The Bossticks - Bill Maher - Why You Should Question Everything, Left Vs. Right, Your Healthcare, & Being Free To Speak Your Mind

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

#767: Join us as we sit down with Bill Maher – an American comedian, writer, producer, political commentator, actor, tv host, & host of the Club Random podcast. Known for his sharp political satire and unapologetic sociopolitical commentary, Bill doesn't shy away from sharing his unfiltered views. In this episode, Bill opens up about his personal beliefs discussing topics like health advocacy, concerns about America's food industry, his thoughts on marriage, and an insider's take on Hollywood's sex scandals! This is part one of a two part conversation. The entire conversation was filmed as one long episode in Bill's Club Random studio. For the second part of this conversation check out Bill's Podcast, Club Random. The rest of the conversation picks up there! To connect with Bill Maher click HERE   To listen to the second part of this conversations click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn's favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. This episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile Go to mintmobile.com/skinny to get this new customer offer and your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just $15 a month. This episode is sponsored by Caraway Visit Carawayhome.com/himandher to see all of our favorite products AND use code himandher at checkout to take an additional 10% off your next purchase.  This episode is sponsored by Philadelphia Cream Cheese Visit creamcheese.com.   This episode is sponsored by Kora Organics Visit koraorganics.com and use code SKINNY at checkout for 20% off your first purchase.   This episode is sponsored by Land Rover Evoque   Explore the Range Rover Evoque at LandRoverUSA.com This episode is sponsored by Cymbiotika Go to cymbiotika.com/theskinny and use code SKINNY on your subscription order to save 15% off your order.   Produced by Dear Media  

The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

I think a lot of people get married because it's the thing to do. It certainly was in my head for way too long that you find. the one you know like it's an Easter egg hunt and you find the egg and then that's everything's perfect and that's certainly not the way I've ever seen life work and and also I don't think people would understand it it's not orthodox but it sure works for me but you that's it you have to find like medicine you got to find what works for you hello everybody welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her show today we have Bill Maher on the

podcast long time wanting to talk to Bill Marr. Many of you may be familiar with him. He's an actor. He's a comedian. He's a writer. He's a producer. He's the host of real time with Bill Maher. He also has a podcast called Club Random, which I'm going to talk about in a second. He's a political commentator. He's done a lot for a very long time. What we love most about Bill is he is absolutely outspoken. He says it, how he sees it and how he feels. He is willing to talk to anyone from any walk of life. And he's just an all-around nice guy. We had the pleasure of being hosted in Bill's studio where he films his podcast club random and that's where this episode took place. Anyways, many of you are familiar with Bill.

He needs no real introduction. He has been doing this for a long time. I figured I would get on this podcast and give a bit of a different introduction for us because one, we may have some new listeners that are unfamiliar with Lauren and I. My name's Michael. Usually I'm with my co-host, Lauren. She'll be on the episode in a second. But this was a different kind of episode for Lauren and I, namely because we filmed this with Bill in his studio where he films Club Random. He was nice enough, like I said earlier, to host us at his house where he films his podcast. And it's a bit of a different format for Lauren and I. We're there. Bill's smoking, drinking, we're drinking a little bit, having a good time. Normally we're in a studio. We're a little bit

more formatted. It's a little bit more kind of questions and topics. And what's different about this podcast is, and this is for our listeners that have been listening a long time, we were in Bill's studio and we kind of adopted the format that he does on his podcast Club Random, where, again, you're just kind of shooting the shit, you're bouncing from topic to topic, it's laid back, you're in a couch setting. Really, it's kind of just like a conversation in a living room with drinks. Lauren and I had a couple tequila drinks. You know, you're really just kind of shooting the shit.

So for those of you that are listening to this show or familiar with this show and you're used to kind of the back and forth that Lauren and I have typically with the guests that come into our studios, this may feel a little bit different for you. So I wanted to give you that context. The other context I want to give you is that this is really one long, almost two and a half hours, I think we filmed. But part one, I guess, of the full episode is here on our channel, which you're listening to or watching right now. And part two would be on Bill's channel, the Club Random Podcast. So essentially, we just sat down for two and a half hours and then cut it right in the middle and kept riffing. And so for those that are listening to this episode

and then wondering if that's the end of the conversation, it's not. For the second part, you have to go to Bill's podcast Club Random. I hate to make people jump through hoops, but he's got a great show anyway, and I'm sure there's other episodes on there that you'll find entertaining. So for part two of this episode and the full context of the full conversation with us and Bill Maher, you have to jump over to his podcast on his channel after this episode. We're releasing on the same day, so you can find everything there. With that, Bill Maher, welcome to Skinny Confidential, him and Her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. What are you drinking? What's your drink of choice? They said you have a concoction. Concoction? Boy, that does sound p-dittyish. No, I'm not going to concoct.

I'm not going to concoct anybody. No, look, first of all, I barely drink. I save my drink for this day. You know, I certainly drank in my younger years and more, never a drunk, but shall we say, like an Irishman. But, you know, as you get older, you have to, like, know when to throttle back or else, you know, you look like Ted Kennedy at the end. Why did you save your drink for today? Because I like doing this, because I like to drink and smoke pot at the same time. Okay. And like I say, you know, you're on a short leash. I'm 68.

You're on a short leash as far as like what you can do. I live basically the same life I always did, but that's because I really take care of myself. And part of that is you just cannot drink at this age and be who you want to be, do who you want to be, and look how you want to look as best you can. If I even smell alcohol these days, I'm hung over for a week.

I don't know what happened. How do you think he feels at 68? No, but I think, I don't know. But I'm just going to, you know, have a couple a couple a couple of weeks. I used to have a couple before I left the house. What's the wellness routine if you wake up hungover? Never wake hungover. I'm telling you, I'd like two drinks a week.

I'm not, probably tonight. You don't get hungover if you only have that much. We did hear you're really into health and wellness. What's the main thing that you're doing right now? I do a, well, again, limiting this. Okay. Health is a lot about a lot of things. First of all, I would say,

number one for me is knowledge, make it your hobby, to know about it. Don't trust doctors. There's a reason why they always say get a second opinion because anything a doctor tells you is an opinion. That's not saying that they're corrupt or anything, although there is a lot of that too, but you have to be in charge of your own health. Nobody else is going to look after it. I mean, the way health is done in this country where people just go to these, I mean, it's better than nothing, but they go to someplace where the doctor doesn't even know them and your doctor has to know your history to be for me to even begin to trust them if they know my whole medical history you have to have a

continuation that's how medicine should be done if you're just going to some guy at the strip mall and he's like oh I see the symptom and this is what we do for it well maybe it'll work out maybe it'll make you feel better tomorrow but as far as long-term health so you know Look, a lot of that is about economics. Not everyone can afford that. I think after the pandemic, we've seen people most of the time want to be told what to do, maybe. Recently, we get people on the show, and we got a lot of shit during the pandemic

because we were very skeptical about a lot of things going on, as I know you were. But I think now people are starting to kind of wake up a little bit and say, oh, you really kind of do need to be your own advocate. A degree doesn't necessarily, or a, you know, a credential doesn't necessarily mean expert. That's what I always said. And as usual, I'm right. people take too long to catch up to it. But yeah, I've always been a medical skeptic. That's not to say, I don't, it's not like I don't believe in vaccines.

First of all, it's science. There's no believing in. Vaccines are real, and they're a fantastic tool that we have in the box. It doesn't mean I want one for myself, for every, one size fits all, or that every situation is right, or that there aren't always repercussions and side effects to every medical intervention. And that's that thing I think vaccines are bad, and that some of those side effects are worth the risk. And some aren't.

And I should be able to make that judgment with, again, a doctor or more who I listen to. And what I read, again, back to the original point, first thing is be your own doctor as best you can. No, you didn't go to medical school. No, they know more than you about lots of stuff. They don't know everything either. Medical error is one of the leading causes of ill health in this country. And that's not even counting the stuff that they're not counting as medical error that I would count. Well, Bill Maher, welcome to the show.

We're jumping right into the vaccine. We're in your studio. I've got to be honest, you have home field advantage. I have a little discombobulated with all the stuff going on, which is really cool setup. But right away, you know, jumping into this topic, I think what we appreciated about you and what we do appreciate about you is you are not afraid to say what I think is on a lot of people's minds and what, in a lot of times, is common sense and proves to be right. Have you always been the line?

I don't care what's on their minds. I care what's on my mind and I say what's on my mind and it just drives with what a lot of people are thinking, which is great. I mean, I love, nothing in my life I love more. Well, let me like this joint. Have you always been that way though? A close second is how much I love that connection with my audience. Have you always been outspoken like that and always unapologetic?

Not as a child. I certainly was shy to myself and wouldn't have. thought to do anything like that. But you know, I always wanted to be a comedian, and comedians have to be outspoken, or they should be. That's not true. Some comedians are just silly,

but it was never my kind of comedy. So it just fit in with that. And of course, as you get older and more confident and see more and feel like, oh, I know what's going on here, and I can comment on that. I mean, I've been on TV for 31 years straight. Wow. Something must be clicking with a certain segment of people.

people. Do you remember a point when you were young where you started to see people really giving you attention for speaking your mind? Like what inspired? This has been a slow build? Well, I've had two shows, you know, politically incorrect, and then the one I'm on now, real time for nine years and 21 years. So I mean, just a matter of like there's a certain percentage of the population.

that would never watch either show because you have to have a brain to do it. Not even a great one. Just a brain. Just a brain. I'm going to need a shot of tequila. So that, that, oh yeah, all right, bro. What are we drinking here?

What would you like, Lauren? I would like what you made yourself. I want to build a one. Oh, okay. So this is Jing. This is just something that is on the, I think it's new on the, definitely new. I don't know if it's even on the market. Okay.

But it's just to make sparkling water taste like, I don't know. Yeah. Diet soda without any of the chemicals that are in diet soda, because diet soda is not health food either. I mean, there's a good answer to your question, but like first of all, thank you. You want some of this? I got some.

Oh, you got some. So and yeah. And yeah. And yeah. Cheers. Yeah. But yeah. I mean, again, I said right at the beginning, the thing, of course vaccines are a valuable

tool. they, and when I mean they, the medical Western establishment, would like to paint anyone who has questions as just a nut or like an anti-bacter. Not an antivactor? It's like saying, you know, I'm anti-antibiotics. No, I just don't want to take them if everyone's taking them and I don't think I need them. Yeah, I think that's a reasonable. I mean, so reasonable.

I feel the same way as you. Of course. And God forbid you ask a fucking question, especially during all that stuff. that was going on. It was so, it was like, it was like playing laser tag. You had to step over the lasers. You couldn't say anything with the lasers around and the guys trying to go through and you can't say one thing. Everyone would just eat you a lot. I mean, maybe you have the same thing, but the silliest thing in my life is that I'm seen as this ultra-cundriversial person, and I'm actually the most reasonable. Right, it's rational. On virtually everything.

What I was telling, what I, what I appreciate. Logical. In the middle, like, yeah, what I appreciate about, you, and I followed you for yours, is that you are someone that's willing to talk to everyone and hear different perspectives all the time. We've not done this nearly as long as you've done it about eight years, so close to a decade. And during that time, obviously, a lot of things have happened in media. And it's so funny because sometimes we'll have someone like Chelsea Clinton on, and then we'll have someone like Tommy Lear and the left and right as far as you're in the audience. Yeah, of course. It's what the country is. In the audience, like sometimes they're super happy and sometimes they're super upset. And we've always found it so strange when people get upset that we're just

I have no patience for those people. And yes, I have lost audience and I don't miss them. I wish everyone would love me. But again, we got to get rid of the people without the brain. They're not even coming. And then some of them are very brainy. You know, they only can see the world through team players. You know, everything that their team does, which is usually out here in Hollywood, the blue team, the liberals, which I mostly am with them. anyway, we're voting for the same person. You know, we're generally on the same side. To a lot of them, I'm some sort of arch-conservative,

because I won't go along with all your supreme leftist nonsense or the stuff like about the vaccines. I mean, that's a good example. That just became a leftist identity thing. But the left used to be the vaccines the more I want masks, the more I want vaccines, the better person I am, and the more you question it, the more you're a conservative.

It's not even a conservative. conservative liberal issue. It's medicine. It's science. And I'm the one who wants to look at it. You're the one who wants to shut the door on it, which is not scientific at all. And have you seen the stuff that's going on right now with RFK and Kalimans and those guys speaking to the Senate the last few days in the piece that the Atlantic just did? We're basically said, I forget they called them like the cuckoo conventions here. But it was basically, you know, a group of people saying, hey, the food is poison. We're killing our children. The obesity rates are out of control. Like somebody should look into this. And it's become a political issue now. You'll find this very interesting. Somebody sent me in this video.

It's kind of funny. I don't know who the guy was who was doing it, but he was talking about this RFK thing. RFK did come out. Now, RFK, who is a personal friend, I will always like him. I said this on my show a couple of weeks ago when I was defending his wife. But he, thank you. But he, he is cookie about certain things. I'm not where he is on everything. And he's all over the map, too. I mean, I had him on this. And, you know, Bobby, you know, you never think any vaccine does any good. And he'd be like, is that what you think?

I'm like, yeah, I read, you said it. You know, like, he's very, it's, there's some stuff there. That's an extreme position. Don't ask me to, like, be like, and you're with RFK on vaccines? I'm not. I'm more on his side than Western medicine in that I'm skeptical and he's skeptical and thinks that there should be a place for, individual autonomy and deciding about them. But he goes to places that I think are

make me want to go. And what conspiracy theory don't you believe? It's too far for you. So you get stuck in the place where it's like, okay, is everything a conspiracy? But here's the interesting thing. He did this, the thing you're referring to. Was it a Senate? Well, this was just like the last few days. And it was funny. I made a comment on the post. I was like, oh, this is the Avengers list of podcast guests because it was a group of people that that we've had on the show. But the Atlantic wrote a piece was like the Cuckoo Convention,

and it was basically disregarding everything that was said. And I think that's a problem, too, if you've made a health issue, a political issue, now people, you know. One of the things he said was, I mean, he brought, it's funny, I said, wow, that's what I've been saying on TV for 20 years, that we're poisoning ourselves,

that it's, you know, the food, the call is coming from inside the house. I always did the whole thing about that. The call is coming from. It's the food, you know, it's the most obvious thing, which, by the way, again, back to doctors, you know, until I met my holistic doctor, no one doctor ever said to me, matter what I went to them for, what do you eat? Like, as if that's completely irrelevant to, it's relevant to every health problem you could possibly have, and it's the answer to many of them.

Anyway, so Bobby Kennedy was saying that, which no politician ever says, because the last thing you can do in America is ever question what the people want to eat or ask them not to stuff their fucking faces with whatever shit they want to put in there. That is number one. That's why during the pandemic, they never mentioned that the vast majority of people who died from it were either very old or obese. But you can't mention that. But Bobby Kennedy, who, one reason I like him, he's a gutsy guy. And he says what he thinks. And he brought this up and he was right on the money. He was like, you know, we're poisoning ourselves.

A lot of our health problems, which caused so many other problems economically and so forth, is because the food supply is poison. And this guy did a video and he said, and he showed, Time Magazine did an article about a year and a half earlier. And it was, the title was something like, you know, why ultra-processed foods are killing us and why they're terrible for you. Then Bobby Kennedy, who by this time had aligned himself with Trump, makes this statement. And they come out with an article four days later, why ultra-processed foods may not be as bad as you think?

Nothing changed with the science or the food. But to my point about just everything is what team you're on now being against ultra-processed foods. You've been doing this a long time. Is it always been this way? Because I think we grew up, I remember I got to my freshman year of high school, both of us. I remember we, I remember going to school that year when 9-11 happened. And I remember it being on TV. And so like our generation of millennials have basically known 20-something years of foreign wars.

And as we've, as we've watched the political theater unfold, it's kind of, it's become this you versus them thing. Right. But I remember growing up, like you would sit around and people would talk about it. And it wasn't so contentious. It wasn't as bad. Social media has blown it up. Yeah. And I feel like we talk about this all the time.

Yes. That was a big factor. Yes. I think social media, people. that aren't savvy enough to understand algorithms, it has a tendency to make every issue feel like the most important issue in your life when it's maybe not.

Algorithms, I think, are gonna be the death of us more than AI. You know, I have someone on my show, Yuval Harari Friday, whose new book is a lot about AI, and certainly lots of people. The Sapiens author? Yeah. So he's genius. Yeah. I mean, again, that's why the brainless people cannot watch this show.

It just would not like that. Can I take a pivot and ask why you don't believe in marriage? I don't. I want to get to the juicy stuff. Okay. You guys want to talk about politics. I want to talk about marriage. Okay.

Sure. Why don't you believe in marriage? Well, I don't, sometimes I don't believe in it. Okay. So elaborate. It's not Hinduism. There's no belief in it. It's whether something is right for you.

Yeah. Why don't you think it's for you? Because I know. me so well. Yeah. What would happen with you? What would happen if someone married you? If someone married me, like it, like you make it sound like I tripped and got married.

Oh gosh, down, somebody married me. Well, I feel like I'd have to ask, I'd have to be involved, I certainly would. Okay. Well, it would ruin everything. I mean, I, look, I'm not going to... She was yelling at me in the car over here, by the way. Yeah, it ruins everything. I love to talk about this subject, but it's tough because...

It's tough because I also don't really ever want to divulge the details of my own personal life. So it's tough to do it. Very mysterious. I just think it makes it better. You know, I don't need anyone. And also, I don't think people would understand it. It's not orthodox, but it sure works for me. But that's it.

You have to find, like medicine, you got to find what works for you. You know, you have to watch your own thing. Don't go by just what the, I think a lot of people get married because it's the thing to do. It certainly was in my head for way too long that you find the one, you know, like it's an Easter egg hunt and you find the egg, and then that's everything's perfect. And that's certainly not the way I've ever seen life work and didn't work for me. And look, it's not that I don't believe in marriage or acknowledge that some people do have good marriages. I know people who would be lost without this. It's a lot of work, though.

It really is. Well, see, there you go. No, it is a lot of work. I'm out now. No, I'm actually going to agree with you on something. I'm sorry that I have to agree with him on something. A lot of work, I'm done. It's a lot of work.

But I can confidently say this, and I've said this before in the show, I would not be married. I actually... I set the bar so high that... No, I would not be married unless it was you. I wouldn't... And so I totally understand where you're coming from on that. It is a lot of work. Well, I do think people are flippant with getting into serious, intimate relationships and

then signing that piece of paper without really. I mean, there's so many. I mean, I could answer that question for 10 hours. Yeah. Just the things, beginning with like work. Like as soon as I hear that, you know, it's like, because whenever I ask a married couple, like, how's the marriage going? That's always the first thing out of their mouth.

Yeah, it's work. It's work. It's work. It's a lot of work. And I'm like, I don't want to work. I think I'm really fun to be married to, but you're a lot of. lot of work. And like I think we have a discussion about self-awareness in our relationship a lot. I'm a cat. Well. And I, but it is a lot of work being married to you. But what about kids?

Well, I'd never like kids. So that was never a problem. I get that too. I get it. Never like kids. So if you find someone, you know, who is on your page with this stuff and it is possible, it's like you have all the good and none of the bed. And that's, that was the only thing I would ever, was ever going to hold out for. It's like, Somebody was here recently and we were talking about the fact that people, you know, like, oh, I'll get Dr. Phil, you know, because even shrinks, even the experts always say, well, you're going to fight. It's just how you fight. And I'm like, again, I'm out. I, you know, I will not fight. I don't want to fight. I have certainly have had years where I was fighting and, and it's like, no, you can do it. Never married. Never married. Let's talk about Mint Mobile.

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Of course. But the people who were pissed off at that, fuck you. Like, you do you. I do me. You do what works for you. I was watching the golden. Bachelor. Correct. I already heard you like that. But the woman one, and the reason I'm doing it. What's the golden bachelor? Oh, get on board. Is it mean it's an older bachelor? I haven't watched it, but I heard about it. Explain what it is to him. Well, there was the golden bachelor. Okay. And then now one of the ladies who was one of the, you know, ejected harem members for the ancient bachelor when it was a guy, now she's the bachelorette. So it's, she's the bachelorette. So it's, It's the Golden Bachelorette.

Okay, so somebody told me. I'm thinking about our audience right now, like, ooh, they finally got Bill Maher in the chair and they're going to get into the heavy topic. And the reason I watched this fucking thing for two hours is because somebody, because we knew you were coming here, and they said, you should watch this because they're going to have seen it and want to talk about it.

So I watched this. And, okay, so maybe this will get it. I don't understand about marriage. First of all, it's this woman. She's a perfectly nice woman. She's 61, I think. These guys, they talk about her like she's this goddess. And it's like, it's just so sad to me.

These guys are really that desperate out there. They're talking about this extraordinarily ordinary person. Like she's a combination of Madame Curie and Linda Evangelistic. The reason they want to win is because they want to leverage the fame that they get. No kidding. Yeah. Yeah. It's not about the girl.

Well, but the guys, I feel, are sincere. Searly wanting her. I don't think they're faking it. I mean, the things they do just, it opens with, and I guess they all do it like this, but I haven't seen Batcher in a long time, but she's standing outside the mansion and this, the parade of guys, first, the first guy, he's French. I don't even believe for one second he was really French. I mean, he's got this friend Jack said that it's like, I can do that accent. Just put the accent on the wrong syllable. I have not. to your country. I don't think this guy was French at all.

Okay. Then a guy shows up. He's wearing an admiral's uniform. And it says, they're kind of retired. Okay, so you're wearing a costume. You're showing up for your date on the ancient bachelor show with a costume on. Okay. Then there's always like the asshole in every reality show.

They always have to purposely cast the asshole. So some guy in a pink, as soon as I saw the pink, sport jacket. I was like, okay, pink jacket asshole. Sure enough. I almost wore one, but she picks him, by the way, as one of them. So I have to question her taste. But like, it's just I mean, I don't get it. What if they did the reverse and they just had an old dude, they do? They do that. They do that. They do that. That's what they do. The bachelor's not dating too many. The golden bachelor. Oh, are you living under a rock. Yeah, he was like the biggest show last You're the Golden Bachelor.

I don't know, Lord, I don't know this stuff. What other content are you consuming? Are you consuming? They told me to watch this for you. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I've never seen The Bachelor here and there, but not the Golden Bachelor. Let's get the production team in there.

The Golden Bachelor you didn't hear about? I've heard about it. I've heard about it. I've never watched it. I wonder why they told you to watch. I didn't watch that one either. But I caught on that this lady was one of the rejectees, which is something they do often, right? They take the rejectee and then they get the.

their own show. So now she's the bell of the ball and all these guys, they're mostly like these completely interchangeable, generic gray white men. The only guys who stand out, I just make it sounds bad, but it's actually a compliment. The black guys, they know how to step to a woman better than the white guys who are just like, you know, and it's always sad because, you know, to give the audience permission to like someone who's single at that age, they mostly have to widowers, you know, so it's, my wife died and, okay, you're a good person and you need love. And so, you know, I mean, if I, if you took a drink for every time one of them said the word journey.

Oh, you'd be shithouse. You'd be, you'd be dead. Just in like the first five minutes, this journey we're on and this journey. And when she rejects them, it's like, oh, the drama, I've knew you for an hour. And you're not going to be in my life. How can we go on? We have these characters. We have Bachelor and Bachelor characters on the show.

And I always ask him, I'm like, do you actually get, do you fall in love with these people? Does it, like, feel real? And a lot of them say that it feels like they get so into it. And there's just like this environment, it's that it feels real for them. I don't know if I believe it, but what's what they say? I'll say this. These guys legitimately, they're not good actor. They're not actors.

They legitimately want to get with this. woman and that's fine i i think it's great because as three dog night said long ago one is the loneliest number but one is the loneliest number and lonely is bad no one likes to be lonely and these guys are lonely and i feel for them and so they've idolized this woman but is this like the thing where you'll get this it's like last call at the bar and all the guys are looking around at each other and there's two girls loud is it like that kind of thing and it's just if it was a no i just i just think have no great way to meet women. And finally, here's somebody who's an attract, I mean, look, I just do a bit about this, about me. So I get it. When I say, when somebody says, you look great,

when you're my age, or in your sick, they should kire on it for your age. I think you look great. I think the outfit's great. Well, I appreciate. You don't, you don't look. But like, my punchline was, come on, if I was 32 when I walked in, I look like, oh my God, be you in a fire. You know, for your age is the best you can do. I do that guy look good for my age. And she looks good for her age. But again, let's not, I mean, she's not Helen of Troy.

But look, they're just looking for companionship. And compared to what I guess is where they else would meet a woman at their age, it's tough. You're 60. You're a widower now or you're divorced. You know, and this is a great opportunity. and if only one of them could be like confident and not act like this is, oh, I'm worried. And you don't even know this woman.

You're like spilling guts. And she's in the same dress the show started. We haven't even had a costume change. They're going to call you and ask you to be the golden bachelorette. Or bachelor. No, let me tell you something. I told my friends this, if I could, I could do a show where I was the bachelor, but not with the age appropriate. That's okay.

And it would be so much better and so much funny. I bet that would be a hit. Oh, a lot of them would be crying. No, I'm kidding. We can cast some of my friends. No, but it would be a funny show. Okay. Why did you decide to start doing club random?

Were you, do you ever, actually, this is a question, do you ever get tired of being the guy in the center of Paul? Like, do you, was it something to you, because you wanted something to do different, and you got tired of it? Well, I like it because. I couldn't have you two on there. Right. I can, I can, I mean,

Cheech and Chong were here last Wednesday and, and we spoke a few. Yeah, but I thought you had Jordan Peterson on both. Jordan Peterson's been on Clubbred. Absolutely. There are people who can do both. But, you know, most people are not, I mean, if a lot of people can't even watch the show, you can imagine how few people can do it.

It's the show for people who, it just let's just say it's a different kind of show. and you have to really know what's going on in the world and be able to talk about whatever issues happened that week as an expert, that's not a lot of people. Because we're not like, oh, we're going to be talking about this. I mean, if they ask, yeah, we're going to try.

But look, if Trump gets shot again tomorrow, we're going to talk about that. You have to be ready to talk about that. Or whatever. And these are the kind of people. You know, I would call them great cocktail party guests. They can talk about anything. That's not everybody, and that doesn't mean other people

are stupid, or it just means people have dinner. different interests. Some people are just lots of people are not interested in politics at all. So I want to talk to them. And celebrities, you know, celebrities, very few. I mean, I could name on probably two hands the amount of what you would call celebrities who have done real time in 21 years. Carrie Washington, Van Affleck, Alec, Baldwin. I mean, there's a few of them, you know, people like that who can talk politics. Seth MacFarlane, smart people. But that's just not most celebrities. They are just, and I like celebrities. And I, you know, it started because I'd be at dinner with people and I'd be like, man, you're so interesting all these other topics that you

never talk about on their show. Why don't you do a podcast? I'm like an idiot. I was like, why don't I need a podcast? I have a TV show. And I'm like, oh, no, podcasts are cool. Look at how great you guys have done with it. Look at this thing you built. Well, I think it's interesting for us to see, at least from our perspective, to see guys like you taking this medium seriously because I think for a long time, people were like, oh, it's a podcast. I remember we used to you stuff for great videos to show people where to find the podcast. He goes on Joe. I love you on Joe. I love when you guys talk. No, I love you. I love you in the format because like you said, sometimes we get pressure to comment on political topics and we say, you know, like we try to be

informed. We're maybe not the best political pundits because we're not as up on it as many as other. We try to stay informed and watch. But we're not, you know, that's not our world. Right. But they're like, well, because you have a platform, you have to take a stance and aside. I'm like, do we, do we really? No, but I can truly fit. in both worlds. Yeah. I can talk to anybody. It's my little superpower.

I can have the hook, Hoctoa girl here, and we did. And the next week was Jordan Peterson. You know, I mean, and I love it, that's the best thing about podcasting. I love that range in life, you know, and I love them both equally. I mean, they're both my children now. I mean, all my work goes into real time. That is not changed, but that's the beauty of this. No preparation.

No, I just walk. in as opposed to the other show, which is like all preparation. And of course, it's an ad-lib show, most of it so I can't even. How long does it take you to prep for one episode? Well, I mean, there's three written elements. There's a monologue. There's a four, a desk piece, new rules, and an editorially do at the end. Those are written pieces that I want perfect. It's only one day a week that show. So they take many, many, many, many hours, and I love doing it. But it is work. Whereas this is just, this is our prep. What do you do when you're not working?

That's a good question. I used to do more things like go to Hawaii and stuff, although that was also a working vacation. I like working. You know, I'm not great on vacations. I like my house. I like here. I'm on the road a lot as a stand-up.

So I'm going to stop doing that after this year, at least for a year, take next year off. next year off. But that is like, you know, it's been for many years every other weekend. That's enough travel. What age did you start doing stand-up? 22. I got out of college at 22. I mean, I moved here. I like start doing it. That's when you start hanging around the clubs. You don't even get on stage. So, but yeah, that was the beginning. Yeah. After interviewing so many skincare experts and also being like a human guinea pig, I have realized that you do not want to be using makeup wipes to remove your makeup. I think it pulls down the face. It pulls down your eyes when you're

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About the COVID time? No, not about when basically like there, We felt as people in media that there was this pressure to kind of censor yourself or be careful who you had on or not say certain things. We always felt it was like we want to be able to talk to anyone we want, anyone we want, however we want, share our ideas without fear. Now, I mean, that's the great thing about being on HBO. They were great about that. When I was on that show, I was fired. And I understand why.

And it was cool. And it turned out to be the best, you know, blessing in disguise. because I wound up on a network that was, I think, a better network and better for me. So HBO lets you do kind of whatever you want? I don't think they've ever said anything. Wow. That's their, but that's not just me. That is what has made them the premier network for all these years,

is they let people do the show they want, whether it's me or whether it's David Chase, doing the Sopranos, which no regular network would ever do. They just did a documentary on it. It was pretty interesting. And, you know, they would never have hired Jimmy Gandalfini as the lead because he's not a network kind of lead. He's not the good-looking, you know. So they let people do what they do. They trust you.

And, you know, they're very loyal and they're very smart to do that. And so, yeah, I mean, I don't remember anybody ever saying, you can't have this one on. Now, of course, it's a two-way street. I don't give them problems. They even put me on CNN now. Our show runs on CNN. I said, really? You're going to show our show with all the language?

I mean, this week... CNN might need some ratings. This week, the desk piece, which they do show on CNN. I mean, it's all these jokes on the P. Diddy Sex Parties. I mean, it's really dirty. But they don't care. I was like, CNN can say fuck on CNN? Yeah.

even gave a shit. It just shows you. Like, people just don't know. They don't keep up to where the country's gone. Like, that's where the country is now. What are your thoughts on all this P-Ditty shit? Well. Do you go down the conspiratorial rabbit hole, or do you think... I don't think you have to. I think I know exactly what happened, basically.

And, you know, sex parties. Have you been to one? We had a guy that throws the sex parties in L.A. Damon Launer, he does this. He came on the show. I used to go to his things. Oh, yeah. So he came on the show. We talked all about it. He showed up in a full robe into the office with just everything. He asked me on the show to give his finger a blowjob and show him how I did it. I said, pump the brakes. To give it. Oh, your finger a blowjob. He wanted me to give his finger a blowjob. Hi, Damon. Hello. Because of my techniques. Damon. Yeah.

Yeah. That runs them. Yeah. So, yeah, it's P. Diddy probably sex parties. That's what you think. But do you go down the conspiratorial rabbit hole saying this was like... Because it's government and all the shit that everyone's saying. What do you think is just a guy that was throwing? Well, I know I don't ask my guest to demonstrate blowjobs. That's, that's...

You never know. This may be the slightestfalutant show, but we don't go there. That part got cut out of the Jordan Peterson episode. Jordan and I did not get into that. But, I mean, look, I am not an exhibitionist. So anytime I was at one of these parties, you know, I did not. My hat is off to those people. In a way, I really admire them and porn stars, like that you can do that in front of people.

Because, you know, and I think I would have acquitted myself nobly, but I still, you know, that's a something, first of all, being someone who's famous, you don't want to like, you don't want, not that anybody taped anything. You just don't, it's just not, and it's just not in me. And again, I don't mean to excuse this away. I'm just not brave enough. And I admire the courage of people who can get down in a room full of people. Somebody was telling me, I'm not going to say the name, but a very big and famous. female music star. What does it rhyme with?

No. Was that one of these parties? I think it was one of Damon's parties. And was in the middle of the living room for two, three hours. And she's a big fucking star who you would recognize. That's gutsy. Yeah. And apparently it stayed quiet.

Well, I think probably those parties wouldn't last very long if it didn't. didn't stay quiet. Well, he lied to me. He told me it would never get out. It was in the Inquirer like six months later. Well, but- But- That you were there.

Yes. Oh, that you were there. Yes. And they also mentioned some other celebrities who also were there. So, Gwyneth Paltrow and I don't think of telling tales out of school because it was in the Inquirer. Some people who I did see there, you know, I don't want to say other names, but there were famous people there.

But then they went to Brad and Angelina, and they were never there. How do you- flight through that, it's like, hey, with the inquire, fuck it, and bread and Angela. So how do you think something like the Pea Ditty stuff stays quiet for so long? I mean, people knew. Well, the music industry, I mean, like, I've had a few girlfriends in the music industry who were singers. And I've never heard anything but things like, I've never met anyone in the industry who

didn't try to fuck me, or just horror stories about. And we all flew to Las Vegas, and then when I wouldn't fuck them, I had to get my own way home. You know, just the worst sort of mess. And I've asked this for years, because it's been now seven years since me too. I was 2017. How does the music industry escape? I mean... Well, maybe not anymore.

If I told the tales, just that I know from... And I would... Okay, it's secondhand. but these girls are not lying. I know when someone's lying to me. And it's what... Now, part of the reason they get away with this is because it's such a sexual industry to begin with.

And there are groupies. There are women who are there just immediately to have sex and will do anything and will grab your Johnson before you can do something inappropriate. That doesn't excuse any of it. Sure. But that is the industry we're in, and that is not like the insurance industry. Right.

Okay. So, of course, the men are going to, like, take advantage of that, and just enough of that happens, and they just have an attitude. I've seen this in many rock star guys. Like, they just have this attitude, like, they just assume everyone wants to fuck them right away. Right away. So it proceeds from there. And then a fair number of people. of them apparently do. So it just encourages it and it gets worse, but it doesn't excuse it,

and it is actionable, and it is about time. They rolled up some of these criminals. You think there's a big roll-up coming? I do, and it's way overdue. It's, you know, things happen when they happen, but it is seven years past when they went after the other industries. I mean, they went all through like NPR. Really, NPR? They got Garrison Keeler before P. Did he Really? Okay. So what do you think's going to happen? You think that a lot of people that are super famous

are going to start going to jail? Do you think there's going to be like this reckoning? I don't think he's going to be the last one. I don't think the cell that has R. Kelly and P. Diddy in it is... I heard he's in a cell with Sam Bankman-Fri. Is that... I don't think... I don't think the same cell.

They're in the same detail. tension. I was thinking about this, though. You know, Elon talks a lot about being in a simulation, and that is something that is out of a simulation to me. Like, that is, like, you couldn't, you couldn't script that. That those two, like, would, in the lives they both led, would then one day end up. Well, what I can't do is picture Sam Bankman-Fried at a freak party, because that is not going to work at all. It's going to kill the vibe real quick. No, that's going to be like, Puffy, could you get rid of the guy with the jufro before the baby? This guy is harshing my...

Lauren has no idea who we're talking about. Who's Sam Franklin feed? What? You're the husband. You tell her. It's a big crypto scam. We're not going to... In a short period of time, we're not going to...

Really, you've never heard of Sam Bankman. No, I've never heard of him. See? I'm honest. I've never heard of him. I know. But like, people have different... This is what happens to us in politics.

This is why it was a very big story. I didn't hear that. I mean, this is not politics. This is... No, but people will get mad sometimes if we say, What I think sometimes of people, one of the problems I think that's going on right now is everybody needs to be an expert all the time and you see people fighting in comments all over the place on social media. And it's like, do you really need to be the expert every time on every political issue? I've made the same point in editorials on my show.

If you don't really have anything to say about something, shut the fuck up. You don't have to opine about every fucking thing. this is what we never used to do is, and why we got along so much better, I think. People will get mad at us if we say, we just don't know. We don't know about this one particular. And that's perfect. That's, I, first of all, I respect that. Do you want me to start telling you about whatever's going on with foreign policy right now? I mean, what I say to people is like, you go and you follow certain people. And in our case, you know, we're talking to all sorts of people across the spectrum, across the board,

mostly in health and wellness and how to live a little better life, really, whatever. to be, do you really want us to comment on foreign policy or the political atmosphere? We can. It's not going to be accurate. It's perfectly valid point of view. And it's, it's honest, it's realistic, it's humble, it doesn't cast you in any bad light. It's, and again, it's not phony. It's not, it's not this, I have to, there's a pressure. I feel like a lot of, because of social media, there's a pressure, you know, post this square.

in support of X or whatever, just do it. We didn't know what was going on. I'm in the Mean Girls Club. You know, I'm sorry, we don't all wear pink on Wednesdays. I get it. That's the rule that came down, but I don't wear pink on Wednesday. I wear whatever the fuck I want. I hate the idea of having to do something.

We both hate the idea of having to do something because everybody is doing something. I need a second to think about it for a minute. Where can everyone find you? Pimp your show out. My HBO? show? Look, my show is actually one of the last, what they call appointment televisions, like people Friday night, want to see it so fucking badly that they watch when it's actually on. And for years, it was live, live. Now we tape it for it goes on at seven here in the east,

I mean, in the West, 10 in the East on HBO. But I mean, who in the world watches TV when the show is on? You watch it when you want to watch it. One of the great advancements in Western civilization. I'm old enough to remember when you had to watch a show when they told you to watch it. I don't watch anything when they tell me to watch it. I even know when they are on or what network. I said I wanted it and it comes on my menu and I watch it. So, you know, people watch real time or they watch it. The clips, you know, people are, some people only have the attention span for a clip here or there, whatever. I don't know. It gets out. And Club Random is where people get podcasts, YouTube and whatever the fuck. I don't know.

For this audience, if you're listening to the podcast right now, we're going to do your podcast. So just switch over. For the second part of this episode, if you're wondering why this just kind of cut off, go to the Club Random Podcast. It's Bill's podcast. That's the second half of this conversation. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching.

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