The Bossticks - Dr. Robert Kiltz On Hormone Balance, Managing Inflamation, & Gender Roles In Fertility
Episode Date: February 19, 2026#941: Join us as we sit down with Dr. Robert Kiltz – double board-certified OB/GYN & Reproductive Endocrinologist, founder of CNY Fertility, & the visionary behind Kiltz Health & the Kiltz Mighty Tr...ibe. From a challenging childhood to becoming a fertility & wellness expert, Dr. Kiltz shares how faith, mindset, & discipline shaped his path & transformed his approach to fertility. In this episode, Dr. Kiltz discusses the root-cause healing; including inflammation, gut health, & hormones. The truth about carnivore & keto diets, his thoughts on GLP-1's, & shares how both men & women play equal roles in fertility. To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To connect with Dr. Robert Kiltz click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode. Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at +1 (512) 537-7194. Visit http://istandwithmypack.org to support I Stand With My Pack's (ISWMP) mission by donating or adopting. Every contribution helps! This episode is sponsored by Squarespace Check out https://www.squarespace.com/skinny to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code skinny. This episode is sponsored by Paleovalley Head to http://paleovalley.com/skinny, or use code skinny at checkout for 20% off your first purchase. This episode is sponsored by Fatty15 Fatty15 is on a mission to optimize your C15 levels to help support your long-term health and wellness - especially as you age. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to http://fatty15.com/SKINNY and using code SKINNY at checkout. This episode is sponsored by Dose New customers can save 35% on your first month of subscription by going to http://dosedaily.co/SKINNY or entering SKINNY at checkout. This episode is sponsored by Bobbie If you want to feed with confidence too, head to http://hibobbie.com to find the formula trusted by parents and loved by their babies—700k and counting. This episode is sponsored by HERS If you want clearer insight into your health, go to http://ForHers.com and schedule your labs today. This episode is sponsored by Taylor Farms Learn more at http://TaylorFarms.com. Produced by Dear Media
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Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her Show.
Today we have Dr. Rob Kiltz on the show.
he's a double board certified OBGYN and reproductive endocrinologist and founder of CNY Fertility.
He's helped thousands build families through one of the most respected and accessible fertility clinics in the world.
And beyond the clinic, Dr. Kiltz is a speaker, author, and lifelong learner who believes healing is a full body, full life experience.
Some of the themes in this episode are on healing the mind, the body, motion, incremental changes we should be making today to help ourselves feel healthy and better.
And how to make 2026 your healthiest year yet through holistic approaches, mindset shifts, and break,
daily motion and cutting edge approaches to ancient nutritional wisdom. We had a great time interviewing
Dr. Kiltz on this episode, and we hope you'll enjoy it as well. With that, Dr. Robert Kiltz,
welcome to Skinny Confidential, him and her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her.
Before we get into all of these amazing topics, because there's a lot, we got gut health, we got
fertility, we got diet, we got your hot take on exercise, which is interesting. Tell us about
your early life. Your dad was in jail, it says, and you grew up with gangs in L.A.
Let's see. My elevator speech is I was born and raised in Los Angeles, L.A., kicked out of
school in a gang couldn't read father in jail. Blessed family, lots of troubles. Their hardships
sort of became my hardships. And I suffered from dyslexia and depression, anxiety, and bowel
problems as a child. My sister had diabetes since age four, and I saw there were a lot of troubles
that my mother and father had, and they went through bankruptcy, and we moved in with my grandmother
at one point, and my grandmother's both sides took care of my brother and I, who were Irish twins,
and my father wound up in jail for white-collar crime, but it saved him. He found Jesus,
and he was once very involved in religion in Christ and things like that, but he lost it,
and he found that again.
During their tough times before he wound up in jail as an adolescence in the seventh and eighth grade,
I got caught up with some tough people in L.A.
I was an 18th Street gang, and back then there weren't guns and knives that I hung out with.
And a lot of it had to do with the fact that my parents were around,
and I was on my way home from school one day, and I got to be able to.
up.
What did you get beat up for?
It was kids on the way home for school in Los Angeles on Sunset Boulevard.
And interesting enough, the person who beat me up eventually became my friend.
But through that, it was a little bit, I couldn't read and I wasn't good in school.
I liked to play sports, but I wasn't in any organized sports.
And my parents were either not home, they were working or something else.
And my brother and I just hung out on the streets.
And so we wound up at one point vandalized.
a school and got arrested.
That was, I got kicked out of the school, had to go to another school, take a city bus.
And that was a tough time for our family and just going through that.
And that was a little bit more into my hanging out with the gangs and street stuff for
a couple of years.
And then eventually I was arrested by LAPD officer who said, okay, your choice is,
clean it up or go to jail.
and I was 14, 15 at the time, and it was time to clean it up, and I did.
I heard, and maybe this is completely wrong, that once you're in a gang, it's really hard to get out.
How did you do that?
Well, you get beat up to get in, and you get beat up to get out.
What do you mean?
What, how did they beat you up?
Well, they have about five or eight guys beating you, you know, you're initiated to get in,
you initiated to get out.
Now, I don't know what it is today at all, but way back in the early 70s, that's what it was
like for me. So once you got beat up, are you automatically out? Well, yeah, that was out. And,
and part of it had to do with, you know, in my group, they realized that it was the wrong place for me.
And there was a better place. And so God gifted me that. And what do you mean? Like they, like,
you're like, hey, you're not gang material or hey, you know, we just think you could do better.
It was just time. And this is the way you get, get out. And some of those people were still,
sort of friendly and in my group where I was, it was acceptable.
Were they as violent back then as you read about now or no?
Not the people I hung out with.
It was street fighting, and I think of it in a way.
My brother and I really loved to wrestle.
And we'd wrestle all the time.
We'd break things in the house.
And it was always just, it was like we're warriors.
And I think part of the issue is that we're not.
meant to be locked under a classroom. And for me, I didn't understand anything happening anyway.
And I just wanted to run around and be a young kid, a boy, where I think naturally we want to do
those things. But we're not given that opportunity. And so I think it was just an outreach for me
to, one, have a group for protection in where I lived. And then secondly, we would fight more,
but not hurt to a point. You know, this is how we...
We worked at the time anyway.
And I can't speak of what it was like today, but I think it's certainly a spot that people
go to because they don't have anything else that they're seeing because of either family
or the environment.
And I was in a bad environment at the time, family-wise.
But then my parents ultimately came together and I was a hard worker.
I was always willing to help at the home.
And I had a job when I was 10 at a boat launching ramp in Newport Beach, where I was a
I would go every day.
And the work ethic is something that helped me out a lot,
realize that there's something different to do.
How did you make the transition from going to that
into wellness and the gut and fertility?
Well, let's see.
So I was really good in math, but I couldn't read.
And in high school, my grandmother got me a job at department store.
I worked at Dodger Stadium.
I realized service and work is something I liked.
Plus, I like cars, and I rebuilt cars, and I needed money to do that.
And so it brought me that.
And I got inspired to do the work.
Now, when I was in high school, I started ceramics, pottery, jewelry, and my Mrs. Wong,
and I did mechanic shop and wood shop and all those things because I was really good at my hands.
And then after I graduated high school in Los Angeles, I went to Los Angeles City College.
It cost me like a dollar a semester, and I went for four years, and I didn't know what I wanted to do at the time.
And I was in mostly art classes, and I worked a lot, and I broke my leg at 19, and I met a doctor that inspired me, kind of a hippie doctor at the time.
And I was like, wow, this guy's kind of interesting.
What does he do?
And I had a full-length cast on for three months.
So I was in bed or a recliner for about a month.
And I began to read because I was getting tired of television.
And I never read before, really.
And I started reading.
I went to the counselor's office and saw what it would be like to,
what I needed to do to be a doctor.
And I said, well, this isn't going to work because it was mostly a lot of history
in English.
and things that usually I wasn't good at understanding or memorizing,
but math and science I was good at.
And so I just put myself to focus on that.
And I had tutors for English and history,
and I was a tutor for math and science.
I was diligent and just kept at it.
I went four years to LA City College
because I didn't have the credits from high school
to go to the,
the degree that I wanted, which ultimately is biochemistry,
nutritional biochemistry, and oceanography at USC.
And so, you know, how did I,
that's how I got into medicine.
And even though I was a nutritional biochemistry major
in undergrad, standard medical training
was the really Mediterranean diet plant
and animal based in a mixed diet,
and there wasn't really any direction.
And plus, we're trained to diagnose a disease,
and to treat it with a drug or a dissection in general.
And there was no really digging into what causes disease in standard medicine.
I think this is a very important conversation because we have a lot of people that have
gone through medical school or medical degrees.
And more and more now this topic is coming up.
I think a lot of people, there's a misconception that they assume that if you're a doctor,
you understand prevention and nutrition and that you're taught about these things.
And what we've discovered interviewing people like yourself is that that's really not how modern medicine is taught from a degree perspective.
No.
And a lot of it has to do with Rockefeller, Jenny Rockefeller, the Flexner Report, and the control of science and medicine by the government over 100 years ago.
And so closed many medical schools for women and minorities and focused on, you know, this is the way it's going to be.
And so we really went into medicine.
I went to medicine because what the doctors did looked like the right thing to help people.
And plus my sister, Mary Ann, who had terrible diabetes for years, I remember taking care
for a little bit and seeing kind of what the hardship was.
And I thought, well, this is an area that I'm interested in.
But yeah, we're learning.
Alopathic medicine is learning the way how to diagnose, get anatomy and we get physiology.
But there's no real drive to understand the course.
cause of disease. And over the years of practice, I just practiced standard medicine for many years.
I was OBGYN. I did intramed medicine first and then OBGYN. And then I wound up doing a fertility
fellowship in the early 90s in Los Angeles, the time of the riots. And I didn't love what I was doing
and just doing fertility. I wanted to get back to the basics of OBGYN. I wound up leaving L.A.
moving to upstate New York in the mid-90s, a small town, completely away from where I grew up and
lived in L.A. And through my practice over the years, I realized that what we were doing
wasn't working a lot. And give me an example. Well, as a fertility doctor and helping people to
get pregnant, people that I thought should get pregnant weren't, and those that I thought shouldn't
did.
Why?
Didn't know that answer. And that was part of the problem. And I went through some suffering and
challenges through a separation and divorce a while back. And it drove me a little bit to depression.
My daughter didn't want to talk to me or see me anymore. She was 13 at the time. And I started
looking to a little bit of therapy, meditation, Buddhism, prayer, mindfulness. Rhonda Burns' book,
The Secret was coming out back then, and my friend was a Buddhist and started really digging into
how to control the thoughts and things that are happening in life. So that actually got me to
bringing meditation, prayer, yoga, acupuncture to my practice. I opened a wellness center. I
did retreats and seminars on mindfulness. And that helped because one of the problems with
anything is that it's so emotionally hard we want to just run away. We can't do it. And my thought
was, well, if we can help people calm the mind, reduce epinephrine and cortisol, build
serotonin oxytocin, we can change the energy, reduce inflammation, we can change the energy, reduce
inflammation, hopefully, and helped them get pregnant. That helped. And during that, some of my
patients were getting pregnant on paleo diet. And I had never talked about diet, I'd know what I'd do
what that was. Now, I personally suffered arthritis, migraines, kidney stones, bowelating,
depression. And I was at like 43 or 4 at the time. So I dug into paleo diet. And I started it myself,
which is a high fat hunter-gatherer diet.
Remind me no carbs with it?
Well, well, when we use the term, yes,
they really stay away from carbohydrates
in the sense of pasta, pizza, bread, and those sort of things.
I like to think of things as plants or animals,
and we could talk more about that.
And people are getting pregnant with that,
but I dug into that,
and then I found keto diet,
which is really similar as Atkins and paleo diet,
higher fat, lower carbs. And I went to that. I felt better, sharing with my patients and it was
helping them. And then I found carnivore about 15 years ago. And a guy was ripped and didn't
exercise. He looked great, didn't exercise, and he ate only meat. And that's what I said. That's
for me. We've had Michaela Peterson on this show and she talked all about herself.
Right, right, which is pretty amazing. And I did.
it and I'm like, whoa, in like a month, my stuff was better, but now it was gone. My mindset was
brighter. My energy was greater. I'm usually kind of a hyper guy anyway since a kid. My mother used
to put my brother and I on a leash. She'd be arrested today, but we were pretty uncorrigible
at the time. They were both amazing, my mother and father. So I was like, wow, now my job as a
doctor is to help people heal. And I did a lot of surgeries, a lot of standard.
medicine, IEIs inseminations to help people get pregnant, IVF to get pregnant, but we didn't have
much else. We had some pills, shots, and surgeries. And I was finding that both the mindset and the
nutrition were helping a lot of people. What do you mean the mindset? Well, our brain is often
focusing on worry. What's wrong in the world? My favorite topic. And we see it in the
the news and everything on our on our devices, our phones, and we're usually talking about what's
wrong in the world. And that damages the brain. It damages the body. It causes a lot of
inflammation. And so by learning methods that help us see the world in a brighter way.
and you can use religions and spirituality.
There's so many ancient philosophy
that human beings have been talking about
to change their lives by seeing it differently.
A lot about power positive thinking.
I love to go to Jesus Christ as a philosopher king,
whether you're religious or not, it doesn't matter,
but these ideas that have been shared
by all the ancient religions, there's something good
to change our mindset.
And that practice every day, I've written books on daily intentions and inspirations.
I'm working on a few other books.
I'm like Christ Carnivores, my next book coming out where I think, no matter what we do,
what are the problems in medicine is we find problems.
And we don't understand the causes of your problems.
And so you're either fat or you have,
high blood pressure or something your numbers don't look right. And we white coat doctors
aren't very good at coaching and cheerleading and positivity. And I like to focus on, I don't
generally wear a white coat anyway. I usually wear my black t-shirt, my black pants. That's
my usually outfit and my cross standing right in front of me. And because we want to be
forward in faith. Faith is seeing
life in absolutely the way it's supposed to be.
And imagining these are just pieces of the puzzle or the path
to get you to the place you wish to be.
And if we can actually see the thing we wish as if it is,
it shows up.
That's exactly how I run my entire life is I become it.
You must.
So anything I want in my life,
I don't say I wish, I hope I become.
in my, and I do it in my meditation.
I become whatever it is.
Sometimes some of the criticism of this very show,
which there's maybe like one or two in the history of the show.
Yeah, right.
Barely.
That we talk about this pretty regularly.
And what we say is there's an abundance of bad thought patterns or negative news or,
or bad stories or reasons why you can't or reasons why you shouldn't or reasons why things aren't happening.
Or worry.
Or worry.
Like you said.
And what we talk about a lot is exactly what you're saying, but which you articulated better,
which is we know for a fact all of those things are not helping us, either those thought processes
or patterns or focusing on what's going wrong or the negative.
And so if you look at it from the perspective of we know it's not helping, then the only
logical alternative is to start changing your mind and thinking in a way that potentially could.
Because we know on one side it doesn't, and there's, but on the other side, if it could change
and make things better, then why not train your brain to think that way?
Or focus on the good things in life.
The faith part of it is the best part of it.
And so many of us are trained in some religious philosophy.
And I always ask people, do you believe in God?
And it's interesting that somebody said, no, I don't.
But I believe in a higher power.
I remind them that's the label of God.
Because the highest power is within all of us.
And there's a book by U.S. Anderson called The Three Magic Words, which changed my life.
So as a scientist, I said, okay, God doesn't exist because all the terrible things happen in the world.
So I live like that and my science and everything is great.
I questioned God.
And then I went on a quest to figure out, okay, why do all these people believe in God?
What is it about?
Until I read the three magic words and the recognition is that I am God.
My eyes don't see, my ears don't hear, my nose doesn't smell.
My mind creates the story.
And so the recognition that I have control of the story, and I believe that Jesus Christ,
his only thing he came to do, was tell everyone, God is in you.
And so you don't need the temple, the mosque, the church.
You don't need any money to get in.
And Christ didn't carry a sword.
He said, everyone's there already.
And so when I finally realized, oh, wait a minute, God isn't there, here, he's in all of us.
The world changes.
And we're all suffering.
And we can change what I see by simply saying, I love you.
I love you.
It's sort of the most magical thing you could do.
And so it's a practice that I participate in, my daily meditation and prayer, or in a
moment where something is like hard or I'm feeling because it's natural to fear feel pain and worry
and regret and judgment and all those things because that's instinctual that's the ancient reptilian brain
but what modern humans have done is created a story that actually the world isn't out there
it's in here or in here so you're saying that you we are the creator of our own life we are the
creators and God is in all of us and God is everything. So I create you and you create me.
And the trick of life is to recognize that God created all of us. And interesting enough,
this comes back to carnivore a little bit. Why are we sick? Why are we depressed and anxious
and psychotic and depressed and schizophrenic and suicidal or criminal?
because our brain is damaged.
Our brain is highly damaged due to what I believe is a plant-based diet,
low-fat diet, which not only damages our gut
and makes alcohol in our gut via fermentation from the microbes,
the brain is damaged.
And so we share all these ideas and stories,
but it's quite difficult for us to see it.
because our brains are so damaged.
So are you saying that you think one of the reasons or two of the reasons that you have helped
40,000 women get pregnant, is you mixed the carnivore diet with mindset?
Carnivore lifestyle.
Okay.
Because carnivore diet is a tough one.
I like the idea that we're all lions.
Right.
I get that.
So you're like, it's not restrictive.
It's not restrictive.
You don't have to eat only meat.
And I personally think our biggest downfall is a low-fat diet
and eating three to six meals a day.
Lions don't eat all day, and they don't eat a low-fat diet.
Now, well, why is fat important?
You ever notice that butter never molds?
Well, butter is anti-inflammatory when you eat it.
Fat is anti-inflammatory when you eat it.
and nobody eats fat.
Fruit, fiber, vegetables, seeds, nuts, salad, chicken, fish, turkey, lean meat.
No fat.
So everything you're eating has to go to the liver and be converted to fat.
But our livers are damaged secondary to a low-fat diet and eating three to six meals a day.
These concepts are hard because we don't know why some people,
people get sick and other people don't. It's a mystery. Now I take care of sick people. So I always go to
what do you eat? The question is what do you eat? And the answer is organic, clean, healthy,
which doesn't tell me what you eat. But most of us are eating a low fat diet. Even many carnivores
eat a low fat diet because they cut the fat off or when they cook it, the fat melts away,
which isn't the same.
I lost 60 pounds by eating a ton of fat.
Which is like, whoa.
Right?
Butter all the time.
Tons of meat with the fat on it,
bacon with the fat on it,
all the fat.
It's completely opposite.
So fat is important on the human body
like it's important on most animals.
No other animal wants to be skinny.
And if you're too skinny,
you can't reproduce,
but if you're obese, many women still reproduce.
The problem isn't fat.
It's the inflammation caused by the plants,
which break down to sugars,
plus the plants, the original source of the birth control pill
and the abortion pill.
Explain that.
Well, herbal medicine.
Where did we get most medicines for thousands of years?
And plus the yam out of Mexico
was the source of the birth control pill.
I never do that.
And is the birth control pill good for humans?
No.
Terrible for humans.
It's one of the worst things we've ever done.
But that's what I was trained to do.
If you got irregular periods or bleeding or pain.
Or a pimple.
Or a pimple.
How about that?
I would put on the birth control pill.
Let's unpack this a little bit.
Let's unpack this a little bit.
Because inevitably, people will have a perspective of will birth control
enables them to have sex without, you know, conceiving,
and it enables them to, you know, obviously live a life without child rearing,
and it's on their time table.
And so when you say it's one of the worst things,
I think people are just going to want you as a medical professional
to unpack what you mean by that.
I'm not saying you can't have the right to use these things,
and I use them sometimes very rarely.
But what animal grows up to wait for,
reproduction until later time, none. And is sex entertainment or is it meant to be sensual and related
to reproduction? I mean, obviously we have sacks and I'm not chastising the world out there for it,
but when you're a teenager, what do you want to do? And it's both sides. That's our nature. We're
trying to stop nature, unfortunately. And part of it is, you know, having sex as entertainment
does increase your risk of infections and fertility. And postponing childbearing into the late
30s and 40s isn't optimal because no other animal basically starts having their time, their heat,
their time for reproduction and says, well, let's wait a few years.
Are you saying that you think people should try earlier?
Well, reproduction is meant to be when you're younger.
Technically you're most fertile, a woman's most fertile in their teens in early 20s.
You're saying if we wound back time and we were just these primal animals that lived in the
wild, we would never behave this way.
Well, we are primal.
And we'd respond many ways this way in the past, but there wouldn't be, hey, we've got to
not get pregnant because why?
going to want to be a doctor or entertainer.
These are things that we've developed in the modern world,
and many of the modern things we're doing
is destroying the number one thing is the most important,
which is building families.
And the incidence of infertility is risen significantly,
less than, I mean, male and female causes, by the way,
and I think they're the same cause,
bad sperm, bad eggs, bad embryos,
bad environment, and a bad mindset.
And so the dietary changes and the mindset changes.
And I think we're beginning to see the mindset changes people looking towards spirituality
and making decisions that, hey, you know, going out and drinking and smoking marijuana
and just randomly having sex isn't in anyone's best interest.
What kind of pushback do you get when you say that,
getting pregnant has to do with mindset? Well, let's see, changing, change, it's changing your
mindset, politics, religion, or diet is really hard to do. And so people come to a
standard doc for standard treatment, and we do a lot of it. I don't, I don't push anything.
People come to me to get helped to have a baby, and I ask all my questions.
questions, and then I give my advice and information. Now, I don't know what you want to do to have a
baby, but my job is to give you all options. Okay, so changing your diet could help. I'm not telling
you what to do, but you're paying me money and when you want to get everything on the table
so you can make your decision, not me. I'm not there to sell you IVF or IUI. I, UI,
I'm not a salesperson.
My job is to give you information.
And that's why I do my blogs and my TEDx talks and write my books and put them out there and do a ton of information for free.
Because what's the most important thing in life?
Our children.
And then their children.
And now with social media, the world has changed.
We now have a platform to go out there and share this wisdom and empower every human being to be.
their own leader. Today, you could get all the information that I got from medical school
training and residency, like just right at your home, on your phone. I have people that,
well, Dr. Kiltz, did you know about this and this and this? And sometimes I don't. Sometimes I do.
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or any of this stuff is a lot of,
I think we've got to a place to say
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that'll instantly change our condition, right?
Like, I can't lose weight.
Give me the thing that's going to do.
I think it's harder to go to someone and say,
yeah, we have all those tools,
but by the way, you changing your mind
or you changing your diet
or you getting into the,
getting some exercise will have a great impact.
And I think sometimes that message
is hard for people to stomach
because it means that you have to change your life.
Well, I ask people, what's the most important thing for you in your life?
And since I take care of people wanting to have a baby, they say having a baby.
And that's, well, what would you do for that most important thing in life?
And the answer almost always is anything.
And so I, again, I'm just giving the anything you could do.
And some people do it right away.
Some people never do it.
And quite often I see people that like they tried, didn't work, and then they might have done keto or carnivore, and they had success.
They did acupuncture.
They did yoga, meditation, prayer.
They had success.
And that's one of the most powerful things.
What are the affirmations that you tell people to shift their mindset when they want to get pregnant?
I am a mom.
I'm a dad.
I'm a parent.
It's the simplest thing to do.
I am.
I'm sure it's hard when you can't get pregnant because your brain is telling you,
oh my God, I can't get pregnant.
Oh my God, I can't get pregnant.
Oh, my God.
I had this experience with weight loss with my first baby.
I kept telling myself, oh, my God, I can't lose weight.
Oh, my God, I can't lose weight.
And guess what?
The second that I told myself, I am losing weight, it started to fall off.
Well, number one, being overweight is not a disease.
It doesn't cause any disease, which is kind of radical.
obesity is not a cause of disease. It's a instinctual process to get fat enough for migration,
hibernation, gestation, or famine. We're built to get fat. We're just living in the wrong
environment because food was never easy to have. You had to go hunt and gather. So we have
over exposure. Some of it's bad. It's just overeating as a biggest problem.
And so the, you have to, you have to get the mind there first, mind first.
So watch shows like yourself, you listen and learn from others that have been there.
And basically you're learning, even if you're learning a diet or an exercise or a pill or a shot,
you're still learning something, mind.
Our job is to put the right stuff forward.
so your mindfulness changes early.
And you see you have the power.
Quite often we look at ourselves in the mirror
and we don't think nice about ourselves.
Well, when you don't think nice about it yourself
and you fail, well, that's easy enough
to go right back into things that just make you happy,
which make you continue to fail.
So if we can help each other recognize
that you're beautiful and amazing already,
and then you see
the person you wish to be as if it is,
it'll always be that or better.
And the journey is not straight.
It is a practice too.
Like for me at least,
it's not something.
I've changed my mindset many times,
but you do,
to me,
I have to keep coming back to it every day.
So I have to keep going back to my,
to my positive affirmations.
It's not something like that's natural.
You almost have to put yourself in the practice.
Your heart's beating.
and you don't have to talk to it and tell it to beat.
Your lungs are moving air in and out.
You don't have to remind it.
And it is a daily practice.
Yeah.
It's actually an infinite practice.
See, every thought you think is a prayer to the universe.
Yep.
Every negative thought attracts, every positive thought attracts.
You are very Louise Hay.
I love Louise Hay.
I can tell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it took me a while to figure this out.
It was sort of like this.
It's just my,
thinking that's the problem. This is why I was served your content on Instagram because I found you
on Instagram because all my starred contents Louise Hay and that's why you must have popped up.
I don't remember the video. It must have been something like this though because I sent it to the
team and I was like he has to come on the show. Well everything happens as it's meant to be and God puts
us in places at times and ways that we don't always understand but if we just take a moment and
sit back and go, okay, God, what do you have for me today?
Wow, this looks interesting and amazing.
And we're open to it.
Why do you think that people are constantly worrying and having a sabotaging mindset?
Because that's natural in our instinct.
Yeah.
Because as a hunter-gatherer, wherever we were, we had to think and be prepared for the worst-case
scenario.
I call it, Michael does it sometimes.
I call it saber-tooth.
Yeah, it's a saber-tooth.
That's absolutely it.
And so, but the philosophy of our ancients taught us, the black wolf or the white wolf,
where do you put your mind to?
And it changes your life by changing it.
And this is, we were ancient philosophers thousands of years ago.
That's what made us different.
And I think God changed our lives.
when we recognize there's something out there.
But I think what we didn't realize, we created it.
It's in us.
What's your practice that you do to shift your mindset in the morning?
Oh, I usually get up between three and four.
Today I get up at 1.30.
It was a little crazy.
And I sometimes do.
Usually 9 o'clock.
Okay.
And I take one to three naps.
I'm a napper.
I mean, I, lion's nap.
Dogs and cats nap
I'd love a nap
Practice in a nap
But you have young children
Which makes it a little harder
For moms
But I think it's one of the most powerful things we do
And when I nap
Ten minutes
I love you, thank you
I love you thank you
I go through my gratitude list
of the people of my life
Even the hard people
Yeah
And I'm grateful for the people
In my gang
in my father going to jail, in my grandparents dying when I didn't know them in suicide.
There's a gratitude to all of us because we're all an amazing journey.
This is like such an amazing journey and we're all going to die.
Let's make ourselves the best food and fertilizer for the next life.
And let's see the next life in the energetic way that we want it to be.
Well, if you start to worry about something and you start to spiral and you can't get off the worry and you're ruminating on the worry, how do you walk yourself back?
I love you, thank you.
You just constantly say your attention.
It's my go-to.
I love you, thank you.
I love you, thank you.
And I wake up in the morning.
I do my gratitude prayer.
I make my bed.
I do 100 push-ups.
Oh, nice.
And I can tell you.
Look, some strength under that blazer.
I'm not bad for a lot.
almost 70. No, no, no. I'll be finishing my 70th year in March. And I've learned so much in the
struggles, the pain, the sorrow, the breakup, the, you know, friends who died of cancer, which
inspired me every day to be on this quest. Like, I feel like a kid in the candy shop that I, like,
I figured something out. And all I want to do is share it with the world. Do you think a lot of
dis-ease comes from dis-ease?
it's natural to feel uncomfortable.
And I think when we focus on it's okay, it's natural.
And I think the power and belief in God is like the most amazing thing.
It's a mythologic story that has such greatness to all of us in this world.
And when I practice that,
I have pain, I have regret and judgment.
I get depressed sometimes, relationship problems, work problems, life problems.
But when you can imagine, because I look at the world, the great mountains and the rivers
and the Grand Canyon, let's just say it was once flat and smooth.
And then something happened, earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, and all sorts of things
happened that changed it to create the beauty, darken the light, the rough and the soft.
That's what life is really about. And so when you finally go through the hardships and you find
that, okay, I'm still alive, but I found something that fed me much more so than food.
And I'm on my three-day fast. I may go to fast through tomorrow right now. I did a 15-day fast
three months ago.
Damn.
And I do five days quarterly, three days a month, and I do one meal a day.
Is it easy?
It's not.
Until you think forward, my next meal is Friday.
You go five-day fast.
That's easy.
Fasting is easy.
I love it.
What is the fasting do for you from a mindset perspective and medically?
So our problem is three meals a day.
our gut is full from the day we're born to the day we die,
which means the food in your gut is always digesting
and always sending sugars and amino acids to the liver.
That means sugars always circulate in your bloodstream.
Insulin's always elevated, big cause of disease.
And plus the microbes are always fed and happy,
and then everyone's got bloating,
and they've got upper and lower respiratory problems,
they get bowel bleeding, endometrials.
and pelvic problems is a bowel problem. Infertility. Every disease, in my opinion, is a bowel
problem. So by emptying the bowels, truly emptying them, which I think takes three days of fasting,
now autophagy sets in. That means your body heals itself. The microbes are suppressed. The plant
antigens and chemicals and the plant sugars, which are highly allergenic to us, are gone.
Historically, from an evolution perspective,
it must have been much more common for us to fast for that period of time because of the hunting and gathering.
Well, that's natural to us.
Meaning, like, our ancestors likely were forced to do that because of lack of food sources.
I wouldn't use the word forced.
It was natural for them.
Okay.
Okay.
The Mongols.
I love the Mongols.
Okay.
Yeah.
And they didn't carry a bunch of food and people to cook.
They rode horses.
And they fasted.
They didn't eat.
They never felt, oh, I'm hungry.
They didn't even stop to camp a lot of time.
They just go in and eat a vein and drink the milk and the blood.
And that's how they were able to conquer everybody.
And they ate fat.
And so our problem is we don't eat fat.
And so when we hunted and killed, you ate the fat, the blood, the organs.
You used the parts of the animal for your shelter, your clothing, medicinally, and for weapons.
And the best way to control a human, domesticate them, or convert a lion or a wolf to a dog or a cat, is feed them plants.
bread and beer controlled the masses.
We will do anything what's our brain gets addicted to beer, alcohol, drugs, tobacco, even coffee,
highly addictive plant chemicals that control humanity.
And so I think the pharaohs and the kings figured it out.
They knew how to control the masses.
sugar was one of the first products of controlling.
Explore the world to find places to grow the sugar,
which was the most addictive substance,
which basically because of the exploration
and exploitation of humans around the world,
because of sugar and then tobacco and alcohol,
which became large commodities.
Opium.
Opium.
Which was controlled by the kings who forced people around the world to use these things.
It's industrialization.
A lion and wolf-fed plants becomes a dog and a cat.
Warrior humans become slave, soldiers, peasants, and prisoners.
It's a simple truth.
I mean, I drink coffee sometimes, and I'll,
drink a little alcohol sometimes, but I recognize that there's a little bit of an addiction.
Now, I'm a good minimizer, a liminator. I went two and a half years no coffee. I just started
back up a couple of months ago. I'm off it again. I'm pretty good at that. Mindset is the
master way to control the master, which is within all of us. What do you think about GLP-1s if those
help balance your insulin? Well, the birth control helps balance your hormones. Right. And so I've got a
drug for those in menopause will balance your hormones and help prevent disease. So I'm always
concerned that we're mostly selling a drug because it's too hard for you to lose weight. We've got a
drug, a doctor, dissection, and we'll help you out. Now, you're going to have to take this drug
for life, which if you look at the war on obesity,
we've made a lot of money on that one.
Just like the concept that menopause
might be a manufactured modern medical creation
to sell drugs and treatments.
Now, I'm not saying these things don't happen to people,
but we've lost our way in thinking about natural healing,
about mindfulness, about,
grounding, about sunlight, about simplicity, about spring water, and maybe we don't have to fill
our home up with a bunch of alcohol and processed food.
And synthetic fragrances and chemical cleaning supplies.
It's everywhere.
It's on our clothes.
We use these things.
We can't get away from them completely.
I don't worry about most of this stuff.
but if someone has a problem, it's like, well, what can we do to help you?
So if someone's listening right now and they're struggling with infertility,
you have helped, like I said, 40,000 people, women get pregnant.
What would you tell them?
Never give up.
Okay.
And give it up to God.
Within yourself.
Not a lot of doctors saying that.
We don't talk about God very much.
What kind of pushback do you get from the medical community?
from your critics that are there, if there are any.
They all love me.
And it's interesting.
Obviously, there's a lot of things I do that my medical community doesn't believe in.
My dietary approach, the mindset approach.
And I use do a lot of reproductive immunology, and there's a lot of pushback with that.
And then there's a question, well, what age is a woman allowed to have a baby?
And there's some discussion that maybe we shouldn't allow women over 55 to have a child, which is growing tremendously.
And there's a lot of other things that go on.
I'm not here to answer what anyone should do, but there's a lot of questions.
Do you ever use IVF in your practice?
I have one of the largest IVF centers in America, C&Y for Tilly, which is also the most affordable.
But this is where I'm confused.
So when you've helped these people get pregnant, is it my?
mindset and diet with IVF, or is it just IV? Like, is it a mix? I don't know the numbers exactly.
I'm not here to count numbers. It's a mix. And we see a lot of people for IVF because IVF is very
expensive. I'm a quarter of the price of most everyone else. Plus, we integrate a lot of different
things. I practice medicine coming from the standard approach, but,
But I've learned a lot in the non-standard approach, which I always want to help people here and helping them get pregnant naturally.
But it depends on the amount of disease they've already suffered from.
Some people have lost their tubes or they have severe pelvic damage from scar tissue and infections.
And so IVF might be the right thing for them or that's not right for them even if it would be.
you take a more holistic approach where you look at all of the different possibilities and try to weigh all of the different options medical and you know spiritual and mindset and then inform your patients on what decision is right for them i only share ideas
i never tell them what to do or ever say yeah this is the best option i give them the odds in a sense a 50 year old doing ivf
We haven't seen that happen.
Now, a 44-year-old still might get pregnant, even naturally, with a lot of changes.
And I so focus on the carnivore lifestyle, and for me it's faith first.
See what you wish for and be grateful for that already.
Eat fat.
When you eat fat suppresses the microbes in the gut.
when the microbes are high, they create alcohol, aldehytes, heat, and gas.
They're toxic.
James Henry Salisbury, Salisbury steak.
Have you ever heard of him?
Sure, yeah.
He's a doctor that graduated Albany Medical School in 1850s.
He went on to the Civil War.
His men were dying of dysentarian pneumonia.
He noticed their diet and he switched them to a meat diet and they got better.
He did science looking at a microscope and recognizing the microbes were flourishing in the diarrhea and in the lung.
And he wrote a book, a very detailed book.
And we have Salisbury steak today.
We just don't know who the guy was.
But it's science that fat and meat reduces inflammation in the gut.
You never see meat in the toilet because it's the most readily absorbed in the upper gut.
Meaning like so, okay, so when you say that, like if somebody goes to the bathroom and they look at their
stuff, they will see sometimes vegetables or undigested plants that they've got that just basically
pass through their body. But with meat, it never comes out that way. It doesn't. That's interesting.
You know, a friend of mine, LeCopus, Kent Carnivore was very sick with IBS and eventually has whole colon
removed. Now, no doctor ever mentioned keto or carnivore. They said more plants. So when he has this
colostomy, he can see what comes out in the bag on his standard diet.
Plants were coming out whole in the coal from, so no colon just coming out from the small intestine.
See, it's in the large intestine that the microbes will take down the fiber and the plants.
So you rarely see them in your poop.
He went carnivore, nothing.
So if somebody comes to you and they say, I have a plant base or a vine.
vegan diet and I'm suffering with gut issues or migraines or sleep or hormones. Do you advise them to
stop with that diet? Well, I advise them with some things. I have people that say, well, I'm not
going to change my vegetarian diet or a vegan diet. Well, vegetarians are easy. They can do eggs,
butter, cream, and cheese. So now you have no plants in your diet. And if you did that for a month,
It's quiche.
Wow, you might get pregnant.
But again, I only offer these things.
For vegetarians and for all of us, more fasting windows.
That's how we evolve.
More fasting windows.
And for vegans?
The same thing.
So vegans cook your plants well to simplify them.
You want to kill the microbes because plants are highly contaminated with microbes.
Salads and plants are recalled all day long.
How often is rabbi steak we called?
They're not.
And so I work with my Mediterranean's, add more fat, cook the plants well, eat less frequently.
But it's more fat, which is, again, that's keto and paleo.
I'm not telling everyone to go carnivore.
I do carnivore, okay, sometimes I have some French fries or a cookie cake or ice cream.
I love these things time to time.
I drive cars, fly airplanes, and I live with a human being.
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What's wrong with the sperm?
Ah, okay, so.
Let's not just pick on the girls.
Let's pick on the boys.
Okay, so it's 100% the woman's cause.
And it's 100% the man's cause.
Ooh, that's interesting.
It's 100% both.
So our ability to say, oh, it's 70% yours and 30% yours.
How do we know that?
I feel like every marriage we should approach it.
It's 100% my fault and it's 100% your fault.
Always.
Always.
You're going to say it's 100% your fault?
If you say it's 100% your fault, I will.
Wow.
You're right, honey.
Yes, you're right.
Yes, dear.
Yes, dear.
I agree that it is 100% your fault and 100% my fault,
but also 100%.
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imperfect on this too by the ways Michael it's this is we are all on a journey of learning and we try
to be perfect today and we do our best today. It just takes men longer it takes well we're okay men are
dumb sorry well we're simple yeah you're like golden retrievers if you flatter us and
and feed us and it's your back and then make love to us take the credit card do whatever you want dear
it's simple it's pretty simple we really are very simple and and this is where i think the carnivore
lifestyle ideas come in again i love you and i love you the more we say you're right honey i love
you the just the word i love you and eye contact and and sometimes you know the other thing they tell us
in medicine you can't touch people
And people say, kills, I don't hug.
Because they know I'm a hugger.
I'm Italian.
And so connection and positivity and faith in God is critical.
So it's always a sperm problem.
It's always an egg problem.
So how do you fix your sperm?
Well, the same way you fix your eggs.
Mindset and carnivore?
Faith, fat, fasting, fertility.
It's simple.
It's fat.
It's fat forward, fat focused.
men don't want skinny we want fat women are trying to be skinny and it's not working because we've given
people the wrong information if you simply focus on faith fat fasting and fitness and you have to be
we're meant to be sensual it's not meant to be slam bam it takes time and how do you heal it
look at all these ideas. See, the plants in the gut ferment in the colon, the bugs for women go
right out the rectumannus and right into the vagina. Vaginitis, cystitis, cervicitis, cervical cancer,
endometriosis, endometritis, ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, irregular periods.
All these things are just secondary or they're a diet. It's a gastrointestinal problem.
For men, the same problem.
They have libido problems.
They have testicular problems.
They have testicular cancers on the rise.
And they're all secondary of those bugs that are not just sitting in the colon and single right in the toilet.
They're moving.
The microbes proliferate.
Every time they proliferate, they grow.
The mass grows.
And so that's why the fat and fasting is important to suppress them.
Stick a butter a day for men and women.
A stick of butter a day?
I eat a lot of butter
I eat a lot of butter too
But a stick
Well I have a stick to a stick
You define it
I mean ultimately a lot of fat
Might make you
Fat
I see this on the rise a lot
Okay so I'll preface this
My dad is 82 years old
I told you about him
He's a pilot young guy
Still weight lifts still works
Still sharp as attack
Run around
Still drives
You know fast cars
And all sorts of things
His entire life
Everyone told him
His diet was chair
but it was mostly meat and potatoes, butter, eggs,
mine's all there.
And what's interesting for me to see him now is this guy at least to salt his watermelon and apple.
Yep.
And everyone, I remember being a kid and be like, man, people would say your diet's going to kill you.
Now at 82, still sharp, strong, running around, working.
Mine's all there.
Gary Bostic was right.
And I now, and I see this, there was a lot of cholesterol discussion at the time.
But now I'm seeing this news that cholesterol, you might want higher cholesterol, and it may be a good thing, and it may be preventative from Alzheimer's and dementia.
And I wonder if you have a perspective on that because I go back and forth with one of my business partners and I say, like, listen, you should not be avoiding eggs in salt and butter and meat.
And I think that's a novel idea for a lot of people right now.
The recommended diet is fruit, fiber, vegetable, seeds, nuts, salad, lean meat, no red meat, and three meals a day.
are we getting healthier or sicker?
The cost of health care going down or up.
And so we need to just look at that.
My parents did a lot of meat and eggs.
They lived in 94.
My grandma lived 104.
Despite drinking and smoking, she lived a long time.
She was a very positive working woman.
They worked.
And cholesterol, let's see, low cholesterol and no cholesterol
all and no hormone regularity, damage to your hormones, thyroid, big, big problem. The plants, by the way,
attack the thyroid gland. They're called goitrogens. And we know they damage the thyroid gland,
and they're all plant-based. But my bit is they damage every single cell of our body and cause all the
diseases. Oh, and by the way, one thing to out about my dad, that guy's never met a salad in his
life that he's like. I don't think I've ever seen him eat a salad besides maybe like,
like once or twice in a restaurant.
Well, so it's interesting about fruit.
So, bright fruit, simple sugars digest in the upper rest,
in the upper upper gastrointestinal tract, small intestine.
And so they don't get down to ferment and add salt.
We don't use enough salt.
Yeah.
Salt, extra salt is excreted, extra sugars are converted to fat in the liver
via insulin and distributed everywhere.
So the salt leaves the body, but the sugar sits in the body
and poisons us essentially.
Well, why are, why do we like sugar?
because it gets us fat.
Why do we love to make love to our partners?
Because it gets babies.
These are strictly nature saying,
I know you don't want to eat that fruit today,
but if you don't, you're going to be dead in a week.
Because famine and starvation were very common.
They're still common in this world for different reasons.
But ultimately, we're working to get back to our ancient nature.
You have said that you're not a fan of exercise, but you're a fan of being in motion.
What does that mean?
Well, animals don't exercise.
They do what they naturally do.
If they're running, it's either usually to capture something or run away from something,
but they're not exercising.
And so the repetitive motion, can I borrow your Ferrari and take it to the racetrack three times a week
to get it worked out so it's not.
going to last longer?
No, but if I had a far, you could borrow it.
Okay, good, thank you.
But ultimately, friction, heat, and damage to the body,
the number of joint replacements and people that fall and hurt themselves is on the rise.
But we tell you should exercise.
And we've looked at people who are exercise and they live longer.
Well, are they living on the cause of exercise?
Or you just pick some people that were older and they happen to be exercising.
We sell a lot of stuff that's related to exercise too, by the way.
And so I can only tell you that I used to do a ton of exercise, and I hurt my knees, my hips,
and I finally stopped.
I do light walking.
I do some hills, light weights on my back.
I do about an hour of walking a day.
I don't get it every single day, but I go to work every day.
And I have a stand-up desk, and I'm always moving.
And that's what we're here for.
You're not telling people to stop moving their body
or stop lifting everyday objects
or maybe challenge yourself with a couple push-ups
here and there in the morning, right?
You're not telling them to stay stagnant.
You're just saying to not do exercises
that potentially cause life-altering.
We have a comfort crisis.
Yeah.
And this couch is really nice,
but I usually use it to take a nap.
And otherwise I'm up, standing up and doing work like that.
I think it really is, we're telling people,
oh, can't wait for retirement,
Don't you want to work less? Oh, you shouldn't have to work so hard. But what in life is created
through easy? Nothing. Hard is what we're born for. And so when you have that mindset, I love to watch
movies and shows or read books that are about heroes and hardship and challenges. This is,
Joseph Campbell's work and there's so much great stuff out there that inspires us. I love Superman and
Mighty Mouse and all these superheroes because they sort of put in our brains.
That's why we need the images.
We need the thing to hold on to see because our brain moves through vision.
And we've been led to think you should just lay on the couch, sit and watch TV.
I mean, you can listen to these podcasts while you're on your walk.
And that's the beauty of so much.
I do a ton of audiobooks.
I move and I take a name where you go to work.
And so I think we need to encourage people that it's okay that you failed.
I want you to get up.
I failed the test.
Okay, great.
I fail.
Oh, couldn't read.
I'm still, when I take a test or I go through the security at the airport,
I'm always a little nervous, right?
And I'm like, okay, where's that coming from?
You know, I always get through anyway and I pass the test.
and but I realized that that's a normal feeling and it's okay to fail.
Wip yourself off, get a mentor, a coach, listen to him and her podcast show because these are
inspiring things for people and that's one thing that changed my life.
I did audiobooks and I always, if I'm in my pottery studio, my painting studio or on a walk
or riding my bike, I'm listening to something inspiring.
and that's what we all need to get to.
I love this conversation.
Beautiful conversation.
Thank you so much.
Where can everyone find you?
Dr.kiltz.com is a great place.
Kiltz.
I've got Instagram, YouTube, TikTok,
all the things out there.
We'll link it all out.
Thank you for making the trip out here.
This was fun.
I'm really glad we've got to do this in person as well.
Well, I've got to fly my airplane
both ways and it's always a blast to be 40,000 feet up. Really appreciate what you guys are doing
and it's very inspiring also. Thank you. Come back on anytime. Love to.
