I bet I could find, you know, I'd love to go through your bathroom. And see. And just see what's. in there. Because people, I mean, the amount of lies, I have people emailing me, some girl was on a cruise.

Starting point is 00:20:24 A lie. People, she was on a cruise and she's like, I'm about to get a facial and they told me, what is it? Elimus is all organic. Now, I had to ask you if it. Like literally, she's on her cruise asking me like we're best friends, which I don't mind. I love that. But it's just funny because people lie. The lady told them it's all organic. Literally not one organic ingredient in it. So yeah, I don't know how anyone gets through life knowing what's clean or not because they're trained with lies. Then no one knows what's going on. Here's a question I've always had. If I have had, if I have, a cabinet like Michael's hair paste cabinet and it's sitting there listen here's the deal we're going to make on the show you can go through my hair paste but I'm going to call you out on your cabinets and in your drawers and all your that's what I'm going to ask

Starting point is 00:21:05 do all the beauty stuff. Is it off gassing? I don't know I don't think so because it's contained to a bottle. Okay. I always wonder that. It depends if it's like an open candle then yeah but if it's contained in a jar I don't think it will you will

Starting point is 00:21:21 the packaging could off gas. If you're sensitive and you open the cabinet though, you will be able to detect it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, the fragrance. What if you're sensitive and everything is just piled up in your sink like you ladies like to do? I like to pile things in my sink. Really?

Starting point is 00:21:36 I'm a sink piler. Yeah. What do you mean? Like I don't want it on my vanity and if I don't have time, I throw it in the sink. Oh, well. I'll show everyone a picture. I like to mess everything up and then clean it up.

Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah. I just have a mess. She's just a mess. You could have just a mess. I think you should come over to our bathroom because I I feel like I'm getting a lot of shit and I want you to see what's going on over here. I want to really dive in to pet care because I don't think people realize what's happening. My first question is, what shampoo and conditioner do you recommend for the pets?

Starting point is 00:22:07 Yes. So I only have one brand that I've ever posted that I like. And it is by Olivia. So I don't know if you know their body wash. It's, what's cool about their brand is it's all a prebiotic formula. So it's really actually good for their skin. Unlike every other shampoo on the market, birds bees, all these other ones, scouts I think is one, I don't know. They pretend they're clean, but it's just a bunch of synthetic chemicals that they mix with fragrance. And you're really not doing anything for the dog's actual microbiome. So yeah, Olivia makes one. It's called, I think it's like a prebiotic pet wash. Okay. It doesn't say by Olivia. It's in my store. I forget like the, is it just like a prebiotic pet wash? I'm like talking to my husband on it. No, though. I'm going to

Starting point is 00:22:48 go look at that. I'm going to go buy that. There's lavender and unscented. It's the best. So it's not to sud, it's not going to lather, so people don't like that, but you don't need it too. And it's so good for their skin and their coat just balances out if there's any like rashes or irritations. Really good for their skin, feeds their skin, and it makes their hair so soft because it's got coconut oil. And I think it's like seven all organic ingredients. So I'm buying that. Our dogs sleep with us. Yes. And we take them on walks. And I always think like, okay, we're walking over like petroleum and oil and like you mentioned off air like the lawn care can you really go off on that and explain how it's getting stuck in their paws and their nails yeah well and it's just i mean imagine

Starting point is 00:23:31 everything that's on the ground there's parasites there's mold there's bacteria there's pollen viruses again and then you know i was telling you there is now a 70% increase risk in lymphoma cancer for dogs because of these long chemicals so what's hard about pretty much everything we're talking about today is you can't see it So it's just not real to people until like something happens. And so I think it's one in two or one in three depends on who you ask. A risk of cancer in our dogs. Dogs are dying of cancer left and right.

Starting point is 00:24:02 So we have to start evaluating their environments like we're evaluating our own. And because we know their sense is so much more sensitive than ours, even more so. Like the fragrances, if you love your dog, literally get the frieze, the plug-ins out. So anyways, pause. So yeah, you take your dog on a walk. It's walking through your neighbors a lawn. And what if your neighbor is using pesticides? And you don't know.

Starting point is 00:24:26 But here's a tip on how you can look. Do their lawns have weeds? So that's a really easy way. If their lawn is like meticulous, green and manicured with no weeds, that's a high probability that they are spraying pesticides on there. City parks, golf courses, resorts. If you go to a nice resort, that is covered in pesticides. So you're going to use something like the hypochloric acid paw cleanser from organic money for pets.

Starting point is 00:24:54 And then what's cool about that is it actually breaks down the pesticides to remove it off. So when I spray it on my dog's paws, which I'm spraying every night before they get into bed, do I wipe it off or do I just leave it? Nope. So I just spray it on their paws. Yep. I think it says like just spray and go. What about their nose? Can I spray it on their nose?

Starting point is 00:25:13 In like what way? I don't know. Their nose is like in the poo. It's smelling the poo. It's smelling the pee. I don't know. It's up each other. asshole like you know what I mean it's a lot with the nose I'd have to ask since the nose is so like

Starting point is 00:25:25 porous and I don't know but I mean it's a paw because I spray the hypochloric acid in my mouth sometimes yeah yeah yeah I've done that I bet you can yeah you can there's different parts per million per billion and all that stuff so there are different I don't we go fully down the rabbit hole though I have a hundred rabbit hole question sorry guys for somebody who is finally becoming interested in this topic like for us it was like a slow like we got you know for It was the cleaning supplies, and then it was the cooking supply. And now it's like the whole house is clean. But again, it's been years of us going down.

Starting point is 00:25:56 No, I still have work to do. And the way I always explain it to people, once you become informed and you realize there's healthier, cleaner alternatives, like, why would you, once you have the information, it's actually an easy decision to make. But for somebody who's just starting to explore this and they're starting to be like, huh, I'm going to look at some labels. Like, what are the big things that are red flags on labels that they should look for? Outside of, you know, we've talked about fragrance.

Starting point is 00:26:17 What else? Well, everyone knows parabins. So brands know we don't like parabens. So now they're moving to phenoxyethanol. So phenoxy ethanol is a big one. It's not as bad as parabens, but similar type of ingredient and preservative with risks. It does have some links to cancer because of an ingredient that it's made with. It leaves behind traces of carcinogens.

Starting point is 00:26:39 So definitely paraben's phenoxy ethanol. So if I would go to Sephora and I want to tell you guys, if you want to pick up a product and you want to just know right away if it's clean or not, makeup, you can look for synthetic dyes. So it's going to say like red Lake 7 or whatever the number. I only allow mineral pigments in my store and ion oxides. So like actual colors from nature. So you can look for synthetic dyes. So we'll say like red in a color, which is pretty much all of Sephora.

Starting point is 00:27:06 I need to go through Sephora's whole website and see if there's any that aren't. But even the brands like Ilya, Tarts, they're all using synthetic dyes. Those have links to heavy metals. They're made from petroleum, black coal to. are just nasty. So I won't use any synthetic dye. So that's an easy one to look for the phenoxy ethanol. Fragrance is a big one. And even though I've talked about it so much, if you pick up a product and you see fragrance and there's no star noting natural, like it should say star 100% natural or from natural sources. If it just says fragrance or perfume, no. Put it down and just because

Starting point is 00:27:42 you know, what else? So those are the biggest ones. BHT is in Summer Friday's lip-balt. It's just another not good one. So, yeah, I'd say like... What's BHT? It's just another preservative with links to disrupting the endocrine system. They're kind of all the same. They're just not good chemicals.

Starting point is 00:28:01 So, yeah, I would look for BHT, paraben, fragrance, dyes. Let's discuss bad breath. Smartmouth. Smart mouth is the only mouthwash, scientifically proven to eliminate and prevent bad breath for 24 hours with just two rinses a day.

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Starting point is 00:33:00 Go to H-I-Y-A-H-E-A-L-T-H-H-C-com slash skinny and get your kids the full-body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults. So you don't like anything if it's not fully natural from... No, I'll use some things that are synthetic. You have to have preservatives. But it just won't get a, it won't get like a clean, a full clean bill of health from you unless it's fully clean. I'm just trying to understand.

Starting point is 00:33:29 I'm not... You mean fully natural? Yeah. No, I use things that are synthetic all the time. But what will make it onto your store and say, like what, like, I guess what I'm asking is What are the, like, what are the things that... What's the funnel? Yeah, what's the funnel where it's like, nope, can't make it, sorry.

Starting point is 00:33:43 Well, yeah, synthetic fragrance, synthetic dyes, preservative systems that I don't like, harsh preservatives, the phoenixanthinol, paribans, the BHG, polysorpates, P.EGs, anything petroleum-derived, plastics, polyethylene's a big one to look for, too. Like I said, it's in the pharmacy cleansing bomb. It just doesn't need to have plastic in it. So do brands reach out to you? And I'm just like walking through this with you because we're just meeting. And say like, well, we're like 95% and because of that we should be included.

Starting point is 00:34:16 Or is it like do they not even bother at this point? I feel like you're the curator. Yeah. I mean, they try. Honestly, like I don't do sponsored posts. I don't really like I barely read my emails. So it's mostly me just like, oh, someone posted that they like this is that clean. Oh, it is clean.

Starting point is 00:34:32 So I'll add it. Is it Wu in your store? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Woo's in the store. Wu, the lube made it in your store. There's only four ingredients.

Starting point is 00:34:40 I've had three babies off that loom. That lube, you can eat it, lick it, suck it, fuck it. Really. Giles in the corner like, yeah, it's great. No, but, okay, so I'm just trying to understand the funnel. And so when you're curating your store, is it just like, you know, you just... I go through each label, and it depends. There's no...

Starting point is 00:35:00 There's no bias. It's just kind of like... That's what's cool. It's like she can be a gauge. And sometimes I'll make little exceptions. you know, if it's like a glycol, like that's not my favorite ingredient, but if that's the only bad thing in it is better than the alternative. So, you know, I carry cleaner gel polish. Nothing about that's clean or natural. It's just cleaner. I brought you a red. I heard that a lot

Starting point is 00:35:21 of gel polish gives you rashes with halmum. What's it called? I don't know what that is. Something with an H. But it sounds like there's some products that require some of these in order to be a product or I'll say like they just wouldn't exist. Yes, exactly. Neal polish is one of them. Dry shampoo is really hard because the aerosols in them are, you know, gas, flammable gas that we spray all around us. Anything aerosol. So your hairspray, I haven't found one that's clean. I don't have hairspray right now. Lauren just makes it up. I once rented a house for a month and I went in the house and I went, oh yeah. What's that smell? No. And in every single outlet in the entire house was a glade plug-in. What? I, Michael, like, I, I,

Starting point is 00:36:05 I was like... I had to have a giant trash bag. I kept finding more. I would probably leave, honestly. I would, I'd be like air filters. By the way, your air filter was not on in the lobby. Carson, you're fired. You're just the last straw with you, man.

Starting point is 00:36:22 Good tip. Tell us about plugins. I mean, it's just pure fragrance. It's just like the nastiest thing on the earth. It's just so gross. It's the worst thing you can do. Why? People need to know why.

Starting point is 00:36:32 Well, it's a hormone disruptor. You're inhaling the thallates. So to stick, like you know that it just sticks. Like even just having that shirt walking down my hallway to the washing machine, Kyle, like, I sniffed your trail because the thallates in it are just sticking everywhere. And then you inhale those. They go in the body and they're toxic to the body. They disrupt everything. They cause havoc.

Starting point is 00:36:52 They disrupt your hormones. You know, they can cause migraines. It's just a disruptor to the body. Do you think that women are not getting pregnant because of these things? Absolutely. Infertility has links to all of these things. things. I mean, we can get into babies also if you want to, but infertility is absolutely linked to the PFS, so I'm sure you guys have, you guys have talked about that. So all these water-resistant

Starting point is 00:37:15 products definitely linked to infertility. Anything that's an endocrine-disrupting chemical is going to have links to infertility. So that's all of the parabens, the plastics, the candles. Well, the fragrance in the candles. What's interesting, I mean, listen, I was, somebody wrote an article about, about Lauren and I on this show one time. And like, different things get written all the time. And I typically don't read it.

Starting point is 00:37:39 But like one of the things called it like a woo-woo wellness. And I'm woo-woo. And you know what? I was saying that for the longest time in this country, what people have done is they get sick or they have infertility issues or they have hormone issues or they have whatever issues they're having. And they say, I have this issue.

Starting point is 00:37:57 Now I need to correct it by doing all of these other things. A lot of the times, not great things, which we don't have to get into. But it's been rare for people to pause and be like, what am I eating? Why? What are my products? What am I drinking? What am I cleaning with?

Starting point is 00:38:11 Like what am I? And I think what I'm excited about and why I've been vocal is like finally people are saying like, oh, wait a minute. Actually all of these ingredients and these foods and in some cases, maybe medicines and vaccines should be looked at because it's not normal that we should have all of these conditions in the human experience that aren't natural. Right. Like we shouldn't be faced with all of these issues that our ancestors weren't faced with.

Starting point is 00:38:33 And I think finally people are starting to say, like, wait, there is a cause and effect. It's not just like effect and then now we're living this way. You know what I mean? I don't think people really believe it until they're affected because it's like, oh, I'm fine. You know, people will say all the time, oh, I, you know, I spray myself down with fragrance and I had a baby just fine. So it's like, things are fine until they're not fine. You know, eventually something will happen. And you're going to realize, like, wow, that could be linked.

Starting point is 00:38:58 And that's kind of why I got into this. Like, I had a bunch of my own health problems and found out I couldn't have. gluten. Then I looked at my products. I was like, well, can I have gluten in my products? If I, you know, so it took a health scare for me to like really assess what's going on. So I do feel like, who do you know that's really even healthy anymore? I feel like everyone has things that they're working through. So I think eventually, well, the older you get, you know, you're fine until whatever. I mean, like, to your point, the body's very resilient, you know, but you bombard it with enough things and one day you're sick and then, you know, I guess like the

Starting point is 00:39:29 thing that I've realized doing this show for as long as we've done is like, you can be healthy. if you make healthier decisions and you look at the behaviors and the decisions you're making your day-to-day life. How did you figure out that you had Limes? How did that present itself for you? I've just always had health problems. And so I just, I mean, just constant testing. So I just did a Tick panel. And yeah, I came back positive.

Starting point is 00:39:52 And I was like, oh, I kind of just block it out. I'm kind of like you or like, okay, I know I have it. But like I'm not going to put like Lyme Warrior in my bio. I'm not going to make that my identity. because it's just not helpful. So I like to be, I listen to your solo episode a couple days ago saying, you know, you only want to focus on fertility, but like part of that is removing the things that are causing infertility. So like I'm like you.

Starting point is 00:40:16 I want to know and do better, but like I'm not going to focus on that I have Lyme disease and make it my identity. So yeah, I have it. Do you know how you, like do you know where you were? No. I do think my mom gave it to me because my sister also has Lyme disease. and they say it's very rare to transfer during pregnancy, but I'm pretty convinced because my mom also has multiple sclerosis, and they do believe that that could be Lyme misdiagnosed,

Starting point is 00:40:39 which don't get me started because she just, no, she's not going to go down that hole. So my theory is that she actually has Lyme disease, because my sister also has Lyme disease, and so I have Lyme disease, so that just makes sense. I never had a tick bite. Didn't have like the bull's eye thing, so I have no idea. But maybe you did and maybe you did have it and you didn't know when you were a little. Yeah, definitely. Definitely could happen.

Starting point is 00:41:03 It's very scary. I think how you're handling it, though, is amazing. I had a friend that had HIV and he told me, he said, I never made it my identity. And he had been alive for like 30 years after they told him he was going to die. And he just never led with it. He told me like two years into our friendship too. And he said the problem is, is when you get diagnosed with something and you automatically start identifying it, it comes out through your body. Kyle doesn't even know I have Lyme disease. He like forgets. I'm like, can you not stress me out? I have Lyme disease. Like, I don't need added stress. So like, I do so much, you would never even know that I have it, which is probably not good because stress is not good for it. But you've channeled it

Starting point is 00:41:53 into something, though, so positive too. I think that that's important as well. I would like to discuss babies. Formulas, wipes. I got triclosin in my blood from using a huge, huge wipe brand because it's filled with triclosin. Talk to us about all the baby stuff. Wipes, I have not found a single baby wipes. I don't carry a baby wipe. Everyone that I've talked to, because I don't have kids, so I don't like go deep into baby stuff.

Starting point is 00:42:20 But everyone says the only clean, truly clean option would just be like an organic cloth and literally water. So you could probably use the hypochlorous acid on an organic, like, muslin cloth. But yeah, wipes, I don't have a good one for you. I'm sure there's better. I'm sure there's better. So I can look into better. Formula, I mean, again, I haven't gone down the formula. Rabbit Hole breastfeed is obviously the gold standard healthy diet from mom.

Starting point is 00:42:47 What's actually really crazy is all the studies that show the phallates and the PFS in newborn babies have i wg did that study on babies did you guys see that one i know what you're talking about yeah they tested like a bunch of babies and 100 percent of the babies had pfas in their umbellical chloride but why from the mom but what products are just a million products but give us a couple so pfas is the the cookware the non-stick cookware the coffee cups i've heard you guys talk about the plastic inside the coffee cup to make it not you know decompose when it meets hot water those are all PIFAs, your longwear foundation, your long wear, your waterproof mascara, any water repellent. So if you see, I always see on Instagram and he's like, stain resistant dog beds, no.

Starting point is 00:43:32 That's just like Pha bomb. Children's raincoats repel water, anything that repels water. And there was a big scandal around, I mean, you heard the scandal around the workout clothing, what was it, Lulu Lemon leggings. Like it's getting in our vagina? Yeah, because they're covered in PIFAS. And Phafas are really scary because, well, I don't want to say scary to scare people, but they're called forever chemicals because they stay in you potentially forever. Versus thalates, which is from perfumes, you can't excrete those in urine. So like Pfeas is the real nasty one.

Starting point is 00:44:05 So what leggings do you wear? Because fuck, Lulu Lemon leggings are real good. I know. What do you wear? Organic brands pack makes an organic. I just ordered their underwear. Yeah. Oh, that's my favorite one.

Starting point is 00:44:15 That's approved by you? Yep. Do they hold you in? Because I got a lot to hold in right now. The underwear? No, the leggings. Like, giant poop. Michael hasn't seen underwear on me for 10 years.

Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah, they actually do. I'm not a big underwear wear. They're really actually. Well, depending on which ones you got. Okay, maybe they have maternity. I'm going to get those pack leggings because I love Lulu Lemon. Yeah. Align leggings.

Starting point is 00:44:37 I like the pack even better. You do? Yeah. Because it's just like, I don't know, I feel like Lulu Lemmer are so aggressive. I don't know. Pack is, it's like a softer, but still holds you in. So I don't know. I think you'll like him.

Starting point is 00:44:49 Speaking of the. the vagina. I'm actually releasing this episode in line with something I'm launching for Skinny Confidential and I can't wait to hear your opinion. So we're launching non-toxic tolla paper. Wow. I'm so passionate about this. I literally wanted to do that. That's crazy. I have like a website. I'm going to send you as much as you have a lifetime supply. Yeah. That's so exciting. And I'm so excited because people do not understand what's in toilet paper. We travel with it. You do? Oh yeah. Stop. Pull it out. I don't buy it. Yep. Stop. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:23 My whole bag is full of like Mary Poppins organic. You do not travel. That's a first of, so I've never seen someone bring toilet paper to the studio. I like the commitment. I'm in debt. It's disgusting once you realize. Oh my God, you guys, it's so cool.

Starting point is 00:45:35 Well, airports, yeah, I mean. Yeah, I mean, but anything. Tell us about tolla paper because you're the expert to ask this about and we are wiping our asshole and our, you aren't wiping anything. We're peas. We're wiping our vaginas with so.

Starting point is 00:45:50 much toxicity. Yeah. Honestly, the toilet paper was like a recent one for me. I didn't even think of it because we were using just bamboo, like healthier. And then I was white and I was like, how is it white? Oh my God, we've been using bleached toilet paper this whole freaking time. So yeah, I mean, even stuff like that, I'll just like, it just won't even crest your mind because it's just toilet paper. You just think that's, you just live life. That's toilet paper. But yeah, we got, so I think it's plant paper and they test for even heavy metals and all that stuff. So hopefully you guys do that too. That's pretty cool. I'm going to send you a bunch of toilet paper and you guys will have toilet paper for life. That's awesome.

Starting point is 00:46:26 I'm really excited about it because it's something that like it's a daily habit that we all do and there are endocrine disruptors and so many of them. And if you think about it, you're wiping every single day all day long. It's interesting like, you know, a few years, I think about myself in this journey and I'm like in the beginning you're like you're resistant. You think about yourself in this journey. It's amazing. Because I know like how a lot of people. are to this because I was one of them. Like you're resistant to this stuff in the beginning because you're like, what's the big deal? I feel fine. I don't get it. But for me, it's like, okay, if there's a

Starting point is 00:47:00 healthier cleaning alternative that does the exact same thing and it serves the same function, if there's a healthier toilet paper, if there's a healthier beauty, if there, listen, if this hair, if this clay or paste works like, yeah, for me, it's like, you know, why would you not make that choice? Because people are going to say price. Okay, fine, price. But, like, you're not going to care about the price if you're laying sick somewhere later. You know what I mean? Like, for me, or, you know, like, maybe go and cut out a night out at the bar, which we don't even have to get into it. But you could branch basics is just as the same price as Windex.

Starting point is 00:47:34 Yeah. So this is where I'm like, anyways, the point is. It depends on the item. I'm not going to try to convince the people that are like, I'd rather be sick than, like, pay a couple. Like, those people are going to be. Well, it's interesting you talk about dogs and we know someone that, like, three of their, maybe five of their dogs have gotten cancer. are you. And they use heavy pesticides. A lot of the same people that say, oh, I don't want to spend the money on the cleaning supply are

Starting point is 00:47:56 also like completely fine to go and blow a paycheck in the bar out on a Saturday night. Right? No, no judgment. But I'm just saying like if you want to use the argument. Priorities. Yeah, priorities. But the point is, I think for for me and why I get excited about these topics on this show is I was one of those people that was resistant. But now I'm like, okay, logically, if there's just better alternatives that serve the same purpose, why would I not make that switch? Like I'd have to kind of actually be a dumb person to not do that. Are you ready? This is why.

Starting point is 00:48:25 You have nostalgia around the smell of fabulosa and there's this nostalgia. But do you really miss the like synthetic index? I was saying I don't have that nostalgia. No, people have a connection to these smells because they've been ingrained in us and people there's almost an addiction. What they do to the, they do, they do, they chemically do that. Like they do that's what they do. Like the synthetics didn't connect to your endocrine system.

Starting point is 00:48:50 And they make, yeah, you're like connected to it. So, yeah, it makes it harder to quit. And that's what they want. Yeah, exactly. Baby products, any specific brands that you're a fan of. Yeah, and I do carry some baby products. So if you do silicone, you're going to want to make sure it's like a medical grade silicone. So that's really important.

Starting point is 00:49:07 Silicon 4? It's like a baby toy. Like if they have like rubber toys or chewing on like the little things. No plastic, obviously. That's just loaded with phthalates that they chew on, suck on, rub all over. I think it's really important that moms know they shouldn't wear a perfume even with a baby. I think a lot of women think, oh, you know, I'm done being pregnant. Now I can put it all on. But you're breastfeeding, your baby's on you. They're may be on your shoulder.

Starting point is 00:49:31 They're inhaling your laundry detergent. They're sucking on your, you know, fragrance, drenched, non-organic clothing. So definitely everything should be extra sensitive for babies. So toys, no plastic, wood toys without paints and lacquers. We have some natural rubber, like bath toys. So natural, materials as much as you can, organic. We have some really cute little stuffies that are made out of organic material. I love that. I'm going to go get all that. That's perfect for minority. What are those little things? I'm so like baby illiterate. Like I'm just like what are those things they use the little things they suck on? But again, like I think like it's like a blankie. To like to like a like a lovey. Yeah, lovey. I know. To give a little pushback and to give, I know a lot of the parents are like

Starting point is 00:50:15 screaming. It's like, you know, there's certain toys. But my whole thing is, if you get rid of the big things, if you get rid of the fragrances and the hormone disruptors and the bad cleaning supplies and the foods that we all know with a million preserves we shouldn't be. Like if you take care of like the 90% then maybe once in a while it's okay for a kid to play with a magnetel. But the point is if you're doing all the other things all the time and it's like, it's like, to your point, like you're going to use a certain nail polish. Like if my kid ends up coloring with a certain thing one time or playing with a magnetel, it's like, okay, it's, you know, there's maybe some harmful things in there. But I feel good knowing that like the other 90% the big things are out of the picture. The biggest thing is honestly the mom and even the dad, the choices you guys make while you're trying to conceive and actually pregnant are so important because they're directly impacting how your baby develops. So even something like fragrance that can disrupt your son's hormones, even though he's not even born yet. So it can decrease your son's sperm before it leaves your body. Like, that's insane.

Starting point is 00:51:21 It can also contribute to a smaller body part in boys. A smaller penis. Yes, literally. If you use these endocrine disruptors, you are making your baby's penis small. Yep. And you're even affecting the females' egg supply. So it decreases the quality of eggs. Your mom must have not worn perfume.

Starting point is 00:51:42 Nice. So, yeah, it's scary. increased risk of ADHD, you're with risk low birth weight. And I think people think low birthway, okay, who cares? I just have like a little small, cute baby. But no, like that leads to, it's not fully developed when it's born. And so it does lead to increased risk of ADHD, learning difficulties, just emotional, dysregulate. Like, it's really, it is a very serious topic. And I hope, you know, women that are pregnant or trying to get pregnant do take it more serious. So I'm sure you're no stranger to push back on the internet.

Starting point is 00:52:15 For people that are listening to this and be like, this is too far, too extreme, how do you answer those individuals? I'm sure I'm not the first person. Then don't do it. You know, that's fine. But if they say like, hey, how do you prove some of these things? Oh, and there's studies on all this. So you can just go to the internet. And anything I've just shared is a study I've read.

Starting point is 00:52:34 So I can post them. I think a lot of people think ignorance is bliss. The way I try to live my life is like 80, 20. Listen, I'm not perfect with the makeup. I like a fucking happy meal from McDonald's and a diet Coke sometimes. Like I like a margarita with tequila. Not now. But I mean, like I try to like live 80, 20, but when I am in my 80% I am in it. And I am committed to it. And I am full on 100% balls to the walls. But 80%, I mean, like, I think most people think that they have to be extreme 100%. But like 80% is still way better because, you know, what was your life going to look like if you weren't doing anything? Right.

Starting point is 00:53:21 So any change you can make, I don't care if you're, if you're, you know, 100% bad and you go to 90-10. Like, who cares? That's still an improvement. You know, the goal is really to reduce the toxic load on your body as best you can. So I don't want anyone to even think they have to get to 80-20. If you can just get anything out of your house, just go take your plugins out of your house, open a window, let's just work at one thing at a time. Like, let's clean your air out. Let's just get the fragrances out. So what I like to do is we have like a free consult feature so they can just come to us. If your brain is like, I don't know. That's smart. I have $100. I need new makeup.

Starting point is 00:53:54 Maybe some found. We'll tell you. We'll map it all out for free. That's really cool. But like to go back to the very beginning of this conversation. Like I, again, like 80, 90, 10, who cares? But the point is, is like, if you're making healthier choices and trying to find better alternatives consistently when you have something like a mishap when someone paints a guest bathroom. Like when she was freaking out, my response is like, my body is resilient because of the things I do most the time. We're like, it's not my favorite thing that it happened. But I'm not going to. So much more than that, though. It's not even just, oh my God, the chemicals. It's like you didn't listen. You didn't follow directions. You don't care. Well, for me, well, we thought again, like,

Starting point is 00:54:31 I listened and I followed directions. He did listen. But the point is, is like, I think that there's, you can also get to the point where you can spiral yourself. and put yourself into like this death stem. You have been pretty adaptable though to my changes. But my point is when she was going off the deep end yesterday, I was like, listen, I grew up on construction sites. I'll be fine. My body's resilient.

Starting point is 00:54:52 I'm going to just take care. I'll do a detail. I'll do whatever I do. But like I'm not going to sit there and like lose my shit about it all day. I am. Because it is, the fact is it happened. And I'm not burning the house down. And it's true because stress is just as bad.

Starting point is 00:55:02 You know, stress is a huge toxin. It can transfer to your baby. So when your cortisol spikes, it's spiked. Right to the baby. Because you know those people that are living. super clean and then like anything happens and they're so stressed. I'm like all of that work you're doing to live that clean. Like you just had one thing that's stressed you out and like that's way worse for you than just. I'm on a chill vibe besides the paint. Let's discuss something that no one

Starting point is 00:55:26 wants to touch with a 10 foot pole vaccines. Oh great. Okay. You know what? I get asked about vaccines. Like I'm Dr. Quinn medicine woman. Guys, you need to go do your own research on vaccines. I've done my own research privately and I have just decided that I don't need to scream from the rooftops what I'm doing. What are your opinions on it? I haven't gotten a vaccine since I was like, I don't know, 12. I remember my mom's like, you need to go get the HP. I was like, no. I don't know. Even as a kid, I just didn't understand why. I'm fine. So I invest in my immune system. I haven't gotten sick in so long. Everyone else around me is sick all the time. And you would think as someone with an, you know, immune disease, I'd be sick all the time. I have really shitty vitamin D too, so I should be sick all the

Starting point is 00:56:13 time. For some reason, I'm not. So, no, I invest into both of us. We invest into our immune system as much as we can. All throughout COVID, we had, you know, protocols we were doing, doctors we would connect with, you know, he got COVID. I didn't even get COVID when you got COVID. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't personally have a reason for them. Obviously, some people might, and that's their choice. Dogs, it gets to be a tricky topic. I know there's a lot of people out there that actually believe you can have dogs and never vaccinate them. We have a dog rescue too, but, you know, legally I can't do that. So I've been kind of forced. So with the dog rescue, we make sure to tighter test them. We won't over-vaccinate them. Talk about the tighter test. That's such an

Starting point is 00:56:55 important test. Everyone who's listening, listen to this. Yeah, it's really insane. So, you know, vet vaccines are just like any other medication, you know, it's, we're being sold vaccines. They tell you, come in annually and your dog needs CD, you know, just temper every year. And I'll give you a reminder to your inbox. Come on in, we'd love to see you. No, they just, you know, it's a sale to them. So you can actually just get a tighter test. And so a tighter test will tell you exactly what vaccines your dog does or does not need.

Starting point is 00:57:25 So, I mean, our dogs are still protected from puppy shots. So I wouldn't call myself anti-vaccine, but I'm going to be as, you know, precocious as I can. So yeah, the CDV, if you go to Gene Dodds, she's a vet, she's an expert in like immunization for canines, and she's brilliant. And so she actually has done studies on how long these vaccines actually last. So CDV, I think it was lasted over seven and a half years to life. One, I don't know if it was one round. I can't quote the amount they had, but it was puppy shots lasted the dog's whole life. Why don't they have Tiders test for people?

Starting point is 00:57:58 They do. They do. Yeah, but just no one does them. Huh, that's interesting. But if you're not sure if your vet's a good vet, the best way ever is just to say, hey, do you guys do tighter tests? Their reaction will tell you everything you need to know. Yeah, ask you about that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:58:11 You know, like the vaccine conversation was never something that populated on my radar was important to me until, one, we had children. Yeah. And then two, when everyone went ballistic during COVID and started pushing a vaccine that ended up not being effective and not working and all that bullshit. Again, I can say, now I can say that now. Thank God, people aren't getting stripped off the internet and airwaves for saying that. these days. But anyways, I think a lot of people, especially older generations, don't realize what the schedule looks like for vaccines for children because they go, well, I had them when I was a kid. And so did I.

Starting point is 00:58:45 You had seven. And anyway. So I was just going through this exercise with my parents. And I said, listen, like the reason there's some hesitancy from parents these days around this is one, because of some of the efficacy that they're, that they, that in my opinion, they could do more research around and publish more studies around and whatever. But too, a lot of our parents think that it's the same schedule that we all went through when we were young kids. Completely different. There are so many now. And I think you should not be part of the conversation if you don't have children yourself because you just don't realize what.

Starting point is 00:59:17 And until you're a parent and you have to like make that decision for yourself, I think it's something that parents should be able to push back on and ask questions because it's scary. Why I have empathy though for this is that everyone just wants to do what's right for their kids. And who's ever giving their kids 77 vaccines, they believe and their intention is that they're doing right for their kids. People who are giving their kids no vaccines feel like it's right. Anyone that's, yeah, of course, like that's the point is anyone that has kids, you realize the reason you're either doing it or not doing it is because you are trying to make whatever you believe is the best, most loving decision that's going to keep them safest. We all have the same intention. So I have empathy for parents that make any decision. Yeah, it's hard.

Starting point is 00:59:56 But the point is, is like a lot of parents feel like they don't have enough information. That's where there's hesitancy. You can't even get accurate information. You have to go to like secret rabbit hole. And the reason there's even more hesitancy and the reason COVID was so terrible and was managed so poorly is because now clearly there's information about something that was rushed out, that was ineffective, that caused a lot of harm that they are now admitting to, which does not help the case of saying, well, all of these other ones are fine. Yeah. Because now we see that you did one that wasn't fine and you lied to us about it and you're now gaslighting people to say, well, I have other questions. And I don't think that's an unreasonable stance.

Starting point is 01:00:32 And so, you know. My thing is if I'm going to inject something in my body or my children's body or my husband's body, I have 600 questions on each one. Yeah. And if you can't accept that I have 600 questions, that's a you problem. Like, I'm going to have questions. Most people are not going to listen. And then that's how you know right away.

Starting point is 01:00:51 But like, to me, it's a logical person that says, wait a minute. We had government agencies and big media outlets in a huge pressure to, get something where there was not full information, where there was actual harm, where it did not stop the quote unquote the spread. And you're and you were screaming at us from the rooftops to do this thing. And you were lying to us about the efficiency of it. And now you're saying, but don't question anything else. And we can't have it that way. Like you either have to be completely honest and transparent or you're not. Like there's not like, oh, this one was and this one isn't. It's like, well, now we need all the information and everything, which again is why I'm excited about what's

Starting point is 01:01:27 going on with the health in this country now because people are just saying like, listen, we just, like similar to you, we just want the information. Get all, publish it all, hold everybody to the same standard. If there's liability, hold them liable. That's all we want. Yeah, like, if you show me a study that this vaccine is totally safe, great. Like, thanks for the information. And, you know, now I'll consider that.

Starting point is 01:01:45 But I don't trust most of the information that's out there. I feel like most of it is, you know, cherry picked and skewed and controlled. And I can't wait to see what RFK digs up. It's going to be crazy. One thing about me is I love white shoes. I always have. I love like a good pair of white shoes. But I'm always in the gym.

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Starting point is 01:08:13 So I would definitely say to subscribe so you can make sure that you get it monthly. That's shop skinny confidential.com. I need to ask you about this sauna thing. Oh, gosh, yeah. I saw this on your page. I'm a big sauna girl. Give it to me. Yeah, I haven't used my sauna since then, honestly, because, well, I'm very sensitive.

Starting point is 01:08:37 So with my lime, it can actually make some people worse. So if you don't feel good after a sauna, you shouldn't do it. So I think a lot of people think, oh, a sauna. is good for everyone across the board, but no, it can actually make people more sick. So if your detox pathways aren't open, you're not getting the toxins out, you can just stir everything up and make you worse. So if you don't feel good in a sauna, don't go in a sauna. It's probably your body saying it's not time.

Starting point is 01:08:57 But yeah, we have a sauna, a really good one. Barrel or infrared? It's infrared. I think it's like a sunlighten. I researched that, you know, the best wood, no EMFs, no, you know, all that stuff. But yeah, it tested positive for mold. And you're like, oh, I didn't think about that. So I'm using this to detox for mold.

Starting point is 01:09:15 I think a lot of people thought it grew mold because they advertised as, you know, they can't grow mold. But it didn't grow mold. It just had mold from the house go into the sauna and be trapped in the sauna. So now you're going into this moldy sauna. So it sucks because literally the only way to know is if you test your sauna's air. Why did you decide to test your sauna for mold? You can get these bombs, not like, but there's like these mold. moms.

Starting point is 01:09:44 She's got to look into that. That sounds suspicious. And that's how it begins. Well, Ryan from Test My Home gave him to work. Everyone says Ryan, and he's like, okay, it's okay. But he came and he tested, because we have an infrared and a barrel. And obviously that's a concern. And we tested and there was none.

Starting point is 01:09:59 But it's something that people, you have to monitor and you have to pay attention to. Yeah. And then you think about people going to like hot yoga studios. Like it's probably terrible. So, I mean, I'm sorry to ruin everyone's life with that. But when we get out of ours, you like air it out. You got to like check. You know, if you have like liquid, you just have to watch it.

Starting point is 01:10:18 But there are things that you can use that he recommend. I'm sure it's on his, the test my home site. But he kind of like, he came and did that because it's a concern. Like a spray? It's like the Decon 30 or something. It's like a little, no, it's like a little bomb. And I don't know exactly what it is, but I'm assuming if he kills the mold. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:34 It just makes it some mold can't live there. Fortunately, we didn't have to do it because you test it. Well, you've got to tell us what that is. So you're going to have to go look it up and tell us. It's like a little green and white thing from what I can recall. Well, that's not enough. information. We need that you need to go talk to Ryan. We should talk about cars because yeah, Ryan came out and tested my car. I have like a Mercedes SUV and it was actually had more

Starting point is 01:10:52 EMFs than sitting on a high voltage power line. So what do you do? I wanted to make that into a reel for so long but like yeah, that surprise you can have that one. Don't use the seat heater so the electric seat heaters. Oh my God. Oh my God I use that every day. I know. I know. I literally just shiver. Okay. Brand new car. I'm just like, can't turn it. it on. Okay. Even the lights, I have like cute pink lights in my car and the flicker is out of control. I think you know about flicker and like red lights and all that stuff. But yeah, even the screen, horrible flicker. And now that Mercedes makes everything digital, it's just like flickering it. So yeah. Can you turn the screen off? Probably. I prefer that screen off. I don't need a screen while

Starting point is 01:11:33 I'm driving. I was like emailing Mercedes. Like, can you cut the electricity? They were like, go away. Like, no, we can't, lady. They tried to return my car. I did. They were like, no. So you just had EMF because of the seat heaters and the light? Well, they measure everything. It's like radio frequency. It's like a couple, three different ones. You have your little trifeld device. He comes out with this little tool and it was just like,

Starting point is 01:11:54 you know what worries me so much? And this is like a random tangent. Teslas, you see these people plugged into the charger sitting in their car. I feel, I've seen some on their phone. Yeah. I don't know about blood. I feel like that's cooking. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:14 Yeah. We definitely want to roll down your window and at least like let some of that out. So you're not just baking in like a fair day cage. But again, like some of this can start to become a prison of your own mind. I know. I know. I mean, look at guys. Look at the studio we're in right now.

Starting point is 01:12:26 We could go on like all day. No, we could go on all day. But my point is like this can really. Speaking of a prison of my own mind, let's talk about EMF. It's like better call Saul. You know his brother who's in the tin. He's like in the tin blanket all the time. Like we got to be able to live here.

Starting point is 01:12:38 I know. I want to live. But I also want to know. So it was like, yeah, I can detach from that like paranoia. You just turn the seat here. You know, it's terrible for men, condoms. Because condoms can be getting all sorts of paribans and things. Well, have you seen what's in?

Starting point is 01:12:53 A lot of guys before you told me that. I'll support you that. I would just say, I would be like, listen, like these things, this is getting in my, my endicine index, right? It's not good for you. Well, and the spermicides they use are absolutely disgusting. Yeah. You got to get woo.

Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah. It's like putting a bag over your head and doing pushups for a long time. It's like it's not fun. You remember? So it's been a while. EMF, hence the three kids. I'm a big turn your phone off on airplane mode in the other room. What are the little things that you do to protect from EMF?

Starting point is 01:13:23 Yeah. So, well, we had Ryan from TestMy Home come out. We went through our whole house. We had some, you know, messed up. Like even like dimmer switches, I'm sure he went through with you guys. You can't do dimmer switches. So we switched those out. We need to switch out.

Starting point is 01:13:35 All our LED lights haven't done that. So there's plenty of things that I know are. bad that I just haven't gotten to. So I'm not like a frantic maniac even though I want to be. So we need to fix our lights. We, I think we, we did a kill switch in the bedroom. So just, that's really nice. You could just, I want all the power off in the bedroom. Yeah. So you send me the one that you like. It's just like, I think you just install it, right? Like, you have an electrician come out. You do. Yeah. And they just like cut the power. So it's just a switch like that. So when it's ready for bed, just and it cuts the whole room. I bet you feel your

Starting point is 01:14:07 your nervous system relax. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, I would have had really high readings next to my bed. There was something with the electricity. Like, people don't think, I don't think people realize that your electricity can be wired wrong too and cause frazzled energy. So, yeah, we had to fix that. But yeah, phone doesn't go in the room, out of the room.

Starting point is 01:14:26 We do all the things. I think the biggest thing that, like, we found with the house that we were super crazy about was the mold, like, especially living in Austin. But I think a lot of people don't realize, like, under the same. And that is, you know, that stuff can be real problematic if you don't catch it. I think people think that they're going to see mold, like, like, some fungus. Like, yeah. No, you don't see it.

Starting point is 01:14:47 Like, we couldn't see a single speck of mold in our house. Our house was brand new built. We had to demo out the laundry room, the Butler's pantry, all the sinks were leaking because the guy just played build a house. Do you know Michaela Peterson? Sounds familiar, but no. Anyway, so she has a mold girl or something? No, well, she's not, but she came on the show. and she told us this crazy story about how she just grew up in a household with black mold

Starting point is 01:15:10 and like caused all of these health issues that she later found out. She's been vocal about sharing that. But, you know, at the time when she was a kid, she was sick all the time. She didn't, the parents couldn't figure out why and how. And it was mold. I know. And it's hard because like, then now what? So you're going to test your whole house?

Starting point is 01:15:27 Like I think people don't have to, it does hurt everyone, even if you don't have the symptoms. It's not good to have mold in your system. But if you're not feeling like you have fatigue. or, you know, I get really bad dark circles under my eyes, hair loss. So we don't have those symptoms, then, you know, maybe you'll get to mold later. So I think mostly just people that might have a sneaking suspicion. There's some cool tests you can do now, too, just quickly to see if it's a problem, you know, test my home is really expensive.

Starting point is 01:15:55 So I think that's called ERMI. It's a test you can just buy online and it's just like a swiffer wipe. And you go and you just wipe the dust in the house and you mail it out. And they'll tell you a list of the molds. I think it's like a couple hundred dollars. That's a great tip. It's a great tip. Do you use air filters?

Starting point is 01:16:11 Oh, yeah. What's your favorite? The Jasper. Okay, us too. Because after Ryan, Ryan's like, this is the best. Yeah, we love Jasper. And what's your vibes on shoes in the house? Oh, oh God.

Starting point is 01:16:20 I have to ask Michael. You would vomit if you saw our house, like actual vomit because we have six dogs. So that's 24 filthy paws. We do not wipe their paws every time they come in the house. So our bed is disgusting. I put it on the internet the other day. It's just like dirt, rocks.

Starting point is 01:16:36 From dogs. Oh yeah. So you would absolutely die. So shoes is like the least of our problems because shoes is the least of her problems. But the earth is not going to, listen, if you're in petroleum and you're in, you know, chemicals on the law. Well, Michael, our son went to the hospital the other day because he cut his head open and he had to get stitches. Michael tried to step a toe in my house after you were walking around the hospital. We will take them off in like that situation.

Starting point is 01:17:02 But what I'm saying is like if it's just earth outside and you're, you're, you know, clean living. Like the dirt is, I mean, people lived in the dirt all the time. It's not, it's, it's these, it's the chemicals and all the, you know. If someone is new to your website, where would you start? I'll, I will just tell everyone. I think everyone who has a pet should go by your, uh, hyper, hypochloris acid spray. Hypochloric acid, yeah. And to put on the paws. And then also, I love Agent Nator's toothpaste that you sent me. It's so good from your website. You have so many good products. Everyone should go shop. What would you tell them to pick up? I would just book a free console so you can just, I mean, I have 7,500 products. So I don't,

Starting point is 01:17:43 wow. I do have a bestsellers. Yeah, I know. It's insane. So it's not like I could just go go grab this or that. So it's a big site. So the console would help them like sort of weed through what's, what's important to that. Yep. Yep. Yep. Because I really don't know how like you'd begin. I mean, what categories do you think are people? I have a bestsellers category. So I have a bestsellers. So I'd go to bestsellers. I think Olivia Body Wash is like always a go-to. It's the same company that makes the dog shampoo. I think I sent you a mini of one of them. And I did bring you one because they made a new men's. It actually smells so good. I want to see his reaction. I want him to smell it. Give him their whole little doggy Easter

Starting point is 01:18:21 basket. That's for us. Yeah. That's for you guys. Oh, that's nice. You guys didn't have to do that. Oh, that is so cute. Okay, tell us. Tell us which each thing is chocolate that's tested for heavy metals. Love it. Those are. Clean Christmas trees. Michael, clean Christmas trees. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Ozenated dental care.

Starting point is 01:18:42 Okay, so oil pulling. But it's ozinated. That's for your foot spa. That's your sour candy. You're so sweet and thoughtful. Yeah. What's the thing you want to do with snow? The little mini body wash.

Starting point is 01:18:54 No. There should be a little. You gave me that too. That's shampoo. Did I already give you shampoo? No, you gave me that brand, something with that brand. What's the brand called?

Starting point is 01:19:02 It's like a Mary Potter. Yeah. It's Alevia. Cute. That one. You guys, the Cocoa Therapy Oregon bites. Olivia, Coastal Woodlands,

Starting point is 01:19:17 a woodsy, masculine scent with organic sea kelp. That's hot. Non-toxic, that's hot. But I'm really impressed with it. Okay. Let me smell. It doesn't that smell like a cologne?

Starting point is 01:19:28 It smells good. Oh, let me see. I'm getting a lot of the sea kelp. Let me smell it. I'm just kidding. No, it just smells like a, like an outdoorsy, like. Who cares what you think it's about me?

Starting point is 01:19:38 I like it. I love it. Yeah. It smells like, it smells very masculine. Yeah. But that's 100% natural. No sense.

Starting point is 01:19:46 100%. If you got a wash down there. Yeah. That one actually lingers, surprisingly, with no phthalates. I don't know how they do it. What does it mean with prebiotics?

Starting point is 01:19:56 Okay, health food for the skin. I love it. 10 out of 10. No, listen, but here's the thing. Now that I see this, like I'll use this. He will use it. And you can actually use a shampoo.

Starting point is 01:20:04 He's actually, he's so cute. He went on. like the EWG to like find out what shampoo and he got this one that was like yeah not it was not the vibe yeah but he's been looking for a non-toxic shampoo no and I'll go oh you'll like the jack henry one because they have a very similar scent and they have a shampoo yeah I'll try like and if you said that there's like a like I actually don't that this stuff the um for guys out there like the ones that like some of these like uh like kind of like what are these called like a clay that's

Starting point is 01:20:32 hard when you have like longer hair it's better for like shorter I can't dissect it anyway but Like for me, like I like something that I can put my, you know, like my hands through. We just never know until you try. You also got us oil butter. I'm very excited. What I'm so excited about with this is I don't have to worry about any of it or like, look it up. It's just good to go. That's the Botox in a bottle.

Starting point is 01:20:49 So that's like a new cool ingredient. Oh, I need some of that. This is amazing, you guys. Thank you so much. You know what are these other guests that come on the show been doing? You got me a very, very, very bio seaweed gel, soak off LED gel polish. So you can actually. cure that in the sun. You don't need a lamp.

Starting point is 01:21:08 Love it, which is, yeah, I have to wear my driving clothes. But I still use nasty shampoo. So I sent you my favorite shampoo. I need some cleanup in some areas. I'm not going to, I don't want to act perfect at all. Bloods. It's hard. But blood box. What's blood box? Those are a little mini fragrances, upside down, upside down. This is going to be the expectation now when people show up and be like, where's my bag? Oh, I can't wait. This is so exciting. You guys. So those are like more Kyle's favorite is the smudge and out of the black box. There's another one.

Starting point is 01:21:37 Oh, look. So his favorite is the smudge mixed with Dragon's Blood. And you guys got us lollipops? Oh, this is a fragrance. What's the brand of lollipops? Those are the lovely. Love it. I'm going to give them to my kids.

Starting point is 01:21:48 It's very nice. You know why I love this too? It's like I can like try all this and then I can pick what I love and you can reorder it and you don't have to worry about it. Yep. I will. I'm going to be on your site. I'm going to be on there and looking on all these 7,500 products.

Starting point is 01:22:01 It makes it nice that he doesn't have. He does try. He does. Bless his heart. he does he does try really hard also if she tells me like this is the thing that we're doing and it serves the purpose and like solves the function that I'm looking for that I

Starting point is 01:22:13 like I don't fight it like toothpaste I got him to switch his toothpaste I got him to switch away from the floss that has the plastic in it P-FAS too yeah luckily I didn't have some nostalgia for Windex or whatever you're talking about I think you have a choice you're nice Kyle Kyle I feel like likes it though I feel like you're good at it

Starting point is 01:22:29 he's adaptable he's like I have no choice yeah I don't have a choice I listen to everything except the hair. Really? Yeah. Well, yeah. There's a couple of things.

Starting point is 01:22:38 What do I not listen to? You still do the car wash. And I don't. What car wash? You get a full detail. Oh yeah. Well, I like a clean car. Oh, like inside too?

Starting point is 01:22:46 Yeah, I feel like you need to like start a line that's like car wash. I actually wanted to, but then I was like, no one's going to buy that. Everyone with a car will buy it. I know. See, if you're as a clean cleaning car supply thing, I would bring it to the car wash. They're organic bunny car and the organic bunnies in a car. I would love that. But it's expensive.

Starting point is 01:23:05 And those, we're seeing brands, like symbiotica is discontinuing their home line. I just don't think it's selling. So I think people have to be very mindful of investing into ideas like that because, you know, AutoZone is not going to pick up my, you know, $30 car wipe. So as much as I'd love to make it, I don't know if it would last. I think for companies, and listen, I love Symbiotica and I don't know what they're, if they're doing over there. But I think people are looking now for companies that make certain things.

Starting point is 01:23:35 things their mission. And while Symbiotica's overarching thing is obviously health, I think the reason someone like Branch Basics is having success is like that's their main mission. The stories there, the passion's there. Like they people don't want you like, you know, just like launch stuff to launch it. But

Starting point is 01:23:51 you have like such a mission I feel like behind everything you do. You could really go into any category. The fact that there's no non-toxic baby wipes. Do you understand how many wipes moms use every day? Like you could make cute pink ones with a bunny on it.

Starting point is 01:24:07 I mean, I could spiral. I will do, I want to say something. I'm going to link every single product that you guys got me on my blog. So you guys can go to the Skinny Confidential and shop every single product. We'll like explain each one because I know they're going to want a lot of these products. Theorganic bunny.com you get 15% off with Code Skinny. I definitely recommend for anyone who's interested in non-toxic living and an approachable way, going to follow your Instagram. I have been following your Instagram. I think,

Starting point is 01:24:40 I want to say for like 10 years. Really? Thank you guys so much for listening. Where can everyone find your Instagram to do a deep dive on you? It's at Organic Bunny. And website one more time. Theorganic Bunny.com. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you so much.

The Bossticks - Amanda Jo 'The Organic Bunny' On The Rise Of Infertility, Forever Chemicals, Toxic Homes & Products, & Healthier Choices To Make

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