The Bossticks - Caroline Stanbury - How To Use Self Confidence To Build A Career, Reality TV, & How To Capitalize On Authenticity

Episode Date: July 16, 2019

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A very smart. cooking. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you alone for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. And it just grew. I started from home with one person and then it just grew and grew and grew. And then suddenly everybody took notice and, you know, I had some of the biggest investors in the world. As I said, they managed $22 billion of money. And I literally walked in with a piece of paper and no weight even, like, didn't have had to put a business plan together. And I managed to raise the money. just under $14 million.

How cute is that theme song, Michael? I love it. I could just, like, dance to it every minute. I thought you were going to open up with an English accent. No, I was about to take my top off and shake my tits. Well, I'll take that in substitution instead. That sounds much better to me. Let's hear your English accent.

I'm not even going to try to disgrace myself. I don't know how to do it. Hello, Governor. Oh, oh. That's like more of like a cockney accent. I don't know how to do it. I got to hear something. I've got to bring Caroline back.

Guys, welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her show. That clip was from our guest to the show. Cracker. Caroline Stamberry, the wildly popular show, Ladies of London. She's a socialite, an entrepreneur, a boss, a reality, television personality. She kind of does it all. And she's a mom. She does it all. And she is not apologetic about it. You know what I love about Caroline? She does things on her own terms. She doesn't give a fuck what anyone says. And she does it like in this hot, sexy, sassy way that just attracts you to her personality. With an amazing sense of humor. Huge sense of humor. She doesn't take herself too seriously.

she's in on the joke. I love that. I think Taylor was getting a little bit too turned on on this episode. He was flirting with Caroline. And, you know, that's what I mean about a sense of humor because Taylor, I don't think she was serious. Taylor literally had a chubby the entire episode. Wouldn't you say, Taylor? It wasn't a halfie.

It was a full chub. Oh, God. But you can't blame me. It's not my fault. I am only human. And she actually reminds me of the, like an English version of you, Lauren. Wait, so you had a half hard on for Caroline, but she reminds you of me. Okay.

Good to say in front of him. This is becoming very creepy and incestrous in here. Taylor, is there any, like, hole-in-the-wall massage parlor that you go to that you get a happy ending at? I've never received a happy ending. And the only time I've ever actually received a massage was when I went with you and Michael, and we went to that one place, but there were definitely no hand jobs or happy endings taking place in that. Listen, he's given a lot of sad endings to a lot of poor women on this planet. So, you know, that's kind of the same thing, but in reverse.

Wouldn't you say, Taylor? Yeah, but also the one person always leaves happy, me. Ooh. Taylor, I'm going to find you a good, nice massage parlor up here in L.A. I always, you know what's funny? We should have someone on that's actually gone through the experience of having a happy ending because I want to know what the do's and don'ts are. How do they signal that something's about to happen?

Do they just grab you? I mean, it happens. You want to know the dos and don't so you can go use them? I heard somebody. Let me do a blog post on it. There was a comedian talking about this. God damn it. I can't remember which one.

I think I heard him on Joe Rogan's podcast, and now I'm going to kick myself in the head for not remembering who it was. But anyways, I'm not taking credit for this. But it was the first time I heard about this, that it made a lot of sense to me about happy endings. Why would you want it at the end? Wouldn't that give you anxiety the whole time, build up, and you get at the end? I think the best way to do it is to have a happy beginning,

get it out of the way and then get the massage after when you're all tired and relaxed. Doesn't make more sense? Good thing. You don't have to ever think about that, Michael. Well, because I'm thinking that you're going to sit there the whole time, You're like, you know, how do I do this? What do I don't? Let's just get it out of the way in the beginning.

So you just want to like let your lizard like spray everywhere and then just keep getting massaged with it? I think if I was managing those business, I would say, listen, guys, guys, girls, ladies, boys, gentlemen, whatever it is. Whoever's doing it. Maybe not boys and girls. That's a little weird. But I would say, let's get this out of the way in the beginning, get the customer relaxed and happy, get the hard work done and then finish off with just a relaxing time. So nobody's got to be stressed. You've thought about this too hard, Michael Boste.

When I heard that the comedian talking about it, I was like, that sounds. That sounds much smarter. Denise Richards took her husband, Aaron, on housewives. She talks about this to a massage parlor because he never had a happy ending and gave he got he got one. That's a goal of the metal wife, I must say. All right, Taylor. I'll be on the lookout for it. But I disagree with you, Michael.

I really think it should happen at the end. The reason being is because the tension that gets built up because you don't know when it's coming. You don't know when she's going to grab it or he. I don't know. Again, whatever you're going through your mind. Wait, hold on. For you it would just be like you'd have to get like a 31 minute massage because you could get 30 minutes of the massage and just one minute of like your wind down. You know what I mean?

I wonder if they booked by the minute. Yeah, you could just go go in for a minute massage. I think it's a flat fee based on whatever the job is, right? I would love to like set up an Uber of massages and just have like, it could be called the Minuteman massage and they could just go around and just give massages to people like you, Taylor. Taylor, you could probably negotiate and be like, listen, this is only going to take about a minute so like is there a discount, you know? I wonder if anyone's ever actually gone in and said, listen, I don't want the massage. I just want the happy ending. I'm sure.

I'm sure that's happened. I'm sure that was you. Anyways, guys, this is getting weird. Let's jump into the episode with Caroline. Lorne, take it away. With that, let's welcome Caroline Stanberry to the skinny confidential him and her show. Michael, you know what's for dinner tonight? What's for dinner tonight, Lauren?

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gummies and insane. You know, Lauren, that all sounds really good. But you know what would finish it right off? What would finish it off? A glass of clean wine, which Thrive Market also has in store. And they also delivered it straight to my door. Lauren, I'm one step ahead of you or in line with you. It better be the organic Italian red, Michael. Guys, what are you doing? What? Get out of your stupor.

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And make sure you get those peanut butter pretzels. Those are game changers. Enjoy, guys. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. We got you some coconut oil lube. Right. I'm really excited to open this. But as I said to you earlier,

I've got to find someone here to have sex with to use this. But I hope my husband's not going to hear this podcast. Taylor is ready. He's hot on the mic and he's behind a wall. I would have checked him out better if I knew we were having sex later. I put that wall there on purpose. So that we wouldn't have a moment. And I sit my back to it.

No, it's more so that I don't have to have a moment with him. Taylor, are you ready to have sex? I mean, we're in a glass box, Taylor. Okay, so you're opening. I've got three kids. I mean, no one wants to see this naked. We need to turn the lights down. I don't know how you have three kids.

You guys. Caroline, when you're in America, if you were looking for that, I would feel like we would need to set you up with maybe somebody a little bit more up to the task. She has taken. She's been with her husband. been for 10 years. 17. 17.

Excuse me. No. That's inspo. You look so young. So that's the coconut oil lobe. Okay. You can eat it like it. Suck it.

Fuck it. Those are little stickers. Where do they go on my nipples? They can. Taylor's going to pop a boner. I thought it was like a whole thing. Taylor's in the back sweating. Those are freshies.

Those are for post sex, post wipes. Or pre. Whatever you want to use them for. Or pray. To wipe your vagina. Yes. Yes. Or Taylor can wipe whatever he's wiping up right now.

Oh, nice. Nice, Taylor. He's cameras. I hope my kids don't hear this. How many listeners do you guys have? Four, I hope. Yeah, just like, yeah, maybe like two or three. Two or three?

Okay, great. For all of you out of there. Okay, so let's get a little background on you. Where'd you grow up? What was your childhood like? Take us way back. Is this you? I wouldn't say I cook.

I throw stuff together in five minutes. But this is you, right? That's me. It's from about six years ago, but I threw that in there. Oh, so this is like a box of everything. It's a box of everything. She cooks. It's not always edible, but.

But we get through it. I'm doing my best. I can't do everything. He wants me to be a business person. He wants me to have a great personality. I suck his penis. Yes. We are married.

It's like I can't do everything. I can do one thing really well, okay? Listen, if that's the thing you do really well, I'm good. I'm good. So tell us about your childhood. Take us way back. Oh my God. I don't know if I remember that far back.

Way back. Okay. So I grew up in Dorset in the middle of nowhere and I went to boarding school, funny enough, from the age of 6 to 18. So I'm pretty in just usually. It was, it's very English. It's very English to have children and then give them away, basically, and then say, see you when you're a lot older, which is, you know. That sounds fun. Well, yeah, I was kind of traumatized by it. I wouldn't do it to my kids. But it's a very British, an old school way of living. Children should be seen and not heard. So I grew up in, like, a big house in the middle of nowhere, like with a two mile drive. So even if I wanted to go anywhere, I couldn't. I mean, I did run away from home once, but by the time I got to the top of the drive, it was so exhausted. I went home. I didn't get anywhere I was like come and come pick me up

I love my parents they're amazing but you know what does that do though as a as a child when you get you know when you get sent away literally sent away is it um you learn you I find it very hard to I think I was known for not giving hugs like of people I'm not good with emotion

I don't really know how to deal with that so I do a lot of tapping and I'm not a big hugger and I'm not a big and which is difficult for me because here, and the Americans want to hug me everywhere I go. I'm like, you know, personal space, a little bit of personal space. Like, let's keep this, you know, clean. But if, you know, Taylor and I are going at it later, I don't, you can invade my personal space.

I was going to say, it starts as a hug and then I'm inside you. Right. And it only lasts for a minute. Because it's been on the podcast, so it's going to be the best minute of your life. I wonder if I got sent away as a kid. That sounds very, I relate to all that personal space, not hugging, not showing emotion thing. So how did you two do just for a job? She gets mad.

and I have to adjust. Right. No, yeah, I'm affectionate only with my husband. I agree with you that I need a little bubble around me. I'm not super huggy. I'm good with my kids. Yeah, you have three kids. Yeah.

Okay. So you go to boarding school. College? No, I could not wait to get out. Okay. I left school and when everyone else was doing really well, my book said people person. It's like I was the people person.

But I became the most successful by far. of my class. So, I mean, I don't believe in that. I believe in, you know, book smart, street smart. And I just, it was single swim. And I just always liked shiny things, you know, and that's what drove me. I just always wanted things, but I wanted to be able to buy them myself. I mean, I remember my first car. I bought myself a Mercedes SLK. And I got a check back like six months later for a thousand pounds because I'd wired too much money. I mean, who does that? Because I just had no concept of like, Any of this shit. So at what point do you meet your husband?

I met my husband. I was 25. I'd just broken up with some footballer. I'm not going to talk about because he doesn't deserve it. Let's not give him that air time. No, definitely not. So I was crying into my lunch in a track suit with no makeup on. And he walked in and sat at the next table.

And I think my girlfriend dropped her jacket, whatever. And I saw him. He clocked me. I clocked him. And the next night I went to the same restaurant. He was at the other table. So, and so, and his friend had tried asking me out the week before. And I noticed they were sitting together. So anyway, they invited me out for a drink. I ended up giving both of them my phone numbers, said, don't, don't argue boys. And it's a pretty boss move. Yeah, it is boss. Yeah. It's like, no need to fight. I don't even know where these balls came from.

And then when he called me to take me out, I couldn't remember which one it was because they, I mean, I'm English. I used to go out with guys called John, James, Alex. They were called Gem and Roger. I mean, like, it's ridiculous. So I was like, okay, well, what's the worst that happens? I haven't, I meet a nice friend and I'll just go. So I went out on a date with him. I lied the whole way through.

What do you mean? Get specific for anyone out there who's single that's listening that needs some tips. Oh, definitely lie. I lied about everything. I said I cooked that I didn't like designer clothes. He's like, in my entire life, I haven't seen you without a label. I said that I love The Simpsons. That's what really did it.

And then the first time we actually had sex, I got out of bed and ordered a kebab. He was like, this is the woman I'm going to marry. He's like, any woman that wants a kebab after she's had sex is my kind of woman. What did he do when you found out you couldn't cook? That was upsetting. Yeah, he found that hard. Just order a kebab? Yeah.

And no, he cooks, he cooks, he cooks. I mean, I did cook from once. I made spaghetti bolognese, but, you know, he... That's how I am. See? We have a cook now. Yeah, I'd like a cook. I don't need you to cook. That would be perfect. It's last on the priorities if you could do other things. So at what point do you decide after you're married that you want to be on reality TV? I mean, your reality TV gold. Thank you. But I did not decide I wanted to be on reality TV. It was so far from anything I wanted to do. And I was, I, first of all, at school, I wasn't really pretty. I used to, oh my God, I went to school with headgear. I mean, I had fucking headgear. Who talks to that girl? So, like, I've never been picked for anything.

I wasn't good at sport. I never got picked for anything. So when I was put up for it, I was one of the first people they found. And because I was a female CEO, I had, like, 86 employees at the time. You know, so I was, I was, you know, a boss bitch. They wanted me. And I was like, I can't. I can't do this on top of what I'm running.

What's the pressure of an 86 person? team like? I kept a lot of Xanax behind my desk, a lot of vodka, a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure. And actually, I don't think, I'm not sure I was a really nice person in that time, to be honest. So I think you become very masculine. Like if my husband, if I had a stressful day, I would literally get home, like, the kids would be like, oh, mommy. And I would like, fuck off. Yeah. I love your honesty. Yeah, I did. But I did. I didn't, you know, I'd go and sit in the bathroom, literally on the floor, like, because the pressure is huge. There's a ton of payroll, yeah. And also you're managing not just your life, but everybody, they're all depending on you.

Everyone's depending on me. And like they come in, you know, that's what I always laugh about because my staff would come in and go, you know, I'm not feeling so well. Or, you know, my life is I've had a really broken up with my boyfriend. I'm like, look, bitch, I have to do this. You know, I'm like, I can't, I can't take this on right now. So like, I used to go to my sector. If you're in here to cry, you need to leave. Come back when you're done. Because I, you know, I don't, I don't have that luxury. Why do you feel like you can come into my space and do it on me? When I just, you know, I really don't have that time.

So when you were, when you're managing this company and the reality television producer approaches you was the business aspect alluring? Yeah. Well, so what happened was like, I don't know how I can do this on top? So I was like, how the fuck do you grow a company? I didn't go to school. So I was like, how do I grow up from this to this? And then I was like, you know, I could buy a billboard in America, because I wanted America.

But how does that really work? And then I was like, okay, reality TV might actually work. And maybe this is a good thing to have this in my office. So I was like, I literally pushed the papers under everybody's desk, like they had to sign or leave, you know. But actually, I mean, when I did the, what do you call it, the test for it, I really wasn't expecting to get it at all. But I was the first person they chose. And then I was like, no, no, no, I just don't have time to do this. I can't take this on.

I was doing IVF as well. I mean, oh my gosh. Well, that's not an easy process either. IVF and 86. Not that I could understand it, but I've had friends that go through it. No, and you know what I used to do? Because there's huge cues for the doctor. So I used to send my secretary to sit in the room until I was three down to get there so that I could take my meetings, then go there, take the things and go back.

Because I didn't have time to do it. Innsfeld. No, that's infel. That's infel. So do you think, looking back now, do you think that going on TV was a good thing, bad thing, happy with it, not happy with it? Look, as I said, anyone that starts a startup or whatever else, I think we all have a beautiful idea of this beautiful straight line that you're going to follow to your path and it's going to lead you to success.

And anyone that's successful will explain to you that it's just not what fucking happens. It's the world just sends you curveballs every two minutes. And you just have to roll with the punches. And oh, my God, and I'm still dealing with it now. So it was what did you just ask me? Well, basically are you happy with the experience of television? So it was, it didn't do what I thought it was going to do because it actually takes time so that, you know, when you're on a reality TV show, you know, people need to fall in love with you and that doesn't happen straight away. So it's one year, two years seasons before people really care about you and your family.

So it wasn't as an immediate switch that I thought it would be for the company. I was like, you know, it took time. And actually it takes you away. So much time of it. So when actually GIF library didn't work out in the end, there's a long story, not because we actually did anything wrong. And I was on TV. Reality TV was then the bit that I ended up giving me the next phase of my life.

So although I thought I was going to be doing this, reality TV, because I was the breakout star of it. I was just going to say you were the standout star, like by far. By far. I've seen the show. when Lauren has it on. And I actually am going to disagree with you. I fell in love with you from the second I saw you. I mean, like one of my favorite shows. I wish it was still on. I'm not going to lie. People might get mad at me for saying this, but like I remember. I don't, I'm not a

big reality TV show, but if it's on, I'll watch it. But I, I, you're probably the only one that I would remember. Yeah, he's like one of those guys that's like peripheraling to the TV. Listen, it's entertaining stuff. I'm not saying I don't watch it. I'm not actually going in and like tuning in. I'm not the end user. But if it's on, of course, I'm going to watch it. So what does it feel like when you end up being the breakout star of the show. I was just being me. I didn't really, because, you know, the standout lines and the things that people remember me for, I don't hear myself say it. It's not like I'm like, oh, you know, this, I'm going to do this today. I've, I watch it back like you do. And I'm going, shit that I say that. And the thing is, I think also being so stressed with

business and everything else, like I'm not that friend that sugar coats things. I give very one word, like I said to my secretary, she comes in, as I said, or I, I, I used to love jelly, well, you know, jelly beans. And, like, I would just walk in and go, why, why the fuck are my jelly beans not color coordinated? And everyone's like, oh, my God, because I only eat certain colors. And they're like, and that was my thing. That was my lunch and breakfast. But people are like, is she for real?

What color? Green and yellow. Okay. And so I had to have that my secretary would handpick them every day. And she looked at me, she goes, you ate them. And I'm like, but why, you know, and this is everyone's going, is she really for real? But I really was for real. That's like that was my food.

That's how I function. You seem very logical. You think with your logic, not emotion. No. How long does a jelly bean picking gig last? I know. You can't even pay. You really couldn't pay for someone for that.

And my makeup artist, it gets worse. He used to come and scrub me naked in the bath. And because I don't even like to do that. He'll walk in, put gloves on and start doing it. Oh, he washes my hair. So the other day we were in New York. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. He has to come in and he has to come in,

and he has to scrub you down because you just don't want to do it. No, of course not. You just want to lay that, you want to relax. Totally relax. I actually kind of agree with that. I got to a Korean bath. How do you find somebody that does that job? Well, listen to me.

So then he goes to me, he comes in, he puts the gloves on. And he's like, I'm about to wash my hair. He goes, I'll wash your hair. And I said, I'm 43. I can wash my hair. You can't wash your hair. I'm like, you're right. Taylor, after you have a minute of sex, can you wash her hair?

I was going to say, I'll scrub you down. Oh, okay. It's getting better and better taste. Oh, God. So as you're on the show, were you getting along with the cast of characters that are the ensemble? No. Do you know these people before? I did.

Closely or just? You know, some of them really closely. Preferly. The show, when you become the breakout star, not through any fold of your own, then people begin, year after year, beginning they're happy because you're getting a hit show. So they don't mind. They're like, okay, it's fine. You know, and you're getting the attention, all the radio shows, whatever it is,

which is the bit they all enjoy. But then after year two and going into year three, then they're like, no, fuck that shit, I want to go. And so then it just changes everything. It changes a relationship. And you live in a state of total anxiety and panic because it's just like you just have to fend off people coming at you all day long and it's exhausting.

And you're like also it's so mind-numbing. The stuff that I'm fighting about, I would never fight about. We had a baby shower fight. Do you feel like they do that to kind of like, okay shit she's getting so much attention and I need to step it up so I'm going to bring in some drama and so I'm going to just bring something at her and then you have to defend yourself yeah but I mean but you never know what it's like it gets dirty it gets mean I you know like I've been married a long time I really don't want to embarrass my husband has an important job I don't want to embarrass my

he's nobody even thinks I really have a husband because he's not on my Instagram and I'm like he's a businessman he doesn't want to be in it it's not like locked him in the dungeon I don't know if any of you, if you follow me, but like yesterday, I'm having a, it was our wedding anniversary. And my husband knows me so well. Like I'm a party animal. I loved every aspect of my life. So he sends me a note, he sends me a big bottle of champagne. And then on Instagram he goes, darling, I was going to send you flowers, but then I thought you could drink this and party in your bedroom. I was like, so I just posted it. I was like, look, I have a husband. He knows I'm partying here. And my bedroom is filled of peeps. And I, why don't you send me champagne to party?

I just took you. That sounds like a fun husband. I just wrote back, where's the other four bottles? What the fuck? Yeah, I'm having a party tonight. How do you drink champagne every night and stay so fit? Because you look amazing in person. Okay, we're really going to discuss this again, actually.

I stay really thin because I manage to find the fucking hardest trainer on the planet. So frankly, I do whatever he says, whenever he says it. And even if I'm exhausted, I'm too embarrassed to let him know that I can't do it. So I just do it. Give me an example. You mean fitness-wise or food? Or both? Both.

But he makes me like he'll go drop and give me another 20. And I'm like, okay. You know, like inside I'm dying. What do you do when you're traveling? Oh, he's not with me, unfortunately. But when you're home. I go to Shiva's brothers. When you're home in Dubai, you're working out all the time.

Every single day. Every single day. I love that. That's commitment. Well, I'm committed to him. When you were on the show. Were you doing the same thing? No. So what do you do?

On the show, you look amazing too. No, I didn't. I looked double the size. I looked at double the size. I look at myself on that show. I can't look at myself on that show. And also I just, I've watched it once. How was it with your, so your brother was married to one of the cast members and then they ended up getting a divorce on the show.

Yeah. What was that dynamic like? On the show, it wasn't great because she threw me under the bus with a few things. But now, like they just spent Christmas with me. and it's great now. But I think she got very led by the producers. Have you ever watched that one, the Unreal or something? The Real?

No, everyone says to watch that. Unbelievable. Okay, I'm going to watch that. That's the truth about what they do to us. What is this? It's like a documentary on how they, how they produce. Actually, it's a show, but it is how they produce reality shows. Oh, they show like the producers producing.

Yeah, producing it. And they're all characters and they've got this board on the wall of like each of us has a, you know, a character and how they maneuver us. us without us understanding we're being removed. We had a woman on this show who did a reality show, one of the first reality shows, Alexis, and she said the producers would do fucked up things, like hide her dog, and then say the dog is lost, and they'd be, like, running around the street, freaking out. Or she had a drug problem, and they would, like, she had drugs.

But they would go and, like, take the dog's pills and put it in her medicine cabinet and then go to the mother and be like, hey, you should go look in the medicine. They just do fucked up things like that. They didn't do that. They didn't do that, to be fair. I mean, and I, I'm still friends with the producers, but they do things like, if I have an argument with you, you're not allowed to solve it then and there. So, like, they turn off, you have a nanny so that at night you can't, I can't call you and say, look, let's just work this off camera. So that doesn't happen.

And they, you know, they plant things in your ear. They're like, you know, they went out for lunch and then they said this about you. And you're like, really, they did. And then, you know, you get anxiety and you get this whole thing. And that's why, you know, I'd find it when I quit, I was like, my husband said, look, you know, doesn't make you really happy making it. He's like, you don't, you never watch it. I mean, as I said, I've watched it once.

Like, you don't want to watch it. You don't want to really make it. But then you, you know, so he's like, why are you doing it? You don't really need it. So did you miss it when it went away? I missed, you know, it's weird because I was so used to, well, I moved to Dubai and that really helped because I really had to come to terms with if the show had continued without me, how would I feel watching it being filmed?

But no offense. It's like having a hamburger with no meat in it, though. The show needed you. And I guess it couldn't have been Ladies of London if you were in Dubai. Yeah. And also, you know, look, I've carved out the weirdest career for myself in Dubai. I didn't know one person when I got to Dubai, not one. And somehow I am now on a 33-foot billboard as you leave the airport.

And I'm blonde in the Middle Eastern country. It's hilarious. I mean, how that happened, I have no idea. It actually went up three days ago. It's there for a good year. So welcome to Dubai, everyone. And it's really weird. And, you know, and I've got this podcast now with Chris.

And, you know, we have so much fun doing it. And he's teaching me so much. I mean, I do have to learn to speak on my own podcast because he's so good at it. But he's, it's been such a lot. If there's one thing, Lauren, you okay over there? There's one thing that I know that it's going to stop you from moving forward in life. It's not acquiring new skills, picking up new skills, acquiring new talents.

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behind the move to Dubai? Like, why did you decide to leave London? Oh, my husband's job is in Kazakhstan. Okay. For him, it's, you know, he had to leave every month for two weeks. And that's quite hard for the most, you know, all of our marriage and more than the marriage, the kids, you know, like he was missing so much. And I think now it's four hours. So like, but you know, people are so bitchy. When I left, everyone was like, oh, you know, because of gift library didn't work out. They're like, oh, she's legal problems. She's gone to the Middle East. I'm like, are you, it just comes with the people are just going to, they bring you up to tear you down. Can you even hear that sentence? If you have legal problems, you think you run to the Middle East. I mean, it's like so ridiculous.

You leave the Middle East. You don't go to the Middle East. I mean, it's, it's so funny to me. but I mean, people love to, if they see somebody having fun and living, they just want to make, they want to, you know, they want to pouring it down. You do always have fun. I notice you have a very light child like energy to you where how do you maintain that? Because I've watched, I've seen your Instagram stories. You're always having fun. You're laughing. You're always having a good time.

How do you maintain that? Well, my friends are all a lot younger than me, a lot. So I choose them because I find women my age. It's like they've given up. It's like I feel like I look good, better than I did in my 20s. Whether I do to anyone else, I feel it. I'm having the time of my life. I have a disposable income that I can have fun with.

And I just think laughter is the best medicine. I mean, that's what keeps me young. And having all these young friends, like I went to some underground club the other night, two nights ago, the laundry, the dirty. Oh, so I went up and I was like, is this the laundry? And she goes, no, this is dirty laundry. injury or next to and we're going to no vacancy. I'm like having, I am going like deep with these like young boys who are like have a band and I'm like, I'm with a band and I'm having so much fun but they love

me, you know, they have the best time with me and it's really just really good friendship. I go running with my friends and we're here at Shiva's my best friends. I'm always with her. Alexandra von Furstenberg. People that I've known Alexandra since I was 15. You know, my core groups here. And then I have like amazing people that I met here. And they just make me, I'm always happy. I just am. It's just I'm a glasses half full person. You're very good at networking.

Very good. Yeah. Do you have any tips on that? Any tangible people? You thought about it for a second and you're like, yeah. No, she's, I mean. I know everyone. Yeah.

And you seem like you're a connector too. Yeah. I don't really know. Like, I mean, Nicole Scherzing is one of my best friends and she was the same because she doesn't like anyone, like anyone. Like anyone. I introduce her to everyone. She's like, who?

and I'm like Nicole you met them like four times with me and she's like babe you know anyway how no one understands that friendship either and then I was here like I mean Travis Barker is what is watching all my stories right now and because we used to party together and back in the day and you know he's text I mean the how random like the people are that I spend time with like from going from Alex and I can be with Nicole and whenever we go out with Nicole she's like babe I really need you to be cool tonight and I'm like I think I'm pretty fucking cool. She's like, no, you're not. What do you do?

What do you're doing? That's not cool. I don't know being me, I think. She took me out to see Maluma in French Montana. I had never heard of Maluma. Neither of I. I'm not cool either. I don't know who Maloam is.

Holy shit. Google him right now. Taylor, pull it up on the Google. You're going to die. He is so freaking hot. And there's only like four of us in the room. She's like, you don't know who Maluma is. He has like got 26 million followers or something.

I think I'm, he's huge. I need to get some young friends. Maybe I'm getting too old. I know. I think you need to come hang with me. Hang with the kids. Okay. I don't think you spell it like that.

Yeah. Whoa, Taylor. I don't know how to spell. I don't know if that's going to get you laid, spelling stuff like that. Okay, howdy's spot, Lauren. M-A-L. I thought it sounded like some sort of growth. Or Molyuma.

Malum. No, it's M-U. Oh, M-U. There's probably a bunch of young people listening to me like, you fucking idiot. I like, we've been listening to these fucking. Nerds. Wait, we've got to find Maluma. Like, he's... Oh, there he is. Oh, yeah, there is. Look at him.

Okay, he's cool. And he's frigging hot. And, like, French Montana's team still text me like, hey, you, let's hang out. And I'm like, I'm like, Nicole, everyone else thinks I'm cool. How are you balancing all this? You're balancing coming to L.A. You've got a full-time business, it sounds like. You're working out every day. What's the trick? The secret? I'm physically exhausted. And tequila.

Really? I can get on board with that. I can drink a little more tequila. Yeah. What's a day in the life? you when you're in Dubai. Oh, God, nothing. So. What's it like over there? Well, I mean, I use that as like, for me, it's like rehab and it's, I'm so healthy. So every morning I get up, I go to the gym. We need specifics. What time? Are you early or late? Oh, no, I'm late. My kids have

already gone to school. Okay. Um, so we're very spoiled in Dubai. I have to say, like, very small. I have a driver. I have a cook and I have two housekeepers and I have a secretary. So I really don't have to do much. Dubai doesn't sound that bad. No. Sounds pretty good. For the price of one and a half in England. Yeah. England, I mean, it is so fucking expensive. We were just over there for Christmas.

It is. No, it's ridiculous. So, you know, I lie in bed in the morning. You really want to hear this? I want to hear every specific. And then I text my chef to make me a full on celery juice. Then I wait 10 minutes. What's the wait for?

Well, because it has to digest. Oh, oh, you drink it. I thought you're saying you make it and then you say wait 10 minutes. Off drive, drunk. Yeah, yeah, okay. And I re-text him and say, now bring me my cold collagen coffee with the bulletproof of my brain. So which he makes specially for me. It's like a cold coffee, like frappuccino-y thing.

But we put a lot of shit in there, collagen every single day. Then, so he brings me that. What brand? Of the collagen? Yeah. Oh, my God. I can't remember. Okay, okay.

Anyway. So then I slowly get up. And I go and see my very hot trainer for a good hour. Oh, my God. I have to show him to you because I don't think it. You are a. What's his name? Taylor can pull him up or you can't pull. I'll put them up. Don't worry.

And then I, my kids have already gone to school, which is the way I prefer it. Sounds like how I'm going to be with kids, babe. Just so you can get a taste of it. I'd like to text my chef for a celery juice and a collagen coffee. Then I go, okay, so I open like hospitals. Are you ready? Oh, wow. That's a good looking man.

I don't know any trainers that look like that here. Wow. Oh, yeah. Straight? Yeah. Whenever I've had trainers like that that look like that, it's not, it hasn't made me feel the same way. I don't think I get the same reaction as you do. Well, my favorite part of the day is when I get stretched.

I'm lying there with one leg up and I'm just looking to size. Hold on, hold on. What is this guy's certifications? What's his qualifications? Does it matter? No, I guess it doesn't for a guy like that. A guy like that doesn't need to have any certifications or qualifications. Absolutely none.

He's probably like on the street somewhere. It's fine. He's a baggage handler at LAX when he's not training you. That's neither here or there. It really isn't. I said to him my favorite part of the day of every day is when he stretches me. I'm actually lying on the floor. I can't, you know, it's like going to the gynecologist.

That's how I feel. Like, I can't look at him. I have to look every other way. I don't know what it's like going to the gynecologist, but I can't. Well, it's bad. You don't want to look at the doctor either. I can get, okay. So you're like there and I don't want him to know that I'm like looking.

So I'm like, I just look around the gym and as if I'm not like really bothered that he's literally on top of me right now. Taylor, you have. One slip, I could be pregnant again, except I'm too old. Taylor, you have zero shot now. Let's after the trainer. Oh, sorry, just, you know, I was left. We got distracted.

We all got distracted. Yeah, shit. Yeah, shit. Good for him. Yeah. So after that, I need a minute to cool down. Cold shower. I need to go to the bathroom and use the freshies.

Those are for after your trainer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. Yeah, bring some of those to the gym. Oh, by the way, honey, I really love you. He's a, your husband's a regular listener of the show. He's going to be pissed. I'm so pissed.

Anyway, so then I go home, see my husband, and we lie by the pool. I work by the pool, my secretary's there. She and I just, we, well, we talk about my trainer, actually, lie by the pool and we do a bit of work. And then I go all over, there's 186 hospitals. So I go, I've just been in Oman. I open six of them. I kiss a few hands. It's really funny.

I mean, they put the red carpet out. I'm really, I'm really famous in Oman, people. No, it's an actual thing. We believe you. I just think it's. What does that look like? Or they're like paparazzi's everywhere?

Paparazzi's film crew Red carpets is hilarious I was like holy shit but the best part is I get to stay in the Amman

I'm like I get to shake a few hands I just wear very big glasses if you wear big glass it makes you really look like you know what you're doing and important so I just don't take those off

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And I think, you know, as much as I do, I don't look plastic. I haven't had any surgery. and, you know, and I'm not a 20-year-old model. So people really believe it because, you know, as I said, I turned 43 this month. And, you know, for 43, I look pretty good. And so people want to know what I do. And so that's how I started finding the doctors. And then, you know, yeah, I started filling the hospital.

It was just an idea. So you connect the doctors here to the hospital that are going to go and work on individuals in the Middle East or with individuals in the Middle East. We then fill their diaries so that they don't lose anything by coming because obviously they're very successful here. So we'll do every six weeks. We then do two, three days. So at the moment we do fillers and things like this, but right now I'm here to find the surgeons. So what we'll do is they'll come for like four days a week and we guarantee them as said an amount of money, obviously, because we will have taken, we will have filled their diary, fly them out and fly them in, put them up. And then we, you know, we go back to back to back and they come back.

How does that work with like the facilities? They have state of the art facilities that doctor come and feel completely comfortable in there? They have royal suites. I imagine. It's a huge. We got to go there. We got to go there. NMC is huge and it's a giant hospital group and they have the best technology and everything.

And also the great thing about this and what I really enjoyed about it, which I think is very interesting for famous people or people that don't in London or coming here. So many paparazzi. You know the paparazzi are illegal in the Middle East. Yeah. So you don't have that. issue of like if I was going to go and have a body or overhaul, I would go there. You can just go lie on the beach. Nobody's going to take a picture. Nobody knows you. How great is that? So if you're having whatever you're having done and it's, it's, that's why Lindsay Lohan went over

there. I think, well, probably multiple reasons, but she was saying, I mean, she was saying, that's a big thing over there is that nobody was bothering over there. She loves it. I, I know Lindsay well. And that's a huge thing for her. She can't go out in L.A. People won't leave her alone. No, of course. And, but that just doesn't happen there. I mean, they love famous people. And if you're doing an event and things like that because they don't really have many famous. I mean, I think for me, all the opportunities opened up was because there was no one like me out there. I mean, there's me and Lindsay from, you know, this kind of a background. That's what I was going to ask you.

What is it like there? Describe it, if you were to describe every little detail. Like, what is the vibe there? Well, I think she's looking for like what's the social life there. No, yeah. It's like living in L.A. It's very, very easygoing and relax. I think we have a different picture in our head.

You do because I think what Americans, and I don't mean to sort of belittle you all, but you kind of get mixed up between Dubai and Saudi. And they're completely different places and wait. I can dress exactly like this or hot pants, jean pants, you know, drink. Like there's Nikki Beach. There's all the clubs, you know, nightclubs, everyone parties. I mean, the only thing they don't have is any drugs. There's like zero tolerance, which isn't a bad thing, to be honest. you know, and there's zero tolerance on, you know, stealing things and things like that.

But so I sleep with my windows open and my diamonds next to my bed. Literally, you steal something. You have your hands chopped off. It's that simple. Yeah, they're not fucking around with that stuff. They're not fucking around. And you know what? Doesn't bother me.

I'm not stealing anything. I'm all for if somebody's stealing from me to have their hand chopped off. I want to put that out there on this in America. If someone steals from me in America, I hope their hand gets chopped off. I'm all for like this kind of punishment because people genuinely don't do it. If you really thought about it and like if I get caught, this is going to happen to me and you get thrown out of the country, it doesn't happen. This will be the piece that gets picked up. They'll say, you hear those people in there talking about hand chops?

Of all the gems here, they're going to say that's the piece. And then they're going to attack me. Do you follow a specific diet? Do I follow a specific diet? I try and do high protein. But to be honest, you know, like since I've been here, I've been eating everything. When I travel, it's really hard. And I love food.

and every, you know, Los L.A. Life is just about going from restaurant to restaurant as far as I can see. I'm going straight to lunch after this. What are your spots to go? And I need specifics. Tonight, I'm having a party. Okay. And I'm going to Elefonte. Okay. And then I'm having a house party. You guys should stop by. All right. We'll get the details. Taylor, calm down. And then, yeah, come. Taylor's going to be catering it. Oh, back there. Oh, yes, Taylor's you. Don't forget about Taylor back there. It's my birthday. It's my birthday. It's your birthday? Is it really your birthday? Oh, no. Just like to celebrate it for a good year. Yeah, okay.

I was going to say, good thing we brought a fucking gift. Yeah, all my friends wanted to throw me one here. So then I like catch. I'm staying at the Chippriya. I showed I put that out there. Is this live? Is this live? It's not live. You'll be long gone before this.

Tripriani Hotel. What else do I like? I love Nobu. I've just been, oh, Soho house every weekend. I've been going down there. My friend owns it so he always books it for me. The Malibu one? The Malibu.

Okay. I went to Malibu last weekend and I'm going to go. That's the best one. It's the best one. one. And I like just going early afternoon and staying all the way through. And then I like house parties and things. You know, I think it's so much better than clubs. I mean, what about London? Do you miss it? Not at all. Not at all. Sick of it, huh? Yeah. I'm going back now. I get anxiety because everybody wants to see it. It's so full on. I'm going back on the fourth. I leave here and then go back

because I'm doing this charity rally with Paris Hilton. Yeah, tell us about that. So Paris and I've been friends since we were 16. Oh, she was 16. Hold on. How do you even meet Paris? We used to holiday together when we were little. So I, yeah, known her a long time, long, long time. She's big in Dubai too, right? Yeah. She's like, well, well known over there. Huge.

Like, I mean, literally I went to her perfume launch just now. I managed, I got so drunk, I actually straddled her perfume bottle. Nice. And almost went over the top of the balcony. She's always like, anyway, she thought it was funny. And then I took the Paris cut out home with me. In fact, it's still my house. Trying to get that into the car with me was interesting.

But we've been friends a long time, and I think we always go to crazy stuff like either. We end up in Ibiza together. We end up in Coachella together. And then this just seemed like another natural, ridiculous thing that we would do together. We were meant to be in sports cars, but Paris brought seven bloody luggage with us, and now we're in a G-wagon. It's 40 women. It's for three charities in Africa. And Paris won't let me drive.

So I will be map breeding. We are going London, Paris, Geneva, Monte Carlo. And each night in each city, there's a party. So I don't know how we're going to do this. It's seven hours driving a day. And if we don't kill each other, then, yeah, I don't know. And we've got a film crew in the back of our car. And this is for charity.

This is for charity. So we go now, we go the fourth to the ninth. I just spoke to her today. She's really, really excited about it. We've got, we've had Michael Causes made us those all in one red suits, you know. So cute. So we're going to go and it's got the whole thing on it. And it's going to be really, really fun.

I was like, let's, you know, take some friends with us. She's like, no, we are going to relive our youth. This is going to be fun. I'm actually really excited to do it. I'm also really scared that I'm just going to be Paris's own personal selfie taker the whole trip because there's a good chance. My arm is going to be like this, you know. But it's going to be fun. And then I get back.

I'm four, wait, four days and I fly to New York. I meet the Duchess of York. Ben Stiller and APJ and we fly to Haiti. And then we do the graduation of 3,000 children or 2,500 children that we put through school. How did you get plugged in with Ben Stiller? I didn't. Not that it's odd. No, it is an odd combination.

So I joined artist for peace and justice about four years ago now. And it was founded by Paul Haggis. He wrote Million Dollar Baby, Crash Casino Real. And he's a very good, very good friend of mine. And he made me come on board. And, you know, I love, I'm the only, they've got 30 A-List celebrities on the board. I mean, huge from Charlie's Theron to, I mean, you can't believe the names. Anyway, and Ben was one of them.

And when Paul, you know, stood back from the board last year, I think, you know, he's done it for a long time. And Ben took over. So now he is my, he's the guy that I do. He's the head honcho in charge over there. He's the head honcho. And so I do that, I do it with him. But, I mean, you know, and Susan Sarandon, and Madeline Stone. I just can't. I mean, my phone is like kids, kids, you know, normal things. And it's like, Madeline Stowe.

So it's mad. I'm like, how the fuck? I mean, when I saw the invitation, I was like, oh my God, you know, my school friends were like, how on earth does that happen? Anyway. That's got to be a good feeling though. With the school friends. Like, yeah, it's right. You're very involved in charity. Have you always been very involved? I just joined No Dogs Left Behind as well. So I'm going to Beijing to intercept trucks for the meat trade. Amazing. So that I'm going to do after this. I'm very, involved. I only pick, I pick small ones that I really, I mean, that I, they're not small, but the ones that I really, really feel passionate about, like with APJ, 100% goes to charity. They literally cash given to them. And you feel like it has more of an impact maybe? Yes. And then I dealt, you know, no dogs left behind. I'm like, that for me was a really

one close to my heart. When they asked me, like, Petronom Kovar called me three days ago and said, would you join? And I was, didn't even think about it because I hugely into my dog. And then the one, the rally one is run by a really good girlfriend. I'm not going to get more involved than I already just doing the drive because I work all year round for artists for peace and justice. And there's a lot of work. It really is a lot of work. Anyone that's ever done anything like this. And you're not paid obviously and nobody's paid, which is what I love about it. Everyone gives their time. So yeah, I believe in them. Otherwise I wouldn't do them. What are your three beauty tips? And the more specific, the better. The products that you're using, is there like skin care that you do? Okay, I get asked this question a lot and you're going to die. Okay.

I had my makeup done today. Okay. For my birthday tonight, I will be sleeping in this because it will last two days. Paris Hilton does that too. Yeah. Does she? Hold on. You guys sleep in your makeup.

Literally, my husband wakes up. There's like my face plant because I have the worst beauty routine. of anyone. First of all, I'm lazy as hell. I don't know how to, like, that whole, like, wash this, that, I just can't. I mean, if somebody's having to scrub you down in the bath, I can understand that adding the beauty routine, that's going to be way too big of a step. Really a lot. Yeah, I get it. I can understand. Wait, so do you sleep like a mummy? Explain this to me. I need to understand this. So you get your makeup done. Yeah, and then I'll just add to it in the morning. So, like, when Luke and I used to

travel, he was my makeup part. It's the one that scrubs me down. I mean, he was so cute because he used to lock the door going, I just don't want your husband to see me do this. I'm like, I think he knows you do this. He goes, I see her vagina more than sunlight. And I only showed it to him because I know he really hates it, like really hates it. It's not like he even wished to see it for a second. He's revolted by it. He's a gold star gay, never kissed a girl, never experimented. So it gives me so much pleasure to show it to him. Taylor, we'll love it. Taylor, you'll see it later. Oh, no. Jim, I love you. Sorry, Jam

Sorry, Jam Anyway, so yeah My skin care routine Is find a good doctor To do it for you Okay So like I just have the worst I literally use those wipes

And then Or I sleep in it So you sleep in your makeup What you're wearing right now And then you wake up And you just add more makeup to it Yeah Yeah

Lauren's about to have a meltdown Well I just can't believe That your skin looks The way it does And you do that If I sleep in my makeup For one night I'll have like 10 pimples

If I do a really good skincare routine I get 10 pimples Wow Whatever you're doing is working So keep doing that And what about like brows, spray tan, anything else? I'm just scrubbed

I'm about to have a spray tan this afternoon For my party I'm a spray tanning queen I like leave you know the outline of my body In the bed too So you've got my face on the pillow And then you've got the outline I mean

It's like a crime scene You can see exactly what happened My husband's just like He's like okay He can't bear it He cannot bear it I've just invented a sleep suit So I can literally cover myself

So I don't leave it all over him the things. I mean, he's, he's an actual, actual saint. Listen, as somebody who's had to experience the same thing with her, like, when you wake up and there's just this outline of brown, like, spray tan and makeup, an eyelash hanging off the pillow, you know. That happens. I was telling. I like to leave him on his pillow when he does something annoying. You know, as the, as the network, I had a conversation with Ardale, you know, and I was like, listen, I may be one of the only men on the planet, one of the only straight men on the planet, knows what an Ardell 113 is.

It's because my wife leaves those things. The 113s are the best because they open your eyes instead of closed. They're hanging all over the place. They're in the shower. Yeah. I just found them in the bottom of my bag because I can't apply them myself either. So my husband like literally, I mean, he managed to separate our bathrooms because he was like enough is enough.

But we couldn't separate the beds, unfortunately. So I think the key to marriage is a separate bathroom. Oh. We have separate bathroom. Yeah. It actually has changed. Who was it that we had on the show that the key was separate bedrooms? I was like, well, that's a little flower.

Everyone said the key separate houses too. No, we've never slept. Well, that's, you know, I was working towards that. Yeah. But who was that that came on? We've done too many of these things. I forget now. I don't remember.

I'll remember. We've never slept apart, like, unless we're traveling. We just, yeah. We don't like sleeping apart either. We like to sleep in the same. No, she can't, she can't get enough of me. She craves me. She thinks about me night and day.

I am 100% coming to Dubai. Can't wait to see. Okay. You'll come on my show. I would love to. I would love to come to Dubai. Is that where you record it? In Dubai, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you love Chris. Is Chris in Dubai? He's in Dubai. Yeah,

Virgin Radio, it's huge. All right, we're on our way. Okay, what is a book, a podcast, a resource that you would recommend to our audience? Oh, without a doubt, you're a badass. I read that book and it's life-changing. And every page, it's the weirdest thing. Is it that one with the yellow cover? Yes. Yeah. Every single page, something happened. Or who moved my cheese, if you're going through something, who moved my cheese. What's that about? It was one of the, it's about a mouse, believe you. or not, but it's like one of the most famous New York Times bestsellers. And it's about a mouse who, you know, went to get his cheese every day from the same spot and someone moved his cheese. So it's about like if in life, you know, if you really think that you're going from here to here and, you know, but someone moves your goals or your goalpost gets moved and you can't cope with it. This is

about that. And it's amazing. It's the most amazing. You are a mouse that's cheese has been moved and you've managed to find your cheese. Yes. Pimp yourself out. Where can everyone find you, your podcast, your Instagram, your website? Chris with a K, Chris Fade and Caroline Stambry on Spotify, iTunes, Angami, YouTube. Yeah, watch it. My first guest was Nicole. It was really, really fun. It's fun. It's just a laugh. It's nothing serious and you won't learn anything. That's okay, though. That's entertaining. I bet you'll learn a thing or two. And what about your Instagram? Because your Instagram stories are really funny. Oh, thank you. It's just at Caroline Stamberry.

Thank you so much for coming on. You're welcome to come. come back anytime you want. Oh, you're so lovely. I mean, there's a hundred different things I could have asked you. Okay. Well, I come back. I'm always happy to come back. Come on back.

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