The Bossticks - Girls Gotta Eat Ft. Ashley Hesseltine & Rayna Greenberg On Sex, Relationships, Dating, & Life

Episode Date: December 8, 2022

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I'm not giving myself a pity party. I can very much understand that I am not what a lot of men may want. Like, I know that I'm not undesirable, but I know that I'm undesirable to some people, and that's fine. We hear from women all the time. Are men intimidated by my success, my money? Maybe. But what's the alternative? Yes, your dating pool does get smaller.

Of course, as you get more successful, you make more money. Of course, there's going to be people in the world that don't like it and don't want to date you or feel really emasculated by you. But what's the alternative? Don't be successful. Welcome back, everybody. Welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her show today. Girls Gotta Eat. Or at least we're interviewing the girls from girls got to eat, both Raina and Ashley. This episode's been a long time coming. We've been wanting to do a swap with these two for a while. They have a wildly popular show called Girls Gotta Eat, which is top comedy podcast about dating, sex, relationships hosted by Ashley and Raina. And we dive into all of it today, guys, dating, sex, all the things. It's a different episode for Lauren and I, but we love going into these topics and we love talking. to people that can hold their own on a mic, which these two definitely can. Definitely check out the episode that we just did with them on their show. That episode, I believe, released

this Monday and obviously this one today. So again, had a great time swapping with these two. We don't do that many swaps. When we do, we make sure we do it with the right people. Girls got to eat. Welcome to the Skinny Competential, him and her show. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Let me introduce you to my old friends, Raina and Ashley here. We're old old friends. I was around early early days girls got to eat like I you know beginning like when it was just blossoming I yeah I have heard about your podcast all the time all the time I have I hear about your podcast everywhere it's you guys have really done a good job about getting yourself out there on the map I was a fan before there were fans but I was there day one he was the original fan I just want to put that out there

patient zero yeah okay all right it's kind of dicey calling me patient zero these days but you know people know what we mean yeah let's go back to when you guys decided to launch a podcast, what's the story there? Was it something that you guys just decided on a drunken night? Was it more strategic? I thought you were going to ask about the time we met Michael because we're a laparabia. What if we're like, yeah, it was a drunken night. We all got together. We all actually created girls got to eat. We never know. We can't do anything without a man. Yeah. You know who else has got to eat men, but we'll get into that later. Yeah. Don't worry. We still got a few hours. I'm not hypo yet. I have a sweet cream salad across

Do you get angry? Do I get hangary? Oh, I'm not talking about eat food, but yeah. You got it. Okay. Yeah. So we came up with basically, we've been asked this a lot, so we kind of know who shares the story.

I'm the one that shares our origin story. But we met in 2017 on this press trip and Aruba, like an influencer trip. And that's the first time we met. I had had an idea to do a podcast. I've been doing a lot of things in that area. I did, I do stand-up comedy. I'd done some like TV radio. That was the next thing that I want to do in my career.

and I wanted to do it with a woman. And I was like, who's this perfect person to do this? It's going to be really open about their life. I knew I wanted it to be a podcast about dating and relationships and sex that was also comedic. So I meet Raina on this trip and we hit it off right away. I had been kind of dealing with like a breakup-ish type situation. I kind of went into this trip in a dark place and met Raina the first night. And we came back from this trip and became real life friends in New York.

And when I asked her if she would be interested in doing it, a podcast. It was the end of the year, you know, like December 2017. I was like, I got to figure this out before the new year. This is my goal, at least to figure out what direction this is going, who I might do this with. And so I just fired off a text that was like, would you be interested in starting a podcast? And she said, yes, immediately. And I asked, are you open sharing about your like sex life and stuff? Because some people are like, I don't know. My parents could hear it. They have a real job, you know, like a corporate job. And we both were kind of doing this influencer thing and figuring out what our next move was. So it was perfect timing for both of us.

And she again said yes immediately. And we started having like coffee meetings and discussing it. And then we launched in February 2018. But it's interesting because we really didn't know each other that well. And we had hung out on the trip, but maybe even three times after that. And we were kind of when I got the idea to ask her, we were texting about some crazy date story or something. And I thought she was like so funny and living the same type of life as me in New York.

And that the rest is history. And we really took it seriously from day. and launched it as a brand and it took off. Yeah. Why do you think people are so careful about sharing their sex life or not, not sharing their sex life, but talking about sex. And why do you guys think you don't give a shit about your parents? Yeah.

Well, we are, we, we can't. So I got the parents thing out of the way. We have really supportive families. We're both more lucky, actually. Yeah, that everyone died ahead of, everyone died ahead of the podcast. Both of our families are incredibly supportive. They're in the front road, our live shows, watching me get stripped on.

My dad's, like, with an iPhone filming me while it happens. Like, they're so into it. Like, my dad will push through episodes. He'll listen to episodes called, like, How to Do Better But Stuff. And he'll call me and be like, the ad reads on that episode. We're so excellent this week.

Like, he wants to know where the money's coming from. How's the ad's doing? He really has so many business questions. We're just so lucky. Our families are so involved and they love it. And, of course, we both have brothers and fathers that don't listen to most of the episodes, but they're really open. And Ashley and I grew up and very, I would say pretty sex positive families. So that started, of course, our openness. And when we met, we were really

vetting each other, I think, about like, what are your friends like? What do you like to talk about? What is your dating life like? What do you open about? And do you have good relationships with people in your life? So I knew that she'd be fun and funny to talk about that stuff with. It's weird. I never paused for a moment and thought, you know, what if a million people hear this story about me having but sex. Like, what is that going to be like? And I don't know. I almost forget when we're recording. Like, I just want to make her laugh. And that's how we think the live shows are too. I just want to entertain her and tell her funny stories. And if other people enjoy it, that's great. But I've sort of thrown it out the window. Do I care about this? I'm embarrassed about

this. And I'm lucky to have grown up in a very sex positive environment that allows me to feel like that about sex. But sex is hard to talk about. It's weird. It's embarrassing. People are shamed for stuff. I find myself getting increasingly annoyed that people aren't more open about it. Like we had a hotel brand that we had partnered with for a long time that basically caught us off because of the sex content and the sex toy company. Hold on. A hotel is where you're going to fuck. And they had sex kits in the room. I'm not kidding. It was wild. We fucked in that hotel a lot. It was really upsetting. And like even I'm doing this brand partnership that I'm not going to say it because it's fine. But they are like don't allude to sex. But like the brand is

kind of it drives me crazy. Was it like you went too far with the topic? I haven't even done it. It was in their talking points of like we can't allude to sex. But I'm like, but also why would a brand work with you guys if they're, if you don't want you about sex? I mean, not like,

I'll explain it to you. We have a long history with this PR company and they've done a lot of really nice stuff for us. They were humiliated. The hotel group was humiliated. It's a guy at the top that was just like,

caught wind of, yeah. Yeah, our sex toy company. That's probably the freakest guy in the company. Totally. That's what I said. That guy definitely hired.

Anyone that is, that is really against it. It's, there's something. It's a red flag. Give us some tips. If you, if you are feeling like,

you're scared to talk about us, just go the other way and give us tips because you're freaky. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Someone's so against talking about it. Like I bet they have some great tips. Or if you're so, I always say that like guys, because I do stand up comedy. And every time I post a clip that's sex related, if it takes off if it's like in TikTok and it's getting like millions of views or hundreds of thousands of views, then it's no longer just my followers who love me that are seeing. And it's a bunch of dudes that are so upset that women, A, A, have the audacist. you do stand-up comedy and B talk about sex. And you see it. Any female clip that's taken off on any social media, there's a bunch of guys in the comments,

all women's talking about sex. All female comics. They're like so mad about it. And I'm like, you have not been laid in so long. Like, you're so mad that women are talking about this because you're probably so frustrated in your own sex life. You know, like I think there's always an underlying thing of why people are mad about sex. 100%.

They're deflecting their own insecurity of not getting. laid onto you. Yeah. I mean, I can imagine that your TikTok comments are absolutely

wild because people just don't give a fuck. They will say what they want to say, especially from men with what you guys talk about. We're pretty lucky. And TikTok tends to be a less nice place on the internet.

It depends on if it goes crazy. And so it's like, if it's just our followers who are seeing our content, they love it. Right now our YouTube comments are really wonderful because they're just...

It's the people that are there for you. But when things go viral, some man is so mad that this woman is in his feed talking about sex. You know, like, he's like a keyboard worried, like, so angry. Imagine having time to be pissed up. What a, what a, how great is it that you have time to be mad about that? I am so busy all day, every day. Ashley is so busy. And on top of that, I'm trying to have relationships. I'm trying to get late.

I'm doing all these things. I never see something on the internet that is just like a passing thing and stop my date or something hateful. to a stranger. Here I am a man just trying to day trade cryptocurrencies and you come in with your bullshit sex conversation and fuck up my whole day. I don't get how anyone has the audacity or time to write. It comes

down to time really. Yes. What a privilege of time. I mean, is it in your calendar? Like, write something rude on someone's TikTok. I don't understand how anyone can take away from their like I only have so much energy. I only have the capacity to do so much. I just, I don't understand it. How, we're right, right and I saw this all the time. Like, how do you not, it's like, you see something on the internet that you don't like, you just keep it. Like, we would

just keep it moving. Like, I didn't like that. I don't need to tell the creator, I didn't like that. Like, unless it's some deeply offensive in some way and you're like, I feel like I need to stand up for this. What is? Where's the fine line? I'll tell you where the line is. Someone got mad at me. I can't even, I'll tell you off there. Someone got mad at me about something the other day. I was like, we've lost the plot. I'll text at you. Yeah, yeah. It's honestly like you can't even, you can't even exist. Yeah. We'll talk after.

I feel like we have a lot. Now I want to hear this. Yeah. I troll Tristan Thompson. Oh, you did. Oh, look at this. That's the line. I troll him a little.

What did you say? Be real. I see your best friend trolling. Like, she has a secret life. It's the top comment. Like, I don't just troll him. I troll like articles about him. Like, when E-News writes about him, I'm like the first person in the comments.

He pissed a lot of women off. really pissed me off. You're angry about how, obviously, how he cheated multiple times and then ended up having a baby with someone else. I feel like very, I have a very open view of monogamy and cheating. I don't think it's ever this black and white thing. But what he did is so duplicative. It is so unfair and public and humiliating to his partner who doesn't seem to have an open view about monogamy. She wants to have a monogamous relationship with this man that she's children with. And he is humiliating her in public. This like seven foot man getting jerked off in a club.

You couldn't just do this in private. You got to do this outside or people can film it. I think that... Tony did. I think part of the thing that gets some of these people off, though, is the idea that there could be voyers looking in. I think that that is part of the high and the chase. Do you know what I mean?

Like, I think he gets off on like, could I be photographed? He has to, right? Yeah. He could hide it very easily. is all the money and the means to hide it. Yeah, I think that there is certainly a level also of knowing, which is this falls on your partner of knowing you can really get away with everything. And obviously they have a family.

We don't know these people also. Rain and I say this all the time. Like here we are making assumptions about complete strangers that all we see is what we see on their edited TV show or their articles that, you know, so we really don't know. But yeah, and we're fans of Chloe. So we always, we always, we just feel like it. I'm in a manifest for Chloe right now that she's going to find the perfect. person. I want that for her. I just love her. She's funny. I just, she's my face. She's fabulous. Sometimes I feel like I'm a boring person that I don't have the audacity to go get jerked off in a

club in public. You are really boring. You don't want to do that. I mean, you could spice it up with me. I like, I mean, like, you've been together a long time more. What if I was like, what if I was like, just to get it like a spicy again? I was like, hey, like, you read a headline. No one's going to jack you off like I can. Let me tell you something. No one is going to jack you off or give you a blow job like I can. So you you go see what else is out there. I'll be over here with my mouth and my hand. By the way, new lips G.S.Ls from Dr. Dentis Cross. Wouldn't that be a plot

twist though to be like read a headline and be like, there he is getting jerked off in the club and be like that's new. I haven't seen nothing. She's like I did it for press. I did it for us. I did it for you. It would be so funny. It's like you know, the founder of dear media. It's like the first time it's like not an it's like this. I mean I would love

to see it. I mean, I would you guys both agree. I can do a forgiveness to her. I kind of like want him to see. like what else is out there. Like go go go on a date. I missed all the dating apps. I missed all the I missed all the I missed everything. How have you been together?

600 years. Well yeah before time even existed. The land before time. No, we got together when I was 20 and 36 now. No, we got together when we were 12 and we broke up at 15 but we're not talking about. Are you going to talk about this on your kids? Yeah, we're going to talk about this. This is all we're talking about on my podcast.

We weren't together that whole time. I know. But it's a better story. It's really special. I know you guys had a long relationship, but I want to talk about this on our show. It's special, but it's not as house on the prairie as it sounds. You know what I mean? I think a lot of people are like, oh, that's so sweet.

No, I know what I mean? There's something really cool that you met when you were kids. Like, that's really, you guys can, we can talk about it on your point. I mean, I love her, but honestly, I just, I really don't like meeting a lot of new people. I just, it's a lot of effort. It's a lot of stress. Yeah. I like to keep it tight.

And, you know, it's too much. You know the four people you need to know and you're just done. It's so funny. I'm going to marry that girl in that when I was 12. Girls got to eat. Okay. Why is it called that? I mean, I have my own ideas of why it's called that, but why?

So again, I'll take this one. No, I came up with it as like the phrase of that can be interpreted in different ways. You know, I feel like I spent 10 years where I lived in the South. I feel like that phrase the girls got to eat in the South is like, you got to go out with that guy to get a meal and like put up with this dumb shit. I think that it can mean like girls got to get laid. girl's got to get her money, get her bag, that kind of thing. But however you want interpreted, I think that we're awesome in this age where, like, the word eat is meaning like excelling at something like, oh, he ate, she ate.

I didn't really think about it at that time. What I thought about more at the time was a play also of Raina's food blogging career. And I thought we might talk, I thought we might bring that into the conversation more. We talk about food all the time. People know that we love to eat. But it really didn't, we didn't leverage that. But she was this really great food blogger, food influencer. So that was part of it.

And I just think of things from a branding perspective. I thought of GGE. I thought of the way that it sounded. So I just remember I was like walking. I think I was like walking to the train shooting off a bunch of ideas to Raina. Like tell me if you hate these. And one, I remember her being like, Yikes, veto. And then girls got to eat.

I mean, I don't think I said more than five different title ideas and we landed on it. So when a girl's got to eat and they're in New York, what is that like dating? I can imagine that the dating, the dating situation. No food. What's happening in New York? Like, I want to know, because obviously I was in L.A. And now I'm in Austin. And I haven't, I haven't been single in a while.

What is the dating life really like? And don't. Oh, we're not going to sugarcoat it for you. Don't sugarcoat it. We would literally never do that. To me, it seems like with all these dating apps, it's slim pickens. I think that you could poll people and we have from every city in America in the world. And they tell you that, like, their city is the hardest.

They'll give you reasons why. Sure. And I understand that. So I have sympathy for that. My experience is dating in New York so I can speak to it the most. I think that, at least for me, you have this, like, land of the most high functioning, beautiful, smart, incredible, dynamic women in the world. All my friends are like that.

And I feel like men meet them and they're like, I could fuck this up because there's a, there's 10 of you on this block. Every woman we know works out, has all these friends, has a great job. It's just like killing it in life. And like, men don't need to hold on you because like there's a hundred of you in this neighborhood, you know? And I think that people in, of course, all large cities become. disposable. So that's the bad stuff. On the positive side of things, the things I like about dating in

New York is that you do have some of the best people in the world. You have some of the most interesting, cool, hot, fun people and the best stuff to do. So we have had really epic dates, but tons of guys that are fun, you stay out all night long. It's really such a good time. And you meet such different people in the world here. So yes, those are my pros and cons. The act of dating, the dates are great. To me, it's there's no better place. You run around, you go to a bunch of places. You can walk. It's walkable. You're in this, like, basement bar dancing, you go have sake, you go to some rooftop, you know, whatever it is. So much fun stuff. The guys, they're hot garbage. I mean, it is the worst city in the world for dating.

And there's a lot of stats and data to back it up. We love this author named John Berger. He has two books out. The first one was called Datanomics. And the numbers just don't really match up. There's too many women for men. So there's this disparity. And when you have a population where there is a disparity in male, female, the way that the one, the lesser populated gender, the way they can act, they know it. So there's cities where there's more women than men like New York, L.A. It's cities where there's more men than women, men act differently. So you do feel a sense of being disposable a lot. I think that it's tough. I, Rayne and I have more girlfriends combined than anybody I know in every city in America, every, you know, major city in America. And again, we talk to women at our shows all the time. And it is a special breed. of terrible here. And we've always dated guys outside of New York. We haven't had a lot of success.

I mean, we meet guys on the road. We have long distance. And yes, I've had some epic dates here. I've dated some people. But it is pretty tough out here. I should have brought my glasses. This is giving Southern Charm. And I'll tell you why.

Southern Charm, the show. Ashley doesn't watch it, but I've watched every. Yeah. I mean, I've watched. She's watched. I know enough. Okay. This is giving Southern Charm because the show,

Southern Charm, when we went to Charleston, there's so many beautiful women there. Yes. And there's not a lot of men. So what happens is it's almost like New York is like a bigger version of that work. And so what happens is the women almost feel like and I can see why they have to like do all these things to fit in the box. Let me tell you something here, Lauren, as a, the only man in the room. He's like, let me cut you off, Lauren. Let me just cut this off. I always, you know, I grew up two sisters and I found it, there was always Cosmo magazines laying around. And I always found And this can maybe sound a little sexist, right? They've been probably going to get some flack for this, but whatever.

There would all these crazy articles of women giving other women advice about how men think. And I always found this so strange because I talked to my sisters about dating because obviously I want my sisters to have the most success in dating. And I think men are dogs. I'll just put it out there. We are hot garbage trash. And the problem with a big city like this and then coupling dating apps is men feel like for whatever reason we have endless optionality.

Entitlement. And so they don't hold. they don't, they're not smart. We're not smart enough to hold on to something real when it crosses over. But you might find a great woman and a great relationship with like, but then you're, you're such a dog and you're so stupid and you see, and you see all this option out. And you'd be like, well, I need to jump to the next one because there's probably something better and better and better. And it's most of the time not the case. I think men hurt themselves as well because they get into these things and they miss great women because they just think there's something. Absolutely. Yes. Yeah. And when, guess what? When they're 45 years old and they're looking like a crusty prune.

So to round it out, what I told my sister is you have to take the optionality away from the men. Like you have to, like if you know you're great and you know, and you're with someone, like, I was told my sister's like, as soon as he starts ever playing any of those games, throw him out. Don't entertain him. Don't bring him back. Don't give him the optionality that you're waiting for him. I like that advice because I think that, and I fell prey to this too, is when you feel

somebody slipping away, it almost feels like quicksand you try harder. And you make yourself more available and you check in with them more and you make yourself more available for plans. And I agree with you that the response to this, the only way you're going to get the guy is to just cut it off. And sometimes that person isn't ready to be in a relationship. It has nothing to do with you a lot of the time, I think. Because we feel like we can maybe keep one here and then drag on a few other here. But what you're saying even reinforces the point of how it feels in these types of populations. So they in again, in these books and there's different studies of like men in and everything's have changed even since the these books were written. And

COVID changed a lot of where people moved. I mean, you guys, didn't you guys move? I mean, people that kind of changed where they are in the country. But like a population like San Francisco, Silicon Valley, there's so many more men than women, educated men, successful men. And so the men hold on to the good women that they find more so. So it's not like written anywhere, but you just feel it. Like men in Newark know that there's another one of this hot girl around the corner that

just might be a little better than this. this one and it is like why it is tough out there and it's exactly what you're saying. And we've talked to so many guys that echo that. And then they're like, you have to make a decision to stop. You have to make a decision to commit and be like, I'm, I'm really into her. She's great. I'm not going to try to make this work and commit to it as opposed to like maybe I can find her, but even like a little hotter.

Well, and then again, like I'm always careful with this stuff because one, I've been in relationship forever. So what the hell do I know? And two, like, I look at it from the perspective. If I was giving my younger sister the advice on if a man was behaving that way with her, like, what I would tell her to do. And my brothers had to do that for me too. I remember one time my brother said to me, like, I just have to tell you if I was into a girl, I've never behaved like this. I'm just being honest with you. And it like hurt a little bit, but it's true. And we talk to our guy friends all the time. We've wonderful men, psychotherapists that are male on our show. And we want to give a 360 view of dating. But the way to make those people be into you is not to double down and make

yourself more available. That's the opposite. All right. I have advice. I know I've been in a relationship for 600 years. That doesn't preclude you from having. If I was in New York, I would practice this theory that I call act like a poodle. Okay. You have to be like meh to everything. Everything is meh. The tail up. Me. You want to go to the beach? I can't do that day. What about this day? Nope, can't do that day either. Like you just have to be constantly uninterested in them. I think that's the unlock And I mean

When you said it's like quicksand and you feel I know what you're talking about You literally have to do The complete opposite of what your human nature wants you to do That's in my opinion how you get what you want Well I think men and women like the chase Because there's this thing I was watching this cartoon

It's like from like 50 years ago It's a cartoon And the dog is like running The like girl dog is running And like her smell is like like cascading and the guy's just drooling and she just keeps moving with her smell. You're talking on peppy lapue? It's something like that. It's like a peppy lapue. But the girl keeps moving.

Like she keeps it moving. She's moving. And the guy's just, he just can't stop because she's just moving and she's leaving her trail and her smell and her cascade. But she's not leaning into him. She's leaning away. She's going away. And so I think if I was dating in New York, I would literally do the exact opposite of what I wanted to do in a way where it stood out. because it was so different from what everyone else is doing. Kind of like the George Costanza Seinfeld episode, just do everything opposite of what you're interesting telling you. Yeah, because if you, let me tell you, anyone can small desperate energy.

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She's got shit going on. She's not desperate for partners. She's not desperate for her husband. She's not chasing me. So I think that we always say there's like a happy medium there. And what you're talking about, it's very hard to manufacture that if you don't feel it. If you're like, I really want to see Scott. I want to say yes.

But I'm going to say no because I want to see two available. The workaround to that is actually don't be available. Yes. Make the life. Yes. Actually have like a job and friends and all this cool stuff. We, it happens very rarely, but I remember like a friend of ours like canceled plans to like go out the guy. And I was like, okay, I was surprised by it. Because it doesn't happen a lot. Doesn't happen a lot. As you get older, I think you stop doing that. Hopefully you don't make dating and being in a relationship the only box you want to check because there's so many other boxes. Like imagine finding a person that's so fully formed. They have all these things. They can bring all this cool stuff to your life. And they want to be with you. That's so great. It's like crowded out what you're saying like crowded out with being having such a full beautiful life that you kind of don't need that. but I will tell you I don't want someone to know I like them I'm dating them he doesn't I want

them to be like I'm still not sure no honestly that's that's that's a that's I don't want someone to know we have two children honestly that's my tip and I've been in a relationship for 600 years so what do I know but I don't really sometimes he'll text me 10 times and I don't respond they'll call me you're not you're not wrong you're not wrong that I'm going to tell you I kind of don't want him to know how much I like him I'm being dead serious that's my tip we've been playing this You need to know how much. If I like, you're not like a person that lays in bed and is like, I'm obsessed with you. No.

You're the best. No. And even if I was, I wouldn't do that because I really think that like I think people want what they can't have. And like, I'm going to try to keep that in my relationship. I think if you just like are uninterested, I just think the guys lean in. It's, they're just too obvious. But do you also feel like for you two in particular, one, very open about sex, two, very successful? Yes.

Three, like in your case. comedian. That's maybe the problem, you guys. Some men may be intimidated. Yeah. And some it's, and like, let's take intimidation out of it. Some men just don't want it. Like, I could be very honest about this. I don't, I'm not looking for, I'm not giving myself a pity party. I can very much understand that I am not what a lot of men may want. I know that there's like the right person and I've had successful relationships and, you know, people want to date me, fall in love with me, all those things. But like, I know that I'm not undesirable, but I know that I'm undesirable, but I know that I'm undesirable to some people, and that's fine. And there's people that are undesirable to me.

But yeah, I don't think everybody wants someone that does what we do that makes a bunch more money than them that's standing up on stage with a microphone, talking about our sex life, for sure. So that adds another challenge to it. Or they don't want you to outshine them at dinner. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're like you're comfortable with being on stage. For sure. I mean, all these things. I think we can take a realistic look at this. And sometimes I like talk to certain friends about this and they get in this like, don't beat your. self up and I'm like, no, it's not that. I'm just looking at the world realistically. I'm not 27. You know, I'm not the hottest girl in the room. Like, you got to really want what I'm putting

out there to want to be with me. And it's kind of specific. Also, the other side of it is like, what's the alternative here? So we hear from women all the time are men intimidated by my success, my money? Maybe. But what's the alternative? Yes, your dating pool does get smaller. Of course, as you get more successful, you make more money. Of course, there's going to be people in the world that don't like it and don't want to date you or feel really emasculated by you, even though you try to make yourself smaller, less, not talk about all those things. Of course, but what's the alternative? Don't be successful. Don't hustle. Don't try to like make money and be proud of what you have to do. Like what? Act like you don't like them. Yeah. I think like there's this. I'm telling you just act

like you like you like just literally don't like them and don't make time for them. So maybe I. The second part of that is easy. I don't have any time. We don't have any time. No, honestly, if you were courting me right now, I literally wouldn't text you back. This isn't a game. I'm busy. I wouldn't text you. I would text you and I want to text you. That is so funny. I say it actually all the time. Like, if I, at the end of our work day, when I get home, if somebody wanted to talk to me about their day, I couldn't do it like four at his day and I'm married. It's like a lot. Well, I think that here, so there's this, I think there's this rub where like for me personally, I'm attracted. I grew up with a mother who I remember like coming home like she worked always had her own business. So that. That's like the example. A lot of men didn't have that. A lot of, you know, men maybe had that different example. Their mother was like a caretaker. She stayed home and she didn't work as much. And I don't think one's better than the other. But I'm particularly attracted to strong women because I think that was the dynamic that I had in my household. But there is this kind of, I talk to our younger siblings and there's this weird kind of rub where I think we're still figuring out a society like the masculine feminine, right? A lot of women are doing a lot of crazy things now, much bigger than a lot of men. And like the, you having so much success. And I think a lot of men are struggling with the dynamic of like,

what is it like being with a woman that may be much more successful than me, maybe the breadwinner. They maybe feel emmasculate of it. And even to the point where like I hear these young guys going on dates and like chopping the bill, like to me, I would never like, I don't care how broke I was. Like I, you know, when I took a woman out, I paid. And so I think there's this weird thing where it's like the masculine feminine. And into your point, some men feel emasculated in a way. And some women reinforce that. And we're trying to navigate like what that dynamic is. is and men haven't fully gotten okay with maybe being so secure with women that may be further than them from a financial perspective.

There's a, it's tough. Things are changing. We want to have like, we want to have Scott Galloway on our podcast coming up because I've been watching him talk a lot about this like men not knowing what to do. And this isn't like an apologizing for men type of situation. But women are really like they're, they're blowing past men in like a lot of ways and men kind of feel left behind. And then they don't know where they stand.

They don't know what they even are providing. they don't see a use like they don't feel useful or needed and I'm not saying all in every relationship but there's a lot of mismatching going on in the dating world and we see it all the time and I don't have the answers

but I enjoy discussing it but does you think it's I mean like to me and again like this may be sexist but I find it like to me I think a man if he takes a woman out should pay we do too but then again but then there's you know conversation

of you know like equal opportunity. And so like I still think it's nice to like open the door, pull the chair out, you know, pay for the day. Like, but we're in this weird phase right. And I hate to age. like, Gen Z's like, no, it's got to be like we pay. Like I hear this from our siblings. I'm like, this is strange to me. This is very foreign to me. I have sympathy for people that are really young. If you're both 22 and both you're like, I don't make any money either. You know what I mean? But I think that people just want to be treated really nicely. And if a man asks a woman out, it's nice if he just takes care of it. Don't make it weird. I've been in some like very, very,

weird situation. Like what? Let's get micro. Like what? Young guys are scared to. Give us, I feel like this guy at a bar on our first date, we'd met before. We met in a bar previously. So he'd like, it's not like I walked in and I was a different person that he met on an app, right? So he met before. He felt catfish or something. Right. He didn't get catfish by me. I met him at this bar. He was running late, which already annoyed me. He didn't confirm with me the day of. So I had canceled the date and he rescheduled. I already didn't like the behavior. And I got to this bar and he already had a drink in his hand. And I walked over to the bar and I ordered a drink and it was a cash bar, I guess. And this guy told me to go to an ATM and get cash out. Oh, no, no, no, no. What did you say? I was like not, this is like maybe our second episode of the

podcast top first five. I went to an ATM. I went to an ATM and I got money. It was so uncomfortable for me. I was like, all right, I'm trying to rationalize this in my brain of like, I don't know this person. It's a stranger. I, all right, I guess I'll just do this. I wouldn't do that today. But I wouldn't do today. And also, I never saw the guy again. So I just, I finished the date. He made it really weird. Also, we weren't it per se. We were at a dive bar in the West Village. This drink was $10. I would pay for a stranger at a bar if they were like, oh shit, I forgot my wallet, you know? He made it so uncomfortable. He was rude. He was weird about money. I didn't like the vibe. And I never talked to this guy again. So I'm not necessarily going to like throw a fit if you behave like

this, but I'm not going to go out with you again. I kind of love that you like stayed though because you have the story now. Because if you just had love. left and like laid at his ass. You couldn't talk about it on the podcast. Yeah, we talk about that too. We said about them more staying for the story. I went to the bathroom and made a bunch of notes. Right.

Like wanted to tell Ashley all the crazy things he did. But how do we feel about like you guys are out enjoying a drink in a dive bar and a guy just pops out of nowhere and starts, you know, moving in? Because that was the way I thought it used to work. But now I've heard that you can't even, you can't do that. It's like a no-no. Why? I mean, so and also to go back to your paying thing, like we, I don't think a guy should

have to pay for me forever. I make a lot of money, you know, like, but we, we mean like that first date. Like, it's, it's, okay, for sure. And I, and I, and I love that, I love, don't care if I'm a billionaire. Yeah. He'll always pay. I, I love this discussion, but we, we discussed this a lot. And I even have seen men saying like, yeah, you got to pay. What are you doing? A, it's kind of like a woman to come out at night and meet a stranger if you're an app person or the amount of time she put into her hair, make up all these things. Like, what are we doing? out here split the bill on a first date that you asked me on. Like this girl, I saw this TikTok, this guy asked her in a coffee date.

So immediately she's like, is he like a broke loser? Whatever. That doesn't have to mean that. And some people don't drink and yada yada. But she got there. He was already having his coffee. There was a line out the door. He didn't offer to get up and get hers.

And she's like, I fucking left. This is a huge red flag on so many levels. And we're hearing stories like this where we're like some of these guys that clearly aren't helping themselves in this situation. I think we're progressing a little too far in some of it. But what did you just ask me? No, I was saying like if a guy just pops up out of nowhere. Like coming up to a bar.

So because I missed all the dating apps. The way that I had to do it is like you, okay, like you go to a bar and like put on a good outfit. I'd like to be approached in Barnes & Noble. But like literally like maybe you could approach one to two women because you don't want to be the guy that's bouncing around to 18 women in one bar. They're all going to look at you like you're a creep. Well, I love, well, first of all, if you're hot, you can do whatever you want. I love it when it's super hot guy. I just meet up.

I like being approached, but I would like somebody to read the room. I want somebody to not feel predatory. I don't want them to be in my space. I want them to be asking a question that's not so intrusive. Like, have you ever been here before? What do you like to order here? And I'd like you to read my body language. If I'm not enjoying this, I'd like you to go away.

Got it. So if he looks like the guy from the goonies, get the fuck away. But if it's a hot guy, moving. Well, that was not nice of me to say. But in general, it's the way of the world. Yeah. I want to be attracted to somebody. But I like when a guy's confident says hello to me for making eyes, especially

for making eyes across a bar. I love if somebody comes over. I think that's great. Who doesn't want that. But I'd like them to make themselves go away if I'm clearly not enjoying it. Yeah. I mean, but then it's like, again, sometimes they're like, okay, but is she playing hard to get? Is she doing the poodle thing?

For me, I still think there's a way of reading body language. Like, you should know if you're not wanted. Yeah. If she's not looking you in the face, she's not answering your questions. And what I don't want is someone to buy me a drink without bringing it up first. And then I feel like they think I owe them my time. But yeah, I don't fault anyone for shooting their shot as long as they can tell if they need, it's time to go. I mean, yeah, we've had situations with guys come up and they won't leave.

You're like, this is crazy, you know, but I don't, we don't like this narrative of every guy or person who approaches you in public. It's like, ew, oh my God, what a creep. Because then that's going to deter that from happening. It's such a finesse, isn't it? It's such a finesse. There's so many different caveats. I mean, listen, I would have no clue what to do these days. I mean, I have, I haven't not been in the dating world since I was 20.

And I feel like I wouldn't even have any clue where to start. I think you too would enjoy watching each other at a bar, pick up other people. I feel like that might be fun for you. Let's go do it tonight. Oh, yeah. And just go see your little rusty. You know, let's go do it. We tried to do that thing.

What's it called dirty stranger? Oh, sexy stranger. I probably say dirty stranger. Uh-huh. I think you guys would really like it. But she scheduled a fucking dinner in Georgia Baldy in L.A., which was like, sitting there. We were dressed up in outfits.

It was like it was the weirdest thing. We blew it. Wait, I love this. Like a role playing dinner? It was supposed to, I thought in that you go and you dress up and you pick some at a bar, but she's scheduled a reservation dinner.

You guys are going to have to go listen to their podcast. All right. We'll talk about it on ours. We've been in situations though, we're like really drunk guys or even not drunk just, it feels like predatory. They won't go away. Like I don't think it's that difficult.

I don't want to come across like you have to do this, but don't do this, but do this. But don't do this. Like I think it's just like if this woman is turning away from you. physically. Like, as a role, you gotta leave. Can you just say, like, my girlfriend is over there? Yeah, I think as women, we get worried. You should be able to do it too. Yeah, of course. No, no, no, can you say that's my girlfriend? Like, I'm a lesbian. Oh, true. Yeah. Like, I, say I'm here my girlfriend. Like, if I were you and this was like, bothering you. Yeah, good. Blatently lie to their

face. Great. And they're like, oh, you wouldn't have a threesome. Like, they're not getting it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, look at me and Ashley, be like, like, they don't touch each other. They are definitely not dating. I feel like there's a way to, like, maybe you guys need to write a book on this to, to, like, write every scenario. out and like write what to do in the scenario. Like you two would be so good at that to write all the scenarios you've been in. Like I'm sure there's a billion and write what to do and what to say. And, you know, maybe a lie doesn't hurt a flea.

It's a little white lie. I agree. And I think as women, we get really worried because every one of us has been in a situation where we politely reject somebody and they become really not nice to you or they call you a bitch or their body language just becomes a little threatening. And I think all women, we've like, we've been trained to like play cake. and make things just smaller. Yes, standard of people.

And, like, I do want to turn around to some guys and be like, I'm with my friend. I don't want to talk to you. Leave me alone. But you can't do that because, like, they'll freak out. So maybe you just say, like, hey, I'm so sorry. I'm with my girlfriend. Yeah. Has the ketchup?

100%. Yeah. If we've learned anything, God, fuck these men. They're such trash. Fuck these guys. No, I think that it's just, it's just a unique dating landscape right now that no one has ever endured because of the phone. It's hard to give blanket advice, especially when we've been in relationship.

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raya but any guy that we've dated probably since the inception of the podcast has been someone we met in person I mean we're good at talking to people we do it for a living you know like I've we've we've had good luck. So, but again, I can't speak on 22, 23 year olds and especially people who maybe went out into the real world during COVID. That was pretty tough, you know, when things weren't normal. So not that they're what's normal anyway, but we prefer it that way, you know, so. And we've had some good luck. I don't want to give the messages like it's all bad. We have like amazing brothers, great dads. We've dated really great, wonderful guys. You know, we have good examples in the world of men in our lives. I've had really, really nice men in my life. I just.

have mostly dated them on the road. Like I've had a lot of long distance relationships in my life. And I feel that men outside of these like major like outside of New York City are more intentional. They're kinder. Every time I see them, they follow up. They want to see me again. We make a plan for the next time. They're just there and present. And I don't feel like I'm an option. I feel like I'm the choice. Yeah. So we do want people to get off the apps and stop relying on that solely. And that's again, we like always reference this author that we have to. on our show, John Berger, who wrote these two books. And he does like a challenge in like different ways you can try to meet people and like think of people you already know, sort of like someone in

your circle, see if someone can set you up, like different ways. So people just don't have to be constantly only dating online. It can really kind of warp your whole perception of the experience. I completely agree with that. That's very smart to see who's in your inner circle and how there's like six degrees of separation. Let's take a plot twist. What's the key to butt sex? Wow. Well, they were mentioning it earlier. I'm sure people were wondering. No, we'll get it. I've never had butt sex. I'm saving that hole for marriage. Just kidding. Are you guys doing butt sex? I've only tried it like a couple times. Okay. It's not my cup of tea. I like butt stuff. You can stick a finger. Yeah. I like a little butt play. You can eat my ass, whatever. Oh, okay. Well, you know what? The thing with me is I just feel like for me that hole feels like things are supposed to come out. That's what I say. I say it's an out hole, but no shade to anybody. No shade. That's what I'm wondering. What's the key to good butt. sucks. Yeah, lube is really great working the butthole a little bit. If you want to like work the taint a little, work the butt. You can't just go straight into a hole. It's not going to feel good

for anybody. I don't enjoy the sensation. It's not for me. I've tried it with a lot of partners. I've tried butt sex. I've tried fingers in my butt during sex. It is not a pleasure hole for me. I'll do anything else. I don't enjoy it. But if you like work to the area a little bit more, I would enjoy it more. And lube always helps. You got to have lube. You got to go to there dry. That's crazy. But we a vibrator is. nice too. Well, we have, we're, we can talk about. I mean, we'll launch this, which we're working on it as a butt plug, which is really

important to get something in there before it's a full-blown dick. You know, and you can do that at home yourself. Like, I, again, I want to be clear that I have not had anal sex, so I can't speak on it from that standpoint. But I still think that you should put something in your butt before you try anal for the first time. And you can do it at home alone. Don't want to just do a dry run. Yeah.

It's kind of like getting banged before you have sex for the first time. I guess we all did that. I don't know. I didn't put a vibrator in my postie before I had sex. I didn't either. I'm just saying we have the luxury now to have these things. I've been a vibrator girl since I was literally 14 years old. Before sex.

Before sex. You took your original. You were insorting it. You were inserting it. Not inserting it. I was using a vibrator. Can I ask you a question? Did you talk?

So I started masturbating very, very young. And I had no idea that other people were doing this. And also the term was fingering. and I always just rubbed my clit. So I was like, this is this trick, only I know. Did you, did you talk to other women about it when you were like 14? Like, at what point did you talk to your friends about masturbating? Always.

Always at that age? I've been very comfortable with sex from a very young age. And we can get into this on your podcast. I don't want to like take this up. But I just don't. How are we here? Yeah. We're here from sex.

Yeah. But sex and touching yourself, I remember like growing up thinking this is this thing the guys do. Like, none of my girlfriends ever talked to me about that. I had no girlfriends until I was probably in my very early 20s that were like, yeah, I masturbate too. We, the high school that I, the middle school and high school that we went to was like college. So I think that's the like that maybe the difference is that everyone was doing like we were drinking like we were in college. I mean, Michael and I were hooking up people grew up real fast. It's very, it was a very like a fast time's kind of high school. So maybe that's why. I do a bit about this like we had a girl like get pregnant in

eighth grade and like carry the full baby the whole school year like we I mean we were drinking people were having sex but some masturbation wasn't in being discussed I don't know yeah I feel like masturbation was a female masturbation yeah I yeah that's great my girlfriend like like masturbation was a big part of my life around that age but for as a boy yeah like I didn't know like Lauren you're head of your time you are yeah that's what we're saying like my no I don't think it's me I think it's the place I grew up I'm not saying wait where did you like the crusoe California yeah I think it's I think it's more of like this the high school that we went to yeah yeah very like just fast all the parents that have young kids in San Diego are just like oh shit sauce is not going to high school there that's for damn sure so the key to butt sex is a lot of loob it's a vibrator make me enjoy the experience you can't just like go right in like work the area

you can't have a huge dick yeah yeah yeah you don't like I've seen I've like I've had a I've had a lot of big dicks of my life and I feel like there's so many that I'm thinking about them like that there's no way that would even fit it there. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have tried butt sex with Michael. I probably should have tried it with the micro penis that I hooked up with. That was maybe like the wrong time to try it. Just give me like a kind of a backhand compliment. Yeah. On the show. Yeah. Taylor, pull that clip only that. There's a full compliment. Um, okay. I want to talk about erotica audio. Is that how you, is that what you call it? Sure. Uh-huh. I have not experimented in that. Can you guys talk to us about that? We've never talked about it on this podcast. Is that how you, it's erotica audio? Erotic audio. Okay. Talk about that. Yeah. So, So Ashley and I started a company called Vibes Only, just to tell you while we're talking about this in general.

It's a sex toy company and we have all kinds of fun stuff that we brought for you guys like flavored blowjub gel, lube, and a massage oil. And all of our toys have a Bluetooth chip inside of them that connects with our app. And the app has all of these erotic audio stories where you are the other character in the story. So someone's talking to you. So our most popular is a cowboy, for example. And Ashley can tell you about the stories. but the vibrator goes along with the content. It vibes along with the content.

Wait, hold on, really quick. Do we have an accent with the cowboy? Like, what do you talk about? He's not the most popular. He's pretty popular. The most popular is this like Dom BDSM guy named Conrad. He says, we can play a snippet. Yeah, when we came up with this concept, like I had thought that they're, I listened to

to some audio erotic, but it's like a story. There's two characters. So I thought, like, what if it's just like a dirty talk? Like, you're the other person on the other end. They're talking to you. There's no other woman in the room. You know, like you're the other woman in the room. So that was the concept.

Again, like the vibrator pairs to a remote control that lives within the app. That's free. You don't have to subscribe to use the remote. So, and you can use the vibrator just normally as well. You don't have to Bluetooth connect it. But we have designed the technology that when you connect it and the story starts, the vibrator goes along with the story. So I basically like DJed all these stories.

So it starts out really slow. You know, if you are on a horse with the cowboy, it's like kind of a, you know, up and down. There's like rumbling. And then there's a climax. So, yeah, you can really do that. You can, you know, let us do the work or you can obviously do what you prefer. Is it like a click of the button that it turns on?

Yeah, we'll show you. Wait, what does the cowboy say? Like, is he like, like, do an accent. Yeah, so his name is Clint. He does have a southern accent. And you're like at, you're at a ranch. Like, you are a city girl that came to this ranch. And it's, there's three parts.

I just want to even date. Just, you know, you guys got everything going on. You're confident. And you're making your own money. We have women. We have women. Just use this vibrator with Clint. Yeah.

Well, we didn't know. So it's just funny that he is such a star that women have that fantasy because we just started with two parts of Clint. And then they were like, we need more Clint. So we called a far voice or actor. We're like, we need a part three. We had to get the far three written. People love it.

He's going to be a staple. Yeah. Michael, do your accent to see if you're eligible. I can do it. No, do it. Come on. Come on. I can't do something. I don't know how to do it. You do it. I'm going to play the story for you.

Okay. So you come into the app. It's like really, really beautiful. And then we have stories and we've got all these characters. So if you go into Clint, you get all your Clint stories. Clint or Clint? Clint is on your clit. So now if I hit play, it will ask me to connect to the vibe. This podcasting doesn't work out for me. Maybe I can try to get on that app. You do do do an accent. That's such a lie that you won't do.

I got it. No, it's hard for me to just pull it out of my head. You can do it. You can do it. Let's see. Is it up here? Oh, God. You are perfect. All right, let's see where they start. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Tell me how bad you want more. This is genius. Let's see. I'm going to grip your thighs, but you got to hold on tight. Oh, you said you wanted a late night ride. And that's what I'm going to give you. This one I'm going to do tonight.

Oh, you feel so wet sugar. Hey, that's like a lot. Okay, so that's Clint. You listen, Clint, I didn't get down with Clint to like the third story. It got really sexy. He like bent her over this bench during the sunset. But I, we have the one that we, the, there's a, there's a very like kind of Christian Gray type character that's like really dirty and he kind of degrades you a little bit. And people really are into that kind of so.

It's interesting seeing like what people are really the stories that are like the most popular. But did you guys write the stories? I have written one. It's going to be released soon. I wrote one about an NBA athlete. But Tristan Thompson. It's Tristan. Actually, we had Tristan voice it.

You just burn his house down in the story. It's the Tristan collection. So, no, we have writers and we have voice of our actors and we have a whole, you know, production team. And I oversee everything on the content side. So Raina helps, like, throw, like, come up with some of the concept stuff. But yeah, we have like a whole bunch of people that produce these stories. Very niche.

Post production. There's sound effects and different things like that. So, you know, we have the three. vibrators now. We brought you guys the most popular one, which is called the Raina. And Raina can speak on it. And then we are releasing more for the holiday, for Valentine's Day. And we have people love our blow gel, our lube, our massage oil. Let me see this vibrator. I'm going to open it up on here. Oh, wow. Beautiful. It's two ended. This fits the feed. Yeah. It's aesthetic. Oh, yeah. You can use it on your clit or you can use it in. Oh, shit. I thought that was like a shower brush. Yes, you can also bend it and you can put it inside of you and have it stuck on your clit at the same time. It's wild. It's wild. It's. It's. unreal. And you can use either end of it or button that you hold the same time. And this is the button that you hold for this? There's two motors. There's two motors and there's a remote control in the app that's free for

everybody and you can control it with the remote. And it like pulsates. How do I hold it all the way down? You can just keep clicking through it. Isn't it not working? No, it's working. Okay. It's definitely working. I'm like, I got a girl. I actually jacked that one up pretty high, the clit sucker. Your leg will start to shake. It's like unreal. It is an insane orgasm. Okay, how do I turn it on and off? Because I want to save it for tonight. You know, I don't want a couple nights away from the kids. Yeah, literally.

Seriously. Just hold it down. I hold it down and it turns on and I hold and this is the button that I turn it on with. Just hold down each button for two seconds and then click through the patterns. And then there's also like a whole really fun instruction manual and there's a velvet pouch in there for you. Who needs a guy when you have the arena? I really don't know. It is the most incredible. All three of our toys are wonderful and they're really fun in their own ways. And they have just been flying and people like to use them together or solo. We want that are good for travel. The blow job gel is also like my favorite thing that we sell because it's a flavor. I've got the vanilla frosting blowjow gel. And you can just put like a little drop on his not micropinus and just go to town.

It's huge. Make sure you put this in the show Taylor. Can we do a giveaway for our audience so they can ride on a cowboy with or ride on a horse with Clint? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, all you guys have to do is follow Vibes only.

That is the Instagram handle and the website too, but vibes only. Tell us your biggest sexual takeaway on my latest Instagram because I got some takeaways from this. It doesn't have to be sexual, actually. It could just be a takeaway from this episode. We are going on Girls Got to Eat podcast. I think it's going to be released hopefully the same day. We'll see.

Head to the show notes for all the details on vibes only. And where can we find you guys? How do we follow you? Pimp yourself out. You can listen to Girls Got to Eat wherever you find your podcast. Apple, Spotify, wherever. Our website is Girls Gotta Eat.com.

We are on tour in 2020. So we still have tickets left to a lot of different cities. Girls Got to Eat Podcast on Instagram. I am Ash Hess on everything. Instagram, TikTok, Twitter. Raina is reina. at greenberg on Instagram.

And then we also are on TikTok Girls Got to Eat Podcast. So really just search Girls Got to Eat, Girls Got Eat Podcast. You'll find us. I could have talked so many different angles with you guys. So this was really fun.

You guys too. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming on. Go listen to us on Girls Gotta Eat Podcast. You guys. Surprise it took us as long to do this. Thank you guys. Thank you for coming on.

Guys, wait, don't go. Do you want to win some vibes by Girls Got to Eat? All you got to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest Instagram at Lauren Bostic. Make sure you've rated and reviewed the podcast on iTunes under the Skinning Confidential. And definitely go listen to our episode on their podcast. It's called Girls Got to Eat. I hope you love this episode. We'll be back next week with such a good one.

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