The Bossticks - Bobbi Althoff On How To Go Viral, Find Your Voice, Manage Criticism, & Build Something From Nothing

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

#816: Join us as we sit down with Bobbi Althoff – comedian, viral sensation, & host of The Really Good Podcast. After skyrocketing to fame on TikTok, Bobbi carved out a niche with her signature dead...pan humor & hilariously awkward celebrity interviews. In this episode, Bobbi opens up about the art of her sardonic wit, the reality behind her unconventional interview style, navigating online criticism, & staying true to herself in the era of cancel culture.   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Bobbi Althoff click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at +1 (512) 537-7194.   This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential   Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn's favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes.   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential   Optimize your daily beauty routine. Shop The Skinny Confidential Mouth Tape at shoptheskinnyconfidential.com.   This episode is sponsored by Just Thrive    Visit JustThriveHealth.com and use code SKINNY90 for 20% off your first 90 day bottle   This episode is sponsored by Better Help   Visit BetterHelp.com/SKINNY today to get 10% off your first month.   This episode is sponsored by Ritual   Start a Ritual that's backed by science, without the B.S. Ritual is offering 25% off your first month at ritual.com/SKINNY.    This episode is sponsored by Hiya Health   Go to hiyahealth.com/skinny to receive 50% off your first order and get your kids the full-body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults.   This episode is sponsored by Boll & Branch   Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at BollAndBranch.com/skinny.   This episode is sponsored by Primal Kitchen   Head to primalkitchen.com/skinny to save 20% off your next online order with code SKINNY at checkout. Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:01:18 some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. The viral sensation, comedian and host of the really good podcast, Bobby Altrov, is on the show today. We're going to have a conversation about skyrocketing to fame on TikTok, how Bobby carved out a niche with her signature deadpan humor, how she stands out online, and her hilariously awkward celebrity interviews. Bobby, welcome to The Him and Her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. I feel like everyone with your name, and even on this brief, says the word viral everywhere. But I'm just going to take a guess that in your shoes, it doesn't feel like you went viral. Like, I feel like it's a slow build, if I'm guessing.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I don't know. There's so many levels. I like how we're just automatically like NAM. Like my voice changes and everything. I feel like there are a lot of levels to going viral, though. Okay, you have a hair that is going to bother me. I fix it. There you go.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Okay. Usually someone's fixing my hair. It's yourself. Yeah, it's yourself. Your hair is so stuck to your... No, it's not. Today, I just push it back. No combing.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It doesn't look like it. It does not look effortless. I'm sorry. It's effortless. Okay, so it doesn't, like, in your, when you say viral, what do you mean there's a lot of different levels? Explain it. There's, you know, TikTok viral where you kind of just are viral on the app, I would
Starting point is 00:02:49 say you're on TikTok and everyone on TikTok is talking about you, but it never leaves that platform. And then I think there's another level to it where you go viral all over the internet and you're kind of, and then mainstream news is picking it up and stuff. So I think there's levels. So I think that prior to my big going viral, I had just gone TikTok viral, you know? So what were you doing to even go TikTok viral in the first place? Like what was your first pieces of content? Just me doing parodies of being a bad mom.
Starting point is 00:03:23 so I was just talking I was really just trying I wanted to go viral no I wanted to do so bad so I was like I need to figure out what to do and that's kind of just what worked and so kept doing it and kept doing it and then it grew into a podcast what what's what makes a bad mom I can't wait to hear I don't know what makes I was just thinking of the most outrageous things that mothers would never actually do but I was like what is the most outrageous thing and people I realized we're so gullible, they'll believe anything. So give me some examples. Just saying if my daughter's, I showed my daughter a lot in the beginning, but I would show her and be like, my daughter's teeth they're growing in crooked. So I'm taking her to get braces and she was six months old. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:04:08 people are like, how dare you do that to her? That's so fucked up. And I was like, they're so gullible. So they just all believed it. Yeah. Is that sort of where your schick came in? Is you're like, these people are so gullible? Like, I'm just going to continue it. Yeah, they pretty much, And then it was cool because there was the people who got it and were loved being in on the joke. And then there were the people who didn't get it. And that was really where the virality came from, I would say. Just all the people who didn't get what was going on. But I would hashtag parody at the end of 10 hashtags.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I tried to hide it. I was like, I want some people to, I want the people who are, I think, who have common sense to understand. I think I'll give them a little like here. But everybody else who doesn't look into things. That's a tall order on the internet. Call it. Yeah, they don't. There is a good amount to have it.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I like those people. Those are my favorite people of the internet. You could be in your account Bobby's parody and they still. And they would still believe it. Yeah. No, there's some people, a lot of people on the internet who just are so stupid. It's odd. I was like, what word should I use?
Starting point is 00:05:14 That's accurate. What? I know. Like, it's just, it's a self-awareness, a lacking. They don't have that. What point did you go mainstream when you started your podcast? podcast? Yeah. Yeah, it was probably a few episodes into my podcast. But when I interviewed Marco, it took off. I've been just winging this from day one. I'm still winging it. I kind of,
Starting point is 00:05:35 I mean, I'm working on hiring a producer now, so I think that I'll wing it a little bit less once that happens. But yeah, I don't know. There's no, I think it's just something that hasn't really been done in the form of a podcast. Yeah. I think you've cracked a formula where you've created It's something very unique that stands out. And a lot of people are looking and trying to figure out how to go viral. And you figured out how to kind of do it in a way that was different than what other people would expect, which is why I think it works. And we do, you know, this show for a long time. And I would say, like, you know, there's a lot of big names that go on a lot of different places.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But I think it's the rarity of the guests and how few interviews they do. And then the difference in form. Like, anyone can talk to the same person over and over the same way. But I think the way you did it was and then it was so unique. Yeah. I would say too, my podcast started because, and this is no offense to you guys, because you guys have a podcast. But I was like, everyone has a podcast. And it's just, it's what everyone does.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And I was like, that's, I used to think it was the stupidest thing people did. It was like, oh, they're starting a podcast. Like, so-and-so announces, they have a podcast. I was like, what are you going to talk about? What are you going to, what are you going to offer this? I don't know, you know. I immediately started it as like, I knew podcast made a lot of money. You guys know that.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Hence the mattress. Yeah, exactly. You guys know a thing about that. So I was like, I want a podcast, but since everybody has a podcast, how do I differentiate mine from everybody else's podcast? And that's how the idea came. And so I tried to base it on my favorite podcast. I listened to one in my life.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And it was Guy Raz, how I built this. And I was like, let me interview rich people and figure out how they got there. So that's what it started off as. but then I remember having a thought of like a celebrity is going to want to come on a podcast called So You're Rich because that's so tone deaf of them to go on that so I was like I need to change the name so that's how it became it was just a parody of a good podcast
Starting point is 00:07:33 which people are like this podcast is not really good and I'm like you think you're doing something with that I know it's not good it's not supposed to be good at no point has this ever been something that's supposed to be a good podcast it's a shitty podcast I don't research my guests I don't I don't I show up, like we both show up and we're just like, all right, let's just see what happens. And I don't know, yeah, it's not, there's no formula to making it a good. That's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:59 it's funny because like obviously I do this show, but then on the other side of it is we work with people that are trying to do versions of what we or you or others have done. And like what I always say is if you come in and you're just like, I'm another version of that thing. It's like my eyes kind of glaze over. Yeah. Because it's like, the thing already happened. I mean, I think it's the same podcasts are the same as, you know, if you're an entrepreneur launching a new product and you're going to ask, what does your product, why is it different than other people's? And it's podcasts, a lot of people just come out with a podcast that's very similar to every other podcast. And it's like, why would anyone watch yours then? So I don't want that. I don't want to have a podcast that flopped.
Starting point is 00:08:37 But I was also, I actually at no point did I ever think that my podcast would not do well. There was not even a question of it from the first minute. You come on here. You say things like you're winging it. I know about you. I do many research. You are much more clever than... I know. There's a lot of like little breadcrumbs that you just left in there where I feel like there's like a business mind in here. Like I said. There's a business mind in it for sure. But yeah, I don't know. I guess there is. No, what I think is cool about your generation is there's like a casualness to it that's not our generation. I don't really know how to put my finger on it. It's like you guys are like more chill and relaxed, but you do also have a
Starting point is 00:09:17 business mind. So it's like you mix that together. I don't know. Yeah, I think it's laziness mixed with a little bit of, okay, I want money and I need to figure out how to provide for me and my kids forever. So I don't know. I've also, I guess it's, it's, I, so I started off. My first job ever was at Sonic. and then I worked at Jersey mics, and I worked at, I've worked so many rent. And then I was a nanny for six years. And then when the pandemic started, I lost my job as a nanny because they were stuck at home. And everyone was really scared. And I was pregnant.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So it was not a great idea for me to be in L.A., yeah. And then I started selling masks on Etsy and I, like, sewing them myself. And I remember making $3,000. I made so many masks. I was up all night while I was eight months pregnant. Yeah, because I, the, CDC announced that you had to have a cloth mask and I was like oh they're probably making money off of those cloth masks how do I like how do I make so I got on Etsy I went to the tart my mom had
Starting point is 00:10:19 bought me a sewing machine that I never had sewed anything on but I knew how to sew kind of so I watched a tutorial on YouTube of how to make a cloth mask I went to Target bought bed sheets cut them up into like the size of masks and I just started making them and then the sewing machine had an embroidery feature, really shitty embroidery, but I was like, oh, $5 extra and you can get your name embroidered on it, and I'll ship it to you overnight. But because of that, I was getting so, and I also wouldn't cap my cells, because I was like, I don't care if this means I never sleep. I just want to and then I remember being like, this, me and my dad were like, this could be a business. You could, you could, it's crazy as people, I'm pretty sure, what's that one brand? Like, Kitch, did they start
Starting point is 00:10:59 making masks? I feel like I've never seen them before. They like grew from that. Some people did launch years off of COVID. Yeah. And it's like I could have, but I kind of was like, all right, I am so pregnant. I need to, and then I had my baby and I was like, I'm not going to stay up all night anymore. So I'm masks. This is crazy. But then I knew I needed to catch the TikTok wave. So that's kind of where that was where me and my sister would talk on the phone every day. I had a newborn. And I was like, how do we do it? Look at all these people going viral. Like, how do we get there? How do I do that? We were posting. I tried to make a sister account at first. It was called Bobby and Lexi. She would not do her half. I was like, post. I post, you post. We got to keep this up. We need to go viral. Clean your house. Do anything. I was trying anything. I did how to become a nanny. I was giving tips on the internet to five people because that's how many views they got of how to become a nanny. I was just so desperate to have something take off because I thought it was so unfair that there were so many influencers getting so many free things. And I was like, how the fuck do I get that too? I want that. I love these stories though because it's an example of somebody that if you if you just put in a little, bit of work and you aren't afraid to put yourself out there, like what can happen? You've built such a massive thing now from just kind of throwing yourself out there. And like, we've been doing this a long time in different capacities. And when people come and say, like, they look like, what's the
Starting point is 00:12:17 magic formula to go viral or how do you build it online? I'm like, you just have to start doing this. You have to just do it. And then also don't be afraid of looking stupid because I know for me in the beginning and I know a lot of my friends what stops them is, oh, well, what about our friends? Let's see this. And I'm not friends with any of the people who I went to high school that I originally cared about seeing like, oh, what if they see how many videos I put up that get no views? Because I was putting out 10, 15, 20 videos a day getting no views. And I thought it was so cringe, but I was like, well, whatever. I would delete them, of course, after a day because I don't want to leave a history of me failing. I was not going to let them see that for long. But I had a thing
Starting point is 00:12:58 that was like, if in 24 hours it doesn't go viral, it gets deleted. And then once I started going viral it was every single day I needed to have one video hit a million views or it gets deleted and I would be up all night being like all right this isn't I haven't gotten a million views yeah I haven't and it would drive me crazy if I didn't get one to hit a million views every day and I did that for three years almost yeah three years how are you doing this with a baby like were you just they sleep so much like that's all so baby wearing once I had my second kid just had her in a baby carrier all day long and would just when my first kid was napping I would be up there thinking of skits and just trying to figure out what to do. And I had a lot of help for my husband,
Starting point is 00:13:38 too. He helped me watch the kids and stuff because, you know, when he wasn't, or when he was working, he would baby wear sometimes and I would just sit there and think of skits. So you just made it work until it worked. Yeah, but I was so determined. And I feel like a lot of people who know me in real life say that once I get determined to do something, it's going to happen. It's just a matter of one and I feel like that's the one I'm very stubborn about what I know I can do, even if it's going to take me a really long time and I'm going to be depressed during it because it's not happening. I think you said it earlier though. You're like, I never didn't think I was not going to go viral. Oh yeah. I knew I knew it was going to work. I can't remember a time of me thinking when I
Starting point is 00:14:21 started the podcast, oh, this might not work. It was a matter of how to get it to work. I wasn't sure. That is a really important trait. So many people I know will like, put up a podcast episode and they'll get to 50 and they'll stop. Or like even running this business, you'll have people start and they'll get to like a year and it's not really where they want it to be and then they quit and I'm like and then I see the people that stick around for longer periods of time and it's like this exponential growth that they start to get. Yeah. I think it's like it's weird for whatever reason the internet's the one place where people feel like oh I'm going to do this for like three or four months and if I don't become the biggest star in the world, then like I fail and I quit.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And I don't know it just takes a long fucking time. It does. And you have to also know when you're failing and no one to change stuff. You're no stranger to this. How do you deal with criticism online? Especially as someone with young kids. Yeah. And like they're dissecting. And you know, like when you do go, I think when you're isolated to TikTok, it might
Starting point is 00:15:10 feel safe or isolated to sound like. Do you think TikTok's feel safe? It feels safer because you can definitely control it a little bit more too. I don't know. You know, when you're just on TikTok too, not a lot of people are talking about you. I feel like I'm at a point where I will do the most random. Sometimes I do stuff and no one cares. Sometimes I do stuff and it's like.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I'll look and it's like, I don't even know. Now I can't think of any news agency, but there'll be like actual magazines that post stuff about it. And I'm like, why does people care that I did said this random? I'll address my haters. Sometimes it'll be people will pick it up. And I'm like, oh, God, I need to be more careful of what I put out there. What I was saying is like, think about it.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Like you're in TikTok. It's familiar. It's kind of a familiar audience and demo. And then it crosses over and goes more mainstream. And even people like myself and like, obviously I'm not. or target demo, I see some of the things you're doing. So that gets much bigger and you get much more visibility. And then all of a sudden you have these people that have never commented about you,
Starting point is 00:16:06 commenting them. It feels strange, I imagine. Yeah, it sucks. I, I, I hate, I don't know. I feel like I definitely hear from a lot of people who are so much bigger than I will ever be that that they don't read their comments and they just don't listen to that. And I'm like, I can't wait to maybe get there one day where I just don't care. But I definitely am not there yet.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I read every time. If I see my face on my 4-you page, I click it. And I'm like, what did you guys have to say about me? And I'm like, oh, you guys are so mean. And it's like, first of all, I know you guys would never say this to my face. Well, maybe one of you would because you're that much of an asshole. But these people have so many opinions. And I think the ones that get me the most are the ones that I think it's like an insecurity that I already had.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And then somebody says it. And I'm like, okay, fuck you. Like, you did not need to go there. Like what? I don't know just when when my face looks really bad because I get bad filler
Starting point is 00:17:03 and people all have something to say about it I'm like fuck you okay I just look like you have bad filler okay I didn't think so right now but also the comments are gonna say that for sure I feel like it's like but the comments look natural and pretty
Starting point is 00:17:14 I could have they swear I have cheek filler in my cheeks right now and it's like a bit I'm like I have chubby cheeks look back at any photo of me but things like that where I'm like in person I mean I don't know what they're talking about
Starting point is 00:17:26 what video, but in person, you don't not look like you have bad filler at all or a lot of filler in your face. They are very, well, so after when I did, this video haunts me, but I did the Forbes interview right after I had just had a little bit of lip filler put in and I hated it. So I had it, I tried to have it dissolved, but I had to go to someone else because you know if you get it, you can't dissolve it that quickly. But I was like, let me just, let me just lie to this next person say I didn't get it recently. The person who did it won't do it, won't take it out that because they can't they're not going to take it out that fast if anything you have to just lie and say didn't i don't it's not saying when you got to remove that quick well i just look stupid so at forbs i
Starting point is 00:18:02 look my lips look crazy i know also it's just like you guys i know i know i look crazy shut up okay let me just live but um that video haunts me because i hate it so much the interview and it was a 45 minute interview i did with Forbes that day so it's there's so many clips to be taken from it and anytime that is on my for you page i know that i know all the comments are like oh my gosh this is what happens when you get too much money and you just, it's so annoying, but people are very critical about my looks. They're critical about my body and just everything. And that definitely bothers me for a long time. It was my boobs because from breastfeeding, I had two different sized boobs. And people, then when I, then they were just like bigger in the beginning. So people have a lot
Starting point is 00:18:47 to say about the fact that they're small now because I stopped breastfeeding and the milk is Well, I kind of still do, but it's not a lot. How do people don't understand that? When you have a baby, your breasts fill up with milk. I know a lot of guys don't get it. Your boobs fill with milk to get the baby. I know, and it's milk that's in there. My boobs grew like 80 sizes, and then they go back down after.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And it's like... I don't really know why we have to explain our boobs, though. I don't really like, let's look at your dick. I... Like, pull out your dick. Let's see your dick after a cold plunge and then let's see... Honestly, with all much they are to say. Let's see your dick after a cold shower.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yeah. I remember we were saying the other day, I don't know why guys would take girls on dates to go on the cold plunge. You know, like, these get some guys, like, let's do a cold plunge. I don't prefer to be around you when you're in the cold plunge. I could use a break. You could go by yourself. It's not my strongest. But the point is, all these guys that are commenting on all these girls' tits, it's like, show your penis.
Starting point is 00:19:39 What is it guys? Women aren't, maybe like one or two women out of the million. Yeah, guys have so much, because they were like, she would have never gone as viral if it weren't for her boobs. because in my interview with Marco, I had big moves. They were full of milk, you guys. I don't know what to tell you. It was milk boobs. It was not, it was not, no, like, no one.
Starting point is 00:20:00 But is there, in all fairness, maybe like 5% viral credibility for the boobs for the guys? Probably. No. No. It would have gone just as viral in this shirt. You just gave me a hot tip because when I'm done having this baby, I'm going to sit on TikTok with my big old udders and try to go viral. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Big right now. Yours are like, what's going on? They're going to get sick. It's called milk. Yeah. You're bringing. I don't know. You have to explain this to people.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I know. It's crazy. It's not like rocket science. But it's like, you know, like, what if I came in like fully fluffed up with tight shorts for a video of ours? Like maybe we'd have a 5% chance of going more viral than if I. Why don't you try it? Put a little elbow grease into it. Let's put a note on that for the next social.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah. Well, I'll show my huge milky boobs and you can show your. Do it. Don't show it after a cold cream. Hey, I'm still. wearing viral with no boobs thus much after so I don't know. That's not just the stick. It's way more than boobs.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So how do you now manage all that? It's just like you kind of block it out. You don't read it or you do read it. I mean, I heavily filter my own comments. Really? Oh yeah. You can't say ugly. You can't say you should see my filters.
Starting point is 00:21:11 My comment filters are like ugly, Botox filler. But sometimes it's words that are like I can, when I look at the comments and it's like it's like they were trying to say something so. But I have that word blocked because I knew that it could be paired with something that was mean. Oh, I'm gonna filter on our on my account filter the word unfollowing and unsubscribing. That would be perfect. Do it. Do it. I have those people come in. They make this fucking announcement to me all the time like unfollowing unsubscribing. I'm like I don't need the note. I just go. Take it off. Don't give them that power. I give them less. So it's nice in my comments. I'm like, oh, you guys are so nice. And then I look at myself somewhere else and I'm like, fuck you guys. I'm actually like I saw a TikTok of myself. like the other week. And I was scrolling on my 4U page and I saw this video and I was like, oh, fuck, like,
Starting point is 00:21:56 what's she going to say about me? It's going to be so mean. And it was her just being so nice and all the comments were nice. And I was like, where am I right now? It's so sweet. It is weird because usually I go and I see myself and I'm like, or I get tagged in something. And it's just people shitting on me. Like her one is she just going to disappear and blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And I'm like, why are you, people are just so bitter. I'm like, you, they want, they're jealous. They're bitter. They have nothing going for them or they wouldn't be on the internet criticizing people. At no point in my life have I been on the internet criticizing people or announcing how much I hate people. Have inside thoughts. Have thoughts that you have with your friends. You don't need to announce it to me. Quick break to talk about Just Thrive. Lauren and I do a him and her newsletter. And in that newsletter, I was talking about the supplements that I've taken most consistently for years. One of them is Just Thrives probiotic. It is the only probiotic. proven to arrive in your gut 100% alive.
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Starting point is 00:27:14 is to spew hate. To both of you guys, what I would say, because you said you're looking at unfollowing describing. My advice is don't look at it. Oh, that's silly, but I want to read the good stuff. And to be fair, it has helped me. My comments have helped me throughout all of this. And I think that they're like, like the critiques of how. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I take, I take a lot of constructive criticism from what I put out there, the comments. So it's like I get a lot of feedback from comments. And if I just stopped reading them, I wouldn't, I know when I'm something, especially through in the beginning, when something I'm doing is getting old and I need to. to just pivot, I would not know that if it weren't for reading the comment. So yeah, I just
Starting point is 00:27:55 have to read a couple about how hideous I am and how I'd never see my children. That's their favorite thing to say. I never see my kids. It's so funny. You mean people say that they're like, when are you with your kids? I'm like, you see five minutes on my day on a 24-hour Instagram story. When am I? Yeah. Have you guys ever thought that if I don't post my kids, then you're not seeing the times I'm with them? I'm not posting. I'm only posting when I'm not with them. I also don't want to put my kids all over all the time. Like, no one needs to see, like, my kids, like, first step and, like, them going to the back. Like, I'm not, I don't need to, like, slap my kids all over.
Starting point is 00:28:31 So, like, the outside perception could think I'm a good mom. So that I'm, yeah, I could sit there every day and show my morning routine. And I'm sure that people would be like, oh, look, she's an amazing mom. Or, you know, actually, no, they would be like, um, how you did this isn't safe. And I don't like how you combed her hair there. And what are you, they would have so much to say. they you'll never win but that's my biggest hate comment I get or or the number one thing that I see in every comment section is she left her kid on her first birthday to interview Drake that is my I'm like
Starting point is 00:29:06 she three days before her first birthday I threw a huge birthday party for her because her birthday was not on a Saturday had all of our family there she was one she's not going to remember that my parents worked on so many of my birthdays, but that is people's biggest critique of me, is that I left my daughter on her first birthday. Like, that makes me a bad mom because I interviewed Drake on my daughter's first birthday. I would interview Drake
Starting point is 00:29:29 on my daughter's first birthday and throw a party separately. If you go ahead and judge that. I'm sorry. Like, I don't see anything. If I get seen her on Drake, I'm in a... By the way, my daughter, when she's like 21, would be like, I'm so happy you did that. You can celebrate the birthday a different day. I would not leave my daughter for Drake on her
Starting point is 00:29:45 birthday, just so you know. Zaza, when you're older and hear this. Your mother, your mother would leave you, but your father would never leave you. You've never, you've never worked on your birthday? No, he's like, I'm father of the year, number one. Okay. Okay. Of course. But no, I, you know, listen, I, I think. You left our kids on Easter. You booked a trip on Easter. It was like Towns's first Easter. I had the eggs ordered off Amazon. Zaz's dress was there. I had a bonnet. I had a ruffle bad to collect eggs. To be fair, To be fair, I didn't realize that Easter switches days every year. Well, and last year it really confused me.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Until everyone's perfect and their grass is the greenest and everything's amazing in their yard, don't judge next door. Yeah. Well, it's been tough because I weigh how I parent based on the feedback from the internet. And, you know, depending on what the internet says about how I am as a parent is how I get through the days. Every person that commented that would leave their daughter on their first. I know. I, every, every,
Starting point is 00:30:45 I, I, it's an opportunity to take your career to the next level for you to make money in the long run. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Long run strategy. And it's, it's truly, even if I worked at McDonald's and my daughter had her, I'm not gonna, if I have to work on her birthday, it's,
Starting point is 00:31:00 it is, she's also one. It's what part about, she's one, do they not, they're saying first birthday. I would imagine they know first means one. Um, one means they don't have any memory.
Starting point is 00:31:11 She can't tell me what she did. The birthday that I spent, all the money on throwing for her. She has no idea. We have a lot of pictures. She's going to look back at those photos. And when she thinks of her first birthday, she will think of those photos.
Starting point is 00:31:22 But for some reason, people are like, oh my God, they really think they're doing something with that comment. I think that you just shouldn't look at the comments right when you wake up
Starting point is 00:31:30 and right before you go to bed. I think you should create a space. If you're going to look, I get why you have to look. You have to pivot your content. Just pick a window of time in the day when you want to be miserable. Just like one window time.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Michael wakes up sometimes and looks at Twitter and then goes to bed and looks at Twitter and that's book ending your day with negative news. No, but I don't get as, okay, I'm just going to be on. I don't get as affected by the things that are stuck. I'm really sensitive. And I think,
Starting point is 00:31:53 not to comment. I'm sensitive to energy. Like if it's, I don't want to watch the news before I'm going into my dream state to do my strategy session while I sleep. Here's the honest truth. And this will just come with, I think like the longer you do something where you put yourself out in front of people
Starting point is 00:32:12 and you're doing something different. different than what the normal or average person does. Like, you're creating some kind of show, you're doing some kind of creative outlet, or you're just saying things publicly that most people won't say publicly because that's what you do on the internet. Like, that comes with a certain kind of criticism and pushback,
Starting point is 00:32:27 and that's always going to happen. As a matter of fact, like, it's actually going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. She has gotten it on a massive scale. But the point is, like, over time, it just starts to mean less and less to you because it's like, how many more mean things can you hear from somebody to the point where, like, You know what I mean? It's like, you just kind of your skin gets thicker and thicker and thicker.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Who was your most awkward guest? Because I know like the awkwardness is, who did you think was awkward? I'm naturally uncomfortable everywhere because I feel, I have just bad social anxiety. So naturally going into an, you don't feel awkward doing an interview. It's so weird. I guess you're not getting into a character really either where you're, it's just a weird environment. I'm like snapping into this, this like blunt. dry personality that I'm trying not to smile or anything. And it's like, okay, all right, ready? And then immediately it's like, welcome to the really good podcast. And it's always awkward. There's no. And then the most awkward part ever is when you're done. You, you stop and you're like, all right, that's a wrap. And then everybody is like, okay, let's be normal now. And like, it's just, it's a weird, it's such an awkward thing to do that every single episode is a little bit awkward.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And after, has there been anyone that, like, the awkwardness is dissipated and you've been able to be friends with them and it's fine? I would say most of, like, 99, I don't even know, maybe 100%. I feel like every person I interview, I become somewhat of friends with afterward. So it's fine after it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's just the actual act of doing it is so. It's just uncomfortable for both of us. We're sitting there and it's like people are watching. We're usually doing some sort of activity or something.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And it's just, yeah, so, but I definitely afterward talk to everyone it's normal before. We usually talk and it's normal. It's just that shift on where you're a bit weird. And do they have any kind of prep in terms of the direction you're going to take it in? No, Cuban's not going to just go on a random podcast. Well, they see the episodes prior. They kind of have an idea. But yeah, they either they pick the location or I pick the location or someone on my
Starting point is 00:34:41 team throws out an idea for the location. They know that it's just going to be an awkward, uncomfortable, but they also do know that they have final cut and I never let, I never put anything out there that the guest is uncomfortable. I think that's why I also become friends with, it's not something where I'm trying to catch anyone saying something. I'm never going to try to go viral off of somebody saying something. I know how uncomfortable it can be going on other people's podcast or doing interviews where you have no control over it. And in mind, you sign that of ours. I didn't sign anything, actually. I'm just, I know how uncomfortable it can be, so I try to be very, okay, I'm, I don't know, you do whatever part you want to take out,
Starting point is 00:35:25 if you want to take out, whatever you want to do. It's fine with me. Yeah, so they know when they go in that they can be free to do whatever they want because they can take out anything they want too and that means even if that means they're like I don't like how I said yeah right there or I don't like how I looked like this I'm like all right we'll cut it I will sit there and make sure that everything that they want how you cut it no you have someone cutting yeah but I believe we use um what is it called frame where yeah so they can go in they go in and put in their notes and then my editor will go in and take out whatever they say that's unique but it's a different kind of format because like here we're just like shooting the shit and having a conversation and again
Starting point is 00:36:05 we don't try to make anyone uncomfortable either but I imagine in that format, like for the people going, it's just different for those people as well. It's like a different kind of interview. Well, I think that's why I get people that don't really do interviews because they don't, I get it. I don't, as someone who's done a lot of interviews now, are done podcasts and done other, you know, I am like, oh my God, that is, I get why people don't like doing that or why they don't really want to go on a traditional press run because it's intimidating.
Starting point is 00:36:36 and then also because a lot of people try to catch you saying stuff that. It's funny with like that format. So I think you can get people's story and you can get a lot of what is quote unquote pressworthy without trying to take people out. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. And you don't have to talk about their breakups or their anything if they're not.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Their kids. Their families. Yes, exactly. I only talk about what they bring up. And then and I never try to pry into. anything that I think, unless I have talked to them beforehand, and I'm like, hey, are you okay with this conversation? And then we'll kind of go there.
Starting point is 00:37:14 But sometimes I just take whole conversations out about certain things. And that's why you can be more comfortable when we do mine too, because it's, which is funny, it's awkward, but it's also comfortable. And people say that I show a side of people that people don't often get to see. But you can say whatever. You can get really into the conversation because you know if you want to cut all of that out, it's just going to go.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah, we always say, like, people, you need to have vulnerable conversations or else people tune out. Like nobody wants somebody to come on and just talk about how great they are. But at the same time, like you don't have to do something to...
Starting point is 00:37:44 That makes someone... Especially like I get super fired up when people start going at people's personal lives and their family, especially their kids. Like whenever I see any of these clickbait publications talking about people's children or how they are as parents,
Starting point is 00:37:58 like that stuff just bothers me because there's so much more you can get from an individual in their story without going after people who are kind of like innocent in that story, whether it's their family or their kids. Low-hanging fruit. Yeah, it's just, you know, and I also think it's just lazy journalism in a way. Yeah. Yeah, and it's just, it's boring. Nobody needs to know all those things that,
Starting point is 00:38:19 I don't know. For people that are doing or trying to follow on a similar path that you've done now for your career, what are things you wish that you knew earlier? Like, you've obviously now built a brand and you're building a business around everything that you're, that you've created. Are there things that looking back you would have done differently or you would caution people against as they start to potentially build a career for themselves? I mean, I think I did it in a way that I wouldn't change anything. I never put too much money into it. I never, I didn't go out of my way.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I know a lot of people start podcasts and kind of throw money at it and be like, I never did that. I kind of, my first episode was recorded at a little studio I found in L.A. And I would drive to L.A. and film inside of there. I was $300 to film it. I think that it's just good if you have an idea. It's the same thing with if you have an idea for a product just to kind of test it.
Starting point is 00:39:13 That's what I did. And I think use your resources. I would ask all of my mutuals to be guests on my podcast when it first started. I was like anybody I could think of just, do you want to come on? Can I interview you? Mutuals meaning people that were following. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that we maybe have. had one or two conversations on on the app itself before but yeah I was just asking anyone I think just
Starting point is 00:39:38 also putting yourself out there I have always put myself out there and I'm not afraid of rejection and I think that that's something that's huge is just not being afraid of rejection to shoot your shot I've asked so many people I still get guests in a similar way I mean it's easier obviously now I have people who help me book but if there's someone I'm like oh I would really love to interview I send a DM and I think just back to what I said earlier not being afraid to look stupid. I was not afraid to look stupid. I wasn't afraid to look desperate. I put, I was paying people to get people on there. I used to do things like that on TikTok all the time. I'd be like trying to get brands to comment or just, you know, just doing anything I could because it's like I was,
Starting point is 00:40:26 you have to be okay with looking stupid and embarrassing yourself. I think, one thing you've done really good throughout this whole episode is is exposure therapy. Like you put yourself out there, then you would delete it if it didn't go. Yeah. Put yourself out. It's like you keep doing it. You start to get like almost like numb where you just go and give the show. Yeah, where you don't care anymore.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I know. People used to call me out for it. They'd be like, why have you posted this same video 10 times today? And I'm like, because I know this video can be viral and I'm going to keep trying it until it goes viral. And you guys can just shut up and I would make a story that would be like, if you see me post the same thing, 10 times, be quiet.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Was it like a timing thing or just certain people that it reached? No, just changing the caption, changing the, every, like moving it around, cutting off a few seconds,
Starting point is 00:41:12 maybe starting it on a different word. When I knew a video had potential to be viral, I just had to, but sometimes I would be so confident a video had the potential to go viral and I'd post it 10 times and then it would not work
Starting point is 00:41:24 and I would be like, all right, well, that's super interesting though. So you would take, like say it was a 60 second clip and you would post And if it didn't go viral, you would go change the caption and try that.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Or then you cut the format up. But it would be the same exact piece of content. Yeah, it'd be the same video, but I've now altered it 10 times. We need to take notes on that. That's like a strategist. When I listen to that, I imagine what most people do is they take the time they create that. It doesn't work. And they're like, man, it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:41:46 And they just stopped trying with it. It's like, all that effort's gone. That's 99% of people. I know. I had a friend and she posted this one video on TikTok and she didn't have, like, she doesn't have a lot of followers or anything. And I watched the video and I was like, delete that right now. And she was like, why. And I was like, that can go viral. I promise you it can go viral. And it wasn't. It wasn't. It was like, it was up for three days. It had no views. And I was like delete it because I want to edit it and put it back up. And it's at seven million views now. And I knew watching that video that it could go viral. I know when something is capable. Tell us about the video. So it was my friend Ashley. She posted a video giving her dad a, like she's an esthetician. So she was giving her dad a facial. And in it, he's telling a story. And I was watching it. And I was like, oh, this is.
Starting point is 00:42:29 is such a good story. I just knew when I watched that video, it had the potential to go viral. So I had her take it down. And I think that what I changed was the caption. And it was something, I have my phone somewhere. It was something to the, I think that I had changed it to say, what did I change it to? I don't know what it was to begin with, to be honest, but I think maybe she just had, she definitely just had like a different caption and I went in and I just put on
Starting point is 00:43:03 shit we need to try different captions Michael is the core of it that you just knew that it was a solid piece of content yeah so this was the video oh I changed it to giving my data facial um and that's it that's all I changed I don't know that's it what did it say before that I don't think it had a caption so it was just okay wait the caption you you're talking about the thing on top of the video no oh yeah sorry what does that call it? Yeah, the on-screen text. Got it.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Okay, I thought you meant the caption. No, I'll do that sometimes too. Okay. But yeah, I knew it was, and look, it's like. Ooh, it looks good, though. Yeah, that's a great facial. Yeah, that's a great facial. Yeah, that's a great facial.
Starting point is 00:43:43 No, but it's super interesting because, like, I think about, like, the amount of effort that it takes to go and create any of this stuff, and then just waste it and then just to waste it because you're like, oh, that was silly and nobody watched it. And it's like that video very well could have sat. nothing, but I think you know sometimes, right? Like, this is a good piece of content. You are going to, I need the algorithm to pick it up. I know people, if it got on the right people's for you page, they would want to see this. And it's getting it on the person's for you page, which if that
Starting point is 00:44:13 means saying something stupid, right? Like, I don't know. I, so my example that I told you where I deleted it so many times and it finally ended up getting 20 million views on my like 10th time, it had no views. And by no views, it had like, 100k, 50k. And I was like, that's so stupid. I know this could get 20 million. It was a video I did with Michael Boubley in the very beginning of my, like maybe a year into my career on TikTok. It's a good one with Michael Blue Blay. And then he, it wouldn't go viral though. I could not get it to go viral. I could only get it to get a couple hundred thousand views. And I just kept changing. I changed the caption to something
Starting point is 00:44:48 stupid. And it was like, I can't believe I spent a million dollars on this meeting greet. So just a lie that made it go viral. And it was like, people in the comments were like, oh my God, she spent that much money to see him. I'm like, you guys think I have a million dollars to spend on a meet and greet for Michael Bubele? Like, what are you guys crazy? But like, 20 million views from not going viral at all just to changing that. Got it.
Starting point is 00:45:13 The overlay or the caption? You said that. I don't know. The little bottom thing. The bottom thing. So the caption. Yeah, I don't know. Lexi, what do you refer to as the one on screen?
Starting point is 00:45:23 I would call that like the caption. Yeah. I would call it a caption in like a description. I don't know. know. Like that's the description. Don't ask me. Oh, so I call the one on the, I call the one on the screen, the caption and the one description. It's a description of the video. Nobody's like reading that first. That's going to go to your eyes. I'm just like your eyes are going to go to. That's what I would refer to to a generation. The hell do we know, Lauren. Let's talk about
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Starting point is 00:49:26 Not me. I do not mess around with my ketchup because so many ketchup are filled with sugar and corn syrup and all this stuff. And I use ketchup every day. I like it on my eggs. My kids like it on their burger. We just are like a ketchupy family. And so I use Primal Kitchen. I like their ketchup because it's unsweetened. It's made with real organic California grown tomatoes. There's no high fructose corn syrup. It has no cane sugar, no artificial sweet. It's just the best. If you're on Primal Kitchen, I would also get their mayo. I love their mayo. I put it on Zaza's turkey sandwich all the time. It's so good on a piece of sourdough. It's made from organic cage-free eggs and
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Starting point is 00:51:15 I feel like I'm pretty chilled and laid back in all aspects of my life. I'm pretty chill and laid back mom. I'm like very, but I'm research based. So I guess it's the same. everything me and my kid's dad do is research-based and we I I'm okay with constructive criticism. I don't know, you know, I think it's pretty similar across all boards. Obviously, they don't get like a stale version of me where I'm at home and I'm like, I'm not going to smile, guys.
Starting point is 00:51:44 They don't know that side of me. But yeah, I'm just like chill laid back mom. I don't know. I don't have, but I'm also very well researched and all the chill things I do. I just because I believe that it's to be best for them. Do you mean like you're like looking at what's in their diapers, like cleaning supplies? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Research. I mean like parenting styles. So their dad reads a lot of books. Are they going to say like your specific with ingredients? Like maybe like what you feed them. No. Oh, see. No.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yes, I am. But not to an extreme. I feel like it's, I'm not going to stop them from eating anything in the way. It's so hard, you know. Like if they go to Disneyland, they're going to eat. a churro and a bag of Doritos. It is what it is. I'm going to have to ask AI what this means later.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I talk to my AI and it tells me everything now. What means? What research-based parenting means? It's just where you research? What do you mean? That's truly like it's parenting styles. Yeah. Some parents are gentle.
Starting point is 00:52:44 What's it called? I'm sitting with Bobby Altof. What does research-based parenting mean? Please answer me the same way Bobby Altaff would. How can that content go viral what he just said? What caption should we put on it? I have to see it once it's clipped. Is there anything that we can clip in this episode and put a caption?
Starting point is 00:53:03 Maybe you guys can tell me what we should clip so we could go viral. Just make fun of me. Call me ugly. No. I don't think you're ugly at all. Okay. By the way, anyone that's calling her ugly needs to like figure it out. What is that a troll with no pitcher?
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'm telling you, do you want to go viral? They love to call me ugly. So call me ugly. Look, I'm giving you my permission right now. I'm giving you be like I sat down with the ugliest guest I've ever had. Do you want to go viral or not? No, I don't think I could do that. I don't think what's the challenge?
Starting point is 00:53:33 What if I said the prettiest guest we've ever had? No, but see, you never want to do that because that's just going to, you're now inviting all the comments to shit on me. That's what you're doing by saying that. They're going to sit there and be like, you're not the prettiest. What the fuck is that about? No. You say the ugliest and then you, you'll get the guys who think I'm ugly with them.
Starting point is 00:53:53 There'll be like girls that are like, that's so rude. So if I said, you are the ugliest guest I've ever spoken to on this show. Yeah. That's going to go final. That's going to do it. You're not. You're not. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:54:04 There's been some Argos on this show. So if I say prettiest, it's not going to get any. No, it will. It will. I'm just saying the thought. Go ahead. Say that. Actually, all the people are going to immediately be tearing and being apart in the
Starting point is 00:54:17 comments is all I'm saying. But that's the worst. Bonnie, welcome to the show. The most beautiful, gorgeous. prettiest guest that has ever sat on the him and her show. No, those two. Too, proppy. Yeah, you got to like, make it seem, be like, look at me and just be like,
Starting point is 00:54:32 just be like, should I like relax? No, just be like, honestly, you have to be the prettiest guest I've ever had. I'm like I'm getting you to say this because I, to be, I don't believe this. I don't, I have no reason. She's just saying this. Radio voice off. Honestly, you are the most beautiful guest we've ever had on the show. But now followed up with everyone else was really ugly or something.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Just make it. really mean. It has to be a little bit shocking, you know? Yeah. Okay. Are you trying to go viral or not? Yeah. Everyone else we've had on the show is really ugly. Well, don't make it so you have to cut the clip, start it over. Start it. Oh, you just start the whole thing over. God, you guys. This is a lot of work. I'm sweating. We're going to leave all this in, just so that... Yeah, yeah. You are the most beautiful guests we've ever had on the show. And honestly, everyone else that we've had on has been really ugly. It was so weird of you to say. Why would you? Don't...
Starting point is 00:55:23 compare me to your other guests, please. I don't really want to do that right now. See, there you go. We have had Cindy Crawford on the show. That's crazy. You're going to get... Cindy, I'm sorry. Is that like the thing that they come after you
Starting point is 00:55:36 the most for is the looks? No, it's everything. Oh, it's everything. They just... They love date. They love date. I feel like that's the worst thing. No, it's my personality is annoying.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I'm annoying. Why am I still trying? I'm a horrible. mom. At least they're talking about you. I honestly, yeah, because when it's too quiet, I'm like, excuse me, where are my haters on? Now I'm falling off. You know what it is? And this is going to maybe ruin some of the, some of the stick for you, is that what you do, I know, is not effortless, but it looks effortless and it looks like it just happened by accident. And so people look at that, and they're like, well, this is not fair that this person is just having all of this by accident.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I do think that that is a large part. A lot of people think, I mean, that was one in that whole industry, plant rumor started. People just thought, oh, this girl woke up, got handed this opportunity, and why can't that happen to me? And it's like, don't get me wrong. I've gotten lucky a lot, but I've also put in so much work to get lucky. And I put myself in places to get lucky all the time. You guys aren't doing that. You're not, it's not as easy as if I just stop right now, right? And I'm like, all right, I'm just going to let everything. I'm going to let my podcast just kind of like, I'm just going to do the bare minimum. I will be so irrelevant in three minutes.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I am not, I have to keep working towards gaining relevance, staying relevant. Anyone you see that stays in the spotlight for, they're working at it every day. I forgot that they thought you were an industry plant. I saw that. So they thought that someone from Hollywood. Yeah. Well, and then, you know what I did actually? I did an interview with Belvin, Jay Belvin.
Starting point is 00:57:20 and in it I was in character and I go yeah I got a call it was so dumb I was like yeah I got a call actually one day from the industry I don't even know what the fuck the rumor is like or what the idea is of that but I was like yeah I got a call one day and they said give me your first born boy I just something so stupid like give me your first born child and exchange for fame and um that's what I did the comments were like I fucking told you guys I told you that's what happened I was like oh you guys so yeah it happened I they're like she's so her soul. Like, okay. So people actually thought like Hollywood the... I don't, I guess is that what an industry plan is? I think it's, I think actually I take it. Maybe I'm an industry. Maybe I am. Um, no. I
Starting point is 00:58:03 think what it is, it's me. I did it. Well, I think what it is is when someone spots you maybe and starts putting a lot of money into you, right? Like in the industry, they're like, oh, I see a star rising. Let me throw a lot of money into you. I think that is from what I gather, what it kind of is, but at no point did anybody throw large amounts of money or any amount of money at me. I have been doing this with I. If I was a plant, I'm missing the money part of the part where they just, I'm like the money that I've had I have worked for. I've gotten. I don't get me wrong again. I always have to add that because I know what people are going to say. They're like, you have the easiest job. This is so much easier than a nine to five. This is so much easier than anything else,
Starting point is 00:58:44 but it doesn't, it doesn't just come to me either. I still have to work for it. She's not an industry, plant, you guys. I know that's going to be hard. But we don't know that one. I don't think she is. I'm really good at like... You're really good at reading people? Yeah. I'm just really good at like sussing out plants. No, I think I would
Starting point is 00:59:04 know if it was a plant. I'm just telling you I would know. I want to tell the internet. I would know if she was a plant and she's not. Lauren will establish herself as an expert in any field at any given notice. Good for her. Yeah, good for me. That's a confidence that is as important. I'm a faceted. Like, what do you want me to say about?
Starting point is 00:59:20 I got it. She doesn't. She'll work for the government. Okay. I have to ask you about your beauty tips. My beauty tips. I know. After you called me ugly? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Your hair, skin, nails, wellness. What are your tips? Hmm. My skin? Um, well, I don't know, guys. I have the acne. So I don't know if you want tips from me. People are always like, your skin's so clear.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I'm like, you guys are, this is how. filtered TikTok is, it's good sometimes. I will say for like one week out of, it's okay right now. But this is a, I have dealt with acne since I was 12 years old and on a good day I can like have, you know, under 10 zits on my face. That's a great day for me. I'm like, oh my God, I can count them. That's amazing. But my beauty tip is like I haven't figured it out yet for skin. But I do wear sunscreen every day because I'm not going to age at least. I will just have acne. You want to look 27 at 38.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Exactly. Yeah, I wear sense of me. You must. You have no anything. Your skin is just perfect. Well, I really work at my skin. Like a night. Do you?
Starting point is 01:00:32 What do you do? I get facials once a week. I'll be back on your hour. I go every two weeks. Okay. So, I mean, you're doing it. I do everything. Oh, I should not have a single zit on my face.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I try everything. I take all the vitamins. I drink all the spirament tea. But I think I'm finally turning a new, is it a new leaf? Is that the same? It is. I'm turning a new leaf on my skin. It's starting to become healthier. I, I'm just following so many things and actually staying with them. I started taking spyrnalactone and I'm like taking that every day. I started trying to know in on my skin. I'm like, I'm not playing with it. But what are the products that you like right now? Right now,
Starting point is 01:01:12 I feel like I mostly use Jan Marini. Yeah. That's a good brand. Really good brand. I would say that's mainly what I use and then um the waroche stuff like their lotion and stuff i feel like you're doing everything right oh i am tell my pores that when i need to get you an ice roller though we have one for you you need an ice roller because an ice roller especially if you ever have a pimple it's so cooling okay i'll take all the free things i love we have some free things for you i'll never be about getting free stuff what the fuck is that there are balls that you put on your face in the morning and they contour your face. That's so interesting. I have some mouth tape for you. You know, I have that at home. I've never used it. At no point do I just want to like stop being able to talk at night. Oh,
Starting point is 01:01:58 you've never lived with my husband. Are you kidding me? You don't want to just shut it off? Like I do not deserve. Well, when I have like the nights my kids are with me, they'd sleep in my bed. So. Yeah, but they go to bed before you. Yeah. And then I fall, no, they fall asleep. We fall asleep at these same time. Oh. 8.30. My daughter's first words when I open my eyes is, Mom, can you take your mouth tape off? Oh my gosh. No, I can't imagine. I fall asleep with my kids. I don't know how parents make it out
Starting point is 01:02:29 after that, you know? I've never been one that can make it out after bedtime. I've never... Like go out to the club? No, out of the room. Out of the bed. Yeah, I'm a 7. I'm a 7.30, 8.30 kind of gal. As soon as my kids fall asleep, I don't care. That's why I have to wash my face before I start putting them to sleep because I I'm so good at putting them to sleep.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I put myself to sleep. Those stories, they just, they just say. The songs I sing, they just get me too. I get it when my kids fall asleep. I'm like, oh, okay. What can we expect for you? Like, what's the next chapter? You said your second series comes out.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Is that what you call it a series? No season. Season. Your second season comes out. Fourth, but yeah. Fourth? Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Good research, Lauren. Great research. Good job. Guys, I thought you said your second. No. You're fourth. one really long season I've had. Your show comes out on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Yes. Okay. So what can we expect? A lot of, a lot of, you know, I'm trying to go back more to the original, which was just a bit more of the, I feel like I got out of character for a minute there for a few episodes. I was just being, I don't know, I just got out of character. I started to get, I guess, I don't know what the word would be, but insecure of the character because of comments. right because they're like oh that person's rude she's whatever but then i realize that's what grew my page and that's what is fun to do and it's obviously not me and the guest is in on it so i've gotten back into just being more blunt again and just having it be more of a character and cutting it down to those so if if i'm editing a podcast and there's like too much of us being normal and like cut that can't go in i think that's good you're owning the character and yeah let me give you the
Starting point is 01:04:14 reverse they're like she's so nice or they don't say anything thing. You like want to like spark a reaction in that. Yeah. I think I think you should be as mean as you want. It's a character. It's going to happen again. You guys know that I live in fear of like saying the wrong thing that could get clipped wrong. But I, because I'm like, I don't want to have an opinion that people disagree with ever, which is hard. Where can everyone find you, slide into your DMs, flirt with you? Oh, I love this. Where can they slide into my DMs? I don't know. That's, I feel like everyone meets people like that. That's how I'm going to meet my future. You're going to slide into someone's DM? No, they're going to slide into mine. Good. You like the guy to court you?
Starting point is 01:04:54 That would be great. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's pretty rare. It's slim pickings out there right now. Guys don't think they have to court girls anymore. I don't agree. I feel like that's common, right? Guys slide into people's DMs. I don't know. She's saying she wants to be courted and she wants guys. I turned off DMs from people without verified accounts because I was like, I don't. Oh, so they have to be verified. Yes, but anybody can be, right? Don't you just verify now by paying to be like a per- But I just eliminated all the mean people Like people who are generally are like DMing mean things
Starting point is 01:05:25 Do not pay the amount Not if there was a guy that has a hundred followers Barely any posts that's amazing that's not verified Then I might just have to turn that feature off for him No, it's just I'll have to find me some other way You never know I don't leave my house ever so I don't know how besides I don't know someone
Starting point is 01:05:46 DMs, I feel like will be hot for you. Do you? Yeah, I feel like your DMs are hot. Like, I feel like there's a lot going on in the DMs. Do you? Yeah, she can't give us straight. They're. For sure.
Starting point is 01:05:56 I just feel like that's the new age of... Let him, tell them to get in line. Get in line, guys. We've covered a lot of ground. Bobby, you're great on a mic. Come back anytime you want. I'm going to get you some mouth tape and see. Did you just read that?
Starting point is 01:06:12 No. Did it look like I did? Yeah, kind of. Yeah. That's fully. I was like, we wrote. thought. No. We wrote Bobby, you're great.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I was like, do you have a script? Thank you for coming in and doing this. Congratulations. Thank you for having me. Season four, go check it out. Do I get all of that stuff? You could have whatever you want. Let's get you all kinds of stuff. You said in the beginning that you wanted free stuff that influencers have, so
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