The Bossticks - Dr. Gerry Curatola On The Oral Microbiome, Ozempic Teeth, Jaw Clenching, & What Your Dentist Isn't Telling You

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

#939: Join us as we sit down with Dr. Gerry Curatola – internationally acclaimed biologic dentist, bestselling author, pioneering researcher, & humanitarian with more than 40 years of clinical experience. In this episode, Dr. Gerry breaks down why your oral microbiome is the gateway to total-body health, exposes the truth about fluoride, unpacks the hidden dental risks of Ozempic & GLP-1s, reveals what jaw clenching says about your stress levels, & explains the powerful connection between your mouth, the vagus nerve, & your nervous system.   To watch our last episode with Dr. Gerry Curatola visit https://youtu.be/N98YCKp8nWQ?si=ytVIO3f2n9-LykHs   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Dr. Gerry Cuatola click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   To Shop Revitin go to https://tidd.ly/4tiPLZq and use code SKINNY for 15% off.    To book a virtual consultation go to http://rejuv-health.com and use code SKINNY for 20% for a limited time.    This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential The beauty tool that started it all, redesigned to evolve with you. Shop Ice Roller at https://bit.ly/IceRollerSilver today.   This episode is sponsored by Minnow Shop minnow's new apré-ski capsule collection at http://shopminnow.com and enter code MEETMINNOW15 at checkout to receive 15% off your first order.    This episode is sponsored by American Beverage Association Visit http://www.goodtoknowfacts.org/ for more information.   This episode is sponsored by Ollie Treat your Palentine with Ollie! Go to http://ollie.com/skinny and use code skinny to get 60% off your first box!   This episode is sponsored by Puori Use code SKINNY at http://puori.com/SKINNY to get 32% off Puori Grass-fed Whey Protein when you start a subscription.   This episode is sponsored by Experian Get started in the Experian App now!   This episode is sponsored by WOO More Play Visit https://woomoreplay.com to learn more about WOO More Play and get 20% off site wide. Produced by Dear Media

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Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. Today we have our friend, Dr. Jerry Caratola, for the second time on this podcast the first time he was on it absolutely crushed it and it blew people's minds. Dr. Jerry Kuratola is an internationally acclaimed biologic dentist, researcher and author of the mouth body connection, known as a pioneer of oral microbiome science and prebiotic dentistry with over 40 years of practice, founder of rejuvenation dentistry and pioneer of the oral microbiome science behind Revitin, prebiotic toothpaste.

He's a longtime NYU faculty member and friend. He's the dentist that Lauren and I see, the one that we take our kids to, and quickly has become a friend and trusted advisor when it comes to taking care of our mouths. In this episode, we're diving into all the ways that we should be taking care of our mouth, things that we should look for, how the mouth is one of the first lines of defense when it comes to our overall health and so much more. This episode's for anyone that's interested in health, wellness, and understanding the mouth and body connection a little bit better. We also talk about what many dentists aren't actually telling you and misconceptions around the oral microbiome. With that, Dr. Jerry, welcome

back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. You know how everyone in the world is like, I got the guy? You know how I got the guy? We actually got the guy. And the guy is in the studio. We have our biological dentist who is the what of dentistry? The father of bio.

The father. Yeah, cue the godfather music of dentistry, biological dentistry. 43 years. Explain in layman's terms to someone who's listening. What's the difference between a. regular dentist and a biological dentist? Well, you know, biologic dentistry is a philosophy of practice. It's not a specialty. It is really an approach that looks at root causes, that looks at toxicity and inflammation, and it looks at a lot of my background in biologic dentistry is rooted in

biologic medicine. And it was really Switzerland and Germany that was very, you know, this going back 30 years, there was a man by the name of Thomas Rao. And he had opened a clinic in Switzerland called Paracelsis. And I had this nurse who was a patient in mine. And she actually went to the program at Harvard Medical School with me in complementary and alternative medicine. There was a program for a short while up at Harvard Medical School. It's actually unfortunate. It was only run for about two or three years.

And then they Harvard Medical School closed it. But it was really opening the opening doctors. I was open to all health care practitioners, which was really interesting because my first day there, there was a medical doctor there. And he goes, hey, I'm Bob, you know, so and so. And I said, hey, Bob, I'm Jerry Curitola. And he goes, hey, Jerry, what are you doing? And I said, I'm a dentist.

And he goes, what are you doing here? I actually said, what are you doing here? I said, well, this is open to all health care practitioners. But you know, Bob, the mouth is not divorced from the rest of the body. Like, this is connected to this. and this is how kind of absurd health care has been with this division between medicine and dentistry. So I come out of that program and I immediately, you know, and what's interesting is we really looked at how the body regulates and heals and the effects of toxicity and inflammation. And when I started to really understand

that a lot of what we do in dentistry is not creating coherence, which is a big word, or alignment with the rest of the body, like mercury fillings, like root canals, you know, a hot topic. Yeah, and this is your second time on the show, guys. We dove deep into the root canal issue with Dr. J.

went crazy viral when we did that with you. So if you haven't heard that episode, go out or watch it, go check it out. But yeah, keep going. Yeah. And, you know, and then this understanding that, you know, a lot of the materials we use in dentistry that we think are mechanically good for restoring the tooth are actually, like even some of the resins we use. Most popular resin in restorative

dentistry is something called BIS GMA resin. Well, BIS, the BS part, is BSphenol A, BPA. So you have, and then there's this huge issue with microplastics. So you're putting these microplastics in the mouth at 98.6 degrees in a body temperature. And if you grind your teeth and, you know, clench and all this, you're going to swallow these particles. And then there are dentists. Oh, well, my patients, I've been practicing 30 years. My patients are still alive.

And I'm like, yeah, but just because you don't see the symptoms yet, it doesn't mean that there isn't a bio burden or bioaccumulation. It's like mercury fillings, right? And I call the mercury fillings, and I don't call them amalgam anymore, because us, they're not silver fillings. They're 52% mercury. So if you call it a silver filling, it's really a fraudulent misrepresentation, in my opinion. And so these mercury fillings off gas. And the, we know this now for a fact. We know this. It's been tested. I went on the Dr. Oz show and they actually took a mercury vapor ionizer in this contained thing. And Dr. Oz gets up and says,

you know, he's holding a thermometer. And he goes, if I drop this thermometer, you know, we'll have to evacuate the studio. And, you know, it was the mercury would spill. And yet, you know, dentists are working with this stuff, you know, since the Civil War and they're putting the stuff, still putting the stuff in teeth. Why? Because it's cheap. It's easy to put in. I mean, a monkey can put an amalgam filling in with a thumb, you know, you know, you can basically put it in and dentists used to put it in with their thumb. When I was first in practice, you know, I would actually see, had a couple of patients and I was like, what are these grooves on the top of the pillow? Oh, it's a thumbprint because they didn't even wear gloves and they would put it in. Now, you know, our bodies can get

mercury out, right? We have the ability, most of us, 86% of us have an ability to chelate heavy metals and get these out of the body. But there's another 14% that don't, that have a genetic variation. It's called the APOE4 gene and they can't get it out. And these are people that get all counts of neurological problems from from a neurotoxin which mercury is the most neurotoxic element on earth so so so like if a hundred people get at 86 them could be i'm fine but the other 14 have no ability to get it out and they are the ones that become symptomatic it bioaccumulates and you know actually bioaccumulates anyway and we get some of it out and then eventually you know if you got like 10 fillings you know or you know 12 surfaces of this stuff you will end up you know having

subtle effect, like people who have gut problems. That's the symptom of mercury toxicity, brain fog, irritability, all of that stuff. Actually, the symptoms of mercury toxicity and the symptoms of Alzheimer's disease are identical. Wow. So, you know, and we see that so many people, you know, and actually, what do they say, it takes 20 years for the symptoms of Alzheimer's to kind of start to show after exposure to neurotoxins and things like that. So we see a lot of things in dentistry that just really are, you know, dentistry needs to pivot. You know, there is this really illogical and, and really harmful, I think, lack of connection between medicine and dentistry. Between, you know, what you would say medical doctors and dentists, you know, it happened a century

you go. And your mouth is the center, literally the center of coherence for the whole body. This concept of coherence, which I learned in Switzerland and Germany with Dr. Thomas Rao, who I was starting to talk about, said this guy, I had a nurse who did the Harvard program. Her name was Barbara. And she came to me and said, oh, Jerry, there's a change in my met. I became her patient. She became my patient. She basically cured my daughter. Of course, chronic sinusitis just by altering her nutrition and her diet. Got her off dairy and gluten. This is before, you know, that was even known. We're talking about the late 1990s. She came to me, and then all of a sudden she tells me there's a change in my medical history. I was just diagnosed

of breast cancer. And I was like, my first knee-jerk response was, oh, are you going to Sloan Kettering, which is the, you know, the big cancers, you know, anybody who has cancer. And she's like, hell no, you know, that's a meat grinder. I'm going to the Paracelsus Clinic. And she's like, you know, it was founded by this Dr. Thomas Rowan. Then she said to me, you know, you need to meet him because he is the first medical doctor that I've ever met where if you have anything wrong, the first thing he says is open your mouth. Do you have amalgams? You have rucanus. You have, you know, microblastics. Do you have holes where your wisdom teeth were removed? A lot of people get their wisdom teeth extracted. There's an extraction socket. And we used to think, oh, you know, the gums grow over, you know, the bone fills in

and everything is groovy. And now we know that that doesn't happen a lot because the way bone regenerates and heals is it needs a scaffold, you know, the cells that make new bone and all that. So you end up with what's called a hole in the jaw, which is referred to as a cavitation. And you hear it talked about a lot these days. Why? Because now we have diagnostic tools to be to be able to see them. Do you believe people should get their wisdom teeth taken out? That depends on whether they are malpositioned or not. I think, and the answer to your question is I think a lot of wisdom teeth get extracted, almost like a right of passage, you know, you're 16, get your wisdom teeth out. They're going to be a problem later on. And that's not necessarily true. So I think there's a lot of

a lot of unnecessary third molar extractions, wisdom teeth extractions. There's a lot of unnecessary root canals being done. Like, oh, you got a toothache? Oh, it's a root canal. And it's like, you know, like a root canal is no big deal. And it is a big deal. You're literally devitalizing a tooth and then I'm doing taxidermy on a tooth. That's essentially what root canal is. And, you know, a lot of my root canal specialist colleagues and adonis, they're always telling me, oh, Jerry, you know, you're an alarmist and I'm like, no, no, no, and I'm like, no, I'm not.

I'm just looking at the fact that a devitalized tooth does go through changes. And there are 100% of endodonically treated teeth in one PubMed study, 100% of endodically treated teeth produce endotoxins. And endotoxins are bacteria and bacterial byproducts that are inflammatory and dysregulate your immune system. So if you can avoid a root canal, you want to avoid it. Now, do root canals get people out of pain? Do root canals keep the tooth in your head? for a period of time where it's not going to be creating havoc, absolutely. But we really need to look at the long-term implications because anything dead in the human body will necros. It decomposes

over time, even if it's filled, even if there's no fever, no pain and no swelling. So instead of a root canal, would you, if you could make your decision, would you just say pull the tooth and not mess with that or would you say it's situational? I think it's a viable option. If you're want to like be proactive about long-term you know issues I think proactively you know the cost of a root canal and the cost of a dental implant are equivalent and a ceramic dental implant can give many many years of service now metal implants are also controversial now because all of the studies and the research that's emerging is and that metal implants can also produce endotoxins and they also don't generate healthy bone.

They actually create sclerotic bone. It's almost like scar tissue bone versus ceramic implants, which have been shown to have vascular bone or bone with a blood supply. I want to go back to what you were about the woman who had breast cancer. Do you think that root canals and these implants that are metal are contributing to cancer? Well, I think that most of those two procedures, root canals and metal implants and the production of endotoxins. When you talk about cancer, we're really looking at the fact that cancer is multifactorial.

You know, it's not like, oh, you know, Susie got breast cancer, Tommy got prostate cancer, that I don't know. And there's a cascade of events where the train goes off the tracks and inflammation, chronic inflammation, creates really is known to, you know, you flip, you can flip a switch, a genetic switch, and you end up with what's called tumor genesis or the growth of tumors. And then what we're finding right now, and a lot of the research is moving in the direction of, there's this onslaught of parasitic activity and that every cancer has a parasite attached to it. So you have people now, you know, using things like ivermectin and antiparcytic drugs in their

treatment protocols to actually reverse cancer is not this, you know, scary thing anymore. We're understanding that cancer is just the end stage of dysregulation. So to your point, Kenan infected root canal, and I had a patient come into me before COVID actually a while back, and she was a new patient. She had come, you know, for an aesthetic. I know she was interested in getting veneers. And so she came in and they, we, we go through a, we go through a comprehensive protocol when a patient comes in. We will do a 3D cone beam automatically just to scan for, you know, because those little tiny x-rays, which are 2D are almost irrelevant in some cases. That's what you did for me and Michael when we came in. So a cone beam shows a ton of things.

If anybody hasn't had a cone beam, they should definitely, I read them routinely with virtual consoles. I mean, people all over the world do virtual consults with me to read their cone beam. And I really do help kind of direct and help them understand of what maybe their dentist hasn't shown them their whole, only because he doesn't either have that technology or he's not trained in reading that. And a lot of general dentists don't even bother. So you had a patient that came in that wanted an aesthetic and you did a combing. This was a, This was incredible. She came in for an aesthetic consult.

And on one side, when I went, the cone beam was up, you know, we have these big monitors, which you guys have seen. There was a big monitor up in my conference room. And on the monitor, they happened to put our cone beam up. And on one side, on the upper right, on the molar, the first molar, which by the way is on a, you know, there are meridians. Like that's how acupuncture works. But the first molar is like Grant Central.

station of energy flow in the body. It's on the breast meridian. It's on the thyroid meridian. It's on the stomach meridian. And on the upper right, it's on the pancreas and on the upper left. It's on the spleen. That's a lot of energetic channels from your brainstem through every tooth to every organ system in the body. And so what we saw, what I saw when I walked into the room was, she had an infected root canal that was so infected that it was there was infection in her science. literally filling half of her sinus. And on the other side, she had a big black halo around the end of the Reucanail,

which is sometimes indicative of a cyst. So my first answer to her was, I said, you know, I said, hey, I'm just looking at your combing. Do you have any problems with your breasts? I hadn't looked at her medical history. I don't look at anything. I said, do you have any breast problems? And she gave me this during the headlights look.

And she said, I just had a double mastectomy at Slung Kettering Hospital. Why is that a meat grinder? Well, I'm saying that a lot of times, you know, the response to cancer in the orthodox medical world is surgical, it's like chemo radiation surgery, you know, it's like chemo radiation surgery, chemo radiation surgery, double mastectomy, double mastectomy,

and, you know, not this concept that can we reverse cancer? Can we cure cancer? Can we stop the progress of cancer? And I firmly believe at this stage in my life after 43 years and looking at conventional medicine, alternative medicine, functional medicine, biological medicine, yes, we can get the body. And that's the thing that I learned in Switzerland, I learned that our body has this life force. And it is, in Ayurveda, they call it prana. And in Chinese medicine, they call it chi.

and in the Western world, you know, we call it the spirit, you know, but in biologic medicine, we call it the biologic field. It is this life force. And it gives us the capacity to regulate and heal. And that's called coherence. That's that alignment. Why does it make people so uncomfortable when you say that we can cure cancer without the things that they do in the hospital? Well, I know. I'm not saying that, I mean, curing cancer can also, Bob, and I'm not saying, oh, you don't need, you know, conventional medicine, you know, doesn't have a place. And, you know, you should only, you know, go, you know, walk on coals or, you know, get crystals. What I'm saying is, is that when we understand the root causes, when we understand that

you can avoid the things. Chronic inflammation. And that's why I'm here today with you guys to say dentistry, in my opinion, biologic dentistry is at the forefront of your ability. to regulate and heal. Let me ask you this. What is the response from other dentists? Are they fans of your work? Do they dislike what you're doing?

It's disruptive. Wait, hold on, because I want to, as I wonder. I'm like, I got, now I really enjoy, you know, kind of, I love to educate the other dentist. And I love, you know, unfortunately, you get this herd mentality sometimes. Like, fluoride is good. Floraid prevents cavities, fluoride. You know, putting fluoride in the water, putting fluoride in the water has done absolutely nothing. And they even, even the, you know, there was something called the Cochrane Report, the CDC, the World Health Organization.

Actually, I was on a debate with someone from the American Dental Association. It was saying that, you know, water fluoridation was the greatest thing in the 20th century, you know, and I'm like, you know, have you looked at the science? Have you looked at the facts? Western Europe, most 80 and 90% of Western Europe never fluoridated. and the decay rates from 1970 to 2010 went down exactly the same as the United States, Australian, New Zealand, who fluoridated and threw this crap in the water, which is crap. It is industrial waste product. And so, you know, and everybody finally we're waking up because dumping it in the water is not only

ineffectual, but it's harmful. There's more than 60 studies linking, drinking fluoridivocal. water and lower IQ in children. Because it's not, it's not even clean flora. It has arsenic and low. Lowing, lowering my IQ, daddy. He gave me fluoride toothpaste and all of us, right? I know. And you know, the thing is like we think, first of all, we know that fluoride works, if it works at all, it works topically because it does promote and it actually fluorine, which is, you know, if you want to look at, I'm not to bring you back to high school chemistry, but if you want to look at F minus, it is the most fluorine, which fluoride was kind of made up from the word,

fluorine is the element on the periodic table. Fluorine is the most highly charged, highly negatively charged element on the periodic table that's not radioactive, next to radioactive. So it's the most highly charged, non-radiactive element on the periodic table, which means that when you introduce it in the body, it blows out other negatively charged. So our teeth and bones are made of hydroxyapatite. not the synthetic mineral they made, you know, that's made, you know, they're putting in toothpaste to spackle, tubules of teeth.

The reason I asked if other, and you still have to answer if they like that, I got to get to that. But the reason I ask is, you know, after meeting you years ago and going to you as our dentist and seeing you, you know, if I have to go to another dentist for another reason for teeth clean or whatever, and I tell them at the end, like, don't give me any fluoride or, like, it's a, I have to like fight them on it. You know what I mean? And they don't like, they don't like that.

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couple of years, just saying. Yeah, no, I was just asked by one of the New York City councilmen because he brought a bill up in New York to like, because you know what it does? It really drink, what they're putting in the water is a waste product. It's fluorescic acid. They have to wear hazmat suits to dump it in the water. Do you realize that? And it is, and it does nothing to reduce decay.

Decay rates went down the same, whether you dump this crap in the water or not. But you have very, very powerful lobbying group. It's, what is it, a bi-product? An industrial by-product. You know, no, it's a waste product. It is a phosphate fertilizer industry. You know, can you say Monsanto? So aluminum manufacturing, can you say Alcoa, and uranium enrichment, which is DOD, you know, and that's, and it's a, you know, and they used to, they tried to put it in the ground.

People don't realize that the whole campaign to put fluoride in the water was the result of EPA lawsuits against Alcoa in the 1930s. And then they found that, whoa, when you introduced this in the, you know, when you introduce fluoride, to teeth, it's so highly negatively charged it, it blows out the hydroxy element, the OH-Minaus, and it makes floor appetite. What is floor appetite? Definitely more acid-resistant. So they were like, oh, it's more acid-resistant. Yeah, it's more acid-resistant, but it reduces the tensile strength.

It makes teeth more brittle, teeth and bones. So we had an explosion of hip fracture rates in the 1980s. and we had, you know, osteoporosis studies linking with us. Fatal bone cancer and children, osteosarcoma and male children, between the ages of seven, six and eleven. That was Harvard School of Public Health, 2006. What else? Thyroid disruption.

What else? Calcifying your pineal gland. Oh, oh, that's just a little thing, you know, between your eyes there. It's often referred to as the third eye. Well, your pineal gland, what does that control? Melatonin production. Well, what does that do? sleep. Why is sleep important? Hell, that's how we regenerate. You know, so this is the insanity

of this policy that it's time. You know, it's time for people to wake up and it's time for dentists to really kind of like snap out of it and say, wait a minute, wait a minute, you don't get cavities from a lack of fluoride. You get cavities from an imbalance in the oral microbiome, which is why I spent my whole life. You got that toothpaste upside down, by the way. Yeah, don't do it upside down. Tell us about the veneers. of all, there are a lot of different porcelain. Okay, so what's the difference between a biologic aesthetic dentist, a biologic cosmetic dentist and a conventional cosmetic dentist. Eventually cosmetic dentist may have good hands, may do aesthetics and all that. In our office, we're going to

look at you much more holistically. We're going to see a lot of times people that need veneers have had bonding and fillings and all this other stuff. And a lot of that material really needs to be cleaned out. And it needs to be removed. By the way, we remove microplastics the way we would remove any other toxic material. We don't just drill it out where it goes all over and you're swallowing and all this stuff. We're going to use a porcelain that has, we're not going to use any aluminums or any metals because, believe it or not, there's aluminum disilicate is a real restorative material. So we are going to use non-bPA composite resins or BPA-free. resins, we're going to use porcelains that do not have any aluminum in them or any other material

that, you know, they actually were putting lead in porcelain to make it reflect more. Why, as you're talking, why would all dentists not do this is a cost thing, more expensive material? I think it's an awareness and a consciousness. I think you're focused on, and listen, aesthetic dentistry is one of, you know, I love doing aesthetic dentistry. I mean, I was an art minor when I was in college. I was a neuroscience major and an art.

So when I came out, I gravitated to cosmetic dentistry. And I was in the beginning of it. You know, the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry didn't even exist. And I was doing, you know, I was doing veneers in 1983. Wow. Even the biggest guys in New York, the biggest, you know, restorative cosmetic guys, they didn't even, they weren't even, there was only one laboratory that I worked with. And it was in Kansas City, Missouri that it was good, the chameleon dental laboratory.

I'll never forget, in 1983 that was doing, veneers. Then a company called Denmet in California got into doing veneers. But remember, you know, it's great to do aesthetics. And I came up with the name Rejuvenation Dentistry because I wanted to put the wellness doc together with the beauty doc. And I said, you know, really rejuvenation is not just looking younger, but it's, you know, living healthier and living longer. So it's really important to look biologically, not just mechanically, at how we restore teeth. What is Ozempic teeth? It's a real thing. Really? It's a real thing. Because, well, you know, these GLP drugs are amazing. You know, they can do some really, I mean, they really restores and levels

out blood sugar because diabetes is, to me, the biggest issue, the most, one of the most inflammatory issues and it's very connected to gum disease. So gum disease increases your chance of getting type 2 diabetes, right? And then type 2 diabetes makes inflammation in the mouth and bleeding gums, you know, terrible. And so you have this two-way street where blood sugar really is a major, major problem. It's connected to, they're calling Alzheimer's, you know, type 3 diabetes. So really we have this problem with blood sugar. So the gLP, you know, these peptides, have really done, I think, a really amazing thing in helping people lose weight, get their blood sugar back to normal, help their cardiovascular system, you know, reverse their diabetes and all this stuff.

But what they do is they slow gastric emptying and they slow the flow of bile. Now, you need bile for vitamins, vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin K. By the way, vitamin D and K are in Revitin. But when they reduce vitamin D, for example, and they also make you your mouth dryer. So your mouth gets drier, your teeth start to get more brittle. And a lot of that is lower vitamin D. You need vitamin D and K for your teeth and bones. It's really important.

So, you know, they're calling those Zepic teeth. And there are Dennis out there, oh, you got them Zempic teeth, you know, because they're seeing higher decay rates, gum recession, and all that. And all of that is controllable, but you need to be aware of it. So what do people do if they're on ozempic and they don't want ozempic teeth? One, they need to make sure that they're hydrating much more than they used to. Okay. Number two, they need to increase their intake of protein.

Number three, they need to watch your vitamin D levels. You know, that's why, you know, I created revitinin, by the way, you know, was 15 to 20 years of research. And I realized that we've got to get out of symptom-driven health care. oral care. We got to get out of symptom-driven oral care and really look at at root causes. And a lot of one of the things that drove me into developing Revitin was a surer study from Japan from the 1970s that showed that gums, you know, disease gums, peridontal disease, they found this one, these group of researchers found that gums were deficient in vitamin C and CO-10. Those were the two

big, biggest nutrient. Co-Q-10, you know, I know you're taking it, Michael. Well, that's what I was asking. Before we started the show, guys, I was out, there's co-cutin in the Revitin, and I take Koku-10 as a supplement, but not, I didn't, I wasn't doing it because of my teeth. I just heard it was good for. Well, you actually take in your toothpaste. But I've been taking my toothpaste, too.

If I wasn't alive, you would be using Colgate for your toothpaste for the last 10 years, but thanks to me, you've been using Reviton. Yeah. I didn't even realize you were using Revitin before we even knew each other. I was using your toothpaste before I met you. but it was the old packaging. I'm so old me. My son,

my son Grant has done an amazing job. In the beginning, it was only the centress. He said to me, he said, Dad, you have the best toothpaste. All my friends love it. You have the best toothpaste,

but it's packaged like Swiss hemorrhoid cream. And I was like, it was like white, you know, and it had the blue. And I thought it was like, you know, prominent. And he's like, yeah, it just doesn't look like what you get.

And this, you could tell. This is something you could eat. So why do you want? COQ10 for your teeth. COQ10 is the co-factor in the manufacturer of ATP. And in English, ATP is the energy in the tank. So the more the metabolic need, like your heart beating all the time, your skin, and your gums. So the more of the metabolic need, and those are the three highest metabolic needs, heart, gums, and skin, you need more COQ10.

And as you get older, your ability to make COQ10 goes down. So we found that co-Q10 and vitamin C, which we knew, you know, sailors on ships got scurvy, which was really gross, but scurvy is, you know, this really disease gums. And they found that they were deficient in co-Q10 on the ships. But actually, recently I learned that Portuguese sailors, because of what they line their water tanks or whatever with, they were actually getting vitamin C from it. And so they didn't have any scurvy. So vitamin C, I mean, if I could take any scurvy, I mean, if I could take end,

vitamin, if I could only keep one vitamin, I had to get rid of every vitamin in my medicine cabinet, the one vitamin I would keep is vitamin C. What's the brand that you like to take? The vitamin C? Yeah. I actually have a liposomal vitamin C that I use. There's a couple good ones, but liposomal is a suspended form. We have higher absorption. Will you take the liposoma vitamin C from symbiotica? Symbiotica is a good one. I heard that it's hard to get the vitamin C from a non-liposomal delivery system. It's true. And I actually make my own.

I have an optimal nutrition. Are you holding out on me or whatever? Why are most clean toothpaste still wrecking our mouth? Because a lot of them are still symptom. So they are free of dyes. When we say clean, right? We're taking out the artificial flavor, which, by the way, the artificial flavors are horrendous. You know, they're still using saccharine and aspirateam in the commercial toothpaste.

And actually, the sugar alcohols are another pet peeve of mine, Eritratol and xylitol, which are, you know, everybody's like, oh, you know, we use pretty birch bark for ours. And, you know, the reality is, they all go through an industrialized process, and it's a high-value chemical. And it's very disturbing to the microbiome. So it's really about the whole approach with Revitin versus other clean toothpaste is we're focused on promoting or making peace with your microbes in your mouth because my research

has shown, and recently I have a big paper being published on something called SMDC, Cialo Microbial Dental Complex. And that's a very fancy word for saliva, microbes, teeth, how they work together. Your saliva is loaded with ionic minerals like phosphorus and calcium. Your microbial flora in your mouth, your oral microbiome actually transports minerals from saliva for your teeth to remineralize constantly. And that's when the oral microbiome is in balance. When your microbiome is out of balance, you actually demineralize and then you get cavities. So it's really the root cause of decay is not you didn't have fluoride.

It's not, you don't, you didn't use nano hydroxyapitite, which has got a whole host of other issues. You know, your teeth are not like porcelain tiles that need spackle. Your teeth are living, breathing organs that have a circulatory system, a lymphatic system, a neurologic system, a skeletal system. They actually, there is fluid exchange in the dental tubules. And there's amazing things that go on. with your teeth, they're living vital mini organs, so to speak. And so clean toothpaste is taking out dyes and minerals and all that, but it's not restoring balance to this essential ecology that keeps us alive. That makes total sense what you're saying. So the probiotic, the prebiotic,

the vitamins are restorative. Correct. Tell us the truth about mouthwash. Let's break everyone's heart. I went viral on this, you know. I went into a supermarket and pulled a thing and it says, kills 99.9% of germs in the mouth. And I said, you know, if we were really able to do that, we would unleash ecological Armageddon. Okay. Because guess what? Those microbes in your mouth, they're producing nitric oxide. Okay. And nitric oxide is important for everything. from good sex to good heart to your nervous system to your immune system signaling to all of that. Nitric oxide is one of the most essential compounds. And guess what?

Your oral microbiome and nasal breathing, which by the way was why I love your mouth tape the most. You heard it here first. The best dentist in the world, the father of biodendistry loves the mouth tape. I do. Okay. Why? Because, well, it's comfortable. Okay.

And it actually, you know, because a lot of them peel off. Yep. And a lot of them are not comfortable. And it does start to train you to do nasal breathing. The only thing I would say is make sure you don't have a deviated septum. Make sure that you can breathe through your nose because there are people that can't breathe through their nose. They need an ENT. Okay.

But a lot of people breathe through their mouth. Just, you know, it's just a habit. Which is really bad for you. And it's really bad for you. It increases your risk of periodontal disease, tooth decay, all these. kinds of things, but most importantly, when you nasal breathe, you are making nitric oxide. Here we have, again, nitric oxide. Let's talk about a reverse issue that, you know, a lot of people are mouth breathing.

I think I fall in the camp of clenching my jaw, and I know you said stress lives in the jaw. For me, it's like I have a, like, I can tell sometimes I wake up and I'm like, man, I must have been clenching last night. And I wear the mouth guard, right, so that I, like, to guard the teeth, but do you agree with stress living in the jaw? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. it's one of the first places it manifests. And, and, you know, I always, you know, I've always looked for the signs of that because it's, it's very dysregulating to your vagal nerve regulation. So you have a vagal nerve that goes from your brain stem literally to your colon. So like from the brain to the drain, you have this vagal nerve. And actually my new book, which is the coherence cure with Dr. Curitola. It's beyond the mouth body.

connection. So the mouth body connection was the first book. And now I've been working on this whole concept of coherence because I think your mouth, the bridge of coherence, the most important center of coherence is your mouth. And if you're clenching, you have dysregulation or your vagal nerve. You have all kinds of inflammatory signals that are being given. And it's, it, and those inflammatory signals affect mental, you know, and physical. When you were saying the vagus nerve, like, you know, one of the things that I have to work going to be mindful is my HRV score. Yes.

And I have to do things. Like, Lauren, what's that the shift wave you just got? That could, like, I, and I got this. I don't know how you haven't tried that yet. It's a polar neuro thing, but it helps the because I need it for the vagus nerve. And I imagine it's connected to my jaw clenching. The agal energy flow, you know, so the vagus nerve is not just biologic, right? It's a real big nerve that goes, you know, from the, from the brainstem to two-thirds of your colon.

And, and, and the, what we have found in research, is that the bridge of coherence for vagal regulation is the mouth and the heart. It's like right from what they call the energy center called the throat chakra to the heart chakra. So energetically, throat chakra to heart chakra, that's the bridge of coherence for alignment and regulation. Quick break to talk about puree, grass-fed weight protein. Here's the thing. Most people don't realize that over two-thirds of protein powders tested by consumer reports have led above California's Prop 65 limits some 10 times over. In another study, 47% of top U.S. protein

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give you a smoother, tighter-looking skin. So what I like to do is I like to combine facial massage with cold therapy. And this really helps give you a really nice foundation before you even apply your skin care. This ice roller for me is a full circle moment. I think that a lot of you bought the ice roller, you know, five, six years ago when we launched it. And now I am launching something that feels more in alignment with where you're at. It's so beautiful. You you guys, like it's just softer and more effortless in every way. And I really put my own touches on every single little step from the packaging to the colors to how it feels to even the roller. It's all been elevated just for you. So the ritual, the Lauren ritual is you do cold therapy

to help fight inflammation. You roll it. You glide it across your face. I put it on my jawline, my neck, I roll it down. Your skin is just going to appear. smoother and tighter before you go in for the kill with the skin care and the makeup. Don't skip the cold therapy. The new ice roller is an upgrade designed to meet the standards of today. And I hope you guys love it as much as I do. This is the beauty tool that started it all. Redesigned to evolve with you. I'm showing it on YouTube too if you're on YouTube if you're seeing me visually. Get it why it's hot at shop skinny confidential.com. That's shop skinny confidential.com. So what do you do with patients that clenched their jaw and they want to stop. A lot of things. So first of all, we want to get to

recourse because if you have an airway issue, so the first thing I would do, somebody's clenching is do you have an airway issue? Because what happens is people start to clench at night and they clench at night because when the brain, when you have an apnaic episode, your blood oxygen levels go down. The brain goes crazy and you clenched or nor, you know, so we find a lot. you fix the airway, the clenching and the grinding actually goes away. Well, you saw my issue. I got my nose smash, but you saw my X-ray, so I got to get that fixed. I got to come back to- Exactly.

But that could be an issue with me. Right. So airway could be an issue for you, Michael. The other thing is I would look at ways that you can re-regulate. And so, you know, we look at, this is an interesting, this is very, very important. And I'm actually expounding on this in the book, too. But actually, we regulate and heal on five different. levels, microbially, and we know about dysbiosis and what all that does, energetically,

right, energy flow. And so we look at meridian flow and things like that. We regulate on a biochemical level, and that's hormone regulation and all that. We regulate psycho-emotionally. Some people, you know, they got stuck psycho-emotionally, they get stinking thinking. They live in a state of fear and anxiety, and that's, unfortunately, the environment we're in right now. now really, you know, it makes us incoherent, you know, and doesn't restore coherence. You just turn on the news. And, you know, we have, we have incoherence in our, you know, in our climate incoherence in our, you know, economy, politics, anywhere you want to look. There's a lack of coherence.

The shift wave chair you should get for your office. It's absolutely life-changing. It vibrates and, like, you wear a little thing on your finger. And it measures. It's really amazing. sound to you too, so it might be similar to what? What are the scary truths about x-rays? Well, x-rays are cumulative, okay? So, you know, that we know. And what's interesting is I have a good friend who's major nutritional product manufacturer, and he's working on products that eliminate ionizing radiation from the body.

Fortunately, a lot of new x-rays are digital. But I, and there's, see, there are tools that can be used in dentistry to minimize, patient exposure to dental x-rays because again the first thing I said was it's cumulative so if you know every time you go to the dentist like every six months you go to the dentist or some people go three months it's like every six months you need x-rays you need x-rays you need x-rays you need x-rays it's like you know what wait a minute you know there's ways what are you taking the x-rays for well we want to measure bone levels we want to check for decay between the teeth and to approximately well we have transillumination for that and we have other methods of measuring

periodontal pockets and bone levels and things like that, where it's not necessary every six months. And, you know, especially on kids. You know, I find it really, you know, we can use other ways of other diagnostic tools that we have in the box right now, other than using, you know, standard dental x-rays every time a patient goes to the day.

It always scares me when they're like, there's no problem. And then they, they're like, right. I know. It's like, what? They run out of the room. They run out of the room. Gen Z has the biggest problem with oral inflammation.

Why? I don't know. You tell me. First of all. That's a real stat. Oh, yeah. They're grinding their teeth because they're on their phone too much. They are cyborgs.

What's that mean? What's a cybor? Meaning they are half machine and half. I have a social media guy. You know, they're all in their 20s. They're really good. They're in their 20s. You know, early 20s.

And, you know, he said to me, I'm a cybor. I was like, you know, Michael, you have to get off the phone. on. You know, Michael, I'm going to take the phone away just for a little bit, you know, because he's, you know, we would, we would be shooting content. And the Gen Zers, they are so connected, and they're so impatient with someone like me. Like, here I am. I'm a baby boomer. Okay. So I'm literally a dinosaur. And like literally, and they, and I would hold the phone and go, I'll find it. And he's like, Dr. Jerry, can I take, can I take that? Because he was like, he would, and then he would literally take the phone and I think he would just look at it and like it would come up you

know what I was looking so why do they have the most the biggest problem with oral inflammation there are so their their nervous system is so overstimulated and and they are so I mean if you get EMFs and all that other crap the reality is is that they are very tech all of that is very inflammatory besides the fact that it's diet what's interesting is I find that diet and nutrition, of course, are a cornerstone, you know, of oral health, right? Alkalizing anti-inflammatory antioxidant rich. That's what I always talk about with diets. And I don't get into, oh, you know, keto and pescatarian, you know, pescatarian and all

this other stuff. It's like alcoholizing anti-inflammatory antioxidant rich, you know. The second thing is exercise. So exercise, what does exercise do? Exercise improves immune system competence, circulatory function. You know, you're moving lymph. You are actually producing short-chain fatty acids. Short-chain fatty acids are very anti-inflammatory, so it helps to reduce inflammation.

And you need that. So exercise is important. Third thing, stress management. You really want to control stress. And I find that Gen Zers, they're super, super stressed. They're way... Well, imagine that every time you turn something, on is just telling you how bad everything is.

Right. It's interesting when I talk to people because we and I think similar, there was always bad news in the world, but you didn't grow up constantly being bombarded with how terrible things were. You grew up with a lot of hope and inspiration. But it's the person who's using it

responsibility to take autonomy over it. Yeah, but the problem is, Lauren, and not turn it on. You have to have boundaries around it. Yeah, but I'm empathetic to this because the world's going to keep moving. Boundaries, yes, I totally agree with that. I think that a lot of them are going to have some very serious health problems. Yeah.

Because of this inability to manage what is a stress that they're not even aware of. Well, because think about this. When we grew up, there was like, you know, 30 channels that you would watch. And the majority of, like, there were some of the news, some bad things. But the majority in what's good, like, happy programming, good movies, good stories. You know, like, even like, even if action movies were crazy. But the problem is now the main channel is the phone. and these companies have learned that fear sells

and anxiety keeps you hooked. And so the majority of programming that you're turning on the news that you're watching on social is bad, scary, negative news all the time. And so yeah, you can be intentional but like we grew up understanding that there were those kind of options.

If you grew up in a time which like only shit all the time, it's hard to escape that. I have empathy. I have empathy. I just... No, I do too. And the problem is that it's not necessarily true. It's just that's the stuff

that people realize they can showcase to you to get your attention. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think a lot of them, and you know, I have, you know, they work with me and, you know, and they work, you know, in my practice and all. And they're, and they're wonderful. In many ways, I find that they really have an extraordinary, some extraordinary gifts. And then there's, there's a lot of things that are very concerning for me, not just for their oral health, but for their systemic health and wellness. And their mental health and wellness. Wow, we covered a lot. Everyone should go get your toothpaste. I've been using your toothpaste forever. My kids use it.

My dad uses it. My stepmom uses it. My whole family's on it. I personally like it because of the prebiotics in it. I like it because of the vitamins. I put it on my gums. I was healing the other day and I put it on my gums. It's amazing.

I personally like the citrus flavor. That is my favorite. That's my ride or die. I like the mint, though, because it makes me feel like I'm doing it. Like maybe something nostalgia makes me feel like I'm getting the job done. Yeah. You know, what's interesting is that everyone was addicted to men in oral care.

And everybody doesn't understand. Like the reason why there were these really strong peppermint oils thrown into toothpaste is it covered up everything that was bitter in the soap, right? Because what was toothpaste? Teethpace was developed by soap makers 100 years ago. And 150 years ago. And so basically, you know, you had soap for your clothes, soap for your hands, soap for your hair, soap for your skin. And then you needed soap for your mouth. So it was really detergent and origin.

And then it was all about putting chemicals in, bug killers and all that. So really what I wanted to do is take it and turn it into a nutritional product. And what I didn't realize when I first was developing this, and it was one of my mentors, Dr. Stephen Moss, who was, he's an MD, DDS, Ph.D. And he had a company called Health Education Enterprises. and he would be given money by the majors to kind of do research that would say why something worked. Like if Colgate was coming out, they wanted to study how to kill plaque because that's what their objective was. They thought it was a good thing, right? You put pesticide and toothpaste.

The triclosan was a non-biodegradable pesticide. The principal ingredient in the leading toothpaste for 20 years was triclosan. I had too much of that in my body. Yeah. I had to do like a detox. Yeah, I mean, triclosan is a nasty, non-biodegradable chemical, but why did they put it in there? Well, they found it maybe if we use a little bit, you know, it'll kill plaque. Little did they know that they were, you know, you need healthy plaque keeps you alive, you know. So he was, he said, you know, your product might save the world. And I laughed. And he said, no, I'm serious. He goes, because if these bastards, you know, continue to put this stuff, you know, what we know, you know, his research showed that you don't want to kill plaque. You really want to make your mouth, you want to restore health. You want to make peace with your microbes. And the problem with brushing your teeth is it's a daily habit that you're doing twice,

sometimes three times a day. So you have to examine these daily habits, I think, and see what you're putting in your mouth, right? Absolutely. You gave us Code Skinny for 15% off. You can go to Revitin.com. That's R-E-V-I-T-I-N.com. Use code skinny. Start with a citrus.

Just trust me. If you want to do a consultation with Dr. Jerry, tell us what you are offering the audience. Well, I do virtual consults. The easiest way to kind of be introduced, and we're going to give 20% off a virtual consult. Well, how do they book? They can go to, write to our website, Rejuve Health.

Okay. So, or they can follow me on Instagram. Yeah, follow me on Instagram, at Dr. Jerry Kuratola. In the link tree, there's a way you can. book a virtual consult. We are going to give a discount for Skinny Confidential. Skinny is the code. Okay. For the Revitin, skinny's the code for the consults. The consults, people love. They really

gives them a lot of information and it helps guide them. And if they choose to come visit us in our offices, we're more than happy to see them. Otherwise, we will help guide them to someone that could help them in their area. What I will say the problem with seeing you is that once you see you, you don't want to go anywhere else because it's, it's comprehensive. And also, it makes you think about some of the things that you're, and listen, not to diminish anyone, but when you start to see how comprehensive it is the things that you do and the way you do it, like even when you helped me with one of my veneers in the back and it was because it broke, and even with the ozone and cleaning it up and getting all organized, I was like,

wow, I'd never done that before. Yeah, you know, there are protocols that I've created over 40 years that, that, that have really been effective. And that, you know, and I always say, you know, good dentistry can be expensive, but not as expensive as bad dentistry. And I see people going through problems and issues and the same problem over and over. So I really, you know, would recommend a virtual consult or an in-person meeting. Next time I see you, we're going to fix my airway. Absolutely. Dr. Jerry, I will see you next time.

I'm in New York. And thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. That's great to see you. Thank you.