The Bossticks - Chervin Jafarieh #3 - Part 1 of 2: On Essential Health Practices, Unhealthy Life Habits, Victim Mentality, & How We Unnecessarily Suffer
Episode Date: September 5, 2022#493: On today's episode we are joined for a 3rd time by friend of the show, and Cymbiotika founder, Chervin Jafarieh. Chervin returns to the show for what will be the first of a two part episode to d...iscuss essential health practices we can apply to our lives, unhealthy lifestyle habits we can eliminate, victime mentaility, and how we all suffer unnecessarily due to the choices we make with our health. Stay tuned for part 2 this upcoming Thursday. To connect with Chervin Jafarieh click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential This episode is brought to you by Shopify Shopify is more than a store. Connect with your customers. Drive sales. Manage your day-to-day. Go to www.shopify.com/skinny to get a free 14-day trial and access to all of Shopify's entire suite of features. This episode is brought to you by Beekeepers Naturals Beekeepers Naturals is female-founded and the products are clean and effective, third-party tested for all pesticides, and the brand is dedicated to sustainable beekeeping and helping save the bees. Get 25% off your first order at beekeepersnaturals.com/SKINNY or use code SKINNY at checkout. This episode is brought to you by Dr. Dennis Gross Help correct and prevent signs of sun aging with Dr. Dennis Gross Vitamin C Lactic for firmer, brighter, stronger skin. The quality of Dr. Dennis Gross ingredients, formulation, and delivery system all add up to you seeing real results– both immediate and long-term. Use code SKINNY at checkout for 20% off your first purchase at www.drdennisgross.com. This episode is brought to you by Athletic Greens You take one scoop of Athletic Greens and you're absorbing 75 high-quality vitamins, minerals, whole food supported superfoods, probiotics, and adaptogens to help start your day right. This is the best option for easy, optimal nutrition out there. Go to athleticgreens.com/SKINNY and get a free 1 year supply of Vitamin D + 5 travel packs with your first purchase. Produced by Dear Media
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I just want to take a minute, a moment of silence for you to acknowledge that I do not have candles
lit to fuck with your indecrine system.
Thank you so much.
That really means a lot to me that you are not fucking with my endocrine system.
I made the whole team.
I said, nobody wears cologne today.
Nobody wears perfume.
I said, don't fuck around today.
I just have a question for you to manipulate, Michael.
Let's kick this off on the right foot.
Candles, Cologne,
deodorant with a newborn.
I don't wear deodorant.
Let's, you, he, okay, let me tell, let me tell.
Oh, I never did.
Yesterday, he walks in to my baby's room
smelling like Sephora.
No, I don't.
I know.
And then he puts the baby on his shirt
so the baby's like breathing in,
like, clingy, happy or whatever.
Hold on, tell the truth.
I sprayed a little on my shirt,
but that's it.
I didn't do it.
Tell us all the dangers of that.
Just go off.
Oh, God.
Well, this is going to go.
The masking of all of our body's odors and everything that we have has become like a,
I don't know, a trillion dollar business from deodorants to makeup to all those things.
And what are we doing here?
We're basically shutting down our body's ability to say, hey, there might be something foul
going on in the body, right?
And people are basically living and sitting in their own toxic soup.
And then we're adding deodorant on top of it or adding cologne and all these things.
and subliminally, we're shutting down the body's ability to tell us something is off.
And that whole industry of blocking, we always talk about we're masking the symptoms with our health
and nutrition, but we're also masking it with our clothes, with our deodorant, with our
colognes or perfumes, all that kind of stuff.
And that stuff is an immediate shockwave of a toxic load.
So depending on which perfume or cologne or whatever it is, you're getting basically like
your mainlining those chemicals into your body.
So all of a sudden you have an inflammatory response and then you have oxidative stress.
usually like goes in that layer. In my opinion, it's one of the main assaults that we have
on mankind right now because not only is that stuff getting into everyone's bodies,
it's getting into our waterways, it's getting into our atmosphere, it's getting everywhere,
it's in the soil. It's like where do these chemicals go? They don't evaporate. They're just
getting washed into our water supply. It's insanity levels. And then the concept of deodorant,
for women especially, men too, why would you want to plug up the main detox pathway in that
area of the lymph system. That is one of the most crucial areas to release hormones and toxins and
heavy metals and whatever metabolic stuff that's building up, you know, throughout your every day.
And so, you know, I'm not going to say it's a direct link to breast cancer, but there are
studies out there that show that. And it makes sense. I mean, you know, that's a, that's a crucial area
and so many things are going on there, including phytoestrogens and all the other stuff.
I don't wear deodorant. And it's really offensive to Michael after I just had a baby.
I don't wear deodorant either.
I feel like the epidural.
This is so crazy.
It needs to like sweat out of me.
I know you don't love an epidural.
I'm sure.
I'm not shame.
No,
you had to do what you have to do.
Okay.
So I feel like it's coming out of my system.
If you had a newborn, would you just not wear Cologne at all?
Nothing.
I don't wear Cologne at all.
I haven't worn Cologne in 15, 16 years.
I remember I had that cool water or that Dulcigabana or whatever.
Yeah.
A little bit.
I haven't worn cologne or deodorant in 15 years.
Once in a while,
we'll put on like some kind of, you know, crystal or clay or whatever. So it's not blocking the
pathways. But because I don't have candida in my body and I'm cleansing constantly, I'm not
building up layers of toxic load and my pheromones are speaking for me, right? We want our pheromones
to speak for us. And so if you're constantly just blocking that, you have no idea what you're
working with. And that's what I was talking about earlier. I was saying that we, if you are smelling like
sulfur. That means something's going off in the body. And that's why I don't go to gyms anymore.
I don't, yeah, it's like, I can't, I can't deal with that. It's smelling is one of the most
powerful senses. You smell your mom's cooking. You remember being seven years young in your mom's
kitchen. You remember the food. All the memories pop up, right? You smell solvents and all these
chemicals. Like, where is that taking you? It's taking you to hell. It's so interesting because
when I was pregnant, I became so sensitive to house cleaning supplies. And so I just did a whole,
after you came on the podcast too, I completely cleared everything out. We switched to branch basics.
I hope you approve. No, no. Anything that you can do to support a company and support yourself by using
the right chemicals and the right solvents and the right products in your own house is so important.
We're worried about the lawn, but we're not worried about what's inside our house. And it's like,
you have to be using these things in your home. It's so important. We talked about this. This came up in our last conversation.
in symbiotica, we're working our tails off to release the entire home line. We're very,
very close. I'd say we're a few months away. And so it's just as important. And I'm all for
supporting companies that are doing things the right way. They're packaging it the right way.
And they're using the right nutrients to create homeostasis in the built environment in your home.
And that's what the whole thing is like chemicals are used to like destroy everything. Right.
Remember during the pandemic, everyone was putting all the weird outside.
alcohols and lysols and spraying it everywhere. What does that stuff do? That stuff kills everything
in its path, just like an antibiotic. It's the same thing. You can't have this stuff in your home.
You need to have a nice balanced ecosystem in your home. You're breathing, you're playing, you're touching.
You have kids. This is like it's bonkers out there.
Now if anyone uses anything, any kind of cleaning supply, anything, I can immediately smell it.
When you switch over like you're saying to all natural and you see,
smell something that's not, you immediately are like, it's like what the fuck to your senses.
Yeah.
Which tells me that like we're not, we're not really supposed to be using all of this stuff to cover
stuff up.
No, we're not.
It's repulsive actually.
It's a repulsive feeling.
I'm repulsed by these biochemical warfares.
I want to throw up.
I want to get out of there.
And I'm also releasing cortisol on a high level.
I can tell the stress hormones are kicking in.
Not to mention, I mean, just think about it.
You're breathing.
Imagine someone's breathing this three, four times.
it's nonstop, just breathing out.
What is that doing to their brain chemistry?
You know what I mean?
Like we're talking about neurotransmitters that are out of whack.
You know, you're kind of almost getting to the point where you're numbing your frontal cortex and other things as well.
It's insanity.
So let's, can we go a little deeper on this?
And then I have another question, but shampoo, conditioners, body washes.
Yeah.
What about that?
Same thing.
I mean, come on.
Totally.
So is there a brand that you go to or what do you do?
I mean, I kind of make everything at my house.
Oh, God.
So you're like, you're breaking bad.
Yeah, like breaking bad, yeah, of course.
What are the ingredients if you were going to use like a kind of soap to clean your body?
Like what ingredients would you look for?
You got coconut oil, of course.
Coconut oils, anti-bacterial, antimicrobial.
I love fats on my body.
Fats feel good.
Apple cider, vinegar, lemon.
There's a couple herbs that you can use charcoal, things like that.
Why change the alchemy of your body?
So I'm big on like your skin.
Like I take skin really important, but I'm not like this whole like putting,
nine serums on my face and doing all this bullshit, we have a pH on our skin. It's a microbiome.
And every time you mess with it, you're dilapitating that biome. And then you're opening up
yourselves to funguses and different things. And then you have inflammation. Inflammation causes
dryness. Then you have wrinkles and all that kind of stuff. So I only want to put anything on
my body that my body receives it well and understands it. And there's no like warfare on my system.
And that goes for shampoos, that goes for conditioners, that goes for body wash, all that kind of stuff.
Is there anything you do when you get your groceries?
Like, do you soak your fruits and vegetables?
I saw this on TikTok and like white vinegar.
Like, are there things that you do before you eat things that you get at the grocery store?
It depends.
I mean, if you're getting your veggies at a farmer's market and you know how they're growing it,
I don't do that because I want those, I want those biotics in there, right?
I don't want to rinse off little microbes and stuff like that.
I love getting food from the farmer's market and there's snails and worms and I'm all about,
I'll eat all that stuff.
You eat the snails.
I'll eat the snails now that you just told me to eat the snail.
I don't know I could eat the snails.
I'll eat anything for beauty.
Right.
Like if you're like, I will eat.
If you're like drink Michael's calmed on your throat for beauty.
Yeah.
That's a lot of beauty.
Well, we're working on.
You might age in reverse actually, Lange.
We're working on a sperm adine product.
Oh, really?
Are you being serious?
I'm so serious.
of course.
What is a spermadine product?
Yeah, explain that.
We're pivoting.
We're pivoting now.
Yeah.
Changing to sperm.
Well, spermodine is a very interesting compound.
It's a powerful nutrient and it induces some of the actions of fasting and autophagy.
It really is a very interesting molecule for anti-aging.
It's usually designed and created through a fermentation process.
But it's very similar in terms of what is in our sperm, in terms of the coating and the
nutrients that keep the sperm alive. And so it's like, it's the nectar. It's the golden nectar,
right? And I just say this right now, like for women out there and whoever is listening to this,
we hold a lot of our men hold a lot of their toxins and a lot of their karma and a lot of their
frequency in that, in that alchemy. So choose wisely, know exactly who you're dealing with and look at
their regimen. Hold on. Hold on. So you're saying, if someone gives someone a
blowjob and they ejaculate in their face and it's all over their face that I'm taking on that
frequency and that karma.
Why do you be so vulgar line?
I'm just wondering.
I'm going to get killed for this.
The headline.
Can you imagine the headline?
Yeah, yeah.
The typewriter's going right now.
Oh my God.
But you actually take on the energy through the sperm.
I was thinking more of them swallowing it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but I'm sure there's something there in the residual on the top of the,
as well.
Let's get really.
I thought you were going the angle if somebody like...
Ejaculates in you?
It was...
Inseminating someone.
It was having a, you know...
Regular sex.
Yeah, regular sex.
That too.
See, we're all on different pages here.
Boyn was on the dirtiest page.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, she's full on.
I like your frequency.
So that's good, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
Well, when I met my frequency, I didn't mean it's so cosmic.
I meant it more like you know how they're spending their every days.
you know what the foods they're putting in their body. You know what they're not doing, right?
Like people are still like, you know, eating weird shit all day long and they're backed up and
they're constipated and they're filled with chemicals. Their livers are dilapidated. Their lungs are
filled with crap and they're just like a big poison bag. You know, that's that's a big majority of
the population. Unfortunately, it breaks my heart. And that's why we have these conversations so we
can help motivate and give opportunities for people to come into balance. That's really what it's
all about. We can't just like fly by and just roll dice with our health and our life.
If you had a magic wand that you could just use against...
I do have a magic wand.
No, go ahead. Show it. Show your frequency.
Oh, here we go. Michael. How good's your karma. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. These are dating questions.
Let's brand it in symbiotica. Sharvine special.
The Sharvine frequency.
If you had a magic wand
Samadica team, I'm so sorry
If you had a magic wand
That you could just say
You got to think about that
Your team's pretty big now
You've got to think about all the different people listening
HR's going to call
Where he's got
If you could say
And edit
What the world was doing
Like you can edit what they're eating
You know what products they're using at home
And they're cleaning
Like if you could edit a bunch of things
What would you edit for everyone?
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Initially, I'd edit their ability to not be so stuck in a system that they feel like everything is out.
Like they're falling off a cliff all the time.
You know, there's a frequency that people are so lost.
And that's accurate to a certain degree.
But that frequency removes your power.
and it disables your faculties to take charge of your health.
So we have to start at the root.
Like, why are we in this poverty conscious with our health?
Why are we in this scarcity mentality with our health?
And you're going to have a lot of people that say, well,
Chairman, I don't have access to these foods.
I can't pay for these supplements.
I don't know where to get clean water.
I don't want to do these things.
You don't need so much abundance to get sun on your body at 6 a.m.
You don't need so much money to figure out, you know,
where you're going to get a healthy meal.
You know, you have to take ownership of your life first and foremost.
So I think that there has been a great deal of effort to remove the sovereignty, I would say
soul from humanity.
And that sovereignty soul is missing and that's taking us down a course of escapism behavior,
blaming behavior, anger behavior, blaming the big bad government, blaming their neighbor,
blaming their parents on the trauma.
this never is working out for anyone and it's creating a slippery slide for us to develop toxic
tendencies and toxic patterns. And so for me, it's like, okay, what are your toxic patterns?
What are you doing in the last two weeks that's taking you out of your front and center?
That's not taking you closer to getting to a step where you have abundance, the things that you're
crying for and so sad that you don't have. What are you doing every single day to write that chip?
because there is opportunity out there. There's so much opportunity in this world. And I know some people
got dealt a very difficult hand. I mean, my parents immigrated with nothing to this country. They worked
their ass off. My father killed himself to provide for my sister and my mother to give us a life,
to give me an opportunity to grow. Everyone thinks that all this just developed and evaporated from
a rainfall. It did not. It was blood, sweat, tears, sacrifice. And I want to enthrust that
into the souls of hearts and hearts of men and women.
We can talk about all the different strategies, all the different tactics, all those things.
But without this type of consciousness, it's all for nothing.
It's all for nothing.
That's the cornerstone of my message.
Follow me on social media.
That's really all I'm talking about.
Especially in the last two years, like we're ingrained, especially in this culture for whatever
reason now.
There's this whole thing.
Anytime you start to tell people they got to start thinking about helping themselves
and that nobody's coming to save you. The first thing, privilege, privilege. It's like, okay,
throw that aside. Still nobody's coming to save you. You have to take accountability for your health,
for your own life, for the actions you take, for your success or your failure, and you have to
realize that nobody's coming. Nobody cares about your backstory. It doesn't matter.
Everybody's got issues. Everybody got their own problems. Totally. And you can cite privilege or you can
tell it, you can give yourself 80 reasons about why you can't do something or why you don't have
something. But the fact of the matter is until you start taking personal accountability,
nothing is going to change. That's right there.
I mean, that's it. The victim mentality is disabled our values and our ability to stand up for ourselves.
What you just said was flawless. And it's not having empathy or compassion for people that are going through rough times.
I mean, the mother of God, the last three years of my life was the most difficult time of my life.
I lost my best friend. I lost my father. I was on the verge of collapse.
We all have these obstacles. That's what makes us who we are.
That is the medicine of life and the elixir of becoming your Darmic warrior.
And that's the path of the warrior.
And then we go through the dark nights of our soul.
And so if you're listening to this, and this is a really hilarious conversation with,
I think a lot of keys and a lot of coding, is that there are so many routes to go with
your health in terms of detoxification, in terms of nutrition, in terms of figuring out a balance
and homeostasis with your training and your workouts and your breathwork and finding faith in something
and figuring out your sphere of influence with your friends and family.
That's so important.
But at the core of it is your ability to look yourself in the fucking mirror
and have discernment with your life and the choices that you've made
to get you to where you are.
Because you are some of the decisions you have made.
That's the true essence.
Let's talk about that more.
This podcast has an underlining theme that you are not everything,
but there is a big part that you are some of the decisions that you made.
You are the sum of the decisions.
Right.
Quickly, two people, like, when you say, when you talk about empathy for people that may be in
these tougher situations, I actually think this is the most empathetic position because
you're telling them, listen, if you fundamentally understand that nobody is going to
help you and that it's not going to change, the government's not going to help you, your
friend, your dad, your mom, nobody's coming.
It's all on you.
And you could get that message through them.
That's the moment when someone can start saying, okay, now I can change my life because
I realize I have to change my life.
Nobody else is going to change my life for me.
Michael, that's it.
Yeah. What other choice do you have? You don't have a choice. You don't have any other choice.
So are we going to be stuck in illusion? Are we going to be stuck in the, I would say, the pattern of
pain and frustration that you've probably done your entire life? Or are you going to call yourself
higher and say, fuck it, this is, I'm not going to wait until the next life. I'm all in right now.
Because you don't, because there's no other choice. Yeah, people get mad at the bluntness of the
message or the messenger, but it's the right message. It's the truth. It's how I learned. You know,
I remember feeling like a victim at certain points in my life.
And it just tailspin me out of what I'm here to serve and what I'm here to do.
What I'm doing on a daily basis, on a weekly basis, monthly basis is not easy.
You know, sometimes I put stories of us, you know, overlooking our guarded in the Pacific
ocean and walking barefoot and traveling the cool places.
But that's just like 30, 40 seconds of my timeline.
What they don't see is getting up at 5 a.m.
And fucking grinding for eight, nine hours straight.
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dealing with all my farmers, dealing with all my extractors, dealing with 10,000 people messaging
me a day telling me their life story and the pain and trauma they're going with.
It's like, me attacking you being like, I need to get my baby weight off, give me something.
Right. Yeah. Well, I'm here for that one. And so you get my drift. You know firsthand. It's all
relative. We, you know, our lives, we're talking about it before. It's like storytelling and so many
people project what they think someone is or who they are or why they are. They have no clue.
They're just seeing one segment and they're coming up with their own form of perspective. And
that right there is a fatal flaw. And you're just creating a disservice for yourself.
I try to say this all the time. When people watch my Instagram stories, even if there's 30 dots at
the top. That is five minutes of my day. Five minutes. Literally add it up. It's five minutes.
Yeah. The podcast is two hours of my week. So if you're just basing your opinions, it's projection
and you're not really, you're not, it's so true. You're not seeing you sweating, you waking up
at five, you doing all the stuff to get to you to get you to the place where you can put your
feet in the sand and look out of the Pacific Ocean. That's right. They're missing the 110 hours
of the rest of the week. Yeah. I really want to do.
wanted you to come on because selfishly, obviously, I'm postpartum. But I think also there's so many
people listening who have had a baby or they're in postpartum or maybe it's two years later.
Or getting ready to have one. Whatever it is. And I think this is the perfect platform to discuss
postpartum in general. It's incredible how many messages I got when I said I'm going to Austin,
but I didn't say any details. And ever, I got at least maybe a hundred people have messaged me saying,
please tell me you're going back on the skinny
and you're going to talk about postpartum.
People really want to talk about postpartum.
I don't know.
How did they figure that out?
Because we mentioned it maybe?
Because I've been snapping tips that you've been giving me
on my stories postpartum.
So I've been saying like you told me,
this is just a little tip,
you told me to eat poached eggs
because the yolk is more raw
and it's really good postpartum.
You also told me to get cold in ice to burn fat.
Like you've given me a little,
We have about 200 people outside after this because you're sticking around for the signing, right?
You're doing.
Sure.
Yeah.
I'm going to sign with my left foot.
Cologne and deodorant on.
They're ready to go.
Hey,
I'm built for this.
So what are those postpartum Easter eggs that you can share with the audience?
What are things?
I love like little tips that we can do.
And I will say this, whatever you guys have been talking about and saying, okay, I was there the first
time.
First postpartum.
Yeah.
And let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
It was rough on me.
It was rough on me.
Nobody talked about the trauma that I went through.
Wow.
Yeah, I mean, it was like...
Don't be a victim of your trauma.
We could go back to the archives in here, but no, it was, I mean, listen, bad headspace.
She wasn't happy with the results.
She was not in a good mood.
I mean, we talked about it.
I was happy with the result.
That was my baby.
Not that result.
Yeah, I was gonna ask him, what does he mean by...
No, she was just like her...
She was fucked up.
I was fucked up.
Okay, gotcha.
Gotcha.
She was not in a good place.
Listen, we've already go through the, we've already gone through.
We've already dragged me through the mud of me.
But this pregnancy, I supplemented the whole time.
with symbiotica. I did my minerals.
I said this time it's like night and day.
She's much better move. We're doing ice bath.
She's supplementing. Whatever you're telling her is what I'm saying is obviously
working night and day compared to the first pregnancy.
That worms my heart and I think that's the greatest news of all time.
And I think...
Me too. It's the greatest.
Yeah. It's so important for both, you know, man and woman to come together during that process
because, you know, you guys are bouncing energy off each other.
I don't want to get to your favorite word, granular here.
That's Lauren's favorite word.
Is that Lauren's favorite word?
Sure, okay. You know, there's some technical aspects that happen during pregnancy and post-pregnancy almost immediately. And I'm just going to, I'll just make it very basic. You know, so you have progesterone levels that are skyrocketing during pregnancy for a number of reasons. I think one of the main reasons is loosening up all your ligaments so you can move the body and do all that kind of stuff. And then you also have prolactin levels kind of building up, you know, for your memory glands and stuff like.
that. And so when you give birth, all of a sudden, the progesterone drops off, and then you have a spike in
prolactin, and the prolactin lowers dopamine. And so all of a sudden, you're kind of left in a
rebound of some of the most powerful hormones ever. And when dopamine is gone, your pleasure
hormone's gone, that affects everything else. And serotonin's dwindling and all these different things.
So this is a very, this is, this is the science of it, right? But what can we do to mitigate this process?
What part of our daily activities can we do?
So the number one thing, in my opinion, and I'm not a doctor, but just is just, and I'm
not a woman, right?
So the best, my best thing is have as much sex as possible.
Okay.
That's probably the most important thing a woman can do even during pregnancy and even after
pregnancy is that sex is the main stimulator to keep the hormones in check, keep the
metabolism in check, to keep the energy levels where they are, to loosen the frequency of
pain, frustration, and also the, I'm not worthy, I'm not healthy, I'm fat, I'm all these things,
which are all illusions. You know, you gain weights because you just carried a child and your
child's feeding off you. You got to, like, you got to hold that. That's why, you know,
women have those abilities to expand in those regions. It's so important. So that's what, that's
probably the number one thing. Number two, cry as much as possible. That's really, really
important. When you're feeling something and if you bite your tongue, bite your lip and hold back,
it's terrible. I'm not a big crier. Okay, well, you need to start crying. We need to figure out how
we can get Lauren to cry. We need you to cry. Crying is a start wearing more alone. Yeah, that could work.
But like, and I mean it like if you're feeling something on a deep, deep level, don't hold it. That's
important. So if you're listening to this, just let it out and create a situation where you have a partner and I'm hoping.
That was the first time. For sure you didn't let it.
For the first time she let it all. No, she did not. Okay, that's good. A lot of people just,
they feel like they just can't be themselves around their significant, which just really
sucks. It's terrible. You know, that's a cultural thing and that's common. And, you know,
just let out all that emotion. Number three, you know, movement, right? So movement is so
important postpartum. You have to exercise. You have to release those endorphins. You have to tap
into your adrenaline stores. You have to keep the body in a state of goo. And what I mean by goo,
is like loose and all that kind of stuff. If you're just sitting around all day long,
watching TV and scrolling through your social media, you're going to be doing your hormones.
You're going to be doing your metabolic system. You're going to be doing your self-confidence.
A big, big no-no. And so that's one of those three right there, I think are the most important.
We can go down some of the nutrients, some of the herbs, some of that stuff. I love that you're cold
plunging and doing it like that. I think getting in front of the sun, super important. The sun is serotonin.
right so right on the rise get naked in front of the sun so if you're listening to this you just had a baby
get as much sun exposure as you can on the rise of course you know cover your face you're not getting
blasted on the face for too long are you a butthole center i'm a butthole and a ball center so can i just
really quick take one quick tangent so are you outside like in happy baby with your butthole and
your balls hanging out like how do how does you do this in the morning i kind of flip my legs
doing is like looking at yeah i flip my legs over my shoulder and
And I do the Jim Carrey, you know how he speaks out of his ass.
Yeah, it's, no, but seriously.
Document it.
We, yeah, I should.
We're supposed to get sun on our genitals.
Like, what the hell?
We're not supposed to be in incubated boxes with incubated light, incubated temperatures,
getting door dash.
What the hell happened to our species?
That's why we're, the sedentary is the root of disease.
It's stagnation.
stagnation is the root of disease. When things aren't moving, you die. It's as simple as that.
Bones don't work. Ligament stop working, all the nutrients and the body stuff flowing and all that
stuff. And so you've got to keep moving. I love jumping on a rebounder for women too. Rebounding is
excellent, excellent tool to get the lymph system going. Sometimes women are backed up emotionally
and it could be a stagnation in the body. Right. So you... I jump today. Okay. Epic. Inversions,
all that kind of stuff. Staying hydrated. Getting your nutrients. Eating a
well-balanced meal, not fasting too long. You want to be eating constantly every two,
three hours, in my opinion. These are things that are important. We want to stabilize the body
and allow the levels and the hormones to naturally go back to where they are.
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I actually called you and I was like, you were telling me this and I was like, oh my God, I'm not
eating enough. Like I would just not eat until noon or one. Because one, I wasn't, I'm not really
hungry in the morning. And there's so much to do with the kids. You're not hungry because of the cortisol,
right? So that's why we don't, we're not hungry on the rise. Cortisol is what wakes us up.
And cortisol blunts growling our hunger hormones. So you got to get into the habit of, you know,
getting food in, getting protein and healthy fats in on the rise. That's so important for you.
That would drop pregnancy after pregnancy, all of it. So what's, what's a lot of? So what's,
a great breakfast to wake up and eat postpartum? I think a nice, healthy, fatty meat with some
poached eggs and maybe some gourmeted sourdough. That's not, you're not getting it from
like some regular grocery store. Like you know where that, where that bacteria strain came from.
I think that's an awesome meal to have. When you say fatty meat, you mean like wagoo? What's a fatty
meat? Like a little bit of a rabbi or, you know, maybe some ground beef, maybe some duck, you know,
just healthy fats.
I was talking to...
Turkey is good for you as well because of the tryptophan.
The triptophan helps produce serotonin.
Oh, that makes sense.
Yeah, so...
I was talking to my trainer, Brent, the other day, and he was telling me that he follows
this girl on Instagram, and she basically is calling out the food industry.
She's saying that it's so crazy that everyone's like, don't eat meat, don't eat meat,
but no one's talking about the 1,200 aisles of processed food.
Oh, it's insane.
Did you see that video I just did?
It went viral.
for lack of a better term. I think there's almost a million views I posted it two days ago.
It's about the just egg. Oh, I did see that. That's insane. Yeah, that's insane.
What, tell us. Well, you know, and I want to make this clear. I'm not attacking veganism.
You know, that's your, that's your, you know, discernment to become vegan, especially the moral
vegans. I've been around veganism my whole life. I have so many, I have a lot of respect for people
that are doing it the right way. Do I think it's optimal for health? I do not. I did a,
I did a post. There was this product that was at Whole Foods and it was filled with canola oil
and all these other weird things in there. And it was a faux egg. And you know, you cook it on a
pan. It was intense. And if you go down the list, it's, you know, it's terrible stuff to put in the
body. It's just immediate inflammation in the body. And I received such great remarks on that,
but there is a, there was a small percentage of people that thought I was attacking veganism and I'm,
and I'm not. I just want to make that clear. Do I think veganism is,
good for your health. I don't. But I'm not attacking vegans. I want to make that super clear.
Well, what's happened to in that space is like as it's risen, it's been commercialized.
And you have all these players that are coming in and doing the same thing that they've done in,
you know, regular food space, right? Is that how you can say it?
Yeah. Or they're coming in and putting all these unnecessary chemicals into these
plant-based foods and they've turned them into things that are not natural anymore.
That's right. The processing of a lot of these compounds becomes more hectic and wreaks havoc on the
body. Our body doesn't recognize what these are. And it just keeps your, it keeps your vibration at a
low level, in my opinion. We want to eat whole foods, foods that we know where they're coming from,
foods that are ancestral in their process. You don't want to give a blowjob to someone who just ate just
an egg. Listen, I have no problem with here. That's a bad frequency. I saw you scheming over there.
Look, I could see it in her eyes. She sat back. She was just like, she was waiting for the moment.
She was reviewing the conversation.
And I saw her eyebrow quiver and then boom, she went for it.
Dude, you're a berserker.
If you're a guy and you're eating just egg, please don't get a blow job and spew everywhere
because we don't want that frequency on our face.
You love canola oil.
You talk about like moral veganism, too.
I have no problem with that either.
But I think people need to educate themselves more about what takes place to produce all of these things
and how many species actually get obliterated.
Absolutely.
Right?
Like, you know, you can have it.
Completely obliterated.
Completely. You can have your qualms with meat, especially if it's raised the right way. But look at what some of these fields of plants do and the species they obliterate to make them.
Yeah, I mean, it's killing the whole village, right? And so I'm with you on that. And here's the deal. I'm against commercial meat farming. I've been an opponent against commercial meat agriculture, big textile agriculture. It's the destruction of Earth. It's one of the most disastrous things of all time. What they've done with chicken stocking. I mean, I want to puke.
and I'll go to war with that any day of the week.
That's not how I'm getting my food.
That's not the nutrition that I eat.
I eat organic, pasture raise chicken eggs.
You know, we're about to have our own chickens.
I'm about that life.
You can find balance and everything.
It's not got to be so absolutely extreme.
And I think everyone's just angry.
Everyone's, you know, got something that they want to say.
At the end of the day, you got to do what's right for you.
You got to do what's right for your family.
And you got to do what you have access to.
Why do you think people are angry?
We're in an interesting realm right now.
This dimension is poverty-stricken, and we're, for lack of a better term, we're all in some
kind of servitude, right?
We have to be doing something to be able to get something, to get shelter, to get this.
And so I think with the way that our structure is, our medical system, our financial system,
our school system, all these things, they've not created a utopic energy of where we're finding
freedom in our everyday life. So people are struggling out there. And when you have struggle,
that struggle is passed on to their kids. It's passed on to their kids. It's passed on to their
kids. So we're like in a kind of loop system of this anger and frustration. And it's getting worse
and worse, in my opinion. I do think that there's a lot of groups out there. I feel like I'm part
of it as well that's, you know, providing solutions that's going for it. But,
But at the end of the day, if you really look at it on a macro level,
this is just a lot of suffering out there.
And people are sick of it.
And they're unhealthy, right?
Right.
Right.
So if you can't produce the right neurotransmitters
because you have dysbiosis in your gut and your large intestines,
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