The Bossticks - Camila Coelho On Her Struggle With Epilepsy, Entrepreneurship, & How She Went From Working At A Department Store To Building A Global Brand

Episode Date: December 22, 2020

#315: On this episode we are joined by Camila Coehlo. Camila is a celebrity influencer, entrepreneur, and founder of Elaluz. On this episode we discuss how Camila got her start as an influencer who eventually turned into an entrepreneur and brand founder. We discuss the struggles Camila has overcome in her life and how she has lived and thrived with epilepsy. We also discuss how she went from working at a department store to building and founding a global brand.  To connect with Camila Coelho click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by No Days Wasted Their hero product is called DHM Detox, which is the vitamin for people who like to enjoy their drinks. It's designed to help you bounce back the next day. Get 20% off your order and free shipping in the US. Just head over to www.NoDaysWasted.CO/SKINNY and use promo code "SKINNY" at checkout This episode is brought to you by Canopy Canopy is a completely reimagined humidifier that elevates your home for the ultimate in skincare and wellness benefits. Skincare experts and dermatologists have long touted the benefits of increased indoor humidity for healthy, glowing skin. Canopy's features and design make it the cleanest and easiest humidifier out there go to www.getcanopy.co to save $25 on your Canopy purchase today when you opt in to a replacement filter subscription. Use code SKINNY10 at checkout to save an additional 10% off your Canopy purchase. This episode is brought to you by Wealthfront No One is great at something the first time they try it. And if you're unfamiliar with investing, getting started can be intimidating. Wealthfront does the work for you, so you can invest like an expert from the beginning. Right now, you can visit www.wealthfront.com/SKINNY to get your first $5,000 managed for FREE, for life! Produced By Dear Media 

The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

People with a voice and a platform, it's very important that we share our struggles, that we share, you know, the things we go through so that, you know, people who are watching us know that, you know, we're just like them and that their life is okay. Like we all go through struggles. We all go through difficult things. I've been trying to do that a lot. Welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her show.

That clip was from our guest of the show today. Camilla Coelho. She is an entrepreneur, the founder of a new up-and-coming beauty line, and she's an epilepsy ambassador and board member. You also might recognize her from Instagram because she has 9 million followers, which is crazy. She's a badass and she really opens up on this episode. And I'm here for it because I am in the fifth dimension. You're already there.

Yeah. Have you heard about this, Michael? You've been telling me about it. I think I don't want to, I don't know if I want to go or not. I've been pretty good here. What are we in the third or the fourth? Zaza and I are going to the fifth dimension. Does anyone know what we're talking about?

Because I don't know what we're talking about. So on the 21st, there was a great awakening, okay? I think I'm going to probably flub this. All the planets were aligned and something with the sun and the stars. And it's never been like this in the entire world. No, that's not true. I think it's been like this like 200 years ago. Wait, how do I know more about this than you?

I don't know. You don't even know what we were talking about. I just know that there's a great awakening happening and you are supposed to ascend. Ouch. Looks like you're not going to make it if you don't even know when it's about. I'm in the fifth dimension. No, I think you might have got left behind. I've been here for a while, I think. No. So today and yesterday we're supposed to meditate, write down our intentions, charge our crystals, get really good

sleep, eat organic food, drink water. This is a real thing. So like you're supposed to do that stuff like pretty much every day, right? No, but this is different. Oh, it's a great awakening. Okay. So I'm speaking to you guys from the fifth dimension. Zaza and I are already there. Michael, I don't know if you made it. I don't know if I want to make it. I mean, I either made it and I'm there and everything's fine or I didn't and everything's fine. Okay. That's how I feel. Well, Zaza and I will be there.

Boone's there too. Boone is for sure ascending. Wait, hold on. I'm getting a message from the seventh dimension. I'm already in the seventh, Lorne. The fifth. I skipped the fifth. I skipped the fifth, sixth.

I'm in the seventh. Okay. I can't. So one of the reasons that I really respect Camilla as an influencer is that she started her own company. And I think there's not enough talk about that in the influencer space. Because as a creator, you're essentially self-employed working for yourself, but it's a whole other layer to build your own company. Michael and I've been having these conversations all the time because you get back

your time when you build a company. Maybe not at first, but overall longevity, you get your time back. Well, I think one thing to define this is, you know, you can have like, as an influencer, you can have a quote unquote company. But to me, that's a little bit more like a solopreneur, right? The whole business is reliant on you. Like if you stop creating or you stop doing like the business falls apart, to me, a company is something that's an organization of people that's not reliant on one person that could be, you know, built and transferred as an asset to somebody else and also can run while you're not, you know, a part of it.

Like you can go somewhere, someone like Lauren could go somewhere and the company keeps running without her. You know, as an influencer, it's hard as a, because you're essentially, you have your own company, but you're a solopreneur and all of the work is depend on you. And if you take off and stop creating, then the whole business falls apart. So to me, a company, not to take anything away from creators, is an entity that you can build that is not solely dependent on you, that you can transfer to another owner if need be. And that's what Camilla did. She created Elluluz and it's clean, cruelty-free, vegan, gluten-free beauty. Okay, it's available at Netaporte,

Revolve and Sacks. It's absolutely gorgeous. They have this magical oil. She has like this lip balm. That's super glittery. Definitely check it out on Instagram. It's at Ella Luz. And she's also obviously still a creator. And then she also has a clothing line. Okay. You can buy this on Revolve, super cute clothes. She's crushing it. And I have always loved when influencers and creators in our space take it to another level because it opens up space for everyone, right? So Terry Cruz, there's a story that he says on Tim Ferriss. He was driving down sunset and he saw a huge billboard of Tom Cruise. And in it, Tom Cruise was in this huge movie. And Terry noticed, he was automatically jealous. And then he realized it's actually an amazing thing that Tom Cruise was

in this superstar hit movie because it opened up more space for men actors. I look at the influencer space in the same way. I just feel like she's breaking barriers, opening new doors, and it's very exciting. So with that, let's welcome Camilla entrepreneur, badass founder to the show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. I'm so excited. who we're in the studio with today because I feel like this episode is going to be so aspirational and inspirational. You grew up in Brazil. Yes. Let's go way back and like before you were this like bomb-ass business woman. Tell us about your childhood. Okay, thank you. I'm so happy to be here with you guys. I have like a vibrator next to me. I have a whole thing going on here. Going back to Brazil,

I'm really proud of like where I come from my childhood days. I've got. I've, grew up in a very small town of Brazil, the state of Minas Gerais, a town where like everybody knows each other, like very small, where I had very limited access to like things in the world in general, but I was very free. I remember like going out to my grandfather's farm and like going up the mango tree and like chatting with my cousins and I was just like a very free child growing up surrounded by nature and you know playing outside all the time and I've always I was always a beauty lover it was in my blood my passport photo when I was six years old I had a red lipstick on a bold red lipstick on that I got from my grandmother but yeah growing up in this small town in Brazil in general like

the warm culture have so many amazing memories of it and then I moved to the US when I was 14 with my family. Seeing my mom work so hard after a divorce, a tough divorce, inspired me to be independent early. Coming from such a small town in a humble background really gave me strength to like, almost like, you know, you move to America, this whole new world, new language, new everything. and I've always been very proud to be Brazilian the way I grew up. But, you know, after I moved to the U.S., I just really wanted to be independent. And I think it was by looking at my mom and what she was doing to raise her kids that really inspired me to be independent early.

I'm so proud that I was raised in Brazil and I'm proud of my country. And, yeah, I always try to like, you know, Whenever I'm meeting someone, I'm like, yeah, I'm from Brazil, you know, like I'm so proud. What are some things that you miss about Brazil? I miss the food, number one, a lot. I mean, I try to cook Brazilian food here. I always do my pound jukega, which I should have brought to you guys. It's amazing.

It's like a cheesy bread. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't like to call it cheese bread because I want to, like, you know, people to know what pound de keizu is, but it's amazing. I'll bring it in next time, I promise. The food and family. I have a huge family in Brazil. Like I have 40 cousins only on my dad's side.

Yeah, it's a lot of us. And yeah, I miss family a lot, but I tried to go to Brazil at least three times a year. What were the circumstances behind the move? Like, why did you guys to decide to come to the U.S. when you were so young? It was my mom's decision, really. I remember my parents together. It was, you know, great. But then, unfortunately, they got divorced and things are really hard on my family.

mom on us. We no longer had the support of my dad as we used to. And, you know, my mom had her brother living here in the U.S. with restaurant business and she decided to move, really to provide us a better life. And it was here in California or? No, it was, it was in Scranton, Pennsylvania. But often. So I lived there for four years. I mean, that's a big contrast compared Scranton and Brazil. Imagine like Brazil, tropical going to Scranton. I felt like an outcast really when I, but I had great memories of Scranton, like high school, but it was really hard for me in the beginning for sure to like fit in, you know.

What was your first job? My first job was at a restaurant as a boss girl. Do you say bus girl, bus girl? Busser, yeah, I think so. Yeah, like you, I'm like, I'm like, mom, I just need a job and I was like waiting for that moment to like be able to get a job because I heard this is not common in Brazil to like work when you're in school but it's very common in America right and I was talking to one of my friends in school they're like yeah I'm getting a part-time job and I remember I was like applying for cheerleading

at the time and I gave up to cheerleading because I did want to work like I saw my mom working so hard and I just wanted I felt bad like asking her for money on the weekends and she told me she was like Camilla you're way too young you don't need to like we're fine and I'm fine like giving you money on the weekends, but I wanted to have that taste of independence. Like, it was already in me. And my first job was I applied at a restaurant and I was like, okay. And then I noticed I was like, you know, cleaning off the tables, like getting the dirty plates out, like carrying this bucket of heavy plates around. But I was happy. Like I was, I felt proud of myself that I was independent at like probably 16. I was 15, 16. I don't know. I think it was 15

or 16 that I could work. So yeah, that was my first job. I heard a rumor that you used to work behind the counter. I want to say Nordstroms. Is that true? So, yeah. So that was my first job after high school. I worked at a Dior counter at Macy's, the department store. Which is so incredible because don't you now work with Dior as a brand as an influencer? So it's really full circle. Really full circle. And you want to know a really full circle story. Dior was the first brand. to invite me to Paris for the Hot Couture show. So I was sitting front row with Dior. In that moment, I remember 2014,

I could, like, cry that day because, you know, really my story with social media started behind the counter. It was, you know, from working at that counter, hustling there that I decided to become a makeup artist. I saw how empowering and transformative beauty is by working at that counter. You know, you're like,

people from different backgrounds with different needs would arrive. and they will all walk out with a smile on their faces. And that was the best part of my day. I hated the retail hours. I hated, you know, like retail is tough. And I was hustling, but that made my day each every single day, like at that counter. So I decided to become a makeup artist.

And it was during my makeup artist years that I found social media, found YouTube. And I finally created my first YouTube video. This is back in 2010. I want you to talk on it a little bit because I think there's a lot of people that will look at you in the platform you've built and look at Lauren the platform she's built and they'll start to compare themselves as to where they are now compared to where you guys are now. But they forget that it's many, many years of work and under circumstances too when you guys didn't have the resources you have now. I mean, you were working another job and basically doing

social as a side hustle, correct? Exactly. And I want you to talk about that because I think it's aspirational and also inspirational for people to learn like no matter where they are, they can get started and work towards, you know, what you've built. 2010 people were using YouTube to watch music videos right and I remember when I saw this one video I was there to watch a music video and then this one video popped up which was Candy Johnson at the time she's actually from LA love her and this girl was like teaching me I was watching the video right so teaching me how to do my makeup and I was like wait this is fantastic I could actually do videos since I'm a makeup artist I could do videos and help out my family

Like my sister that always wants a 101 and learn tricks, my friends and family. And I finally decided to do it. But then I remember even my friends questioning me like, what are you really doing? You're like, this is crazy. You're just putting videos out there. Like no one understood it. So in the beginning, it was really hard. Especially like, you know, I guess I was working.

That was like my hobby. I was still working full time with beauty as a makeup artist. But I was doing that as a hobby. They didn't know it was going to become something. But then when it started becoming something, I remember getting my first box of makeup at home from Nick's cosmetics. Like I was, oh my God, I'm getting free product. This is crazy. Like I did not imagine it would become something one day.

But of course, like throughout the months, after I created my blog especially and started sharing more content, not just beauty, but also fashion lifestyle, writing every day. My community started growing more and being more engaged. I remember I really wanted to go into the. the fashion industry as well. And especially in the fashion industry, it was really hard for back then to like prove yourself and prove to brands and people that, okay, this is something. Like we're legit. Like we're creators and it's not like we're, you know, back then you see the name bloggers, you would see in people's faces. People would like cringe a little bit. Do you remember the Vogue article that came out? It was like, which one? There was a Vogue article

that was bashing bloggers. A lot of bloggers spoke up. I remember. I'm sure. And this was already like a few years after I went, like, I had already gone through so many things. I'm like trying to prove myself. But I remember clearly that article. So how, what did you do when you broke into the industry and people were having a bad taste about bloggers? For me, it was different than you because my main focus isn't fashion. Yeah. So I can only imagine showing up at all these huge shows and people snubbing you when you're working your ass off to create content.

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But for other people, it ends up kind of defeating them. And I think like to hear you say it's important for people to think when people tell you know you should hear yes in your head and you should push harder. Exactly. Same thing happened with podcasting. People are like, what the hell is a podcast when we started this? And now it's like this podcast establish a network. People are now won't stop talking about podcasts.

It's actually kind of annoying now. But in the beginning, they're like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. No, but it definitely exactly what you said. It has made me so much stronger. It made me so much stronger throughout the years. And it gave me more strength to like do better and be better and like and be innovative. But it was hard.

It was definitely hard. It wasn't like, you know, today that you see social media and you see influencers and and creators and know that that is a business. Back then it was like a few years like trying to prove it. Not trying to prove it. Like doing it and being rejected, being looked at different and but still doing it to, you know, later on see results. What about other bloggers?

Like I said, I've never been to a fashion show. That's just, that's not like my landscape of what I've done. But I can only imagine coming into the fashion shows and there's other bloggers that maybe are catty. How did you deal with that? Oh my gosh. Great question. I've had that a lot in the beginning.

But because I came from a beauty background, I feel like when I was stepping into fashion, girls were like, no, you're, you're always going to be a beauty influencer. Like, you don't belong in fashion. I felt that a lot of times they never set it to my face. But I felt that in ways where like, okay, we're sitting together watching a show and they would invite everyone around them. Oh, let's go to dinner and they would invite me. And this was like, you know, and at the time, I was like, okay, that's fine.

but I felt like they were excluding me from it. And it's funny because, you know, life goes on and then the same people come and like they want to collab with you later and they want to do stuff together. So, I mean, all of that gave me strength. And it gave me like, it gave me strength to be better and to do better and to prove myself. So, I mean, that happens. It doesn't happen a lot. In the beginning, it did happen to me.

But today I can complain, you know, I have great relationships with so many people. But I can count, like, maybe a couple that were kind of catty to me. You know, what's funny is we've had, like, I'd say, like, fashion influencers and bloggers on this show, right? And their story is when they broke in and got into, like, the fashion landscape and started going to shows that the traditional, like, fashion people snubbed them. And then you're telling a story about how when they were there, like, and a beauty person comes in, they snub. And it's just funny how things work. But, you know, you got to be careful who you snub on the way up because you never know what's going to happen with someone. I always tell people.

How about everyone's just nice to everyone? Yeah, because. Like, it's not that hard. And I tell people all the time, like, when you, right when you feel you're at the top, like there's somebody below you that is super hungry and willing to do whatever they can to get to that level. And like, you can't get comfortable at the top. You always got to be nice to everybody because you never know, like somebody that works for you.

You could end up one day working for them. Exactly. Exactly. When did you know, holy shit, this is a business? Like, I need to really take this seriously and run it like a business. How early on? actually early on. I remember 2010. I started doing videos just hobby. 2011, I created my blog. And that's when like, you know, the first 12 days, we got more than 150,000 unique visitors on the blog, which was an insane number. I would say 2012, beginning of 2012. That's when actually my husband came in and that's when things are real. I was like, I need help. I was getting offers from brands to like advertise their product. And I remember at the time was, even if it was, even if it was, just like, okay, you're getting a percentage of the sales, you know how they used to do,

kind of like reward style today, right? And it started really getting, I think, yeah, a year and a half after I started, which was quick, I think, because, I mean, again, back in 2010, this was super new. But I was very committed. The moment I created my blog, I was committed. I was like, in order for people to come back, I need to be consistent. And I had this. mindset really in the beginning. I need to be consistent on every platform that I use. I need to be consistent, especially on my blog, because this is the hub of everything. And if I don't post every day, at least Monday to Friday, people are not going to remember me, right? And this is my mindset in the beginning. It still is today. Like on YouTube, for example, I used to do YouTube's twice a week.

Today I'm not so consistent. And I see the difference from back then to now because today I have so much other so many other things going on but being consistent was so important for me and being on all different platforms i you know i was using twitter instagram didn't even exist before until 2012 but then i remember uh instagram coming up and i got the app i was posting there i was posting everywhere facebook youtube all the platforms i was using to come because there's different people in each platform right and some people love facebook they maybe don't use instagram so much. So I was trying to get everyone. And that was kind of like my strategy in the beginning. And that's what I think also helped me grow faster in the beginning, the consistency and the

being present in all social medias. Besides consistency now in 2020, what do you think makes an influencer stand out? And it doesn't even have to be an influencer, just any kind of creator. Yeah. I think what makes a creator stand out today is being authentic, number one. When I say being authentic is not just like being yourself and who you are, but being authentic to like true to you, like, who are you working with? Is it organic that, you know, what are the brands you're advertising? Is it products or a brand that you truly believe in? And your followers, and this is also a mindset that I had since the beginning. Like when I was making no money, I was saying no's already because there are certain things that would come in that I was like, how can I do that?

And maybe it wasn't, you know, a brand that I already liked, but the product I didn't like. And one thing I always did was to try product before I say yes to an offer. And I think that is number one, like earning your followers trust, right? And I used to think if I mess it up, if I don't be real with them now, they're going to see a long term. And I want this to be long term. So it was very important for me to say no's in the beginning until now. So I think being authentic, working hard. A lot of people think that being an influencer is easy.

So much work, you know it. There's just so much that goes, you know, it's very overwhelming. I mean, don't get me wrong. I love it. There's a lot of, you know, glamorous moments. I think it's an easy way for people to discredit. Like, they'll look at someone like you and say like, you know, well, I could do that, but it's easy.

Like, it just must be so easy. And it's a way to discredit and invalidate what you do. And it's a harder truth to face like, oh, shit, that's a lot of work, right? Because a lot of people don't want to put in that work. Yeah. And, you know, you're basically in the beginning when I didn't have a team really, I was everything. Like I was my, I was the creator. I was the like you're really doing everything.

You're writing. And it's so much pressure too and so much responsibility. I always say the bigger you are, the more responsibility you have to inspire people in a positive way. So like think two, three times before writing a caption. Like how are you going to impact people in a positive way by what you're posting? Not that you can't be organic and like fun, of course you can, but I always think in the back of my mind, like, how is this content going to affect people? There's people of different culture, different ages that are watching me. A big responsibility that I have too is to talk about my real life struggles and show people that, you know, my life is imperfect.

I feel like a lot of people with a big voice have been doing that a lot throughout the last years. but it became social media i don't know if you remember this or if you felt this you guys like maybe two years back social media was only about like the glamorous life the glamorous things and i remember even an article came out about like the amount of teenagers having depression because of social media like you're only seeing like this perfect life you know if i have a bad day i don't like to look at social media because it's just you know the filter of everyone's perfect life that does not exist. There's no such thing as a perfect life.

Everyone goes through struggles and difficult things. But us, like, people with the voice, is that my phone? Is that the vibrator? No, it's right. Oh, I'm so sorry. It's my phone. Is that the vibrator? It wants to work.

I was worried. It was the vibrator. It was like, oh, shit. So people with a voice and a platform, it's very important that we share our struggles, that we share, you know, the things we go through to. for that, you know, people who are watching us know that, you know, we're just like them and that their life is okay. Like, we all go through struggles. We all go through difficult things. I've been trying to do that a lot. What are some struggles that you've shared with your audience

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the fashion week that I have cried and a lot of times after an event that I'm meeting like only people that want to see me there but then afterwards I have a breakdown not because I'm not happy but just because it's a lot of energy it's it's very overwhelming everything we do and all the energy we put into all we do and content specially is a lot so showing that is very important but I think the biggest thing I've shared with my community was about my epilepsy journey I was diagnosed at age nine and my whole life I kept it for myself I did struggle a lot when I was a teenager and I was able thankfully on my 20s I was able to accept it accept myself you know it was during my 20s that I started on social media and I always thought that it was

okay to not share but then again last year it was a big year that I thought, okay, it was kind of bothering me. I knew it was kind of the only thing I had never shared with my followers. And I knew also that it would not only be liberating to me to just let that out, although it would be scary, but that I will probably be able to help a lot of people. Not those, only those living with epilepsy, which there's a lot of us, one out of 26 people, are diagnosed with epilepsy through all their lives. But those people who struggle with accepting themselves with their life problems, you know.

So I share that in February of this year, which was epilepsy month, and it was the best thing I did. It was very scary to do it. I just didn't know exactly what type of, because there's still such a huge stigma out there. For someone that doesn't know a lot about epilepsy, can you speak on it? What is it like on a day-to-day? Is it something that affects you every single day or just when it happens? Like describe what it's like living with it. So there's various different types of epilepsy. Like I myself, I have this rhythmia, but there's many different types of epilepsy and many different levels as well. So me and you, we could have this with me in the same type of epilepsy, but we could have different levels of it. Yours could be severe. Mine can be more controlled. And when I say that is mine is thankfully more controlled.

Every time, if I'm on medicine, I've never had a seizure. So every time I had a seizure in my life was when I was off medicine because the doctor recommends you to be off medicine every four years just to see if you still need it. But there's a lot of people, children especially, who have seizures every day, even on medicine. Even though I know that mine is controlled, I'm still scared. When I have a really bad headache, when I feel dizzy,

I get... Something might come on. Yeah. There's things that you're- Yeah. If you're driving, do you get nervous when you're driving? No, I don't get nervous if I'm driving, but then if I have a really bad headache and I'm driving, then I'll get scared.

And I'll probably stop the car and have my husband drive. What I'm trying to say is there's so many people who live with it on their daily lives. they don't know if they're going to have a seizure on an event in front of everyone. You don't know. And the doctor's like, and there's children who still don't know the cure or the right medicine for their type of epilepsy. What does it feel like when you have a seizure? Do you not remember?

I remember all of them. My first one, each one of them were different. I've had it while I was sleeping. But a lot of people ask me that, does it hurt? What do you feel? For me, it's not like even a relief to say, oh, it doesn't. it doesn't hurt, I don't feel anything because I know it hurts the people who are watching it, much more than it hurts me. Like, I don't feel anything. It's almost like I went to sleep.

Some of them I see my, like my first one, I was nine. My fingers started closing one by one by itself. And I couldn't control. I couldn't open it. It was just closing my hand. And that's when I ran to my friend's mom. I was at her house playing with her. She saw something was wrong. And I remember, I remember myself, like, fainting in her arms. And the next thing I remembered that day was my mom calling my name, were probably on the way to the hospital, and I couldn't respond to her. And that was the most traumatizing thing for me

because, like, I knew I was fine, but she didn't. And from that moment on, I never wanted to have a seizure in front of anyone because I knew how much was going to hurt them. Sorry. Okay. But, you know, it doesn't hurt me, but I know how much families struggle with, you know, having people or children or whoever in their family who has a epilepsy. I always say, like, it's not only about the person who has a epilepsy.

It's the whole family. Like, they're heroes. And a lot of people, a lot of families are dealing with this on every, day basis, like taking care of that person. Unfortunately, not everyone is like my case who gets to live a normal life. Like I, a lot of people are with epilepsy are sensitive to flash, to lights, or they can't go to a concert. So imagine me like, you know, being photographed and being at events, but I'm okay with that. It's different. Answering your question, for every person is different. There's different levels. There's different types. And if you're,

If anyone wants to know a bit more about epilepsy in general, I'm today a board member of the Epilocy Foundation, which I'm really proud of, and trying to help them, you know, raise awareness and funds and bring awareness and end stigma, really. Because a lot of people, you still say, like, until this day, I mean, growing up in a small town, especially, like, oh, I have a epilepsy. My daughter has a epilepsy. People will look at you like, oh, my gosh, is she a bit crazy? Can she process things right? And it's not that. You know, there's different types. There's different levels. Do they know what brings it on? Like, is it stress?

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And one of the things, you know, I've always tried to do a fashion week. A lot of times I have to say no to events or to opportunities because I know I need to get my rest. I know I need to get like my sleep in. at least. And, you know, there are times that I sleep five hours a night, but then I need to take another two days to sleep really well just to prevent. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but I don't want to take the chance, right? If you're diagnosed, those are the things that will trigger the seizure the most. And you don't drink alcohol, I read. No. Yeah. No alcohol ever.

Ever because of my epilepsy. Does that trigger it too? Well, if you drink alcohol, it will take the effect of your medicine a little bit. So, I mean, if I drink a little bit of alcohol, you won't, but doctors recommend you not to drink because they don't know how much you're going to drink, right? So I never, I remember when I was diagnosed, actually, this is a funny story. My doctor said to me, nine years old, Camilla, so the only thing you cannot do is drink alcohol. And I laughed. I was like, ha, ha, ha, you know, I don't want to drink alcohol. I thought he was going to say you can't play a certain game or you can go on a row. coaster and I remember that was like I was fine with that until my teenage years I mean that

that was when I really struggled you know I moved to the US this different country different language I was trying to fit in already and my friend started partying and I couldn't drink I just you know my mom always told me don't drink I wanted to do it and when you're secure about something it's not really like I wanted to drink alcohol I just wanted my friends to see me equal like them. And I've gotten many things like, oh, why don't you drink? Are you scared? Are you, is there something wrong with you? And all of those things would make me feel very insecure and different. And it got to a point that I sat on my bed and I remember this day clearly and I talked to myself and God like, I'm not going to have seizures. And I said, I'm not going to have seizures anymore. I'm going to be

cured and I'm going to stop my medicine. I didn't accept. it. I mean, the fact, it was one medicine, right, a day, and I didn't accept it. So I ended up having, after a few months, I had a seizure in high school in front of all of my friends. And I remember waking up in the hospital and just crying, like bawling. And I looked at my mom, and I didn't even, I was so ashamed of what I did. Did she think you were taking the medicine? Yeah, she didn't know. I took it away. And I thought to myself, she's going to be so mad. I can't even look at her. And we had the best conversation that day. And one of the things I say, you know, if you're struggling, especially as a teenager, share with your family, share with your friends, share with those who love you

because they can help you. My mom didn't know I was struggling, and that's why she didn't help me. So what she said to me in the hospital was so meaningful. She said to me, Camilla, there's people fighting for their lives every single day. There's people with epilepsy who have seizures who take medicine like you and still have several seizures a day. You are able to take one medicine and know that you will be okay and know that that one pill is going to control your seizures. So how lucky are you? And I heard her saying that, and it was almost like it completely changed the way I felt about my condition. I mean, it wasn't

overnight, but I kept thinking about that every single day until it got to a moment that I was like, I am so blessed. I am so lucky. And it made me accept myself. And it made me accept myself. and love myself the way I was and realize that everyone in this world has a different challenge and different struggle. And that was mine. And yeah, that was the hardest part of my journey. But then, you know, throughout the years I decided to share because it was, it's still like a little weight on my shoulders.

I bet you've helped a lot of people. Because you've a huge reach. Hopefully I did, yeah. The amount of messages I got, the amount of people who shared their stories with me, was incredible. It helped me out a lot too, especially now that I'm thinking of having a family, having a baby. This past year has been such a big year for us for me and Icaro because we want to have a child and it's also very sensitive when you have to take medicine. You can either get pregnant without medicine, but then if you have a seizure, you can lose your baby.

or you can get pregnant on medicine, but then there are higher risks of, you know, having an abnormal pregnancy. So the decision is so hard. And I remember in the beginning of the year before I shared about my epilepsy journey, how sensitive I was, even talking about it. Like, I could never have this conversation with you guys or anyone before I shared my story. And by sharing my story is what made me stronger to talk about it,

to talk to others and to listen to other people. who go through the same. So by sharing my story, I got to listen to so many moms who had epilepsy their whole lives, who got pregnant on medicine and had two, three healthy babies. So that helped me make my decision. Well, I think when you tell stories like this, someone from the outside will look at you. And this will happen to any successful person. And they'll hear you saying something like fashion week is hard. But for most people, and I understand because we've, we've, we've, been to these events and it is hard and trying, but unless you've actually done those things, you're going to say, like, I would do anything to be a fashion week. So they don't, they're not going

to relate to it. So when you tell a story like this, it humanizes you in a way where people like, oh my God, she's a person. She has struggles like me. Like I can understand. And people can identify with you a little bit more and relate to you more, which ultimately makes them more vested in your story and also more engage you what you're doing where, you know, when you see, I'm not going to name anybody, but when you see successful people go and complain about like success. Yeah. Like, oh my God, it's so hard that business is booming and that I have to go to these great places. What it does is people are like, listen, you're complaining about something that they would literally cut their right arm off for.

Yeah. And so it's important to humanize yourself because what it does is it makes people understand like, oh, she's human like me and we all struggle, whether it's, you know, they may not have epilepsy or, but they have something. Yeah, there's something. Like we all have something. It was probably comforting too for you to hear from other mothers that have beautiful babies now that had epilepsy.

Yeah. No, it was life changing really. Like I was so scared. You know, when you, every woman has like almost 2% chance of having an abnormal pregnancy. That is for every one of us. And with certain epilepsy, and you don't want to add any half percent of anything, right? When you're pregnant, it's like you don't want to. And when my doctor said, I recommend you to get pregnant on medicine, I freaked out.

I was like, if something happens, if I have an abnormal pregnancy, I'm never going to forgive. myself but then also if I do it without and I lose the baby I'm also not going to forgive myself so it was really hard so listening to these stories in facts like maybe today I have my decision made and I'm so comfortable with it because I got to listen to all of these stories I think that another person that opened up like you and it was so interesting to watch like everything that happened was Chrissy Tegan yeah so much many people were so evil that she shared what she shared about having a stillborn birth. And I was talking about this the other day and I keep talking about it because I think it's

important that people that are so beautiful and thin and rich and have it all and have the house and all the check boxes, humanize like Michael just said, what's going on and show them that just because you do have it all in quotes, things still happen. And what that does for other mothers is there's a lot of people that have had stillborn births and so now they can say okay christie tegan's talking about it i can now talk about it i feel comfortable it's so important to have these conversations exactly it's exactly what you said so many people the week that i shared especially so many people came out about their epilepsy on their own social medias um that for me was like wow i can even explain and you know so many comments like that all

Oh, I can now talk about it. And I don't have to be ashamed because epilepsy was very, there's still a huge stigma there, like I said. And so many people are afraid. I've heard stories of, you know, people who shared with their boss that they have epilepsy and they got fired the next week. Because, you know, they probably thought the person wasn't so capable. So we need to stay. I mean, my goal is to use my platform and my voice to try to end stigma to bring awareness to it because there's still a big problem out there. I think about like, this is a weird analogy, you guys might not follow me here, but I think about like a neighborhood in the 50s.

And you'd go, you go there and I wasn't alive in the 50s, but you go and you see these like picture perfect houses, right? And everyone's out there putting their best face forward. But then you never know what's really going on on the inside. And it makes it hard for the community to really like understand who people are. And I think social media is just a massive amplification of that where you look in someone has a really, really pretty page and pretty brand, but you can't really tell what's going on. And I think one good thing that's happening if there is something good from social media is that people, are starting to kind of like show behind the house and show behind the pretty picture and say like, hey, we're all humans having human experiences. And I think when you do that at a mass level,

it enables the spread of information, which makes people understand people more and also get a little bit more educated on other things. I mean, especially this year, where there's so many things that we've seen that have been impactful that, you know, people just weren't talking about. And when they do, it helps people learn. And I think like a lot of the problems in this world stem from people being ignorant, right? And if you take that ignorance away and start educating people, you can start to help each other a little bit more. And so I just think about like that weird analogy where like you drove this neighborhood and everything looks perfect, but you know it's not perfect on the inside. And same thing with social media, just super amplified. Nothing's perfect. Nothing is perfect. And by the way,

perfect is fucking boring. So nothing's perfect. How has your husband been a part of your journey? When did you meet? Tell us the story behind that and then tell us how he's integrated in your business if he is. We met through friends. It's an actually funny story. We met. We met. We met. through friends. It was my birthday party. He came along with a friend of mine and that's how we met. We discovered that we were from the same small town in Brazil. That's weird. And you've discovered that here while you're both, wow. Yeah, we met in America and we, that was our first connection. Like, oh my gosh, we're from the same town and he came to the US younger than me, but he will always go back like vacation time.

and I discovered after that all of my friends knew him and I didn't so it was meant to me you know for us to meet here and we've been together for 15 years married for 10 I met him we started going out with 17 and he's my everything I mean he he's not just you know my husband and partner but he he's the person who really like lifts me up every single day who gives me courage who in the business as well like plays such a huge important part. Right in the beginning when he could have saw that, I was, you know, I had a passion for the social media and what I was doing and creating videos. I remember, like, I was shooting those on the weekend because I was working throughout

the week. And I said one day, oh, should I really be doing this? And he said to me, yes, you should. I see that you love it. Why not? Like, do it. It's something you like doing. And so he always encouraged me to do things I love.

He could always encourage me to be myself and to be strong. And he has played a huge part, especially on my epilepsy journey. So, yeah, he's my everything. And he's today, you know, my business partner. He was super involved in the launch of our beauty brand, Al-Luze. So, yeah, I love him to. I love him so much. And I can't wait to have babies with him.

Lauren, you better be talking about me like this. No, because it is challenging to work with your significant other, at least for me. I thought you were going to say Michael's also my everything. You are my everything, but you can be very annoying. How do you guys work together seamlessly? Like, there's a lot of annoying things you do. Like, I don't, I always say, like, I don't want to be told at while I'm eating my breakfast at 7 a.m.

That, like, I need to call the bank today. I want to blow my fucking head off when you do that. Well, good to know. We're in the same page. Well, you know, he, that is, that was one of the hardest things in the beginning when we started working together. It's like, how do we separate things? Personal from professional.

And a lot of times I see myself saying, wait, if it was someone else from the team, you would not speak to me that way. Like, so it's really hard to separate things and like to know the time as well. Like you mentioned in the morning, I don't want to, when I'm drinking my coffee, I don't want to hear, okay, you have to post this today, you have to talk to someone. Or at nighttime, when we're sitting on the sofa and watching our Netflix series, oh, this about work, I don't want to. So we're kind of made rules in the house, like that, you know, after a certain hour,

we don't talk about work. And it works well. I mean, sometimes we break the rules, but most of the time, we try to follow the rule. If you were going to say you never broke the rules, I was going to say, I was going to leave, I was going to leave the interview. No, there's no way. But, like, you know, we've been working together for so long. And there was definitely a year. I remember it was really hard, really hard.

But we made it work and we worked well together today. Like we tried to, you know, he has his, his, his territory. I have mine. And, you know, I'm the creative side. He's the financial side. So today's much easier than it used to be before. Like, before he was, like, photographing me as well. We're, like, on top of each other all the time.

So today we're able to make it work. Don't you think it's so... I don't want to have sex and you ask me my bank login while we're having sex. I don't know. Might turn me on. No, that doesn't turn me on. Like, please, please, please. Maybe that's what we'll do.

Like, we'll have sex. I'll talk to the bank. But don't you feel like it's, if you can figure it out. And I, you know, we talk and say like maybe not every couple should do it because it is, I mean, same with us. It's really, really difficult to figure out. But if you do, don't you feel like it is really rewarding to work with your partner? It's so rewarding. Yeah.

It's, I mean, it's the best part of it. It's like, you know, we're building, like we constantly, we always have goals together, number one. And that is one of the things that strains the relationship the most. Like having goals together, achieving things together. Like we always have something to look forward to together. And we're always kind of the same page. and the experiences we get to live together because of work. You know, when I travel, go to a cruise show

or go somewhere in Europe and have this experience. He's with me. And you probably appreciates as much as you do because you're both doing it. Exactly. So it's really rewarding at the end of the day to build all of this together. I feel like you guys are like us where a lot of couples are pushing a boulder uphill and they're different boulders. Yeah.

And with Michael and I, it seems like with you guys, you're pushing the same boulder up the same hill. Exactly. And as challenging as it is, it's also nice too sometimes. What are some of your best kept skin secrets? Skin is huge on this podcast. You have beautiful skin. What are like some products that you're obsessed with? Is there something that you do that's maybe very Brazilian-esque that Americans need to know about? Like, give us some tips. So it's funny they talk about skin now because I was like complaining about some skin. skin stuff that I have going on the side here.

No, it's looking for. But yeah, I'm so picky about skincare. Always been, especially when I started putting a lot of makeup on, like when I started working as a makeup artist, I noticed early on that, you know, taking care of my skin and my skincare regimen was so important for my makeup to look good and for my skin to look good throughout the years and to prevent wrinkles and all of that.

So one of the, I have some like Brazilian, I remember my grandmother making all these things like, hair masks, face mask, like from home. I remember face masks with like honey and I used to put so much stuff. I have some recipes I can actually give you. But with skincare, my main thing is a good wash your face, definitely double cleanse. Cleansing is so important. If you're putting, if you don't remove your makeup right and you're putting your

skincare on top of that with the residue, it's not going to be good for your skin. So really cleanse your skin. double cleanse and tone it before you put your products on, like your, your serums, your moisturizer. So double cleansing number one and then hydrating my skin, like vitamin C, oils, serums, those are very important to me, especially a serum or oil that works before your foundation as well. That's going to make your makeup look so good.

And you have one here in front of me. I do. The Ella Luz beauty oil. I actually developed that product thinking about, you know, an oil that I could use before makeup because there's so many oils out there that I love, but that don't work so well before makeup. And this one is very like velvety. Oh, my God, it sounds so good too. It has a ton of like Brazilian ingredients in it.

And it's clean. It's a clean product. EWG verified, which I'm really proud of. And it's really difficult to create, you know, a clean product. Skin care is everything to me, like the right skincare. I started going to dermatologist early on. And she will always tell me one thing, like, make sure you put on a skincare that is clean, that almost acts like medicine for your skin.

Because there's a bunch of cosmetic stuff out there that you put on, your skin is going to feel great the next day. But it's really not going deep in and preventing, you know, aging and all of that. So it's very important. I love skincare. I am a skincare freak. I'm always changing up my regimen as well. I started to notice that I was using too many different products.

Yeah. And that was fucking up my skin. And now I like really simplified it and that made a big difference. I noticed. Yeah, for sure. There was a time where like the more you use, the better it was. But it's really the opposite. The less you use, the better it's going to be.

It's really about choosing the right product. What about a makeup tip that you can share with our audience? So a makeup tip. Maybe using one of your products because they're on the table right now and they all look amazing. Is there a product? Yeah, one great makeup tip that I have is with our lip and cheek stain. I use that product on my lips and on my cheeks for like a natural flush.

So especially now during, you know, COVID, we're staying more home. There are days I just want like something very little on my face and I want to flush. Like I want my husband to look at me and be like, hmm, she looks cute, but she looks like she has nothing on. So that's perfect. I put a little bit of concealer on their eye and I put that on my lips and on my cheeks and I have like this beautiful red like flush, but very. very natural. That's a trick I love. I mean, I always need to have something on my lips. And even when

I'm wearing like nude lipstick, like today, I have that under. Because when my nude lipstick comes off, I still have like that flush on my lips, you know? Sold. Sold. What is your morning routine? We ask a lot of people this. Our audience loves morning routines. And maybe you don't have one. But if you do, what is it? I do have a morning routine. I mean, it's not super, it's simple. But it's important. I wake up and the first thing I do is wash my face with cold water, very cold, to wake me up and to depuff in a little bit. And then what I do is I apply my beauty water, which tones and re-energize the skin.

It helps with the pores and then the oil. And then after the oil, which is hydrating my skin, what I do is I take like a guasha tool and I do like a little Brazilian face lymphatic massage which is it works wonders it really deep puffings my face especially the days that I have to shoot something you know go to the studio that's like my go-to morning routine and then try to drink a lot of water in the morning that all of those things I just said really help in deep puff I'm a very puffy face girl I get I wake up really puff you like on my face. So yeah, Michael wakes up nice and tight and snatched and I'm over there using my goshawl and my eyesore. It's just because I'm super dehydrated the morning. Then I have to drink

and then I'll puff up for diet. What are your tips and tricks? You're in very good shape. Thank you. So for diet. So I have, I always say like people, there's different people. If I, me and you, we drink and eat the same thing. Our bodies are still going to look different, right? I feel I say that I'm blessed with very fast metabolism. So I lose weight, but I use, because I have a fast metabolism, I lose weight really easily. And what I'm always trying to do is maintain my weight so that I'm not too, like, the way I don't want. You know, I want my curves and I want everything there. I want my muscle mass. When I work out, I'm like building muscle. So I'm, I'm in a balance where like I want to eat healthy things, but then I need to eat a lot of protein and I need to get my carbs in.

So I never really done like a strict diet, but I know that like, you know, now I'm learning more about like, what are the good carbs that I should be eating instead of the bad carbs? I love rice, rice and beans, you know, it's a Brazilian, it's one of my favorite things to eat. But then what are the things that could be replacing? And all of the things we eat, food, it affects our whole body, it affects our sleep, affects our skin, our energy. So, and I find myself a lot, like, really, especially throughout the day, during the day, I feel like I have no energy anymore.

It's because of all of the bad carbs that probably I eat and have in my diet because I want to maintain my weight, right? So the trick for, I mean, it's hard. Like, I don't really think of like, oh, I have a trick, but I think it's important for you to know what's your, like, issue, like, what. how is your body, how's your metabolism, how's your muscle memory, and then figure out, you know, what are the things you should be doing? Like, I feel like a lot of people, they just follow whatever someone else is doing, but they don't know that it could have a totally different effect on them.

Even if, like, you follow this really strict diet that a girl is doing, you can have a totally different effect on you. So what about workout? Workouts, I love anything with weights. Like, I love doing booty workouts and lower body workouts like legs and butt are my number one and I always try to put some abs in there as well but I don't work a lot of upper body but lower body is my main thing I have actually some really cool like 30 minute workouts on my IGTV that I did with my trainer when COVID started and I couldn't go to him and I saved it there but I love working out I love biking I love playing volleyball you know being active in general you really really, you know, gives me energy. But when I'm working out, I concentrate more on weightlifting.

Can you leave our audience with a book, a podcast, or a resource that you feel like will bring them value? I will leave them with a book, The Secret. It talks about the power of attraction, which I really believe in. It's about, you know, the energy that you put to the world, that you put into the world is where you're going to get back at you. I feel like you know the energy that we spread is so important on our every day there are days that I wake up feeling down and I don't even know why and instead of like trying to figure out why I'm feeling sad I instead stop and say okay why what should I be grateful for today why should I be happy why should I smile today and then I start counting the simple things in life right like I have a roof on

top of my head I have health I have a loved hot whole loving husband, a loving family. And then I'm automatically feeling happier. So, and a lot of times, you know, things are always going to happen. You're going to be leaving your house. Your tire is going to go flat. And then you're like putting all that negative energy and heavy energy into that. And maybe that was actually saving you from something worse happening, you know,

in your day. So I believe so much in energy and how energy can impact our lives. So the secret is a really interesting book. of how you can. I'm trying to teach Michael about it. But you know what's funny, though, it is like, it is the simple. Lorna always makes fun of me because she's like, do you're grateful. And my grateful is like, wife, baby dogs.

Like that's the thing that I'm like grateful for in my life. And it's funny. We lost a, what's not funny. We lost a dog this year that was 17 years old. That was like everything to me. And I think about like even all the stuff that. And I would give, my partners probably don't want to hear this. I would give everything away, all the, all the, everything to get that dog back.

And it's funny because like you, you take little things in life for granted until you don't have them. I think people need to remember. Like it's the little things that matter the most, not all the other stuff. Exactly. Before you go, tell us about your beauty line, pimp it out. Tell us how you started it, why you started it, what the name means, all the stuff. So my beauty brand is called Ella Luz. It means she's light in my native language Portuguese.

And it is inspired by the warmth and the confidence that comes from everyone's individual light. I truly like I was saying and light for me is energy light is love light is you know that inner light I always say it's we're all born with it it's in there it's ours it's unique some people might try to show you that their light shines brighter but it's up to us to let that light shine through and once you let it shine through you're able to be whoever you want to be in this life and I'm an example of it um Ella Luz is a lifestyle brand designed developed with essential products from skincare to makeup to hair, body. There's so much more coming and we're a clean, sustainable brand, which I'm really proud of.

So yeah, I'm really passionate about this brand. I don't want to spend too much talking about it. What's the main product if you were to start with one product? I feel like I am going to start with the lip and cheek. But what would you start with? It's hard. It's almost like choosing a baby. You know, your favorite child.

I'm really passionate about the oil. The beauty oil is just, for me, it's been life-changing, like, especially before makeup, before I go to bed on top of my moisturizer. Because I'm such, you know, people think I would say like a makeup product, but skincare, that oil for me is just really amazing because it's clean as well. And then second, the lip and cheek. But also, I mean, I have to pick everything. The dye texture spray, my hair is so fine and I need texture every day.

But number one is the oil for me. Okay. I love it. Pimp yourself out now. Where is your Instagram? Where can everyone find you? Pimp myself out. Yes.

Pimp yourself out. My Instagram is at Camillaquilio. And you can find me also on YouTube for beauty tutorials. There's a lot of content on my blog at www.com. at www.com. We're going to link everything out, too. I'm not pimping myself, so right. No, you are.

And your product on Instagram, where can they follow? My product, my brand is Al-L-L-L-L-L-Uz on Instagram and Camilla Quetta Collection for my fashion label. And it's E-L-A-L-U-Z. Cute. Thank you so much for coming on and opening up.

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