The Bossticks - Denise Richards Exposes The Dark Side Of Fame: Her Public Divorce, Dealing With Negativity, RHOBH, & Surviving Hollywood

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

#826: Join us as we sit down with Denise Richards – acclaimed actress, businesswoman, philanthropist, & New York Times Best-Selling author of The Real Girl Next Door. Denise skyrocketed to fame in the late '90s & early 2000s with unforgettable roles in classics like Wild Things, Starship Troopers, & the James Bond hit, The World Is Not Enough. Since then, she's continued to dominate the screens, becoming a household name through her acting & modeling career. Denise later brought her star power to reality TV, joining The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills & leading her own Bravo series –  Denise Richards & Her Wild Things! In this episode, Denise gets candid about her rise to fame, her evolution from movie star to reality TV icon, what it's really like living in the Hollywood spotlight, & how she prepared her family for the realities of being on-screen. To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To connect with Denise Richards click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone]. This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn's favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential For a better choice and peace of mind in your home, shop The Skinny Confidential Toilet Paper at shopskinnyconfidential.com. This episode is sponsored by SuppCo SuppCo is currently in beta and users can get 100% FREE access by going to supp.co/SKINNY. Podcast listeners will also get early access to SuppCo's founding membership when it launches in early 2025. This episode is sponsored by Arrae Go to arrae.com and use code 'SKINNY' at checkout to receive 15% off and 4 free Bloat travel packs with your first purchase or autoship order. This episode is sponsored by ARMRA Go to tryarmra.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY to get 15% off your first order. This episode is sponsored by Ritual Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/skinny. This episode is sponsored by OSEA Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code SKINNY at OSEAMalibu.com. This episode is sponsored by Caraway Visit Carawayhome.com/theskinny10 or use code theskinny10 at checkout to take an additional 10% off your next purchase. Produced by Dear Media  

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

What a show, Denise Richards. We get to sit down with her and talk about her multifaceted, career in the entertainment industry, her early aspirations of modeling, starship troopers, wild things, her experiences as a bond girl, and real housewives. She's really done it all. She's also faced a lot of public scrutiny during her divorce from Charlie Sheen. She is a mother of three, but what I like about her is she emphasizes her commitment on her family, even in all the chaos of fame. She's lovely. She's down to earth. She's warm and she's cool. I got to tell you, I really like Denise. On that note, Denise Richards, welcome to the show. This is the skinny confidential, him and

her. Denise Richards, so many moments that you've had that we'll go over in the show. We are so excited to have you. Michael Taylor, don't get too excited. Listen, they might have had posters on their wall. Oh. It's possible. Thank you. If I go back to the younger me. Yeah. I think like while we were dating when we were 12, he might have had posters. I'm not sure. That makes me feel really old, but thank you. No, you should feel iconic. It's amazing. I feel very flattered. Thank you. We're very excited to have you on the mic. Obviously, everyone already knows you who's listening, but just give a little overview for anyone maybe who doesn't. I've done a lot of different movies, TV shows, some of the movies that people might recognize. me from are Starship Troopers. I was a blonde girl. I was in Wild Things. Those are, I think, and Drop-Deggorgeous, those are the movies that I think that people recognize me from. And then television, reality world, especially, I would say from Housewives of Beverly Hills was the last

reality show that I did before ours. When you were a little girl, did you always know you wanted to get in the entertainment business? As a little girl, even though I grew up in Illinois, and I didn't grow up around the industry. I always wanted to be an actress. I didn't know how it would be because we didn't live in Hollywood or anything like that, but I knew that I always wanted to act. And were your parents in tune with that? Did they know? I think so. Yeah. So what was the first moment that you dipped your toe in the acting pond? We moved to California when I was a teenager. My dad got a job transfer, and I started modeling when I was was 15 years old, and I was taking drama classes, acting classes in high school. And then I started

modeling after I graduated high school, and I knew that acting was something that I really wanted to do. And so I just started taking acting classes. I was lucky enough to get an agency right away and just started building up my resume, doing small parts. Doogie Hauser and Saved by the Bell were the TV shows that got me my sag card and I had one line or two lines in each show. So that's what got my sad card. So I just started, you know, pounding the pavement. And what's the first like hit? Well, I did a few pilots. They did not go. For television or for television? And a pilot for those of people that don't know that, it's just shooting an episode. There was always this pilot season back then. Now it seems like it's all year long because all the different streaming platforms.

But when I started out, there was a certain time of the year where it was pilot season and we would shoot a show, a pilot, an episode. And then if the network picked it up, then it turned into a series for the season. And I did a few of those. One was for the creators from Married with Children that, you know, all these did not go. One was with Aaron Spelling and all of us thought, oh, we got the next Mowrose 90210. No show didn't go. And it was just so I think my big break was when I got Starship Troopers because we were all unknowns pretty much except for Michael Ironside and Clancy.

They had obviously worked more than any of us actors, but it was like the first movie where I was like, oh, it's going to be in. We were like, oh, it's going to be in the movie theater. That was a great movie, by the way. That was a great movie. I remember my dad took me into that. my mom got mad. It was a violent movie. It was like,

I know. I love Paul for heven. Paul Verhoven. For Hoven. But yes. I'm sure he would take either way how you say it. You look so beautiful

in that movie. Thank you. I know. Oh, she looked so beautiful. I thought you said he looked so beautiful. I thought you said Paul to. Like, wow.

Yeah, you did. Yeah. No. Thank you. Paul Verhoven directed it. And it was with all, and we're all still,

most of us are still friends from the cast. And it was just such a, it took six months to shoot and it was just that I was my break into being in in the business really even though I was doing little jobs that no one knew I was in that was the thing that changed my career so when you're when you're in that movie and you're as beautiful as you are is there a line out the door of guys that want to date you how does that work are they intimidated I don't know when you look

like that and you're on that movie I'm not thinking about that I'm thinking about oh my gosh I'm in a movie. They were thinking about you. Well, I'm not thinking about that, but thank you for saying, but I'm just thinking I'm so excited. I've worked so hard after all these acting classes and all the rejection and everything. I got a movie that people are going to maybe see. I think it's so important to hear you say that you got rejected so many times because so many people make it look so effortless getting into Hollywood and it is so much rejection. And that's hard, but it almost seems like it becomes like reps. Like you just start to kind of get used to it and go through it to get to the other side.

Yeah, you do. And I, people that ask me that are starting out, they, my advice would, my advice would is always just, if this is your passion, keep going. And all the rejection, that, it takes one job to change your career. And it's worth it. It's worth the rejection. And it is hard. It is not easy to be told no so many times.

When I did first start, my first week of auditioning was for Save by the Bell, which was such a popular show back when I started out and Dugie Hauser. And I thought, oh, gosh, this is great. But then, you know, months of rejection after that. So it is. It wasn't easy. No, I can't imagine. It's a lot. When your career started taking off, were there any roles that you turned down, that you regret turning down?

I don't regret turning them down. I did turn down different roles that when you do see it come out, you're like, oh, I always like to say, like, I don't have any regrets because I feel that different choices bring you where you're supposed to be and what's meant to be. And, you know, things are learning lessons too. But, you know, there were a lot that I turned down and there were a lot that or and some that I did do that I was like, hmm, I don't done that too. So maybe one that came out that you're like, oh, that would have been cool if I did that one. Yes, and I never stay.

It's a secret, Michael. You'll have to go back and watch some old movies. When you found out that you were going to become a bond girl, were you freaking out? Or did you not understand what gravity? I didn't understand the gravity of being a bond girl. I auditioned for it, and then I flew to London. They screen tested a few actresses with Pierce.

with Pierce Brosnan and we all flew to London and then we did our screen test and then we went back where we all lived and it was like a week or so later when they let me know that I got the part. I have said this before in interviews. I've never, I hadn't seen at that time a Bond movie. Ever? At that time when I auditioned, I didn't. So I didn't understand. I remember asking my agent, why am I? Am I? on the news for a movie. Because at that point, I had done Starship Troopers and Wild Things, and I think I did Drop Dead Gorgeous

or it was after I can't remember, but I didn't understand why it was news. And he was like, do you understand that you're in a Bond movie? And I quickly knew and learned. And then I saw some movies. When you were in that movie, is there anything that you had to do to prep

or were you just already in shape ready to go, didn't have to do anything? So I got the part. I screen tested out. I'll never forget it because it was Thanksgiving. And my dad came with me to go to London to screen test because our family is always together on Thanksgiving. So my dad came with me.

And then I remember we started filming in January in London until June. And the movie came out in November. So it was quick. Oh, wow. And so what happens when it comes out and the fans see it? It's a whirlwind. It is a whirlwind.

Could you even go out to dinner? A month of going promoting the movie as soon as it's coming out. You're flying to whatever country, landing, doing press conferences, doing a junket, going to the premiere, and then you go on to the next country. And that was one of the most wonderful things about that movie was I got to see the world. I got to meet all these fans that were fans of such an iconic franchise and to be part of that. And it was really a very humbling and wonderful time that I'll never forget. You seem like you have a really special relationship with your dad. I do.

Yeah, like I've seen your show, your first show. Thank you. I read your book. And it seems like he's very important to you. And that's so sweet to hear that he like went with you. Yeah. It's really cute. Thank you.

Have you guys always been like that? Mm-hmm. I've always been close to my dad. Yeah, and you still are. I am. He seems really special and sweet. Thank you. He is adorable. We're very close. He's such a good dad and a great grandpa. Even, you know, he always, you know, I was telling my older daughters who are 19 and 20 when they think I'm being overprotective. I'm like, you never stop worrying as a parent. My dad's never going to stop worrying about me either, even though I'm a grown-ass woman. It's just the way it is when you're a parent. So we're very close and will always be close.

after you finished the Bond movie, how did you decide what the next move was? Because I can imagine it's like you went to the moon. How do you know what to do next? It's hard. It's the thing too with when you are, the thing that I say with, you go from people not knowing who you are. And when people say, oh, things happen overnight, you can work your butt off in the business of doing jobs and people don't. see them and this and that. It takes one job that changes your career, but that's also the job, sometimes the changes where, oh, people will recognize you at the grocery store or at the airport

and stuff like that. So that's the thing I think is overnight where it goes from no and knowing who you are to all of a sudden people recognizing you. And I think that's something that is a little intimidating too and different. But I think, you know, having a team in place and, you know, it's not easy figuring out what should I do next or whatever movie or TV show. It's just part of it. I cannot remember what I did right after. Taylor, we have to pull it up. I didn't know if it was drafted gorgeous was before or after.

I think I'm going to guess it was after. I think it was after too. After having, after doing all this, why decide to go on housewives? I'm always curious. That's way later. No, no, it's way later. We got a lot more to go. No, no, we could, but I've just, that's a way later.

But I'm just wondering, like, because you had, were you doing the movies and then, like, why would I do a reality show? I'm just wondering like the thought process. You know, I had a friend at the time that was on the show, and she, her experience was really, she had such a positive experience. And also, you know, over the years, the business has changed.

It used to be when I started out acting, if you did movies, you didn't do television. And it's like one or the other. Yeah. And it's so wonderful that then over the years that that changed, that you can do movies, you can do television, you can do reality, you could do all that. So the business has changed a lot too. And because of my friend that was on, the Housewives, had such a great experience.

And I had been approached for reality shows and that too. I thought, you know, why not? This could be fun and something different. You also were sort of a pioneer with reality television. television because of your show. The first one. Like, I feel like you kind of did it before the Kardashians. The Kardashians had already filmed a couple, I think a couple seasons, one or two seasons before I did. And it was Ryan C. C. Cress who did Kardashians too. Okay. Who did our show. At the time, for that, though, I will say, I went through so much with my divorce from Charlie that it affected

my career. I had a hard time actually getting a job because people perceived me as someone that was trying to take down Charlie Sheen, who was on this big show, and it was the network and studio, and it was a different time. No, but that was wild. The way things were. Like, even like not participate, obviously we're not actively participating, but he was all over the place during that time. Yeah, and it was hard. So I also had two daughters. I didn't have Eloise at the time, and I, you know, I had to work. So what did you do? I did my reality show.

And then you just... And then it changed. Then I was able to get back to working as an actress again because I just had to be myself on that show because there was so much written in the tablets about me that was so negative. And I wasn't one that if you say stuff, then it creates another story. So sometimes it's better to just be quiet and let that story go away. But there were so many stories that was really difficult when I was going through my divorce. You know, so I did make the decision.

Ryan C. Crest approached me to do a reality show. And I was nervous about it. I was hesitant because I thought, oh my gosh, to put my life out there even more than what it is. And my mom, before she passed, she's the one that actually encouraged me to do it. She's like, you just need to do it. and just be yourself. And I'm glad that I did. And it actually helped the perception of whatever people thought about me. And of course, there's always the people that still have negative feelings or think something bad about me, whatever. But at least I got to be myself without trying to defend

myself in a tabloid. I just got to be myself on a TV show. I think it humanized you. And I think in that moment, they were constantly villainizing the woman. If you look back on all the divorces at that time. It always was the woman's fault. Like they just went to the woman. Do you think that's because like Hollywood rallies was rallying around him to protect the franchise that he was working on? Absolutely. And so it was like we got to not let this guy go down. It was like the golden boy that they were protecting, which doesn't really fly anymore, I feel like. Well, and then years after that, unfortunately, you know, with Charlie going through the downfall that he did have on the show, people saw what was really happening.

I couldn't say that though at that time. It wasn't my place to. Yeah, no, it was a different time. And it was, of course, I understood that they were protecting, you know, this was before even like all the, this was right before all the streaming stuff was starting. This was like network television, which was a conservative show network. So, yeah, of course they wanted to protect them.

I got it. I understood. Even though I didn't love it, it was not easy. How did you first meet him? Did you guys get set up by someone or did you naturally mean? We met on a job. On a job? Yeah. Was it a movie?

It was a movie called Good Advice. We met on that. And then a year, I think over a year later, I did a few episodes of Spin City. He took over for Michael J. Fox. I remember that. And so I did an arc on that show. And that's when he and I really started to get to know each other. Did you like?

him right away or no? When I met him the first time? Yeah. Yeah, I had a boyfriend the first time I met him. I was always a fan of his work and I liked him. I wasn't romantic. You just liked him as a friend. Yeah, I liked him as a human being and like as an actor and I admired his work and all of that.

So that's how that's, it wasn't like, oh, love at first sight. It wasn't that. It was more about being, you know, very respectful. and admiring him as an actor. Well, I think one thing that's been so cool for me to watch is that the whole time everything's gone on in the media, you're always so complimentary of him and supportive. Even though you always seem like you're supporting your girl's father.

It's an undertone. And in your book, when you wrote about him, you, you, it sounds like you guys have really nice memories when you first met, how we whined and dined you in the beginning. And it seemed like he was very charismatic. It seems like he was a great side. I wouldn't have married him. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, things went a little sideways. But you're a mom. Yeah. So I always wanted to be respectful and support him as their dad. You know, no matter what. what's going on behind the scenes, I did my best to try to keep it as private as possible, and there was many times it wasn't. But at the end of the day, I always wanted my girls to have the best relationship that they could with their dad,

because I have such an amazing relationship with my dad. And I wanted Charlie to always be the best version of himself to be the best dad that he can, and I'll always support that. So I never wanted to shit on anything. You've done a good job of that. Well, thank you. I'm sure it has not been easy. And it's not like one of those things

where you can call a friend and ask for advice because what you're going through is so unique. Well, people forget how, maybe now they forget how big Charlie Sheen was back in the day.

I mean, like, he was... There was a lot of tabloids and publicity and paparazzi around all the time and trying to navigate all that. And believe me, I, you know, I can't even think of one

like when you say, regrets. I don't have regrets. Did I maybe at times say something I shouldn't have or do this? Of course. I don't know specifically, but I know, you know, when you go through a divorce as it is, it's so hard. But then to go through something so public is awful. Not that you want anyone to pity on you. It's not that at all. It's just like trying to navigate everything. I mean, like there was that period of time when you guys were going through that where you were in and he was in a story pretty much every day. Like it was just like for like months. A couple years.

Yeah. I remember it was a long time. You just like it was endless. This is the tool I wish I had to help me manage my supplement routine years ago. Inter supco. This has solved a problem with their trust score quality rating system that helps users understand which brands they can trust. So many of you guys have asked me and Michael, you know, which vitamins should I take? And I think it's definitely something that you have to go on a journey with. You have to do research and you have to look into it. That's why I love to have founders on our podcast to talk all about the efficacy and the traceability of supplements. But this app is just going to help you. What I like about it is supplements should improve your health. It shouldn't confuse you. And I think that a lot of people just don't feel confident in their protocol. And this can really, really help you.

Subco is the first of its kind supplement companion app with a simple mission. Make supplements work for you. Here's all you have to do. Stack up your supplements. So add the products that you already take, answer a few questions, and then Subco will analyze your routine and give you actionable tips. Everything is designed to improve your routine. If you don't have your own stack yet, though, Subco has over 80 supplement plans to help

you reach your goal. So if you want to improve your energy, reduce brain fog, gut health, hormone support, they have at all. Subco is currently in beta and users can get 100% free access. All you need to do is go to sup.com slash skinny. Show listeners will also get early access to SUPco's founding membership when it launches in early 2025. Sub.com slash skinny. About a year ago, I launched a co-brand with array. So I did like depuffing drops and they were amazing. You put them in your water. And it was a total hit. I think it sold out really, really quickly. And it's just a testament to how much I love the brand array. With every launch that they have, I'm so excited about, but this one is like

my jam. I've been talking about creatine and loving creatine for the last two years. Avanka Trump and I talked about how we both take creatine on her episode. NRA launched not only a creatine five grams. They launched a gummy. It's called a Ray Tone. It's the first supplement that supports lean-sculpted muscles and enhances your workout performance with creatine. It's formulated for women, which is really unique. A lot of these creatines are formulated for men. I like this one, too, because it has ginger root in it for antioxidant protection.

They taste so good. They come in the cutest package. A ray thought of every single point. They thought of the packaging. They thought of the product. They thought of obviously the creatine. and then they also put this thing called slim biotics in it. So it really helps you optimize your body composition.

I've been taking this pregnant. Obviously, check with your own doctor if you're pregnant, but I've had a really great experience with it. You can take up to three to four a day. It's now available on their site. It's called Array tone. So go to array.com and use code skinny at checkout to receive 15% off and four free bloat travel packs with your first purchase or auto shipboarder.

That's array.com code skinny. Let's talk about Armour Colostrum. What if I were to tell you that there is something out there that can strengthen your immune system, fortify your gut health, ignite your metabolism, vitalize your hair growth and enhance your skin radiance? Well, it's out there and it's called Armour Colossum. Lorne and I have been taking Armour for years now ever since we had the founder of Armour on this podcast to talk about all of the benefits, which is a bioactive whole food that was not only physician developed, but physician founded. It's not a formula. It is not processed. It's pure, potent, natural, and clean. And it's readily available for any. anyone in the family. We give it to our children. We give it to our dogs. We take it ourselves. What I love about ARMA is you can just take a little simple scoop and add it to any beverage of your choice,

or you can actually just scoop it directly into your mouth. It tastes a bit like a milk dud. So what exactly is Armour Colossum? Armour Colossum revived cellular signaling, bolstering our health from within to defend against everyday threats. Colossum is nature's first whole food with over 400 bioactive nutrients that work at the cellular level to reactivate your body's innate capacity to regenerate and thrive in today's environment. Like I said, we've been taking it for years now. We absolutely love it. If you're curious from more detail, just search Arma Coloschum Skinny Confidential and listen to the

episode we did with their founder. Of course, we've worked out a special offer for our audience. We've received 15% off your first order. Go to tryarma.com slash skinny or enter Skinny to get 15% off your first order. That's T-R-M-R-M-R-A-com slash skinny. Receive 15% off your first order. Go to tryarma.com slash skinny or enter Skinny to get 15% off your first order. your first order. That's T-R-Y-A-R-M-R-A-com slash skinny.

When you became a mother in Hollywood, how did your life change when you had your two girls? So I'm just wondering how you maybe balanced it all. You're having a baby. I think your life changes when you become a parent, no matter whether you're in Hollywood or if you live where I grew up in Illinois. Right. I think becoming a parent, your life changes. And any working parent, you have to balance it. If you want to, if you do want to work, it's a balance. Or if you choose to be a stay-at-home mom, it's, I think, no matter what job we do as a parent, it's a, you have to, it's trying to juggle that. Sacrifice. I had never looked at it as sacrifice. I always looked at it as sometimes unorganized chaos or sometimes one thing gives and one thing's

balance. There was a period of quite a few years when you're in the thick of it with the younger ones where it's like something is like off balance. Maybe you're not able to have date night when you want to or maybe if you do then someone's watching the kids that night. So then it's like a constant, you know, trying to balance everything. And I just finally was able to let go with and say it's okay that everything's not balanced it's okay so you so you know yeah and my advice to parents is i think it's so important to have the couple remain a couple too yeah and my husband now he came into my life when the youngest she was four years old eliz and now she's 13 and that's her dad she's my youngest that I adopted. I always say, and my older girls were younger teenagers,

is we would do one night a week, a month, where we would do like a staycation somewhere so that we could have our alone time. Even if we were at our place and they went somewhere, or, you know, if some people can't afford to go to a hotel, I get that if you're able to even lock the room and say they went for the night and you sneak back in your room and they don't know do you know what i mean it's whatever it takes no even if you tell your kids we're we're leaving for the night and if people can't afford to like go to a hotel or somewhere and you sneak back in and the door is locked and they don't know you're in there just to have that couple time even if you're just watching tv and connecting or having romance whatever it is um i always am such a big advocate of

the couple be having the time to together, you know, because without this, that can fall to shit sometimes. And it does. I feel like if you don't stay connected, it's not good for the kids. It's not. It's good for the kids to know that mom and dad or mom and mom or dad and dad, we're here. And then, you know, you guys have to understand and respect that. We also have to have our time, too. Put the old sock on the door. Whatever it takes. I don't know what it's like having sex with me right now. like an old sow on her.

Yeah. It's not the most fun thing in the world. No, but first time around, I was like, I had to get used to it. Then the second time, and now third time, I'm going to, done it. Wait, okay, when you say you have to get used to it, you mean having sex with her while she's pregnant? I didn't know. The first time, I didn't want to hurt someone.

Because you don't want to hurt the baby. Yeah, I didn't know anything. I get it. Now I realize I can't. His stick is so big that it was touching the baby, poking the baby. It's going to poke the baby's so huge. I was like, all the baby's going to come out to form. Oh, my God.

And what happened the second time? No, I'm like, okay, second time, now I'm fine. You're fine. Yeah, I'm fine. What about? Third times a charm. Third times a charm. That's good.

I'm so happy for you that you feel confident now. Yeah. It's so nice to meet you, Denise. I'm glad you can learn. It's nice to meet you too. And I do think you guys should do like once a month do a little, just even one night or a day, whatever. I can't wait for you to see what you plan this month. I can't wait either.

It's Valentine's Day, by the way. Right now, our two kids are in the hotel. We're all in the hotel. We're five days in a hotel with two kids under four. Yeah, that's interesting. That is. But that is a lot. Like you said, it's unorganized chaos.

Exactly. Why and how did you decide to adopt Eloise? Tell us about that process. I always wanted more kids. Okay. And I always wanted to adopt too. And then, you know, after my divorce, I don't want to wait for another partner. for me to have another child. So I decided to go through the adoption process on my own. And I heard

it could be six months. I heard it could be three years. And I thought, well, if someone comes into my life during that time, then we'll do it together. And if not, I'm adopting on my own. And so what happened? How long? I adopt on my own, a year and a half. Year and a half. Yeah. And when, like, what is it like when you adopt a baby? I mean, for someone that has no idea. Do they call it? you and say, hey, like come pick her up? No. Well, it depends on the situation.

And like, does a stork drop the baby? No, the stork doesn't drop the baby off. It depends on the situation. I think in some situations they could call and say that there's a baby, you know, you have to go through a long process of, it's a process. In my situation, I was new Eloise was going to be born about five months prior to her birth. Oh, that's cool. So you had five months to plan. Yes.

Okay? Yeah. And so then you get her right when she's a brand new baby. Did you name her after Eloise at the plaza? No, I've always loved the name Eloise. Beautiful. But I asked Sam and Lola, they loved the name too because we had the book too. But I've always loved that name.

My daughter had an Eloise birthday party. She's obsessed with Eloise. And it was so fun. She had like the little hotel dingers on the table. a lot of wonderful things for, because actually Eloise's baby shower after she was born was Eloise themed. Oh, cute. There's so many wonderful things that you can have with the name Eloise. It's the most beautiful name. I love it. Thank you. And then Sophia Richie just named her baby Eloise, too. Oh, she did? She did. Oh. So after your first reality show ends, what is the gap between

that and Real Housewives? What were you working on between? Oh, quite a few. few years. I did different movies, TV shows. I was on a lot of different things. And then Housewives came 2018. I did my first season. And they wanted you for a long time, I feel like. Your name was always on the, I always feel like Andy Cohen was wanting you. So this time, with this, I was friends with Lisa Rina. Yeah. And I asked her, I said, I think I'm ready. And so I met with them. You gotta be ready. And it was great. We had a great first season. And how many seasons were you on? I was on two seasons. And then I've done a few episodes after I've been off the show. Because I'm still friends with a lot of the women on the show. What is the process like? Is it as grueling as it seems? Or are they editing it up?

I was like, and this is why people make fun of me. I was a dear, and headlights. I mean, my first trip was to the Bahamas, which was my second day of filming, I believe, on the housewives, second or third day, I'm leaving for the Bahamas with these women that I didn't know. And I was really nervous. And I told my husband, I said, I think I need to look at this like I'm going on location. You know, I only know Lisa Rina. I met a couple of the other women, but I didn't know the women enough to like go on a, hey, let's all go on a trip together. So, It was intimidating for me. And I went there and I, going to the Bahamas, I don't know about you, but I don't bring fancy clothes to a tropical area.

You want to relax. I want to relax. So I apparently brought the wrong wardrobe being a housewife. And they certainly let me know that. I was the ragamuffin on the show. Who called you that again? Kyle. And I'm sure the others did, but maybe they didn't air their comments about it.

I'm sure they've called me much worse. No, I am a housewives watcher. I watch all the shows and seasons. I wish I knew you because I would have sent you a PowerPoint presentation of what everyone... How to win? Not like win. It's not a win. I think it's just how to come in.

I don't want to do that, though. That's what I was just going to say. What I liked as a viewer about you is I found it endearing. Warren watches all these shows, different kinds of shows. She thinks she can either win them. No, it's not, I just, I just, this is my vice. I like to watch Housewives. She's, she fully thinks she could win the Bachelorette.

I could win the Bachelorette. I mean, the Bachelor. She thinks there's like the strategy. There is a strategy to that. No, no, the producers, they're going to do their thing. I might outproduce the producer. I think a lot of people think that. I found it in.

Have you gone on traitors? Maybe you should go on that. I've never gone on anything. No, she just, she just goes, she like yells at the TV and has, and she's, I would teach to them how to do. I don't yell. I just give notes. I found it endearing that you were like this amazing actress that's so beautiful that does have access to all the clothes and the makeup and the hair and you came on as yourself.

So the housewives that were saying like, what are you wearing? Like you already have had all that. Do you know what I mean? You've already been there, done that. Well, when I met with the producers before I did the show, I'll never forget I was wearing jeans and a Guns and Roses T-shirt. casual. And I said, this is how I am at home. You guys have seen me on the red carpet at events, this, this, and this.

I said, I could, I'll do that. But if you want, or do you want me to be myself at home? And they said, we want you to be you. So at home, I'm not wearing glam at home. Some people are on the show. Some people are. Well, or are they? I don't know.

We don't know. But I just like, I'm not where. Sometimes I wish I would wear glam to the grocery store because when there's paparazzi, I'm like, well, shit, why'd they take that fucking picture? I know, but it's so uncomfortable. I know, but it's always like, I'm like, how come they don't see me when I'm coming home from like this? Well, hopefully they catch you on the way out. Yeah, and maybe I'll go to the grocery store and see.

Go to the grocery store. And that's the other thing. Who calls paparazzi? Oh, my gosh. I mean, they're everywhere. You don't need to fucking call. I'm sorry. Are you kidding?

It's been done. It's been done before many times. No, we have. Go for it. Go for it. Okay, thank you. But I'm just like, it's like they always catch me when I look my worst. But I, but that was the thing when I did Housewives.

I wanted to be myself. I didn't, for better or worse. You know, it was, that's how I went into it. I liked that, though. Well, thank you for saying that. And I actually think the viewers like it too. The viewers can spot when something feels off. Yeah, inauthentic. They can see. And then the producers take that and make a mockery of it, kind of. Like, you can see when someone's not being themselves. So I like that about you. I think sometimes, though, it's the other women sometimes take it and say things and try to instigate a little tiff or whatever. They're looking for a breadcrumb. I, you know, I think some viewers liked that I would, but I think some viewers were like, oh, we wanted her to come on all glam, glam, or

or whatever, I just felt to be glam when I would be glam in real life, like a red carpet or an event or something. I think you can't win. You know what I mean? If you came on like- That's why I wanted to be myself. Because at least I could say, well, I was myself. If I did try to self-produce or do something or dress a certain way just to, you know, appease an audience,

then that's where I think for me, it wouldn't be good for me to do that. And I feel like in housewise, like everyone starts out. like that and then they evolve into their glam. Well, my second season, I did do more glam and some of the women did shit on me about that. And I told them, I'm like, well, look, I saw myself on TV and I'm like, maybe I should like spruce up a little bit. I don't want to look like shit the entire season. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Going to the Metball. Well, with Erica Jane, like, always. And Doreet, I'm like, I don't want to look, always look like a, Ragga fuck a muffin. So I'll like spruce up a little bit and they give me shit for that too. Unbelievable. Whatever. When you go into all these trips with the women, is that a lot of stress? You're away from your house. There's alcohol. They're all drinking. They're fighting. It's like, it seems like a lot. Okay. How many kids do you have? I have two. You have a third. Yeah. Coming. Yeah. Sometimes work is like a little vacation.

That work? I'm saying sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. Okay. It's like, you're, you know, when the kids are going to be calling you, you're like, mommy's the way, I'm a little too far, go call dad. Go call a friend. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. There's sometimes, like, all of us, it's not, I don't mean to sound bad with this. It's any mom or dad will say, like, it's sometimes kind of nice.

I'll tell you, the trips, listen, I only did two seasons where I had the two trips. It's a nice thing to have a group of women be able to go a little. way, you go to a beautiful place, you get to have these wonderful dinners, even if you're fighting about, God knows what, at some table at some fucking dinner, it's still, it's something you'll never forget. And these are memories, too, that I will never forget. Yeah. It really, truly, even if some of them were crazy and hard for me, some of them were great. I have had a lot of laughter and all the other women, too. There's something nice and nostalgic about that that brings you back like when you were younger and you got to go on a girl's trip before you're married and you have

kids and you have a you know doing this and other jobs it's nice to be able to have that time too it's a little relief it's nice why did you decide to leave there was a couple reasons i had a terrible second season and we were in the height of the pandemic terrible in what way like you're just fighting with people michael does michael i know the in the in the women try to insinuate well more than insinuate that I had, so I got married my first season on the show actually to my husband. We've been married for six and a half years now. And my second season, they tried to insinuate that I cheated on him and had an affair, which was really, really shitty. Like me.

And did you know that they were going to do this? No. No. I was totally blindsided. It was actually cruel. Okay. And it was. And also it was with a cast member who.

was on the show before that wasn't even, I met her only a couple times, whatever. So it was a combination of, and my friend of 20 years was coming at me, who I was so shocked at how different she was on camera and off camera. And I just felt, I felt very vulnerable that during the pandemic, how are we going to move forward filming and how, and then what more, what would they do next? You know, my husband... They're already trying to destroy your marriage. Yeah, and I was like, well, shit,

they're not trying to get past this. Like, the reunion, they, a lot of the women weren't trying to resolve anything. So I thought, well, I'm not going to have any friends on this show anyway, except for Garcell and Sutton.

So I really felt like I wanted to be, how am I going to go on a show where everyone hates me, except for, you know, two, and what more would they try to do to my marriage is so important, my family. So that was the reason why.

And the pandemic, it was just such a weird time too, where I just, it was an extra added being vulnerable. So it was a combination. And the reunion was on sky. Yeah, we did it. Yeah, we were all like on a Zoom for the reunion. Because it was the pandemic. Why do you think they turned on you?

I think that they need, you know, sometimes I think they feel they have to go after one, person, which I think does a disservice, quite frankly, with the show and with the women, it's like if you have something to say, okay, get past it, move on, and then fight about something else. I actually think it kind of gets boring when they just focus on one thing to fight about, but I don't know. It was like, I was that target that year. And now looking back, I get it, how some of the women, not all the women are like that, but just how. Do you watch any of the other franchises or shows you watch the current show? I've only seen.

a few episodes of this season of Beverly Hills, I still have to catch up on that. But I do see a lot of the other cities of the other housewives. I love the franchise. That's why I actually went and did it. It's a great franchise. I do think, though, when they go so hard on someone, there's stuff going on in their life that they're deflected. Well, look at what's...

Yeah. I think that when you have something going on that you don't want anyone to. to look at, you project them. I agree with you. And I think that if you look back in the history of what has happened since she left the show, that's exactly what was going on. I think though when they have something in their life that's going on, they don't want the light on them, so they're like looking for anything they can look for. And I will say your marriage to Aaron seemed really sweet throughout the whole show. It seems like you guys have a really good relationship. We do. How do you guys stay so solid in all this craziness?

are. That's the thing. You guys seem like a sweet couple. Thank you. I mean, we're, we're, we love each other so much. He's my best friend and we're really close and connected. And even during all of that, people will ask me like, what did he think about? He didn't even question anything, you know, so we're just really connected. We just have a very strong relationship in marriage. Yeah, you seem solid, but you guys also seem like you have a child like. to you, which is fun. You keep it flirting and fun. My dad always says a good relationship is like remain childlike. We are just very, we have a sense of humor about stuff and, you know, even we go

through ups and downs too, like everyone. And during the down, we like we try to have a sense of humor and we get through stuff and, you know, we love being with each other. We're really, were very close. So why did you decide, hey, we're going to go back on reality television and we're just going to let it rip? I think because well, it was

a conversation too because of my daughters, making sure we wanted, this wasn't just like should we do this and it was the next day we were filming. It was a process of us really talking to the girls, making sure everyone was on board, who is, who wouldn't do it, and

figuring out then what the show would be, who who would be if the girls weren't going to be involved like how what would the show be and if they are going to be and how involved they would want to be and it was just a family decision where we were like yeah let's do this let's have fun and and the girls wanted to do it they wanted to do it they're ready they were ready oh my god now we'll see once it airs if they're ready i'm just joking no it's a lot like and this is something that i've also talked to them about is to be prepared you can't prepare for certain things, you know, but I just try to also prepare them, which I have for a long time with social media and stuff like that, but when this isn't them being on a show of, oh, I'm showing

up a couple scenes on housewives. They are very much a main part of the show. So that was also something at their age I went back and forth with, quite frankly. I was like, you know. How old are they? If they're 19 and 20. Okay, so they're adults. And then Eloise is 13. But It's more Sammy and Lola being 19 and 20. This age is where I worry about the comments or people's opinion and stuff like that. One of my most asked questions is what prenatal am I taking? Well, it's the same prenatal that I have taken for all three of my pregnancies. And that is ritual.

I trust ritual because it's traceable. I can see where the ingredients came from. I also think they thought of everything. They have vitamin A, C, D3, zinc, which helps support normal immune function. And then they have omega-3 D-H-A, which is really important if you're doing prenatal. And this helps support fatty acid content of breast milk. And then they have biotin, which is awesome for your hair. And it also supports lactation. And every single capsule is designed to have a delayed release. So it makes it gentle on an empty stomach. It doesn't taste bad. There's like a citrus essence in the tab so you can enjoy taking your multivitamins. This is the prenatal multivitamin. You cannot go

wrong. You don't have to worry. What I like about this one is it takes the worry out of it. Like, I don't have to go Google 100 other vitamins. I know that this one is non-GMO. I know it's gluten and major allergen-free. And most importantly, to me, it's made traceable. The one that I take is essential for women prenatal. And I just feel like it's the best to the best. So on that note, let me give you guys a code. When it comes to pregnancy and postpartum support, you want products backed by research and transparency. Mom founded ritual puts in the work and shows you the proof. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com slash skinny. That's ritual.com slash skinny for 25% off your first month. I love a good body oil. And there's this one by Oseo.

and it's an algae body oil. It's their best-selling oil. It leaves your skin so silky soft. You will be glowing. It literally is the scent of summer. This is so popular, you guys, that one is sold every 30 seconds. I've been using the brand Osea for probably like three years. I have always been a fan of their mist. I love their face oil, but their body oil is the hit. It's like an iconic signature, natural citrus scent that features uplifting notes of mango, mandarin grapefruit lime and even. in cypress. I think you guys will love this. I put it all over my stomach, my legs, and how I like to use it is all dry brush, and then I'll get in a freezing cold shower, and then I'll use the skinny confidential body sculptor with the oil after I get out. So basically my jam, I literally can do it in five minutes, is dry brush, cold shower, get out, put oil all over my body, like I'm telling you, their algae body oil, can't go wrong. And then use the body sculptor to break up the cellulite on the back of my legs and I am good to go. It's rich. It's never like very greasy and it's clinically proven to improve skin elasticity. It's going to like firm your skin. I notice it just like my

skin looks more toned. Get healthy glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan face and body care from Osea. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code skinny at Oceaamalaboo.com. You'll get free samples with every order and free shipping on orders over $60. Head to O-S-E-A-Malibu.com and use code skinny. You hit 10% off. There is plenty of talk about ingredients that in our food that are harmful for us, cleaning supplies, things that we should just not have in our environment that are disrupting our hormones, our health, and our way of life.

But we don't talk nearly enough about our cookware and the things that we're actually cooking and preparing our food with. This is why Lauren and I could not be bigger fans of Caraway products. We have been using nothing but Carraway as cookware in our house for years now. We also had the founder of Carraway on this podcast to talk all about what they're doing to change cookware and update it so that it's healthy and not putting harmful chemicals into our systems. They're also aesthetically pleasing. They have all sorts of different skews and different colors to curate a design in whatever

household you're trying to curate. And they all work. What I love about these products is they work. I can't stand getting cookware or cooking supplies that don't work. Having eggs and a bunch of stuff stick to the pans, not being able to cook the meat. right way. These heat up so nicely and they actually get the job done. Not only do we use their cookware, but we also use their glass airtight storage. What's great about their non-toxic airtight containers is that they're non-corrosion resistant, temperature resistant, dishwasher safe, and built to last.

No BPA's involved. Many of us cook and meal prep and then we store our food in these plastic containers that are again leaking all sorts of harmful chemicals into our food that we ingest into our bodies. With Caraway, you don't have to worry about that. Of course we have an incredible offer for our listeners and viewers. Spring into action with a healthy swap to Karaway. Our favorite cookware set will save you $150 versus buying the items individually. Plus, if you visit careawayhome.com slash the skinny 10, you can take an additional 10% off your next purchase. This deal is exclusive for our listeners and viewers. So visit caraway home.com slash the skinny 10 or use code the skinny 10 at checkout. Caraway non-toxic cookware made modern.

Did you know that most toll of paper has formaldehyde and chlorine in it? it also has dyes. I was shocked to know. I found out this probably a year ago that there's all of these crazy things in toilet paper. We're wiping our most intimate areas with this all day long. My daughter is using the toilet paper. My husband's using it. I went on this like wild goose chase to find the best tole paper on the market. And while I found some brands that were great, I also wanted to create something better. And so that's what we've done at the skinny confidential. We have created a better choice. I was involved in every single detail of this toilet paper. We took out formaldehyde. We took out chlorine. We took out the dyes. We took out all the things that I didn't want my family exposed to.

And then, of course, in our very skinny confidential way, we wrapped it in pink, as you can see. I wanted the experience of the delivery when you got it to be very romantic and pretty. Never are you. excited about getting your monthly delivery of toilet paper. And I wanted to make you excited. So it comes in the most luxurious box. You open it. It's packaged cute. And it also has our little stamp on it. And you can put this on all of the rules in your house and know that it's a better choice for you and your family. I am so passionate about this launch. We have been working on this launch for a long time. My team is so excited about it. It's shaking up the market. it's disruptive and it's everything that we want to bring to the table.

So if you're looking for a better choice when it comes to your toll of paper, go to shop, skinnyconfidential.com. Grab it now. We will sell out, but we're doing subscription. So I would definitely say to subscribe so you can make sure that you get it monthly. That's shop skinny confidential.com. From your perspective, because you're one of the rare people that would have had both experiences, what's the difference between fame from doing movies and fame from reality TV? Is it similar?

Is it different? Well, with reality people, I think it's the same now because with reality people think they really know you. Because they see your home. They see intimate parts of your life. But at the same time with anything with movies, now with social media, because we give a glimpse of our life with that, it's people still think they know you. So I think fame in itself. when people know who you are is that.

Like, does it feel like you had more attention from housewives or more attention when you were doing the Bond stuff? Because I feel, I just imagine it might be different. Because back, with Bond, there was physical magazines that were tabloids everywhere. It's been worldwide.

And, yeah, but Housewives is also worldwide. So back when I did Bond, the... it was just a little different with magazines and being on covers and tablets. And now here we are where it's like instant with social media. Things go viral in a second. There could be stories out about you where they don't have, there is no, oh, we want to comment. They don't care. They'll just print it because they, you know, it's so fast the way things are.

So it's just a little different. But it's the same as far as not where people will recognize who you are. And that's the thing, you know, my daughters grew up in the spotlight of being the daughters of two parents. Now they're on a show where it's, they're going to, where it's them as themselves. Does that make, do you know what I mean? And so that's the thing that I was, I try to talk to them about. I think though it's cool that they're able to get on a show like this and then they can kind of have, control of where they want to take it.

Yeah. Like you could really, when you have a reality platform, you can really do anything you want. As we've seen, Bethany Frankel launched her Margarita Line. People have launched books. They've launched, there's, it gives you a platform to do a lot of different things.

So I think, I mean, I think it's probably going to be amazing for them to kickstart whatever career they want. I agree. Yeah. Yeah.

What have you cautioned them against? Or like, what have you told them to look out for? Oh my God. She probably needs another hour to tell you that. Probably. help you with like I mean by the time your kids are my girls age can you imagine all they're 12 we're gonna just yeah we're gonna go move out to the middle can you imagine like social media like I didn't

didn't exist when my girls were born but you know it's so different it goes back you know what they're just gonna want to be off their phone I actually think that your generation because you didn't because you guys just one day social media was just here maybe had a more challenging time than our generation will with teaching kids. Because I'll tell you why. Like, we'll go and speak at schools sometimes. And I always tell the kids when I'm speaking, like, you have to decide if you're a consumer or if this is a tool.

And if you're just mindlessly consuming, then that's not good. Like, you've got to use this as a tool. But the reason we know that is like it's been businesses in our life. Right. But my parents, for example, they would have no idea what to do to tell me anything about it. So a lot of times you're just like a lot of parents. it's not their fault, but they, you know, gave access to certain things early because they didn't understand it. And it's not their fault. But they didn't have the context of like how to frame out how to

use these things. Even if you are able to as a parent to stop your kid going on social media, my kids were able to. I don't think you can stop them. You can't. When they were younger. Sure. When it's, you know, I tried to stop that, you know, or educate them. So I think, But if you're talking about when people are in the public, my generation, we grew up with being in the public when all my peers that are in the public eye, it was tabloids. And then it moved to that. Whether it's tabloids or that, your private life is out there. So that's the thing that is trying to navigate that when your kids are in the spotlight. I mean, like, I don't even like to go on TikTok.

I just have, I post and I get off. I can't imagine a little girl's brain going on there. Like, I'm like, how does like a 10-year-old go on TikTok? I guess what I'm saying is in a similar lane, like, I imagine because you guys were so public and you were in the tabloids, you're able to equip your daughters with what it will be like if that starts to happen. We try to. Or like if a parent has no experience with social media or they have no experience

being the tablets, and then the kid goes into it. It's like you don't have the tools to teach them anything. You know what I mean? Like because of the career that you've had, you're probably able to talk to your children in a different way than someone who hasn't had that experience.

But they pretty much don't listen. Yeah, Michael, I can't. Let's pull this clip when Zaza comes to you and says, Dad, I want to go on social media. No, I can't wait. They think they know what they're talking about. I'm going to get on your algorithm every single night

and there's like puppies and cats. I'm in a whisper in her phone like, like, like flowers and butterflies, train or phone to like just show like good things on the feet. Listen, it's it's the wild, wild west out there. These are rapid fire questions. Okay. One word to describe your life right now. How would you describe your life right now in one word?

Okay, you can use more than one word. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. It's organized chaos always. That's how I always look at it. That's how I would describe mine too. What's one lesson that you've learned the hard way? One lesson.

Here's the thing that my mom always said to me was, especially because what I started going through my divorce, is this two shall pass. So that is a lesson that I will never, ever forget, that my mom taught me and I will always remember it, and hopefully my daughters will too. What's a wellness or beauty routine that's changed your life? I mean, I've always made fresh juices.

Since I was early 20s, late teenager, I've always worked out, drinking two liters water a day. So I've just always been, like, healthy. What's the Denise Richards workout? What's your workout of choice? So I do Pilates, but I did special forces. And I, right before I did it, I hired this amazing trainer, his name's Josh, at this place called Proactive. out in Westlake and they train a lot of the athletes and it is the most incredible like I don't like going to gyms I love going there why it's a gym it's they have a chef and they also

have a great recovery program where they have infrared saunas they have a treadmill that has water for your joints they have an altitude room to run on the treadmill it's just like uh it's like a well I spent a few hours there a day right before I did special forces. It's like a wellness retreat. It's an amazing, incredible place where, so for the first time in quite a few years, I incorporated weights because I was always just Pilates. So I do that now, too. I love it.

We're big fans of weights for women here. What's your most surreal, holy shit moment of your entire career? Well, I think that doing Bond. I mean, I met Prince Charles during that, well, he's King Charles. now. I think... Was he nice? He was. Very. I bet his eyeballs popped out of his head. Would you stop?

Yeah, I bet they did. What was he going to say? He's like, no. My eyeballs fell out, meeting him. No, it was, I think that was a moment just seeing, being, realizing, okay, I'm part of this incredible iconic franchise where many generations watch. So I think that's it. what you've worked with some of the biggest Hollywood names who surprised you the most in a good or bad way i don't i mean could be like who's like your favorite my favorite i've there's too many to even who's like someone that we like you love like loved working with cool off and onset how was pierce

he's great okay he's here's a class act he's wonderful i think so too Kevin bacon the best ever so cool and he's still married I know and his wife is so lovely. His wife was on... He's still married too. He's still married. He was a great bond too. He was a great bond. He was a great bond. He's really cool. Pierce and Kevin Bacon.

They're awesome. Okay. Last question. If you could sit across, and this question was asked by our audience. A lot of people asked this. If you could sit across from your younger self and say one thing to her, what would it be? Maybe you could also give advice that you'd give your daughters. up it's going to be a crazy ride, girl. But hang in there. Tell us about your show that's launching March 4th. What can we expect?

You got your own show on Bravo. Tell us all the things about it. The show is called Denise Richards and her Wild Things, and it premieres on Bravo and then Peacock. Me, my kids, my husband, lots of familiar faces, friends. And it is just the crazy dynamic of our family. blended family. We've got my ex-husband's other ex-wife.

She's in it. It's just we're a blended crazy family. Brooks in it. Brooks in it. And you and Brooke are like friends, huh? Yeah, I've always tried to we've had our ups and downs and we do address that and the show too. But, you know, we try to keep

things good and great and positive for the kids. We've had our time up and down, but we're really great for a while. That's cool. Yeah, so it's good. Charlie makes an appearance. He's great. And it's just, you know, our family. Charlie makes an appearance on the show too. And Erica Jane was in the trailer. Yes. So that's going to be a big moment. Yeah. Erica, Camille, Tori, my ex. Well, I have two

axes in there, Charlie and Patrick Muldoon. So it's just, the one thing I will say is that I love that the girls do too is they, everyone's themselves. We are ourselves. This isn't. It's us. Yeah, it's us. For better or worse, it's us. What else are you working on anything we can support? It looks like you're also involved in a charity. Is there anything else that you want to pimp out? Anything else I want to pimp out.

I want to promote our show, and I hope everyone watches it starting March 4th. Also, I'm just saying your book is really good. If you guys are looking for a good biography, it's a good book. Taylor, get my wild things post her out so she can sign before she leaves. Taylor's, Taylor's getting his out. And Taylor also is the Bond poster and the stars just too. Denise. Thank you, Denise.

Where can you just tip your Instagram out really quick? Just Denise Richards. Denise Richards. It's the one with the blue check. Thank you for. Yeah, you look that up. There's probably a lot. Thank you for coming on the show.

Thank you for having me.