The Bossticks - Dr. Will Cole On Why You're Aging Faster Than You Think, The Habits That Keep You Young & How To Live Longer

Episode Date: September 10, 2026

#1,005: Join us as we sit down with Dr. Will Cole – functional medicine expert, New York Times bestselling author, and host of The Art of Being Well. Known for consulting people around the globe, Dr. Will provides a functional medicine approach for thyroid issues, autoimmune conditions, hormonal imbalances, digestive disorders, and brain problems. In this episode, Dr. Will shares why we may be aging faster than we realize, what brain fog can reveal about cellular health, and the biggest factors driving biological aging. He breaks down the impact of chronic stress, trauma, light exposure, environmental toxins, mold, EMFs, and metabolic health, while sharing practical ways to support cellular health and build resilience. Plus, we discuss the pressure of modern wellness culture, moving away from rigid health identities, and finding a more balanced approach to feeling your best and living a longer, healthier life.   For Detailed Show Notes visit TheBossticks.com   To connect with Dr. Will Cole click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   To learn more about Dr. Will Cole, shop his latest book Heal Your Cells, and listen to The Art of Being Well, visit https://drwillcole.com.   Join us for Dear Media by Day in Austin, TX on September 26th. Get your tickets now at http://dearmedia.com/events.   This episode is sponsored by Sofi Visit http://Sofi.com/skinny to learn more and see if a SoFi Small Business Loan is right for your business.   This episode is sponsored by ARMRA Go to http://armra.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY to get 30% off your first subscription order.   This episode is sponsored by Omni-Biotic Visit http://skinny.omnibioticlife.com and use code SKINNY for 20% off your first order.   This episode is sponsored by Beekeepers Naturals Go to http://beekeepersnaturals.com/SKINNY or enter code SKINNY to get 20% off your order.   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential  Reduce puffiness and boost radiance with The Skinny Confidential Mint Roller, now available at http://shopskinnyconfidential.com.  Produced by Dear Media

Welcome back to the Bostics. If you have been listening for some time to our show, you already know Dr. Will Cole. He's a functional medicine expert, New York Times bestselling author, and the host of the Art of Being Well on the Dear Media Network. He is also Gwyneth Paltrow approved. He is not messing around when it comes to exhaustion, inflammation, hormone dysfunction, and symptoms. You are going to learn how to cut through the wellness noise in this episode. let's welcome our friend Dr. Will Cole back to the Bostics. You know, we've done this show for a long time.

We're really into these kind of topics. We're going to get all into cellular aging. We're into all of the things, the fringe things. We've tried all the, you know, we're always experimenting, taking care of ourselves, supplementing, all the stuff that we all like. And I say that because I was, the other day, I was, sometimes I'll smoke a cigar and sometimes I'll have some alcohol. And this woman.

Sometimes you'll smoke a cigarette. This woman rode into me. And she's like, how could you be doing these things? And I was like, listen, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was like, sometimes I drink. Sometimes I enjoy a cigar. And sometimes I stay up past my bedtime. Like, let's not get confused about like me enjoying life.

But I think that people think like, you know, like this wellness community has gotten so far into like the pockets of like peptides and wellness and sober. Fine. Do your thing. But like my message is it could be an 80-20, right? Like you can sometimes let loose a little bit and you'll be fine if you're doing the consistent things most of the time. The consistent foundation matters the most. I will say most, there's a certain percentage of people that the 80, 20 doesn't work when they're looking to heal. Sure.

Of course. But if you're an averagely healthy person, yeah, you have to find what that wiggle room and resilience that your body has and there's so much bio-individuality. Yeah, I mean, like personally, like Lauren and I are in the gym, four to five days a week. We're doing all that. We do all the things that we talk about on the show. show and then once in a while we'll go out as friends and let lose i think the reason being is like we do all the things that we all discuss so that we can also do the other things but i would be very bored if it was just all this stuff okay yeah let's let's wrap wait how long have you guys had the

show what year what did you start march of 2016 okay i think probably was on 17 or 18 you were on we were pulling you were on the earliest episode was episode like 280 or 283 one of the we were looking up but nearly like 10 years probably yeah you've been on you probably are one of the most recurring guests with four. There's a few people that have got that number, but yeah. You need like a... A tally. We just got over a thousand episodes.

It's been a while. Congratulations, guys. Thank you. Talk to us about brain fog. I'm talking about in the new book called heal yourselves that I wrote with my friend and colleague, Dr. Josh Axe who's been on the pod before, on your pod before. We have an epidemic of cellular dysregulation going on. And one of the hallmark studies that we talk about in the book was a Stanford study was published in

2023. They found one in five Americans over the age of 50 have at least one organ aging more rapidly than the rest of their body, this uneven aging. And if the brain cells were aging more rapidly, they were at 80% increased risk of some narrative of issues like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's. If their heart cells were aging more rapidly, they were at over a 200% increased risk of heart attack, stroke, heart failure. And they look at 11 different organs. They look at the liver. they'll get many different things. That's even worse for younger people. There was a study published just this summer in nature. They found that people born after 1965 and every decade after that are aging more rapidly than people born prior to 1965 at that same age. The worst was people millennials. People born in the 90s are aging more rapidly than people born in 1965 at the same age.

So we have this rapidity of cellular aging. That's why things like autoimmune problem, are happening younger and younger. Girls are getting their periods younger and younger. Type 2 diabetes used to be called adult onset diabetes now. 38% of preteens are pre-diabetic. So why brain fog? It's because of this. The nervous system, the cells of the nervous system are dysregulated. They're stressed out. I mean, the guy Sinclair at Harvard, he talks about ex-differentiation. So we talk about in the book, but the brain cells forget to be a brain cell. So they're disrescentral. regulated or ex-differentiated. And that's when you have chronic health problems. So in short, systemically, it's neuroinflammation. It's inflammation of the nervous system. But it's actually not an

organ problem. It's the cells that make up the organ that are all impacting each other. So how do we fix this? How do we fix ourselves? So maybe explain, I mean, everyone knows what cells are, but explain how you guys got so fastened with cells and what cellular aging really is why it occurs. Yeah. So in part, it's not just one thing, right? So you have to look, let me say this. This is based on research that we very well documented in the book and is born out of tens of thousands of telehealth patients I've seen over the past 16 years. So this isn't just conjecture in my, from my perspective. This is I look at labs all day long. I see what moves the needle. So this is not, do I believe in it or not. This is what works, what doesn't. And the rest is just commentary.

from people in social media. So I'll break down the main things that are causing this cellular confusion where cells kind of lose recognition of self and they kind of lose their way. And all of this exists on a spectrum. Mild symptoms for some people, like mild brain fog,

mild background anxiety, all the way to neurodegenerative problems. And that's just the brain, let alone the gut or the ovaries or your skin. It's every system of your body. So it's the foods we're eating and the foods we're not eating. So that's a piece of it.

It's not just what we eat, it's when we eat. So researchers call a lot of these cellular dysfunctions or chronic health problems. It's chronobiological, meaning we're eating too many foods that don't love us back too often. So this idea of fasting, even if it's just fasting through the night, back to like optimizing sleep and not eating too late at night. Because your cellular repair mechanisms like a topogy where your cell actually renews itself and mytoagy where the mitochondria renew them. it's happening exponentially higher when you're sleeping. So to make sure we're really getting that sleep hygiene down well. So it's back to what we eat, when we eat, light is the natural next one.

It is, we're exposed to all of this dirty light too often. It's throwing off our circadian rhythms. Dirty light. Did you hear that? I'm going to scream that in the kitchen. Dirty light. Dirty light. But you, I want to say Michael here.

I know. You're trying to say. I could tell. Blue light, you actually do need blue light in the morning. You do need it in the morning. It is just we don't need it all day long. So yeah. You want to get outdoors in the real sunlight of the day. But my thing in the morning, again, I think where people are to your point about sleep hygiene, you will have poor sleep hygiene if you wake up in dark settings and don't get light in your eyes. And then if you're the reverse that, if you're just blasting yourself with light late at night, you're going to have bad. It's just not a good. Yeah. It's not good for sleep. Sleep and light and dark. We need a healthy relationship with that because it's actually throwing off our cellular clocks. We have what's called the SCN part of the brain. It's the central nervous system clock that connects and communicates to our peripheral cellular clocks. So because we're scrolling on our phone too late at night because we're not outside getting natural sunlight and seeing the dark,

our cellular clocks have lost track of time. And they're tick-talking too fast. And that's contributing to cellular aging. The next one would be environmental toxins. of course, herbicides, pesticides, microplastics, forever chemicals, heavy metals. And the next we biotoxins, that's things like mold,

bacteria, viruses. But I will say mold, toxic mold has never been healthy. I mean, the Bible talks about it. Lovittagus talks about burning the house down if you have mold. We have mold remediators. Now, we don't have to do that. But I think we're hearing about it more and more because of the EMF conversation. And there's in vitro cell studies that show this

that the mycotoxins, the mold releases more mycotoxins because of EMFs, because of electricity, the man-made polarized EMFs were exposed to. Wow. So I think that's why people are in these sick homes more and more. It's just, yes, it's a mold, but it's a mold EMF storm and our cells are more permeable. So the mold is activated by the EMF from the electricity. Yeah. And then people are genetically, some people are more sensitive to mold than others.

So there's nuance in context to that. But yes, it's, it is. is a perfect storm. And then the last piece, I will say, is the mental, emotional, spiritual stuff. It's chronic stress, unresolved trauma, spiritual disconnection, a relationship with God, and other people are relationships and the tribalism that's there. So all of that stuff is what I mean to say is it's not just one thing. And nor do you have to find out it be perfect in all of those things, but everyone has their own stubborn areas. For some people, they have the food down, but they're serving their body a big slice of stress and trauma every day. And they're not dealing with the mental,

emotional, spiritual stuff. For some people, when you run labs, it's an environmental toxin piece, and it has nothing to do with the foods that they ate, has to do with something that they were exposed to when they were younger. There's bio-individuality to that. But we need all of that summarized with this, our cells feel unsafe. So what's making our cells feel unsafe? And the cell danger response is this ancient mechanism that's meant to protect us. It cannot distinguish between physiological stress and psychological stress. So we have to find what's not loving our body back, what's making ourselves feel unsafe,

and then start with that process of addressing it. How do you personally feel most in alignment? I would say simplicity, simplicity and sustainability. Sustainability. What are something that I love, so I can stay consistent with it, that loves me back,

it's not a source of dread or obsession or like this frenetic OCD tendency that I think is too rampant in our space. So it's eating foods. Like I eat pretty simply meat, fruits, rice, some vegetables, fish. I mean, I eat clean. I have a gratitude practice in the morning.

But for me, and I talk about it in the book, I was doing all the basic wellness stuff. But in 2023, I think I told you guys this. I was obviously in the Dear Media family. My dad died suddenly in a car. accident. And I had already been go, go, go for so long. You guys know, like running, doing all the things, right? And there was an eve of my book, fourth book, got feelings that came out. And my dad was going

to pick up my mom from the airport. It never made it. We don't know the details, but he lost consciousness in his car, had some cardiovascular event autopsy police reports, people saying, and he passed out, ran off the road, full speed, and died in a car accident, never made it. And he. It never made So that was a, and my dad and I, I love my dad and he loved me, but we had this healing relationship that was complex, but was like the best it had ever been before he dies. It was wrestling with all those, like, why didn't I get more time with that guy that I was like, we were like really growing together. So I, to answer your question, like what works for me, it was for me, all that stuff worked until it didn't. All the wellness stuff worked until it didn't. And I needed to deal

with this burnout stress trauma piece that was like easy for me to give advice to telehealth patients, it's another thing for me to address. So that's an example there is like, okay, that was the area I needed to focus on that made my cells feel unsafe. So like leaning into therapy and EMDR

and somatic practices and vagal nerve stimulation, the things we talk about in the book, because that was my stubborn area. That was the area that I needed to focus on. And around that same time in 2023, was when that whole Gwyneth Paltrow with the bone broth and the podcast drama. So like the world didn't know like I was going through my dad just dying. The book was coming out.

And then like the world was saying that we were going to like killing people with disordered eating and fasting. And that was intense. I don't know if you remember that Lauren with the book, the, when the clip went viral of the eating the bone broth. I don't understand how a clip on bone broth activates that many people. It activated people. It was like a thing. And it wasn't just like. ha ha funny some of it was but it was like you are wicked and you are hurting people and this is

dangerous you know like i mean listen anything in media between 2020 and 2020 for was dicey i mean we do this show yeah we get plenty of flak for doing the show on a regular basis it's what we signed up for no problem but like also running dear media and having other shows yeah like that was one fire there's a lot of fires during that time is what i would tell you exactly it was like everything was People were suit. You're right. It was like just in the midst of COVID. Everyone was just at home. It had nothing better to do than just be keyboard warriors. And then the press just loved it. And I was just, look, on a normal day, it wouldn't matter. I could handle it. But it was like, I was stressing and already stressed out, burnt out person. I was like, I just want to hide and go away. So like, that's where the origins of heal yourselves came from. Because I was like, I need to go beyond the basics and deal with these things that were keeping my cells on hypervigilant mode. My nervous system was hypervigilant.

So how do you doing what you do? Working with the clientele that you work with, with your podcast and all these different things you're doing, stop yourself and say I need to heal. And what works out of all these things? It started that in 2023 when I got feelings came out. I kind of said no to a lot of things around the book, yeah. Just letting no be okay. And he was uncomfortable because it was like you have to promote a book and right. And it's like to get out there.

And I did some of it. kind of helped too because it was still in the COVID-esque era so you could do more remote. So it wasn't flying as much and traveling as much. It was, yeah, creating more basis for stillness, which is uncomfortable. It doesn't come naturally to me because when you love what you do, you can't, you don't always recognize burnout. It's easy when you have a job you hate. It's easy when you have a relationship.

you just like, you have such inner resistance towards it. I love what I get to do. I love being a part of people's health journey. I love talking about it on the podcast. So the underbelly of that burnout, you can still love what you do, but be burning the candle at both ends. So for me, it was just like saying no and being used with a different frequency, being used with a slower pace.

And I talk about like Jomo, finding Jomo, which is the antithesis of the fear of missing out. It's finding the joy of missing out. It's uncomfortable. but it's slowing down and finding that new pace and being consistent with it over time. And then there's practical things that I talked about in the book. Like journaling is a big part of nervous system regulation for me. EMDR was a big process for me. It still is.

And vagal nerve stimulation. Do you guys know about? We know about the vagus nerve and we've heard about vagal nerve simulation. But if there's a specific practice, you... Yeah. Well, there's different ways to do. I mean, humming, chanting. can help with gargling can help with vagal nerve simulation.

But what I'm talking about is that are devices that go on these auricular branches. I like the polsetto and the shift wave chair. Yeah. Those are the two things. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, pulsetto goes around the neck. And then there's one called Neuropod. It goes on the ear, these branches.

Which one do you like best? Pulsetto and Neuropod, I think, are doing innovative things. Do not take my polsetto. I don't even know we had one. Yes, we do. Where do you use it that he's not there? I do all kinds of things that he doesn't know about it. What the hell's going on? Why do I never get access to this stuff? Have you ever tried a shift wave chair?

Is it the white one that's like a shape? No, it's kind of it feels, sorry, Shiff Wave, but it feels kind of like almost like a like a lawn chair. Okay. But you get, sorry, it's a bad, would you get in and it's got all these different like vibrating stimulating things? And it's an it's a great product. I think I have probably probably. It shakes and does the thing. But it, but it kind of looks like that. Yes. I probably going to be like, listen. By the way, you need to do that chair. You're probably like terrible description, Michael. Listen, it is like a. It's like a. Incredible product. Turn off the lights and go on the chair. We do love it, but it kind of folds up and looks like a lawn chair. When he turns on the lights just so we can go back and just put a pin in this, I go in the room, I open the shades in this tiny room, and I put my red light on, and I do my shift wave. Let me let me shift this conversation along a little bit.

As you guys were writing this book, and with all the patients you have and Dr. Josh Axe has and also a friend of the show, is there one thing that you have, that you identified that is causing the most damage to our? cells? Is it a theme? Is it different for everybody? Is there a common thread? I would say it's looking at health histories and labs as long as I have. I would say there is different variables for everyone of these things that I mentioned. But I would say typically there's a physiological component to it, meaning something physical that you can measure directly on labs and then some mental, emotional, spiritual piece. But if I had to say, okay, the most common variable that's act that is definitely from a modernity standpoint, because our genetics haven't changed in thousands of years. So what has changed the most in a very finite period of time, and you're putting that

in context with human history, it's the environmental toxin piece, which is a very complex, messy topic because then people just get afraid and they just want to say, I give up and there's this fatalistic, oh, we're all going to die sometime. You don't have to be perfect, but you still need you don't want to stick your head in the sand either. The truth is oftentimes somewhere in the middle. It's being informed, being empowered, doing the best you can with, in this case, reducing toxic exposure, and then give the rest of God. Again, like stressing about this isn't good for your health. So, yeah, I would say looking at microplastics forever chemicals. What are specifics with the environmental factors? Like, I want you to get very granular with that. Yeah. So we have to

look at every room of your home. And as you can, as you have access to you, work with what's within your budget and again where you're at from a headspace standpoint because all of this is overwhelming. I'd rather you just be consistent with the things you're ready to and get some weeks and months and maybe even years, some under your belt. And the things that overwhelmed you today aren't going to overwhelm you. So you want because consistency is key. If you do something for two or three weeks and then stop and then go back because you just like nothing worked or I'm disillusioned.

You have this paralysis of analysis. It's not going to work. You know what kind of annoys me these days? Yeah. Then I want you to keep going. When we have someone like you on that's so knowledgeable that has the information, I get frustrated that these days we have to caveat everything. Right.

Let's make sure you're a budget. Let's make sure your environment. We understand it's not okay. We just need the information. And then the people online have to obviously go and do what they can do. This is called something. This is called something. I forgot what it's called.

But what I don't like is like, listen, And I need you to come on here and do your thing and give us this information because you have the information. And in a perfect world, everybody would be resourced well enough where they could do every single thing on your list. But we know that that's also not realistic, but I also still need the information. So maybe today I can't afford the crazy air filter. I can't afford this machine or that, but I still need the information. So I guess what I'm saying is I'm annoyed that you have to like just give me the information. And then yeah, people obviously do it within your means, like whatever you can.

There's a slogan for this. Someone tell me what it is. It's called like, why is the soup not? And there'll be a recipe for soup that pops up on your feed. And there's a hundred comments of, well, what if you're gluten-free? Or what if you can't handle chicken? Or what if you're vegetarian? Or what if you don't like carrots? And the point of the slogan, I forgot what it is, is like, just keep scrolling. Because there's like that soup recipe is not gluten-free. And it's not everything's for you. Not everything for you. I remember years ago, someone asked me what my, like, what my, like, health routine was. And I gave them all the things. I gave them all the things I was doing. And somebody wrote in, they're like, this is not related. It was not a table. I go, do you want me just lie and say, I just take lemon water and I just look this good genetically all the time doing that?

Like, what do you want me to do? I'm going to tell you the thing. Then you decide what's within your, your means. It's probably because I'm, I talk to people all day long. No, no, no. Give me a little shit. But I hear what you're saying because, but I, when I talk to people and I see their eyes glass over or they feel like they have.

have health fatigue. I'm like want to slow, I want to lower their guard up with just being like, I can't do it because their excuses are bigger than they're wise. I want them to know, hey, I'd rather you be consistent with a few than feel like you have to have it all figured out. Sure. And even when I still give those caveats, I'll be the what aboutisms of something else. By the way, it's the nice, courteous right thing to do with the caveats. I understand. But we have a real expert that has the information. And my whole thing is like, we just need the information. And of course, we're not all, we're not so delusional that we think we can do,

even us. We can't do every single thing, maybe all at once, but it's something to strive for and be aware of. What I don't like is like, we can't have people like yourself gate keep because you're worried about getting the information that you believe based on your research will work best for people. Yeah. It's not the weird time we live in though. It is so strange where it's like everyone thinks every content's about, owe me about them and they just are. I think it's a lack of discernment. It's a lack of, like,

we just want things spoon-fed to us and realize and say maybe just because someone else is doing, doesn't mean I don't have to do it. We're so pacified and weakened as far as our critical thinking skills and discernment. Yeah, we had an incredible cancer researcher on the show. It's all his whole career is like cancer research. And he was giving some advice on, from his perspective, if you could orchestrate the perfect diet and the things that would be the most beneficial to either ward off or fight cancer, what it would be. And he was talking, it was like, you know, you want to eat these kind of organic foods and you want to shop in these sections. You want to avoid these areas of the grocery.

This guy is like, all he's trying to do is get this mess up. People were acting like he was like, like, like the worst guy in the world. I'm like, guys, he's just getting, of course, it's not realistic all the time. But he's saying if in a perfect world, if he could prescribe. Yeah. That's what he would do. Do what you can. Yes.

And I'm like, guys, of course, like, you had to do what you can. But this guy is telling you in an ideal scenario that people have to be able to read between the lines. Pick a few things. Yes. So, yeah, with that said, I think that was actually a good call out. So I would say, look at kitchen, like the things you're using on a daily basis matter, the bioaccumulation of environmental toxins.

So like non-stick coated pans, the conventional ones, there's great non-toxic ones. But a single scratch of like teflon, non-stick pans, anything that's water resistant, basically, that's conventional can release over 9,000 plastic particles. That accumulates over time. So looking and swapping for natural non-toxic pans, cast iron skillets, I think that's a good start. Minimize the amount of plastics you're using in your home. And you're never going to be plastic free, but minimize it. And then the laundry detergents, the people that use in their home, the conventional ones are a source of endocrine disruption.

They create that cellular confusion with your nervous system and your endocrine system, your hormone system. And then, of course, beauty products. I mean, that's why women are exponentially more impacted by chronic health problems, specifically autoimmunity, which that cellular confusion is the most obvious with autoimmunity from the immune systems attacking certain parts of the body. So looking at cleaner, less toxic personal care and beauty products. So that's a good start, getting a water filter, getting an air filter like Jasper over there. So I think that's what you need to do. What is the Dr. Will Cole approved pan and what is, what are you using for your detergent?

And what are you using for your skin? Give us your product list. Wow. Okay. The pans that we use in our home is our place. They're great. Kara is another great brand too. I like both.

They're both good thing. But our place is what I typically use. And we use a lot of cast iron skillets, too. Detergent? We use the, my wife's going to kill me. She's like, she buys all this stuff. It is Branch Basics. Okay.

Branch Basics. Love them. Amazing people. Sorry. Again, brand names. Branch basics do an amazing thing. And then skincare, I kind of alternate, but it's an inside out job. It starts with food and nutrient density. So polyphenols, healthy fats, clean protein. That is where you start with clear skin. But I honestly, I have so many friends in the space that I kind of alternate and whatever they send me. I go in between Agent Nitor, which I formulated Holy May and Holy Radiance for Jenna. And other things we're working on. I love Tina Chen Craig, you know. Yeah, of course. You beauty. I love you beauty stuff. We love you.

I love Dr. Barbara Stern. I mean, so I kind of rotate between these powerhouse women who I all know and love and kind of mix and match with that. And they tell me what to do and I just do what they tell me to do. Are you having a cocktail? No. Never. Never. Never.

Never. Mocktails. But I don't drink alcohol. You don't like it. Well, it doesn't love me back. Uh-huh. So it's like a, I know I'm going to lose friends here, but it's like it, it's not a puritanical judgment thing.

It's just, there's so many other options that things that I love that I don't, like something that's going to, it's like a bad tradeoff. It's something that's going to make me not feel great the next day. So for me, it's just, I did when I was younger, but it's just not a part of my life anymore. But I like that answer because I, again, I think if that's for you and you've got to that place and like you're in it and you can go and enjoy and be social and have time without that, like, great.

What I don't like is like when people are like, hey, a glass of wine is going to kill you and ruin your life, right? Like that drives me nuts. But if you don't like it for you, who cares? Yeah, I don't like it for me. I mean, the research is clear that the healthiest amount of alcohol is none. Of course. But you, if it's some people can have a healthy relationship with it and it's a few times a year, it's not a lot. You know, I look at their labs and they're just fine.

So to pathologize and dramatize, everything's very exhausting. And again, stressing about the thing is sometimes worse. than the thing. Let's talk about stress and that was going to be the next thing I wanted to jump to chronic stress. What's it actually doing to ourselves? What's it doing inside of us? Because to your point, maybe you are not partaking in alcohol, but you're an absolute stress case that can't manage. Yeah, which is the argument that people have. And I talk about the research of how even small amounts of alcohol can impact cellular stress. It's a neurotoxone. It'll impact your nervous system cells. People will say, well, what if you're super stressed? What if you, like what's stress going to do? And there

is an argument, look, people can come at me in the comments, but you could make an argument that's sort of micro-dosing alcohol, it's a small part of your life, you're doing so many other good things, that there may be a hermetic effect with alcohol, meaning it's like the dose makes the poison and the dose makes the medicine. That's like very like Marxist and talks about that. Oh, okay, he does, okay. And we know polyphenols are xenohrometic in general, like things like from grapes and was varitrol, like the bright colors and the bitterness of certain plant foods help with cellular

repair. So there is a place for that. If it's organic, biodynamic, regenerative. But your question was, what does stress do? Yeah, stress, unrelated to alcohol. Stress, it's one of those things on the psychological side that's going to activate that cell danger response. Your cell membrane, which is the interface with the rest of life itself, life happens on the cell membrane. That's where the receptor sites are, which are the communication tools to other cells and hormones and neurotransmitters. It is another component. Stress is another component that's going to activate that cell danger response or make your cells feel unsafe. So that oxidation, that rigidity of the cell membrane creates a problem, that cascade a problem,

because the good nutrients can't get in the cell as efficiently. And the byproducts of energy, ATP from the mitochondria can't get out because of the rigidity of the cell membrane or the oxidation becomes less permeable. So as many people that are stressed can have things like constipation because their body's in fight or flight stress state, they're wired and tired, anxious and exhausted, they don't even realize it. Their body's holding on to things. Actually, that's happening on a cellular level. There's cellular constipation because mitochondria are releasing these reactive of oxygen species because the body's stress for mental emotional reasons or physiological reasons. It can't tell the difference. And the cell becomes more stressed. And then on top of that,

when you have excess cortisol and excess adrenaline, these fight or flight freeze, fawn, hypervigilin, sympathetic neurotransmitters, that breakdown of those neurotransmitters and hormones added stress as well. And all of that puts the body, when the body's in fight or flight, it decreases vagal tone back to that vagal nerve stimulation. When you have decreased vagal tone, that resting, digesting, peristelis, that wave-like motion from the gut and the brain, that bi-directional relationship between the gut and the brain, bacteria will grow from the small intestines into the small intestines. So a lot of people have dysbiosis or small intestine or bacterial overgrowth.

That will cause leaky gut syndrome, which will cause systemic inflammation. That's all from stress. Why are some people looking for stress? Like, why are there some people that have an intensity about them when it comes to stress? You mean they almost? They almost like, it's like a saber tooth tiger. Yeah, I think just because something's common, they've normalized it. Some people's their nervous systems bent towards what's normal.

I think that's probably part of it. And we're so conditioned for that hustle culture. I think upbringing too, depending on the environment. We go towards what's familiar. I have every telehealth patient fill out an A-Sk. and adverse childhood experiences. And it's looking at things like that stress. What was their home life growing up?

A score of just four, which isn't even that high, exponentially 10, 15x, depending on the study that you cite, increased risk of autoimmune problems, metabolic problems, meant trouble losing weight. What's the scale go to? I mean, it could be exponentially high, depending on the type of A score it is, but 15, 20. I've seen it pretty high.

Depending on how many yeses you get. I don't know the exact number of how high it could be, the highest highest. but pretty dang eye. Can you do one of those tests? Just like, just see them? Maybe I'll get one from you. Yeah, yeah, you just feel like, you just check.

It's a questionnaire. It's very, very well, it's utilized in conventional medicine and functional medicine, very curiously. What kind of questions is it asked? So was there sexual abuse growing up? Like, heavy stuff. Sexual abuse growing up, physical abuse growing up, neglect growing up. Was there substance abuse in the home growing up?

What was your parents' relationship growing up? these are some of the top things. And just saying yes to a few of those increases the likelihood. Those first few years of somebody's life determines that their relationship on a silly level in many ways with life itself at the present moment.

And also being busy and stressed distracts you from the present moment. So it's like people are so, those are typically the people, the people that are so hell bent on go, go, go, go, go. They're the people that typically say, well, meditation's not for me. And they're typically the people

that need to meditate the most. They like to turn the light super bright in the morning. I was just reading a whole. Her name rhymes with Lichael. Lichael Bostic. Theses on people who are hyper aroused and hypo aroused. And they're different. And I would think that that has a lot. And this is Lauren science to do with yourselves. Is that true? Yeah. Well, I would say that hypervigilance, yeah, that sort of conditioning to be in that hypervigilant resonance, the parasympathetic is taking the backseat in a lot of different people. And for a lot of people, it is that mental, emotional, spiritual stuff that I will say also informs the physiological, meaning if they're stress and have unresolved trauma, they're going to

do self-sabotaging behaviors, like with food and exercise and all the things. If you, though, had been in your hyper aroused state before 2023 and your wife had been like, you need to calm down, like you need to meditate. What would your response have been then and what is it now? That's a good question. I mean, I would have said historically that I was doing it. I just wasn't doing it enough. I feel like you've always been pretty chill. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm one of those people that I seem chill, but I have like a lot of nervous. Yeah. I can you're you're you have. That's true. You got a lot going on. You have a high expectation of self. Yeah. So I would have say, What number of book is this?

Fifth. Yeah. This is like an over a gig. What are you feeling over there? Yeah. Fifth book. Fifth book. I'll be doing the art of being well for five years, two episodes a week.

And again, I love all this stuff. And your practice and your speaking gigs. Yeah. See, patients 10 hours a day. Two kids. Yeah. Wife. 21 years, Mary, 21 years.

We're just talking about that. Your wife, that will get you the most. Yeah. So what's the difference between you then and you now if your wife was to tell you something? You're saying if she, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have listened to her when I wasn't ready for it. I would say I'm already doing it. I'm already doing it.

But I didn't have ears to hear. She saw it before I saw it. She saw it before I saw it for sure. It's not the case. So in most cases. And now that you've acknowledged this, what is her energy towards it? She's happy. She's happy that I'm prioritizing that parasympathetic more.

Yeah, I think it makes her happy. is when you love somebody and you see, okay, yeah, they love what they do, but they're burning themselves out. This is not sustainable. And there's not a change of course. Like you can't want it more than they do. And again, I'm great at giving advice sometimes. And I was doing all the wellness stuff, the basic stuff, but I wasn't looking at these dark corners. We all need to find these dark corners that are making ourselves feel. Outside of the environmental stuff, which we've talked about and we all talk about a lot, what are things that people are doing? You mentioned millennials are the fastest aging generation a long time. What are things that we're all doing that are

aging us the fastest based on what you guys have looked at? Is it certain behaviors, is certain foods? Is it certain, you know, what is it? Yeah, I would say the foods are a big part. The environmental toxin piece, we talked about that. Food is definitely another common common. If you're looking at the low hanging fruits of what I see most often, most people, it's going to be the stress trauma piece, spiritual disconnection, which that's another one that like people shouldn't sleep on. I really feel like on an individual basis and a larger societal basis, our collective relationship with God is an important thing. It informs a lot of things. And the science shows that, too, people that have of regular faith practice tend to have lower high sensitivity C-reactive protein levels. It tend to have

lower mortality risks, which is kind of controversial to say it in some cases, but it's just true. I have a better day when I listen to things like Dr. Wayne Dyer. It changes this. day. It does. Yeah. It's because it's shifting this whole state. If I have a spiritual practice in the day, the day is better. Yeah. So prayer, gratitude. Have you guys had Dr. Lisa Miller on Columbia? You need to have her on. She talks about this resilience that people that have a faith practice have. Resilience is what the world is lacking. There's a guy named Patrick Bet David. Do you know who this? You know, you know Patrick. Yeah. And I watched a clip from him one time and he was talking about spirituality, religion, just in general. And I think he was saying, again,

like this, if I'm butchering this, like, in a piece of this clip, but he was basically saying, like, maybe he was a non-believer or wasn't, no, maybe not that. Maybe he wasn't as connected to spirituality. But then he, like, started going through his life. He said, life is so hard. You know, being an entrepreneur is so hard. The chips are stacked so against you from an odds perspective, just in life in general. And he's like, it makes so much sense to just take all the help you can get. And it's when he said that, it resonated with me. I'm like, yeah, like, what is the downside of having a faith-based mindset, whatever your religion or practice may be? Because it's all so hard taking every advantage. Like, why not? Yeah. And I think, like, even if you're

someone who's resistant to religion or faith or whatever, like, if you think about it from that perspective, it's just like, why not just stack the deck as much as you can and get as much support as you can? Yeah. That's how I think about it. Well, 100%. Yeah. There was a Harvard study that found that people that had a faith practice had a 33% decreased risk of dying over a 16-year period. I mean, there's study after study. And yes, it's correlative. We don't, there's, a lot of this stuff is mystery. But it's making the cells feel safer, I think is a major part of that. Even getting out in nature, I say, I call it God art. It's like, get around the ineffable, the majesty, the wonder. It's not all about you. Get out of your sort of self-obsessed

world that our social media feeds that sort of dopaminergic cheap dopamine head get out and like wonder is medicine and and moving your body and the research does show that i mean that's not religion but that is god's creation in my opinion of this research out of japan in south korea of shinman yoku and forest bathing and using nature as a medicine and meditation and we know the mechanisms like it's the frequency from the earth it can sound we woo-woo but it's not it's god made non-polarized EMF that the makes. It actually tells ourselves to be in more frequency with nature. This is why I want my kids to go on a walk every morning. Thank you, Dr. Will. You're changing my mornings. Resilience is what the world is lacking, you just said. Can you elaborate on that? Yeah. We're addicted to being,

we are as a culture addicted to cheap dopamine hits and being offended and these sort of siloed and the algorithm feeds that, the sort of confirmation bias that happens. And we're so fragile. We're so fragile and when we hear other people that maybe have a different opinion of us, many people, especially people that claim to be the most tolerant and the most progressive are the biggest bullies on social media. And I think that exists in many camps online and in real life. We're lacking resilience. It's okay to hear, even like we said about that caveat that I had to give earlier, like it's okay to hear information and have discernment and critical things. to know, yeah, it's maybe good for somebody else that's not good for me. But we just get so

rattled and make everything about us. We've become so patholic, you know, so egoic. Yeah, I mean, I think if you're an individual spending your time trying to tear somebody else down that's a stranger online, you have to at that point pause and take a look at your life and say, what am I doing? Yeah. It's, one, it's not productive for you. Two, it's not a kind thing to do. And three, if that's where all of your interests are going or where you're spending your time, you're just holding yourself back. Because I promise you nobody who's winning in life is taking any time to do anything like that. I've never met anyone on this show or somebody who is happy in life or that is doing well in

life with their family or their friends or their business that is spending time trying to tear down other people. It just doesn't happen. I've met a lot of miserable, successful people that do that, but I've never met a happy person. Yeah. That's what I mean. that's what I'm getting out in nature, having a spiritual connection, you're way less likely to, and I'm not saying just wrote religiosity. We know really mean religious people,

but I'm saying deep, a spiritual connection to God and to people around you and treat other people the way that you want to be treated. It'd be really hard to come out somebody in the comment section on social media. So I think there's a lack of resilience in our culture for sure because of all of these things. When I look at labs, I can understand why. We are dysregulated as a culture. and hurt people, hurt people as the cliche goes, disregulated people act out on that dysregulation. Have you ever tried cranial sacral? I haven't.

I wanted to. It's on my bucket list. Some people come on this show and I just, it comes up. And this one, I feel like you would love cranial sacral. Have you done it? I'm obsessed with it.

Have you done it? I've done it. I like it. Yeah. She gets a, what I've been told is, what is it with me? I'm a little bit more.

He is locked off. So cranial sacral is where your body, she just, or he touches your body and your body heals itself. So it's not like a practitioner doing body work where they're the healer. It's your body healing itself. I've done similar things like Reiki and energy. I like it's similar. It's similar.

Yeah, I've done Reiki before. It's similar. I think that you should try it. I'll try it out. We should do it. I feel like, I don't know how long you're here for, but. I leave tomorrow. Okay.

Well, next time you're here. We have a good recommendation. And you let me know. Yeah. Because I feel like you would really appreciate it, especially with all the spirituality that you've been talking about. And I find it to be very, very helpful. It's my kids love it. Yeah.

It's very spiritual. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Energy work is a great tool. Acupuncture. Fantastic. All that stuff.

It's all parasympathetic. It's all connected to your body. I notice like a huge difference in my body when I do it. But it seems like very related to the things that you're talking about, which is vagus nerve, et cetera. This episode is brought to you by SoFi's small business loan. You know SoFi, the one that helps you get your money right with student loan refinancing and high-yield savings accounts. Now they're helping small businesses find fast funding.

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communicate via electricity. Why are people so resistant to talking about EMF? I don't know. I think it's back to that probably that caveat. People are just like, we're screwed and and it's always, you know, it's, I think sometimes the nuance and context can be lost with like short clips. So then things could take it out of context. And then people over correct either way. Our next show is going to be called taking out of context. Yeah. I mean, listen, people take it. And then they just shut down. They just burn out and shut down. It's a real, it's a real conversation. Well, listen, this is we've been taught, who knows, like, Trump in an hour. Somebody will find something for 30 seconds and say, these people are

destroying the world. Right. Like, that's what will happen. How do you protect yourselves from EMF? Yeah. So some basic things that I, that I, I do that we recommend are our patients. And you can go, you can go to the level that you want to, right, lean into this stuff. I have EMF block, like a somavidic, EMF harmonizer. You have that in your room, the silver one. Yeah, mine's green, I think. Yeah. I have the soma Vedic. I have the, um, the Lila quantum devices that are, you've been in. Is that the like the gold looking thing? Yeah, you put the stuff in them. Where you go to like sunlife organic. You know that.

Yeah. Yeah. They have them in there. So these are mild EMF. I think Khalil lives in one of those things. Like a human size. Kalil definitely lives in the Lila Quantum for sure. So these are mild ways.

The bigger guns are going to be not sleeping with your phone at night. It's all about night. That's when your cells are rejuvenating. There's a topogy, metapagy. So sleep with your phone outside of the room or turn it off. You don't do it? No, I do. We do.

I'm so happy. I'm so happy to have this conversation. Okay. I think it's one of the most important things you can do. 100%. And you should, you can put those EMF lockers underneath your bed. The best way to shut out down the EMFs is a Faraday cage. You just turn it off at night?

Well, it's a Faraday cage is kind of like it looks like a mosquito net. Oh, that goes around your bed. I'd do it if Michael would let me. I would do a mosquito net. It's not actually a mosquito net, but it looks like a mosquito bed. It's, yeah, but it's not a Faraday cage. sounds like I'm going to sleep in a cage now. But it's more of like a net.

They need to rebrand it. Those headlines Dr. Will tells us to sleep in a cage. Yeah, night every night I crawl down. I lock myself in my basement and dig a hole and then hide in there. Yeah, I put a hat on and I just stay down there until. Someone came on the show. I think it was Dr. Pampa.

And he said, I talk about him in the book. He was my dad's best friend. Oh, wow. I have no, we want to know the background of Dr. Pomp. I talked about him about it because he went through his own healing journey. I've known him since the 80s. Yeah. He was a trainer in my dad's gold gym.

Because your dad was a bodybuilder. My dad was a bodybuilder. We talked about this before. Yeah. So Dan was my dad's best friend. He was a trainer. And that's how he got Dan got into the health space. It was my dad.

Wow. You've got to have him on your show if you have not. Oh, yeah. We're trying to make it happen. He lives in Utah now. But he's from Pennsylvania where I'm from. He's great on a mic. He told me, I think it was him, to put shangite.

Oh, yes. In the house. So Michael doesn't know. this, but in the drawers in our beds, we have drawers like in the bed. I have all these shangai rocks, shug night, shunggai, yeah, rocks, and then downstairs by all the electricity. I have a huge crystal. And then Michael also doesn't know this. I drop it into his water. Yeah, I put it in his like, not your water bottle, like your aminos, like a big rock. Oh, that's the thing. I always thought that was just shaking around my stuff breaking up. And so.

apparently. Yeah, crystals, certain crystals have some. It absorbs EMF. And I, that's another one I didn't think about. Yeah, we have crystals around the house too. Are you into that? Yeah, from my EMF blocking. I consider them God art as well as like the way that bringing nature into your home in general. That's why even just talk about EMF mitigation, it's getting out nature. Like connecting, putting your feet in the grass, jumping in the water is one of the best ways, like a natural body of water if you have access to it. And then if you can, turn off your electricity to your room, like with the breaker. If it doesn't, if it's not attached to like a fridge or something you need to keep on through at night, like it's not just about the 5G and the Wi-Fi.

Turn off your Wi-Fi at night. Like that's a non-negotiable. Everyone should be turning off your Wi-Fi. Just a kill switch? Yeah. Can you get me one of those for our anniversary? I want a kill switch. And the electricity is wild.

We had Ryan from Test My Home coming to our house and test the house. and he said, watch this. And he turned all the electricity off in my home. And you immediately feel a shift in your nervous system. It's insane. And I think to have the electricity off when I'm sleeping just sounds like a dream. Well, listen, I think like, again, I just think from a nervous regulation perspective, if we're talking about stress in general, what happens is you normalize symptoms.

Like, I think we can all agree that we are becoming sicker as a population. every, that's why you have all these chronic diseases happening younger and younger, people getting sicker and sicker, bigger and bigger. Everyone knows that that's happening. Yeah. So now the question that is like, and what people don't agree on is how that's happening. Yeah.

We've talked about environmental toxins. We've talked about food. We've talked about, um, all the things we've talked to stress and trauma. But like, you know, if the environment is part of this and why, you know, it's so foreign because it's hard to measure. Like you don't, like, you know, Wi-Fi is on. It's not burning my skin right now. You don't see a physical thing happening right now.

That doesn't mean that there's not. something that's ticking away at you on a regular basis. The other thing is, is we're so disconnected from just living without these things, being in nature, without electronics, being around, that you're just, this is the new norm that we all live in. And you can't really feel that or figure that out until you leave these environments and go into those places. That's why a lot of people are drawn to that. But if you're a city dweller, or you've been in an office a long time, or you've been in an environment like this your whole life, it's almost like you just, you don't know until you, until you it's like don't knock it until you try it type thing right so i'm never resistant to

these things because what i've realized is if you would go back 25 years and say that these pesticides and herbicides are not good for us people will look at you like you were nuts if you would go back to our parents generation speaking to millennials and said hey red five and all these dyes and all these things artificial flavors and our food is bad first people to look at you like you are nuts right like we've come a long way we now know that these things are harmful i think that this conversation is just going to be another one of those conversations that 20 years and all people were like, yeah, that wasn't that great. And you had to mitigate it. And flexibility of the mind is a sign of intelligence. So just because something was true yesterday doesn't mean it's not worth looking into

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not being on it first thing in the morning, allowing this buffer time. But I am on my phone a lot. I am. And I think maybe that just is good for people to hear that people that are in wellness. it's like you don't we're not perfect in all the areas well that's what i was saying early on it's like i really do look at the stuff like if i can be good and disciplined the majority of the time yeah then i can slip or indulge here and there and be okay i think the problem is a lot of the times we we live in a way where we're not kind to our bodies for the majority of the time and then when you do the bad things then it really has a cascading effect right like yeah if you're if you're taking care of your body, you're not sleeping white, you're chronically stressed, you're eating

shitty foods, and then you're out on the weekends, parting, and drinking and doing things, like, that's not good. Yeah. But if you're consistent most of the time, it's like, okay, fine. Yeah. I will say one thing is that maybe it's relative. I feel like I'm on my phone a lot, but when you're busy, busyness will do a lot for you not to be on your phone. So when you're seeing patients all day long and doing podcasts, you're not on your phone. So there's big chunks a day where I can't be because I'm scheduled. But I'm looking at a screen because I'm in telehealth. So is that my phone?

Yeah, partly it is. I'm in telehealth. So I'm on a screen a lot. But it's for work. Before you go, I would love for you to tell the audience, if there's someone listening that feels 10 years older than they are, what should they look at? What are the things they can find in this book

that would really help them feel their age or younger? I would start with, well, we're 70, percent of the immune system is in your gut. So if you're looking at, okay, where the heck do I start? The gut is, it's more specifically the cells of the gut lining, which is like one cell thick. It's very thin. It's very easily, the cells of the gut, the gastrointestinal system are very easily stressed. So that seminal event of leaky gut syndrome, things passing through the gut cells that shouldn't be able to pass through the gut cells, that's happening in a lot of people. So the more you can create the sort of cellular siesta in the gut and calm a stressed out gut.

So things like soups and stews are one of the best first things people can do because that's where inflammation is a product of the immune system. That is a big contributing factor to these hallmarks of aging. So do some brothing and souping. Most people tolerate it really well. Bone broth based soups and stews. Little bone broth. Oh, bone broth clip.

Here we go. Borexie bone broth all day long. I'm going to put that. If you just eat bone broth for one year straight, I'm just kidding, don't put that in there. Actually put it in. Keep it in. Let's see if we can get another clip going. It all comes back to bone broth. This episode is brought to you by bone broth. No, actually it's not. So I think these ancient foods, I mean, look, when people are sick, the chicken, the chicken noodle soup, it's not the noodles that people that got healthy from. It's the broths, it's the soups, it's easy to digest. And then I would say these compounds that I love, we talk about cellular repair of xenohormesis, which I talked about earlier.

But they're plants that went through tough times in their life. Like think of like a pungent extra virgin olive oil, kind of a bitter extra virgin olive oil, or like a bright, deep colored pomegranate or berries. Or teas like puera, ulong tea, green tea, black tea, or cow even, like a chocolate. Herbs and spices like rosemary, thyme, basil, bright colors of turmeric. The brightness and the bitterness are compounds, like polyphenol compounds and sulfur compounds, that the plant makes to defend itself because it went through a tough time. So the cells of the plant teach ourselves to be more resilient, factor resilience, actually help upregulate these cellular repair mechanisms like autophagy.

What's the one with the Z? X. What's that? It's an X. It's like X. X. that create a hermetic effect. And what kind of plants are these?

So those... Baisal? Herbs and spices, any herbs and spice. Colorful ones, the bitter ones. Bitter ones. Pomeranids, blackberries, blueberries, can you cook them? Depending on what you're using.

Like if I'm making a bone broth. You're not going to ruin the compounds. Got it. That's so, I can throw basil in it. And actually will make them more bioavailable. Oh. Because a lot of the fibers and plant antinutrients can actually lock up some of these.

So cooking them within reason is going to help make them more. available because remember you aren't just what you eat or supplement with you are what you absorb and by properly preparing things in soups and stews you actually can help with them be absorbed better heal yourselves dr will cole and dr josh axe thank you for coming back on the show you're a wealth of knowledge thanks guys fourth time check out the other episodes too guys where can we find your book and your podcast thanks guys i really appreciate you for your years of support and kindness and honestly you guys know what it's like to have a book come out and yeah i appreciate you

having me back. Everything's at Dr. Wilcoll.com. The links to the book, just head to books. The podcast is called The Art of Being Well. Just head to podcast for that.

And I put tons of free resources. I've been writing for 15 years about different health topics. So just use the search engine there. Yeah, it's all there. New York Times bestselling author. I'm manifesting that for this one. Dr.

Will Cole. Thank you, man. Thanks, guys. Love you guys.