The Bossticks - Amelia Gray Hamlin On Overcoming An Eating Disorder, Social Pressures, RHOBH, Modeling, & Life On Her Own Terms

Episode Date: August 25, 2020

#290: On this episode we are joined by Amelia Gray Hamlin. Amelia is a model, actress, and the daughter of Lisa Rinna & Harry Hamlin. On today's episode we discuss how Amelia overcame an eating disorder and shared that journey with the world. We also discuss the social pressures of growing up with parents in the spotlight and how a little television show called The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills has impacted her living life on her own terms.  To connect with Amelia Gray Hamlin click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by Feals Feals is a better way to feel better. Our premium CBD will keep your head clear and help you feel your best. CBD has been proven to greatly reduce anxiety, pain, and sleeplessness. Feals has us feeling our best every day and it can help you too.Become a member today by going to Feals.com/skinny to get 50% off your first order with free shipping! This episode is brought to you by GLOSSIER What matters to you most when it comes to skincare? Quality of ingredients? Effectiveness? Glossier believes beauty starts with skin first, makeup second. Glossier's Milky Jelly Cleanser is the perfect way to start your skincare routine. Plus, all new customers will get 10% off their first order on Glossier.com/podcast/skinny This episode is brought to you by BETABRAND and their Betabrand dress pant yoga pants. To try these pants go to betabrand.com/skinny and receive 20% off your order. Millions of women agree these are the most comfortable pants you'll ever wear to work.  Produced by Dear Media

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A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you alone for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. You are where you're supposed to be, and that's that. I just think it's really hard being compared to situations that I'm not close to. And I'm working very hard to get to. It's like people think that I am and I'm just like not.

Like I'm just trying to be my own person. and write my own story, you know, do my own thing, yet it's always a comparison. Made it back again, another Tuesday. Welcome back everybody to the skinny confidential, him and her show. That clip was from our guests of the show today, Amelia Gray Hamlin, daughter of Lisa Renna and Harry Hamlin. You're feeling great because you just got adjusted. I just got adjusted. My back is, guys, I'm out of luck.

I mean, but we've had Dennis who's been on this show. He just adjusted me. I feel good. I feel fired up to do a good introduction. You feel post-sex good. I feel, well, we had, yeah, I mean, you might have had something to do with that last night. Anyway, guys, welcome back. Here we go again.

We got a long episode today. This one was a fun one. We went all over the place. It's like a two and a half hour episode with Amelia. I don't know if it's that long, but it's getting up there. Yeah, it's a good one. You better all listen to it. You better not tune out at any point.

No, don't tune out. Okay, so before we get into this episode, I just wanted to mention something. There is some controversy going on about one of the guests that we had on the skinny confidential. Which one? again. Yeah, it's like this is nothing new because we get flack about guests all the time. We get DMs. But regardless, I wanted to get on the mic and say once again what I've always said. This is a disclaimer. Listen at your own risk. You have to consume this content at your own risk. We are a media outlet. We've literally had all walks of life on here. We'd have somebody that came on

that hates fruit. We had somebody to come on that was in an open relationship, having relationships with multiple women, multiple men. We had someone come on here that uses Adderall for weight loss. We've interviewed a legal sex worker in a brothel. That's not to say that me and Lauren are saying everybody should go be a legal sex worker and that should be the new career path. What we're doing here is presenting all different walks of life and leaving it to you, the audience, to make an educated decision on what works for you in your own life.

We've also said not to take everything we do in a plight of your life. You've got to do what works for you. If you can't do that, I don't know what to say. Yeah, you've got to come to your own conclusions with this podcast. And if that doesn't work for you, I think that this isn't the podcast to listen to. On a personal note, I am sharing my own journey, obviously, on Instagram stories and Instagram and my blog. And I am not perfect.

I'm not trying to be perfect. I am actually here to show you there's bumps in the road. And I'm constantly, like, evolving as a human. So Michael and I, our point is that you're the hero of this content. It's not me, in my opinion and me telling you to do things. In fact, I personally don't think that anyone should listen to anyone's opinion. I think they should do their own research and like Michael said, be their own guru. We've said a thousand times.

Lorne and I do what works for Lauren and I. If anybody can listen to this show and pick up a tip or a trick that they think could work for their own life or they can hear a guest that resonates with them and they can take some tips from them, great. And if not, leave it where you find it. These are conversations that Lauren and I have. We're learning at the same time as the audience. That's why we have these conversations very selfishly. Luckily, we have the benefit of sharing it with an audience. But ultimately, like, we're all in the same seat as just, you know, having conversations.

with these guests learning as we go. We never know what's going to pop up. We never know who's going to show up. Why? I don't want to say we know who's going to show up. But we never know like where the conversation's going to go. It's not like we sit here like Barbara Walters and Walter Kronkite with note cards and like trying to get something. You know, we are a media outlet. We have conversations. Take what you like. Leave what you don't. I just also think if we agreed with every single guest on this podcast, everyone would be bored to fucking tears. Do you agree with every single person that you run into? I mean, really, do you agree with everyone you go to dinner with? No, and I don't want to go to dinner with people that I just agree with all the time. That's boring.

Okay, so just to wrap this up on another sort of personal level, in regards to the past guests that I am referring to, I have said multiple times on this podcast, and I'm going to say it again, I do not consume way protein. Many doctors who have come on here told me if you want to age, eat way. However, there have been a lot of people that I've talked to and I've talked to a lot of different people, doctors, scientists, everyday women who love way protein and eat it. every day. So here's another example. It's like you have to do what works for you. So what I can say the whole point of this, do what works for you, be your own guru, do your own research, talk to your doctor, and most importantly, listen to your body. We are not doctors. We're not trying to be doctors. We are just sharing all different kinds of voices. And I do want to mention, and Michael, I think you can agree with me on this. We are going to continue to have controversial guests on

this podcast. If that doesn't work for you... We're not a real play at safe. kind of platform here. I get it if it doesn't work for you. I totally get it. But that's why there's 8 billion other podcasts to listen to. I am not for everyone and that is okay. And side note, just like your individual opinions evolve and change, so do I. And I feel like we're doing it in front of an audience and we're just trying to bring you along for the ride. Speaking of that, I might be for everybody. Okay. Maybe I'm not. All right. Most likely, I'm definitely not. With that, let's introduce the independent, amazing, self-aware, smart, entrepreneurial top model Amelia Hamlin. She is the daughter of Lisa Renna of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,

which I hope Taylor is going to cue that music. And her father is Harry Hamlin, but she has such an interesting life. She is smart. She's vivacious. And like I said, and I'm going to say it again, she's self-aware. This interview does not disappoint. I hope you guys love it. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. We're just talking about how Amelia doesn't know who Howard Stern is. No, no, no, no, no, no. I feel like that rings a bell now. Now that I have it in my mind, I'm like, okay, maybe. He is the fucking bell, pretty much. He is the bell. He is the king of audio. I believe, I think I used to hear, but the reason I brought it up is I think I used to hear your mom on Stern. They always used to have wild conversations. Your mom's an outspoken person.

I'm sure you are very well aware. Yeah. I think that you need to go home to your mom and say, mom, I just went on the skinny confidential podcast and they told me about your interviews on Howard Stern and watch her face. Well, was it really sexual? Like, do I even want to listen? I don't know. I haven't. I haven't listened to her.

I can't remember. I don't think, no, your mom's like, obviously. Either he was talking about her or with her. Always favorable.

I think they got along. I think they're friends. I mean, it's been a long time. So, I mean, I used to listen to him back in the 90s.

Yeah, we don't. She wasn't even born. No, and then like in the 2000s. Were you really not? No, but when he switched to Syria.

She doesn't know what the 90s. I used to listen to him back and forth when I drive to call it because I went to Arizona and I go back and forth between California and there. And I just, I remember, I think she was either on there or something called in or something. We also may remember her from Playboy, too. Okay. It explains a little bit. So give us a little bit of background where you grew up, what your childhood was like. Give us some context for anyone who's unfamiliar with you.

And I might have you go close like this. This is our first podcast. We're popping your jury. Okay. Yes, you are. So I grew up in Alabama. I went to a progressive elementary hippie weird school that I'll probably end up setting my kids too one day.

It was so weird. I have a sister who's three years older than me. I have a brother who's 40 who is my dad's son. Then I went to an all-girl school, which completely fucked me up, like really bad. Why? Really bad. You know, I just think that at my progressive hippie elementary school, I was taught one thing. And then I went to an all-girls school in the center of Brentwood and I was taught a completely

different thing. And like they preached feminism so much. But I feel like it was one of those instances where they didn't really practice what they preached. And that's when I first started having more of a negative mindset and when things started to go downhill. Like I had the most amazing childhood ever. I was a super normal kid. Like I loved jumping. on the trampoline. It was dope. It was great. And then I went to this all-girls school and all of a sudden, I'm in class and I'm being taught that, you know, models are horrible and they sexualize women in negative ways and actresses are horrible. And like, here I am sitting in my social history, history class. I think that's what it was called or something in like ninth grade. And like,

there's literally a photo of my mom on the projector and they're like dissecting all of the bad things that like my mom has done. Did they not realize you were in the class? No, they did. It's weird. All the weird bad things my mom has done representing woman and blah, blah, blah. So then I was just kind of like, this is really weird. And then I remember we would dissect like Carl's Jr. weird ads and shit like that.

And I would just get so uncomfortable because not only, you know, was my mom brought up, but like I'm over here trying to be a model. and everybody in my class knew that. And they're like basically looking at my family being like everything you're doing is wrong, blah, blah, blah. So long story short, we ended up getting pulled out of the school. And I'm pretty sure if we didn't get pulled out, we would have been asked to leave. They were just super non-accepting of what my family was doing in the industry. So I think for a long time, this sort of made me change my outlook on what I wanted to do. And it almost. changed what I wanted to do. Then when I went through my eating disorder, I feel like the reason

why I was so outspoken and I really wanted to share my story was because I feel like, you know, women's stories aren't shared enough. And I realized that at my all-girls school sitting there shaming women, not only body-shaming woman, but shaming woman for, you know, embracing their sexuality. and Heidi Klum can eat her Carl's Jr. Burger as sexually as she wants to for all we care. Like that doesn't need to be a negative thing unless she was forced to do it and she was uncomfortable and she didn't want to do it and blah, blah, blah. Like that doesn't have to be negative. That could be looked at as something very inspiring.

And so anyways, went through my eating disorder, which was like short and I'm super lucky about that. I don't even think that my eating disorder really was. was like based upon my body and my body image because I was like my mom's fucking small. Like I was always small. But I think it was like this all girl school like stuff that I went through. And I was like just in a depressed state and I was just really confused. Anyways, go through my eating disorder, decide to share my story. I don't like talk to my mom about it or anything.

I'm sitting in Cabo one day and we're at the Palmia and I'm like sitting in my room and I'm like, you know what? Like I'm just going to tell everyone on my Instagram right now that this is. what I'm going through and this is what I went through because like here I am sitting on my bench at the resort in Cabo looking through my Instagram feed feeling so shitty about myself because I don't look like these girls and then I'm like well why are we all being lied to like why not just be that girl that's like this is what I'm going through I know someone else is too you're not alone X Y and Z so I think I just decided to really stand up for women and talk about what I'm doing. going through so that others didn't feel alone like I did. But at the same time, that does come

and bite me in the butt. Because at the same time, I don't know what I'm doing or what I'm talking about. I'm literally just sharing the story that's happened to me. So it's definitely scary and weird. I also think a mistake I made, well, I don't think it would take back anything that I did, but I think a mistake that I made was sharing my story while I was still going through it. Because, I hadn't healed, I think that it was a lot harder to really understand the message that I wanted to portray. And I think that like there's no black and white when it comes to an eating disorder. There's a lot that happens and goes on. Again, that's why I want to study psychology. I don't need to necessarily get a degree in it. But I just want to have some sort of understanding

of like why. Not only does the human brain, but women's brains go through, you know, what I went through. You said something interesting. You said that your school, that it was all about feminism. I noticed I was telling Michael this the other day, like, we talk so much about feminism, but sometimes I notice when it doesn't fit in to some people that are feminist box, I put that in quotes, then it doesn't work for them. Was that being a feminist then?

Yeah, I just noticed, like, for instance, I'll give an example. We went to the Bunny Ranch and we interviewed Alice Little. who's the head bunny there. And we really wanted to showcase how smart and well-spoken and articulate and amazing she is. And we got backlash from that. And some of it was from feminists. And I'm like, this is so hypocritical because part of being a feminist is embracing all women, whatever that looks like.

So it sounds like that's your school. It was sort of like that. It's not like you fitting into the box. It's the problem with self-righteous people is like they're self-righteous and they say like and they're all for progress and change until it's, doesn't fit their version of progress and change. Exactly. And that's the, that's the irony of all of it.

I was really appalled. Yeah. And it's sad because I'm pretty sure that my sister and I were the only people that clocked it. You know, it's funny is like, running dear media, I get asked all the time, like, well, how can a man work with all these women? And like, you know, that's like a default question that a lot of publications and a lot of news outlets ask me. And I think, like, what I've been doing is, like, the more interesting question for me

to ask back to them is like, why do you think that's so strange for men to work with women? Right. Exactly. And, like, I think we've gone to. this place where like he's like you can't work with women you're a man you can't help you can't do these um shows because you're a man you can't do that because and i'm like well how have we got to a place where that's not okay and i think like that's the whole problem with society it's like we've

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You are going to be obsessed. Do you think, because Michael and I have been having a lot of conversations about raising where we want to raise our baby? Oh my gosh, Zaza. think that L.A. has to do, though, also with what you've gone through because you're in the spotlight, you have this school that seems very weird. Do you think just being surrounded by L.A. has anything to do with what you've been through? 100%. I think that, like I said, I would never take anything back. I would never do anything over. But I find myself thinking about the simplicity of a small town a lot.

And I find myself thinking of like, what would have happened if I was born in Oregon in Medford where my mom was born? Would I have gone through these things? Would I have, you know, this depth in, you know, perspective in my mind at such a young age or, you know, would I be kind of, I don't want to say the wrong thing? But like, you know, would I just not be who I am today? And then it's like, but the simplicity of that life is so nice. Like, you don't really have to worry about all of these small things that really don't matter in life. And I think that that was really hard for me growing up is because a lot of people I felt like that I was surrounded with just weren't really there like I was, if that makes sense. Because I feel like it really is all about how you were raised in L.A. and just so many people.

I feel like just weren't raised in the way that I can relate to. Though I feel like L.A. has really made me good and bad. Bad because I have standards that I shouldn't have growing up in L.A. What ways? With what? You know, like I remember when I got my first car, I was so excited. I got a Mercedes CLA 250 sport. And I was so excited.

You know, it was like the coolest car. Any of my friends had. Yes, I was paying for it, but like my parents, you know, got it for me. And then I had to pay for the down payments or the lease, whatever. I don't even know what it's called. So, like, all my other friends, you know, I was so lucky and blessed to have a Mercedes growing up where I, you know, I grew up in like a nice place. But like the friends that I hung out with and chose to hang out with weren't necessarily as wealthy as some people in L.A. And I loved that.

And that's pretty much all I knew and was surrounded with growing up. And then I met another group of people who I really hope don't listen to this podcast. Everybody listens to this podcast. Do they really? I'm just kidding. No, I think they do, honestly. So then I met this other group of friends. They're all like pulling up in their G-waggans with like their Rolexes around their wrists, like at 18 and like all this shit.

And I'm just like, whoa. Like I just went from being the cool. girl because I had a Mercedes-CLA 250 sport. Now I'm like the poor girl who doesn't have a G-wagon. Tell the Pissant story. Well, no, there's always like we always talk about it. I mean, I don't want to interrupt your story, but there's always like a bigger fish. And it's, I think that it's good for people to understand that because they look and they see, oh, like this person, you know, like right when you think you made it at the top, you like turn to the left and there's somebody that's much higher or lower. And I think that's a beautiful thing about life is like just when you think, you know,

my dad always says, like, just when you think you made it, you realize you're a fucking piss aunt because there's always somebody bigger. I think that. I think that's That's why people have to start practicing being happy with where they are. Because there's always, there's different levels to this shit. I mean, that's, Lauren likes that because it's like every time you think like, oh, I'm the shit I made it. You got to remember. Like, got to check yourself a bit.

But I also think like that's one of the things that I would have definitely rather not had in my childhood because I think that I, to some extent, did come out a bit materialistic. And in times I catch myself being like, Amelia, wait, like, this doesn't matter. Let's pull it back because this isn't what life's about. I catch myself saying all the time, like, this isn't real life. Like, it's like I think that money is some kind of like simulation or something. Like I'm always like in my head, this isn't real life. This isn't what matters.

But you know what's funny? I have to tell you what's funny. I was telling Michael the other day that it's so predictable to me just how some people from L.A. like drive up like you just said in their G-wagon with like 800 diamonds up their arm with the huge watch and all the stuff. and I will say you walked in you're wearing a fucking like white t-shirts and jeans you're totally dressed down so comforts yeah she's wearing like she's just so dressed down I don't like that to me I don't even have makeup on I mean I did cover this massive pimple but we're gonna get into pimples don't

worry we have questions okay great but you're you're so um like the opposite of superficial the way you look so that's interesting that you say that yeah but I think that has a lot to do with my mom like I remember growing up I was always sort of confused and I would ask her frequently. And when I say growing up, maybe I was like eight, I'd be like, mom, like, why don't you wear makeup like all the other moms that drop the kids off at school? Like, why do all my friends moms wear makeup and you don't? And I remember she was just like, you know, like, I just don't, I don't like the feeling of it on my face. Like, I don't feel like I need to wear makeup to leave the house. And like, what, like, moms at like 630 a.m. Like have their full face of makeup on.

Do you know what I mean? Like, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to be one of those moms. I don't give the shit. But so I would always ask her, but not only would she not wear makeup, it would be like I would have my friends over and like my mom would walk downstairs in her full on thong white shirt, nipples out. And I'd just be like, okay. But I wouldn't think anything about it because it was normal. Like it was what my mom did. And now I look back and I'm like, fuck, like my friends must have been so uncomfortable. But that being said, I think I was just so.

so like brought up around someone that like does not give a flying fuck from what i've seen i think that's an accurate description it's pretty much the only one i have for her but yeah so i just i don't either but sometimes i wish i did because like sometimes my friends will make like the other day got my eyebrows laminated and my eyelashes like curled or whatever they look amazing no it was a long time ago oh okay but thank you i want to get it was a month ago oh no i'll go into that don't But anyways, my friend goes, my friend goes, wow, you look so pretty today. And I'm like, oh, thank. She's like, I've never seen you like this.

And I was like, wait, are you, are you kidding me? Like, because when I tell you, like, I don't care, like, it's bad. Like, I really don't. Like, this is me, like, dressed a lot. But you have to have some kind of I don't care element to be on housewives. So, like, I really don't care on that show. When you put yourself. But I got to start.

No, I don't think you do. I think it gives a real depiction of real life, like, behind the scenes. So when you go in to film that, do you just not give a shit about what you look like, what you say? Like, are you just like whatever? Like, they're going to edit it like shit anyway. I literally don't care at all. My mom will text me and she'll be like, okay, like, can you come over tomorrow and film, blah, blah,

I'm like, sure. I go in my pajamas to my mom's house. I'll, like, throw on some jeans that I have at my mom's house. Like, I literally don't think about it. if I have a pimple like I do today, I'll cover it. But like I'm not going to put foundation on and like my contour. Though I need to start because now looking back, I'm like, shit. Like I need to start caring a bit more.

But at the same time, like, again, because I grew up without my mom wearing makeup, I'm like, I don't feel prettier when I wear makeup. You know what I mean? Like, I feel fine without makeup. So I just don't really give a shit. But then I look back and I'm like, oh, God. I should have given a shit. Do you watch the show when it's live after you've been on it?

Are you like, this is triggering? No, no, no. Though my sister and I just moved in together. And for the past, like, three weeks, we have watched it only because, like, I'm sitting on my couch. I'm having dinner. And all of a sudden my fucking Instagram would be flooded with, like, 100 comments, 200 likes, like, just going at me.

And I'm like, what did I say? Then I'll have to rewatch it. And because my mom doesn't tell me because she doesn't want me to get stressed out. Like she's not going to be like, you had a bad episode. Like whatever. But like today, she was like, yeah. So like tomorrow you're on the show. Is it on Wednesdays?

I don't even know. She's like, yeah, like tomorrow you're on the show. Like, don't worry though. Like it's okay. But she's like, don't talk about it. Like don't comment on it. And I'm like, okay. Like I won't because I do struggle with like biting my tongue at the same time.

Let me ask you this because I think about it now with our child. Like Lauren and I are not super public people, but we're public. in some regards, right? And I think about, like, we both grew up with parents that weren't public. So, like, we had childhood where, like, a lot of privacy and, like, weren't in the public guy. You've obviously grown up in an opposite way where, like, your mom and dad are both very public. You've had to grow up with that dynamic.

So obviously, maybe can't relate to the way we grew up. We can't relate to the way you grew up. But thinking about a child now, do you think one way is better, worse? Like, do you wish that you had more privacy less? Like, even now, good, bad? Because I think about it all the time. It was like, Lauren and I kind of in a way signed up for what we do and putting ourselves out there. But the kid obviously has not.

Didn't. Didn't. Yeah. And I think about that a lot. I'm like, I would freak out if somebody like started bothering my kid. You know what I say to people. A lot of people ask me like, how was it growing up with your parents in the public eye? And I don't know.

You had an answer to a question earlier that reminded me of it. And I'm just like, well, how is it not having your parents in the public eye? Because just as they don't know my life, I don't know theirs. Because it wasn't like I grew up half and half. Like I grew up full force in the public eye. So I don't know any different. But I turned out fine, I think. I think I'm fine.

I think you turn out more than fine. There's some people like kids that have grown up and I think that they've done a good job. But that's not always common. I think I'm fine because my parents were so open because there are so many celebrity families and celebrity children who I know personally, and they're just, like, so private that we have no idea what's going on behind the curtains. And I think that's when things can kind of go astray. That is such a good point. It's like your secrets make you sick. Yeah. That is so true. Like my family, we don't have anything to hide so it doesn't really stress me out. But I feel like

when you're spending so much time and effort on like trying to contain your lawsuits or your secrets or like whatever you need to contain. Like that's when it gets like crazy good go. It's so funny you say that because we talk, I talk about this in business and I'm like if you're in any kind of public person, any kind of business person, I either think it's like you're so far behind the closed door. Nobody knows who you are or if you're out there, you got to be so fucking out there that it's like, you know, like at this point there's not like people ask me all the time like,

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There's a lot of girls out there that are listening that are struggling or have struggled with an eating disorder. What were the three most helpful things that got you? And you said it's not black and white, so I don't want to say through it. But what are the three most helpful tools in your toolbox? I think the most important thing is you need to want to get better. And I know that this is a difficult one because a lot of people probably don't. And it's really hard. But for me, it was like waking up, whatever day I woke up, looking in the mirror and being like, holy guacamole, you are really. really skinny and it is very scary. And obviously, I mean, I guess it's not obvious, but I woke up

one morning, like at my childhood best friends house. It was like seven in the morning. My parents, my sister, they're all outside, like waiting to pick me up. And I'm like, what are you doing here? Like it's Saturday morning and they're like, get in the car. We're going to UCLA. And I was like, oh my God. And in that moment, I was like, I'm going to rebel. Like, they're crazy. I don't have an eating disorder. UCLA to get treatment? Yes. Okay.

UCLA to get treatment. I don't think I've ever gone in depth in this story, but we show up. It's like this really scary old man's office. I guess he's like famous and like eating disorder. But like he's like hoarder vibes. Like could it not have been a more uncomfortable vibe for me. And I sat there and there was just like books everywhere, even on the floor. Like everywhere.

Scary, scary vibes. And he looked at me and I really took this man seriously. Like he was very legit, scary. And he looked at me and he was like, so, yeah, basically at this rate, in about four months, you're going to be 45 pounds and you're going to be dead. And I just remember being like, wait, I'm sorry. That's even, like, that's humanly possible. Like, I could get to 45 pounds, like, thinking that in my head.

Then I was like, yeah, I don't want to do that. And then, like, I just snapped out of it. Like, I was so lucky that I was just like, yeah, don't want to be 45 pounds, not going to be, you know, this type of person. I'm not going to ruin my life because of whatever issues I'm having. Like, you don't need to be skinny to, like, live your best life. Like, it's either skinny and die or, like, happy and be who you are. When, do you remember, is there like an epiphany of when it started or was it something slow? Like, how does that kind of thing start? I don't know a lot about it. Okay. Is it like something that, like, you just start

restricting cheese and then all of a sudden you're playing meat and like, okay. So, I think I was like 14 or 15 walking out of like American rag. Is that what the store is called? Is that a drawer? Yeah. With my mom. I was wearing jeans and like this cute Harley Davidson shirt. And like I was kind of in my awkward stage in life.

And paparazzi was shooting us. And I didn't really think anything of it. I've had that happen since I was, you know, born. Wasn't a big thing. But then I remember that's when Snapchat and Daily Mail and all these things were like, you know, a thing. And you can actually see where the photos went opposed to growing up. You know, I just knew someone was taking photos to me, but I didn't know where they went. So I'd have to get a magazine to see where it went.

Right, exactly. So like I took it upon myself to just like look it up, I think. Or like someone sent it to me. I don't know. So I saw these photos and I was just like, like, oh my gosh, Amelia, what's happening? Like, this is so bad. And then I remember crying to my mom about them. And there was this thing on the Internet that I had found of a model that I looked up to at the time basically saying that her trick is doing the master cleanse.

And she always does the master cleanse before a huge job. So I was like, okay, great. Like, I'm going to do the master cleanse. It's going to be great. Whatever. I did the master cleanse for 25 days. Holy shit. Wait, isn't that just lemon water and cayenne?

Yeah, 25 days. You drink just lemon and cayenne water for 25 days. Yeah. Wow. So I did that. Then I... No food. Occasional soup.

Jesus. Maybe like two sweet potato fries. Then I started working out a lot. And when I mean like working out a lot, like I'd have my master cleanse. And if I had popcorn with one of my friends because like I was 15, like I was hanging out people. It was summer. Like I was still, you know, living my best life. If I would have popcorn, like even skinny pop with my friends, like I would, even if it was one in the morning, like, I would go in the gym because I was living at my parents' house and I would just work out, run on the treadmill.

And did your parents know? Like, what, like, what is she doing up there? No, they were asleep. They had no idea. And so then I would start working out during the day and then they would, like, see it. And then my mom comes in the gym one day and she's like, what's happening? Like, are you okay like your sister thinks you're anorexic and then i was like no like Delilah just doesn't want me to ever be skinnier than her so like this was an ongoing thing for a long time where they didn't know there was actually anything wrong because i would just be like no like Delilah's trying to sabotage me and like blah blah blah this and that and like obviously she's not like she's not a psychopath like that didn't cross her mind she was genuinely concerned for me so and how many years part of you guys we're three

Okay. Now I love her and she's my best friend, but like there were definitely rocky moments. But so master cleanse, then I started incorporating soup also. I would weigh myself every single morning. Big fat no. Like now I notice even though I've been recovered for like two years almost now, even when there's a scale in my presence or like it's fine if there's a scale in my presence. But once I, decide to go on it like I'm fucked my day's fucked I am fucked even when I go to the doctor I don't let them weigh me that's so interesting that you said that because my friend lost 65 pounds and I was telling him that I'm in the midst of losing 20 pounds and I was weighing myself every morning but like sometimes you have you to know no he said don't the gauge do not weigh yourself Lauren so I haven't weighed myself since he said that it was a month ago because he said when you get on that scale it spikes your cortisol but you you like you gain weight from the cortisol so he He told me to get off the scale.

That's so, you said it like spiked your cortisol all day. No, like 100%. And that's another interesting thing because once I did recover from my eating disorder, I immediately gained 50 pounds in six months. And like, to be honest, I was still starving myself when I, like, recovered in the beginning, like the first three months of my recovery. Like, I was still eating, like, just an apple a day. And then, like, I would have, like, a bowl of vegetables at night and, like, maybe with some

saracha and, like, a dream. of olive oil if things got like pretty crazy. But anyways, so I gained 50 pounds in six months and I was like, I know something's wrong with me. Like I just know something is wrong with me. I was asleep all day long. I was so mean to everyone. Like, and I was still eating such sparse amounts of food. Like my dad explains it. Like I was literally eating like a baby bird. Like I was unwell. But I just kept gaining weight. That was really. obviously, not even on, you know, it's hard on anyone, but then like to be in recovery for my eating disorder, to be gaining 50 pounds so rapidly. And I think that this is a reason why so many girls

don't want to get the help and they don't want to get better because the treatment centers misinform you about the steps to take to heal. And I think I was so nervous about healing because I thought there would be like an IV in my arm of like just nutrients or like I'd have to stuff my face with a bag of Cheetos like every two hours and like I was just freaking out about it. But it's not about that. It's just about like you have to get your body out of this fight or flight mode. Otherwise, it's just going to get so bad. And what I just like really want to aim to inform people is like the longer you're anorexic, the more detrimental effects it's going to actually have on your body. And another thing, like I said, like I wish I had come out about my

experience when I was done having it because I think I would have chosen a lot of different words and I would have said different things because I have suffered so many environmental issues in my body now between my hormone imbalance, between my thyroid being inflamed constantly, between my Hashimoto's, between my depression and anxiety that I now have, like, nobody needs to go through that. It is just a waste of time and a waste of two pills every morning. Can we discuss Glacier? What a fun subject. You guys know about Glacier. It is all over social media. You've seen it everywhere. They have skincare products. They have makeup products, body care products, and fragrance. They are the ones that I feel like popularized the glowy, dewy skin look. They are so community-driven, which I love. So they're constantly having conversations via social with their community about the best ingredients, techniques, and dream products. result is products that are inspired by real routines. I love that. So if I were to pick one skincare product by Glossier, I definitely would pick their future do. I think it's super bouncy on the

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Is Hashimoto's low thyroid? Yeah. Okay. So basically, I just remember working out eating like I did when I was anorexic, not allowing myself to heal because I was like gaining even more weight than I had ever gained in my life. And then I just remember one day I was like breaking down and I was laying down to my parents' kitchen. encounter and I was like something's wrong. Something's wrong with me. I know something is wrong. You need to take me to a doctor. And my mom was like, no, you're fine. I just think that, you know, you have a new boyfriend. I was dating this guy at the time and she was like, you have a new boyfriend. Maybe you're happy and you're like eating more than you think you really are. Or maybe you're just like not really

getting enough physical exercise, which you know what is valid because in my family, we do have to exercise. We don't have the most incredible metabolisms. It's kind of like a thing that we have to exercise. So my parents' first thought was, okay, maybe like, you know, you're not eating right for your body or you're not exercising enough. So I tried doing all those things for a little bit. Still nothing. I'm just like gaining and gaining and gaining. And that, I think, was so hard. Being in the public eye, gaining weight at such a young age, like, that's just so fucked up. Like, I hated that so much. And then I went to a doctor and he was like, whoa, like your levels are crazy and then told me that it was caused for my eating disorder. But enough about eating disorders. There's more things to talk about.

We can talk about more things than eating disorders. I just have one question about thyroid. Did you go to a hormone specialist or a doctor? Because I have been told that going to a hormone specialist is way more important. No, no, no. You need to go to my endocrinologist. Okay. The reason I'm so obsessed with him is because there are so many endocrinologists where they take your lab results and they look at them and then they're like, okay, well, you have enough T3, you have enough T4. You shouldn't really be having these symptoms. So I'm going to keep you off of medication. And I'm not the biggest believer in medication.

I truly am not. But my thyroid doctor sits there for an hour with you. He listens. He talks to you. He takes notes. He looks at your lab results. And then he's like, but how are you? feeling and then you explain how you've been feeling if you're lethargic blah blah blah

x y and z then he's like okay well this is what we're going to do or if your lab results don't really correspond with your symptoms who cares about the lab results it's really about how you feel and what's going on how long did it take for you to feel better four months okay because i'm on month two and i was like eating i mean i was eating not like i was eating enough but not a ton and exercising every day and the weight was not coming off. You know what I will say. I've noticed, I haven't eaten an egg in almost three years. I heard that's not good for your thyroid.

I love eggs. No, I know. But I really do think it's like, but there's obviously like no scientific evidence to back that. So I can't really, you know, push that a lot. But eggs really destroy my body. Like not only. Medical medium says that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not only do they make me have strep throat in random places of my body, which I feel like we can get into. What do you mean strep? What is that? What is that? Hold on. You got to explain that. Okay. So I was at Coachella one year and I had a nipple piercing. Oh, I heard that fucking hurts. Oh, it really does. It got caught in a door once. It was horrible. Oh, God. I know. It was horrible. Oh, my God. So I'm at Coachella. I'm at Erica Jane's Moschino Party.

And I'm like living my best life with my friends. Another low profile character. Yep. And there's like a balcony without a railing. And this is all very important. There's a balcony without a railing. And I really want this like fried chicken sandwich that's being passed around. So I'm like going to grab the fried chicken sandwich.

And then someone pushes me. And I'm at the side of the balcony. And all there is is like the railing is like a hedge that is like not actually there and I'm like, I'm like high up. Like, say this is the ground and this is like the ledge. Like, I'm here. And there's just like ground here. Like nothing to stop me or save me. So anyways, I get pushed. My leg like falls in the crack. And then my friend grabs me like this. And then like my nipple piercing like just, you know, gets caught. But I don't feel it. And I'm like, you know, it's fine. Like I don't know why I didn't feel it. I wasn't on drugs. But like I just didn't feel

I was eating so many eggs that weekend. Like every morning I would wake up and have eggs because like eggs is such an easy breakfast to have before like going to rage. You know what I mean? Like just have my eggs. So then I get home and I'm like, mom. Like, oh my God, I really don't feel well. And she's like, well, you went to Coachella.

So you have to go to school. Sorry. And I'm like, no, mom. Like I really don't feel well. So. So honestly, I don't even think I've ever done that. So I'm sitting in my class, my homeschool class. And it literally looks like this.

And I'm sitting there. And I'm like, woof, it's hot in here. And like, it was notorious for being very cold in this place. And I'm like, ooh, it's really hot in here. And I'm like, literally about to faint. And my teacher's like, what's wrong with you? And I'm like, I don't know. It's really hot in here.

I had an 104 fever. 104. My left boob was out to here. Okay? I was 16 and had mastitis, whatever the heck that is. Oh, man. I heard that's the worst. Oh, my gosh.

I will literally show you a foot out of my boob after it. It was the worst thing I've ever been through. I went to the emergency room. They told me you have a kidney infection. Oh, because it got your nipple got infected. No, I didn't have a kidney infection. Had to go to Cedars special disease doctor. And he was like, yeah, like you have strep in your left breast.

So anyways, when I eat eggs, I either get strep throughout or I get strep in parts of my body. Also, I was 12 hours away from going sepsis. So like I will never. Wait, hold on. Did I miss something? Because did you nipple get torn from the nipple re? Is that why you got infected? Or the eggs did it?

No, I miss something. Okay. The nipple piercing being pulled caused a small abrasion in my body. I already had the strep living in my system. And then it went to that part of my body because it was an open wound. No, when I tell you, like, my boobs were this big. No, it's a real thing. And like, I didn't just get those down, like, naturally.

Like, I'm not going to lie. I've never talked about this, but like, I had, I had to fully get surgery. No, listen. What? That could have killed you because. I've never talked about that. It could have killed you. How do you get surgery?

I had to get a breast reduction. No, Lauren, it could kill you because this, this guy. Hold on. I've never said anything like, I've never said that. And I think my mom's going to kill me, but I've never said that. But it's because you had the infection and it was close to your heart. Like, I have this scar right here on my hand when I was young and Ben. Oh my God.

You can't compare the scar on your hand to this. Are you fucking kidding? Yes, you can. I will compare it. Because what happened was I was young and dumb. Welcome to this is what it's like. We're just being a dumb kid and it got infected. Yeah.

But I lied to my parents so I didn't want to tell them how I did it. I was being stupid. And so like, okay, whatever, just stitch it up. And it got infected. The same exact thing happened. It blew up like a watermelon. And I was like one day away from the guy being like, yo. Hold on.

My doctor told me I was going to die in 12 hours. This is different though. She had to actually get surgery. No, but like it's similar. I did. I had to get the stuff one more day. If I had to get IV drugs. Yeah.

I had to get all the IV stuff. they had to stab the hand with like three needles to get the infection. It moves up your body. What's scary for you is that was so close to your heart. And it was my left boob. Yeah, if it gets your heart, it kills you. That's why, listen, I know this. I'm not just telling an irrelevant story about me.

Wait, so they had to drain it? I don't get what they had to do. Yeah. You have to get all the infection. Listen, back in the day. The infection was still there. If this was 1860, she would have been dead. And it made my boobs so uneven.

Like, this boob was this big. And then this boob was this big. And then it was like, oh my God. Like, am I really going to have to. live the rest of my life with my left boobs significantly larger than my right boob. Did they draw the circle around the red area? Yeah.

See, Lauren, I know what I'm talking about. Oh my God. I can't believe you're comparing your hand. They measured it by centimeters and it took photos. And it's spreading and spreading. It is honestly, that is some of the worst pain ever because it's almost like your skin is trying to explode. It's hot and it's vainy.

You get fever. You're sweating. I've never in my whole entire life. So this is why I do not eat X. You should try it maybe. Also, I was born. with Epstein Bar and that like has the strep caca blah-da-living. I need to know if I have that.

They just told me I have low thyroid. How did I find out of... Did you get delirious? Were you delirious? I'm going to go to your endocrinologist. Oh my god, was I delirious? I'm wearing my... His name is Benjamin Cohan.

Wait, I think my friend from Pilates told me about him. I've heard he's the best. The best. I've actually heard him before. I don't even remember how I found him, but I am so glad I did, like so lucky because I listen to all your ads, obviously, because I listen to your podcast. And what is that ad that's called like a name of like a branch or a bush or something? And it's like time with your doctor.

Oh. Parsley Health? Yeah, parsley health. Parsley Health, everybody. Parsley health. I remembered it with like a branch affiliated with. What's a discount code? Partsia.

Give a free spot. Okay. His promo code skinny. Okay. Wait, but you get so much more time with your doctor a year is what you were saying. But this doctor, I get so much time with him every single time. I just, I feel so blessed after listening to your parsley health. I didn't realize.

So it took you four months to feel better. Four months to feel better. I started losing. You better get your agent involved. They're going to, parsley better pay you. No. I started losing weight after like four months. And I could really notice in my ankles.

Like my ankles were this round. They had no like definition to them. And my sister will still like still make fun of me. She's like, why did you ever care about what your ankle? looks like. And I'm like, you don't realize it until you actually have cancels that like your ankles have no definition. I remember I was doing a photo shoot and I was on set and I heard them talking on my ankles. And I was like, wait, you're lying. Like I thought I was the only one that saw this. And they're like, need to add more definition or ankles. And I was like, I am out like, Jesus.

I think my God. I've talked about this and I'm probably a weird character to talk about. So I think it's like one of the hardest things you can do. And there's a lot of people like, you know, people think modeling's easy. But you're just sitting there for hours on end with. all these people dissecting your body. I can barely take a Christmas photo. You know what I mean? Like I fucking lose it. But I consider myself like a someone that's capable.

I can't do pictures. It's not just. I can't either. Modeling is so just hard though because you have to stand there. It's hard because you have to have the right. There is nothing. Standing there's nothing. It's the right angle.

If my daughter was ever doing pictures and like I heard some asshole talk about the ankles, I'd probably go get into fist fight. I'd be like, hey, you're not going to be on set. Like, you, Jim, you quit that shit. She's done with you and she's like 15. No, no. I'll be there. I'm going to be like, oh, yeah, that's so true.

I did not like my dad when I was 15. I'm going to chain myself to her and just like follow her around. I want to know more about your modeling career. Are you still doing it? What's going on with that? Okay. So I think modeling is like, do you ever think about like, you know what? If I were to die like tomorrow, what would make me happy?

If I were to die in a year, like what do I need to accomplish to make me happy? For me, that is modeling. Like, I don't know why I have always had this just like. like fascination with it. And for me, it's not about the money. It's very much not about the followers, not about the clout, not about anything besides the fact that I have always been so artistic and I have never been able to express that because I'm so shitty at drawing. I'm so bad at editing things. Like I'm so bad at photography. I hadn't ever found like my outlet until when I was like 13. I finally did. And I was like, wow, like I really enjoyed this.

form of self-expression. But I think what makes me so angry is like this culture of Instagram models and like, you know, all these things. And now it's just like all the people that actually want and are passionate about the art of, you know, the clothing, the art of the designer and the history of the clothing and the designer. Like I remember, I think I was 13. And my mom's friend from Arames, his name's Michael in Paris took us to like the top of the, the, first Hermes store in Paris and like we got to see where the Hermes family had picnics and we got to see you know everything from the horse saddles that inspired the bags and the leather and certain jewelry to like the dog collars that inspired the bracelets and things like that and I just was so fascinated

by that I knew that I didn't want to design clothes but it just really really grew such a huge appreciation that I was like I need to do this like I want to be a part of of this space because I don't feel like, like, there's not that much, I feel like when you think about Hermes or when you think about fashion, these things, like you, or at least I just affiliated it with wealthy people. I didn't affiliate it with the history that was actually behind the family and the brand itself and, you know, things that went down during the war that would, certain wars that would, you know, depict what they designed or influence these things. And I just think it's so fascinating that we still have so many of these brands who now have moved on to different

designers because a lot of the designers, the original designers, have passed. And I don't know what it is, but it's like I have to do it, you know? I think that it's your parents are both performers. Yes, I think so too. And I was always like, I'm not acting. Like, sorry, but there's no way. Like, I always pushed that away. I was like, I'm never acting. My parents forced me to go to this acting school called Yada and Sariata. but I hated you. And like I really did so much. That was horrible.

And it gave me so much anxiety. And I was like, no, I'm not doing this. And then growing up, everyone would say, do you want to be in the industry bubble? And I'm like, no, like, but I didn't know what I wanted to be. I just knew that like I either wanted to be a therapist or like I wanted to do something else that was artistic. So you moved to New York and you went to New York two model? No. I moved to New York because my dad went to Yale.

My brother went to Princeton. My dad's family went to Stanford. Wow. I went to New York because- What a bunch of dummies. I know. They're so stupid. I went to New York because I was like, I, you know, like, I just got to be the kid that gets, you know, goes to school.

Like, my dad was always, I went on my first tour to Yale when I was 11. I met the dean of Yale, okay? 11. And here I am. Like, I'm so not into school. Like, no. No and no. And so anyways, my sister got into NYU.

she moved to New York like my family my parents were so excited like oh my god Delilah's going to NYU this is crazy like the girl had D's in high school like worst you know we're surprised but anyways and she did her fuck does that happen and she did it herself she like cleaned her act up and was just like you know and she studied for the SATs like no tomorrow and I watched her like kill herself over it so I was like okay I'm not going to take the SATs but I will apply to the new school because like that's that was always like my dream school and I could study psychology. at the same time, take classes at Parsons for fashion, blah, blah, blah. I get there and, like, it's great and all, but I'm in the midst of Fashion Week. I have a psych, I have a psych paper due.

I have to turn in so much homework for, like, my English class. I have to read and write, like, a five-page essay. And, like, I am in the middle of Fashion Week, meaning I'm waking up at 7 a.m. And I'm going to bed at three in the morning. Like, I literally eat, I'm going to eat my dinner at one in the morning and then I'm going to get in bed completely exhausted, exhausted after wiping my makeup off for 30 minutes in my bathroom, then getting in the shower. Anyways, it just really wasn't manageable. And then I would wake up and then I'd be like, oh my God. And I think I sort of had this cloud of like, you know what? Like maybe I don't need to do this come over me. And it wasn't like I ever felt superior because like I never feel better than people because we're all equal. But it was more

I just thought, do I really need to be investing my time? So I need to be spending my own money on this school thing. I never saw myself graduating too. I was like, I'm going to go for my parents' sake, make them happy. But like, I'm not doing the full four years. I always knew that. So then I was just kind of like, what's the point? Though I do regret moving back. I really couldn't handle it. I was in a really deep, dark place in my life. And I didn't realize that. Right after I moved home, I got diagnosed with like depression and anxiety and I went on Lexa Pro, which has just like changed my life so, so much. And I was super anti- antidepressants for a long time. But then I learned about some cool things in my site class for the month that I was there. And then I was open to them and they've changed my life. Now I could one year later, I could for sure see myself being there again. But even with everything that's going on in the world with coronavirus, you wish that you were back there. No, no, no, no, no. If the world was back to normal. It's been a year since I. I tried. I was most definitely not ready. Since then, I've lived on my own twice. I lived at the AKAA, which is right there. I'm kind of sad. I miss it there. And um, um, is that one with the big,

like balcony by, is it by equinox? Yeah, it's, well, it's like that blue one over there that like has the weird windows and is the weird shape, you know? That looks cool. Yeah, it was really nice. You know, I was living a luxurious life. And then I was like, you know, probably shouldn't be paying for this. Like, this is a lot of money for nothing. So then I moved in with my sister. But Anyways, I just, I was sitting there in my new apartment in New York that I was so blessed to have, just having a panic attack. Like, oh my God, I'm growing up. Why am I living alone?

Oh, my God. Like, just freaking out. And now, like, today I was having a shower getting ready to come here. And I was thinking because I got like a memory on my Snapchat of like one year ago today. I was in New York. And I was like, ew, like, why did I think all these things? Like, why was I so stressed out about growing up? Like, no, I was like unwell.

That's maybe because you now are on the Lexphone. You have clarity. and you can look back on it. Yeah, but I just think it was such a big jump for me to, like, not only move out of my parents' house, but, like, move out of, you know, the state that I've been living in my whole entire life and just, like, start a new life. Like, oh, I didn't know. Are your parents happy that you're back here?

Very happy. And they were so supportive. I mean, I thought my dad, the Yale guy, you know, was going to be like, are you fucking getting me? Like, you've only been there for a month, blah, blah, blah. He was like, yeah, come home. Your dad seems so chill on the show. We need a little bit more hairy on the show.

Can you push him in front of the camera? No, he won't do it. He doesn't want to do it. Okay, I told you this earlier, but did you know that your mother taught me how to give a blow job with the coin? And she taught me and she taught my sister. Yes. Yeah, she honestly. I don't think you need to teach that to.

I honestly don't need to know. Tell how the dips are. Out of ten, how good's my blow job. No, it's a ten. It's a ten. No, I think it's a fucking 11. I put the fucking ring on it. It's true.

Should I thank your mom? Should I send her a thank you card? The last time I gave you one, you said, are you the who? Lisa Renna. Thank you so much. Let's sell Lisa Renna's book out. So this is a vintage book from the 90s. It's vintage.

I got it off Amazon when I saw Lisa Renna back on the housewives. I was like, oh, she has a book called like renovation. Wait, this is from the 90s where it's from like 2004. Maybe 2004. Oh. It's from a while ago. It's old. It's vintage.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your mom's on the cover like in her like hot workout. It's like purple, right? She's looking so hot. It's a blue background. She's like giving like a little shoulder till. And I was like, oh, I can't wait to get like all her fitness and diet secrets. And then I want to blog about it because this is when I didn't have a podcast.

I want to blog about it on the skinny confidential. I get the book. And there's a whole chapter dedicated to blow drops. And I'm like getting out my fucking neon pink highlighter. And it's like, she's like, I am about to give you the tip to giving head. And she's like the literal tip. So what you want to do is you want to do. The literal tips.

The coin. Stop, stop, stop, stop. And you guys have to pick up the book to read the rest of what the coin is. You really do. Yeah, I'm not going to tell you what the coin is. You have to go read the book. Let's sell out the book. This podcast is just full of resources.

Yeah, I feel like I'm doing the Lord's work. No, she honestly should have thought through like where she kept her books. I remember it was like one summer. We have a house in Canada on the lake and my sister comes in our room. She's like, Amelia, guess what I just found? And I'm like, I'm like, what? I don't know. maybe I was like 10, right?

That sounds about right. And Delilah is like 13 and she's like, guess what I just found? And I'm like, oh God, I don't know. And she's like, want to know how to give a blow job? And I was like, okay. And she was like, okay, and then we start reading it. And then we realize, holy shit, this is our mom telling how to give a blowjob.

But my sister, when she was 19, she was like, yeah, like, I'm pretty sure she was like the blowjob queen in high school. Sorry, dad. Hope you're not listening. Listen, he put a ring on it. You have to be good at giving a blowjob. That's a skill that I sharpened on a day-to-day basis. See, I'm just not really a sexual person.

I wish I was, but I'm just not. It probably has something to do with my hormone stuff and things like that. I'm just like not. But you have a boyfriend. I do have a boyfriend. So how do you guys make it work? Is he more sexual than you are? Well, it's not that like one of us is more sexual than the other.

I just feel like I don't need sex in my life. Like I'm not like, I don't always crave it. And I'm not like, you know, the first one to make the move all the time, which is like the biggest thing we need. We always have to work on in our relationship is like, I need to work on, you know, making the first move. And I just lack that. I don't know. I think that's really self-aware. No, it is.

And I work on it all the time. Well, I brought you coconut oil lube all over the table. Oh, I want you to know. This is his favorite thing in the home tower. Okay. We'll send him. No, this is all for you. This is all for you.

I brought you all the coconut oil lobe. Wait. What's your boyfriend's name? What are these pink ones? Those are freshies. That's for aftersack. You can clean up. Yeah, you'll him, whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. His name's Mercer. That's a cute name. I love him so much. Where did you guys meet? Tell us all the details. That is a cool name. It is, right?

We met. I had just broken up with my former boyfriend and I was like ready to be an independent bitch. And then I just like was at my sister's apartment. One day she was out of town and I like had my a few friends over and my one of my best friends, Nick was like, I'm going to bring my friend Mercer over. And I was like, okay, like fine. Like we were literally just watching a movie. And then like, I don't know if you've ever had this feeling, but like when he walked in, I don't even think I like registered what he looked like. I was just like him. Like that's the one. Like I didn't even have a conversation with him or anything. It was almost like his energy and like his aura was just like affecting me. And I'm like not really one to say aura. I don't even think I've ever said that in my whole entire life. But it really happened. Like I was like, whoa.

Then I like stalked him. He's just like a normal kid. He went to Beverly. Very normal. He has six siblings, five siblings. They own fat burger. And now Johnny Rockets, which is dope for them. And just like the most.

I love Johnny Rockets. Great milk shows. Oh, great. It's going to be good again. They're going to get it. I love Johnny Rockets. Let's go there. Maybe Mercer will hook it up.

milkshake. Oh, yeah. You can afford you. Wait, also, did you know Fat Burger has Craig's vegan milkshakes? I feel like you'd be interested in that. Oh my God. Are you serious? Yeah. Craigs is like doing all the strategic partnerships. I know. Like, that's so random. I think I said that same. I thought for a second, I think Lauren had that same aura, but then I was thinking maybe it was just your kids. Oh, you're saying I had a good aura when I walked in the room. I hit you in the face. And then I thought maybe it wasn't aura. Maybe it was just those canons. Do you like having big boobs? Because I hated it. I have always had big boobs ever since I I was little, but I wanted bigger ones.

So I got implants at 18. Really? They were fine before. Literally the day I graduated, the day after I got them. I saved up all my money all through high school. And the day I graduated, I both be a point. You knew. Like, I knew. And then after I got them, I had to get them redone again 10 years later.

Do I like it? I don't, I think that eventually I will get them taken out and get fat from another area into my tits. That's like the new thing. Like, why not? But, you know, when she got pregnant, it was out of control. I don't think they were that big when I got pregnant. I'm telling you, I was worried about myself.

I was like, if one of these things hits me, I could be out cold. I didn't think they were that big. But that's also because you're wearing like the maternity bras, right? And you're like, you're like, you're like, don't nursing. Someone needs to make like new bras. What do you mean? I wear them every day. A nursing bra?

Yeah. Well, this one's actually my skims one. Why? I like skims. That's what I'm wearing too. Michael's going to pop a boat. Taylor, are you okay? Taylor, you have a pulse?

Taylor's sweating back there. No, like I mean, Taylor's eyes are popping. I'm literally wearing a sports bra. Honestly, I'm really starstruck that Taylor's in the room. Like, I hear a lot about Taylor. Taylor, did you say hi? Hi, Taylor. Really?

Oh, wait. That's the quickest he's ever gotten. Let me tell you something. I've been, I mean, it's an ongoing like probably beat to death joke on this. I'm like, why is the mic never on? This guy never goes on. I'm like, of course you come on. And the mic is like, I just didn't know that you would have long hair, Taylor.

He's been waiting to chime in. I haven't had a haircut in a while, but it's, I'm, I'm, I'm sick of it. I just really didn't picture you like this. Do you like him with long hair? I don't know you otherwise, but I like it. Oh, she likes it. Oh, now he's never going to go. He's going to go out to his fucking asshole now. Maybe I'll keep it long. You know, I don't look good today.

He's texting his barber right now saying cancel the appointment. He's so excited. Okay, so a lot of girls wrote in about your beauty secrets. Let's start with your skin. Okay. I'm on my period currently. Sorry for the TMI. But when I'm on my period, I feel like because my, thyroid. I don't know if you feel this, but because my hormones are already kind of fucked up,

like, I just feel like my period hits me hard, like really hard. That's why I was such a bitch last week. Yeah. No. Like, it started to hit me really hard to the point where I had to up my lexapro dose 10 milligrams every time I'm on my period. Like it hits me hard. Not only hormonal but like really emotionally. Like when I'm like Mercer, I am so sorry. Like I just need four days. Like give me four days and then I'm back. I always text him. what I'm going to say. I call him and I'm like, I'm really sorry. I'm going to be shitty for the next four days. I'm really sorry. But that's that. And then he's like, I know. I get it. Also, he has two sisters and like grew up right next to his sister and him are 22 months apart. This motherfucker

motherfucker has two sisters and he doesn't give me a fucking break. I don't know. Shit. What's go. You know what? Lorne waits. Lorne does the opposite. She waits till day four and I was like, oh, by the way, this whole time. Also like my dad grew up with just girls in the house. Like I mean like my sister, my mom, my fish, my dogs, like just girls. And so he'd he'd always be like, oh guys like you gotta really explain to your boyfriends like you know you know like that's about it like you know you got to really tell them and he'd always be like like when I was like maybe 15 and got my period he was like are you PMS saying like I know you are and like he just made it so normal but at the same time was like men don't know how to handle this so like we need to talk about this

like and he like really taught me how to like have that conversation that's a good actually a good really really smart well because like if you think about it like no man ever is going to know not only what we feel when we have our periods. And I'm not like being like, you know, that crazy feminist right now, but like no guy knows what that feels like. I don't know about you, but I get the worst back cramps ever. Like, oh my God, they hurt so bad. I have to take prescription ibuprofen. It's like 600 milligrams. It's crazy. And all my, all the women in my family steal it from me. And I just get like, I'm the biggest bitch. No, they fucking take their dick out of their, out of the little like little hole where they unzip their,

fly. They piss around. They stick it back in there. They don't even wipe with tola paper. I know. They shove the balls back in and then they don't, hold on. Hold on. They don't even wash their hand. I know. They slap it under the water for a second. Wipe it on their gene and fucking close the door and touch the door handle. Let me tell you where you're wrong. Do you think that us guys go and pull our dick and balls out at the same? You pull the whole thing out. Okay, wait, I have a question. Sure. I asked my boyfriend the other day. We were talking about underwear. I just like love to sleep in his Calvin Klein's and he got sick of it because I was stealing them and I'm like. Boxers, briefs. Whitey tidies?

No. What's the whitey tighties? Like the little, the thong one. Not everyone wears the whitey tities that you wear. No, sometimes it is. Wait, actually do you?

I'm sorry. Most of the briefs. It's not my sister's way behind thongs. No, you know what I'm talking about. No, but like, you know like the closer. The speed of one. Yeah, but like yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So no. Like I just like the baggy ones, whatever. But like he has like a little bit tighter ones. Like Bruce. Yeah. And I was stealing them.

But then I was like, No, I'm going to order myself some boxers because I like to sleep all loose and nice. Anyways, he got mad at me for stealing them. So anyways, I was like, so what is this hole? Like, well, let me explain to you. Wait, wait. So then I'm like, what is this whole? Like, can you, I go, can you please show me how you pee?

And he's like, he's like, you want to see how I pee? Like what? And I was like, yeah, like, can you pretend that you're like at your urinal right now? Yeah. And pee. They don't even use the hole. Well, hold on. It depends.

Sometimes like, these ones are button flies. I'm going to pay attention to this. So you better say it right. These are button flies, so I got to rip the whole thing out and let it go. But I don't pull, nobody pulls the balls out unless, unless they're. No, but like, do you really just like take your penis out of, and just put it through the hole of your underwear? I feel like you flop it over the fucking Calvin Klein.

No, it depends. It depends what they can. But yeah, you pull it through the hole sometimes you go over the, sometimes you go over the hedge. Sometimes you go through. Okay, but what about the little zipper hole? Like, do you stick it out of there? That's why I'm not a big fan of the zipper. I'm a button fly guy because the zipper can get caught.

You are a zipper. I've seen you with a zipper. I don't like this. I've seen your dick popping out as a zipper. You know something about Mary moment. With the zipper, though, I pulled the whole thing and I'll let it go. But I don't, with the button fly, I can pull it through the whole. It's like, I don't need to see you pee.

Like, I don't need to see like a limp tad hole. It's so horrible, isn't it? Every time boys take and nature being like, I have to bring in three or four people to help me get it out. Oh, right, right. I forgot. Taylor, Taylor, are you more of a boxer person? I've never used the hole ever. Right?

I pulled the shaft out. But again, I don't pull the balls out. I want to tell you something. I think you're the only guy I've ever come across that uses the hole. No, you don't use the hole. And then the zipper you don't. Then you open the whole thing. Can you give us the tutorial right now?

The hole from your boxers. Oh, I thought you about the jeans. No, because like you know how women. Okay. Okay. Do you stick your penis out of the hole of the boxer? No, no, no. I can't wait for your partners to hear this.

What do you do? Hold on. I want everyone to listen to this. So I sometimes I open the top of the floor. And then I flop it out from the top over the box. Okay, but here's my thing. I thought you guys don't use toilet paper. You're all going to say you do.

You fucking fling it back in. Wait, can we talk about the drips of pee that happened? People don't, people have not mastered the shake. You got to get it to shake. Oh, the shake is even grosser. I'm like literal projectile vomiting. Don't come near me with your fucking penis for like a week. But listen, they don't have toilet paper at the urinal.

What do you mean? This is true. There's no, you think there's a toilet paper thing at the urinal? So you guys all shake your fucking piss against the urinal and you all just have Shaked piss that you guys are spreading coronavirus. Yeah, but also, like, is it normal for a guy to use a urinal? Because I ask my boyfriend, too. Like, do you just stand next to someone and just like, you know, like, yay?

It's a little, it's a little. Like, I would look. I'm not a fan. Any girl would look. Do you look? Listen, I know, it's a like a, it's a like a known, what am I, what's the word I'm looking for? It's like a known rule.

Like you don't look. Like, you've copped. No, but like guys don't like take showers together or go pee together. So we have to remember that. I don't want to speak for. I don't know. I don't know. I feel Taylor used to do circle jerk.

Like if Taylor, you've for sure done a fucking circle. Here's how it works. Taylor and I both went in there at the same time. Yeah. You keep eyes straight ahead. Taylor's eyes are all over the place. I don't buy it. No, I honestly, I swear to guys.

You don't swivel around. Because people look at you. And what would happen if you did swivel around? When you get like beat up? Well, I don't, I think it depends who it is. It's some purve you might be. How do you know these rules? It's unspoken rules.

It is for men. Like, men aren't like, oh my God. Like, we need to go to the bathroom. Like, if I went in the bathroom. If I went in and there was some stranger and I was just like, hey, buddy. I just can't believe that you guys are all in the urinal shaking off your pee. We're helicopter. That is not.

That is not a cat, Terry. And then you guys think that you don't have to wash your hands. No, I wash the hands. You wash them every time. Taylor is such a liar. You know, when you think about it, like men actually have to touch, you know, their things to pee women. All we do is take the toilet paper on white.

They're actually touching something. You're touching your balls and your penis. Well, sometimes if you're. get a good flop, you can just flip it over and you don't have to touch anything, you just let it hang down. Just when you guys think that you weren't going to learn every single thing on the skinny confidential him and her, surprise you are. Now you know how guys piss.

You know what I think about? What do you think about? Like we're sitting here and like sometimes these things get picked up by publications. Imagine if they just picked up like, hey, this guy's like flop. Do they really? He's just going to flop it over the thing. Oh my God. Okay.

Wait, I need to check my notes while you're asking you a question. I'm sure this. Was this in your notes? Was this talking about? This was number one and it's crossed off. now. Okay. I'm glad we got that. We are so good with your answer. Anything else you guys want to know before we move on? Okay. So I want to know your skin tips because we started getting on four skin tips and we don't need to know about four skin tips. That was really good. We need to

know about your skin tips. Wow. Wow. What a transition. That was really good. I swear by keeping it simple. When I was 12th, I had like really bad like bumps on my forehead. I wouldn't call it cystic acne. Bumps on my forehead. Bumps on my forehead bumps on my chest. chest bumps on my back until I was like 16 and then went to Coachella everything good happens at Coachella for me clearly went to Coachella and got like the worst breakout of my whole entire life on my chest and on my back I wouldn't go on set for so long I was so self-conscious I would literally cry myself to sleep like when I say bumps I literally mean like thousands of bumps down my back down my chest like why we didn't know and I was

always super lucky to, like, not have acne on my face. And the only times I really get that acne is, like, altitude or hormones or if I'm, like, using a face wash that my skin is too sensitive for. So, yeah, crazy bumps. And I thought it was the end of the world. Like, I thought I was going to die like this. And I was so depressed. And I had never really truly grasped how acne can, like, make you depressed because I just never had it. So anyways, that happened. Went back to my friendly man at Cedra-Sinai special disease control situation. He gave me like this really retro like wash to use. It like didn't work at all. So after multiple visits of the doctor, I started washing my chest and back with necessary body wash. I love that body wash. Eucalyptus cleared my whole entire skin. And

I always praise them. Like, I don't know what's in your body wash or what's not in it, but it literally changed my life. Necessaer. You need to sponsor. No, it changed my whole entire life. From the body scrubs to the lotion to the body wash to literally everything. And then, like, there's a brand that you can get from Amazon. Like, necessary takes a little bit longer to come.

And, like, I feel like I have to really plan it out. Like, when my bottle's going to be done. There's this brand called Native. I use their deodorant. It's like the only healthy deodorant that works on me. I know you have your ginger one, but I don't know how I feel about it ginger deodorant. It's so good. I don't know.

I'll have to smell it. Mine is coconut vanilla. But anyways, native brand also works pretty well because I find with me I had to eliminate sulfates and parabins. I don't really even know what a sulfate and paraben is. I just know that my skin doesn't like them. And then I use biologic reshiche. I'm not going to pretend to speak French. Logic. Wait, is that the one that has the P-50? Yeah. Yeah, I like that brand. So I use let you. I use let-e-v. These are all

face washes. And I use let-v-o-2. I use all those face washes and I alternate. The let-e, the let-you is super, like, dense and creamy. And what it is, is like, this is scary, but it's kind of oil-based. And just to give you a little background of how we found this brand, my sister, Delilah, is actually on acutane because she has really bad cystic acne. And I'm kind of afraid that I'm getting you. it now too because I've never really had like this situation. You do not have you like no I do and then there's one between my eyebrows and like I just don't know how to handle it when it happens and like I don't have the right concealer and like I'm sitting there in my bathroom today and I'm like oh my god like what am I supposed to do what concealer are you wearing right at this moment I'm wearing do your back stage okay

or air I don't know and then I'm wearing Ilya on top of that and then you said you would talk about your brows and the lamination. I wanted to get my brows laminated. Why don't you like it? Okay. Wait, let me show you what I use. I carry it with me because my brows are so insane. I literally have to carry it with me.

Your brows are so gnarly. I love it. No, they're so gnarly. You need to brush your brows up like that. You look like an old man. No, but like men can do this. No, that was wrong. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

That was about his wrong. The way you just brushed him up is about how you put your penis back after you do you want to see my eyebrows brush like that? No, like literally. How do I do it? Oh. You can't do it. that.

You just got Botons too. You can't do that. I love that you get Botox. I mean, I know what she does. She tricks me. She's like, hey, you're just going to get a little touch with.

Next thing I know, I'm just getting jammed. If I ever did that to my boyfriend. Okay, let me do like a little tutorial. Give me some time. He'll be doing it. Yeah, give us a tutorial. I might film this. Okay.

I got to go to my camera. Okay. So this is what I do. I take this keratin restore mascara or soap brows. Okay. Then you just kind of. brush her up in little strokes.

Okay. You don't want it to be like too perfect though because like it's your eyebrows. But it really is all about like getting this section. I like when women have a thick brow. Yeah. I love a thick brow. You just, it really doesn't matter about the middle section.

You want one of those like thin like. No, I don't like those little skinny things. Great. Now I'm going to probably get shit for that. This guy said doesn't like skinny. It's going to, you need like a brush like this.

Okay. And you can either get. What's the brand? Is that brand? I don't know. This is some random brand. Okay, I'm going to take a picture of it because people are going to ask. Yummy lashes or something.

I don't know. I usually use Anastasia, but you know what I realized? Yummy Lashes lashes, lashes, carotene restore mascara. With Anastasia's brow gel, what happens to my eyebrows is they get really, like, hard and, like, crispy. Taylor, calm it down back there. Taylor just ejaculated. It was an essential description. They get really crispy.

and I'm not about it. I'm really not. So this is like nice and flimsy with the brows, you know. Kind of like your penis after you pee. Or during your feet. We're never going to like she's, we have a two hour car right after this and she's going to. Four hours. What do you live?

We got to go to San Diego. We got to go to San Diego. So I'm sorry. You flew home from Aspen this morning. No. No. Yesterday. Yesterday.

Oh, I was going to say you flew home from Aspen. You sat on your couch or did whatever like, two seconds. Then you're here and now you're going to drive to San Diego. Do you want to know what I've done today? I woke up at 10, sat on my couch till 2, took a shower and came here. How old are you? I'm 19. You're 19. I didn't know you were 19. You seem so much more mature. Well, I thought you were 21. See, this is why I don't like telling people my age. You're 19? It's because it gets very uncomfortable. Oh my, no, it's not uncomfortable at all. I love that you're 19. Like, I don't, I don't know, like, why I'm different. I just really, I didn't know. I just saw Taylor's head like literally fly over the

He just got up and left. Taylor, are you okay? He's scared. Don't worry, Taylor. I was adjusting my belt. Don't worry, Taylor. It's not illegal anymore. We have a defibrillator back there just in case you got to revive this guy.

What if she said she's 17 after we had this conversation? I did not know you were 19. If you said you were 17 every had this conversation, I'd rip the fucking power lines out of the wall. No, I know. I know. I'd be on the phone of lawyers. You act 21. Well, all my friends.

So my best friend is 31. My other best friend is. like 25. So you have older friends. You're an older soul. Yeah. And like we all have this ongoing joke. Like it's not illegal anymore because like I mean, you know, it's weird because like even when I was 15 like waiters at restaurants thought I was like 25. Like I didn't even have to have a fake your energy is more mature. I can't explain it. And my parents have this ongoing joke too that like they got my sister and my birth certificates screwed up because like it very well could have happened because my sister was born June 10th, 1998. And I was.

born June 13th, 2001, but my due date was June 10th and her due date was June 13th. That's weird. And right? And my parents always had this ongoing joke of like, Delilah is 19 or however old I was at the time. And Amelia is 22. Like, this is wrong. This is incorrect.

Your parents are going to love that Taylor and Michael and I had a conversation about how to take a piss at the urinal. No, like, what do you mean? I learned how to give a blow job when I was 12. Like, or 10. I don't know. I don't need Harry Hamlin on my tail. No, no, no, no, trust me.

You know why? Because you know why I don't want your dad on my tail? Why? Because he's such a handsome man that I would never, ever dream of defending myself if he was again. No, you know what? I feel like, I would never touch that place. He has this flow going on that you have and he would really appreciate yours. You guys are very similar looking.

You have similar features. You guys do kind. I can see that. When you had friends over, all they did was just stare at your dad. Well, don't forget her mom. No, that's weird. No, my mom was definitely the mill. Nobody stared at my dad.

people's moms. People's moms just told me, I'm obsessed with your dad. Like, I used to have your dad's poster. I don't care. Anyone says. That's a little weird. But like my dad's 70 now. Did you know that? So like it's different. Your dad looks good for something. He's like a fucking Benjamin Buzz. He's never, he's never, he's fucking fine wine. He's never gotten Botog. That's also why I'm like, that'd be crazy if my dad called Botoc. He looks great. Like, I'm a fan. He says it's because he doesn't wash his face. Clear the record right now on the podcast. Do you care that your mom dances on Instagram? And before you answer. I'm going to say this.

I love that your mom dances on Instagram. And if I'm not dancing on Instagram and doing that like when Zaza's your age, then just shoot me. I want to dance on Instagram. You know what? It doesn't even cross my mind. Like I said, my mother used to walk downstairs with her tits out and her butt out when my friends would be over, boy or girl, it didn't matter what friend was there.

Now she's dancing with her bikini on. That's just lovely. But I'm so sorry. And I'm trying not to be a bit. about it, but it really gets you worked up because, like, my mom is such a genuinely sweet and loving soul. And she would never do anything to hurt a fly. And I think being a mother and, like, being told by the world that you're the reason that your child went through the hardships that she did. Like, that's not going to be easy on anyone. Like, imagine if, like, Zaza went through

something and, like, you were solely to blame. Like, that's not true. And so I think it just, like, really breaks my heart when people blame it on her because, you know, it really isn't her fault that she was born in such a slim figure. Like, literally all of the photos in our house of my mom, like, she has rock solid abs. She has legs like twigs. Like, this is her. And I'm just trying to make people aware that, like, you can body shame a bigger person. And, you know, that will get more attention versus you can also body shame a skinnier, slimmer person. And that won't be, you know, something that gets registered in people's brains as body shaming. And so like, because I, you know, decided to come out about my eating disorder, like I have, I feel like I have to now not only

support my mom and make sure people know and like are aware that that's not really how it happens. At least that didn't happen for me. Like your mom is not the cause of like my mom's skinny body and something that, you know, like Garcell said to me was like, or said about me was like, you know, if I was her like these videos of you dancing because you're so skinny would make me feel bad. And then I take it as like, wow, like, am I that much bigger than my mom to the point where I have to feel bad because she's so skinny? And like, yeah, I don't have any disorder anymore. But like I did. And I do think that like I still get moments of like, you know, the mindset.

that I had when I had my eating disorder or moments of like, well, that was so mean. Like, am I fat? Like, am I really that much larger than my mom? Like, I never really saw it as that. Like, you're not comparing yourself to your mother. I don't know. Who compares to their mom? I listen to that.

I watched that show when Lauren has it on. I get drawn in. I thought that was a cheap shot. I was I don't like when Garcelle did that. There's a whole, like, sort of like thing right now where it's like against them. And I think that I like Garcia. I think she's one of the more like reasonable and she's up front and she's like candid. But I thought that was kind of really, it threw me off.

And it was just kind of like, look, I get it, that you're the new housewife. But like, you don't need to bring in a story that you probably know nothing about. Like, mind you, she's probably never even read my post on my story. She's never, I've never even met her. So she and I haven't had a conversation about how I actually felt. So to bring that up and blame it on my mom, my mom already has to deal with so much blame and guilt regardless. So for someone that, you know, is supposed to be her friend and supportive to say that. and catch her off guard, it's like, you can, you know, you can be so confident in like everything

you do in life. But then it's like someone tells you one thing. Like you're going to just listen to that one bad thing versus like all the little good things. So it made me feel sad. About those shows. Because like, you know, Lauren and I have been, we've had conversations about like, would we ever participate in something like that? And most of my answer is like, pretty much is like straight like hell no in the beginning. Because with something like, my dad has his divorce, divorce lawyer on speed dial. Like that was a thing when my mom was signing up for the show was like, I remember when they first came to my mom to be on. My dad was like, absolutely not. Like, I swear to God, I will divorce you. Yeah. I mean, because with something like

this and why like podcast, the medium, one, we control it. But two, like, you can't have this link. We have a conversation in a show like that. It's just, it's not, it wouldn't be snappy enough. It wouldn't get enough. And they take those little moments of, you know, when we ask you how to take your penis out to pee or, you know, like versus like the actual, exactly. And then it just becomes this thing of like just craziness. But where I empathize with the people that go on these shows, like here we can just keep going and going along conversation. But where I empathize with people that have those, to do those shows is you kind of, like,

to your point, you enter as a new character. And if you're not getting ratings or attention, you're kind of like out. So you kind of in a way, like, I got to come in here and bring the heat or else like I'm going to become irrelevant. And so I think what happens is people, you know, maybe they get in these situations like, shit, I'm not performing, I'm not performing. I'm going to say something wild. And I get it that like it's, that is something that goes down with reality TV.

They need to sit one up the next person. You know that you have to present something. Otherwise, there's no point for you to be paid to be on this show. Like, it's not about how nice you are to your friends. Like, it's about drama. So I get that aspect. But like, don't bring me into it. And then like when I get brought into it, I just get flooded with comments comparing

me to other models that like I do truly look up to. But it's like, when can that just be let go? How do you deal with like a really horrible internet troll? My mom just taught me to block them. I just block them. Your mom's kind of iconic how she deals with. Well, that's what's hard about like the housewebs because your mom is like just been herself or so like that's what I'm saying. I heard her for years like on Howard Stern.

I think I swear to God I think I did. I'm sure you did. And she is ringing a bell. She's been the same person forever and like she brings that energy to everything. Like probably on and off camera. And so what happens is these other women come on like shit, I got to compete with Lisa Renna. I better say something. And like it gets to a place like maybe you say something in order to compete.

with that energy that you don't want to say, but you feel the pressure of like, shit, I need to perform for these cameras. But I also feel like there's so much more good than there is bad, especially with like my mom and our family. I feel like we present and have a lot better feedback than bad feedback. So it's really important to remind yourself like when you do accidentally because like it's kind of inevitable. Like it's not like, first of all, I don't spend my days, you know, hanging out with all my friends

are like normal by the way. Like I don't hang out with anyone that's famous. Like I don't spend my days being like, oh my God, can you take an Instagram? Put it me like this. Like, oh my God, can you do this? So like I'm not scrolling through my Instagram treating it like my job. I'm scrolling through it like how all my other friends are scrolling through it. So if I accidentally, you know, scroll through my Instagram and I see a really shitty comment, I'm going to read it. And then that's all that's going to be playing in my head. And then I'm going to get lost in this cycle and I'm going to start reading everything. And then like, I have a tip. It's a really good thing to distinguish. So I have a tip. So I decided one night at 3 a.m. to go on Michael's phone and type in Chihuahua, Chihuahua, Chihuahua, all in his Google, in his search bar.

I said the word Chihuahua, Chihuahua. I love Chihuahua was 100,000 times in his phone. So he's been served for the last three years with only Chihuahua accounts. So what you should do. It's so annoying. Wait, actually. Yeah. No, no girls, no porn. My feed will sometimes just be chihuahua. And I'll find myself following things. How did you think? How did you think? How do you think? How do you? do things to do this? I don't know. I just have weird. That's a little scary. Thank you. That's a tip for everyone. You could do ferrets. You could do sea monkeys, whatever your heart desires. Anyways, I like those. What you should do is you should go to your phone and you should say and type into Google and into your search bar. So what do you have? So for me, like I want to like, like I like to consume accounts like Melissa would help or like just positive accounts.

You know, if I have a friend I really like, I'll type her name in, like a hashtag I really like. I type it in so I'm only served content that's like, you know, recipes or like how to brush your brow up, like just stuff that's not negative. Yeah. And I think it's so hard because there is so much comparison in this industry. And then like, you know, a lot of the times I'll find myself and I'm just like, you know, like it's been four years of me like trying to be like this high fashion model. Like do I just give up? Like is that, you know, am I in? You're 19. You have so much time. I know. But then I'm like, like, am I on the rest of? I. I'm like, am I on the rest of? right path for myself. And then I had a conversation with my friend last night. I was feeling kind of down.

And she was like, where you are is where you're supposed to be. And you cannot compare yourself to the Kylie Jenner's of the world who are 23 and have a billion dollars in their bank account. Like you just can't because it's just not reality. And you are where you're supposed to be. And that's that. I just think it's really hard being compared to situations that I'm not close to. and I'm working very hard to get to. It's like people think that I am and I'm just like not. Like I'm just trying to be my own person, write my own story, you know, do my own thing. Yet it's always a comparison.

But I think I have to always remind myself like, yes, this is one bad comment, but like there's so many more good. And like I don't usually get a lot of hate. Like I am right now because the housewives and I will tomorrow because I tell Garcel to fuck off. But like, yeah. But, you know, so I just have to remind myself. Like it's fine. Like, you know, you're a really nice person. And I always, like, in my notes, I wrote this for today.

Like, my motto is kill them with kindness. Like, I think it's the most attractive thing ever to be kind. I'm nice to pretty much everyone unless you've done something really bad to me. The thing about me is that I'm just really shy when you first meet me. So I really do come off as a bitch. I just, I am. Like, I'm really shy. And so I think that's what's hard for me.

It's like everyone thinks I'm just like the biggest bitch in the world because I'm just so shy. But that's the, that's the, that's the, whole thing with like life. They're showing like five seconds of your life on housewives and there's so much more to it that people need to understand. Robert Green is one of my favorite authors and he was on this podcast yesterday and he says that we're so used to comparing ourselves to what everyone else is doing and what we tend to do is we compare ourselves to people that are ahead of us. And he says, when is the last time that you compared yourself to someone who's not ahead of you? Never. So when never. That's crazy. Never. And he said start doing that. So what he said,

is he had a stroke. So he used to go outside after his stroke and he would say, oh my God, look at that guy riding his bike. Look at that guy running. Gosh, this sucks that I can only walk. And then one day he went outside and you said, wow, look at that guy in the wheelchair. He can't use his legs. Look at that old man that's on the ventilator, you know, sitting over on the hospital. Well, I mean, I've done that. But it's not like a constant thing. Like, you know, you're more inclined to compare yourself to like what you don't have. So I think. If that gives you some perspective. The problem with that, though, line of thinking, I agree with Lauren's life.

But the problem with comparing yourself to something you don't have is that it's a never-ending cycle. Exactly. Have you heard experience stretching? I forget who, it was on Tim Ferriss's show and he had, oh my God, I'm going to forget. And I've talked about it here before. It's not from me, but I heard it. I'm like, oh, that's really interesting. So like experience stretching the idea is like one day you're sitting there and you see the most beautiful sunset in the world and you look to your right,

person you're with like, wow, this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It can't get much better than this. life is the best. Then a year later, you're seeing like same sunset, maybe you have a nice glass of wine and you're in the south of France. Like, wow, can't get better than this. Then like a year later, you're on a yacht, same sunset, glass of wine. It can't get better than this. And then a year later, like, maybe you see that same sunset and it's the original setting. And you're like, wow, this is depressing. I hate this. So the thing that used to make you the happiest actually ends up making you the saddest. So it's like doing cocaine and trying to get the first high. Yes. And it's,

so what the problem is is when you're comparing all the time and looking ahead, looking ahead, like you can't get to a place you're happy because there's always going to be something that you want more and more and that's how I catch myself a lot when I'm just alone and I'm in my feels or when I'm taking my morning walks. I like to just put my AirPods in and listen to my skinny confidential his and hers really quickly because sometimes I don't want to get caught up in my thoughts that are kind of negative and self-sabotaging and you know my mom always always emphasize like don't feel bad feel grateful. I don't even really know what this means, but she was always like, you know, when Delilah or myself, we'd be like, oh, you know, like, I really feel bad, blah, blah, she would just always say, don't feel bad,

feel grateful. As long as you're grateful, then you have nothing to feel bad about, like, as long as you're grateful for everything you have in your life. You know, but that's hard to actually practice. It is a practice, though. Yeah. It's a practice that you have to do every day. You have to be aware of your thoughts. This morning I woke up, Joe Dispenza says you wake up and the first thing you think is is something negative. Yeah. So today I woke up and I almost went there. And then, And I completely turned it into a positive. But, like, you have to just be, like, aware of what you're thinking and, like, watch yourself from an outside. 100%.

Yeah, but, Lorna, it gets, I mean, you're so young. I mean, it gets better. It's not, like, we've, like, I mean, it's been a long time of us trying to. We're still, like, struggle with it. Right. When I was 19, I was literally naked on the bar dancing. Like, yeah, I could never. You're so, like, you're good.

But sometimes I'm like, do I wish I was doing that? Do I wish I was having the frat house experience? But then I'm like, no. Like, not. Not maybe not with COVID right now. I just don't think it's me and that's okay, you know? It wasn't me. I didn't do that experience.

And listen, how did you get naked on the table then? I was, I was just naked on the table because I was just in the restaurant. I was like, I was like, I had a very much like, like, well, you guys knew each other when you were 19? No, but we were 12. What? Yes. That's so flipping cute. We haven't been together the whole time.

12? Yeah. That's really cute. 12. I wasn't with him at 19 though. I was popping my purse. Puss. Like, we, that's really cute. Yeah, we, we knew each other. I worked in a restaurant, like, very much like, sir. I just started Vanderpumpurals. Dynamics of that. So that's what I mean. I,

I didn't do the whole frat thing. Michael did the frat thing. Yeah. You did the frat thing. Well, you went to Arizona. You had to. You beat the frat thing with a fucking, like a, you had to be a frat thing. I'm lucky because my boyfriend's not a frat guy. I'll tell you, I wasn't necessarily a frat guy, but I, we, I want, are you talking about you were the warden. No, but I'll tell you why. It was a different time. No, I went to Arizona and there's nothing to do. Arizona is the party school. University of Arizona.

Not the one in Tucson. So like, you went to the one in Tucson? In Scottsdale, there's a lot of shoes. The one you went to do is a bunch of shit to do. But in Tucson, when I was there, it was just like a big desert. It was not a lot to do.

Wait, the one that's party one is A. A.SU? I went to U of A. You of A as well. No, it was wild. But I'm saying you kind of had to be in a frat in order to like be in a part. There's nothing out. There's no bars.

There's no things to do. Wait, were you in Tucson? Yeah. I got lost in Tucson once. Tucson's a pretty wild place. I need to know something. Okay. What are the questions?

I want to, no, you can go on it and go down the road. We don't have all day, though. We've been going for a while. Okay. So I want to ask this question. Who is your favorite housewife and why? I guess besides your mom. A lot of people ask this.

I don't want to offend anyone. I love you all except for a few. Let's see. I would have to say to read. Oh, I think you're going to say Erica Jane. I know, but Doreet's fab. But like everyone knows that like Erica is my girl. So like I got to switch it up a little.

So I think Doreet right now is really, you know, in the league, her kids are so cute. Like all I do is just like watch her kids baking. And she's so chic and she's just so fab. And like I just feel like the time and effort she puts into all of her looks is so fascinating. And I'm like, wow. Like she's misunderstood too. When she first came on, I don't think people understood her. I mean, look, when she first came on, I was confused, too, because there was a lot going on.

I still am obsessed. Sometimes. I love a dynamic. I just, I'm obsessed with Doree. Like, I really am. And she's like so, like, I just feel like we get along. Like, they all kind of understand that I'm like not really 19 and the leader just treat me like a normal human.

I can't believe you're 18. No, I know. I know. I shouldn't have told you, honestly. Imagine how I was when I was 17 trying to go to clubs. I mean, I don't go to clubs anymore because like I outgrew that and I'm not even 21. But imagine me being like 15, 17. going to clubs being like, yeah, like, I'm 22.

Like, I feel like I've been lying about my age forever. And then, like, I got followers on Instagram and had to stop. Like, I don't even have a fake idea anymore. Taylor's probably on your Instagram right now. Honestly, my Instagram isn't good. Okay. You have to leave our audience with a book, a resource, a podcast. Okay.

That has brought you a lot of value. Intuitive eating. Okay. By Elise Reich. Ooh, this is a good one. Talk about this. She's my therapist. Okay.

My dietitian slash therapist. I only see her. Now I see her every every Tuesday, but now because of quarantine, I see her every other week. It's called intuitive eating. She has a lot of books under the umbrella of intuitive eating. And she basically was like, quote unquote,

creator of intuitive eating, which basically means just like the practice of listening to your body, whether it's full or it's hungry or it's starving or it's wanting to go on a run or if it's not wanting to go on a run or if it's, you know, it's just really listening to your body. And I think that's changed my life. Like, I used to work out and be like, oh, I don't want to go to boxing today.

Like, oh, my God. Like, I have the worst stomach ache I've ever had today. Like, ew, I'm obviously not working out. But four years ago, I probably would have because, like, God forbid, I go a Tuesday without working out. Like, it's not even the weekend. Like, that could never happen. But now it's just, I feel like a lot of the stress and cortisol has been taken off

of my body because I don't push myself and I really listen to what my body has to say, whether it's if I want to have regular pizza for dinner, if it's I want to have cauliflower pizza for dinner or, you know, whatever it is or whatever it may be, if I need that cookie or whatever, I don't think about it in like the part of my brain that's, you know, anorexic. I think about it from the part of my brain that's like, what does my body need, you know? That's exactly how you, you intuitive eat. Yeah, and I feel like you do.

Like when you talk about how you don't really care about food that much, it's just like. You don't mean. He just doesn't get the energy. I kind of stick by when it comes to these issues. Because I definitely like, I'm not an expert, but in my own life, if I guess intuitive, I only do things that like speak to my body. So if I get full, I stop eating. If I feel like a pizza, I eat a pizza. But a lot of people struggle with this because there's, you know, there's so much around food. I remember, like, I would talk to my friends and I'd be like, wow, like, I can't believe,

you know, that person just got that whole plate of pasta from Ilpastaya and they didn't eat all of it. And like, they took the rest home. Like, I was that girl that was like, scarfing it down because I restricted myself so much from ever eating those things that when it was in front of me, I had to savor the moment and like really indulge. But now that I don't have any restrictions on what I eat, you get to the table and you're like, I do feel guilty sometimes when you go to a nice place and you don't eat it. You think it's like, you don't want to say. No, but that's okay.

Yes. You're not supposed to eat everything because like you've also mentioned, the portions in America are absolutely wow. Out of control. I ordered a burger the other day. It's as big as my head. I can't believe it. That burger looked so good.

I think it's like, you know, I don't need to eat the whole thing. Yeah. I think people feel pressure because like they're like, I got to, I bought this. I got to eat it. Or like maybe they grew up in a way where like your parents forced. And like for me. And I was also listening to that. I was not forced by my parents, but by like people that we knew, a family that we knew would

force us to finish like our milk and like all of our vegetables and shit. And I think that also fucked me up. And I'm telling you, I don't know if you heard that story. Yeah, I did. When I was a kid, I just stared this dude down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I heard that story that was crazy. I could really relate to that. Yeah. No one wants to be forced to eat. So intuitive eating, great book. Okay. Listening to your body will change your life. I swear to God.

She and you should come back on the podcast together at some point. Yeah, I would love to. I would love to talk to her. She's probably very interesting. She really is. Okay. She's just a very in-depth person. And she's super cool.

And she's like 75 and like sort of hippie and like, it's cool. And you said her name is. Elise Reich. Elise Reich. Okay. Okay. So that's what you recommend. Where can everyone find you on Instagram, Twitter?

Blast yourself out. I think I'm verified on Twitter, but I don't even have the app. And I've never been on it in my whole life. I love it. So not Twitter, probably. Don't have a Facebook, but have an Instagram. It's Amelia Gray. You know, like my Instagram's really just like my portfolio.

So I don't really post that many interesting things on my life. That's why it's so fun. I feel like I do with my stories. Like I always sit down and I'm like having a rant. But like on my feed, it's not like it is yours. Like how you're just, you know, really talkative in things. Like it's pretty much just. selfies trying to get like, yeah, it's just like your portfolio.

You look pretty hot on your Instagram. Well, it's just like your portfolio. Thank you. But it's just like your portfolio. You know, like I feel like I used to post so much about the eating disorder stuff, but like I don't want to be like the girl with the eating disorder anymore. You're not going to be the poster child. I've helped a lot of people though. And I have, which feels so amazing. But it's time to recreate and move on. Renovation. Renovation, baby. It's called renovation. Yeah, we're just going to, like, move on from that.

I'm still always here to help people and I'm going to give my tips and stuff. But, like, it's time to not be Amelia Gray eating disorder. Good. Good for you. Yeah. I like it. We learned how to do the coin. Or we didn't learn how, but you can go learn how to do the coin.

Renovation. And you can go to Amelia's Instagram to see her portfolio. She looks great. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for doing this. You're a natural. Wait, can I do one of your ads? Yeah, go, go do it.

Do you know who. Woo. You never will. Okay. Wait, really quickly. I'm not paying you a single cent for that. Okay, it's fine. Really quickly before I do it.

Like, I've sat here and tried to figure out the vagina with the two balls next to it for a long time. That's what it is. That's what it is. Are you kidding? No, I'm not kidding. That's what it is. You were just like, let's do like a V with two dots next. Yeah.

Michael didn't say that. No, no. I didn't say. If it were up to you, you would have had it coming out of your like. Creatively, me, I'll tell the story. Me, Weston, Lauren, we sat around and we talked about this for forever. And like we just like spitballed all these different names and all these different things. We're like, woo, it's like Shakespearean to like woo a woman.

Yeah. Oh. It wasn't like, like we all came up with it. And then we like, okay, what looks cool? That W. It's kind of like a inverse of the W. Yeah. And then we just like the way it looks and like vagina, two balls.

Kind of funny. I've really thought this through. Okay. So Woo More Play. It's made with co. It's called Coconut Love Oil. It's made with coconut stevia. other things and you can lick it, suck it and fuck it.

And it's natural 100% taste delicious. And you can use it when you're alone or with your partner. Taylor, this is it all day long. These are the freshies that you can, you know, clean yourself or the other person. And it's great. And it's natural.

Sold. I'm going to need you sign about five release forms. Yeah, because we're 19 years old. No, but the packaging literally said. Taylor, pull all these clips and get some Facebook ads up and running. I'm just kidding. Please tell your mom, thank you for telling me about the coin. I'm blessed. Michael's blessed. Wait, when you say the coin, like you're talking about the two fingers. Yeah. Yeah.

Do you use this one? This is the one. This is how you do it. Just like this. But then like, don't you feel like your other fingers are awkward? Like they're just like sticking out like this. No one cares if they're awkward. Oh. I don't think he's ever looked at my fingers. Have you ever looked at my fingers? No, I swear to God, this has crossed my mind. Like I'm like, what am I do with these three? I don't think there's a guy in the world. It's like, man. That finger placement was a little off. Is my mind okay? These are the fingers. No one's looking at the fingers. None of us are. Taylor, have you ever looked at a girl's fingers when she's blowing you? Hold on. He's not annoying.

He's not a normal. No, not at all. Are you kidding me? You've never. Well, Taylor, for you, it's only 30 seconds so you don't have time to look at the fingers. Wait, why do we roast Taylor? Oh, why do we roast Taylor? Let's, let's think about it.

Okay. You got to fucking few hours. He, you got to listen to the podcast where he went to my wedding and did a speech in front of everyone and told everyone that I'm the beauty. Or I'm the beast and Michael's the beauty. Don't ruin it. Don't just have her go listen to it. And then he told me, and he still works for you?

I'll tell you. I want to suck down on Lauren's dick. There's a lot of new listeners probably, because it's been a long time. And I looked at the analytics and it's a lesser known episode because you ever seen Mr. Toad's Wild Ride? Yeah. The Disney show back in the day. I've been on the ride too at Disney Man.

Okay. So we named this episode a long time ago, Mr. Piss Pants Wild Ride. And you can just Google TSC podcast, Mr. Piss Pants Wild Ride. And it'll basically tell you exactly what Taylor did at our wedding. It includes getting naked. problem too that he talks about. It includes getting naked at a strip club. You told me he can't, or he can too fast.

No, he's too fast. Oh, sorry, Taylor. Wet enchiladas off my dad's plate with his bare hands and included calling Lauren a beast and that she was going to suck down on her dick at our wedding. Like, it is a... Well, how drunk was he? Or what drugs? Oh, he was blocked out.

I didn't even remember I would wake up in the next morning. Michael would be like, with the message saying, keep it together. Oh, what about the time that my friends were sleeping in a bed together and they woke up and they woke up and Taylor was hoovering over them. This was the setup. This was the story. This is the story about. The story of the wedding was the first night

happened. I sent a text like, hey man, remember we're at the wedding, like, take it easy. I know you're having fun. Oh, so like you have a problem? That was the first day. The second day I was like, yo man, nobody sent you the message. Like take it easy. What the fuck? And the third day was like, are you fucking kidding me? He just, he went from zero to a thousand. You would have thought it was your wedding. Yeah, oh, Taylor. There's too much tequila though.

Dequila beer, but I get that. Like, I did. It was at Palmya, too. It can make you scary. Did you get married at Palmya? Yes. That's why. I saw that post that you did and I was like, oh my God, she's at Palmia. It's the most cathartic therapeutic place. And then I, the reason that I posted it there was because like I was struggling at my worst a year prior at the Palmia. It's like the pomia mark so many of my like.

Palmia is the best place on Earth. You know, Cummings and life. Oh, Cummings. Don't end with Cummings. Culming's in life. Okay. Thank you so much for coming on. You guys follow Amelia at Amelia Gray, right?

G-R-A-Y. G-R-A-Y. Don't work out. Okay. My middle name's gray. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Wait, I'm sorry, what?

Taylor Gray O'Connor. How? My middle name is, my middle name is Gray. How are you doing? I call him Taylor Gray. Taylor Gray. Taylor Gray. I think Gray is a beautiful name.

It really is. I'm going to name my kid something with Gray in it, but I'm not going to say it because then you bitches are going to steal it. Taylor Gray. Yeah, you can't give your name out. Don't give your name. I know. And I need to know how Zaza came about.

I think about that a lot. Zaza came about because there's this famous Hollywood actress that your mom would know called Jhaja Gabor. She was fucking fabulous. Just like very outspoken like your mom unapologetically herself. And I read all her autobiographies. And so I'd go to Michael and say, I'm obsessed with Zaza Gabor. And one day he looked at me and he's like, no, no, no, it's, it's, it's jaja.

And I was like, oh, I'm naming my first born Zaza. Because it's like, I said, do you call her Zaja or Zaza? Z Z Zsa is Z. No, Z, Z, S-A, Z-S-A, it's a pressure name. I think, I think that's the origin. And I said, like, you're saying it Zaza, but we actually like the name. name Zaza better. I love it.

Oh my God. Her eyes. Thank you. She's so beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. I can't wait to have a kid one day. Oh my God.

You're 19. Oh, I know, but like starting a family. So fun. Take your time. It's a lot of work. I have a dog, so I get it. Yeah. I have a French bulldog.

Kind of like a dog, but it needs your attention at all. It's like that meme, how much attention do you need? Yeah. And the person's dead. That's how it's how it is. Where is she now? She's with the sitter at home.

She's outside. She's just sitting waiting. Yeah. she's in the car. Like, let's go play with her. Yeah, I left her down there. She'll be okay. Do you want to play with my dog?

I'll play with your kid. What kind of dog? I have a French bulldog. Cute. My name's lady. Thank you for coming on. Oh, I saw that. Yeah.

You have a tattoo that says lady. Yeah. I love it. That was a fun conversation. That went all that. You got to sign a release for that. She's 19 years old. No, it's fine, guys.

19's legal. Yep, it is. Michael Mouse. That makes you sound like a creep. Anyways, Amelia, thank you for coming on the show. I have no idea you were 19. Do you want to win a cheeky pink glittery pop socket and some stickers? All you have to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode with Amelia on my latest Instagram.

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