The Bossticks - Gwyneth Paltrow - On Real Wellness Routines, Career Advice, & How To Feel Your Best

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

#677: Today, we're joined by legendary actress and founder of GOOP, Gwyneth Paltrow. We're sitting down for a raw conversation on all things wellness, career, entrepreneurship, and parenting. We discu...ss everything from how GOOP first began and how it evolved, to where "mom guilt" comes from, and why she took a break from acting. Finally, we get Gwyneth's best wellness tips, her routines, and everything she does daily to feel her best. To connect with Gwyneth Paltrow click HERE good.clean.goop is offering 10% off for Skinny Confidential listeners only on Amazon. Use code 10SKINNYGOOP at checkout. To connect with GOOP click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential This episode is brought to you by The Squeezed Juice Use code SKINNY for 20% off any order at shop.squeezedjuice.com. This episode is brought to you by AG1 If you want to take ownership of your health, it starts with AG1. Go to drinkAG1.com/SKINNY to get a free 1-year supply of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Branch Basics The Branch Basics Premium Starter Kit will provide you with everything you need to replace all of your toxic cleaning products in your home. It's really a no-brainer. Go to branchbasics.com and use code SKINNY for 15% off their starter kit and free shipping. This episode is brought to you by the Clean Simple Eats Clean Simple Eats protein powder is non-GMO, gluten-free, 3rd party tested, always grass-fed and made with zero artificial ingredients. You can get 10% off your first order by using code SKINNY10 at checkout at cleansimpleeats.com. This episode is brought to you by Vegamour Give your hair the power of the little pink bottle. Visit vegamour.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY at checkout to receive 20% off your first order. This episode is brought to you by Robinhood Robinhood has the only IRA that gives you a 3% boost on every dollar you contribute when you subscribe to Robinhood Gold.This offer is good through April 30. Get started at Robinhood.com/boost. Subscription fees apply. Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you alone for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
Starting point is 00:00:23 You know, when you're a teenager, when you're in your 20s, you think you know everything and you think you're right about everything. I think sort of through my 30s and the failure of my first marriage and in dealing with my father's death, and I started to learn like, oh, I don't really know anything. And righteousness or the idea that, you know, you're so firmly in your opinion about something is like the quickest way to shrink. For me anyway, I feel like I have such a rich inner life because I'm curious. And I, my instinct is not to judge. I mean, sometimes people say things to me and I'll feel myself judge and then I'll be like, okay, no, let's not, you know, come on.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Like, don't make that face. Welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her show. Today, we are joined by legendary actress and founder of Goop, Gwyneth Poutro. Big guests on the show today. We are having a very raw conversation on all things, wellness, career, entrepreneurship, parenting. We really get into the whole evolution of Gwyneth's story. And let me just say something.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Lauren and I meet all sorts of characters on this show, and I could not be more excited to tell you guys that Gwyneth Paltrow is an absolute legend. So cool, so humble in person. We got into everything. Nothing was really off limits. And she was just so open, which is sometimes rare with someone who's reached her level of success. So we just really love the conversation. She was an open book and we went all over the place. We talk about her full nutrition routine, how she went from acting to entrepreneur, her childhood home, the start of goop, why she backed away from acting, mom guilt, and her wellness tips. She also gave you guys a 10% off code for good clean goop, which is an affordable, clean beauty line. I have been using the daily juice cleanser. It's so good. It's clean. It's non-toxic. It has like hyloronic acid in it, which I feel like it hydrates my skin, especially after makeup. All you have to do to use it is to go to Amazon. So you can use 10 skinny goop at checkout on Amazon 10% off. Definitely get that juicy cleanser. It's a good one. Like, I've been using it in the shower. I'm obsessed.
Starting point is 00:02:33 On that note, Gwyneth Paltrow, welcome to the show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. We cleared something up right before we started. Last time you were on a Dear Media show with Dr. Will Cole, went a little viral, broke the internet almost. And now Gwinneth has a Thanksgiving feast every single morning before lunch. That's what she does every time now. By the way, that was so fucked up because, of course, I don't only drink bone broth.
Starting point is 00:02:58 That was edited in such a weird way. And it's not, I'm a great eater. I love food. I just think bone broth as an addition, like if you're working on healing gut stuff, it's like a, it's like a supplement. I sometimes have bone broth, just bone broth before noon. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It feels good. No, we do it all the time.
Starting point is 00:03:19 No, I think that's the problem with some of the way that people consume news is to get these TikTok clips and they pull it out of context and they don't hear the rest of the part where you're describing intermittent fasting. Exactly. Yeah. What did you have for breakfast today? I had, so I made a smoothie. It's the prime protein is the name of it. A peanut butter flavor, which I love. Got a weakness for peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Banana and the prime protein. And then I have some creatine in it and a little like of this got microbiome powder and hemp milk. Why hemp milk? Because I can't have like rice milk. or oat milk because I'm in a paleo phase. Okay. So no grains. And hemp is just kind of good.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Also, they say not to drink too much almond milk and have too many almonds. And because that can also, I guess, be an issue at some point if you're eating millions of nuts all day long. I got to tell you, I have a dealer for my milk. Hey, don't blow the lid off that. No, I get in trouble. I have a dealer. I drink raw milk and people get so mad at me. Raw cow milk?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Yeah. What do you think? What are your thoughts on that? Give us all your thoughts. See, now the clip will be turned on us, right? Guys, you're going to go viral for poisoning the American milk supply. I'm telling you, this raw milk, it's really changing. I drink raw cream in my coffee every morning. Yeah, here we go. Well, let's look at it this way. Raw farm, raw farm dairy. Do you have to have a, is this a brand or do you have to have a dealer? No, it's a brand. You can get it in a health food store. Okay, see? It's called raw farm. Raw farm. I look, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm just milk. That's right. You know what I mean? I guess, that's why I always like, it's crazy to me how we think now we're more special and we just have these techniques, but like, raw milk is how we evolve for thousands and thousands of years. And I think there are schools of thought on, I don't
Starting point is 00:05:12 know too much about this, if I'm totally honest, but there are, our schools of thought that think that drinking raw milk is better because once you process it and everything, that's when the dairy becomes harder to tolerate. It makes so much sense. And I do have to tell you, there's something to it with a pre-workout because it's a little bit of protein, a little bit of sugar, a little bit of carb with the coffee so you get that kick. I love it. Can we get a goop raw milk?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Let's get a goop cow. Oh, that's good. I thought you were suggesting that I go like milk myself in the corner of the corner of it. That'll get pulled on TikTok. We'll say I use your milk for my coffee. Once we get you a little more warmed up in the episode, we'll get to those topics. But for now, we're going to keep it kosher. I would like to go back, like back, back.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Okay. When you were young, obviously you knew that you wanted to be an actor, so I'm sure. But did you know you also had an entrepreneurial spirit? I think that actually artists and entrepreneurs are really cut from the same cloth. It's such a similar personality profile and an entrepreneur is always thinking like they see a vision of a story of something they can create and put in the market. And an artist is the same. They have a vision for a story that they want to execute and put into the world. And I think artists and entrepreneurs both have to have like unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:06:44 believable, like actually delusional self-belief because everyone is like, don't do it. You'll never make it. You're going to lose money. No one's ever going to hire you. So I kind of think it's the same thing, having done both jobs, very, very similar. Obviously, the skills that you need to learn to be an entrepreneur, if you're growing a particular kind of company, you have to learn all of those hard skills. But the spirit behind both, I think, is the same. Would you look back on what your parents did? really right? What was it? I think that they did, even the stuff that they did was wrong was right because it made me who I am. Give me an example. Like, I think I grew up in an era where my mom had a very fixed idea about like what I was supposed to be. And if I didn't measure up, like, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:40 I felt like, oh, wow, I really, so that felt like pain to me. And I think like it galvanized a certain, like, I can do it. I have to prove myself. So even things that were maybe kind of like hurtful at the time, I think ended up being things that really helped me be the kind of person who could achieve a lot. My parents were also, like my mom was also an incredible artist and so warm. and like our house was full of artists and I got to watch her, you know, do plays and rehearse plays. And I was also sort of in awe of her and what she did.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So I kind of wanted to do that job because it looked so she was so empowered when she did it. And I think my dad, you know, he just like loved my guts, you know. He just like loved me so hard and made me feel like an incredibly valuable person. And for my brother and myself, I think he really, he made us feel that we were important, even when we were little, that he listened when we had something to say. He laughed at our jokes. So all those little touch points really encourage, I think, a kid to explore who they are and push the boundaries of who they are and gives them permission to be who they are. Are you taking notes on this for your daughter? You should be taking notes.
Starting point is 00:09:07 What did your mom think she wanted you to be? Like an anthropologist or something like that. That's not what I was expecting you to say. Really? She always said, oh, you're too smart to be an actor. You should do something more academic. This is pretty academic. Yeah, in its own way, for sure.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah. How old were you when you actually started acting? You know what I was watching that with my daughter? She's four. Watching Hook. Oh, my God. That's my debut. And it was vintage.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And I was like, wait a minute. Because, and I just, I forgot because I just, it's been so long. Why would you remember? I had one line. And she was, and it's crazy to watch that movie because we grew up with that. And then now I have a four-year-old and we're looking at it. But I was like, oh, Gwyneth. When you think back to your achievements, is that one of your first moments that you felt like you achieved something or were there moments before that? Honestly, no, because that was like my one sort of cheat because Stephen Spielberg. kind of were very close family friends and he just said, hey, do you want to come and do this one line for me? So, which was thrilling, but what was more thrilling for me was, you know, being in the coffee shop on the corner of 91st in Madison where my school was, you know, when I was a senior,
Starting point is 00:10:25 smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee and having a casting director who had no idea who I was or that I was, you know, at all attached to the entertainment business, came to me. asked me to audition for something. And I went in and I auditioned for the movie and I got a call back and they didn't know who I, you know, my mom was or my dad or anything like that. Not that, you know, my parents were super, super famous, but definitely very well respected in the industry and known. So that I felt like, oh, I'm doing this on my own, you know, like, and that felt that
Starting point is 00:10:56 was really exciting, even though I didn't get the part. You know what? My favorite movie that you've been in this. What? What do you think of an... I don't know. I want to know. I want to know.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Royal tendon balls. Oh. We love that movie. We take Christmas photos each year. I'm like, you know, we're doing this stuff all the time. I'm like, how many more pictures of people of us to people in our family needs? So we find movie posters that we like and we dub our faces over the characters. We did Royal Tendarmondent Balls.
Starting point is 00:11:20 We did really good. Yeah. That's like, I feel like that is a cult classic. Yeah. Was that fun to film? It was so much fun. I loved it. It was great because it was also like a very intense time in my life.
Starting point is 00:11:35 life. Like I had won the Oscar and there was so much focus on me like too much, you know. And I kind of like went into this great, what felt like just this great independent movie in New York City. And so good. We just had such a good time. And I loved working with Wes Anderson. He was amazing. And it was great. It was like, I think it was in 2000. We made that movie or something like that. But does your kids watch these movies like Hook and the Royal Tenen Boms or do they not even go there? they hate seeing me in movies. Really? They like weird out.
Starting point is 00:12:09 They don't like it at all. Especially my son. How old are they? My daughter will be 20 in May and my son will be 18 in April next month. And they still don't like it. They don't like it. I think my daughter has now seen me in, I think now she's sort of, she's seen Tannenbombs. I think she's getting more used to it, but my son really doesn't like it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And definitely when they were little, they really didn't like it. What happened when you achieved so much with everything you achieved with movies? Did you just feel like you were burnt out with acting and you wanted to pivot? Like what was the transition into wanting to do something so entrepreneurial from acting? What was that like? Are those your real eyelashes? They're individual fakes. They are so pretty.
Starting point is 00:12:54 They're a drugstore. Mine are real. I'm just like mesmerized. I was listening to your question and then I sort of got lost in your eyelashes. They're fake. Wow. They're just drugstore, Ardell individual lashes. I'm so impressed.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah. I feel like I need to go copy right back. Taylor, go see if someone in the office can get them with some new eyelashes before we continue the show. My friend Gillian who's here, she calls them snuffaloficus eyelashes. They're so pretty. No, they're not. You know what? You know what is snuffeluffagus eyelash?
Starting point is 00:13:27 I don't know if anyone has stooped as low as I have to be watching season six of love blind. No, everyone tells me I have to watch that show. No, please don't. Why? It's just it's a nice to know. It's just like you feel your life slipping through your hands, but I can't stop and I'm waiting. I think there's a new episode dropping tonight. This is the one where the girl told him that he said, who do you look like? And she said, I look like Megan Fox. Mm-hmm. I think, I think that you shouldn't say that you look like anyone, because you're setting yourself up. Do you know what I mean? Like, just say you'll have to wait and see. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:14:03 I agree. I haven't seen the show. You're meaning like you don't want to shoot too high and then... Like, I don't want to be like, I look just like Michelle Pfeiffer. You kind of do. Good about Michelle Pfeiffer. She's been on this show. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:17 You just got to, like, you... Maybe like, I feel like I should be like, I look like Schmeagle from the rings. And then you're like so surprised. You want to set the bar low. Yeah, maybe lower expectations. I think that's smart. Yeah. Anyway, one lady on that show has really...
Starting point is 00:14:32 really intense eyelashes that are very fuzzy. I sort of like them. I think they're kind of cute. It makes her look like snuffiluficous. It's nice in the house. I walk around and I'll find a few eyelashes on the pillows and on the couch and just sprinkled around.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Mommy's eyelash. That's so funny. Just a little touch. When you achieve so much with your acting. Sorry. I took us down aside. No, take a, we love a tangent. And you decide,
Starting point is 00:15:02 Is it like you almost like are an astronaut, you go to the moon, you've done it all, you want to just make a pivot? Or was there a part of you that you look back that you're like, oh, I should have kept acting? No, I never look back, which is so weird. But I think it was a combination of things. I think, you know, I had been a very achievement-oriented person. Yeah. You know, unhealthily so, I would say. I needed to do a lot of work on like really understanding my own.
Starting point is 00:15:32 intrinsic value as opposed to having the world reflect back to me like oh you're good you did this you got that and i i think i you know i turned 30 30 or 31 31 i had my daughter and i was like i kind of went into an early midlife existential crisis where i was like who am i do i even like this job why did i do this why am I famous? This is really brutal. Why did I do this? You know, why have I put myself in this position? Do I even like acting? And luckily I had saved money and I could take time off. So I took like three years off to have my kids and didn't work. And during that time, I had a complete reorientation towards myself, my family, what was important. And I think I had also burnt my myself out. Like I, like one or two of those years that I was working, I did five movies in one
Starting point is 00:16:34 year. Wow. And it was just a lot and a lot of it was fun, but a lot of it was really lonely, you know, and I'd be somewhere by myself, no friends, like eating room service. I felt very disconnected from myself, from my family. And I'm like a very home body person. I love my family, my brother's, my best friend. I just want to be with my husband and my kids. You know, I've had best friends since kindergarten and like seventh grade. Like I really love my people. And I, some people love this kind of nomadic artistic life. But it was, it was hard for me. I felt, I felt really lonely. And also like, I don't know. It's, it was a different business at the time. It was definitely different rules around how women were treated. I think they've made a lot of stride since then. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:23 I just felt like I needed a break. And then I started thinking about this internet that was kind of early. And like I have always had such a passion around food and travel and kind of cracking all the secrets. Like where is the, what is the fastest route to the best thing, you know, in this city? And it kind of came out of that. And, you know, it came out of me cooking at home. And my friends saying like, what temperature do I roast a chicken at? And I just started like aggregating all the stuff for my friends.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And then I thought, well, maybe this could be like a website. And then I decided to do a newsletter instead. And then it just kind of went. I mean, this is a long time ago. This is 15 years ago. Pre-instagram, pre-influencers, you know? When you did the newsletter, I remember when you did that, did you know that you were content marketing for a website and a brand eventually?
Starting point is 00:18:19 Or did you just go into it to do a newsletter like for your friends and whoever? I had no idea what I was doing at all. Like I figured out a monetization strategy way, way later. I had no idea. I was just like, I have this passion to talk about this cool stuff. You know, I remember one of the first things I discovered on your website was this creepy hole in the wall foot spa in Aspen. Oh my God. It's the best. I know. The best. It's the best. And I get someone on each foot and I go for two hours and just work on my phone. It's like the best. That's where I got my first introduction to a foot spa and now I find a foot spa in every area. She goes everywhere. That's where she does like the majority of her work. It has to be like hole in the wall. You might get a happy
Starting point is 00:19:06 ending in the back. You never like you never know. But I remember that's one of the first things that I discovered on your website. So good. There used to be one on Perry Street in New York called Angel Feet. That was that. I don't know if I don't think it's still there was like in a little basement of a town It was totally up your alley. The crazy or the better. Like weird grout in the tiles and all that. Yeah, you would have loved it. It smelled really musty.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And oh my God, it was the greatest place in the world. That's where I find my wife. If I can never find it. Also, it's like the fish tank is moldy. And like there's lollipops from 2001 that are like dumdums that are like kind of crusty. But we, yeah, when we lived here a whole time, we used to go all the time. And then it kind of, that spot got blown up. You're missing out.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I've built half my business in a foot spa. I'm telling you. No, I know. It's been a while. But that's the first foot spot that I discovered through Goop was... You're welcome. Yeah, yeah, you're welcome. It's like, seriously, like, people probably have these moments where they found it. No, it's good.
Starting point is 00:20:00 She comes back a different person. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows what happens in there? You'll never know. Whatever it happens in there is finally, if you come back, it's good moods all around. When did you start to know that Goop had such brand potential? Because how long has it been that you've been doing this?
Starting point is 00:20:15 So I sent the first newsletter out in 2008, so that's 15 years ago. This is, I want people to, too, to. to hear this part because people think people are an overnight success. Yeah, no, no, no, no. And this is 15 years of you building this to be what it is today. So in the beginning, when did you start to be like, this has momentum, this has legs for a brand? So I remember, there were a couple moments. I remember doing an early, early, early, like sort of Christmas gift, like roundup stuff
Starting point is 00:20:46 that I had found for Christmas gifts and got an email for. from one of the businesses I mentioned saying, this was like six months later saying, you completely changed my business. She's like, I cannot believe the volume of requests. Like my life has completely changed. And I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. And then I started anecdotally hearing these little stories,
Starting point is 00:21:15 like about how I was really impacting these women-owned businesses for largely women-owned businesses, owned. And then when I started to raise money in, I don't know, five years later, so probably around, you know, 2012, 13, there was one investor who sought me out to invest because I had mentioned another one of his portfolio companies on Goop. And they had seen this incredible spike in traffic and customer acquisition and conversion and all the stuff. And it sort of stayed high. And he said, like I want to know what happened on this day. And they said, oh, we were on this website called Goop.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And then, so that's how I got my first investor. How do you go from being this such a famous actress to then going to have to raise money? Because raising money is not a joke. No, not about it. And especially if you don't know anything about it. I don't know if you did or you didn't. I mean, there's a lot of great people. There's also a lot of bad actors in the space.
Starting point is 00:22:12 You have to really kind of pay attention about it. For sure. I knew nothing. You know, as I said when I started Goop. been started on this whole path. I knew so little about technology, e-commerce platform, email service providers, you know, venture capital. I knew nothing. I knew none of the acronyms. So I've learned, I had to really very much learn on the job. It's a boys club. It took me like twice as long as it would have taken anybody else who was sort of already. That's interesting to you to say
Starting point is 00:22:43 that because I would assume with you and maybe there's just like, and maybe there's a perception to clear up for people listening. It's like, I would assume because of the platform and your notoriety that it would be easier. Oh, not at all. Not at all. Especially at the time, I think now it might because now people understand that there are business models around influencers and all that. But at the time was like, this person has no authority to be starting in e-commerce. Like how was this actress coming over? Content. Yeah. Interesting. And so it was a long process of, you know, learning, getting really close to my business, having to understand that you can have the importance of strategy, but that, you know, there need to be benchmarks along the way. Like you need to create a plan to execute the strategy.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And it's been a long process. But now we're a pretty well functioning business. When you think about kind of the duality of your career, one actress entrepreneur, what has been more challenging for you? What do you find harder? Definitely my goop career, just in terms of the steepness of the learning curve, how many mistakes I made. You know, when you're an artist, you can, there's a little bit more of a, there's more latitude. And if you're doing a movie and you do a bad take, you're just like, wow, guys, sorry about that. And just do it again. But in a company, if you make a decision, it can have a very long tail that's, you know, not good. Like, you can make a decision that's really a disadvantage. So definitely, definitely, like, running goop,
Starting point is 00:24:17 every day is it's been, I mean, I love it so much and I love what we do, but it's been really, really hard. And there have been so many challenges along the way, so many challenges. Out of all the challenges, what would you pinpoint? For me, it's, for me, I had to transition from being a solopreneur to an entrepreneur where running a team is not a joke and especially a team as big as you have. Is there been certain things you can point to? I mean, the team thing has been, the people thing has been the hardest for me because I have a natural aversion to confrontation. Yeah. And, you know, giving feedback has been, it's taken me, you know, probably took me 12 years to learn how to give honest feedback.
Starting point is 00:25:01 How do you do it? Pretend you don't like something right now. I would say, like, well, give me an example. Like, what did you do? What did you do? What did you? Well, it's flawless. There's nothing, no feedback you're doing. thing that was at all.
Starting point is 00:25:15 But say there's somebody that is being done that, and you disagree with the way it's being done, you have a clearer vision of the way you think. How do you share that information? I'm selfishly want to know because I need this tip. I mean, I start with questions. So I never assume that I know the answer. Like if I would do it differently, there might be a very good reason why they've done it a different way. And if they have the domain expertise, like I would want to understand, okay, why, what led you to make this decision?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Usually I find that the problems occur when there's a breakdown in communication from somebody's side. Like they're not saying, hey, I want to flag this is a problem early enough or they're not communicating well enough with other cross-functional teams. And I just, so after I ask questions, I just say, look, like this is a company that's about communication and collaboration. And you, unfortunately, like, it's your job to move the ball for. forward. Like, this is your area and you need to, you need to, you know, you need to communicate better, whatever the case, whatever the case is. Or if sometimes if it's, you know, really hard feedback, I think you always just want to be very respectful and you want to point out like all of the ways in which they've done their job well, but also, but that the expectations that you have
Starting point is 00:26:41 for a person at their level are different, and this is what you expect to see. While you're in the middle of this entire process, because running a company is not easy, as we've discussed, how do you make the decision to go back to acting, and was it just because you had the Marvel opportunity, or was it you felt called back to acting? Because that's, to me, when I hear running a company
Starting point is 00:27:03 and then going and creating all these new movies, that just seems so overwhelming. Yeah. Well, at the time, it wasn't a big business. when I did Ironman 1, I'm trying to think if it was even, I hadn't done the first newsletter yet. Okay, because what was that 2008 that came out, right? Is that around that time? When I filmed the movie, I wasn't, when I film Iron Man 1, I was not, I wasn't sending the newsletter yet.
Starting point is 00:27:29 My son turned to 1 and then I started iron. And the reason I did Iron Man, I didn't feel called back at all. It was like an old insecurity. Robert Downey Jr. was like, if you don't, he's an old friend of mine he was like if you don't he's amazing in those do a movie
Starting point is 00:27:44 like they're gonna forget about you and he's like and I was like oh okay he hit the insecurity trigger yeah he's like you better and also I was doing I had always done a bunch of indie movies and he's like
Starting point is 00:27:56 don't you want to be in a movie that people actually see he did the he did your strategy on you he started asking you questions quick break to talk about something that Lauren and I are both completely obsessed with and that is the squeeze juice
Starting point is 00:28:11 we had the founder of the squeeze juice on this show recently this year to talk all about the process to make some of the best family-owned 100% all-natural, not from concentrate juices on the market. We give this stuff to our kids. Lauren and I drink it religiously now. And it is honestly some of the best juice that we've had. So when we're switching it up and we're not drinking water, I know boring. And we want to get into something a little bit more exciting.
Starting point is 00:28:32 We jump into the squeeze juice. And it's juice for the entire family. We take it ourselves. We give it to our kids. They have some incredible flavors with some incredible benefits. It's palm granite juice, mandarin juice, and three functional juices, power, immunity, and focus. My favorite one is the immunity one. It's full of vitamin C.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's got a quick of ginger, turmeric, and habanero pepper. If you want to focus a little bit more, there's also one that brings natural energy from a plant called Guarana. I hope I'll pronounce that right, Guarana. With a taste of beets and strawberries, one 11 ounce bottle is equal to one and a half cups of coffee. So if you want to switch it up and do something different than coffee, their focus drink is absolutely incredible. We love this company. We love family-owned companies. We love natural products. And if you're sitting there looking for a better juice alternative and maybe you've been drinking something that you're not so excited about or a little bit unsure about, the squeeze juice is definitely the product for you to try. Of course, we have a special offer for our listeners that only exists here. Use code skinny for 20% off any order when you visit shop.com. Again, code skinny for 20% off any order at shop. That's squeezejuice.com.
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Starting point is 00:33:00 I've been in three Iron Man's, two Avengers, I think. like, what's going on? I'm a comic. I'm a royal tendon bombs. Oh. Okay, but so he's five at least, six? Five? Taylor, how many?
Starting point is 00:33:11 And then, um, and then. Get off porn hub, Taylor and let us know. Get in the game, Taylor. And then Spider-Man, apparently I'm in. Uh-huh. Yeah. Now you're in the suit, though, too. I was having this conversation the other night.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I am very stressed with how much I work with having two kids under four. It gives me massive anxiety. Like, if I were to look across the board, that's the thing that gives me the most anxiety is being away from my kids when I work. But if I don't work, I really don't think I'll show up how I should show up. How did you manage all that? I have major mom guilt. But like, why?
Starting point is 00:33:49 Stop. I don't know. You have to stop, like, stop berating yourself. It's horrible. I'm gone for three days right now and I'm like, I should be held. I'm like, I don't know what's wrong with me. It's pretty bad. It's that we live in a society where we just,
Starting point is 00:34:04 are taught to beat ourselves up and always feel that we're doing the wrong thing. Did you ever feel like that when you were working and you had too young? Oh my God, I had this one night that I remember so well. I was doing a movie called Country Strong. And I was in Nashville. And when I had kids, I kind of limited the size of my parts.
Starting point is 00:34:26 So the last time I really starred in a movie where I was in every scene, I was pregnant with Apple. So since then I've done, you know, a couple weeks here to try to manage the mom thing and the guilt and all that. I was doing Country Strong and we had shot a scene and we were waiting to shoot another scene. And there was a big, I don't know, turnover and set or something. So I was sitting in my trailer for a really long time. And I called my kids and we had this amazing nanny at the time, Marta from Spain because we lived in London.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And I heard, and Marta was, she was so. sweet and she had them both in the bath and they were laughing and having the best time. Brutal. And I was like, I am the work, like I was so heartbroken. I was so full of guilt. I really had to say to myself like, I'm doing this role where I'm getting to sing country music and this is also a part of me and I'm doing the best I can and it's okay for me to be heartbroken then I'm missing bath time. I'm not going to miss every bath time. And you know, just to try to to have some ease and grace around it because like it doesn't help you ultimately as a mother if you're going home and you're feeling laden with guilt and then you're energetically off and then they feel that you're off and it just doesn't I don't think it's productive it's so crazy he'll go away the same time as me and I'm like don't you feel bad don't you feel guilt and he's like no
Starting point is 00:35:55 nothing no nothing no you don't no I don't say no nothing I miss my kids tremendously not like me No, I love my children and I miss them, but I don't feel, listen, I don't want to be sexist or anything, but I feel women maybe feel a certain pressure in this area that men don't. I mean, maybe because the way society's set up, we feel like it's normal for men to go or has been more normalized for men to go out and work and build a career. And I think there's been this stigma put on many women. It's like, oh, you're working and you can't work and be a good mom at the same time. But we just have to stop that because like a lot of us want to work. And a lot of us, it's really good for us to work. A lot of us, it's really good for us to work. of us have to work in order to put bread on the table. I don't think she would be as great of a wife or mother if she didn't do her work. I don't think she would be as happy as a person. And, you know, I've also seen, you know, I have friends who do all kinds of things who stay home and are with the family and who work, who don't have kids, who breastfeed, who choose not to. And I've just seen this emerge, this incredible judgment that not only women have for themselves,
Starting point is 00:36:58 but other women have for other women. And we really need to stop doing that. It's not productive. And we live in a different time. Look, I think on some level, it's for a lot of mothers, and this is not all mothers, but for a lot of mothers, it feels very biological. So we feel that there's something physically missing from us when we are not in the same room as our kids. Some men don't have that. Some men do have that.
Starting point is 00:37:23 But I think it makes it harder for us women who have that, that our baseline is like, I'm sitting here, but I'm. I'm not totally okay. Like my heart is in, you know, where are your kids right now? Austin, Texas. Okay, my heart is in Austin. Like, I'm here and I'm half here. But, you know, the more you can accept, you've built this amazing career. Like this is, and think about the modeling that you're providing your kids for being true to yourself and doing what you love.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I try to remind myself. It's important. I think it's really important. I watch my mom work. she still works for as long as I can remember and to the modeling perspective like that to me was always a natural thing when we got with Lauren's like it's I always grew up
Starting point is 00:38:09 with a strong example of the women in the household working right it's like a normal thing I think it's good where did your and also I'll just say like one of my best friends you know has raised a whole bunch of kids and now she's like but who am I why am I here you know I have a number
Starting point is 00:38:25 of friends who are really struggling with that you know because they feel like they made the kids a center of their lives and now their kids are growing up and they're like, why am I on this earth? And they're really having a difficult time with it. I'll tell you this. None of my male friends have ever grilled me and asked me if I have nannies. I see so many people asking all the time her friends, other women comments, do you have nannies? And no guy has ever said, hey, do you have a nanny, buddy? Yeah. It's not a thing I get asked. It's very, very sexist. Where did your non-judgmental attitude come from? Like you're, I feel like if I told you that,
Starting point is 00:38:59 I use Michael Seamen on my face as a skincare moisturizer, you'd be like, yeah. I'd be like, that's so interesting. Tell me more. What I'm kind of do. At times. I got to go home to my kids at that time. I didn't know you wanted to go.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I was saying like, listen, Lord, if I could be at service to you, if I could be helpful. Stem cells and the moisturizer. I mean, if it's good for you. But I feel like you do have that very non-judgmental approach. Is that always how you've been? No, I would say, you know, when you're a teenager, when you're in your 20s, you think you know everything and you think you're right about everything. I think sort of through my 30s and the failure of my first marriage and in dealing with my father's death. And I started to learn like, oh, I don't really know anything. And righteousness or the idea that, you know, you're so firmly in your opinion about something is like the quickest way to shrink. Like,
Starting point is 00:39:58 lack of judgment and curiosity and openness makes, for me anyway, I feel like I have such a rich inner life because I'm curious and I, my instinct is not to judge. I mean, sometimes people say things to me and I'll feel myself judge and then I'll be like, okay, no, let's not, you come on. Like, don't make that face. How do you deal with all the judgment on the internet? Like, I feel like if you say anything, it's like people just. I think you in particular. Yeah. Like not to single you out. I think it's because she's so non-judgmental and she's so open with what she's doing that that attracts the judgment and the projections. Like the fact that I know we were joking about that clip earlier on Dr. Will Cole's show. Hi, I would Dr. Will. That that went so viral. Like you could
Starting point is 00:40:45 okay, we have 70 or 80 shows that we produce all the time. You could take 70, 80 episodes and say the same exact thing and there's no way it's going as viral as that way. Yeah. What, like why, what is that? I mean, that's always kind of been the mystery for me to. And I think that it's probably some combination of, you know, I've been famous for a really long, long time. So I'm sort of this person in the culture. And now I'm sort of like, you know, I've moved through. Now I'm sort of getting to be like an elder statesman in the culture. I think people have project a certain thing onto me.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And I think I'm also, you know, honest. and I can have a pretty outrageous sense of humor, which I think people don't expect from me. Here's what I will say, just sitting in this brief time with you. We interview a lot of people in your line of work, and you are very forthcoming and honest. And sometimes, you know, you see a wall of 18 different PR people with 30 different edits.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And listen, I'm saying this also when future guests come on, right? But it's like... Even your team was like, they're like, she's so funny. relaxed. I said, what can I ask? Are they go anything? That doesn't always happen. I mean, you know that doesn't always happen. My point is, I think most people that have reached some of the levels of notoriety that you have, it's like there's, some of this stuff is like walled off or you kind of like are protected in a way. And it invites, I feel like it invites the public opinion. I think they're not used to seeing
Starting point is 00:42:15 someone that has such a big platform just be honest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't, you know, I am so not on the internet. Like, I don't. I don't... Healthy. Read stuff. Like, I think we've got... We really, collectively, as a culture, have gone so low now. And to me, it just means there's so much pain.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Like, for someone to sit there and, like, write something nasty and press send on any of these platforms, like, imagine, honestly, like, close your eyes for a second. And imagine what it must feel like in your body at baseline. for you to get on there and be like, you mother, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, like, imagine the state of that poor person that they actually get relief or a release from being nasty. And if you met them at a lunch, they wouldn't do that. Right. You know, like they would ask for my autograph or no, no, a selfie. Right. Sorry, I'm dating myself.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I feel like in a way the selfie is easier. Than an autograph? Yeah. Yeah, sure. It's like, boom. That's all the, it's just like, I'm like, what are you going to, I used to think, like in the 90s, what are you going to do with that piece of paper that I just wrote my name on? I think maybe frame it.
Starting point is 00:43:34 We're all going to be robots soon anyway. That's true. That's, yeah, and the neural link is coming. What's the weirdest wellness thing that you're doing right now shock us? There's got to be something crazy. Gosh, there's not right now. Well, okay. How about this?
Starting point is 00:43:48 How about maybe you don't think is weird? Maybe I won't think is weird, but maybe people would, would think is weird. I feel like I'm in a place right now where everybody's sort of caught up to me, you know, with cold plunges and saunas and cupping and, you know, eating clean. Capping is vintage for you. Cpping is vintage. I was the first cup. You were. I wouldn't have to cut my face the other day and I didn't know that I would have a big swell. Oh, doesn't it feel good though? Yeah, it did feel good. I think stem cells are going to be, you know, I have a lot of friends who are leaving the country to go do stem cell treatments, exosomes, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:44:24 which seems super interesting. That's kind of fringy at the moment. What do you think with how you're going to see Goop evolve when it comes to wellness? You know, it's interesting. I think for us it's really, of course, we have some great wellness products, but it really is this idea of beauty as wellness, right? Like clean, non-toxic, really efficacious product. And also great foot massage recommendations in Aspen.
Starting point is 00:44:54 You know, our focus is really beauty and fashion in terms of what we really sell and what people really want from us. And the wellness content is super important. But for me, we have fused our beauty line with wellness. So it's kind of the same. I read somewhere, and I don't know if this is true, that you said that after Goop, you just want to go off the grid. Is that a true quote? I would love to go off the grid. Like, are you, like, on a ranch?
Starting point is 00:45:26 Are you, like, in Spain? Like, what are you doing? That's so good. Are you just, no way? She doesn't want to blow her cover, like, I don't want to blow your cover, but like, are you off social media? It's a big country. Are you off? I would definitely get off social media.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I'm on social media, you know, for the purpose of providing a platform to talk about the things that I care about and to create enterprise value at Goop and stuff like that. I don't think it's healthy. I don't like it. Sometimes I'm in the bad. at night and I catch myself just like scroll scroll and I'm like this is so toxic and by the way I don't even follow anything gossip or anything but even just even just the forced engagement like that forced dopamine thing it does I think is really detrimental so I would like to be off social media I would like to be yeah we'd ever see you again I mean I have a fantasy of really going on
Starting point is 00:46:24 into the sunset and just like making dinner for my husband and reading books and maybe writing a book. I think it would be cool one day. You know like back in the day when you turn on the TV and it was like shh and it's just like all black. Yeah. You like went to listen to the podcast. It's just like and you just never see him again. I love it. Oh, that's so chic. I'm into that. No no hey it's been great. We're gonna say bye. No long no farewell tour. No farewell just gone. Yeah. gone. That's kind of what I aspire to at some point. But I've also learned at this point I would never say, I'm never going to do this again or never going to, you know, I mean, I could decide,
Starting point is 00:46:58 I could catch an acting bug again at some point. Like, that could happen, right? I have no idea. How are you managing your children with social media? Like, do you have set rules around it? Do you have conversations around it? That's a big question. Yeah. I mean, so I, I, I didn't let them do it until, I mean, my kids got phones when they were 12? Yeah, that's. That's probably the right age. Yeah. 12 sounds right to me. And then I wouldn't let them be on social media for a while.
Starting point is 00:47:32 You know, it's funny. My daughter is so cool. She's like just, she's like, this is toxic. And, you know, she kind of does it. She's private on Instagram. She's, it's just like dope. She's like, I'm not going to feed into this whole paradigm. So she's kind of, you know, she's, she's so cool.
Starting point is 00:47:51 She's at college right now. And she's also, she's just kind of. like, you know, she paints in her spare time, like she's not scrolling Instagram. And my son is a boy, so he kind of just doesn't give a fuck, you know? It's not even like a, sorry, I just swore. It's happened before. I'm sorry. I don't think you need to follow.
Starting point is 00:48:09 He just, he's not, he just is not wired to think or care what the culture thinks about him. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, I guess what I was going to tell my daughter when she gets older is like, it's a movie set. Yeah. Like you're watching something with lighting, with filters, with makeup, with hair. Yeah. It's, it is like a movie. It's just hard because they can't discern that. And it's like everything's so presentational and they're getting these really strong messages about what they're supposed to look like. Yeah. That's what really kills me for the girls, you know, and they all have a degree of
Starting point is 00:48:47 anxiety that I did not have in my generation. And I know, I mean, we know, we know social media is responsible for so much of that. Every single day after my workout, I come home. I do a scoop of protein powder and then I do a scoop of fiber powder and I mix it up together with a frother and it's a great way for me to get protein in quickly. The protein that I've been using is clean, simple eats because it's just that. It's clean and simple. There are protein powders always grass fed with no seed oils. You would be surprised how many protein powders have seed oils. It also has no artificial ingredients. It's third-party tested non-GMO and gluten-free. And for me, each serving has 20 grams of protein. So this is like a perfect addition for me to hit my protein goal, especially after a
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Starting point is 00:53:20 Like it was the last year. And Facebook came out the year we became fresh. But you can only do it if you were in school. And it was no mobile. And it was back when you uploaded the full album. Right. But I think the framework that I use personally that I want to teach my children is, is this a productive tool that's serving you or are you a consumer?
Starting point is 00:53:37 Because if you're a consumer and you're just, you are the product. No, then you're being like ricocheted all over. What is your morning routine? It's pretty boring, but. Give us like the, I know, I see you wearing the iPads on it. Like, give us like, the details. I love those iPads. I want the details of that. So I wake up. My husband and I meditate together in the morning, which is great because... How kind of meditation is it? T.M. Okay. How long?
Starting point is 00:54:03 20 minutes. Okay. Not too bad. So we do that. And then we have like coffee time and email and stuff like that. And then my son gets up and half the week his son is there too. But his son sort of like slips through and goes out. My son sort of lingers around and what's you guys doing? What are you talking about? And then I exercise and then I go to my office and then I come home. What's your exercise? I do Tracy Anderson method, which I've done for 17 years, which I swear by. Is it weights? Lightweights and it's kind of it's almost like her her workout is like choreography. But don't think about a full dance. Just think about sort of certain angles and it's online. It's incredible. In fact, she has a whole streaming community and those women, their bodies are incredible. Sometimes I just go on like,
Starting point is 00:54:59 I can't believe when they have dedication to her. We'll have to check it out, Lauren. Do you? Is that a dig at your wife? No, I was saying, no, I'm saying, we'll have to get on and check the body. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh. You could go on. I was like, I thought you meant like, you better get on that, Lauren. Lauren and me, we have been weight lifting together. It's pretty cool. That's hot.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I had to lose 60 pounds. After the baby. 60 pounds. That's a lot. My friend Kate had like gain like 57. Yeah. I understand. I was so hungry when I was pregnant with my son.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I could not stop eating. I really couldn't. I was virucousal. Wow. Yeah, I was rolling around. It wasn't that bad. No. Pull a picture, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I was I was rolling around. We had two babies. That's okay. Are you doing Tracy Anderson with Tracy Anderson? Are you doing the app? Are you doing it by yourself? So all three, sometimes I'm lucky enough that she'll pop by and teach me, which is like awesome. A lot of times I'll do it with one of the trainers.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And a lot of times I'll do it online. She has like an incredible amount of content online. You can join the online studio and do it. So I do that a lot as well. Are you doing seven days a week? No. I do Tracy Anderson three to four days. a week. I do Pilates. I love Pilates. I need to like have some strong, you know, heavier
Starting point is 00:56:21 resistance and stuff. And then my husband and I walk as well. Every weekend, we take a long walk. And what's your nighttime routine? Dinner, six or six 30. Are you cooking? Sometimes and sometimes not. It really, it depends on the day. A lot of days I can't because of work. I only get home at like five. Okay. So you're at the office all day. I'm at the office all day. I cook a lot. I cook a lot. on the weekends. So weekends I cook breakfast lunch and dinner. You do? I do. I love to cook and I love to I find it really relaxing. What's the what's the go-to meal that you're cooking? For what? For let's say for breakfast. A lot of times so we have a little vegetable patch. You know in California we're so lucky with like it's incredible how abundant. I'd love a vegetable patch. I'd love a
Starting point is 00:57:09 cow too. A cow I feel is in your future. You live in Texas. I told Lauren we could get cows and at my fingertips. I'm so... She has to participate in helping... I think she thinks the animals just take care of themselves. I know this is a whole deal. It's a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:57:22 So you have a vegetable garden that you can go out and pick stuff. I don't have that. I'd love that. So right now it's winter. So there's a lot of kale. There's a lot of Swiss chard. There are leaks.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It's so good for you to have that in your backyard. Yeah. So it's pesticides. Exactly. So I go down and I cut a bunch of stuff and I'll make a frittata or sometimes I'll make a shakshuka. Just like my husband doesn't eat a lot of carbs either.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So we both had long COVID and that was what precipitated the kind of no grains for us. So I cook like, you know, lots of eggs and protein and vegetables. You eat a lot of meat. So do I eat a lot of meat because you're paleo, right? I'm paleo, but you know, I didn't eat meat for like 21 years. So what changed that? It was a couple of things. I mean, I think understanding that.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I was really low in protein and like some changes were physiological changes were happening in my body that were not good and I needed more protein. So I still I still have a little bit of a hard time with red meat. I don't eat pork. It's just like not my not my jam. I still sometimes have a hard time like cutting into like a steak. I sort of gross out sometimes but I still I still will have it. But if it's like a meatball or something like that, I have an easier time. I know that's so weird. No, it's not weird. I understand what the steak. It's just like cutting into the flesh.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Sometimes I kind of gross out. Yeah. But I think I'm more omnivorous now than I've ever been. If you were to tell our audience to do one wellness thing that you think is absolutely life changing, what would it be? To forgive yourself. That's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Very like Louise Hay. love her. We all walk around like we hold these sins in our body, you know, like I did this or I shouldn't have done that or I wish I was more like that. It's just like let it go. Forgive, forgive. That's a good one. Yeah. What can we expect next for Goop? Well, okay. First of all, we're eating, let's say what we're eating because we're eating the Blackberry flavored, the bodyguard immunity shoes. So you guys, I just want you to know I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so like when I started Goop, it was so, like the clean beauty movement was not a thing at all. And the more I educated myself around what is in products that we put on our bodies, which
Starting point is 00:59:54 become transdermally absorbed, the more I felt like as a woman, we deserved way better. So we created our Goop Beauty line to finally have really clean, efficacious, like with clinical results behind it, beauty. And then recently, we were able to launch good clean goop, which is in Target and on Amazon. And I'm so proud of this because it's very much in the same vein as our prestige line, but the price point is much more accessible. And it's that same like beauty as wellness. So there's a botanical ingredient in every one of these things. There's a, there's a clinical ingredient. And they're just, it's so good. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, like obsessed with it. And I really think we over delivered on this product. And I'm excited for you to try.
Starting point is 01:00:47 This is the right audience. We had, um, Ken Cook on the show from the EWG. We're talking. He's amazing. He's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think people realize like how much they're bombarding themselves with all sorts of different things all the time. You know what? I use my body sculptor and I don't have a body oil to use with it. Okay. So this I'm going to use with the sculptor. It's a naked elixir body oil. So it gives you like a glow. Yep. And it's clean beauty. Very clean.
Starting point is 01:01:12 This is, and very beautiful. This is the move. Michael, you could use a little of this on your elbows. You know what I mean? What the hell's wrong with my elbows? It's like, it's just a little. Well, I like to use the oil for, like, if I have a mini skirt or I'm showing my arms. If you have a really dry area, I recommend the body smoother.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Maybe I'll get some of my bicep right now. It smells so good. The body smoother, I love. Ooh. So pretty. That's beautiful. I have to try. This is good for your elbows.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Okay. It's a rich cream. What is your favorite product out of everything? Look at the sheen on my bicep now. Is that? You're getting excited? No. She is.
Starting point is 01:01:50 You guys should see her face right now. Yeah, she is. She's blushing. I really love this, the daily juice cleanser. It's like a green juice for your face. You're going to love this. This is like, it foams, it's green, it has chlorophyll in it. It's so detoxifying and fabulous.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It doesn't strip the skin. It's a very, it's like, again, beauty as wellness. Do you, does it remove makeup? Yeah. Amazing. I mean, I think if you have like super heavy duty, don't wear snuffel off against eyelagos eyelashes and. I don't know how it will do with that.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But I, I don't. There's a lot going on right now. But you're so pretty. You never know when to the makeup. Wait, now I need that for my other elbow. Okay. Pass the good clean boot. So, you know what I'm interested in is the eye patches.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Oh, okay. Tell me about the. Because I love eye patches. So that's from our main line, our Goop Beauty line. Okay. And they are amazing. In fact, my husband, even when he wakes up tired, he's like, can you pass me the eye patches? They really work.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I use her. If she has them in the fridge, I'll use them. If a good eye patch, there's nothing better than that to me. Okay, I'm going to send you some. That's my favorite thing on the planet. They're incredible. And we have an eye cream, like a brightening eye cream that I put on after. That's amazing too.
Starting point is 01:03:05 And this line has a brightening. This is the wide awake eye serum, which is actually amazing too. Lauren said yesterday it looked like I was falling asleep and then I got stung by a baby. No, you know what I said he looked like? That's unloving line. You know when the peanuts are dancing and they're closing their eyes? Like Charlie Brown and the peanuts? You think that's what he looked like?
Starting point is 01:03:25 Yeah, he just like was he needed like some like eye cream. So this is good for him. It's going to wake him up. Here, I'm going to put some on you. Taylor, check that off my list. I'm going to tell you. My eyes taken care of. You do look more awake.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah. No, I feel. I feel good. very good. You wouldn't know this looking at me. I'm a quarter Japanese. And my grandmother's full. She just passed, actually. But they're going to pull this clip on TikTok and put it together. Why? What I said is
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah, it's a little, Lauren, it's a little bit racist from you because I'm feeling a little attacked. I'm not just kidding. But no, and I, um, you guys are hilarious. I have, you know, I did get a little bit of the Asian eye where my eye, I have deep hoods. That's a blessing. Yeah, no, I know. My grandma was a knife. I'm going to live forever.
Starting point is 01:04:06 So tell us what the benefits of the wide awake serum, it just opens your eyes. Yeah. I mean, here. I feel good. Is there a little caffeine in there? I'm a big beauty junkie. Hydrate, smooth, brighten. Okay. Oh, this is beautiful. This all in one gel combines peptides,
Starting point is 01:04:23 stabilized vitamin C, caffeine, and adaptogens to fight the visible signs of aging. It helps smooth lines and wrinkles, brighten the appearance of dark circles and reduce puffiness. How do I look now, learn? No more Charlie Brown look. Before you go, can you just quickly tell you? us how you develop all these products? Like, what's the process? Do you actually go on and say,
Starting point is 01:04:43 we need an eye patch? This is what I want. This is how I want it. Or do they present it to you and you say, I have my edits? So it's a collaborative effort. You know, there are beauty marketers that's their job to assess trends in the market, what people are wanting. You know, is it time to make a sheet mask for your face? Is it not? So you can actually get a lot of data around what people are suggesting. I think a lot of it is also then instinctual. It's like, well, this is what I really need right now and how can we make the best version that hasn't been made before. We work on, we kind of work on one main thing at a time. So, of course, we'll have a few things in development, but we don't have like a ton of product in development.
Starting point is 01:05:24 We really focus on our hero products. And we're sort of known for exfoliation and that kind of like getting rid of, you know, dry, dull skin. So we have amazing exfoliating products. I found your products to be, to me, the way it's rolled out very intentional, too. Yes. You know sometimes how, like, a celebrity will launch a brand and you can tell they just went to a company and white labeled 600 things. And it's like a one, two, three, four, five step.
Starting point is 01:05:51 With yours, it feels like what you just said, you rolled it out to what you wanted, like what you needed. Like when the iPad came, it felt like you were like, I really wanted a nice iPad. And then, like, you guys created one together. That's right. And also, again, like the non-toxic part is so important. And for a while, people thought, oh, if it's clean and non-toxic, it can't, it doesn't, maybe it doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:06:13 It's actually not true. The clinical results behind our products are incredible. And you can have the best of both worlds. Again, like it really drives me crazy. Like, for example, with the eye patches or the eye masks, they're called, there are some on the market, but they're not clean, you know, so I think ours work the best. Well, also, it's when you think about it, it's right by your eye. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:37 It's kind of like it's going into your skin and it's by your eye. Yeah, for sure. Just like these eyelashes that are definitely toxic. You need to make some eyelashes. Wait, quickly. Have you, you mentioned peptides? Have you experimented with peptides at all? Peptide therapy?
Starting point is 01:06:52 Like injections? Yeah, I have. What do you think? So I did a course of them when I had really, really high inflammatory markers after COVID. And I thought they were great. I did a short course and it was good. this is a while ago now. I've done them for like the cognition and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:07:08 And again, actually also after we had COVID in the past, and I feel like it just like helps kick the body into gear. Yeah, there's like been a lot of, I think that's also kind of one of the next things that's going to become more mainstream. Oh, for sure. Yeah. For sure. Can we do a giveaway?
Starting point is 01:07:21 Yes. Okay. Can we do your favorites? Like a basket of your favorites? What should we do? Can I just give the whole good clean goop line to somebody? That would be amazing. Okay, all you guys have to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest post at Lauren Bostic and follow at Good Clean Goop or at Google. There's two. There's two. Right. I am very obsessed with what you're doing. I think it's so inspirational. I really look up to it. Thank you so much for taking the time. My pleasure. You're lovely. So down to earth. Where can everyone follow you? I'm sure they already do. At Gwyneth Paltrow on Instagram. Thank you for fixing my eyes, Gwyneth. You're so welcome. I feel like a whole new man. He's going to go brag to everyone now.
Starting point is 01:08:02 I'm going to go around town to everyone, talk to my guy. Your eyes do look more open. Redith Paltrow, just fixed my eyes. Thank you. Dusty guys, I'm sorry for you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Don't forget to go shop all of good clean goop.
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